Star Trek: Picard - Legacy Support "Is Really Moving" Todd Stashwick Interview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Ellie & Seán sit down with Star Trek: Picard's Todd Stashwick to discuss 12 Monkeys, Captain Shaw, Star Trek: Legacy support, thenerdcircus.com and of course, the weather.
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Todd did such a wonderful job with the character arc for Captain Shaw. We need more of him in Star Trek!
Shaw needs to be on Lower Decks
“Star Trek doesn’t tell you what to think, Star Trek asks you to think.” A lot of people seemed to have forgotten that.
And it sometimes shows how. Though, admittedly, not very well at all. The Vulcans have honestly done a lot of damage. Writing characters and insisting logic is their shtick...but then never once having them be actually logical, is just...a serious fucking problem.
That and a scene with Janeway and Tuvok where Janeway comments that the power and flaw of logic is that you can use it to justify anything... Which, is very literally not true. It's like claiming you can use math to get any answer you want from any problem that exists. It just does not operate that way, at all. If it does, then you've very obviously done something completely wrong. If 2+2=5...you've fucked up, severely and obviously.
Asking someone to "think" without teaching them the procedure for doing so...is really just asking someone to bullshit themselves into believing whatever they want...or whatever someone else has subtly convinced them they want.
🙄Like the showrunners for TNG, DS9, Voyager, Ent... Oh, and TOS, TAS, Discorvery, and Strange New Worlds, too...🙄
A lot of the showrunners did too. It's why Discovery failed.
@@TNEQL I don't know why that matters. The show just wasn't particularly good.
It shouldn't have made any difference if they told anyone what to think. None of you know how in the first place.
Absolutely! At least somebody gets it.
Love him. He’s such a nice person! Met him once at GalaxyCon. Such a gentleman.
Cool
Please tell Todd that my whole family absolutely *LOVED* him on Picard. He was a real standout in a very standout season. What an amazing character and performance. And Ellie and Sean, I love how you guys engage with Star Trek and present your stuff.
Further edit: Finding out that Todd is easily as nerdy as I am is soooo gratifying.
Give us the Stashwick lost era between Wolf 359 and the begining of S03 of PIC so we can learn about one of the best captains in recent trek history.
Why did they have to kill him off
@@crunchthenumbers maybe they'll retcon it somehow...who knows
@@crunchthenumbers - because they went 100% fan service instead of 80%
Garth first, though!
I wonder if yould do digital de-aging without it looking completely terrible.
Fantastic interview. Todd is one of the best additions to Trek in decades. Wish Shaw wasn't dead!
He's just "Picard dead"
"dont touch my stuff."
He's resting!
Exactly, we never saw his funeral. Seven actually injected him with Nanites trying to save him but preserving him. Later, he wakes up to Dr. Bashir, who recruits him into Section 31, publicly acknowledged as dead. He struggles to deal with the fact he has Borg Nanites in him, and eventually get re-discovered by main cast, as their missions intertwine. After saving the day in some capacity, he gets re-enlisted back into Star Fleet, and gets to work on repairing ships at the Museum Space Station with Geordi. Sound Goods.
I don't care how they bring him back (rewind time, alternate version, some Nexus magic, Bajoran Orb magic, alien medicine, etc), but we need more Captain Liam Shaw and Seven of Nine. I love that Todd Stashwick is also a big Star Trek fan.
I love Todd Stashwick! I would watch him in anything. Great that you had him join you for this discussion.
If they do Legacy I would love to see Stashwick casted as a new model ECH to assist Captain Seven and Raffi from time to time.
that be tempting but what would happen to Jack Crusher? I doubt Jack will be much help probably closer to a hindrance.
Shaw is a self-confessed grease monkey - maybe the Enterprise-G could have a holographic chief engineer?
That would be a waste of Todd. Just keep Shaw as Captain of another ship, maybe a new Titan.
@@jasonsumma1530 was just a thought. I imagine jack can still do a lot of things a hologram can't. Like leave the ship.
I've often wondered why starfleet doesn't give ships' computers a holographic avatar to interface with the crew. No autonomous control like HAL9000 but more a point of communication with knowledge and a personality.
Have him be Jack’s training hologram, like Janeway on Prodigy.
I will summarize my thoughts for an easier read.
