This is the THE royal oak to get in my opinion.. perfectly sized, stunning grey dial. The case-to-bracelet ratio and tapering is the excellent in this model (vs. other larger ROs). I wear 36-42mm watches, 40mm being the sweet spot for my wrist but this 37mm fits absolutely great. I don’t consider this a “sports watch” given the facts that you perfectly pointed out in your video but rather a cool industrial dress watch or for smart-casual wear 🙌🏻 excellent reviews always!! 😀👍🏻
You get an awful lot of value for the money considering if you pay 21,000 USD for a new one and then being able to sell it for 27,000+ USD immediately afterwards. That's a whole lot of value
@@gaborszinyei8180 I think as long as resale value is significantly higher than the retail cost, it always has to be considered when looking at overall value. I certainly wouldn't pay grey market price and say it's a good value. Only at retail do I think a royal oak is good value.
Outdated movement, outdated design paid for 4 decades ago... AP as a company relies too much on their previous investments without investing much at all in the new R&D. That’s why Omega, GS and PP will suffocate the AP brand in the future. One has to invest in its future in order to continue to be a prosperous one...
I wouldn't mind the smaller size at all. With my 15300 ST at 39, it still feels just a little large at times for my wrist. I remember trying the 15400 at the AD and wow, does it ever wear large. I'm really happy you pointed out how it's the lug to lug that really highlights the watches' size on the wrist. I never realized that until you mentioned it and it's a revelation.
I have a 7" wrist, and I would definitely consider the 37mm. I like less-bulky watches, but I would definitely like to try both sizes. But if it's a $10k difference I would definitely get the 37mm lol
IMO dress watches look the best when they are an understated piece that accommodates the rest of your outfit. The dial of royal oaks are outstandingly gorgeous and absolutely not “understated”. So a smaller dial size is absolutely what it’s needed for being a great dress watch.
It is a sports watch and unless you intend to use it as a sports watch there is no real point in getting the watch. It is a watch that can be used for swimming and even diving if you wanted to.
I am totally with you. The amount of oversized watches on people's hands and what is considered a good proportion is a let down. Personally anything above 38mm for me is a no go.
@@19NJS71 That is what I was thinking about when I posted my reply, but you are comparing branding and "specs" mentioning... And no, not everybody knows about AP. They are amongst the best, but not as known as Rolex or even Patek.
I own this watch with the blue dial, and I must say I agree with everything you said here. The water resistance is so disappointing. It’s easily the biggest weakness of the watch. As far as scratches, I’ve already gouged the hell out of the dial on mine, and honestly I prefer it that way. If you’re committed to spending the money on this thing, you should be committed to wearing it. I can’t wait to see mine in 30 years, undoubtedly beaten to a pulp. That’s how it should be.
Jenni, I hope you're not suggesting that the 37mm fits you. It doesn't. You need the 34mm 77450 for your charming spaghetti wrists. I have the 15500, but I have 20cm/8 inch wrists, and it fits beautifully. You are correct when you say it's not a daily watch. I wear it only when I can take perfect care of it. It would break my heart to scratch it. Which is why, for me, it is strictly a special occasion watch. My go to daily watch is a Polar Explorer II, and I never have to worry about bashing it - as it is completely brushed steel, no shiny center links or other distractions to worry about. It's not really a compromise, because I love it almost as much. I have a number of other decent watches, but I would be perfectly happy with just these two.
@@garyboyle695 I buy my watches to wear them. I take a shower with my Rolex because I bought it with my hard earned money so that I can enjoy wearing it anytime I feel doing it. It’s the same if someone would tell me “Don’t drive your Porsche 911 every day because it’s expensive and the potholes will hurt it.”... 😂
I absolutely agree! C’mon...how hard is it to make a sports watch 100m water resistant? Whether you actually go that deep or not, it should just be an expectation for any watch in the ‘sport’ category.
@@garyboyle695 The very watch is based on the design of a porthole, it is sold as a sport watch with industrial design, and is not able to go beyond 50 meters in the sea, it's a $20.000 joke. I agree with John Doe, I buy and use sport watches because I do everything with it, I sleep with it, I shower with it, I swim, play sports and work with it. It's the very meaning of a sport watch.
I own this exact watch and I must say I totally agree. ‘50m’ is code for ‘splash proof’ in this game. I don’t even wear mine in the shower for that reason, which is definitely a disappointment for a ‘sport’ watch. But another huge issue is how much of a scratch magnet it is. I’ve already scratched the shit out of mine, which I’m sure would be a concern for most people. But I would never buy a watch to keep in a box and I have come to terms with it.
You bring up some great points Jenni!! I have the Royal Oak 15400ST with a silver dial. It’s a fantastic piece that radiates prestige and fine craftsmanship. The only weakness with the Royal Oak is the comfort of the bracelet. There are a lot of rough edges and it does not feature a extension link like a Rolex. It is impossible to fit the bracelet so it works year round. I would recommend getting a precious metal version on a leather strap.
I agree with you; I wouldn't wear this on a daily basis and, with this COVID Era, we seldom have the opportunity to "show it off" at receptions with friends or events. I'd wear an Omega Seamaster (Aqua Terra) over this one any time. As an everyday watch, w/o any hesitation ... and it's more than 3 1/2 times less expensive on top of that. Thanks for sharing your views and for showing off your great watch rolls! Good luck on the upcoming launch! 😃👍🏼
@@rickjason215 Yeah... don't know Rick. It's not what I'd spend that kind of money on either but I do prefer smaller timepieces. I'm wearing my Alpinist on a jubilee atm and I wear 35mm / 36mm vintage pieces very often. The way the RO wears? Think I'd go 39mm. 🙂
@@anthonysmith2982 It doesn’t really matter what I think, it’s what you feel comfortable with. I don’t think even like those watches and people will pay stupid money for them. What do I know?
