+EFLander I once read somewhere that he also broke a cymbal during the audition from playing so hard, but have no idea if that's true... In any case Proscriptor's style is way more progressive and his artistic leanings tend to be far more into the occult and mythological stuff when he's writing songs, so I don't think he'd ever really fit in with Slayer perfectly. If they had done just one album, however, it would have been interesting to hear. IMO Givens is like the extreme metal version of Phil Collins... :P
boobengarden666 If you mean Proscriptor, I just saw one where he actually appeared to be fairly human and some hot girl was asking him questions about his work and he made a fair attempt at answering some questions regarding the various spellings/titles of his albums and trying to describe the differences between Sumerian/Babylonian/Mesopotamian whatever etc. myths and why he was into what he was into... etc... it's all ridiculously esoteric but he's still a great artist. Probably has done wayyyyyy more drugs than me....
boobengarden666 Ya, I saw that old video with him in the coat and holding a beer and talking all kinds of craziness. I really think he was incredibly high and studying way too much esoteric and occult stuff, thinking he was super-cool for knowing all this ridiculously obscure stuff about black magic and mythology. At least he's made some killer good music, even if the audience for it is very niche.
@@Elitetiger27 you definetly dont get how drumming works then lol, the drummers make the tempo no martter how fast or slow the riff is, but even so the drummer must be aware of the bpm. Proscriptor was on the tempo and he nailed it, better yet he made the guitarist break a sweat by speeding up for sure, cus he was playing like he was bored to death.
@@Elitetiger27 imagine you have no fucking clue who absu or proscriptor is and probably only know big metal bands. Slayer hasn't written anything good in years. I agree he was playing too fast, probably knew he wasn't getting gig and was just playing on pure energy jamming with some of his heroes.
Judging from his Slayer-clips Proscriptor should've gotten the job(I've seen the other auditions) IMO. There must've been some other reason than "just" the playing, which i definitely would get, gotta have the chemistry too. But musically he nailed this, made it look like child's play playing Lombardo-stuff(not quite the Lombardo groove here, but who else has that, let's be honest..and, this is under huge pressure, keep in mind). An auditioning for a big band(one that you're a huge fan of as well, as Proscriptor here obviously), has got to be SO hard! Take that into consideration when judging him. This man plays incredibly demanding extreme drumming, while at the same time doing the extreme vocals, that just requires talent. He's IMO the best in metal doing that, can't think of a more skillful person. In a sense i do agree with people here saying he's just too good for Slayer. But this is Slayer. He's probably a huge fan, and should've gotten that position. Having to "lower the demands" musically wouldn't have probably bothered Proscriptor that much...or at all ;)
Has anyone put together the fact that those are Vinnie Paul's drums from his other cover band called gasoline.... Note the audition took place in Dallas Texas.
You should respect Slayer because they influenced groups like, for example, Absu. They established the foundation for the future extreme metal bands. JUST because of that, RESPECT!!!!
I can see why they didn't choose him honestly. He is incredibly fast but doesn't carry the groove that Lombardo does. That is an underestimated part of the Slayer sound. This dude is in his own league.
+Rocko Parker You mean the snare sound in this video? That isn't Proscriptor's kit, it's Vinnie Paul's. He must have let Slayer use it as a stand in kit, so every drummer that auditioned wouldn't have to bring their own.
He played Hell Awaits a little faster than usual, oh well. Maybe King was playing it slower lol... who cares. If he joined Slayer, those guys couldn't keep up with Proscriptor. Knowing the history of his song writing from Absu, what he could've brought to the table would have revamped Slayer tremendously.
Its the vibe, the emotion which moves your arms and legs,not the brain...Thats why you hear two people playing the same stuff, and one is great but the other one sucks..Even though its exactly the same..
just enjoy the music. Ego makes you identify with the situation and feel his supposed frustration of him not getting accepted in this audition. You're just projecting you're negative attitude of fear into this world. You are literally conjuring fear. This is how you manifest thought-forms. Enjoy the game, enjoy the process. All is in the Eye. Peace
Mix some Araya's Vocals, Hanneman's lyrics, King's solos and Proscriptor's Ideas... Man...That would've need a name change...Good Lord...i'm wetting just to imagine an Slayer cover for Highland Tyrant Attack...
