I was fortunate to have started and ended my Rolex journey without having to go through the whole song and dance with the ADs, with most of the pieces left on my list readily available at 20-30% discount. Don't envy those looking to get into the game now, or any time in the last 2-3 years.
Kinda the same, I bought watches for a period between 2007 and 2010, then I stopped, didn't pay attention to it. In fact, last I remembered swiss watches were going out of fashion because apple watch (early 2010s) and then boom lol
The problem with ADs today is that they mostly selling to flippers knowingly, and from my knowledge, a staggering amount of sought after stock goes to the flippers. ADs love to cry foul and pretend to be the victims but they're a key enablers in the whole watch market turning into an experience that has been going downhill for the past 3-5 years.
TLDR: Money talks. If you want nice watches from the ADs, buy some rubbish watches first. If you dont want to waste time and money “pleasing” ADs, just go to the grey market and pay the premium. There is no way around this ☺️
This podcast is great. I have to share that your first few episodes were not that great as the quality of the guest and their insights / stories weren’t too interesting / insightful. Adrian did a good job of presenting the reality of the watch journey for new collectors. Will be interesting to see more guests like him :) Thought I’d elaborate. It’s nice that he was the collection and rep to lend credibility to his insights. He is also tactful with his opinion without sugarcoating the need for a two way relationship with ADs.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the feedback! The goal is to include a variety of people from different walks of life, so not all episodes will be for everyone, unfortunately.
It’s your podcast! You’re free to invite whoever you want. Although I think many will prefer to see guests with diverse / extensive collections. More interesting than individuals with just a few pieces that also happen to be generic models which doesn’t make for much of a story / talking point.
The one in, one out mentality is what I think I should adopt. I think it would make me think twice about buying something, as I really love what I have. No offence to this chap but buying all the sky dwellers that he doesn't wear, because he has access to a AD, that sounds a bit disengaged from collecting, sounds like he's a hoarder. Plus he collects whisky and champagne, aspirational AF. 🤑
I don’t think there’s any appetite to get new customers. Had a massive milestone in my professional life. Why should I spend $20k on crap when I don’t want that… I know the model I want and also provide assurances around getting another one for my wife…. But no traction and pointed me to the door almost… 😂 So it’s all a joke…
To be honest if you just want rolex , just go grey. Or just collect other brands but but if you watch collection as an investment , i suggest you look elsewhere
Sure, but the struggle of sourcing and verifying exactly what you're looking for is a pain in itself. I want an mk4 1680, but first I need to educate myself on all the visual cues to ensure it is an mk4, then how do I ensure that the movement hasn't been tampered with across the decades of its existence? Here I am, still in the market for one, reluctant to drop $30-40k for the numerous examples listed online.
I was fortunate to have started and ended my Rolex journey without having to go through the whole song and dance with the ADs, with most of the pieces left on my list readily available at 20-30% discount.
Don't envy those looking to get into the game now, or any time in the last 2-3 years.
Lucky man! And agreed.
Kinda the same, I bought watches for a period between 2007 and 2010, then I stopped, didn't pay attention to it. In fact, last I remembered swiss watches were going out of fashion because apple watch (early 2010s) and then boom lol
Very well balanced chap. A great speaker on the issue and I’m sure many will gain value in listening to this discussion.
Wonderful interview! Great tips on how to start a watch collecting journey from the Superstar himself! 👏👏👏
Honored that this kind gentleman was willing to come on
The problem with ADs today is that they mostly selling to flippers knowingly, and from my knowledge, a staggering amount of sought after stock goes to the flippers. ADs love to cry foul and pretend to be the victims but they're a key enablers in the whole watch market turning into an experience that has been going downhill for the past 3-5 years.
Some sell directly to watch dealers too.
@@watchesinsingaporemany do so as they have kickbacks there ! Hard truth , $ talks , and that’s in the sales reps benefit .
Excellent sharing. 18mins20sec onwards speaks to me.
Great to hear!
Great Video👌🏻. Keep up the good quality and interesting Topics 😁‼️
Oh and Adrian is very Handsome and knowledgeable , nice and gorgeous person😉😂😂😂.
Thank you for watching 🙏🏻
Basically . the advice given was , buy a bunch of shit you don’t want and be a sucker .
Great interview Adrian :)
TLDR: Money talks. If you want nice watches from the ADs, buy some rubbish watches first. If you dont want to waste time and money “pleasing” ADs, just go to the grey market and pay the premium. There is no way around this ☺️
what a great podcast.
Many thanks, means a lot
This podcast is great. I have to share that your first few episodes were not that great as the quality of the guest and their insights / stories weren’t too interesting / insightful.
Adrian did a good job of presenting the reality of the watch journey for new collectors.
Will be interesting to see more guests like him :)
Thought I’d elaborate. It’s nice that he was the collection and rep to lend credibility to his insights.
He is also tactful with his opinion without sugarcoating the need for a two way relationship with ADs.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the feedback!
The goal is to include a variety of people from different walks of life, so not all episodes will be for everyone, unfortunately.
It’s your podcast! You’re free to invite whoever you want.
Although I think many will prefer to see guests with diverse / extensive collections. More interesting than individuals with just a few pieces that also happen to be generic models which doesn’t make for much of a story / talking point.
so is it better stick to one SA and one AD?
Well, brand definitely know what they are doing and plan. We just buy whenever there’s chance.
Great podcast!
Thanks for taking the time to watch! More coming soon
WOW! Superstar!!
WOW! MR superstars!!!
The one in, one out mentality is what I think I should adopt. I think it would make me think twice about buying something, as I really love what I have.
No offence to this chap but buying all the sky dwellers that he doesn't wear, because he has access to a AD, that sounds a bit disengaged from collecting, sounds like he's a hoarder. Plus he collects whisky and champagne, aspirational AF. 🤑
my idol❤❤❤
My FM idol too
😍😍😍
1 word, money talks lol 😆
Of course it goes both way.
The King himself, Mr Superstar! 👏👏👏
Nowadays you mia! Sad man!!! 😂😂😂
Waiting for you to leave your day job mate
@@watchesinsingapore no choice, he doesn't want to pay me my checks or hire me!
Nice but he sounds like he over most watches at this point
Well, he's also almost collected the full Patek and Rolex catalogue at this point. I'm sure he'll bounce back though
I think he collect until “sien” already. 😅 Maybe he should try Pokemon Cards dy.
Wowowow lol
Familiar face?
Just had dinner with her few hours ago 😂
I don’t think there’s any appetite to get new customers. Had a massive milestone in my professional life. Why should I spend $20k on crap when I don’t want that… I know the model I want and also provide assurances around getting another one for my wife…. But no traction and pointed me to the door almost… 😂
So it’s all a joke…
Well said
@@watchesinsingapore so any tips for getting THE watch i want and no others... or is the grey market my natural landing spot?
@@ritul89go grey or don’t buy the “hype” brands.. there’s no escaping the AD’s bundling or “journey”
To be honest if you just want rolex , just go grey. Or just collect other brands but but if you watch collection as an investment , i suggest you look elsewhere
I'd agree, although some people understandable like the feeling of buying something brand new from a store.
Why not go vintage ? It’s much more interesting.
Sure, but the struggle of sourcing and verifying exactly what you're looking for is a pain in itself. I want an mk4 1680, but first I need to educate myself on all the visual cues to ensure it is an mk4, then how do I ensure that the movement hasn't been tampered with across the decades of its existence? Here I am, still in the market for one, reluctant to drop $30-40k for the numerous examples listed online.