@@rickjason215 That's sorta the way I feel too bud. They are breathtaking in the metal. And when I handled one (it was a vintage Jumbo) I did have a 'Oh. OK. Now I get it' type experience. But at the same time... It's sooo much $, and way beyond my personal sense of the law of diminishing returns, if that makes sense. I just have to remind myself that to some people $20-$40K is not a huge amount of money... I'm mostly buying in the sub $1500 part of the market - so it's a moot point anyway. But I do think watch size is an interesting topic. I've got a Lunar Pilot - 45mm X 53mm or whatever it is. It wears like a saucer! It's comfy for me - gets a heap of 'beater' time on a bund in winter... But despite my wrist size, nothing wears as well as a piece that ᴡᴇᴀʀs ʟɪᴋᴇ a 39mm - 40mm. I don't know whether that makes me average or not - don't really care - but I do wonder how guys with 6.5 - 7“ wrists experience the same pieces - because they obviously take up more real estate than the smaller wrists so I can't help but think it must be a discomfort, since that's my experience when I 'scale up'... anyway. I'm probably speaking shite here. It's just something that I often wonder about. 🤷♂️ Cheers!
Love this watch. I am a guy but I generally have smaller wrist and this fits like a charm. Price wise I think it's pretty pricey, but you're right- you get what you pay for! 😉
I have heard people pronounce it nearly like this in real life. Keeping a straight face was tough. I did tell them nicely how it was pronounced at least
I own a 15450 grey dial as a guy with tiny wrists (6 inches). My one gripe is the lack of fine adjustment available. My bracelet setup as it stands wears a little tight in the warmer months, but perfectly in the colder months. I added a link recently and it's now too loose for my liking, even as it's been hot lately.
Being the grumpy traditionalist weirdo that I am when it comes to watch sizes, I would not only wear the 37mm "ladies size", but I would also keep wishing for a 35mm variant, as these integrated bracelet-style watches tend to wear slightly larger. As Tim Mosso said: the 41mm is "imposing". That's Rolex Deep Sea level of Mosso lingo :D Die gibt's auch vintage als sehr kleine, flache Quarz-Referenz ohne Sekundenzeiger (zum Glück!), die würde ich eher an dir sehen. :) Grüße ins Ländle!
I would take this AP over the larger 41mm Royal Oak any day as a proud member of the small to medium size wrist committee. Pretty much every watch I have ever had has had a case diameter
Congratulations on discovering that AP markets its Royal Oak model in range of sizes. AP enthusiasts have known and appreciated this fact for many many years.😚
@@garyboyle695 I might even add one further note not even as hyped as a Patek Philippe 5711 which is garbage in my mind and much to do about nothing it's like a '70s TV
Favourite watch of all time. I love everything about it's design and execution. I've tried on the 38mm Chrono and it was a bit small on my wrist. I would say that it was the absolute smallest watch size that I might ever consider.
There's no fkn way this watch is worth over 15k (the price of the cheapest one you can get). Better buy a fake or a Bulova Royal oak that's only 5 thousand
I have a 7.5 inch wrist so I could probably pull off wearing the 41mm 15500ST. I love the bracelet and the screws in the bezel. I'd probably go for the black dial. That said, if I were in the market for one, I'd probably try on both the 41mm and the 37mm, because you never know which will fit better when it wears so notoriously large.
It really is the perfect watch for your typical "team leader" type. Goes well with everything tasteless... should match up perfectly with that company lease Audi.
Just bought a 15451 st, great looking watch for a smaller wrist. IMO the perfect size and profile would be 39mm 15202 though , but I agree that it cannot would worn as a daily beater watch but man it looks good.
Jenni, I think that a watch you’d like for about half the price with much more scratch resistant metal to assuage your concerns about everyday wear would be the Chopard Alpine Eagle Eye. It’s very fine and the dial is fascinating.
Although I could never justify spending such an amount on a watch, if I ever did it would be this Royal Oak (over anything else). It just looks very cool to me. In the real world, I'll be buying a Casioak.
@Jenni AP released last year a 34mm RO Automatic, it is beautiful and is big statment targeted at the growing female watch market! Would be amazing if you could review it!
Interesting take on such a classic. When I eventually pick up mine, I'll have to remember it's delicate movement, as I intended for it to have plenty of wrist time.
I adore everything about it, especially the bracelet. I have the same size wrist as you and would wear this or a 34. I recently found a really cool 37 mm RO offshore chrono and sent it to AP for a full service and well you were 💯 on that point.
Great vid. Im a regular size fella, and have owned both the 15450st and now the 15400st. I really tried, but in the end the 37mm for a dude was just too small. 41mm is 🔥 and it has presence, but in no way too big. (Unlike a 44mm RO offshore which you have to be a monster to wear)
@jenni elli thank you for covering one of my favourites, 37mm is really good for smaller wrists and ... you have a really cute way of speaking the model numbers :)
Love the look, and I would definitely wear the 37mm (prob not 34mm) but overall I wouldn't buy one for the $. For a sports watch would want something more robust, higher WR etc. VC oversea probably.
I'm partial to the Overseas myself; same general style, price, and level of external finishing, but far less "arrogantly edgy" as you aptly stated. Plus, the movement on the Overseas is finished to a much higher level, with all bevels mirror-polished by hand.
Have a 17cm wrist and the 41mm 15500 fits perfectly. To those looking to buy a Royal Oak, these watches scratch VERY EASILY. Gotta be delicate with them (despite them being stainless steel). The first scratch hurts the most…
Hey! Do you have any tips? I’d love to know because both my father and I are interested in purchasing a 37mm AP Royal Oak. I just don’t want to fly out of state for no reason. Are there any key words to say? Was it a simple process? I really need advice because we’re ready to get on the list right now. Thank you
@@Yinyang1277 I got mine earlier this year, had to wait for a year and visited the boutique thrice before I got the call. DOnt expect to walk in and walk out with a watch.
@@abaan1010 Understandable thanks for the reply. So essentially walk in and dress nice then explain the watch you're interested in. Make a deposit then walk out and visit that boutique a couple and or a few times to kind of make sure they take you more seriously? Trust me im expecting to wait a year tbh, but I just dont want to for example fly there with my dad. Go to the boutique even fly there a couple more times then wait a year just to find out they never put me in the system because I heard Rolex has done that to customers and I really dont want that to happen with AP because that alone will stop me from purchasing one if they will be that disrespectful to customers who can purchase their watch now. I just want to make sure everything is smooth. Do you think it matters what boutique I go to? Sorry its just I have my Omega seamaster and im 21, but my first real super luxury watch I want to be is an AP I just dont know if they will take me serious enough so I want to make sure my image is proper.
