How This Roofing Company Is Taking On Tesla’s Solar Roof
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- GAF Energy is taking on Tesla with the release of its new solar shingles. While the concept of solar shingles that blend in seamlessly with a regular roof has been around for decades, higher costs and lower efficiency and reliability as compared with traditional solar panels have prevented the product from taking off. But GAF Energy is the sister company to GAF, one of the largest roofing manufacturers in the world. And it believes that its deep ties to the roofing industry have allowed it to design a cost-competitive solar roof product that’s ready for the masses.
CLARIFICATION 1/5/22: At 11:02 in the video, there is a comparison made that needs clarification. The video states, “Given the GAF shingle’s dimensions and its 45 watt rating, it would produce, at maximum, 5.96 watts per square foot.” However, because of the way GAF Energy’s shingles overlap on the roof, 56% of each shingle is made up of non-solar material. If you consider the efficiency of only the active solar cells, GAF Energy's shingle produces 14.29 watts per square foot, which the company says would be on par with the efficiency of Tesla’s shingle.
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How This Roofing Company Is Taking On Tesla’s Solar Roof
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This panel can put out close to 100 watts th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
I own a 13 kw solar system. I think panels do not distract on aesthetics of the home. I have limited roof space. Many of my panels are 360 watts. The battery storage really saves money with night power, outages, and assisting with charging EV’s. In Hawaii I save $600/month on gas and home electricity.
You save more than I typically spend a month on gas/electricity.
@Abď probably like $30k
Yes they do! It looks horrible!
@@miriamgalan1810 Your opinion does not matter.
$600/MONTH "saved"? Must be a nice house in Hawaii! My electricity bills might be $100/month w/hotter summers and colder winters here in MD. Yeah, it's a townhouse but the numbers are out of whack. Electricity/gas cost 2 or 3x as much?
I bought a new home in the desert. The builder put solar on and it was included in the price of the home. I upgraded another 3K dollars. My electric bill was 15 dollars per month in the summer running an air conditioner. So happy with my solar panels. I think the ones GAF Energy have look good. In the long run, I hope they do really well. They may want to build an alliance with home builders in states where solar is mandated on all new builds.
What manufacturer did you go with ?
You know your just paying for it over the life of the loan. They become less efficient over time
@@usadaytrader let alone breaking down the cost it is still better, nobody is implying that the low monthly energy bills = 100% savings as you do have to factor in the cost of ownership on the solar panels of course.
But also the fact that it’s renewable energy. Also that you can have a power bank and store it and have energy during power outages.
Pretty useful tech. Your talking about cost and depreciation from a phone/tablet/computer which will decline as fast and cost easily $1k and easily upwards.
@@justinstevenson2061 it still doesn't pencil out
Solar tiles or panels should be mandatory on every new home, period.
Why are people so centered in esthetics!? Regular solar panels are strong, very cheap and super efficient.
Yah like what's wrong with having a regular panel on your roof...I not like you'll be sleeping on the roof 🤷🏿♂️
Local man discovers others care about appearance
Some people want better aesthetics, some want higher efficiency, or greater total system power. The best products will try to achieve best in class in every metric, but reality often limits that. Nothing wrong with targeting a product to be the best in one customer want/metric if the target market is large enough
I think in the end, if it can actually replace your regular shingles, that’s a cost saving so you don’t have to buy them anymore.
@@colonelbanditsix it’s not like it really matters but the real preoccupations should be with storage battery or insulation of the house.
I personally think regular solar panels also look good. Quite frankly I think its a huge show off in my area
Cuter than a Prius
@MrGriff305 have you not seen v3 tesla solar roofs? I have one and it's the most beautiful roof it makes clay roofs look like relics. Most people don't have any idea and once I tell them they are blown away.
@MrGriff305 the gafs? Yeah they are ugly once they figure our how to make those tiles "floating" and hide the cords underneath they have a good product
@HunterBidensCrackPipe frankly these solar shingles are untested, meanwhile regular shingles are. You want a leaky roof?
Good to know if the country collapse I’ll know which house to go to cause Ik who has solar panels
We just had the Tesla solar roof installed (15.1 kW system with 2 Powerwall+ batteries) and the Tesla installation team completed this work in just over 4 days! Great job by the team. With the federal solar discount the price came out to $52.5k which was extremely competitive. Great product and I love to see some solid competitors enter this space! Good luck to all and lets build a more sustainable future together!
That's crazy expensive for solar
@ 2 batteries
@@Scottieb1031 Batteries don't move the numbers that high. It's just very very expensive
@ literally over one third of the price
@@Scottieb1031 You are missing my point.
$52k for solar + batteries is crazy. That's about triple numbers I've been quoted for solar + batteries. Crazy levels of energy consumption or total overkill
I had solar panels installed on my house and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
Wow CNBC. Did i just watch a 15min ad for a GAF?
Yes
😂
I'm just glad people are working on this. Every new tech has a rough start. Imagine the world in 2050. But the future is made and not waited on.
