I hope this video helps if you are thinking about buying this for emulation 🎮 First Look: th-cam.com/video/3C6ekDyO18s/w-d-xo.html Steam Deck OLED vs. Switch, Ally & Legion Go: th-cam.com/video/W4qhIEh0L_w/w-d-xo.html Corrections 21:20 - Mario Kart Wii (thanks to @gavpool8196 )
So as I understand it, the Steam Deck can basically handle anything pre-PS3. PS3 is hit or miss? And Switch is hit or miss? My running theory is that NSO will eventually just be an online service available on other platforms. Nintendo could make a killing with that. I feel like a good chunk of games folks emulate are on NSO already, but not everyone wants to buy a Switch. Especially not PC players, nor PS5/Xbox die-hards.
@takiudon can you please test hdr in reteoarch and let me know if it works with shaders? There is a subset of hdr shaders you can dl that look amazing on my lg OLED, curious how the deck fairs.
I used to never even consider the Steam Deck for emulation due to battery life. But after seeing your video, apart from portability I think this beats even the Ayn Odin 2 value wise. Thanks for this.
much better than sthupid ps portal. Steam deck oled has solid specs while sthupid only has streaming device spec can't even run emus or native games. STHUPID SONY
Been thinking about getting me a Steam Deck most of this year. I eventually decided I would pick up a discounted one during the Winter sale most likely. But they announced the new OLED model out of nowhere, so I caved and bought myself one this morning as soon as orders started being accepted 😂
@@Drvillain1well call me crazy but it's probably because it's the exact same chip, only significant change you'll notice when it comes to emulation is the screen and battery life.
I commend you for the quality of all your vids, they're so in-depth and entertaining to watch, the 30 mins just flew by. The Steam Deck OLED is super exciting, not sure I'll jump on the train just yet but man what a huge upgrade to the battery.
Love this detailed breakdown and even more excited to receive my OLED Deck in the mail after watching this. Thanks for all the work it must have taken to put this together!
I've only had my Steam Deck for 4 days and I'm already in love beyond my wildest beliefs. The OLED screen is gorgeous, the UI is intuitive for beginners and has wide open doors for experts to tinker with, the speed of the SSD and improved WiFi chip put every other device I personally own currently to shame. Downloads games faster than my current PC could dream of, loads things as fast as a PS5 (in some cases) and is a moderately budgeted emulation geeks wettest dream with the amount of consoles it runs nearly perfectly 😂 I've been playing Animal Crossing New Horizons at least once a day on a new save, Spider-Man Remastered (now my 11th playthrough across all platforms(PS4/5, PC & Deck)), GTA4, Minecraft Java Edition, Battlebit remastered (with some hacky controller configs), Fallout New Vegas. Hell, even games like Batman Arkham Knight, Gmod (for the TARDIS mods), Just Cause 3 and whatnot, some really beefy titles/mods thats visuals and/or physics really test the Deck but it still somehow pulls through. Well, more than pulls through, it STEAM ROLLS these games, light pun intended. They run a dream on great graphics settings despite some minor mapping issues in some games. But seeing intensive games run near flawlessly on the go, even with reduced battery life, is insane to me. Having some games that are PS5 level, like SMRemastered, a literal PS5/PC release working without a hitch is amazing, especially on that OLED screen. The beauty and clarity of the colours helps hide some of the visual blemishes, which is odd. Surely you'd think a bigger screen with no resolution upgrades would make them more apparent, but at least for me the games look far better than I'd expect. I really have to look for issues, but by the time I notice them, the game swiftly whisks me away in a state of awe at how I'm even running the game, let alone running it really damn well.
How is ps2 emulation mate on the oled. Has it improved much ? I'm so tempted to swap from the odin 2 for the large screen... but the odin 2 is amazing at ps2 emulation you see.
Wow! that wattage usage is very impressive. the speakers on the LCD are loud but the OLED has higher quality bass and sound in general. A big complaint of the original deck was the popping sounds of the speakers
These battery life changes are a game changer for me. That was the biggest thing that ruined the original steam deck. The battery was just a bit too short
@@SuperYtc1hm not really 2 hours. Did you watch the video? Almost all switch and ps3 games are going up to 15 watts. The only ones that exceeded that were skate 3 and Zelda which is around 2 hours and 30-40 minutes. This is a lot better then ally and Lenovo ( which mind you the Lenovo has the same battery ) and nets only a hour and 30 minutes. Ya going forward you should wait for the deck 2 if you want around 3-4 hours at max.
What an absolute game changer. The rear motherboard is the last piece of the modding evolution puzzle. And it's been done so well here. Great video as always!
