Confused about the BODY TYPES? (Kibbe)
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Aly, is the body type something that is inherited from the mother/father? :)
hi, thanks for the great video :) im often confused about the difference between natural/soft natural and flamboyant gamine...and the essence...
@I'M NOT sAD I'M JUsT TIRED Only David can say for sure - I only can guess she might be a Soft Gamine if she is small in size
Aly, I love your videos and music. I have a question about the Kibbe categorization - it's very Caucasian. It seems to miss the tall and strong but with feminine features. I would like to see more of the Amazonian models. Personally when I took the test, I was split evenly and it didn't make sense. (I have a romantic look but I am taller and stronger.) What about female bodybuilders? What about the crossover with Endomorph Ectomorph and Mesomorph?
Are you doing Personal consultations? 🙏
Maybe Aly should just go around every single person in the world and tell them their body type individually? That's the only way I think I'll be able to figure it out😂xx
So funny! 😂
I'm glad I've figured mine out, and the "hands test" just confirmed it. 🤚🏻 I've got large hands with wide bones and my fingers and palms are a bit fleshy... :/
So, I'm soft natural! ✌🏻
Categorizing my subscribers would be a cool video to do. We send photos and she picks a few 😊
Adela Setara glad it was easy for you! Me...petite non-sharp face, larger hands, large, wide feet and narrow shoulders, long limbs, 5'8.5, looks awful in heavily textured flamboyant natural clothing, and ridiculous in angular, bold, ornate jewelry of D, SD, FG.
Andrea Velez I would totally do that! I am so confused now😅
I love this idea!!
Aly, it would be nice to have a video on how different body types gain weight.
There is already a video on TH-cam about that 😊
The more videos about Kibbe I see, the less I understand. 😂
Because it’s outdated! Dwyn Larson is updated system and works amazingly
@@SofiyaLevina whaaat? I didn't hear of that. I'll check it, thank you so much!!
@@SofiyaLevina really?? Any site or place to read about it?
Nidhi Kesharwani I wrote a blog post & did a small video about it... you can also google about it. I’m a stylist and outdated systems are no good
@@maria4118 It is not complete outdated and kibbe himself revised the system but the general idea of his system is still right. The problem as a normal person is to learn and understand how to analyse a body and what is meant with blunt/sharp/round/narrow shoulders for example.
Something that helped for me, was realizing it wasn't that important to find my kibbe body type, it was to understand the system, my lines, my body.
At a certain moment I was wondering between soft natural and soft dramatic, when I realized it didn't matter, what I needed to do was understand my own posture, and understand what clothes suited me, and why.
Also, for me, it helped to stop looking at pinterest boards, because it tends to focus on a certain style, and it doesn't explain why this dress would look good on a type, just 'this dress looks good on ...", and because of that, it's easy to forget it's not about that dress, it's about understanding why that dress suits you (and why you can use the same information of that dress on sweaters, shirts, skirts, etc.).
Also, it doesn't help it's usually a certain style. I really struggled to figure out if I might be a soft dramatic, because I just really didn't like the clothing style suggested.
Best comments you deserve so much more thumbs up.
@@kidaria1333 Thank you, for the kind response :)
Hi Little Black Fox: how you began to understand the system? How exactly you found out your lines/shape? Its so difficult....
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Hi! I agree it's difficult, I had a lot of trouble as well. I think it helps a lot more to do it in steps, than trying to figuring it out in one go.
Understanding yin and yang in both your style and your body really helps before diving into the Kibbe System, I'd recommend Elyssa here on TH-cam for learning about yin and yang in this system.
After that it's mostly figuring out what you're absolutely not, and if you're more yin in general, like romantic or gamine, or more yang in general, and lean more towards dramatic and natural (or more in between like classic). After that it is more fine tuning, like understanding your bones structure, your visual height, and overall how you come across.
(I think it also helps a lot to focus more on what works for you and what not in the actual type of clothing you wear, and not focusing too much on what type you are).
For me, Thoughts With Rita helped me the most (really recommend her!), she makes whole videos dedicated to every type, and differentiates type with style and essence. She goes a lot more into what makes each type that type, and what are the main aspects to focus on.
She also made a few videos analyzing celebrities, and it helped me a lot how she uses street photo's over event photo's what creates a more realistic look, and also points out what she think they are not, and why, and also focuses a little on their personal style, to understand what is style and what is their body type.
(she also made me realize I'm actually flamboyant natural, which is something I never saw because I just hate the style recommendations for this type (very boxy, I hate the usual colour recommendations, and it's usually kinda formal and kinda fancy), and the celebrities used as examples are usually a lot less curvy/thick than me, but understanding why things work for this type, made me figure out it is exactly how I've been styling my own clothes for years as a tomboy).
Merriam Style also has a couple of videos where she uses photo's from her subscribers as examples, I think it can really helps to look at different people with all more different styles and different looks to figure better out what makes each body style that style, instead of only using celebrities as examples.
Hopefully this helps a little, at least to know where to start, you can always ask me more if you want to :)
@@ZwarteKonijn thanks a Lot for your answer and offer, iam in the way.....my Kibbe Journey began Last September... because iam not a native english speaker, its more difficult, but possible. Have a good time!
When Aly is in the desk you know she means business
Essence is so important. It’s the undervalued aspect of Kibbe that no one considers. I find most accurate results come from NOT over analyzing.
"people categorize themselves to classic just because they thought they're just average"
UHH i feel attack 😅
Same
Me too 😬 seriously thought I was a soft classic but looks like Ill have to take another look lol
I have the same feeling. Though I suspect I might be a gamine (though I'm 170 cm)
@@polinaracheeva9163 you can't be gamine if you're tall. Gamine is always petite.