I love this review. It's the most negative review I've probably ever seen on youtube, but couched so delicately. You plainly leave out the clues, which is appreciated. Cheers.
As a girl, I am always super pleased over more reasonably sized automatic watches being released. I know I’m not exes like APs target exactly market but as a collector I’m still grateful.
Hi Jenni, Amazing video. Love the watch but i still think 20k + for a full stainless steel 3 hand watch is astronomical. You also forgot to mention the movement is JLC based.. which is a good thing but i would expect a fully in house movement at this price point from a watch within the holy trinity. 😉 Do you agree? Take care and keep it up.
An absolutely beautiful watch in my opinion. If I could afford one (and I really mean afford one - servicing etc.) it would definitely be a daily wearer for me. It's a watch and is meant to be worn. I would be happy to wear the 37mm, have a 36mm Rolex Explorer....... 2006, before the 'investors hijacked the market. Unfortunately, I can't afford one. Ah well........! Thanks for the great review Jenni.
@@BobMuir100 In her own words. It was a review. And a good one. 1. How it wears/size, diameter and lug to lug measurements on male and female versions. Caliber and date complication position. 2.Finishing related to price. Bezel, bracelet, clasp and Dial details. 3.Daily wear. Movement details and caseback + suitable or not for shooting and swimming, etc. Too fancy to wear on a daily basis. Too industrial... And finally, in her own words at 7:22 " that concludes my review of the Ap Royal Oak" But it doesn't ends there ... more considerations ... just watch, Sir... it was a review. But I didn't call it "full review". You did. And as always, I enjoyed the video.
@@Lawrence64 : Gosh desperate to prove a point or what? OK well if you can watch Jenny’s video on the piece and make your declaration then I remain surprised , wearability was the subject on the item and made very clear at the start. Now how a watch wears isn’t just about a single aspect, as Jenni made clear, so yes many parts were mentioned but in the way they added to or distracted from the wearing of the watch. Not rocket science? Maybe you need to watch more videos as you sound like a newbie (which we all were) or you are an inverted snob who will always be down on high end watches. Please don’t reply without a new major point as I am too busy to maintain a string such as this. Leave it that we see it differently. Enjoy watches Bob
@@BobMuir100 You say you’re too busy for this yet are arguing about absolutely nothing? Are you not happy she had some criticisms about the RO? She also covered movement, WR, finishing, price, etc. Didn’t know there was a Committee of Review Snobs that decide what’s a watch review and what isn’t.
Yep, the AP RO is sort of a Cartier "Love Bracelet" of a watch, it's a mixed bag and not at all practical in comparison to so much else that is, the Aquanaut for example has some of the same vibe but with non of the problems. And thing is the RO wasn't originally intended to be a gilt-complex, it's almost a joke now, and for most people it will be.
Movement complaint seems questionable. They did put the same movement into Offshore models which where supposed to be (truly) rugged sportswatches. So either AP is sure that this movement can take a beating, or AP simply does not have true ‘beater’ watches. Size. RO does have lugs that ‘show’ the direction for the bracelet. So when bracelet does not fully embrace the wrist and sticks out - that isn’t looking great. But in the same way if a smaller version on a bigger wrist has bracelet pointing too outwards without following the line of the lugs - it also isn’t looking great at all. 41 mm RO on a 16,5-17 cm wrist looks very natural, bracelet follows the lugs and watch fits nicely to the wrist. So my guess smaller watch would look OK from upfront view, but from a wearers view one would always see that odd shaping of lugs and bracelet. So IMO 39 (and smaller) versions are for really small wrists, while 41, no matter how many people label it as a baby Offshore, pancake or whatever, is actually a good option for a medium wrist. And for the bigger wrist not even all Offshores would fit naturally.
Interesting Jenni, good review and very good spin with making it about one aspect (pretty much) that’s wearing it! That of course is what we are going actually do after all! With an 8’5” wrist I have no issue with wearing 36cm to 50cm all seem to be ok, although 40cms is my sweet spot. Interesting about lug to lug I will be measuring some watches later. My early watches were of course 36 & 37cms as standard as that was only size made! My collection houses an additional 3 vintage pieces of 36cm (Otis, Mondial and Timex) that I love! I hope AP sent you a Royal Oak after they viewed this!!! Lol -;) Bob England
I’m waiting for the 15500. I have a 7 inch wrist, so I can pull off the larger size. It’s crazy the wait list, just as bad as Rolex sports models. Ideally, I want the boutique exclusive blue dial but the salesperson told me it is impossible. Hope to get the black dial within a year if I’m lucky.
I got a 16.5cm wrist, and frankly it fits perfectly! I got a blue dial version and it wears like a Rolex Daytona or Yatchmaster 40mm. The design is second to none, but personally I would not wear it to go for a swim, but I would and have done so with the Daytona and Yatcmaster. It is just another level of class compares to Rolex stainless steel models I suppose.
@@solefreak2 I didn't get my blue 37mm from retail, I bought it through a dealer for just under £20k last year. Although two years ago, I was offered the ruthenium-toned/grey dial, but I didn't take it. Kicking myself now:( P.S. The blue 37mm RO is now rarer than a Rolex Daytona - you can see that in Chrono24, therefore Rolex GMT II is not comparable.
@@jamiesieu801 My brother has a good relationship with our local AP boutique and has a 37mm blue dial on request for me. Not sure how long it will take before I get it but rest assured, we will have one at retail.
@@JenniElle Glad my OCD (and the fact I love this model) could help. Although I think you’re right, it would soon look a lot less ‘precise’ and angular. I could never really enjoy this so thanks for saving me £20k 😉
@@faisalingalong I can confirm I wear AP RO daily - even the same reference and for me it definitely is a daily wearer. Of course it has some sctraches now, got a little vingate vibe but lost none of its charm.