- I think Todd deserves to bring Shaw back as he did a fantastic job with the character and I think one way to honour the character without making him Captain of the ship, and I have said this before elsewhere, is to make him "Captain of Engineering" aboard the Enterprise G. He would hold a position only one other character that we know of has e.g. Scotty.
- Todd mentions keeping aspects of the character true, and I think one way is to keep the subtle clash between Shaw and Seven. Under his brash deminer toward Seven, he does appreciate her talents. It would show from time to time.
- Exploring his past could be done, starting an episode of doing so as a flashback of him at Wolf 359. A flashback done similarly like Picard's was in First Contact. Flash back, disaster and destruction, and then the camera pulling away from those reflections in Shaw's eye. Showing that they still haunt him.
- One way to bring him back is Q creates a time remnant (flash reference) just before the phaser blast hits. Possibly starting as a lesson for Jack Crusher, but Jack makes a case toward the end of the episode and allows Shaw to remain, as Q was going to merge him with the remnant again. Just one idea.
- overall, we the fans need Legacy, and personally I would like to see Shaw comeback.
Why not bring him back as an Emergency Engineering Hologram? "Please state the nature of the engineering miracle needed."
@@WilliamDeLong-ky3zi As far as I know, we don't have an emergency engineer hologram. Problem is, Shaw never came across as a miracle worker. Another reason is there are probably some parts of engineering which could mess up the hologram matrix due to the energies involved.
@@jasonsumma1530 yes well, it's not Hard SF, so they can technobabble out of that too. I mean if you want to talk about that, there's so many other problems....FTL travel, FTL comms, magic gravity floors, anti-gravity, sound in space, transporters....
There's no reason Shaw's AI can't be something that runs on its own server with its own 100 days of battery backup etc. 🙂
A great interview with a great actor. I love the timbre and quality of his voice.
Bring Shaw back as an Emergency Engineering Hologram. "Please state the nature of the jury-rigging needed." Imbue him with the personalities of previous engineers (Scotty) but also his memories (like from Wolf 359). Data could help design him.
"The Doctor" could help
I watched 12 Monkeys when it first aired. Since then I've probably rewatched it 8 times. Each time I'll pick up something I missed the prior time. You really need to pay attention when watching or you will miss things. So so good!
Todd Stashwick seems like such a genuinely cool guy. I'm not usually one to enjoy interviews all that much, but this was a delight.
Yay love the intro from Nana, and the chat with Todd 🖖
So so good
I would love to see Todd Stashwick in future Trek.
Thank you Trek Culture for this and giving me the start of my Birthday. Season 3 of Picard got my through my final semester of my Diploma of Counselling. This year is my second semester of my Bachelors' of counselling at Uni.
LOVE that man!!!
"Legacy" could have Shaw be a holographic version of him that Seven uses to bounce her thoughts & feelings off of. Ironic, as she was tormented by him as 1st Officer, but we know how Shaw really felt about her in the end.
What I liked about Shaw was how he reflected all those vets that came out of their war and had that, "why did I make it through" and that hatred for the opponent, many times racial, they fought against.
There were WW2 vets that came out of it absolutely hating Japanese people. It took years and decades to de-condition themselves from that mentality. I think Shaw reflected that PTSD mentality.
And like how Star Trek tries to be positive, Shaw shows PTSD isn't hopeless.
I wish they would just find him in the past and bring him back. He was awesome. He's a quiet bad ass Captain.
I LOVE the LA news clip that has the anchor saying that it's literally freezing outside and it was like 58 degrees.
It might feel like it's freezing to you, but it's about 23 degrees away from actually freezing.
I like that Todd is aware that it's a matter of prospective
I would love to see Todd in Trek again no matter what his role was. :D However, the thought just occurred to me that he'd probably make a good Baylan Skoll too!
Such an amazing person. I got to see Todd when he visited Sydney last year and he brought the same energy and humour!
I honestly love the small talk and would 100% tune in for just general conversations with people who's work we love, but the actor we don't know.
Please do more space chat!!
Yeah, 'shooting the shit' is an amazing way to interview.
Love it.
Ellie, Sean, and Todd in the same damned interview? Christmas came early folks, more of this over the year please!
It’s always a joy seeing 3 of my favorite people all at once ❤
Todd's background setup, ONE OF US!!
