I don't honestly think the GL is OP at all. Especially after the 5.1 ammo nerf. It's hard to get off grenades when you're being mobbed by minoris, definitely better against chaos though.
The GL is way OP. I did notice that it only gets back half the grenades instead of all of them, which is a good nerf, but even still, it still out performs everything else the way it is. It's just not as OP as it used to be. It made me pick it back up again because now it requires a little bit of skill to manage your grenades properly and when you're out you can auspex scan and 1 shot headshot kill a majoris to get more. But still having 6-7 grenades every 30 seconds is pretty crazy especially since it not only stuns everything that it hits it also kills majoris with 3 grenades and you can spam them where as other guns you will either overheat and force you to stop shooting or it takes a while to charge the shot and you can't regenerate the ammo as easily. Without the emperors vengeance perk it would be the worst weapon for sure but because of that perk its just way too powerful.
Man I would frickin love a Heavy Bolt Rifle buff. I it deserves it. I don't even use the grenade launcher, but outside of that and the melta, the plasm incinerator is the only really solid pick. Playing HBR now is very fun, but also feels like challenge mode. It just isn't as good as the others. This would give tactical some real options to play around with.
My only gripe with plasma is that you need to select a perk for it which hampers your other 2 loadouts so you must only commit to it to get maximum damage output. If only perks were tied to loadout too.
Yea i agree i hope they implement perk swaps with loadout changes so you can set the relevant perk for the loadout. This is particularly noticable on sniper since each type of gun requires a different perk setup.
Likely two months. Remember, it takes them an entire month to update the game for minimal bug fixes and introducing a cut content map. Right now we're at 5.1, so assuming they keep up the monthly pace then in two months.
Same. I started using it more because I figured the grenade launcher would eventually get reworked. Haven't missed the launcher nor the Melta since switching.
@ I’ve found you’ll have just enough time to get a charger shot off immediately after gun striking a majoris before its next attack. Auspex on parry plus 25% ranged damage buff after gunstrike is literally melting these guys and it’s so much fun.
The stalker did get a small buff. I think they increased damage by 10%. It was back when they buffed all the bolter guns like you mentioned. I also agree plasma incinerator is probably the second best gun in the tactical arsenal after the grenade launcher. The rate of fire one is really good. It has 3 charged shots before it over heats but if you hit all 3 shots it will put a majoris in execute. Also, because it's 3 shots till overheat, it allows you to mix in some melee combos as well. So it makes for some fun gameplay. My favorite combo is parrying a majoris and then gunstrike and then hipfire a plasma shot right into their chest while they are stunned from the gunstrike. With the fast rate of fire version with some of the charging speed perks you can get a charge shot off while they are stunned.
If you like that playstyle, you should try the plasma incinerator with the faster rate of fire. Since it overheats after 3 charged shots it basically requires you to mix in some melee while you wait for it to cooldown. A good combo when its overheated is melee > parry > gunstrike > hipfire charged plasma. It feels great!
I dont think the gl is op at all either. They could make it so you only get a half mag every 30 seconds but at lethal you are fucked and you cant use it anymore if they nerf the damage. If you are only gonna get nerfing the gl then the only weapon yiu can use is melta and plasma incinerator. Which is atlest as powerful as the grenades. You do have to predict enemy movements and be able to hit your targets with the grenade. So I dont ser the problem. They can remove the bug that makes the damage stack after executing an enemy majoris giving +25%dmg and other things that makes it one-shot bosses of course. But outside of that? You are fucked if you dont have any grenades if a massive wave hits you and there are snipers, grenade launcher guards and 2 heads. The whole point with tactical only having auspec that increases damage is so you dont need to run up in the face of the enemy but hold them at a somewhat safe distance just like the heavy class with heavy bolter
All Plasma Rifles are charged shot versions!? I recommend the fast fire rate, it charges much faster and is by far the best option unless you need sustained fire vs a boss or something. Once I got used to the fast fire Plasma I can't stand the other options anymore.