@@MorrisseyMusei don't really care about native compatibility when proton lets me play 90% of my games with literally zero issues and running just as good as it would on windows
I have been strongly considering getting a Steam Deck and the reviews for the OLED model have set me over the edge. I'm glad I waited until the OLED models came out because they definitely interest me more than the normal ones did. And, I am looking forward to both regular games and emulated ones :D. I only got the base 512GB model but I'm happy with it given my other expenses lately. >.> I consider it an early holiday (don't normally celebrate Xmas) gift :D Or, a late bday gift.
@@tobeiyyy it’s great! I have a number of emulators set up on it as well as lots of my main steam games and things tend to run smooth. Battery life isn’t too terrible if you stick to normal settings and it does look great. You can even install third party game launchers too like battle net, Amazon, etc. I played wow for a bit on it lol.
I noticed that you mislabeled Mariokart wii as mariokart seven at 21:20 😅 but of course, great work as always, I’ve been a subscriber of your channel for quite a while now and I love all of your videos. So informative and awesome to watch. Thank you for all of the work and time you put into these 😊😊😊
0:30 so just pointing out the obvious, you can play any roms (even ones Nintendo online doesn't have, including hacked roms) on the official Nintendo emulators (or unofficial) using a modded switch. Works 100% offline as well, no monthly fee.
Your desk light set up was washing out the color differences between the two somewhat, taking away from how drastic of a difference it reallt is. You can see an example when your light moves off Mario's face on SM64
Looks like a nice refresth honestly. I'm happy with my OG model, but I think anyone looking to get an SD for the first time should opt for the newer model. Either way, Even the OG model is still a fantastic little computer. Ah yes, FFV, one of the first non-emulated games I beat on my unit. (FFV Pixel remaster) I digress. The OLED model is just good news in general. A fancy newer version for those who can afford it, and the previous model will now be SUPER affordable now that everyone wants to get rid of them. Especially used, Just in time for the holidays!
Managed to get the LE OLED 1TB ordered. They are releasing the limited edition in batches it feels like. Sells out and becomes available after a while for the time being.
You got fooled into paying $30 extra for the same product. You’re the same greedy guy who went out and bought 10 tonnes of toilet paper just because you thought it was limited edition.
I'm really impressed with the battery life on the Steam Deck OLED. Seeing that the difference in battery consumption is significant just by using better lithography, would it make sense for them to release another refresh that uses the same APU at 4nm in the future?
@@elmalloc It's not available in my country until probably second half next year. Still thinking which one would be better for emulation, Steam Deck OLED or Ayn Odin 2
@@peejae082004depends on what you want to emulate and what your budget is. If all you want is 16bit and DS there is a plethora of devices for 1/3 the price that would probably be a better choice for instance.
1. Was the yuzu battery test on handheld or docked mode? 2. So RetroArch is a no for now? Unless you enjoy switching refresh rate. 3. With steam os 3.5, is disabling SMT still needed for best emulation performance?
1. Handheld. 2. RA seems to be a little crap. I default to 60 as default and make per-game profiles to 30. If a game uses mixed content for FMVs, you have to switch up to 60. I would assume they will try to fix this. 3. It is not necessary like it was before.
I just saved this video in my playlist because of the retro games that I knew after watch this. Amazing how you know lots of good retro games, I wish it was easier to config Steam Deck to work just like you showed here.
Dude those battery drain test wow, thank you for showing those. How long do you think it takes to get a 50% and 100% charge after its been drained to turning off?
It takes a bit to get going from 0%, but it shoots up to ~60-70% in a little over 40 minutes once it gets north of 10%. The final stretch slows down a lot.
You know how you can look at a game and it just takes you back to a moment in hour childhood? You did that for me with Super R Type. Core memory unlocked!
So many people talking down the etched glass vs gloss screen but your videos it looks fantastic and deep black still! Helped make my decision on going for the etched glass model!
The cloudy anti glare bugs me as much on handhelds as it does on monitors. I went for the 512 non etched as well. I love it on the OLED switch, and I’m sure I will love it on the Steam Deck.
Honestly, imo it's absolutely fair to strive for the etched glass version, but for me, I have lived my whole life with glossy screens and meanwhile I don't even care about reflections. I have learned to live with it. That's why it's been the 512gb model for me. However, it all boils down to personal preference and what your eyes have become used to
The color difference is probably due to a software parameter problem on the Switch (limited rgb range 16-255 instead of full range 0-255) because otherwise the displays are identical and it shouldn't grey the blacks.
I already own the 512GB previous Steam Deck flagship but no regrets getting the Limited Edition Steam Deck OLED! Can't wait to load a bunch on retro games on it! 😁
IIRC there's a setting in developer settings that you can switch to the old fps and refresh rate settings, I do hope it is there cause that 30/60 switching is gonna be annoying.
Have you tried Retroarch with HDR (both in system settings and in the Retroarch software) enabled? That is what I use on my OLED TV and it makes games really pop, like they do on my PVM CRT. Curious of it all works as it should on the OLED deck!
