Spool HI-SPEED Bearing Casting Test (Using KastKing KastPro Braid - 2018)
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- I was VERY excited to FINALLY get the Spool HI-Speed bearings out for some casting tests. I tested the stock bearings v.s. degreased stock bearings v.s. Spool HI-Speed bearings. I pulled out the old 200’ measuring tape and set it up at a local lake. I got quite a few looks by those passing by. However, it was TOTALLY worth it! I was VERY surprised by some of the results. I’ll discuss my thoughts at the end of the video so be sure to watch through the video until the end.
I had a lot of fun doing this and would LOVE to hear what you think. I’m contemplating doing some tests with lighter baits, different reels compared to the Speed Demon, etc.
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In market testing there is a factor of expectation which is why they do blind testing. Best to get a buddy of yours to do the casting without letting him know which bearings are being used. Idealy he would not have your knowledge of the difference in sounds they make . No doubt you may have every intention of being non bios in your casting effort but that expectation of results makes a difference. We did such a test with golf club drivers with test subjects swinging $50 vs.$500 golf clubs. Groups had much different results when they knew brand and retail price before the test vs. when the logos were covered and they thought the were of similar value .... Still very appreciative of your efforts and informative videos
Thanks for watching man. I understand the placebo effect and altered results. However, all I wanted to do was a test to show how they performed. It was pretty fun, may have to do some more like this. Any recommendations?
I use Swedish SKF extra tolerance berings in some reels and there is a bit of difference in distance and how they are made is basically less balls and more free play and I'm use a silicone type oil. But backside is you must clean them every time because they are opend so water dirt get easy in the berings. I did a test whit old VS new that is a big difference!
I was test in my old Ambassadeur 6000 from 1972 the old VS new my difference was average 10ft longer whit the old stock VS new. I did use a 1 OZ weight for the test. Best regards Bjorn from Sweden 🇸🇪
As a vert skateboarder RocknRons Rockets ceramic bearings are indispensable. His lubricant is the bomb too. I pretty much knew what the results were gonna be after your description of what you were gonna do. Good job, fun stuff, fun channel. As a recent subscriber I'm very much enjoying digging through your backlog.
Ohh yea! I would definitely imagine it would. It was a really fun test. Going to be doing some more!
And thank you for watching man!
Loved the way you did your real live test, your energy and your positivity thru your videos is awesome!
Book Rielly thanks man, appreciate you watching! Too much negativity in the world, I try to steer clear of it.
Here's what I don't get about after market bearings...
You have a tension knob and a breaking system to SLOW down the spool to reduce backlashes.
We tune it to a perfect speed to allow us to cast baits the optimal distance without backlashes.
So why buy bearings to increase the spool speed if you are just going to slow the spool down again with the brakes and etc...
As long as the original bearings aren't complete crap/eroded, shouldnt it not make a difference? Idk I'm just confused and rambling now lol
I mean you obviously got results from them, but I'm still skeptical. There's so many different factors that can effect distance... Idk... Either way, thanks for this video and confusing me for the rest of the day 🤣
Don’t overthink it my man, you’ll drive yourself crazy. 🤪🍻
A: When you’re already using great components, upgrading to the best is going to be very marginal.
B: The new bearings will not only make the spool spin longer, they will also allow the breaking to be equally more effective. You should be able to use the exact same settings as before, everything will just perform smoother with less effort and less friction.
Tight lines.
HawkeyeBassin I hear ya brother. I agreed completely before I tested. What I noticed was the end of the cast. I keep spool tension pretty loose. If you use brakes and keep those tighter, they aren't worth changing. But if you are comfortable with thumb control I feel like that's where you can find benefits. They felt easier to cast so I think they could benefit with weightless baits and pitching. Not for distance but ease. Thanks for watching my man!
curtboroff nice reply. I appreciate it ! Benefits me too.
Mata Kail you're welcome man!
I de-greased the bearings in my reel and added a very thin lube to them. It seemed to make a small difference. I’ll be picking up some aftermarket bearings next. Thanks for the video.