@@archaicamusement3871 that is not necessarily true.....ive seen aly herself type a couple people as gamine that were tall. audrey hepburn is classified as flamboyant gamine and yet she is 5'7". some tall people can look petite. petite can be an overall look and not just necessarily tied to height. soooo yeah. thought i dont see many women whom are 5'8"/170 cm being classified as gamine. making over all flat out statements are never correct or true
I thought i was close to soft classic but now i have no idea again XD by the time Aly uploads next video, I'll probably believe I'm dramatic
there's a subreddit about kibbe and the redditors can help type you if you post full body photos. It really helped me
@@teenyteeniee do you know what its called?
@@brittanynicoleprice r/kibbe
tina they rarely help
I thought I was a romantic, but now I am not so sure
I wish I met Aly in person so she could analyze my body type 😂 it’s so hard to “self diagnose” cause we are used to our features so nothing seems too sharp or too soft
I would pay for her to tell me what mine is…has she set this up yet?
Can you talk about big /long noses?
We never see them in the media and I think that’s why many of us big nose beauty’s think that our noses are ugly
No mention of it on any Kibbe typing website so I have no idea what I am
Seeing a notification from Aly means leaving everything else I am doing at the moment.
I'm confused as an Asian. Because most of informations and inspirations are based on europeans. But our bones and size are obviously different. Is there any chance you will do an asian kibbe? It's like, I've been searching it myself but i kind of trust you more lmao. Anyway, good information as always. Love from SEA 💓
Ps. Sorry for my poor english.
Compare yourself to yourself not others and then you can work out what you are. An example on me is that even if my boobs are a DD they always look small in proportion to the rest of me.
Check out style syntax on TH-cam. She co founded strictly kibbe and she mentioned this. Some ethnic groups with a certain look will have a higher percentage of whatever. Like if most people in your country are 6ft...most people won't be romantic. They will be natural, flamboyant naturals or dramatic/soft dramatic. Some ethnicities will have a higher percentage of certain kibbe types.
I agree with the 2 answers. It's always helpful to see your ethnicity and compare yourself to it, but at the end of the day it's all about the geometry of the bones and how the parts of the body relate to each other. You are asian but your bones will still be short, long, rounded, blunt, sharp etc
For example Lucy Liu is typed by many as a dramatic (even if she's short). I also see many black celebrities being typed romantics, soft dramatics, soft classics, flamboyant gamines etc. It's all about the proportions
@@myssangela4872 I agree! Thank you for expressing the value of judging by proportions and not purely by height. Many women believe that if you don't fit into a category by height then you have to eliminate that category, but then they become confused because the other categories are unsuitable. They've eliminated their correct category based on one faulty assumption.
@@pryvacy1392 Thanks for the answer! But as I said, I already searched it myself. And I'm not lying that our bones are quite different. facial features, for example. We basically don't have as strong bones like caucasians. Like cheekbones, high nose bridge, big deep structured eyes. Yes, some do but some don't. Even lots of caucasians are confused themselves. I just want to tell you that this can be difficult for someone whether asians or not. It's the real reason why we're all confusing here. Sorry for taking it serious love. i really appreciate the answer!
I thought I was TR, because of many "stereotypes" about romantic body. But actually I realised that I am just a skinny romantic.
@kshiftkometh Marilyn also had extensive plastic surgery
Extensive plastic surgery? Only she things she had done was a brow lift, a nose job, and evened out her hairline a bit...how in the world is that extensive?
@@skepticat1581 I think her jawline too, but she still looked romantic
Student on a Budget she didn’t have anything done on her jawline. She did get a chin implant which dissolved over time and she never got redone.
@@skepticat1581 implants don't actually get dissolved, they just migrate to other areas in the face, but whatever she got done didn't ruin her face.
I'd like to see the pics comparing yourself to Marilyn!
Can you make a video on differences between theatrical romantic and soft gamine?
XD yeah I'm confused too about it
caprisagi snowhite romantics are more “womanly” with soft fleshy width (TR will have some delicate sharpness usually in face and/or shoulders) while gamines are more “girlish” with more angularity and straight lines in the body.
SG is more angular especially at the jaw and shoulders, and TR is trimmer and is not angular, more delicate bones - as I understand it!
do u have a big ass head - GAMINE type
In all of your videos about the body types, you explain it so well, and I'm always like, "oh yeah, I understand, it's so simple!" And then I look in the mirror and have no idea what I'm looking at haha
Didn't see the video yet but your decoration is gorgeous!!!!! Love the contrast of color beetwen the walls against the sofa(couch? I don't know the difference) and plants!
You are THE ONLY person who talks about this who makes sense. I love your work!
Aly, you could make bank telling people what body type they are from photos! If you do, Im in!
Me too!!
I took a picture with my mother last year with the same expresion, lighting and angle. I was shocked by how prominent my facial features were and how obviusly yang i am, and how delicate she look next to me. She is SG I am SN.
That sounds like me and my cousins. They both have extremely yin features, and I look like them, but like a brother by comparison because my features are so yang.
Now I need a body type of hands and feet 😆
I have baby hands and I would like those classified lol
What if i have lil hands and huge feet, am i two people?
@@windflowerrainstorm6497 ha same! Delicate, soft, cut feet, big-ish hands with noticable bones and veins that don't realy fit the rest at all.
I'd love to see a video where you analyze good and bad examples of plastic surgery in relation to kibbe types. I remember one video of yours called "would lip fillers suit me" and I found it very interesting.
Good plastic surgery is supposed to make your features more "harmonious". But, Edgar Allen poe said, “There is no exquisite beauty… without some strangeness in the proportion.”