Shouldn't you set up a VPN on your router so that way any device connected to the router will go through the VPN no matter what and then you won't have to worry about how that one application won't go through your VPN? I don't know how VPNs work but hopefully I'm saying something smart.
That was really informative! Honestly, I don't care about the minor visual differences between the OLED and IPS panels, but the power consumption differences do matter to me. I was quite surprised by how well the OLED performed compared to the IPS.
Huge visual difference between even the best IPS and OLED. And the battery life improvement really comes down to the battery capacity getting upgraded from 40Wh to 50Wh. The OLED screen actually gobbles up more power, considering the much higher peak brightness and higher refresh rates.
Anyone know the song here? 7:51. I tried Shazam but nothing and a quick google didn’t find anything either. quick edit: Watching someone play mission 1 of n64 fox, that song isn't their either so idk how to find it.
Now the ultimate question is the touchscreen, the touchscreen on the original LCD version is trash, what about the touchscreen on the new OLED? Is it more accurate and reliable or is it still choppy, not accurate and horrendous experience as it was on the original LCD steam deck?
Bro. Trying to order this thing. Calm down with your timing. Give me an hour :-p - Appreciate your review on the screens. It really sealed my decision to get the etched one again.
Got the Limited Edition. Had to have them refund 700.00 in wallet cash back as I used another card in the nonsense the first thirty minutes were! So excited to play all the things!
Holy heck, how did you get Skate working so well at 24:47? I tried to get it working well on the base Deck but it was a stuttering mess. Did it take a lot of tweaking? (Pardon the pun)
OMFG i was waiting for someone to make a video like this .. this is the main thing i wanted the OLED emulation from psx with crt filter to yuzu switch ! LETS GOOOOO BABY IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTY 🤌🏽🔥
Great vid man, subscribed! I have the LCD SD but just ordered the OLED SD as well. I have a arcade cabinet I built around the steam deck so the OD deck will stay with it.
Can you install Steam games on the internal SSD and then run retro emulation games from an SD card only? I’m considering getting a steam deck and I’m wondering exactly how to manage games with both modern and emulated.
I have the 1TB sd card with all my games, but didn’t know about there being a process of migrating from my old to my new until after I sold my old model. What steps should I take to get emulation running on a new steam deck with all of my saved content?
Wait wait, Taki, so does this mean we now don't have to use the Power Tools plugin to reduce the amount of threads to 3 in order to get perfect, full speed GameCube and Wii emulation? I remember that being a problem earlier on, is that not the case anymore?
The battery times are insane, especially if you use things like Power tools. Like, by downclocking the memory through power tools I was able to get nearly 10 hours of battery out of a gbc game, having it running at only 4.4 watts. The idea that through the OLED I could end up with like 12 or more hours blows my mind.
Now all I want to see is benchmark results using Moonlight to see decoding times on all available codecs. Ive over heard the ms is as low as 0.5ms... Yes you read that correct.
Would be great if you could go over the best ways to migrate LCD deck to a new OLED deck. I understand there are multiple ways. Via backup apps, network transfers, swapping the SSD 1 for 1, cloning SSD, etc. There aren’t very many videos on this that would be at your quality. For me I have a 512gb deck and I got a 1TB OLED. I think I want to clone my current deck onto the 1TB. But is that the best way? Easiest way?
For you, cloning would be the best bet if you do not want to swap to a lower drive size. You'll need a USB to m.2 adapter, and you can do the cloning process on a PC or on your Deck. That's the fastest way to get off the ground, and it is what I am planning on doing myself (except with a 512GB SSD cloned to a 512GB SSD)
@@TakiUdon I’ve never cloned a drive on Linux, I know on windows you need special steps to clone a smaller drive onto a larger drive to ensure the entire drive is usable. Is that the case for Steam OS? Thanks btw!
This video is literally perfect for someone like me who was looking into steam decks recently and appreciates the fact it can play some newer games but really only wanted one for emulation purposes! Also whats that song at 7:55?
Seems like a fantastic handheld. Would love to hear your thoughts on what is the best solution for an emulation-focused Linux mini-PC. Both hardware and software. Like, would it be best to just drop batocera onto a cheap N100 mini PC, or is there some better solution?
Excited to get this soon. Ended up getting the 1TB LE version since I just really liked that color wave. I just have an unrelated question: what is the skin you have on your original SD? It looks so cool!
Great selection of games for black level comparisons. Question when switching Steam Decks. Is it easy to copy over all your Emudeck stuff over to the new one? Can I just swap my old microsd and be good to go on the OLED?
It's easy. The tool that they have to manage save files handles the internal save files. You should have the rest on your SD. Pop that into your new Deck and rerun the installer so you can have the titles added as Steam titles.
I just have a quick question. I have emudeck as well as all of my dumped games on a 1tb SD card. Could I move my SD card to my oled or would I have to manually redo everything?