@@JenniElle hate to be a stickler but I’m sure when you mean 54 you would say in German “vier und fünfzig” (four and fifty) right? It’s funny how it’s even confusing when you try to correct yourself! (Welcome to the human race haha)
You are correct my sweet spot is 37 to 39 but I can wear a 42 if as you say the lug to lug is in the 40 s My theory is these are so costly that they assume their market is athletes especially in the US football players who are many times huge guys
went to a store yesterday just to have a look saw something in the distance that looked like an ap turned out to be a sublet classic but tried the 38mm regular and 42mm black magic version gotta say even tho I love the look of the 42 Blackmagic I can see why I would go for a 37/38mm watch as its just a better fit for small wrists
Great review Jenni. I’m totally with you, although I completely respect the Royal Oak I find the industrial/brutalist styling just a bit too harsh for my taste. The smaller size does make it seem a bit softer though and that dial is so intricate and detailed under macro.
Good day Jenni, thank you for making these awesome vids! :) Would you be able to cover on vintage watches like the Cartier CPCP tortue monopoussoir someday?
Great review! Jenni Love this reference and would personally wear this over the 15400/15500 series. Also If im not mistaken I think this ref is the 15450st not 14550st :) Cheers, Josh
Yeah, Adrian at B&J has made similar points, its not really a sports watch at all, the Naughty IS, or was in 5711 form, shock resistant, 150 WR and doesnt it hack? And have a quick set date? Which the flipping R O doesn't, like a bloody vostock
Great finishing but it's just disappointing how an iconic watch from the so called trinity doesn't have a quick set date. It's the same shortcoming of how the Vacheron Constantin Overseas doesn't have a hacking seconds feature.
There are two schools of thought when it comes to the APRO water resistance: A) if you respect the maison, then trust their judgment. If AP tells you that it's 50m WR, then trust that it's truly 50m of WR. The AP concierge will tell you that the watch is swimmable; that should be good enough. And, B) why would you ever take ANY luxury watch swimming or diving? Even if the risk of water ingress is minimal, the consequences - should it happen - are regrettable. This is what G-Shock watches exist for.
Nice review, Jenni! Do most luxury watches have more delicate movements than, for example, a Seiko workhorse like the 4R36/NH36? I always thought that most mechanical movements are equally resistant to shock and sports because most have their own anti-shock systems. Would you consider Zenith as being less "delicate?"
This is the THE royal oak to get in my opinion.. perfectly sized, stunning grey dial. The case-to-bracelet ratio and tapering is the excellent in this model (vs. other larger ROs). I wear 36-42mm watches, 40mm being the sweet spot for my wrist but this 37mm fits absolutely great. I don’t consider this a “sports watch” given the facts that you perfectly pointed out in your video but rather a cool industrial dress watch or for smart-casual wear 🙌🏻 excellent reviews always!! 😀👍🏻
Good points.
I wouldn’t buy any obscenely overpriced Royal Oaks but the 37mm is fantastic,
42mm is way to big.
Description shows 14550, should update to 15450 :)
My dream watch, both the tappisiere dial and the bracelet made me fall in love with it
AP have the most beautiful bracelet i've seen.
I also like the Vacheron Constantin Overseas with the Maltese Cross motif integrated into the bracelet.
So much truth.
Thats the only reason i would put that stop sign on my wrist
Vc with the Maltese cross
@@davidc5191VC so big..
It’s a beautiful watch and we all know what AP is about but that price tag is horrendous for what you get in terms of specs etc.
You get an awful lot of value for the money considering if you pay 21,000 USD for a new one and then being able to sell it for 27,000+ USD immediately afterwards. That's a whole lot of value
@@dingodango1 it’s not what I meant. It wasn’t about the resell value.
@@gaborszinyei8180 I think as long as resale value is significantly higher than the retail cost, it always has to be considered when looking at overall value. I certainly wouldn't pay grey market price and say it's a good value. Only at retail do I think a royal oak is good value.
Hand finishing is expensive.
Outdated movement, outdated design paid for 4 decades ago... AP as a company relies too much on their previous investments without investing much at all in the new R&D. That’s why Omega, GS and PP will suffocate the AP brand in the future. One has to invest in its future in order to continue to be a prosperous one...
I wouldn't mind the smaller size at all. With my 15300 ST at 39, it still feels just a little large at times for my wrist. I remember trying the 15400 at the AD and wow, does it ever wear large. I'm really happy you pointed out how it's the lug to lug that really highlights the watches' size on the wrist. I never realized that until you mentioned it and it's a revelation.
15300 has the best size. 39mm like the 15202.
I have a 7" wrist, and I would definitely consider the 37mm. I like less-bulky watches, but I would definitely like to try both sizes. But if it's a $10k difference I would definitely get the 37mm lol
IMO dress watches look the best when they are an understated piece that accommodates the rest of your outfit. The dial of royal oaks are outstandingly gorgeous and absolutely not “understated”. So a smaller dial size is absolutely what it’s needed for being a great dress watch.
It is a sports watch and unless you intend to use it as a sports watch there is no real point in getting the watch.
It is a watch that can be used for swimming and even diving if you wanted to.
I am totally with you. The amount of oversized watches on people's hands and what is considered a good proportion is a let down. Personally anything above 38mm for me is a no go.
I think the writing "Automatic" at the bottom of the watch perfectly fills in the dial.. making it look even better than the 41mm
I actually prefer it not to be mentioned... it is actually obvious that it is automatic 😆
@@TheTarekinho it's also obvious that it's an AP.. anyway, personal preference. ideal would be the logo, like the jumbo
@@19NJS71 That is what I was thinking about when I posted my reply, but you are comparing branding and "specs" mentioning... And no, not everybody knows about AP. They are amongst the best, but not as known as Rolex or even Patek.
Can I just say... YOUR ACCENT IS THE BEST! When you say Rolex.... Sounds so dang classy!
😘 thank you!!
Wish the women’s label would bring the stupid price down on the grey market. Gonna keep on treasuring my 70s Bulova RO in the meantime.
Always wanted one of those bulovas
Less materials should mean it’s more reasonable priced 😏
@@latristessdurera8763 What a difference 30 grams of steel make damn
I own this watch with the blue dial, and I must say I agree with everything you said here. The water resistance is so disappointing. It’s easily the biggest weakness of the watch. As far as scratches, I’ve already gouged the hell out of the dial on mine, and honestly I prefer it that way. If you’re committed to spending the money on this thing, you should be committed to wearing it. I can’t wait to see mine in 30 years, undoubtedly beaten to a pulp. That’s how it should be.