Justin Parker you're welcome man, I appreciate you watching!
I think with a little time and tunning you could increase 15 yards. That's a lot in the casting world. But if you are using a chuck and wind lure making your normal casts with less effort is money. I'm glad you did this video cause I was a little skeptical if it was actually worth it. Thanks brother. Another great vid
Thanks man. Yea, I may do that test next for max distance potential. It does cast easier with less power. I think these could be good for weightless baits and pitching. Less effort! Thanks for watching brother.
Great video I have to say I'm very new to bait casting and I was probably the best backlash-er in New England, but your video have helped me tremendously!!! Ty DEBO keep it going
Rob West hahah you're welcome my friend, appreciate you watching!
You're supposed to cast into the water buddy 😂! Awesome video I'm thinking about getting me some boca bearings for my reels!
Hahah yea, it was slow and I couldn't find fish so I looked EVERYWHERE. Thanks for watching man!
Yes, more please? And that was awesome to watch! I got to watch some consistently good casts one after the other. Thanks Debo!
You can't tell anything about a cating 4ees b3arings until the reel is broken in.
Knowing how bearings work, you need oil and grease to keep them cooled down it would be interesting to see you doing a test again with the stock bearings and the high-speed ones with one of those laser thermometers to see how hot they get. Because in these reels with all these little plastic parts them getting hot can fatigue and possibly warp them, which will end up wearing out your real quicker. Awesome video though.
Bro. This channel is fire! Just found it today, and have watched probably 10 vids. Keep it up!
Haha heck yea brother 👊👊👊 sound like you're becoming a #verifiedfeeshinfriend
Great video. I have been trying to decide if I wanted to upgrade to Speed Spool bearings but seeing your findings tells me that it to me it's worth it because I want that extra 2 to 3 ft let alone 15 ft. Thanks for doing this video
DYTangler you're welcome my friend. Yea they felt easier to cast and there was a distance increase. If you have the money they are pretty cool. I want to do more tests.
Well, I enjoyed watching you make all those casts. All that walking made me tired tho. Being able to make repetitive comparable quality casts has to be part of this analysis. How many of us can make 21 casts as equal as yours looked to be. Just sayin'...😲
Thanks for watching man! Even mine had a lot of variance. It's hard to do! It was a fun test, definitely want to do more!
Hey Debo,just a quick question. Is this Speed Demon bearing the same size as in the Speed Demon Elite? Coz i've got the Elite and wanted to change the bearing but just couldn't get the actual size diameter of the bearings used in my Elite nor any info anywhere. If u could give me the exact specification would be awesome! Thanks Debo.. :)
Great test video man! Those spool speed bearings are sweet.
NC Angling thank you my man. It was fun to do some nerdy testing!
Thanks for this video , wisdom and links to the bearings!!! Added a bookmark!!
2:21 Gave the like just for the amount of walking you did in this video
I enjoyed the video. But if I would do anything different I would of laid the rod down rod tip on the very beginning of the tape measurer after each cast and then pulled the line over to the tape measurer and then taught. That way you are getting the actual distance traveled each time and not losing some distance because of how offset the angle is to the tape measurer. It is no coincidence that the closer to the tape it is the further it measured. Other than that very insightful.
How do you know which high speed bearings fit your reel baitcaster or all the bearings the same no matter what manufacturer you have
Excellent test. Going for speed bearings on my Abu Black Max.
I'd be interested to see a similar test but with different line types/brands on similar reels/rods. Keep the vids comin Debo!
bearings in a high end reel are going to be kick arse standard, something to think about before dropping cash on replacement bearings
This is very true. I know a lot of the high end shimano reels come with those. I don't have any really expensive reels like that though lol.
I desperately want you to answer my questions. I bought Spartacus Plus Reel. I needed an extra spool, so I paid 12 dollars each and bought total 4 spools. But when I received the product, I was disappointed. Only one was a spool with centrifugal technology, and the other was a simple spool without centrifugal technology. So I asked the castkinging seller. But they said, "The 12 dollar spool doesn't have centrifugal technology." "You have to pay more for spools with centrifugal technology."
is it right? really?