As someone who has the Lenovo Legion Go, I’ve got to say, this also looks amazing. What is 3DS emulation like? I can run Switch roms perfectly but there’s a bit of lagging on the 3DS roms. Weird. It should be the other way round lol.
I hope this video helps if you are thinking about buying this for emulation 🎮
First Look: th-cam.com/video/3C6ekDyO18s/w-d-xo.html
Steam Deck OLED vs. Switch, Ally & Legion Go: th-cam.com/video/W4qhIEh0L_w/w-d-xo.html
Corrections
21:20 - Mario Kart Wii (thanks to @gavpool8196 )
You said that Steam Deck goes to 20w, is that an OLED exclusive setting?
Have you tested performance for Metal Gear Solid 4 on RPCS3?
So as I understand it, the Steam Deck can basically handle anything pre-PS3. PS3 is hit or miss?
And Switch is hit or miss?
My running theory is that NSO will eventually just be an online service available on other platforms. Nintendo could make a killing with that. I feel like a good chunk of games folks emulate are on NSO already, but not everyone wants to buy a Switch. Especially not PC players, nor PS5/Xbox die-hards.
@takiudon can you please test hdr in reteoarch and let me know if it works with shaders? There is a subset of hdr shaders you can dl that look amazing on my lg OLED, curious how the deck fairs.
I used to never even consider the Steam Deck for emulation due to battery life. But after seeing your video, apart from portability I think this beats even the Ayn Odin 2 value wise. Thanks for this.
Never get tired of seeing retro games on an OLED.
Can't wait to play Donkey Kong country returns on an OLED panel. ;)
@@manuelkimpel3788oh yes, it will be one of the first games I play on OLED SD!
Looks sharp... very sharp... it almost hurts... but i like that
much better than sthupid ps portal. Steam deck oled has solid specs while sthupid only has streaming device spec can't even run emus or native games. STHUPID SONY
@@LazypunK07portal and deck, these are two different devices with different purposes to serve
Been thinking about getting me a Steam Deck most of this year. I eventually decided I would pick up a discounted one during the Winter sale most likely. But they announced the new OLED model out of nowhere, so I caved and bought myself one this morning as soon as orders started being accepted 😂
They likely won’t put the two OLED models on discount until the spring or summer sale. The remaining LCDs might
Get discounted though
Same, I hope I fall in love instead of regretting since $581 is a lot for me
i highly doubt they are going to put the oled models on sale that fast.
@@Ieo9017the remaining LCDs are already discounted
Awesome! Enjoy!
Finally someone covered the emulation on the oled model. Been waiting for a video on it because that is what i use a deck for.
seriously, i dont get why its so hard to find this topic addressed
@@Drvillain1well call me crazy but it's probably because it's the exact same chip, only significant change you'll notice when it comes to emulation is the screen and battery life.
I emulated the hell of my previous steam deck so I will be on OLED :)
@zackaryzee I think the ram being slightly better will give emulation a slight bump in preformance
you say that like retro game corps hasnt extensively done videos on it
Somebody pay this man, this is hands down, the most indepth handheld emulation hardware review!
I commend you for the quality of all your vids, they're so in-depth and entertaining to watch, the 30 mins just flew by. The Steam Deck OLED is super exciting, not sure I'll jump on the train just yet but man what a huge upgrade to the battery.
Love this detailed breakdown and even more excited to receive my OLED Deck in the mail after watching this. Thanks for all the work it must have taken to put this together!
Thanks for the support!
I've only had my Steam Deck for 4 days and I'm already in love beyond my wildest beliefs. The OLED screen is gorgeous, the UI is intuitive for beginners and has wide open doors for experts to tinker with, the speed of the SSD and improved WiFi chip put every other device I personally own currently to shame. Downloads games faster than my current PC could dream of, loads things as fast as a PS5 (in some cases) and is a moderately budgeted emulation geeks wettest dream with the amount of consoles it runs nearly perfectly 😂
I've been playing Animal Crossing New Horizons at least once a day on a new save, Spider-Man Remastered (now my 11th playthrough across all platforms(PS4/5, PC & Deck)), GTA4, Minecraft Java Edition, Battlebit remastered (with some hacky controller configs), Fallout New Vegas. Hell, even games like Batman Arkham Knight, Gmod (for the TARDIS mods), Just Cause 3 and whatnot, some really beefy titles/mods thats visuals and/or physics really test the Deck but it still somehow pulls through. Well, more than pulls through, it STEAM ROLLS these games, light pun intended.
They run a dream on great graphics settings despite some minor mapping issues in some games. But seeing intensive games run near flawlessly on the go, even with reduced battery life, is insane to me.
Having some games that are PS5 level, like SMRemastered, a literal PS5/PC release working without a hitch is amazing, especially on that OLED screen. The beauty and clarity of the colours helps hide some of the visual blemishes, which is odd. Surely you'd think a bigger screen with no resolution upgrades would make them more apparent, but at least for me the games look far better than I'd expect. I really have to look for issues, but by the time I notice them, the game swiftly whisks me away in a state of awe at how I'm even running the game, let alone running it really damn well.