@@Elitetiger27 not if you play with Bob Marley it doesn't... if you play in Slayer oh yes it does... Lombardo is one of the greatest drummers of all time, speed and precision are essential to his style
Nah but there is such a thing as playing too fast it sounds rushed. Felt out of sync. Maybe the guitar needed to be louder so he can stay in time with Kerry. I've done it myself when I couldn't hear the guitar at a venue and shit. That's usually when you get the look like yo slow down.
@@oopsydaizi3s824 Ok, this is what I wanted to say and I'm not coming back to this anymore: if you can play Dave Lombardo faster than Dave Lombardo with precision (and the guy is sharp, faster than you're accustomed to for the song, but precise), you must be a great drummer. He played it as he feels it, that's his style. Listen to Absu, you'll see what I mean. He didn't rush it, just played it faster, and I could hear Kerry struggling to keep up, so I giggled a bit. I admit, I was never a big Kerry King fan, I always thought Hannemann was waaay better, both technique-wise and riff-wise.
Like Metallica, Slayer would have a hired gun and WOULD not let them have any direct input into writing music. I am very happy Russ has free reign into writing more interesting music then Slayer can ever come with.
Only other drummers i can compare him to are dennis the menace from macabre and flo from cryptopsy those three are my favorite drummers and the ones i write guitar parts thanking of
@msiqct I believe I read once (though I could be wrong) that Kerry's opinion was, "he's good, but too $&#**^% weird." Also, I could be wrong again, but I think it wasn't long after this that Dave rejoined Slayer.
Out of his depth? Really? I'd like to see Kerry King and co. try to play any of Absu's material. Yes. I have all the respect in the world for Lombardo, and he is definitely one of the best, but Proscriptor is marginally better in all aspects. Tara and the 2 out of 3 trilogy of Absu and Abzu should be more than enough to prove that point.
I'm sure Kerry King can play Absu songs. The riffs are VERY similar. But really Tara is an incredible classic of an album. So many incredible songs on that album and the third storm of cythraul is even better
No. I dig him in Absu and Melechesh (though his drum tone was always very thin) but here he had no feeling, character, dynamics nor groove. He played too fuckin' fast and didn't allow the song to flow (yes, sometimes playing too fast or slow can take away from the song). There's a lot of lyrics at every measure so how in the fuck is Tom gonna sing at that speed? He didn't play the parts anywhere close to on the album. And his snare sounds like flicking wax paper. No tone, power or low end. He's a rad drummer but I guess unable to adapt to what Slayer requires in a drummer. This is just not his style at all.
okokok there is a poin for kerry to play his solo and that is that the drummer should know the song even if kerrry took out a harmonica and started doing blues scales over it hes expecting the drummer to play hell awaits. its acctually a BASIC thing that all band members do,reherse withot one guitar or vocals, or bass to ensure everybody knows the song and no matter what happens the song will go on. so when the rythm guitar dissapears its all up to this drummer to count and keeep it together. this is basic musical knowledge. if you play a song in front of an aidience you have to know yhe song. acctually i think Prince does it best, you can not be a member if you dont know the tunes on all instruments used within the song. so if there is violin and trumpet and you pla the triangle, then you should know their parts to
But practicing isn’t live at the Budakan either dude. You should be breaking down your songs - especially if you are jamming with someone BRAND NEW. You don’t play a song beginningto end til you have it all down. It is really simple: break down the pieces into sections, once you’ve got them down, fit them together. A song on an album was, typically, one take out of however many; simply put it is just one complete song. You def can’t expect a musician to come into a rehearsal - for the first time - and just know everyone else’s part; for one thing, all musicians are different, just as people are, and songs have a way 0f changing over time - especially older songs change as they re played over and over again (even monolithic power chord thrash metal). I’ve loved Slayer since I first heard them in the mid 80’s and it was DL’s solo on Live Undead that freaking altered what drumming is to me big time.