The high speed bearings are only 21$ shipped and you put some reel snot in there, o mama! IMO its worth it if you care about getting long casts.
Yea, I definitely want to do some more testing on these. I think there will be a difference with lighter lures and reel that use all magnetic s centrifugal brakes. Thanks for watching man!
most their bearing are over $50
You have done a great job of testing these bearings.
Wayn Jul thanks my friend, appreciate you watching!
How tight or loose is tension knob? Everybody's different....Where is the number dial set for spool ? Good bearings do work though. Turn everything loose thumb control.
I always set my spool tension so there is a tiny bit of play. Thanks for watching!
I have some reel butter lube. Is it better to use the spool speed bearings un lubed or lubed.
Nice video thanks!
I have done similar tests and I've found.that I'm the limiting factor on cast distance.
My favorite baitcaster for distance is also my cheapest. It's a Daiwa Laguna. Believe it or not I can sling a 3/8 oz plug far enough that I can count.how many turns of line are left on the spool.
Incidentally I'm lazy so instead of measuring the distance and walking every cast I just count.how many cranks to reel in after the cast.
Cheers!
Thanks for watching man! Yea, I want to do more tests with lighter lures when the weather warms up.
Bro let the beard grow lol darn good video. I just want to thank you for all your hard work. It has helped me in choosing bait casters.
Awesome, glad my videos have helped you. Have an awesome week brother!
Embrace the inner nerd. Learn from other nerds. 🤓🍻
Great vid Debo. I don’t know how you could get any more scientific and still be practical. I have a career that revolves around bearings(industrial maintenance, pun intended) and I’ve been considering these for a while. Finally some raw data.👍🏻
Thank you sir.
curtboroff thanks man, I'm glad it helped. It was fun, I'll be doing more tests!
123 feet is 36.9 meter normal bearings / speedbearings 144 feet is 43.2 meter, the differens 21 feet is 6.6 meter my bedroom size.
Really no big differens because the wind and cast ( no robot ) the adjusting can mean differens too in lenght and cast outcome.
Hopend for more feet or meters 1/4 of the cast lenght
Most people say " Buy a good reel
I was surprised by the difference. I think it could be more with a weightless stick bait too. Thanks for watching man and have a good weekend!
im just now seeing this video. thanks for posting it. I ordered 2 kastking assassins yesterday and full tune spool hi speed bearing sets for them. good reviews and I figure if the reel were "cheap", it would be the bearings to go first. with the bearing set being $26 a set, that and the price of the reel is still cheaper than my curado. which also needs bearings replaced... nice video dude!!
Nice video. I have to admit that I expect more difference in the distance. How ever, it would be nice to see the difference between the berings in short casting distances, like when fliping and pitching fishing technicks with light lures. Anyway, the video was nice. Keep it that way.👍
Appreciate that man. I can tell you that casting feels easier. I also think there would be differences with different types of reels (magnetic brakes vs. Centrifugal) I also think lighter baits would really benefit from these. I need to do more tests!
Really wish you included the smoothness on retrieve and cast for all three bearings as well. I would assume the high speed bearing felt smoother as well??? Sorry I know I am Very late to this video but I am looking at a full new bearing kit for my reels which runs 50$ and would like to know if I should just deshields my stock ones or upgrade
So I just bought two boca abec 7 orange seal ceramic bearings, and now I'm wondering if they were worth the $35 bucks. 10 to 15 feet isn't a huge difference, but I'm using a different type of reel. I'm a bank fisherman. I go after blue catfish. Hopefully my Ambassadeur will cast a little bit further than ten extra feet
Does the seal on the bearing effect anything should i put it on or nj o
If you're fishing saltwater, yes. Otherwise, no you don't need to put it on. Thanks for watching man!