How is ps2 emulation mate on the oled. Has it improved much ? I'm so tempted to swap from the odin 2 for the large screen... but the odin 2 is amazing at ps2 emulation you see.
This device is nothing short of amazing.
About 5 hours of battery life and 50% GPU bench short.
No VRR
Wow! that wattage usage is very impressive. the speakers on the LCD are loud but the OLED has higher quality bass and sound in general. A big complaint of the original deck was the popping sounds of the speakers
This is the perfect comprehensive video I wanted to see. Excellent content!
These battery life changes are a game changer for me. That was the biggest thing that ruined the original steam deck. The battery was just a bit too short
And 2 hours is enough? XD come on man..
@@SuperYtc1what do you mean two hours? These old titles are going to net you 10-12 hours
@@SuperYtc1hm not really 2 hours. Did you watch the video? Almost all switch and ps3 games are going up to 15 watts.
The only ones that exceeded that were skate 3 and Zelda which is around 2 hours and 30-40 minutes. This is a lot better then ally and Lenovo ( which mind you the Lenovo has the same battery ) and nets only a hour and 30 minutes.
Ya going forward you should wait for the deck 2 if you want around 3-4 hours at max.
What an absolute game changer. The rear motherboard is the last piece of the modding evolution puzzle. And it's been done so well here. Great video as always!
The last piece would be a library that was more than 10% native compatible with the OS...lol
@@MorrisseyMusei don't really care about native compatibility when proton lets me play 90% of my games with literally zero issues and running just as good as it would on windows
Please keep putting the link to the yellow cable you use!
Edit: HE DID IT YIPPEEE
Why?
@@LuisPerez-5 cause I want it
@@AnthonyMielethen buy it or bookmark the link lol
@DrMario_666 yeah but I keep forgetting :[
R.I.P to people like me who bought a Steam Deck just a couple of months before this was announced.
They were pissed.
I still bought an oled anyway 😅
why RIP? I'm happy I support a company that cares about customers, open source and make great hardware for the money.
I bought mine in April but I'll get the OLED as well lol.
I'm kinda pissed, yeah
Thanks!
This video convinced me to buy one today. Can't wait!
almost im on the fence...
I have been strongly considering getting a Steam Deck and the reviews for the OLED model have set me over the edge. I'm glad I waited until the OLED models came out because they definitely interest me more than the normal ones did. And, I am looking forward to both regular games and emulated ones :D. I only got the base 512GB model but I'm happy with it given my other expenses lately. >.> I consider it an early holiday (don't normally celebrate Xmas) gift :D Or, a late bday gift.
Whats your impression so far?
@@tobeiyyy it’s great! I have a number of emulators set up on it as well as lots of my main steam games and things tend to run smooth. Battery life isn’t too terrible if you stick to normal settings and it does look great. You can even install third party game launchers too like battle net, Amazon, etc. I played wow for a bit on it lol.
@@TheHanStudios very impressive i am more and more convinced to get one myself!
My Steam Deck OLED limited edition arrives today. EXCITED.
Honestly I would rather use an ssd for steam games and deck based stuff and sd cards for roms cheaper and also it separates them much better
Same. 1tb sandisk extreme a2 v30 for emudeck.
@@eternalbeing3339yep plus if you want to buy a new deck you can instantly just slot the sd in and all your games and saves appear instant
I've been saying the same thing👌
Honestly the smaller bezels and slightly larger screen is a great selling point too.
Took me 25 mins of clicking checkout buttons for this to finally be purchased! But I got it.
Which one did you get?
@@TakiUdon 512GB
I noticed that you mislabeled Mariokart wii as mariokart seven at 21:20 😅 but of course, great work as always, I’ve been a subscriber of your channel for quite a while now and I love all of your videos. So informative and awesome to watch. Thank you for all of the work and time you put into these 😊😊😊
Damn, I thought I had everything.
This is a great video, thank you. I just ordered my first Steam Deck and am very excited!
I was waiting for this video 👍😎
0:30 so just pointing out the obvious, you can play any roms (even ones Nintendo online doesn't have, including hacked roms) on the official Nintendo emulators (or unofficial) using a modded switch. Works 100% offline as well, no monthly fee.
Your desk light set up was washing out the color differences between the two somewhat, taking away from how drastic of a difference it reallt is. You can see an example when your light moves off Mario's face on SM64
Outstanding job! Such detailed comparison and info. You rock!
This is perfect, I was able to order an oled limited edition. Hopefully, I'll get it before Christmas.
