I was at a friends ranch in Nevada once upon a time when a very famous aviator took a Lear 24 belonging to a friend out for a flight; down the runway at 400kts and over the top of a loop at 14,500 ‘, with rolls on the way up and down. And that was just part of the show; he landed, got out and said, “that little bird is one fun son of a bitch”😀
Interesting video. It looked like the co-pilot was not rated on the aircraft and I fairly certain the Lear was never single pilot certified. Does give you a good idea of just how "squeezy" they are as well.
I flew this pocket rocket and as well as the Lear 23… OMG..FL 410 in 15 min. We hit 600kts GS at the initial climb to 10,000 feet. Hey that thing was made in 1964….
Because of the performance and speed of this plane, two pilots insure that things will get done as needed. It is very easy to "get behind" an airplane of this type. I cannot imagine one pilot reading a pre-land checklist in heavy IFR on approach to minimums while communicating with ATC, all while flying the airplane....
@Delta1039, "out of Million Air with the numbers". Million Air is the FBO at Van Nuys that we were coming out of and the numbers part means that he listened to ATIS and has the current weather info.
@md80x15, a buddy of mine was back there in the seat at the rear right of the plane but he was just too disturbing looking to include in the shot so I used an edit right when the camera got to him. lol
@Delta1039, it's my understanding that if you can fly these, you could pretty much fly anything fixed wing! These were not considered easy aircraft to fly, you have to be really good pilot to stay ahead of a plane like this. It's basically a rocket with a tiny wing but through time Learjets have become pilot friendly, easy to fly machines. These Lears are sadly not common in the US anymore, I think that the noise and spare engines/parts availability has become a huge issue for them.
These are easy to fly. Flight controls in total harmony. It's overpowered. Brake release to 41000 feet in 8 minutes. It takes a little time to get used to having your hair on fire, but when you get the hang of it, it is fenomenal. After flying one of these for some time you get the "forever ability" to stay ahead of your aircraft. I had 700 hrs and typewriting on a 23 before becoming an airline pilot MD80's- B737's ++. I miss old N-7FJ from mid 80's. It was a rocket!!
WoW!! That was awesome!! I almost needed an airsick bag but it was still fun. Did it really only take you 9 minutes and 42 seconds to get to Vegas???? lol o_O Thanks for the upload.
I just watched the NG Megafactory vid on Learjet which showed the test pilot certifying a newly built Lear for service. As part of the ride, he did a stall test. Does anyone know why they do this test and when exactly did they start? Lears ( the old ones anyway ) were wickedly slippery and had little dynamic stability and I don't recall ever hearing of a "stall test". Any info is greatly appreciated.
The biggest issue for them is their noise and fuel consumption. The CJ610s burn a ton of gas compared to say, the Lear 35's TFE731s. And having flown both the 25 and the 60, I can say that they have become a little easier to fly, especially minus the tip tanks, but they still most definitely NOT a Citation haha.
What would be the name of the instrument that the pilot turns on at around 1:55? It seems to make a sweeping sound and has a green screen. Looks like some sort of radar to me but i could be wrong
seoceancrosser the control forces are pretty high in these planes in certain situations and the pilot can get oversaturated with tasks. The FO is there to take up slack and is highly crucial in an inflight emergency
To answer your question, they are there to get the aircraft on the ground without injury to passengers or aircraft should the captain become incapacitated! Which they, probably, could do. You have a VALID point! ALL of the Learjet First Officers I have flown with, once they were proficient, were, quickly, grabbed up by, either, corporate flight departments, or airlines. My job, as Captain, most times, was to be able to fly single pilot, while training the First Officer to do their duties. NOT their fault! Most times, in the civilian world, twin piston engine pilots need to get "jet aircraft experience to further their careers, either through commuter airlines or corporate flight experience. Initially, FO's are struggling to keep up with the high paced flight and communication environment.The good ones learn quickly! THEN, they are gone.
As far as I could see. The Capt never even let the copilot touch the controls or anything on the panel. Not even use the radio. I got the feeling the Capt has some what of an ego.
Agreed. The captain was taxiing the airplane, talking on the radios, setting the flaps, all before the copilot even had a chance to pull out the checklist. Very unprofessional. -Former Learjet 24/25 captain myself, and current wide body captain.