Where you by these high speed barring from
For practice use a 3/8 sinker on a swivel snap dayglow painted. Do not in grass with Hitch hikers(thorny spikes) as they can make a mess of Braid. Nice casting👍
main key is the braking system, not bearing
Definitely interesting! Can you maybe take a standard shimano slx or also interesting an dc to to all possible tunings for more distance and lighter weights lighter spool and so on what you can make out of it with a full on tuning would be interesting I think.
How do you like that reel?
I started with a basic abu garcia baitcaster combo and gear ratio was around 6.3:1 . I use alot of jerk baits,crank baits , senko worms etc. I like the distance your getting on that. I found a new reel like yours for 89$ .
I want to up my game to better gear.
Wish i could aim that well! Nice work
Where you these high speed barrings
Good test Macho Man!!!
Levi Palmer ayyeee! Thanks for the support cos! Ohhh yeeeaaaahhhhh!
What type rod you were using ?
Did you ever try a micro eye rod ?
Just curious ! Might try some on one Black Max 2, and leave the other Max 2 stock ! What oil do you recommend ? I use 3 n 1 oil, maybe I'm wrong on the oil !!
Yeah I know "BLACK MAX 2 !!" Hey, they were given to me so can't argue with that !!
It was just a regular MH fast action rod. I use an all purpose reel oil. On the bearings I use the high speed oil from Spool Speed.
Cool I might change my bearings after I use them for a little while.
I know my future is fine-tuning my reels...Don't know if Speed Spool has bearing or my reels...(1) Bass pro (1)Bass Pro Johnny Morris (don't judge me ☺) I see tuning with Hi-Speed, for me, Epic EPIC backlash. I'm already a Master Birds Nest Angler...Thank Debo...
Great video , yeah next time bright color lures 😂.
I would love to get these for my speed demon , but I’m still not close to controlling my cast yet , so defeats the purpose of bombing it out there .
Maybe some day 😁, right now the 120’ is plenty for me .
How about will these affect the speed or line per inch per turn ?
Reel Fishing yea, dont worry about these yet, stick to the basics. Thanks for watching man!
Are you going to keep the high speed bearings in? I'm curious about their durability. Great video!
Eddie Rose oh yea, I'm keeping them in there. Until the next time to test lol.
I love every videos of urs.. I am thinking of upgrading my first model speed demon with full ceramic bearing but was confused with the bearing size. Help me!!!
The curado dc can go 235ft without high speed bearings
Lol
Thanks man
Thanks for watching man!
3/8's lure taint bad , if ya used a rod with mod action , which ya might have , add another five yds or so onto your figures , IMO . Keep up with your fantastic vids as always I enjoy them and that's everybody's option When ever I dig into something like this I always , I mean always , a part comes flying off and Inveritably a grimlin comes along and hands it off to a Sasquatch and he hides the part in someplace never ever to found by me again but I get the old millstone ( wife ) to find da part so I tells myself never do this again then winter comes along and I'm right back at it again , tear'em down cause I'm bored to death , yep I'm rambling again , my POINT is if ya don't know what your doing leave stuff alone
Hahaha thanks man! Yea a longer rod, lighter line, and more moderate action would all add to distance. I really just wanted to grab a common combo and see how all the bearings compared. Appreciate the support my man!
I will concur with you DEBO
Used to throw weights in a field to over 123m
I’d like to do a complete tear down of one of my reels and clean and lube the bearings and go against a reel with these bearings in them. I bet i could get the same results if not better. Plenty of bearing oils that will give them a good jump in speed and rotational duration.
120 some feet, thats about 40 yards. Ok for bass fishing, freshwater, and tossing baits.
It will never make it on the beach in the surf but that's where you go to 10 to 14 ft rods, round multiplier reels without level winds, and 3 to 8 oz weights.
The 10 to 15 feet advantage on this test becomes the difference between 100 yards and 180 yards with the ceramic bearings if your thumb can get the proper education.
Btw, don't try it with a bare thumb.