Looks like a nice refresth honestly. I'm happy with my OG model, but I think anyone looking to get an SD for the first time should opt for the newer model. Either way, Even the OG model is still a fantastic little computer. Ah yes, FFV, one of the first non-emulated games I beat on my unit. (FFV Pixel remaster) I digress. The OLED model is just good news in general. A fancy newer version for those who can afford it, and the previous model will now be SUPER affordable now that everyone wants to get rid of them. Especially used, Just in time for the holidays!
Managed to get the LE OLED 1TB ordered. They are releasing the limited edition in batches it feels like. Sells out and becomes available after a while for the time being.
Yepper, I didn't get one the first go round, checked back about three hours later and they were back. As I write this, they're still available.
You got fooled into paying $30 extra for the same product. You’re the same greedy guy who went out and bought 10 tonnes of toilet paper just because you thought it was limited edition.
@@SuperYtc1 Pretty sure you're projecting.
What happened to the bass? Valve said it had better bass. Are you sure you didn't accidentally flip them around?
Great video, as always dude!!
Battery tests are amazing - Thanks for taking the time.
I'm really impressed with the battery life on the Steam Deck OLED. Seeing that the difference in battery consumption is significant just by using better lithography, would it make sense for them to release another refresh that uses the same APU at 4nm in the future?
did you already get yours or are you just trusting reviews
@@elmalloc It's not available in my country until probably second half next year. Still thinking which one would be better for emulation, Steam Deck OLED or Ayn Odin 2
@@peejae082004depends on what you want to emulate and what your budget is. If all you want is 16bit and DS there is a plethora of devices for 1/3 the price that would probably be a better choice for instance.
they'll probably save that for the Deck 2, they plan to release that in 2-3 years.
1. Was the yuzu battery test on handheld or docked mode?
2. So RetroArch is a no for now? Unless you enjoy switching refresh rate.
3. With steam os 3.5, is disabling SMT still needed for best emulation performance?
1. Handheld.
2. RA seems to be a little crap. I default to 60 as default and make per-game profiles to 30. If a game uses mixed content for FMVs, you have to switch up to 60. I would assume they will try to fix this.
3. It is not necessary like it was before.
I just saved this video in my playlist because of the retro games that I knew after watch this.
Amazing how you know lots of good retro games, I wish it was easier to config Steam Deck to work just like you showed here.
Why obsess over TDP so much?
Is that battery life gain really that much over just leaving the stock settings?
In some situations, yes. You can gain a lot more battery life.
Dude those battery drain test wow, thank you for showing those. How long do you think it takes to get a 50% and 100% charge after its been drained to turning off?
It takes a bit to get going from 0%, but it shoots up to ~60-70% in a little over 40 minutes once it gets north of 10%. The final stretch slows down a lot.
You know how you can look at a game and it just takes you back to a moment in hour childhood? You did that for me with Super R Type.
Core memory unlocked!
So many people talking down the etched glass vs gloss screen but your videos it looks fantastic and deep black still! Helped make my decision on going for the etched glass model!
wtf man i'm sitting here waiting to order my non etched in like 7 minutes and now you got me doubting my choice lmao
@@supafly0345 I'd say if you don't mind the glossy look on your phone then you won't mind it on the deck
@@supafly0345 just put a glass screen protector on the etched glass if you want inky blacks
The cloudy anti glare bugs me as much on handhelds as it does on monitors. I went for the 512 non etched as well. I love it on the OLED switch, and I’m sure I will love it on the Steam Deck.
Honestly, imo it's absolutely fair to strive for the etched glass version, but for me, I have lived my whole life with glossy screens and meanwhile I don't even care about reflections. I have learned to live with it. That's why it's been the 512gb model for me. However, it all boils down to personal preference and what your eyes have become used to
The color difference is probably due to a software parameter problem on the Switch (limited rgb range 16-255 instead of full range 0-255) because otherwise the displays are identical and it shouldn't grey the blacks.
They won't grey blacks in Switch titles, but they do for some of the Switch Online titles. It's a bummer.
@@TakiUdon Probably something like "It's meant to be shown on a limited RGB display, so we limit it for you"
@@luziferius3687No I think it's just Nintendo being dumb like how they screwed the Wii u ones.
@@SuperTort0ise at this point the "error" is repeated so they're doing it on purpose to prevent accurate emulation
@@YounesLayachi Never said it was an "error," said they're stupid and purposefully screwing it up is stupid IMO.
I already own the 512GB previous Steam Deck flagship but no regrets getting the Limited Edition Steam Deck OLED! Can't wait to load a bunch on retro games on it! 😁
Yo same, was considering selling the OG but ima just give to my wife cuz she loves ds roms
weird
You got fooled into paying $30 extra for the same product.
If you want the translucent case and other aesthetic touches, it's an easy premium.@@SuperYtc1
@@SuperYtc1 oled screen and significant battery difference =/= the same
IIRC there's a setting in developer settings that you can switch to the old fps and refresh rate settings, I do hope it is there cause that 30/60 switching is gonna be annoying.