The way you both light up talking to Todd is exactly how I would if I ever got to talk to either of you.
Central Vs. Culture on (insert game) still needs to happen ❤
Thanks for including the 12 Monkeys stuff! I am a Star Trek fan x 50+ years, but am half way through 12 Monkeys and totally loving it!!!
The way Todd describes Shaw is perfect! As a service member I would happily serve under Shaw. Hats off to Todd for this performance! Thank you for coming to this to podcast!
I got to meet Todd at Galaxy Con in Raleigh NC in July of '23. He was very nice to talk to. Ask him about seeing the Transporter at the USS Kittyhawk Display.
The Shaw charterer could come back often, appearing in Seven's mind as she sleeps or regenerates. Shaw helping her with growth situations of being a new captain and dealing with people. ...those WWJD moments
Thanks y’all. That was great!
Great interview ellie and Sean, we also got an actor who has grown up watching the franchise, so it's ultra emotional and special
Just over a minute in and Todd Stashwick just triggered Siri on my HomePod.
Just finished Picard S3 again. So good. I even created an admiral class of ship. All ships are named for legendary admirals. And my first is the USS PICARD NCC-408705
A great interview and a humble human being.
PS, his book of Fantasy-Themed drinks is spectacular! Such a well rounded, awesome human being!!! Great interview y'all thank you so much!
Great interview with Todd Stashwick .
Great show........well done
I love when an actor truly gets their character. It's so much more satisfying than someone who just reads the script and follows direction.
Great hearing his thoughts on the franchise. Two things stuck out to me. First, talking about how people don't have to like all Trek. Glad someone said it. Seen so many fans act like you're not a "real Trekkie" or something if you don't like all (especially the new) series. Second, and maybe more importantly, how he mentions the quote about how Trek, at its best, doesn't tell you what to think. It asks you what to think. This idea is the main thing that turned me off from Discovery and season 2 of Picard. To me (and of course all of this is subjective) those were very much about telling the audience what positions they needed to have on social issues and came across with having a sense of absolute moral superiority. For me, SNW reversed course on this and almost felt like it intentionally made Pike an open minded captain that was extremely open to other points of view. I think if future Trek can go back to asking people to think, it can reunify a good chunk of the fanbase.
Thanks!
Great interview
Handwaving here - when Seven was saying goodbye to Shaw, she introduced her last nanoprobes. He regenerates slowly, somehow. Maybe they have to break him out of Daystrom Station or something. He's changed, doesn't want to be a captain any longer. Wants to explore part of himself. So many opportunities. Also, opens up Seven having to realize she has no more connection to the hive or something to explore for a season or something. Better writers than me can flesh that all out. Or completely ignore it. ;)
No shout out to Boris Velejo or The Hildebrant Bros in that fabtasy nostalgia lol? It's funny that he mentioned Led Zeppelin & the Tolkien references, I remeber reading The Hobbit my freshman year in high school (75) & then suddenly understanding certain lyrics in a different way. He also listed most of my favorite fantasy films. Mr. Tod is always a great guest ❤
Best part of interview. I can hear the Chicago accent and attitude. Way to represent
Todd thanks for understanding its cold out here in the Dakotas
I loved Todd in 12 Monkeys. That was a rare show that managed to get more unhinged and still have better character moments the further it went.
Such a fan of this dude, we need him in more trek!
Todd always does great interviews. It’s time for a 12 monkeys reboot!
Top notch...you nailed it Todd.
Love Todd Stashwick 😊
Hi guys good to see you all.... you should come to Michigan now, weather is in the twenties
I have been looking for some new Trek like shows, so now I need to see the 12 Monkeys series of 2015. Looking forward to it.
Delighted to see that Mr. Stashwick has some substantial nerd cred alongside being a talented actor and charming interviewee.
As for the lingering question of how Shaw could come back in Legacy, I have touted an idea under a few relevant TH-cam videos in the past, and I may as well do the same here. It's quite simple really: what if Legacy began by showing us that, in desperation, Seven tried to stick him full of nanoprobes to bring him back a la Neelix in the Voyager episode "Mortal Coil" (maybe AFTER the Borg crisis had ended, since who knows what might have happened if she tried DURING the crisis, and Neelix had been dead for nineteen hours by the time she tried it on him)? Perhaps human physiology isn't quite as... adaptable as Talaxian, though, and it SEEMS to fail at first, and his body is shipped off to Starfleet Medical afterward and Seven and everyone else assume the worst.