In 30 years? That’s incredibly optimistic, especially after the lowly comments you made about the watch I expected it to last no more than 3 years 😂
This is one of my favourites watch designs. I'd probably never own one due to the silly price for what is in essence a delicate steel watch.
I completely prefer this size, but I would prefer a blue dateless variant.
Truth. My thoughts exactly!
Yes the no complication, blue dial is the best. This is one of the watches that a tourbillon ruined its dial.
Thanks for the dial macro! Never seen it so close. Now I see how awesome the level of finishing is.
Jenni, I hope you're not suggesting that the 37mm fits you. It doesn't. You need the 34mm 77450 for your charming spaghetti wrists.
I have the 15500, but I have 20cm/8 inch wrists, and it fits beautifully. You are correct when you say it's not a daily watch. I wear it only when I can take perfect care of it. It would break my heart to scratch it. Which is why, for me, it is strictly a special occasion watch. My go to daily watch is a Polar Explorer II, and I never have to worry about bashing it - as it is completely brushed steel, no shiny center links or other distractions to worry about. It's not really a compromise, because I love it almost as much. I have a number of other decent watches, but I would be perfectly happy with just these two.
all things considered, just 50m water resistance for a watch like this and with this tradition, is pretty disappointing in my opinion
Why? don't know about you but I never shower or go into the sea with any of my watches, so 50 metres is fine for day to day living.
@@garyboyle695 I buy my watches to wear them. I take a shower with my Rolex because I bought it with my hard earned money so that I can enjoy wearing it anytime I feel doing it. It’s the same if someone would tell me “Don’t drive your Porsche 911 every day because it’s expensive and the potholes will hurt it.”... 😂
I absolutely agree! C’mon...how hard is it to make a sports watch 100m water resistant? Whether you actually go that deep or not, it should just be an expectation for any watch in the ‘sport’ category.
@@garyboyle695 The very watch is based on the design of a porthole, it is sold as a sport watch with industrial design, and is not able to go beyond 50 meters in the sea, it's a $20.000 joke.
I agree with John Doe, I buy and use sport watches because I do everything with it, I sleep with it, I shower with it, I swim, play sports and work with it. It's the very meaning of a sport watch.
I own this exact watch and I must say I totally agree. ‘50m’ is code for ‘splash proof’ in this game. I don’t even wear mine in the shower for that reason, which is definitely a disappointment for a ‘sport’ watch. But another huge issue is how much of a scratch magnet it is. I’ve already scratched the shit out of mine, which I’m sure would be a concern for most people. But I would never buy a watch to keep in a box and I have come to terms with it.
You bring up some great points Jenni!! I have the Royal Oak 15400ST with a silver dial. It’s a fantastic piece that radiates prestige and fine craftsmanship. The only weakness with the Royal Oak is the comfort of the bracelet. There are a lot of rough edges and it does not feature a extension link like a Rolex. It is impossible to fit the bracelet so it works year round. I would recommend getting a precious metal version on a leather strap.
I agree with you; I wouldn't wear this on a daily basis and, with this COVID Era, we seldom have the opportunity to "show it off" at receptions with friends or events.
I'd wear an Omega Seamaster (Aqua Terra) over this one any time. As an everyday watch, w/o any hesitation ... and it's more than 3 1/2 times less expensive on top of that.
Thanks for sharing your views and for showing off your great watch rolls! Good luck on the upcoming launch! 😃👍🏼
Appreciate the info on the water resistance and overall fragility. This is totally opposite of its looks and the style of the watch.
Wrist size isn't the only determining factor on what size watch to get. You have to look at your overall build, length of your arm, size of forearm.
I have an 8“ wrist and would consider the 39mm. It simply is a sweet spot - particularly on a watch that wears bigger than the specs indicate.
I have a 7.25 wrist and 39mm was just ok for me. I wouldn’t buy it, even if I could afford it. 8”, I wouldn’t think so.
@@rickjason215
Yeah... don't know Rick.
It's not what I'd spend that kind of money on either but I do prefer smaller timepieces.
I'm wearing my Alpinist on a jubilee atm and I wear 35mm / 36mm vintage pieces very often.
The way the RO wears? Think I'd go 39mm. 🙂
@@anthonysmith2982 It doesn’t really matter what I think, it’s what you feel comfortable with. I don’t think even like those watches and people will pay stupid money for them. What do I know?
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That's sorta the way I feel too bud.
They are breathtaking in the metal. And when I handled one (it was a vintage Jumbo) I did have a 'Oh. OK. Now I get it' type experience. But at the same time... It's sooo much $, and way beyond my personal sense of the law of diminishing returns, if that makes sense.
I just have to remind myself that to some people $20-$40K is not a huge amount of money...
I'm mostly buying in the sub $1500 part of the market - so it's a moot point anyway.
But I do think watch size is an interesting topic.
I've got a Lunar Pilot - 45mm X 53mm or whatever it is. It wears like a saucer! It's comfy for me - gets a heap of 'beater' time on a bund in winter... But despite my wrist size, nothing wears as well as a piece that ᴡᴇᴀʀs ʟɪᴋᴇ a 39mm - 40mm. I don't know whether that makes me average or not - don't really care - but I do wonder how guys with 6.5 - 7“ wrists experience the same pieces - because they obviously take up more real estate than the smaller wrists so I can't help but think it must be a discomfort, since that's my experience when I 'scale up'... anyway. I'm probably speaking shite here. It's just something that I often wonder about. 🤷♂️
Cheers!
Love this watch. I am a guy but I generally have smaller wrist and this fits like a charm. Price wise I think it's pretty pricey, but you're right- you get what you pay for! 😉
When Jenni said “Audemars Piguet” and the CC reads “Odometer Piggy” I died.
Edit : Spelling. And there goes the heart from Jenni 💔
Petition to rename it to "Odometer Piggy" 🤣
Even funnier is the CC for Teddy Baldassarre video when he says Vacheron Constantin. Each time it is different.