Have you tried Retroarch with HDR (both in system settings and in the Retroarch software) enabled? That is what I use on my OLED TV and it makes games really pop, like they do on my PVM CRT. Curious of it all works as it should on the OLED deck!
I'm curious about this too especially in combination with CRT Scanline filters.
Shouldn't you set up a VPN on your router so that way any device connected to the router will go through the VPN no matter what and then you won't have to worry about how that one application won't go through your VPN?
I don't know how VPNs work but hopefully I'm saying something smart.
That was really informative! Honestly, I don't care about the minor visual differences between the OLED and IPS panels, but the power consumption differences do matter to me. I was quite surprised by how well the OLED performed compared to the IPS.
The difference between an OLED and LCD (especially the lackluster LCD in the OG Deck) are far from minor…
Huge visual difference between even the best IPS and OLED.
And the battery life improvement really comes down to the battery capacity getting upgraded from 40Wh to 50Wh.
The OLED screen actually gobbles up more power, considering the much higher peak brightness and higher refresh rates.
Awesome job on the video! Thanks for all the information, I’m excited to play some retro games on this once mine comes in
2:22 Those deep blacks on that DKC intro is so good.
It's why I made this video. Perfect isolation.
@@TakiUdonBravo!
gotta love my taki doing retro test on the new steam deck.
U got a new sub. Awesome content for the ones still hesitant and worried about battery life.
Amazing video man! You deserve more!
Anyone know the song here? 7:51. I tried Shazam but nothing and a quick google didn’t find anything either.
quick edit:
Watching someone play mission 1 of n64 fox, that song isn't their either so idk how to find it.
It's an adobe stock song. I use it for my outro.
@@TakiUdon awesome thank you, does it have a name?
Very informative vid - thank you!!
im so glad i managed to get my deck ordered in the first 3 mins of launch. i heard alot of people had trouble ordering
Now the ultimate question is the touchscreen, the touchscreen on the original LCD version is trash, what about the touchscreen on the new OLED? Is it more accurate and reliable or is it still choppy, not accurate and horrendous experience as it was on the original LCD steam deck?
Yes the touchscreen has been vastly improved, everyone agree on this.
Polling rate is doubled.
As an early adopter, it’s hard not to feel a little bit cheated by the refresh only one year in. I wish I’d waited for this one.
Closer to 2 years really, doesn't seem too unreasonable.
@@mahoganywolf8843 Agree to disagree, I suppose.
Bro. Trying to order this thing. Calm down with your timing. Give me an hour :-p - Appreciate your review on the screens. It really sealed my decision to get the etched one again.
Got the Limited Edition. Had to have them refund 700.00 in wallet cash back as I used another card in the nonsense the first thirty minutes were! So excited to play all the things!
Dragon Quest VIII looks insane on that screen.
Holy heck, how did you get Skate working so well at 24:47? I tried to get it working well on the base Deck but it was a stuttering mess. Did it take a lot of tweaking? (Pardon the pun)
It didn't, but this is also without NPCs in the level.
Original LCD is now on 25% sale, for price that emulates almost everyghing is insane
i wish if oled was cheaper definetly would get that...
Tremendous video. Thanks for this!
@TakiUdon check your headphone Jack on your OLED Steam Deck - a lot of people are having problems with static humming - it’s widespread
I'm so so so happy and elated that I waited man.. I cannot wait to get my oled steam deck
OMFG i was waiting for someone to make a video like this .. this is the main thing i wanted the OLED emulation from psx with crt filter to yuzu switch ! LETS GOOOOO BABY IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTY 🤌🏽🔥
Is xb360 emulation mentioned somewhere in video as not in the bookmarks?
I just got my shipping notice for my LE version. Fingers crossed there will be another hall effect pair of sticks for this new OLED version.
Hello sir may I know if the OLED is PWM or DC? i know the LCD version has bad flickering issue but not sure if OLDD improves a bit
Had emudeck on my oled for a month now and wow its made my favourite handheld even better.
Great vid man, subscribed! I have the LCD SD but just ordered the OLED SD as well. I have a arcade cabinet I built around the steam deck so the OD deck will stay with it.
Nice video.
Thank you!
Liked and subscribed.
Can you install Steam games on the internal SSD and then run retro emulation games from an SD card only? I’m considering getting a steam deck and I’m wondering exactly how to manage games with both modern and emulated.
I have the 1TB sd card with all my games, but didn’t know about there being a process of migrating from my old to my new until after I sold my old model. What steps should I take to get emulation running on a new steam deck with all of my saved content?
If your saves are on the sd card you'll be fine
Emudeck has the backup tool.
Is this OLED screen DC dimming or PWM low frequency dimming, like the switch OLED screen? Thanks😢😅❤
Will the system adjust for the amount of TDP it needs automatically or is that something you have to do yourself?