Fast Forward to maybe the end of Star Trek: Legacy's first episode, wherein Captain Seven of Nine has saved the day, but in a cowboy cop non-Starfleet-approved sort of way. The Admiralty still want her to be a captain, as all of the recent various crises of the last few decades have left Starfleet in need of all the officers they can put rank pips on, and by the 25th Century even the most hard-nosed of Starfleet Admirals can see there is a place in the fleet for more rule-bending captains of the Kirk wheelhouse. However, they do decide to temporarily assign one of their own to The Enterprise G in a strictly observational and advisory capacity. Well, who else would make more sense to send than recently promoted Commodore Liam Shaw? That big reveal can end the first episode.
The second episode can explain that the nanoprobes did successfully revive him from being straight-up dead. They simply had taken significantly longer to repair a human than Neelix. Possible reasons Seven didn't hear about it could be as elaborate as Shaw working with Section 31 since then and his resurrection resultantly being kept classified at first, or maybe as simple as The Enterprise G being too far from the heart of Starfleet to have gotten the news in a timely manner.
As for Shaw himself, well he could quite believably be upset about the circumstances of his return and could easily hold it against Seven for carrying it out when he seemed pretty at peace with dying when it happened (and maybe the process of very slowly being brought back from the dead was... not pleasant). Also the sheer oddity of having not only improbably survived his first encounter with The Borg only to be killed by them decades later, only to then be brought back by their technology not long after would not be lost on him and would probably be the source of some... character stuff. Y'know? Also, it could well be that his body still isn't in ship shape after being reanimated, and that could make for some... stuff happening. Y'know? Possibly the nanoprobes are still working on his body and he can get better as the season goes on. Maybe, like Neelix, he still needs to periodically be injected with nanoprobes to keep himself going, much to his own angst.
Shaw and Seven's arc would involve navigating this adversarial yet still respectful relationship where they have this weird and conflict-filled history, yet they do see the value in each other. It's entirely likely that Shaw could understand exactly WHY Seven decided to try to keep him from dying for both utilitarian (again, shortage of officers) and personal reasons, but it's so far from what he would have wanted that he still holds it against her. And of course from Seven's perspective the man is still one part nurturing and like nine parts asshole, and he's still here shadowing her even now that she's in command.
Ultimately, by season's end, Shaw's assignment concludes and the Admirals are happy enough with Captain Seven, but maybe some figurative sort of door is left open to keep Shaw in the picture as long as Stashwick wants to stay on.
Anyway, that's all I've got. If you managed to read all the way, I thank you for doing so.
And Terry Matalas, if you're reading this, call me? I'm looking for work! 😆 Heh, I won't hold my breath.
Looking forward to the new Nerd Circus projects!
12 Monkeys is criminally underwatched. Syfy did that show dirty.
I have so got to rewatch 12 Monkeys, had some of my all time favourite TV scenes. Jennifer in the war trenches anyone? Genius.
Great Character-Great Acting
Love the idea of someone in Starfleet seeing Picard as a villain .
"Shaw was right." YES HE WAS! lmao I love Deacon as well, though I'm not done watching (it's okay, I'm fully aware of what happens - Todd has a tendency to play characters that end messily, so I wanted to be prepared. *stares in 9-1-1 Lone Star trauma*
I would argue that 12 Monkeys is more Stargate SG1, but I do see the Trek analogy as well.
"Shoe-horny" the way Todd can make me cackle is unreal. I love him so much. He's such a lovely, funny, generous man. And I'm so incredibly jealous you got to chat to him.
Listened to the full interview and i have a question about production: when you say a line was adlibbed, do you do retakes of that?
My favorite Stashwick character was Carmelo Dante from Burn Notice.
The devil on the wall from Tomb of Horrors sets things off perfectly.
Love the Nana intro and the return of the greatest dipshit from Chicago. Todd Stashwick is glorious and we need more Captain Shaw in some way.
If they don't bring him back they need their heads testing, one of the best characters of all time in Trek and there are so many ways of bringing him back, Maybe as an Admiral tasked with overseeing the Eterprise doing Special missions.
Todd really earns our respect and admiration of his role as Captain Shaw. If there is a way to bring him back to Trek, make it so!