I once read in Absu's official site that dave lombardo was auditioned behind closed doors instead of playing where the rest of the drummers played. Proscriptor couldn't make because of his luck of stamina (that's what slayer said). In conclusion, it's all about the original line up....(satisfies fans and ,brings more cash and builds momentum for upcoming releases).(sorry for my bad english)
Not only at the end, but after the end of Hanneman´s solo he should have stopped as well. I also think it was a bit too fast, but he was enjoying the hell out of it!!!!
Proscriptor is an insanely brilliant drummer. His snare charges are monstrous. Hail Proscriptor.
I asked Steve Asheim after a Deicide show about this and he said that apparently Slayer said Proscriptor was to fast and to weird. Perfect.
+EFLander I once read somewhere that he also broke a cymbal during the audition from playing so hard, but have no idea if that's true... In any case Proscriptor's style is way more progressive and his artistic leanings tend to be far more into the occult and mythological stuff when he's writing songs, so I don't think he'd ever really fit in with Slayer perfectly. If they had done just one album, however, it would have been interesting to hear. IMO Givens is like the extreme metal version of Phil Collins... :P
+Joe Blow Dude, just his interviews alone are priceless.
boobengarden666 If you mean Proscriptor, I just saw one where he actually appeared to be fairly human and some hot girl was asking him questions about his work and he made a fair attempt at answering some questions regarding the various spellings/titles of his albums and trying to describe the differences between Sumerian/Babylonian/Mesopotamian whatever etc. myths and why he was into what he was into... etc... it's all ridiculously esoteric but he's still a great artist. Probably has done wayyyyyy more drugs than me....
boobengarden666 Ya, I saw that old video with him in the coat and holding a beer and talking all kinds of craziness. I really think he was incredibly high and studying way too much esoteric and occult stuff, thinking he was super-cool for knowing all this ridiculously obscure stuff about black magic and mythology. At least he's made some killer good music, even if the audience for it is very niche.
imagine not getting into slayer because you were too fast. that's amazing.
Proscriptor isn't nervous, he's bored
Proscriptor is a genius. He is the Man!!!
Imagine not getting a gig in Slayer cause you’re too fast LMFAO!!!!!!!
@bobthemuffin you're dead right but it was still funny watching the speed push on slayer
@@Elitetiger27 you definetly dont get how drumming works then lol, the drummers make the tempo no martter how fast or slow the riff is, but even so the drummer must be aware of the bpm. Proscriptor was on the tempo and he nailed it, better yet he made the guitarist break a sweat by speeding up for sure, cus he was playing like he was bored to death.
@@Elitetiger27 imagine you have no fucking clue who absu or proscriptor is and probably only know big metal bands. Slayer hasn't written anything good in years. I agree he was playing too fast, probably knew he wasn't getting gig and was just playing on pure energy jamming with some of his heroes.
lol
@@Elitetiger27 Wow, don't get worked up to a lather! 😄 I'm sure Slayer is super glad they got you for a cheerleader.
Proscripter is a Machine Gun on the drums. Possibly the greatest drummer ever!
Playing Dave Lombardo's drumming techniques requires a lot of strength and practice. This guy did very well!
Hands down the dumbest comment in this pretty old video.
the Slayer lineup of 82' should come audition for ABSU
Ha!!! 🤘👌
I agree 1000 percent. That's something worth seeing
They wouldn't be able to keep up
That would be something. Third storm cythraul by Slayer. 😅
Ah, this dude can play.
I've watched this clip so many times. Proscriptor was too good for these dorks
Not on daves level
Absu and nearly all extreme metal bands wouldn't even exist without these "dorks"
Judging from his Slayer-clips Proscriptor should've gotten the job(I've seen the other auditions) IMO.
There must've been some other reason than "just" the playing, which i definitely would get, gotta have the chemistry too.
But musically he nailed this, made it look like child's play playing Lombardo-stuff(not quite the Lombardo groove here, but who else has that, let's be honest..and, this is under huge pressure, keep in mind).
An auditioning for a big band(one that you're a huge fan of as well, as Proscriptor here obviously), has got to be SO hard! Take that into consideration when judging him.
This man plays incredibly demanding extreme drumming, while at the same time doing the extreme vocals, that just requires talent. He's IMO the best in metal doing that, can't think of a more skillful person.