I have heard people pronounce it nearly like this in real life. Keeping a straight face was tough. I did tell them nicely how it was pronounced at least
I own a 15450 grey dial as a guy with tiny wrists (6 inches). My one gripe is the lack of fine adjustment available. My bracelet setup as it stands wears a little tight in the warmer months, but perfectly in the colder months. I added a link recently and it's now too loose for my liking, even as it's been hot lately.
Being the grumpy traditionalist weirdo that I am when it comes to watch sizes, I would not only wear the 37mm "ladies size", but I would also keep wishing for a 35mm variant, as these integrated bracelet-style watches tend to wear slightly larger. As Tim Mosso said: the 41mm is "imposing". That's Rolex Deep Sea level of Mosso lingo :D
Die gibt's auch vintage als sehr kleine, flache Quarz-Referenz ohne Sekundenzeiger (zum Glück!), die würde ich eher an dir sehen. :) Grüße ins Ländle!
Bearing in mind Tim's sizing eccentricities its his equivilent of the Hublot hockey puck (which I can reccomend for wrists of 10 centemeteres or more)
I had a Deepsea it’s a great watch. Even better on a Rubber B strap
@@Mpayne1472 I didn't mean to diss the Deep Sea. It's a great watch for sure, albeit... well... "imposing". ;)
@@Konsaliki i didn’t find it that way. Worth trying on
@@Mpayne1472 It was a time before people changed straps Grasshopper, Imagine how much a steel no date sub (with sword hands) would sell for Rolex...
“But first let’s pay some bills.” Brilliant 😂😂
I would take this AP over the larger 41mm Royal Oak any day as a proud member of the small to medium size wrist committee. Pretty much every watch I have ever had has had a case diameter
Congratulations on discovering that AP markets its Royal Oak model in range of sizes. AP enthusiasts have known and appreciated this fact for many many years.😚
It’s a nice looking watch but I’m not quite understanding why this watch is as hyped up as it is right now. Great video as always Jenni.
Still not as hyped as a Rolex.
Yep! The blue dial of AP 15450 (37mm) is fetching at USD 38k atm, and the quantity advertised in Chrono24 is low compared to Rolex Daytona 116500ln.
@@garyboyle695 I might even add one further note not even as hyped as a Patek Philippe 5711 which is garbage in my mind and much to do about nothing it's like a '70s TV
Favourite watch of all time. I love everything about it's design and execution. I've tried on the 38mm Chrono and it was a bit small on my wrist. I would say that it was the absolute smallest watch size that I might ever consider.
There's no fkn way this watch is worth over 15k (the price of the cheapest one you can get). Better buy a fake or a Bulova Royal oak that's only 5 thousand
I just noticed that the screws on the underside is not aligned (6:17)... for the price I expect them to be even if it's not visible all the time
I have a 7.5 inch wrist so I could probably pull off wearing the 41mm 15500ST. I love the bracelet and the screws in the bezel. I'd probably go for the black dial.
That said, if I were in the market for one, I'd probably try on both the 41mm and the 37mm, because you never know which will fit better when it wears so notoriously large.
It really is the perfect watch for your typical "team leader" type. Goes well with everything tasteless... should match up perfectly with that company lease Audi.
I love the Genta's design, but I absolutely agree with you
Damn 😭
It’s typical for someone who hate on the Royal Oak until they spend some time with it on the wrist.
Just bought a 15451 st, great looking watch for a smaller wrist. IMO the perfect size and profile would be 39mm 15202 though , but I agree that it cannot would worn as a daily beater watch but man it looks good.
Jenni, I think that a watch you’d like for about half the price with much more scratch resistant metal to assuage your concerns about everyday wear would be the Chopard Alpine Eagle Eye. It’s very fine and the dial is fascinating.
Although I could never justify spending such an amount on a watch, if I ever did it would be this Royal Oak (over anything else). It just looks very cool to me. In the real world, I'll be buying a Casioak.
It's $18k lol, don't pay the idiot tax
@Jenni AP released last year a 34mm RO Automatic, it is beautiful and is big statment targeted at the growing female watch market! Would be amazing if you could review it!
Interesting take on such a classic. When I eventually pick up mine, I'll have to remember it's delicate movement, as I intended for it to have plenty of wrist time.
So chic !
I adore the Silver dial
I adore everything about it, especially the bracelet. I have the same size wrist as you and would wear this or a 34. I recently found a really cool 37 mm RO offshore chrono and sent it to AP for a full service and well you were 💯 on that point.
Great vid. Im a regular size fella, and have owned both the 15450st and now the 15400st. I really tried, but in the end the 37mm for a dude was just too small. 41mm is 🔥 and it has presence, but in no way too big. (Unlike a 44mm RO offshore which you have to be a monster to wear)
@jenni elli thank you for covering one of my favourites, 37mm is really good for smaller wrists and ... you have a really cute way of speaking the model numbers :)
Love the look, and I would definitely wear the 37mm (prob not 34mm) but overall I wouldn't buy one for the $. For a sports watch would want something more robust, higher WR etc. VC oversea probably.
I'm partial to the Overseas myself; same general style, price, and level of external finishing, but far less "arrogantly edgy" as you aptly stated. Plus, the movement on the Overseas is finished to a much higher level, with all bevels mirror-polished by hand.
Have a 17cm wrist and the 41mm 15500 fits perfectly. To those looking to buy a Royal Oak, these watches scratch VERY EASILY. Gotta be delicate with them (despite them being stainless steel). The first scratch hurts the most…
The tappisirie dial reminds me of an industrial tile like a nurses station at a hospital. Or a gymnasium.
I like the blue 14790 the most. The dial layout is perfect and the case is very thin.
Thank you for a great review🙏. I love the AP Royal Oak😊
I just visited your sponsor, Chronext - here's a recommendation for them - post better quality photos of their watches - they're very grainy.
Great video, I own the 15550 and I personally think it is an everyday wear. Yes I would not wear it swimming but everything else is it is a wear.
Love this watch and size! Currently on the wait list :)
Hey! Do you have any tips? I’d love to know because both my father and I are interested in purchasing a 37mm AP Royal Oak. I just don’t want to fly out of state for no reason. Are there any key words to say? Was it a simple process? I really need advice because we’re ready to get on the list right now. Thank you
@@Yinyang1277 I got mine earlier this year, had to wait for a year and visited the boutique thrice before I got the call. DOnt expect to walk in and walk out with a watch.