Looks more like an OCD captain...who also thinks his S@#* don't stink. He displayed no patience with his 1st officer, and just from what I observed he also must be an arrogant prick. I'm just glad the guys I fly with are all ones who get along.
I was told by Connie Kalita who owns serial #55 (originally) a single pilot model but thanks to the FAA recalled to accept dual controls for two pilots.
I was at a friends ranch in Nevada once upon a time when a very famous aviator took a Lear 24 belonging to a friend out for a flight; down the runway at 400kts and over the top of a loop at 14,500 ‘, with rolls on the way up and down. And that was just part of the show; he landed, got out and said, “that little bird is one fun son of a bitch”😀
Noisy, old, thirsty... but it´s the most beautiful exec jet, ever!!
Better than the Falcon 8x?
I agree. Just a beautiful design!!!
@@scottalbers2518 yup...
this one is full of steam gauges, how did they even navigate? Dead reckoning?
We did a Radar Measuring Flight with this Learjet today and when you land, you are thinking that you are in a Starfighter but its totally awesome!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. God Bless Bill Lear for his creation of the LearJet.
Interesting video. It looked like the co-pilot was not rated on the aircraft and I fairly certain the Lear was never single pilot certified. Does give you a good idea of just how "squeezy" they are as well.
Old school aircraft that takes real skill to fly.
I flew this pocket rocket and as well as the Lear 23… OMG..FL 410 in 15 min. We hit 600kts GS at the initial climb to 10,000 feet. Hey that thing was made in 1964….
my airplane my radio my controls be a joy to fly with that guy!
Because of the performance and speed of this plane, two pilots insure that things will get done as needed. It is very easy to "get behind" an airplane of this type. I cannot imagine one pilot reading a pre-land checklist in heavy IFR on approach to minimums while communicating with ATC, all while flying the airplane....
correct, it's impossible. two pilots mandatory, especially with steam gauges in traffic conditions
@Delta1039, "out of Million Air with the numbers". Million Air is the FBO at Van Nuys that we were coming out of and the numbers part means that he listened to ATIS and has the current weather info.
I understand that after two hours in the air, you better be near an airport with the Lear 23/24's
The two most important gauges in the 20 series Lears were the airspeed indicator and the fuel gauge. Great aircraft.
Uauu,this is a original Learjet 24A version?That's amazing!!!
smallest cockpit ever. Lear butt inevitable. can't even feel your legs
Vintage bizjet goodness. Well done!
@ejuoi, I guess it was kind of a solo flight, huh? :)
@md80x15, a buddy of mine was back there in the seat at the rear right of the plane but he was just too disturbing looking to include in the shot so I used an edit right when the camera got to him. lol
Did the copilot have any duties at all? Bad angle, but it looked like the captain even put the gear up on takeoff..
i like this video alot, makes me wanna fly the learjets.
Classic man!! Love it!!
Love that thing, fly it in FSX all the time ;)
@Delta1039, it's my understanding that if you can fly these, you could pretty much fly anything fixed wing! These were not considered easy aircraft to fly, you have to be really good pilot to stay ahead of a plane like this. It's basically a rocket with a tiny wing but through time Learjets have become pilot friendly, easy to fly machines. These Lears are sadly not common in the US anymore, I think that the noise and spare engines/parts availability has become a huge issue for them.
These are easy to fly. Flight controls in total harmony. It's overpowered. Brake release to 41000 feet in 8 minutes. It takes a little time to get used to having your hair on fire, but when you get the hang of it, it is fenomenal. After flying one of these for some time you get the "forever ability" to stay ahead of your aircraft. I had 700 hrs and typewriting on a 23 before becoming an airline pilot MD80's- B737's ++. I miss old N-7FJ from mid 80's. It was a rocket!!
Fun 2 hrs of flite before expensive refuel. That turbo jet whine....
I own 24-117. Sadly this one in the vidoe is parted out at White Industries.
Great filming Ryan! Does this plane have an autopilot?
this was filmed the year i was born
@Delta1039, I was just recording.
WoW!! That was awesome!! I almost needed an airsick bag but it was still fun. Did it really only take you 9 minutes and 42 seconds to get to Vegas???? lol o_O
Thanks for the upload.