In a sense i do agree with people here saying he's just too good for Slayer. But this is Slayer. He's probably a huge fan, and should've gotten that position. Having to "lower the demands" musically wouldn't have probably bothered Proscriptor that much...or at all ;)
Paul is awesome. But I only see Dave Lombardo for SLAYER.
Proscriptor looks like he's in slow-mo here. Damn fine drummer.
Amazing Speed !
This is how this Killer song should be played
Has anyone put together the fact that those are Vinnie Paul's drums from his other cover band called gasoline.... Note the audition took place in Dallas Texas.
Yes, I did.
Who cares
canyon club no less
I seen the heads and thought vinnie was jamming with Jerry at first. Lol
@@nachoballsgrande1776 stfu , your name is a food bunghole
This is fucking awesome. Proscriptor! Hail!
he beats the fuck out of the snare at 4:12!! haha
when he dropped that stick, the look on his face knew he wasnt getting the job
he wouldnt get it anyway. proscriptor is way to fast for slayer. kerry king cant keep up with him.
You should respect Slayer because they influenced groups like, for example, Absu. They established the foundation for the future extreme metal bands. JUST because of that, RESPECT!!!!
I agree with that 100 percent. I always say, Hell Awaits is the first true death metal album
He was too extreme for Slayer. 'nough said Absu is super underrated and hardly anyone knows about them or this insanely good drummer.
I know of them
Tom Florczak Jr. Absu and his drumming fucking suck👎🏻👎🏻
@@caseyplooy1696 oh how easy and yet so dumb
@@caseyplooy1696 You don't know anything about drumming or music do you?
Daron Malakian's Fedora Yeah, 40 years of drumming and 25 playing guitar........so, yeah I was playing before you were born......so...
I can see why they didn't choose him honestly. He is incredibly fast but doesn't carry the groove that Lombardo does. That is an underestimated part of the Slayer sound. This dude is in his own league.
Hands down Dave Lombardo, is the. Best, all bullshit aside.
Plus Lombardo is a hard drum beater, proscriptor is more fast and technical
Perfection!!!
Did anybody notice he is playin on Vinnie Paul's kit? :P
CrebleStar I thought the same.
Yep!
hellyeah bro. thats the kit he used on final gasoline show with dime n rex.
Truly_high_420 right
In the damageplan video too and reinventing the steel tour
PRoscriptor is overqualified for the job, if anything. He is one of the best drummers in all of metal
+Rocko Parker what ???? how ???
+Rocko Parker aww...how cute
the snare sound has absolutely nothing to do with been a qualified drummer,its a rehearsal outake and not a studio recording.....
+Rocko Parker You mean the snare sound in this video? That isn't Proscriptor's kit, it's Vinnie Paul's. He must have let Slayer use it as a stand in kit, so every drummer that auditioned wouldn't have to bring their own.
I guess the mud-flap graphic on the bass drums should have given it away. *lol*
hey Proscriptor is very good to see you playing drums in the song 'hell waits' fantastic!!
I magically hear Tom's vocals, particularly the second verse! haha, I must be insane.
if theyd get this dude now i might go see slayer again.
He played Hell Awaits a little faster than usual, oh well. Maybe King was playing it slower lol... who cares. If he joined Slayer, those guys couldn't keep up with Proscriptor. Knowing the history of his song writing from Absu, what he could've brought to the table would have revamped Slayer tremendously.
kerry king dude, kerry: you are a better musician? fu
Looks like he broke Kerry on this one.
Amazing drummer.
BRUTAL CONGRATULATIONS!!
That would have been a Blast if Proscriptor had joined slayer !!!
In my humble opinion he Is KILLER, if I was in Slayer I vote ti bring him in the band FOREVER.
Lots of expert "musicians" in the comments judging Kerry when he was actualy right....
Slayer would have thrived with this guy on the kit... An absolute legend. Nowhere near Lombardo, though.
This guy is too good for Slayer.