Seriously want a Cpt. Shaw show!
The best Star Trek is the one you like... I wish Fandom would see this point of view and stop attacking Trek and each other over what they dont like. There's lots of Trek, embrace what you enjoy and let it go when you don't.
Here's a great way to get Todd back on a Legacy Trek show, even though he's dead -- y'all recall how, in Picard's first season, Rios had let the ship program all of its emergency holograms as various versions of himself? Well, in 2401, every Starfleet ship has emergency holograms, right? And Shaw is, among other things, someone who, to put it nicely, likes the sound of his own voice, right? So, it can turn out that every emergency hologram on the Enterprise-G is a Holo-Shaw of one stripe or another. From the EMH to the EEH to the ECH, they're all various faces of Liam Shaw. Todd could have a LOT of fun playing with that...
Yes it needs to happen
Love that Ellie and Sean both had the same look I did when Todd said "Its cold, its 58 degrees." Can see in real time "Fifty eight fucking degrees?! That's boilin-... wait Americans use Fahrenheit."
I mean, I already liked him at that point, but "Yeah, it's been a weird week" put me fully in Captain Shaw's fan club.
He's just a chill dude.
Get Captain Seven to find Shaw as a drone in a Borg wreckage. They assimilated Shaw while in control of most of the Titan and sent him to a nearby cube. Seven can help Shaw transition back to being fully human.
Todd is great.
Yes to Legacy! More TNG cast!
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I love this guy! He is the best spokesman for Nerds of a Certain Age like me. I want him to get a job on SNW! Imagine him as a slightly younger, significantly fitter Cyrano Jones!!!
PS the drink recipes in his book are amazing as is the book design and art.
You did a Todd Stashwick Interview?!!!!!
We need more Trek with him immediately.
I must beg for forgiveness, I have no idea who is "Todd" is, before I watched Picard, and of course, watching the first few episodes he comes across as a perfect 'antagonist/a-hole'.
Man, am I glad he was casted and gave us his performance.
*Sean Ferrick* What is that Uniform? It looks like a Red version of Geordi's Engineering Jacket. ⚡⚡⚡⚡
Captain Shaw needs to become a show.... That's a character I want to see more of!!!
Todd Stashwick did an excellent job making me hate and like a character at the same time. That's not easy to do..
If they bring back Shaw, it puts Seven in a tough spot.
I think she should just be incredibly curious about him, as well as unsure of herself as captain, so she reads/listens to his logs a lot, so we get Stashwick in voice-over or even in flashbacks.
I really miss Captain Liam Shaw. I really hope they bring him back in some flashback or something.
Lower Decks
I'm in Washington DC. It's 18°!!!
Damn I love Todd Stashwick.
Brilliant, what a guy.
58 Fahrenheit is about 15 Celsius.
They could pull a Georgiou and bring mirror Shaw from the mirror universe to the Prime universe. It would be fun to see a darker version of Shaw.
Best way to bring him back. Season 1 finally of Legacy, have Seven in trouble and have Shaw show up as an admiral to help rescue the enterprise. Maybe he is the captain of a prototype ship and he is in another Golem like Picard. Make it So!
Todd Stashwick legend.
"Shoe horny, that's a fetish" thanks Tood for making me laugh out loud!
What I picked out, he referenced Lower Decks and that cast with some very casual familiarity. I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't show up in Lower Decks next season.
Heres a pitch. Have a story about Shaw and Wolf 359 ala Titanic meets The impossible. With Murphys Law in full effect. Also displaying his will to survive and his ability to see him as an everyman first officer, much like Billy Riker. With that note, have J.Frakes direct the legacy episode as a one-off.
You're welcome.
I think the current rip that Warner Bros has of the animated Hobbit and the Return of the King are missing sound effects.
100% what we're here for haha
I loved Twelve Monkeys and i was expecting it to just be another show resting on the laurels of the movie it's based on but it was so much more
ELLIE!!!
He is very eloquent interviewee
I rather enjoyed this interview. He made Captain Shaw so believable. Sisko had a similar chip on his shoulders and did quite well. It does make sense for Legacy not being done quite yet especially since Paramount is cutting back on the Trek shows or allowing others to pick them up. If we would see Legacy, it probably be 2-3 years depending on financing.