The GL just looks good because the rest is so underwhelming. Oh you want to play with a bolter? Sure it takes 2 magazines to kill something... I do use other weapons because i like the challenge, but i end up just making gunstrikes anyway and forget i had a primary in the first place.
In patch 5.1 they kinda nerfed the GL. Emperor’s vengeance perk only refills a max of 7 grenades instead of a entire “magazine”. So a weak nerf but in their announcement it seemed like they were gonna do the nerfs in baby steps.
used it to get my lethal clears for the helmet. don't really use it anymore since it is a bit too OP even with only 1/2 nades refilled now. 7 nades every 30 secs is still a bit much =
The tactical already is dead. Just like the rest of the game. Volkite released shit and hasn't been made better than plasma and it's not better than Heavy Bolt pistol, so it only sees use on Vanguard at but even then it sucks. The last two maps they released have been cut content from the base game they cut out and implemented later, and this update has made chaos even more annoying to fight.
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I've been using plasma since the beginning of the game.
I don't honestly think the GL is OP at all. Especially after the 5.1 ammo nerf. It's hard to get off grenades when you're being mobbed by minoris, definitely better against chaos though.
Yea
Nah shit is brain dead op and people think they are good when they use it.
The GL is way OP. I did notice that it only gets back half the grenades instead of all of them, which is a good nerf, but even still, it still out performs everything else the way it is.
It's just not as OP as it used to be. It made me pick it back up again because now it requires a little bit of skill to manage your grenades properly and when you're out you can auspex scan and 1 shot headshot kill a majoris to get more. But still having 6-7 grenades every 30 seconds is pretty crazy especially since it not only stuns everything that it hits it also kills majoris with 3 grenades and you can spam them where as other guns you will either overheat and force you to stop shooting or it takes a while to charge the shot and you can't regenerate the ammo as easily. Without the emperors vengeance perk it would be the worst weapon for sure but because of that perk its just way too powerful.
Man I would frickin love a Heavy Bolt Rifle buff. I it deserves it. I don't even use the grenade launcher, but outside of that and the melta, the plasm incinerator is the only really solid pick. Playing HBR now is very fun, but also feels like challenge mode. It just isn't as good as the others. This would give tactical some real options to play around with.
i don't always use the granade laucher but they already nerfed the ammo refil perk to get half
My only gripe with plasma is that you need to select a perk for it which hampers your other 2 loadouts so you must only commit to it to get maximum damage output. If only perks were tied to loadout too.
Yea i agree i hope they implement perk swaps with loadout changes so you can set the relevant perk for the loadout. This is particularly noticable on sniper since each type of gun requires a different perk setup.
Wasn't that planned for patch 7.0? Judging by current pace it will take half a year and another 2-3 months of bug fixing.
Likely two months.
Remember, it takes them an entire month to update the game for minimal bug fixes and introducing a cut content map.
Right now we're at 5.1, so assuming they keep up the monthly pace then in two months.
Heavy Bolt Rifle, FTW!
Plasma incinerator is my favorite weapon in the game
Same. I started using it more because I figured the grenade launcher would eventually get reworked. Haven't missed the launcher nor the Melta since switching.
@ I’ve found you’ll have just enough time to get a charger shot off immediately after gun striking a majoris before its next attack. Auspex on parry plus 25% ranged damage buff after gunstrike is literally melting these guys and it’s so much fun.
The stalker did get a small buff. I think they increased damage by 10%. It was back when they buffed all the bolter guns like you mentioned.
I also agree plasma incinerator is probably the second best gun in the tactical arsenal after the grenade launcher. The rate of fire one is really good. It has 3 charged shots before it over heats but if you hit all 3 shots it will put a majoris in execute. Also, because it's 3 shots till overheat, it allows you to mix in some melee combos as well. So it makes for some fun gameplay.
My favorite combo is parrying a majoris and then gunstrike and then hipfire a plasma shot right into their chest while they are stunned from the gunstrike. With the fast rate of fire version with some of the charging speed perks you can get a charge shot off while they are stunned.