Will you continue the series comparing one type with all the others? It's really helpful:)
I will!!
@@AlyArt Hi Aly, what do you think about when someone has a classic bonestructure but a bigger bust size…? So the bones don’t fit in natural blunt bones and not in soft dramatic, and definetly not romantic. Can a classic or soft classic naturally have a bigger bust size (especially if slightly overweight), not extremly big but like D cup?
This was so helpful! xx
It's great to see you here! 🤗
Hi Audrey, it's great to see you here
Love your content Aly
Great that Audrey is here too 😀
Hey Audrey!
I was just researching what body type I actually am, what perfect timing! Thank you!
Taking a look on pictures/photos of myself, that was my solution. I could recognize much more easily my Kibbe Type than as if I looked into the mirror. Collecting several photos, also older ones, gave me the best impression of what I really am (Flamboyant Gamine, as I know now).
Im really into these type of videos about confusion in kibbe type,open my mind a lot! Im still just a beginner though,but keep up the good work!😊😊
The red sweater had a good picture of Shakira and Beyonce where you really see what a straight waist is: no one would say Shakira had a straight figure but her waistline appears much smoother than Beyonces
I think one of the confusions is that Kibbe types are viewed as categories with firm distinctions, rather than yin/yang influence on a continuum. It might be nice to consider what the body types can “get away with”-e.g., photos of Naturals getting away with dressing Gamine, but not with dressing Romantic (or whatever)...
I agree. It makes me think of colour analysis and how deep autumns might be able to get away with some deep winter colours, for eg.
I feel I am a soft classic. Because wearing soft classic clothing really compliments me.
Plus my body is of a medium frame. My shoulders are slightly wider than my hips. And I have an average waist.
My height is moderate. And I have soft rounded features. As in I feel my bones are blunt and my muscles aren't defined too much.
This Kibbe system is so confusing to me. Specially with body dysmorphia.
Can you please make a video about Kibbe essence ?
Something that helps is trying diffrent styles of clothes, makeup and hairstyles to see what type are you, for example if you look better withouth bangs you are more likely to be classic, or if you look better with voluminous and messy hair you are more likely to be some kind of natural, or if you look better with voluminous but orderly hair, then you are more likely to be soft dramatic. The same goes for makeup: if you look better with no make up make up, than say, strong make up you are probably classic, or if you look better with shimmery makeup you are more likely to be theatrical romantic. The same goes for clothes.
Ye it sucks. Like i see myself as alot wider then i think i actually am so it can be tough
Hii Aly 💕 I would love to hear you talking more about the essences of each body type
It would so amazing if you would offer personal consultations or sone way to help categorize someone and give individual insight, recommendations etc. somehow to help type people. I would pay for this in a heart beat. Please consider doing this, I’m struggling to figure out what I am and as soon as I think I got it, I learn more or realize I’m not certain anymore. I love how you are teaching and helping people realize we are all different and beautiful. I have daughters and hope I can pass some of this on to help them. ❤❤❤❤thank you
I almost always thought i was dramatic but then i gained weight and i look kinda flamboyant natural. But also i still look lanky and i’m tall (1,80m) so i ,...think I’m dramatic. I think i need an outsider opinion 😂
If you're natural, you have wide bones. So...
Vertical + wide + muscular + blunt: Natural.
Vertical + straight + angular + sharp: Dramatic.
I think a dramatic can look just as tall with long bones as a flamboyant natural, but they don't seem to have much width when looking at the whole body. The first thing you'd notice about them is probably how long and narrow their bones are. Think about clothes, jewellery, shoes maybe. If you feel like you look just right with things that hold their shape and create a long narrow line, then you're most likely dramatic. If you feel like you look a little bit trapped in these kind of clothes, even if they're the right size, and need some more space for movement of the fabric, then it's more likely you're flamboyant natural.
There's pictures of gigi hadid and taylor swift next to each other, search for them please and make a picture of yourself and paste it against them if you look like taylor more you're dramatic if hadid your flamboyant natural
Adela Setara caprisagi snowhite Orangeorblue Thank you for your tips (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ I’m a dramatic.
Yeah looking at full body pictures is actually really helpful! I was stuck between FN with more hips or SD because I'm tall (1.80m as well) and I have wider shoulders. But when I looked at my whole body, the first thing I noticed was that my bones looked more narrow/long/angular and I looked softer rather than lean or muscular.
That's great. Great explanations. I was wondering if the aging process on a body/face is a bit of a "fake out" like losing or gaining weight? When I was younger, I had more collagen. My face was still an oval, but cheeks and lips were plumper. Now that I'm older and probably 10-15 lighter, I see more of a "gaunt, chiseled dramatic". Even though a lot of people think I'm an FN. Just curious your take on this.
Difference between dramatic and FN is muscle! A dramatic person will have these bones that can be prominent. Both are tall but FN will be wider (especially at the shoulders!) FN will look muscular. A dramatic will more likely have a straight figure rather than that inverted V. It’s easy to see between those 2. They can carry some similar clothes and jewelry
@@lh1053 a FN will also have a little more width or have a "boxy" shape in comparison to a dramatic, that's what I've noticed.
I think age definitely can affect the yin and yang balance. I find that that most people have more yin in their face when they were younger, eg. fuller cheeks, fuller lips, bigger eyes, smaller nose. As they get older, their cheeks become more taunt, lips thinner, eyes smaller due to sagging skin, and nose enlarging
I’m so confused!!! It’s a mystery that needs to be solved. Thanks for the tips!
I finally figured out my type after almost a year. I went from soft dramatic to romantic to TR to romantic then finally to soft natural. I realized I wasn't very rounded esp in the face. I was playing with the reface app and noticed I strongly resembled Britney spears and fergi who are both soft naturals (from what I've researched).