No, but almost plays it like Lombardo and much better than Bostaph
This stuff is a cakewalk for him compared to how he is used to playing :)
Its the vibe, the emotion which moves your arms and legs,not the brain...Thats why you hear two people playing the same stuff, and one is great but the other one sucks..Even though its exactly the same..
just enjoy the music. Ego makes you identify with the situation and feel his supposed frustration of him not getting accepted in this audition. You're just projecting you're negative attitude of fear into this world. You are literally conjuring fear. This is how you manifest thought-forms. Enjoy the game, enjoy the process. All is in the Eye. Peace
On a non-drummer related note, there’s some pretty badass picking going on, especially around 2:20. Nice!
Jeff Hanneman played it better hands down
He beat the hell out of those drums!
Kerry King was left behind for the first time ever... Hehehe
Filete !!! Impactante
absolutely maniacal
I agree with both of you, but he was already enjoying it!
Proscriptor could of done the drums AND VOCALS;!!/!!
Amazing how much fucking brutality Proscriptor gives this song.
Boy, ain't that the truth! You good sir have won the internet.
Kerry KING❤❤❤❤❤❤
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Even with stick drop Proscriptor kills it!
Mix some Araya's Vocals, Hanneman's lyrics, King's solos and Proscriptor's Ideas...
Man...That would've need a name change...Good Lord...i'm wetting just to imagine an Slayer cover for Highland Tyrant Attack...
To be honest, playing drums for Absu would be much more fun than playing for Slayer.
@gramel77 - Yeah, definitely wondering the same. He fits perfectly.
They should let Dave Lombardo try out .
Hail Proscriptor !
But that Dave guy is pretty good 🤔
the fact is that Kerry is barely keeping up with the sheer speed :)
@@Elitetiger27 not if you play with Bob Marley it doesn't... if you play in Slayer oh yes it does... Lombardo is one of the greatest drummers of all time, speed and precision are essential to his style
Nah but there is such a thing as playing too fast it sounds rushed. Felt out of sync. Maybe the guitar needed to be louder so he can stay in time with Kerry. I've done it myself when I couldn't hear the guitar at a venue and shit. That's usually when you get the look like yo slow down.
Sounded like Kerry was just keeping the right tempo and the drummer was rushing some parts.
@@oopsydaizi3s824 Ok, this is what I wanted to say and I'm not coming back to this anymore: if you can play Dave Lombardo faster than Dave Lombardo with precision (and the guy is sharp, faster than you're accustomed to for the song, but precise), you must be a great drummer. He played it as he feels it, that's his style. Listen to Absu, you'll see what I mean. He didn't rush it, just played it faster, and I could hear Kerry struggling to keep up, so I giggled a bit. I admit, I was never a big Kerry King fan, I always thought Hannemann was waaay better, both technique-wise and riff-wise.
Played a few festivals that Absu was on. Fucking intense.
Greetings from México 🤘😡🤘
I 😍
How charitable of Proscriptor to try out for a pop band!
... and this is the first GOOD song that was ever played on it.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That explains why it's bigger than the universe!
He is fuckin good ...
Blast beats in slayer noway
Good job
Like Metallica, Slayer would have a hired gun and WOULD not let them have any direct input into writing music.
I am very happy Russ has free reign into writing more interesting music then Slayer can ever come with.
Agree
FAST AS FUCK!!! he plays the shit out of it..
I have seen this before but us that Vinnie Paul's kit?
In fact, I was resigned to take the drummer audition, I was auditioning for the cable man
Do you know if Proscriptor had to do something after the audition?
Vinnie's kit?? His last pantera show w/o phil is when gasoline was created? Very cool R.I.P big V
fuckin' great
McGovernor of Drums \m/
DREAM on! SLAYER always BEGS LOMBARDO back!
@MorkaGraven With two bands as big as Slayer and Absu, I doubt it.
Being super fast does not make you a great drummer. Glad to see that unlike most bands, Slayer know that.
Nah they suck
Only other drummers i can compare him to are dennis the menace from macabre and flo from cryptopsy those three are my favorite drummers and the ones i write guitar parts thanking of
There something a little off about the way he plays to Hell Awaits.
Yeah, it's called "faster."
Google User A lot off.
A lot better.. you're both off in meth land.