Used it for lethal clears a while ago, havnt really bothered with tactical since so wont miss it at all tbh.
I prefer the heavy bolt or auto bolt to nade launcher anyways. I like getting melee and hipfiring while I parry shit 😂
yes. both seems better choices now, better than the carbine. Only the Stalker rivals them
If you like that playstyle, you should try the plasma incinerator with the faster rate of fire. Since it overheats after 3 charged shots it basically requires you to mix in some melee while you wait for it to cooldown.
A good combo when its overheated is melee > parry > gunstrike > hipfire charged plasma. It feels great!
@@Bigborian92783 it works but I find hipfire with plasma to have abysmal accuracy lol
@feircy yea it can be a bit fickle. But you can also aim and charged shot alternatively. The hipfire just feel good for some reason 😁
I’ve always been enamored by Hellblasters. It might’ve been the both plasma gun and BFG from doom though
I dont think the gl is op at all either. They could make it so you only get a half mag every 30 seconds but at lethal you are fucked and you cant use it anymore if they nerf the damage. If you are only gonna get nerfing the gl then the only weapon yiu can use is melta and plasma incinerator. Which is atlest as powerful as the grenades. You do have to predict enemy movements and be able to hit your targets with the grenade. So I dont ser the problem. They can remove the bug that makes the damage stack after executing an enemy majoris giving +25%dmg and other things that makes it one-shot bosses of course. But outside of that? You are fucked if you dont have any grenades if a massive wave hits you and there are snipers, grenade launcher guards and 2 heads. The whole point with tactical only having auspec that increases damage is so you dont need to run up in the face of the enemy but hold them at a somewhat safe distance just like the heavy class with heavy bolter
How do people keep playing the operations? Isn't it kinda stale after a few weeks of maxing out? Legit question
Why did they add rolling for astartes in space marine 2. It looks so odd tbh.
Love GL and Melta but Stalker is the connoisseur’s choice for damage and difficulty.
The heavy bolt seems better after last patch
All Plasma Rifles are charged shot versions!? I recommend the fast fire rate, it charges much faster and is by far the best option unless you need sustained fire vs a boss or something. Once I got used to the fast fire Plasma I can't stand the other options anymore.
The GL just looks good because the rest is so underwhelming. Oh you want to play with a bolter? Sure it takes 2 magazines to kill something...
I do use other weapons because i like the challenge, but i end up just making gunstrikes anyway and forget i had a primary in the first place.
In patch 5.1 they kinda nerfed the GL. Emperor’s vengeance perk only refills a max of 7 grenades instead of a entire “magazine”. So a weak nerf but in their announcement it seemed like they were gonna do the nerfs in baby steps.
used it to get my lethal clears for the helmet. don't really use it anymore since it is a bit too OP even with only 1/2 nades refilled now. 7 nades every 30 secs is still a bit much
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Stalker, Plasma and HBR are great
Im still gonna use the GL 😊
I don't use this thing anyway, so I don't care. Only better if there would be less stunlocking grenade spammers, assaults will breath freely.
Assault sucks.
@@clevergoblin1714 tell this to his block hammer that deals as much damage as heavy with plasma.
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why would anyone play a tactical with melta... .duh
So no 1 will be using this gun soon after the nurf it and it was one of the only good bolter guns shame
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Bro… plasma is boring AF. I barely play tactical now. If they nerf GL tactical is a dead class
All other guns under tactical are viable if you are good
You mean a good balanced class. Killing a carnixflex in lethal in 2 seconds is not even funny.
@@doodguy12I think that’s the problem here
@@leevantraxyt7286 Nah, it was pretty funny at first. It got old really quick.
The tactical already is dead. Just like the rest of the game.
Volkite released shit and hasn't been made better than plasma and it's not better than Heavy Bolt pistol, so it only sees use on Vanguard at but even then it sucks.
The last two maps they released have been cut content from the base game they cut out and implemented later, and this update has made chaos even more annoying to fight.
I’ve always been enamored by Hellblasters. It might’ve been the both plasma gun and BFG from doom though