3:40 asparagus😕⁉️
Rectangle body shape
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I couldn’t figure out what she was saying there! Lol thanks!
I think femininity is not about gestures only... it's about your essence, too. Just like these body types you teach about, but the non-physical stuff. I'm a soft dramatic, and I have my fair share of masculinity in me, in my gestures and essence. I don't think it makes me masculine... as long as my femininity matches my masculinity, my masculinity only highlights my femininity.
I think you're veery feminine, Aly. Especially your voice. I love your soft voice.
Wow, yeah my hands are square like yours! I was typed from a professional image consultant from Russia and she told me I was a gamine-natural from Dwyn Larson’s type system. She told me that kibbe’s system has some flaws that one person isn’t just one type, but a hybrid of types. In kibbe’s system I am a soft gamine (not professionally verified). These systems in general are so interesting.
Personal consultations please :puppy eyes:
Congratulations for the 600k you deserve 600 millions ❤❤
Only thing I'm sure is that I'm not a romantic. Thank you boy hands.
I think.... I'm classic or soft classic. But not sure. I have small hand though ... But everything is mostly proportionate
thank you! i really enjoy learning about these body types. i like very feminine and cute fashion however classic suits, long straight cut jackets and something with very strict shape fits me the best. i never could understand why until i learned about my body type, i indeed am dramatic! it helps me now to choose the right outfit or to adjust it to fit me better.
Ally, could you pls teach us how to be more other styles? For example, how dramatics can look less defiant and softer, how romantics can look more assertive, etc.
Aly, this hair color is YOUR COLOR. it's the most perfectly fitting for you!
Hi Aly, just a suggestion. Typing is really hard when you could have many characteristics. Also if you lift weights too it seems you can almost change your body type. Can you maybe do a series on straightforward style types, as in "if you have short legs, and want to make them look longer do ___" (you could do shorter, thinner, wider, etc.) maybe for each body part itself? Then we can assemble a wardrobe accordingly. You could make this part of your patreon account
You're right, it's a lot about our vibe. I've realized that men who are into super feminine women, like theatrical romantic type, find me 'masculine'. And yes, I'm very tomboyish, that's how I confirm I'm a soft gamine.
I think I'm theatrical romantic, but I've always been called masculine... how confusing is this 🤦🏼♀️
You’re the only one I trust about kibbe body types, other than kibbe himself of course. You have a great eye for this. One of the major youtubers in this area seems to not be able to look at herself very objectively and I believe she has typed herself incorrectly. Her clothes and particularly her hair have often not been the most flattering. If she saw it on someone else, she’d know it was a bit “off” I think. Anyway, you always make a lot of sense and I trust your observations.
I'm definitely some kind of natural, but it's hard to say which one 😅
Do you look better with or without waist emphasis? That might help decide between soft (with) and flamboyant 😊
@@Keapix thank youu
Or you can simply be natural, in the middle
Yoga bilingüe Kibbe scrapped Natural for some reason.
I have found that taking the test isn't the be-all-end-all of Kibbe body types. After all, David Kibbe doesn't even assess with the quiz anymore. I find that what matters more is gaining an understanding of each of the body types and begin typing people you know or celebrities you see in the media and then check the result and see if you were right or at least close. The better you get at understanding yin/yang lines, width, vertical lines, and curve in Kibbe terms, the greater ability you'll have to categorize yourself. So, in order to find out what I was, I began with the quiz just like everybody else. There was an issue with this though; I didn't understand vertical line and how past a certain height one will automatically have a very long vertical line regardless of the size of their head (above 5'7"). Not understanding this lead me to mistyping myself according to the quiz as a dramatic classic. I knew that wasn't right because (although Kibbe doesn't use faces as a defining factor) my face was most definitely not classic at all. So much so that I saw it in my body too. My shoulders are broad and prominent, and my hips are wide and square. I have a very similar body to Gigi Hadid, but my results had a lot more C initially because I didn't actually understand what "moderate" vs "broad and blunt" meant. Moral of the story, understand the yin/yang system first and foremost before even trying to take the quiz. Understand what counts as A answers, B answers, C answers, D answers, and E answers, look at verified celebrities of all weights, ethnicities, color seasons, and ages. See the possible variety of each type and see which you share the most common threads with yourself and the types. Retake the quiz after you've really gained an understanding. Being 5'8" I now understand there are also ways to narrow down your possible options. So, for anyone needing help with that, if you are over 5'7" you are automatically either a Dramatic, Soft Dramatic, or a Flamboyant Natural as according to David Kibbe himself. That was the answer for me, that clarified everything and now I understand why I am a flamboyant natural. Hope this helps.
Firstly, I LOVE your videos. I've recently discovered the Kibbe system and they help me so much when figuring out how to dress for my body type!
While watching this video, I realised that there are two things that I have become repeatedly confused and frustrated with about finding clothes to flatter my body type. Principally, with figuring out my colour palette and how to 'break the soft gamine rules' properly in order to achieve more feminine/tailored silhouettes.
In terms of Kibbe type, I'm Soft Gamine. I'm 5'1.5, have a naturally defined waist but still am very boyish in figure, with short hands, arms and legs, but with angularity in my jaw/cheekbones when thin. I have a rough idea of what fabrics, cuts and patterns suit me however whenever I'm browsing in a shop, I find that if a particular item of clothing comes in various colours, I never know which to choose!
I've done so many quizzes and looked at celebrities who apparently share my colouring and I'm still not entirely sure. I've narrowed it down to either a Deep Winter or Deep Autumn. (For the latter, I heard the Jennifer Lopez was a DA, who is somewhat like me - similar hair colour, but completely different skin tone. For the former, I read that Catherine Zeta-Jones was also a DW - I had a little trouble with this because while her skin is more similar to mine than JL's, her hair is much darker (mine is dark brown, hers is jet black).