@@abaan1010 Understandable thanks for the reply. So essentially walk in and dress nice then explain the watch you're interested in. Make a deposit then walk out and visit that boutique a couple and or a few times to kind of make sure they take you more seriously? Trust me im expecting to wait a year tbh, but I just dont want to for example fly there with my dad. Go to the boutique even fly there a couple more times then wait a year just to find out they never put me in the system because I heard Rolex has done that to customers and I really dont want that to happen with AP because that alone will stop me from purchasing one if they will be that disrespectful to customers who can purchase their watch now. I just want to make sure everything is smooth. Do you think it matters what boutique I go to? Sorry its just I have my Omega seamaster and im 21, but my first real super luxury watch I want to be is an AP I just dont know if they will take me serious enough so I want to make sure my image is proper.
I just realised that the price listed on AP website is a third of what someone at Chrono24 is currently asking for. DAMN
how long do you need to wait?
Any word yet a year later?
I rotate my 15400 as a daily and yes, the bracelet is a scratch magnet. In which the scratches are amplified if the light hits it just right.
I love this review. It's the most negative review I've probably ever seen on youtube, but couched so delicately. You plainly leave out the clues, which is appreciated. Cheers.
I would definitely go for the smaller 37 or 38 mm versions
i have a 8.75-9" wrist and i would totally get the 37mm royal oak...i wear the 36mm Palm Motif
As a girl, I am always super pleased over more reasonably sized automatic watches being released. I know I’m not exes like APs target exactly market but as a collector I’m still grateful.
I also think the Royal Oak is a bit too harsh style wise. It’s just a bit too 70s for my taste.
Beautiful watches, the price tag is absolutely insane however.
I have the 15450 with the blue dial and its stunning. I have small wrists so its perfect for me.
Hi Jenni, Amazing video. Love the watch but i still think 20k + for a full stainless steel 3 hand watch is astronomical. You also forgot to mention the movement is JLC based.. which is a good thing but i would expect a fully in house movement at this price point from a watch within the holy trinity. 😉 Do you agree? Take care and keep it up.
An absolutely beautiful watch in my opinion. If I could afford one (and I really mean afford one - servicing etc.) it would definitely be a daily wearer for me. It's a watch and is meant to be worn. I would be happy to wear the 37mm, have a 36mm Rolex Explorer....... 2006, before the 'investors hijacked the market. Unfortunately, I can't afford one. Ah well........! Thanks for the great review Jenni.
I have the 15450 blue dial and love it but I wouldn't wear daily for reason you stated in your review. Love the videos. Keep them coming
No disrespect, but not a whole watch for the money. Great review, as always.
Jenni was dealing with one aspect and not offering a full review!!
@@BobMuir100 In her own words. It was a review. And a good one.
1. How it wears/size, diameter and lug to lug measurements on male and female versions. Caliber and date complication position.
2.Finishing related to price. Bezel, bracelet, clasp and Dial details.
3.Daily wear.
Movement details and caseback + suitable or not for shooting and swimming, etc. Too fancy to wear on a daily basis. Too industrial...
And finally, in her own words at 7:22 " that concludes my review of the Ap Royal Oak"
But it doesn't ends there ... more considerations ... just watch, Sir... it was a review. But I didn't call it "full review". You did. And as always, I enjoyed the video.
@@Lawrence64 : Gosh desperate to prove a point or what? OK well if you can watch Jenny’s video on the piece and make your declaration then I remain surprised , wearability was the subject on the item and made very clear at the start. Now how a watch wears isn’t just about a single aspect, as Jenni made clear, so yes many parts were mentioned but in the way they added to or distracted from the wearing of the watch.
Not rocket science? Maybe you need to watch more videos as you sound like a newbie (which we all were) or you are an inverted snob who will always be down on high end watches.
Please don’t reply without a new major point as I am too busy to maintain a string such as this. Leave it that we see it differently.
Enjoy watches
Bob
@@BobMuir100 You say you’re too busy for this yet are arguing about absolutely nothing? Are you not happy she had some criticisms about the RO?
She also covered movement, WR, finishing, price, etc. Didn’t know there was a Committee of Review Snobs that decide what’s a watch review and what isn’t.
@@nintendokings I wish people would READ. Not close to what I said in either post. Again too busy for this unless you have a NEW MAJOR point to add.
Yep, the AP RO is sort of a Cartier "Love Bracelet" of a watch, it's a mixed bag and not at all practical in comparison to so much else that is, the Aquanaut for example has some of the same vibe but with non of the problems. And thing is the RO wasn't originally intended to be a gilt-complex, it's almost a joke now, and for most people it will be.
Movement complaint seems questionable. They did put the same movement into Offshore models which where supposed to be (truly) rugged sportswatches. So either AP is sure that this movement can take a beating, or AP simply does not have true ‘beater’ watches.
Size. RO does have lugs that ‘show’ the direction for the bracelet. So when bracelet does not fully embrace the wrist and sticks out - that isn’t looking great. But in the same way if a smaller version on a bigger wrist has bracelet pointing too outwards without following the line of the lugs - it also isn’t looking great at all. 41 mm RO on a 16,5-17 cm wrist looks very natural, bracelet follows the lugs and watch fits nicely to the wrist. So my guess smaller watch would look OK from upfront view, but from a wearers view one would always see that odd shaping of lugs and bracelet. So IMO 39 (and smaller) versions are for really small wrists, while 41, no matter how many people label it as a baby Offshore, pancake or whatever, is actually a good option for a medium wrist. And for the bigger wrist not even all Offshores would fit naturally.
Bark and Jack just reviewed this watch and found some of the same issues.
Interesting Jenni, good review and very good spin with making it about one aspect (pretty much) that’s wearing it!
That of course is what we are going actually do after all! With an 8’5” wrist I have no issue with wearing 36cm to 50cm all seem to be ok, although 40cms is my sweet spot. Interesting about lug to lug I will be measuring some watches later.
My early watches were of course 36 & 37cms as standard as that was only size made! My collection houses an additional 3 vintage pieces of 36cm (Otis, Mondial and Timex) that I love!