@Nickhead87 interesting I don't recall anything about ego. go play now. Adults are talking here. thanks.
No it sounds fucking awesome imo
and a few weeks later i would see them in vancouver with dave
@msiqct I believe I read once (though I could be wrong) that Kerry's opinion was, "he's good, but too $&#**^% weird." Also, I could be wrong again, but I think it wasn't long after this that Dave rejoined Slayer.
Playing on Vinnie Paul's drum kit.
Can't imagine why he didn't get the gig...wait, yes I can.
@akudal964 thanks ;)
love the vinnie paul kit. wonder where they got it
he lost his stick in the right moment :-)
@Ghentpianist1987 I've never heard that Lars was their drummer!!??? I know Kerry was in Megadeth for about a minute and a half.
@Sacriphyx
I've heard it's because he's into the occult "too much"
The cognate house of courtly witches lies west of county Meath.
Out of his depth? Really? I'd like to see Kerry King and co. try to play any of Absu's material. Yes. I have all the respect in the world for Lombardo, and he is definitely one of the best, but Proscriptor is marginally better in all aspects. Tara and the 2 out of 3 trilogy of Absu and Abzu should be more than enough to prove that point.
I'm sure Kerry King can play Absu songs. The riffs are VERY similar. But really Tara is an incredible classic of an album. So many incredible songs on that album and the third storm of cythraul is even better
Their loss...
No. I dig him in Absu and Melechesh (though his drum tone was always very thin) but here he had no feeling, character, dynamics nor groove. He played too fuckin' fast and didn't allow the song to flow (yes, sometimes playing too fast or slow can take away from the song). There's a lot of lyrics at every measure so how in the fuck is Tom gonna sing at that speed? He didn't play the parts anywhere close to on the album. And his snare sounds like flicking wax paper. No tone, power or low end. He's a rad drummer but I guess unable to adapt to what Slayer requires in a drummer. This is just not his style at all.
Luke S. Absu fanboys are annoying. Pilar’s of mercy is the only cool thing they’ve ever done.
😲
okokok there is a poin for kerry to play his solo and that is that the drummer should know the song even if kerrry took out a harmonica and started doing blues scales over it hes expecting the drummer to play hell awaits. its acctually a BASIC thing that all band members do,reherse withot one guitar or vocals, or bass to ensure everybody knows the song and no matter what happens the song will go on. so when the rythm guitar dissapears its all up to this drummer to count and keeep it together. this is basic musical knowledge. if you play a song in front of an aidience you have to know yhe song. acctually i think Prince does it best, you can not be a member if you dont know the tunes on all instruments used within the song. so if there is violin and trumpet and you pla the triangle, then you should know their parts to
I agree.
But practicing isn’t live at the Budakan either dude. You should be breaking down your songs - especially if you are jamming with someone BRAND NEW. You don’t play a song beginningto end til you have it all down. It is really simple: break down the pieces into sections, once you’ve got them down, fit them together. A song on an album was, typically, one take out of however many; simply put it is just one complete song. You def can’t expect a musician to come into a rehearsal - for the first time - and just know everyone else’s part; for one thing, all musicians are different, just as people are, and songs have a way 0f changing over time - especially older songs change as they re played over and over again (even monolithic power chord thrash metal). I’ve loved Slayer since I first heard them in the mid 80’s and it was DL’s solo on Live Undead that freaking altered what drumming is to me big time.
time drifts quite a bit
Proscriptor would've brought Slayer to a whole new level of extremity. Oh well.
The Algorithm has blessed me today
I once read in Absu's official site that dave lombardo was auditioned behind closed doors instead of playing where the rest of the drummers played. Proscriptor couldn't make because of his luck of stamina (that's what slayer said). In conclusion, it's all about the original line up....(satisfies fans and ,brings more cash and builds momentum for upcoming releases).(sorry for my bad english)
Lack of stamina? Proscriptor? Bull!!!
Not only at the end, but after the end of Hanneman´s solo he should have stopped as well. I also think it was a bit too fast, but he was enjoying the hell out of it!!!!
superlative
Kręcone żelazkiem do prasowania ??
Estaba nervioso.