Regarding more tailored silhouettes, it doesn't help that the celebrities I admire are generally Dramatics and are usually 5'6 or above. (Not that I admire them only because of their height, that would be hilariously peculiar, but when I've done the 'putting myself on the same level as them via photos on the computer' thing and have checked their height, this is the height that I get on average). Two examples of taller celebrities with styles I absolutely love are Michelle Dockery (who I believe is a Kibbe Dramatic?) and Raquel Cassidy (I think she may be Dramatic too? honestly, I'm not too sure).
Michelle, in the world premiere for the movie of Downton Abbey, wore this gorgeous floor-length bodycon gold one-shoulder gown. For me, metallic coloured clothes have always been a source of stress. I'm drawn to sheer fabrics and strong golds. (Beauty and the Beast is my favourite film ever and I dreamt about wearing Belle's gold ball gown for so long! I was gutted when I realised that my body type would never suit a dress like that). That being said, whenever I try it on, the gold never seems to work with my skin tone, either washing me out or being too bold for me. I have a silver off-the-shoulder top with a similar fabric to what Michelle's dress is made of, but a lot softer and not monochrome (it has streaks of different shades of silver within it). I've tried the 'vein test' to try and figure out my colour palette several times, however I always fail to conclude the temperature of my skin because I can't quite work out the colour of my veins, but I can also wear both gold and silver jewellery without either type seeming to wash me out or make me look sallow.
Raquel, for the 'BAFTA Celebrates Downton Abbey' event, wore this stunning floor-length dress with a slit in one of the legs and long, cape-like arms. I'd love to wear something like this, however being an SG, whenever I try to wear something long and flowing or too clingy, it doesn't work for me. I always hesitate with tailored things because I can never find the things that look right! Also, I've never been entirely sure about key-hole fronts/backs as they are a very feminine feature that can either look out of place or suit me depending on the key-hole in relation to the cut of the garment, its size etc.
I tried reading up on how to 'tailor things to my body type', but nothing I've found has worked. A TH-camr who specialises in petite fashion is Dearly Bethany. She, like me, is a similar height and also ages younger than she actually is. (I'm 19 and have been told that without make-up or a particularly 'flattering', ie waist-defining, stereotypically feminine silhouette, that I look 15-16). She says in one of her videos, that to look older, you should wear monochrome and wear long lines (which, admittedly I have tried with wearing higher waisted items of clothing and it does give me the illusion of an extra half an inch - I don't look any older because of it but am thankful for seeming a little taller). I was confused by that piece of advice when applying to myself because I thought: "I'm a Soft Gamine! I can't wear long lines or monochrome, I'll look horrible!"
Apologies for a LOT of blabbing and long, winding paragraphs, but I think this just about sums up my problem. :)
Hi! So I’m not sure if you’ve heard of her but another really good TH-camr who is very into this stuff is Merriam Style. She has a bunch of videos about Kibbe types-not just what to wear but how to break the rules as well, in a way that works, and I can’t help thinking she might be what you’re looking for. I also know and like Dearly Bethany, but for my money, Kibbe is more accurate and universal so I tend to favour its advice over hers. Merriam recently split from Kibbe to form her own concept of the types called Body Geometry, but it is still very much about dressing using bone structure. Regardless, her old Kibbe videos are very in-depth and there’s lots of them in case Body Geometry doesn’t make sense. Merriam also has her own take on undertones, from the traditional “seasons” to her own color system, known as Artistic License. Whichever you prefer, she definitely knows her stuff and her videos actually made the undertone thing finally make sense for me. Her videos may be able to help you figure out which silhouettes you can rock, how to break the rules to wear those natural and dramatic lines you love, and what colors will suit your undertone best. I think Aly and Merriam are also friends btw, as they’ve mentioned each other. They’re also both soft gamines lol which makes me wonder if SG is just into Kibbe as a rule. Anyway, I would definitely check her out. Hope this helps! ^^
@@shirin9452 No, I hadn't heard of Merriam Style before you mentioned her - I will definitely know of her now though! Thank you so much for this. It's super helpful! :)
Wow I always wondered why you’d always mention celebrities not being the best to learn with thanks for going and showing your insight
About Kate Winslet’s cheeks - I think some of it might be just natural volume loss in the face which comes with aging. So many celebs get filler to counteract this but it is normal for cheeks to hollow with age.
Could you do a video about different types for tall women? It seems women above 5’8” can only be of three types, but there is no limits on people of other heights?
you can be a tall romantic or gamine if your vertical line looks short, it is not about the absolute height, but about the perceived height. For example my best friend and I are both 5.5 but she just looks taller to people, and for me people of the same height or even shorter than me think I am shorter than I am.
There are shorter people that look tall... Again, it's not about the absolute height
You can only be D, SD, or FN if you’re 5’8” or above because length/vertical becomes automatically dominant at that height. At least that’s how I understand it.
I would be really interested in more comparison videos to train my eye. Especially for types that seem similar like dramatic/flamboyant natural or soft classic/soft natural etc.
Your gamine- essence is truly recognizable and fits you so well hahahah
When I first discovered your channel and your videos about Body types I was confused as well. I watched and re-watched over and over the videos and did the test, took pictures, did thr test again. I was not really aware of my body but in the end I nailed it. I am a flamboyant natural and those hands of Claudia Schiffer look just like mine, lol😁. And that only reniforces my thoughts: girls, don't try to identificate after just one video. I watched all Aly's videos a few times until I got it right. It's a process of self-discovery❤
I had initially watched so many videos containing erroneous information, I doubt I will EVER understand Kibbe. I will keep watching your videos, in hopes that I’ll have some kind of epiphany. Right now I am so confused and frustrated.