There's no too much shoulder space!
I just watched the NG Megafactory vid on Learjet which showed the test pilot certifying a newly built Lear for service. As part of the ride, he did a stall test. Does anyone know why they do this test and when exactly did they start? Lears ( the old ones anyway ) were wickedly slippery and had little dynamic stability and I don't recall ever hearing of a "stall test".
Any info is greatly appreciated.
it would be dangerous, that's for sure. they were hazardous without doing unstable things.
Desculpe, mas esse é um Lear 21.
Maravilhoso ☆
There is no such thing as a Lear 21, but thanks for the comment.
Loud, fast, and hard to fly! Doubt many places would tolerate the noise these days.
The biggest issue for them is their noise and fuel consumption. The CJ610s burn a ton of gas compared to say, the Lear 35's TFE731s. And having flown both the 25 and the 60, I can say that they have become a little easier to fly, especially minus the tip tanks, but they still most definitely NOT a Citation haha.
So true. One of the few planes that you can run out of fuel waiting for a clearance.
First hour is 300 miles
Gallons not miles
I hope you get a big pack of earplugs with this plane ;)
Bose headset works fine lol
1:00 the most painful part of lear 24 ownership
That is so damn true!!!
I worked there KVNY NW
Like it so much.....
thats pretty funny, i was born 2 years before this flight took place, haha
what did they say for taxi clearnace? something about numbers
@Delta1039, IFR
alright, nice, so were you one of the pilots? or were u just the guy recording the flt.?
i'm curious of the flight quality of these planes. is it smooth, or can you feel every bit of turbulance? never been in one of these.
@fallguy747 Yeah, almost!
What would be the name of the instrument that the pilot turns on at around 1:55? It seems to make a sweeping sound and has a green screen. Looks like some sort of radar to me but i could be wrong
G ps
Sadly it has been de-registered.
Is that Mean Gene Okerlund in the left seat
Only real pilots know
what did they say for taxi clearnace?
Looks like the CA is flying the plane, talking on the radio and slinging the gear. What does the FO do besides be present to keep the flight legal?
seoceancrosser the control forces are pretty high in these planes in certain situations and the pilot can get oversaturated with tasks. The FO is there to take up slack and is highly crucial in an inflight emergency
To answer your question, they are there to get the aircraft on the ground without injury to passengers or aircraft should the captain become incapacitated! Which they, probably, could do. You have a VALID point! ALL of the Learjet First Officers I have flown with, once they were proficient, were, quickly, grabbed up by, either, corporate flight departments, or airlines. My job, as Captain, most times, was to be able to fly single pilot, while training the First Officer to do their duties. NOT their fault! Most times, in the civilian world, twin piston engine pilots need to get "jet aircraft experience to further their careers, either through commuter airlines or corporate flight experience. Initially, FO's are struggling to keep up with the high paced flight and communication environment.The good ones learn quickly! THEN, they are gone.
I got the checklist right here............ ((pats inner thigh))
@RyanBomar alright thanx, cool
Are 2 pilots required to fly this plane? If so, why do you need two pilots rather than one?
Yes... two are required.
alrighty, hey was this video a VFR flight?
As far as I could see. The Capt never even let the copilot touch the controls or anything on the panel.
Not even use the radio.
I got the feeling the Capt has some what of an ego.
Agreed
Agreed. The captain was taxiing the airplane, talking on the radios, setting the flaps, all before the copilot even had a chance to pull out the checklist. Very unprofessional. -Former Learjet 24/25 captain myself, and current wide body captain.
@@FayenceSoaring
Thank you.
@@FayenceSoaringthe nutz on the job.
Too Las Vegas
looks like the cockpit of Apollo 7.
Looks more like an OCD captain...who also thinks his S@#* don't stink. He displayed no patience with his 1st officer, and just from what I observed he also must be an arrogant prick. I'm just glad the guys I fly with are all ones who get along.
I was told by Connie Kalita who owns serial #55 (originally) a single pilot model but thanks to the FAA recalled to accept dual controls for two pilots.
@@darcyray2960 There was never a single pilot Learjet.
No paying passengers what a waste of gas.
Txt 1 2 no one
This captain is quite weird……
Siempre quise tener un lear jet que puede costar uno asi seran 50 mil dolares