Wear a leather glove unless you want to lose a couple layers of skin
Yea, I don't have any rods that long. Hahah thanks for watching man.
How bout an oiled stock bearing? See if oiling vs greasing is better.
A THIN layer of oil will definitely allow stock bearings to spin more freely! However, you have to regularly reapply oil. You don't really need to worry about that with greased bearings unless they get dirty or some sort of foreign debris inside.
Steel bearings shouldn't be greased, only oiled and with oils specifically formulated for reel distance casting steel bearings (Rocket Lube, Hot Sauce, TS-321, etc). However, the fastest bearings will be no-lube ceramic.
Was there any partner shop between you and the bearing company
Are these those bearings that I see all over Instagram of a guy always getting spoold
Juan Castillo hahah yea, these are the bearings!
DEBO'S Fishing thanks for getting back to me and doing this video I was wondering about them great vid
Juan Castillo you're welcome man, appreciate you watching!
Wish I could find these for my Okuma Nemesis. 15yrs old(or close to it).
That would be sweet. I want to try and get some for my old shimano bantam!
You guys should get the sizes off of it and see if maybe boca or acer has em too
Add up all the footage you walked... Haha
Felt like 20 miles hahah. Thanks for watching man.
Maybe even farther with kastking Maxthin8 lines ??
Reel Fishing hmm, that would be interesting to try!
If you didn’t adjust your reel that could’ve led to testing inaccuracy. Part of spool speed bearings is easier start up so you can loosen your reel 🤷🏻♂️
Chicken Wing they felt easier with no changes, especially at the end. I wanted to stress this is not max distance, simply keeping settings the same. I know what you're saying and think I'll have to try that next for max potential. Thanks for watching man!
DEBO'S Fishing you make good content, so it’s fun to watch. And my comment came from what I would’ve done, full send.
Chicken Wing thanks man, I really appreciate that! I like your suggestion, I'll have to try a max distance comparison!
DEBO'S Fishing that might also show how easily the bearings backlash
Chicken Wing that's a good test!
Destroy your reel as in take 5 minutes of your time to cut all of the line off and put new on?
Great bearings don’t even have to put my finger on the spool
Nice super
Sure better bearings help. What bothers me about this after market company is how shady he is on TikTok lying about his casts that spoil the reel. “Weightless senko” but doesn’t mention the weights above the plastic. Same with hos over her videos casting with heady lead or lead jigs.
I've watched a few test videos of these things and seen results on both ends of the spectrum. The last one I watched in example indicated barely any difference at all. They would cast and measure with a meter wheel in that one. I'm not convinced enough to try them.
I'm sure line, lure, rod, and cast consistency have a lot to do with it. I want to do a light lure test, I think they could help a lot there. Thanks for watching man!
I like the test most of us are not pro's .
GreenHouse Predartors I definitely am not lol! Thanks for watching!
try full ceramic.
He also uses 10 or 12 pound fluro. You'll never get the distance from braid as you would from fluro. These actually do work. I use them in my Lews Tournament MB reels.
Yea, I think they do increase distance. I was going for max distance, just wanted to test with all the same settings. Thanks for watching man!
@@DEBOSFishing Try putting 10 pound test on there and see the distance you get outta it! Itll be impressive! Enjoyed the vid!
@@justinhall8318 thanks for watching! Yea, I'd like to find a huge Warehouse to do casting distance tests this winter 🤔
You should have just cast as far as possible without realising it u were aiming at the dam spot every time because ur expecting it
Mr DEBO please sent to me the cheap casting reel i really want that reel please i hope i can get that reel from you mr DEBO if you want to send to me please reply my comment ok
the bearing are about the same cost as the reel new.. lmfao
you sponsored by kastking?
No I'm not. I don't have any sponsors at this time. Thanks for watching man.
Good vids, I was just wondering you use kastking alot and I have been thinking of getting a speed demon reel.
@@Ben-bd8yf I used to be part of their team. What are you going to use it for?
Cheap Chinese bearings, you can get those for a dollar a piece off of aliexpress.