When you do realize it, you'll love it! It took me 1,5 years to truly, really get it. It feels so simple after you get it all in and train the eye!
privatelady, thank you for the encouragement. This is really tough for me. I want to be the best version of me and this has me FLABBERGASTED!
I still can't figure it out myself.
Clotheswise: No boxy straight lines for me...
Best dress: 40's style sillouette looks best on me, long dress that reaches my ankles and emphasis on my waist.
Looking at my photo I just notice that I look tall. In general I am often told that I look muscular- my upper arms and calves have bigger muscles (even when I don't workout). I have broad shoulders and from the front I have wide hips and upper torso in almost equal proportion and my waist is smaller then my hips, a slight hourglass but not like Marylin. I gain weight on my hips and thighs, my calves, my upper arms look fleshy and muscular and my face .
But even when overweight (70kg with 164cm height- still on the shorter side but my vertical line is long as in I look taller than I am) I have curves but I still remain muscular. I have 80C cup size (no where as big as these woman with soft dramatic or romantic are allways shown), Never been underweight. I consider my bones blunt. My face is similar to Diane Krugers. I have good cheekbones, my jaw is blunt. My nose is not sharp but also not round, also it used to be a bit broad (but I had a nosejob now it looks less broad, and I had a bump now it is straight). My lips are thinn and cupidsbow is sharp (bottom lip has more volume then the top lip)
My hands have long thin fingers but they are a bit broad. My feet are also a bit broad.
If I loose weight I notice my legs get thinner and my waist gets more defined, also my cheekbones become more prominent.
My hair is darkbrown and straight, I have blue eyes... (don't know if that is important)
But even if I know all these details I can't figure myself out.
I was told I am Soft Natural but I don't know, that were just strangers from reddit.
Only thing I know is I am not a gamine.
The more I get into this the more confused I am about myself. Also the more I get into it trying to figure it out
Really enjoyed the video 💗. Could you please talk about the confusion surrounding Rihannas body type. People type her as theatrical romantic, soft dramatic and natural. She looks good in lots of different types of clothes. I know you types her as a natural before but because of how good she looks in soft dramatic clothes particularly, I was wondering if you could do a video of just dedicate a section of a video on rihannas body before and and the weight gain. Love you Aly xxx
Rihanna is definitely theatrical romantic
@@di3486 she's too tall though. She's 5'8 isn't she? And she has large hands and feet (UK size 7). Theatrical romantics are small and have delicate bone structure
@@zulaykhay5320 that's a stereotype. Also, two pieces of the overall picture. If you've ever seen a full body pictures of rihanna, she looks smaller than her height. Her body proportions are shorter in relation to her over all height. Her bone structure is delicate. If anything her height and (I guess?) her feet are the sharp/dramatic components that make her a _theatrical_ romantic rather than a hardline romantic.
Also look at the lines of other body types on her. They look okay (because she's pretty regardless and can rock an outfit) but TR/R styles are the only ones that look just right on her frame. You put her in dramatic or natural lines then she just look overwhelmed in cloth (D) or complete unconstructed and kinda messy (N)
I think she's either TR or FG
Zulaykha Y I am 5’ 2” and I am Soft Natural. Height doesn’t really matter.
Thank you for this! I kept getting told I was a dramatic classic because of my face but I always thought I was natural/flamboyant natural.
so I am borderline convinced that I am a soft gamine. I used to think I was a romantic because for my five foot frame I have a very large set of hips and am softer looking. I am not overweight but I look fleshy. But I don't look great in hyper feminine clothes that scream womanhood. I feel like a girlish vibe flatters me more, perhaps because I am still young, or simply because it fits my lifestyle more? I wish there was a comprehensive guide to navigate through the gamines.
For romantics it depends on what kind of feminine clothes they wear. If the clothes have a lot of round shapes and are made for hourglass women there's a big difference whether the rounded shapes are small or large. And the fabric as well. If a romantic wears soft dramatic lines for example (big rounded shapes), it won't look right even if the clothes are very feminine. A romantic needs softer fabrics, shorter lines, small rounded shapes. I'd suggest to try these kind of clothes on and see if it still doesn't look right.
For gamines, it's important that the clothes are fitted and don't just hang on them. Best if there are some small details and if the lines hold their shape somewhat. Oh and contrasted details are good. Also high necklines. For soft gamines it's good to have waist emphasis and some softer fabrics as an addition to that. So try to see if that looks better on you than the romantic lines.
I think that if you just look at the characteristics of each clothing recommendation themselves, it actually doesn't matter to an extreme degree what kind of style you wanna wear, just make sure how fitted it is, the length, the fabrics, etc is right and you can create all kinds of styles with that.
you've perfectly described my case!!!
also my broad shoulders gave me a hint that I might be gamine
For a long time I thought I was one, but I think I'm a FG 😂 because the SG clothes tends to look soooo wrong 😯
@@orangeorblue132 OH! So thorough! Thank you :) It seems to be that the contrast between a soft gamine and romantic is blurred. I noticed that high necklines look more clean cut and pleasing to the eye, and polkadots seem to go well with me too. Big flower prints also look fine. Oh and colour, I need colour. I cannot wear beige or anything else that's earthly and trendy. It makes me look dull. Your tips are helpful! I will try to navigate a bit more!
@@curlyglasses2357 no problem :)
I definitely agree that there is some overlap in lines recommendations for soft gamines and romantics. I think though that the main difference is that soft gamines, being in the gamine category, still need more constructed lines supporting that softness. Romantics don't need that and can wear stuff that's less geometric and just more soft in silhouette, for example with small ruffles and gathers making the edges less defined in shape.