I hope AP sent you a Royal Oak after they viewed this!!! Lol -;)
Bob
England
Just got a similar one with diamond bezel. A Stunning piece, did not want to take it off.
Great wrist presence and the way the bracelet looks 👍
I’m waiting for the 15500. I have a 7 inch wrist, so I can pull off the larger size. It’s crazy the wait list, just as bad as Rolex sports models. Ideally, I want the boutique exclusive blue dial but the salesperson told me it is impossible. Hope to get the black dial within a year if I’m lucky.
I got a 16.5cm wrist, and frankly it fits perfectly! I got a blue dial version and it wears like a Rolex Daytona or Yatchmaster 40mm. The design is second to none, but personally I would not wear it to go for a swim, but I would and have done so with the Daytona and Yatcmaster. It is just another level of class compares to Rolex stainless steel models I suppose.
How long did you have to wait to get one? What are the waiting lists like compared to the Rolex GMT II for example?
@@solefreak2 I didn't get my blue 37mm from retail, I bought it through a dealer for just under £20k last year. Although two years ago, I was offered the ruthenium-toned/grey dial, but I didn't take it. Kicking myself now:( P.S. The blue 37mm RO is now rarer than a Rolex Daytona - you can see that in Chrono24, therefore Rolex GMT II is not comparable.
@@jamiesieu801 My brother has a good relationship with our local AP boutique and has a 37mm blue dial on request for me. Not sure how long it will take before I get it but rest assured, we will have one at retail.
Enjoyed the video! What kind of lens do you use for getting those close up shots?
14550? Is that different from the 15450 or just a typo? I personally would buy the 37mm.
Ahh that’s a typo! In German we say „five and forty“ when we mean 54 😅
@@JenniElle Glad my OCD (and the fact I love this model) could help. Although I think you’re right, it would soon look a lot less ‘precise’ and angular. I could never really enjoy this so thanks for saving me £20k 😉
@@faisalingalong I can confirm I wear AP RO daily - even the same reference and for me it definitely is a daily wearer. Of course it has some sctraches now, got a little vingate vibe but lost none of its charm.
@@JenniElle hate to be a stickler but I’m sure when you mean 54 you would say in German “vier und fünfzig” (four and fifty) right? It’s funny how it’s even confusing when you try to correct yourself! (Welcome to the human race haha)
@@Adam-xc1xm That’s what I was afraid of. Thanks (for nothing 😆)
Oh boy, your wrists look so cute with these 41mm watches on 😁😅
Love your reviews and your perspective, thank you!
This watch is drop dead gorgeous, yikes!
I’m not an AP fan at all but this gem here is stunning!
You are correct my sweet spot is 37 to 39 but I can wear a 42 if as you say the lug to lug is in the 40 s
My theory is these are so costly that they assume their market is athletes especially in the US football players who are many times huge guys
There is a compromise compared to the 15202 in that it's thicker, so the balance of it is quite different.
Got the call for a 15450st blue! So happy, one week left and then I will pick it up 🔥
How long you waited? Did you need to purchase other watches first?
@@aaron4857BLRO 7 month, no purchase history. I think I was very lucky.
@@nw9592 Thank you. Congratulations.
Most beautiful watch I know. Great Gerald Genta.
went to a store yesterday just to have a look saw something in the distance that looked like an ap turned out to be a sublet classic but tried the 38mm regular and 42mm black magic version gotta say even tho I love the look of the 42 Blackmagic I can see why I would go for a 37/38mm watch as its just a better fit for small wrists
I like how Jenny responds to each and every comment?
Hahah I love the hand-drawn red lines to show lug to lug vs case diameter
Great review Jenni.
I’m totally with you, although I completely respect the Royal Oak I find the industrial/brutalist styling just a bit too harsh for my taste. The smaller size does make it seem a bit softer though and that dial is so intricate and detailed under macro.
Funny enough the larger Royal Oak Offshore has softer lines despite its size and target market.
Good day Jenni, thank you for making these awesome vids! :)
Would you be able to cover on vintage watches like the Cartier CPCP tortue monopoussoir someday?
Great review! Jenni Love this reference and would personally wear this over the 15400/15500 series. Also If im not mistaken I think this ref is the 15450st not 14550st :) Cheers, Josh
Well done Jenni 🎉🎉🎉👌👌👌
Have the same watch! I absolutely love it!
Jenni, what do you think about the MLAikon as a (much) lower alternative to the Royal Oak?
Jenni, I just received my steel VC blue overseas. Can you review it as a comparison in upcoming video? I think VC is underrated.
Yeah, Adrian at B&J has made similar points, its not really a sports watch at all, the Naughty IS, or was in 5711 form, shock resistant, 150 WR and doesnt it hack? And have a quick set date? Which the flipping R O doesn't, like a bloody vostock
Thank you. Did you ever speak about Longines? I would like to see a video about them. :)
This is the only rep I'd buy, because I love this design so much. But I stick to my Seiko SNXS79K at the moment.
Great finishing but it's just disappointing how an iconic watch from the so called trinity doesn't have a quick set date. It's the same shortcoming of how the Vacheron Constantin Overseas doesn't have a hacking seconds feature.
Brilliant video, my favourite watch
There are two schools of thought when it comes to the APRO water resistance: A) if you respect the maison, then trust their judgment. If AP tells you that it's 50m WR, then trust that it's truly 50m of WR. The AP concierge will tell you that the watch is swimmable; that should be good enough. And, B) why would you ever take ANY luxury watch swimming or diving? Even if the risk of water ingress is minimal, the consequences - should it happen - are regrettable. This is what G-Shock watches exist for.
Great insight. I would like to hear more about the movement.
What an insightful video. 👏
Only 37mm i'd consider would be the two tone. For my personal taste AP two tone is the best looking two tone out there
Hi, what watch are you wearing in the vid ?
Grtz, Peter
Nice review, Jenni! Do most luxury watches have more delicate movements than, for example, a Seiko workhorse like the 4R36/NH36? I always thought that most mechanical movements are equally resistant to shock and sports because most have their own anti-shock systems. Would you consider Zenith as being less "delicate?"