By default the system will let games draw as much TDP as they demand, up to 25w. But you can manually cap the TDP if you want.
@@japzone isn't the max TDP 15 W ?
or did you mean total battery draw ?
Which country are you in? I didn't know github was blocked in other countries
China
What’s the problem with just using the SD card from the old LCD deck? I upgraded but don’t won’t to set everything up again
Wait wait, Taki, so does this mean we now don't have to use the Power Tools plugin to reduce the amount of threads to 3 in order to get perfect, full speed GameCube and Wii emulation? I remember that being a problem earlier on, is that not the case anymore?
I didn't need to do that. I only used power tools at the very end when I did the N64 battery life test.
The battery times are insane, especially if you use things like Power tools. Like, by downclocking the memory through power tools I was able to get nearly 10 hours of battery out of a gbc game, having it running at only 4.4 watts. The idea that through the OLED I could end up with like 12 or more hours blows my mind.
does anyone know how he got skate 3 to run so smoothly? My deck is completely unable to do so without heavy stuttering
Do you have powertools installed?
@@TakiUdon hey taki! thanks for answering directly! To answer your question, yes i do. I also have cryoutilitie installed
Yo what game is that at 8:12 looks dope?
I build a really nice 1TB retro gaming SD card for Umbrella Arcades. It’s one of the few Batocera builds available that works on the OLED Steam Deck.
5:30 - whats up with visible lines on OLED model when you look on yellow area?
Camera aliasing
What's a reliable place to get roms?
Having the right ally for the heavy stuff and this for emulation is also on my mind
Was the last system you didnt show supposed to be switch or xbox 360? Great video btw
21:30 any way to remove the wii u pointer on games like battle revolution so it's not in the way ?
Now all I want to see is benchmark results using Moonlight to see decoding times on all available codecs. Ive over heard the ms is as low as 0.5ms... Yes you read that correct.
Would be great if you could go over the best ways to migrate LCD deck to a new OLED deck.
I understand there are multiple ways. Via backup apps, network transfers, swapping the SSD 1 for 1, cloning SSD, etc.
There aren’t very many videos on this that would be at your quality.
For me I have a 512gb deck and I got a 1TB OLED. I think I want to clone my current deck onto the 1TB. But is that the best way? Easiest way?
For you, cloning would be the best bet if you do not want to swap to a lower drive size. You'll need a USB to m.2 adapter, and you can do the cloning process on a PC or on your Deck. That's the fastest way to get off the ground, and it is what I am planning on doing myself (except with a 512GB SSD cloned to a 512GB SSD)
@@TakiUdon I’ve never cloned a drive on Linux, I know on windows you need special steps to clone a smaller drive onto a larger drive to ensure the entire drive is usable.
Is that the case for Steam OS?
Thanks btw!
This video is literally perfect for someone like me who was looking into steam decks recently and appreciates the fact it can play some newer games but really only wanted one for emulation purposes! Also whats that song at 7:55?
It's an adobe stock track. I like it, but it's not really a song. I use it for the outro.
Seems like a fantastic handheld. Would love to hear your thoughts on what is the best solution for an emulation-focused Linux mini-PC. Both hardware and software. Like, would it be best to just drop batocera onto a cheap N100 mini PC, or is there some better solution?
Excited to get this soon. Ended up getting the 1TB LE version since I just really liked that color wave.
I just have an unrelated question: what is the skin you have on your original SD? It looks so cool!
Yeah, nice to see an emulation only vid on the oled SD 👍
Did the battery life tests ran at the default 15 watts?
The NS title was set to 15W TDP in the slider.
This is cool, but are we going to get a deep dive on the Odin 2? I'm interested in premium android emulation and you do the most trustworthy reviews.
Great selection of games for black level comparisons.
Question when switching Steam Decks. Is it easy to copy over all your Emudeck stuff over to the new one? Can I just swap my old microsd and be good to go on the OLED?
It's easy. The tool that they have to manage save files handles the internal save files. You should have the rest on your SD. Pop that into your new Deck and rerun the installer so you can have the titles added as Steam titles.
@@TakiUdon i figured it might be an Emudeck shortcut. Just haven’t seen anyone mentioning it in their videos. Thank you!
I just have a quick question. I have emudeck as well as all of my dumped games on a 1tb SD card. Could I move my SD card to my oled or would I have to manually redo everything?
You will have to rerun the installer and use the export saves tool.
As someone who has the Lenovo Legion Go, I’ve got to say, this also looks amazing. What is 3DS emulation like? I can run Switch roms perfectly but there’s a bit of lagging on the 3DS roms. Weird. It should be the other way round lol.
I have the oled model coming this week , and I'm back and forth in my head if its worth the hassle with emulation,
What's the name of the bleach game at 8:00?
I've seen it before but never got to play it
Great video! But why would you emulate the Game Boy version of DKC instead of the SNES version? XD