What you described definitely points towards being in the gamine category!
When I look at Katy Perry I don’t see FG (as she was saying a lot of people type her because of her style) I actually see Soft Dramatic. Idk, I’m torn because I can see soft natural too but then again she also looks pretty long and narrow.
We definitely need more of these! I confuse myself as TR (tested as) and SC because my face is angular, but my shoulders and upper torso are wide. ugh.
That is a very interesting video, Aly. When I take the Kibbe test - which I've done several times - I always get different results. The first thing that confuses me is indeed how to deal with overweight. Since I've been overweight my entire life I don't know how fleshy my arms would be if I were slim. I can't even compare myself to celebrities because it's hard to see similarities in someone who has a completely different figure. Height is also an issue. The question ist: "How are you perceived?" But in the answers it says "you are tall" or "you are short". These are two very different things. I'm 1,80m. Does that mean that I can narrow down the types to dramatic and flamboyant natural?
Love your videos. They are so informative, well structured and precise.
My waist is 28 and hips are 36 which makes me a rectangular shape person but I generally looks better if I dress more like hourglass because I'm TR, and I know this because of you Aly, you made me so much confident about myself, thank you so much.... Lots of love ❤❤❤❤
I’d love it if you did a video where viewers send in photos of themselves for you to class their Kibbe body type
600k!!! Congrats 💖💖💖
You clarified alot up I found confusing in understanding the body types... and I'm still learning, but the more I watch your videos the more understanding I get. In the beginning I thought I must be a gamine because I'm only 5'1" and look young for my age but my answers didn't fit exactly so I was confused... but one day it clicked and I knew I was a TR. I 💗 your videos, Aly, and just how talented you are here, and with your music!!!
Maybe you could do some more commonly mistyped celebrities? Also do you think people can find their type easier looking at essence? Does that shine through?
So many videos and I am still unsure of which bodytype I belong to. Like I cannot relate to it at all. Please do a video with Asian body types!!
I really like your channel and the explanation of the Kibbe system. I found out in your detailed video of the body types that I am a dramatic classic. Then, I looked up the clothes best suited for that type and a lot of them are clothes I have and feel they look best in me anyway! I like to change up my look every so often, but the basics tell the true story. 😊
I checked out David Kibbe’s Metamorphosis book from the public library when it first came out (yes, I’m kinda old now, lol). I thought I was probably a soft gamine, but some features don’t quite fit (like my very thin lips, and I would say that overall my face looks more like a boy than a girl, let alone womanly). I’ve been watching this series and get more confused. I think I’m just not good at judging my own features. I am almost obsessed with figuring my type, and I just finally hit the subscribe button today, looking forward to seeing & hearing Aly clear up more of my confusion in upcoming videos, and going to go check out the Pinterest and other media. ❤️
The longer I dive in, the less sure I am of my type 😂 doesn't help that South Asians like me are seldom represented in typing, aside from Aishwarya Rai. As I've lost weight, I've been even less sure what type I am. I'm pretty sure I'm theatrical romantic, but my style tends to be more classic/gamine because that's what I like stylistically. I don't have that boyish frame so I'm pretty sure I'm not any type of gamine. Oh well.
Can you make a video on olive undertones
Aly has one already
Can you go into more detail or show more comparisons of hands, feet, arms, leg bone structure for the different types? It something I've never really thought about before and it's kind of hard to figure out!
The setting looks so beaufitul!!! ✨♥️
On the 'would you look with...' series, is there gong to be a 'would you look good with red hair?'.
Because I really would love to colour my hair, but have absolutely no clue how it would look, what colour I need, and if it would even be a colour option for me :D
Same 😂
I'm going to help folks out here because weight DOES matter a lot with your body type!!! I know because I've been bigger and smaller so I have the data and experience to make a fare comparison. This is important because those of you who have NEVER been overweight a day in your adult life don't know the differences in body types or shapes. For example, No matter my size my type or pheno-type is always Soft. Thicker in size I'm a Soft Natural. Thinner in size I'm a Soft Classic. The Natural and Classic parts of the body type is definitely defined by your weight!!! The Soft part of the body is defined by bone structure and height. Like I said, it takes people who have been through weight gains and losses to know the differences. So there is a difference and determines what you wear and how you feel about your look. Weight matters!!!
The point of not fixating on one single things is so important. I am clearly a romantic (10/15) with 4 classic, 1 dramatic (hair) and one natural (my hands) feature. And yet, my hands are really strong, muscular, very long and very wide. If I were to judge myself based on the hands, I'd be in the flamboyant natural corner, which is like absolutely not me.
Thank you for this! I get so frustrated at MerriamStyle typing pretty much everyone as a gamine based on the clothes they wear and her trying to delude herself as soft gamine.
Oh I missed your kibbevideos!!! Mooore please😍!!
I love that your 3 plants are 3 different kibbe types🤓😁😁
Aly, you are Incredibly talented in so many areas! I enjoy your body type videos but there is so much information in each one that I end up feeling overwhelmed and confused. Would love to see you focus on each particular Kibbe question in a separate video with lots of examples. Great work, though, in all your videos!
Hi Aly, could you do more about Male-Body-Types? That would be awesome! I try to train my eyes really hard, and it works quit well, but I have my struggles with men! Someone very hard for me is Alan Rickman, maybe he is a soft classic? Still I can see Dramatic in him, so maybe Dramatic Classic, but there are also some softer features, he seemed not to fit into dramatic or romantic, neither to soft-dramatic or theatrical romantic - you see, I am confused ...
She did
@@brittneylamar9864 i know she did, i just ask for another, a Video like this with some more examples, or so. =)
I love your videos, you have so much knowledge about the body types! Thank you for putting so much time and energy on them!
Love from Sweden 🇸🇪
YOUR HANDS ARE SO ADORABLE OMG
Aly! Can you do a video where you test us on determining another person's kibbe type (normal women/ celebs). Kinda like quiz first, answers and explanation at the end. It would help to understand if we've strained our eyes and if we understand the kibbe concepts. Thank you!!
Trained*
Please if anyone can HELP. I’m working on a beauty related video (hair color vs skin undertone) and there is a local celebrity I want to use as an example but I’m confused about her skin undertone😕 Her name is Haifa Wehbe. Sometimes I really feel that she has cool skin undertone cz
1)she has some pink (porcelain look to her skin when not tanned) and
2)cz she looks awesome in black hair (which looks best on cool-toned skin).
But then sometimes when tanned she looks yellow or brown BUT I tell myself that she can’t be warm cz according to Ally, black hair isn’t the ultimate best choice for warm skin and Haifa indeed black is her best hair color🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
I’m very confused please if anyone can help so I can complete my project I’ll be extremely grateful ❤️❤️
I agree with Haifa being , or actually a neutral with a for cool tones to work better for her :)x
What you are describing is Olive skin tone. It is technically a cool undertone but with a yellow overtone that is more prominent when tanned.
Renata Rouvinen thank you💗
Briar Annie thank for the answer💗 Btw can olive skin be either cool, warm, or neutral? Or there is no such thing as neutral olive?
@@briarannie4337 I actually don't think Haifa has olive skin, just a neutral skin tone that looks more warm tanned and full on cool when not, I actually have a very similar skin tone and when I look at Haifa's skin I don't see olive but maybe thats just me :)x
When I do the tests I always get theatrical romantic but I am far from delicate with no visible waist let alone a wasp waist.
The suggested petite body styles are not just impossible for me to find in my clothing sizes, no matter my weight but specifically the proportions of the clothes are always off: arms too tight,body fabric too short, waist line in wrong place.
I'm 5feet tall but "gamine&romantic"look ridiculous on me and more importantly don't fit my personality.
I look and feel best in natural lines/proportions.
My most fussy/feminine/romantic I can wear and look like myself and look proportionate is soft romantic.
I wear regular shirts including men's shirts easily. I wear proportionate shoes for my frame but very wide. I look better in open /no necklines with loose flowing fabric and the less patterns on the better.
This is so confusing. I’m a mixture of A and D which seemingly don’t fit together.
I need help 😭 I've been looking at myself and I'd say I'm a romantic- theatrical romantic but I get confused with soft classic so now I don't know what I am.
maybe try on different kinds of clothes. If you feel like minimal detail and simple lines look better than lots of intricate details, that could mean you're in the classic category. Think of accessories and hairstyles also.
@@orangeorblue132 lace, some medium sized flowers stamps and lines go well with me but boho style stamps are a no. I'm a classic then?
@@yasminout I mean sure, it could mean that simpler details look better on you based on that but I'd say think about other things too. For example do you feel like you need to make your hair very neat and simple in order for it to look right? Or do you feel like too much lace, too many ruffles or any stuff like that is just too much on you and you wish you could take some of the details off?
@@orangeorblue132 Neat hairstyles makes me look plain, and there's never too much lace.
@@yasminout well sounds to me like you're likely not a classic then. If you feel like romantic lines look right on you then you're probably some kind of a romantic. If not, soft gamine is also a possibility
What was very helpful for me to understand my body type was to see myself side by side with my two sisters in photos. We each have a different body type. Similar coloration and height, but my face is smaller, and I'm generally softer than them. Comparing really helps a lot.
I really need you as my personal styler 🤣... would love to discuss fashion and style with you. The only TH-camr that actually know about all this and promotes natural beauty and that your flaws are your strengths. Keep it up, if you ever want to come to Stockholm feel free to address me you will be so welcome !
Ok, so, I'm tall (5'10''), I am average boned, the top of my body is bigger because of the twins, but my behind is small because of a small back area. I have an hourglass figure, I think, because I have a small waist but I've been told by my doctor that I have small hips (which is a surprise to me, I always thought I had big hips). I have soft facial features except my nose. What body type do you think I have?
My face is inarguably romantic. It's very feminine, large eyes, full lips, rounded nose, not prominent jaw, full cheeks, etc, but my body sends very mixed messages. My shoulders stand out a lot, they're one of my favorite features, but they're quite broad relative to face and frame. I have very full wide hips and my shoulders are just as wide as my hips and they're quite blunt. My arms and legs are fairly long for my height and most people think I am of average height, though I'm just shy if 5'4", so while I'm not tall, my vertical line is a wee bit longer.
I thought I might be a Soft Natural, but my face doesn't line up with that and even when I'm really lean my body is still curvier than most. I don't have the body proportions of a Gamine and most of my answers are D and E, so it isn't quite a mix. Theatrical Romantic seems like the default for me, a mostly romantic body with some edge, but I think because my shoulders are so prominent, I do love pulling off some of the more angular styles, especially if they drape and can kind of change my curves or if it's a fitted solid color. I can and do wear very ornate clothing, busy patterns, ruffles, and the like. A silk dress is my go to travel garment. I guess if I know what works for me that is all that should matter, but I don't perfectly line up. I do think my hands are quite average and soft for a Theatrical Romantic. They don't scream delicate to me, they seem a little wide for that. I dunno.
You look so happy and confident Aly! How is Florida?
It'd be good if we could input our measurements somewhere (including hands etc) and have it tell me