In the meantime, I'll take rack solar when I can afford it because it is just an ease of mind to remove and repair and I don't mind the looks at all. In fact, it looks cool and futuristic to me. I smile whenever I see a solar rack on any roof and it makes me happy.
Agreed, when I look at how rapidly renewable energy is being deployed in my area I’m amazed. I personally can’t wait to buy my own place and install solar.
I’ve run through the numbers a million times and know the exact size of system I need…just need a house to put it on hahaha.
The world in 2050 won't longer need solar. The Transition (apocalypse for those of a religious incline) would have been consumated and a new type of non-contaminating source of energy will be employed across the globe.
The sad part of course is that most of the old world (aka 'us") would be gone.
You both need to do your research. I'll be surprised if there's a world in 2050. The climate change we've already induced is irreversible.
@@jeremyjackson7429 you want to install solar now or even better in the past. And I am not sure more efficient panels matters, since current system can easily reduce ones power usage for a year to almost zero. The power companies are seeing people starting to decrease their home consumption. So they are adding additional fees and everything else they can get pushed through legislatures. Some these will only impact new install. Already they limit the amount they will buy back in many states.
@@JBoy340a That's why in the future there will be no power companies except for cities. There will be small community owned grids or people will use cheap solar and batteries to go off grids. And the power companies are terrified of it because they're seeing it slowly happen. And yet you have morons say power companies and their grid can't handle EVs. They have no idea how power companies are praying for them. It's their only hope of extending their stay.
I think you're wrong at 11:01. You're factoring in the entire panel even though most of the top part of it is covered up by the previous panel. Looking at the man holding the panel at 11:21, we can determine that the height of the actual photovoltaic portion is less than half, so about 7 inches, and the width needs to have about 3 inches removed from the right side. Rough math shows that the panel would produce about 10.1 watts of power/sq. ft and not ~6 watts.
I've had solar panels for over 10 years . I wouldn't put them on the roof . A frame in the yard is better . They remain cooler so more efficient . Easier to clean and they do need cleaned from time to time . Just maintenance and troubleshooting is easier on the ground . If you have the room keep them bolted to a frame high enough to mow under .
unless they can beat a shingled roof plus rack mounted in price, i think their product will fail. they are not in the same market as tesla solar. Tesla is about roof appearance, while GAFs looks just as bad a roof mounted. So they are competing against roof mounted, not Tesla.
Ya, "this has been around since 1970s" shows pictures of flimsy and mismatched solar panels ingressed into a roof. Literally lacks the 2 benefits of Tesla solar roof (durability and looks) so obviously none of it caught on. Not saying they are completely trash, but probably should just be compared to normal solar roofs.
Also GAF power density seems to be trash..... so ya not so great. add on you are only saving 10k to go from a higher power output and tile roof to shingle roof. Doesn't seem to good for them. Hopefully they can drop the price given how low the material cost of them seems to be
They should conduct a research on who cares about appearance
@@ntb3884 I think the other thing might be the customer experience. I have heard horror stories about how great Tesla is on the sales side, and on support after the installation has gone live, but that the in between part is a nightmare. If GAF can get their solar shingle solution up in a day or two, and have excellent support for customers throughout the process, they might win over a huge customer base. Tesla solar roof is like their vehicles: high end and high price. GAF solar shingles might be the Nissan Leaf of the industry, if they can get their pricing right, and make them more affordable for the masses.
The problem for GAF is they are targetting composite shingle roofs customers. And composite shingle roofs are relatively cheap compared to alternatives like tile. Tesla targeted homes with tile roofs which are expensive with their SolarRoof product. The price of our Solar Roof was less than the price of a replacement tile roof with solar panels.
Asphalt shingles are used in over 80% of US roofing projects, so I fail to see how this is a problem for GAF... They're targeting what most of us use. Tiles are used in ~5% of US roofs. What you're basically saying is that Tesla's targeting wealthy people. Plus, I'd honestly be shocked if 90%+ of the people buying the Tesla solar roof aren't Tesla shareholders. Why someone would risk their own homes for another one of Musk's experiments is beyond me. The really silly thing is that Tesla's expensive solar roof products are getting larger subsidies simply for the fact that they cost more. Why the subsidy isn't based on output, rather than a set percentage on cost is anyone's guess. Corruption sounds about right though. So to you my friend, I say I'm glad I could help you pay for that fancy new roof.
@@updlate4756 so the guy who went from college student to world’s richest man in 25 years is not innovative? Targeting upper end roof installations is smart. Customers can pay more for features. Then you can work on driving costs out as you learn more about the tech. These benefits low priced buyers as the tech becomes a commodity item.
@@updlate4756 you failed to notice that Tesla roof gives 17 kWh per square foot, while GFA 6 kWh. Of course the solar panel gives a bit more still, it makes sense that if Tesla solar gives three times the output of GFA and comparing to ordinary solar panels which give even more output, Tesla solar roof covers entire roof area, which isn't the case for GFA nor for ordinary panels. I would personally prefer Tesla, if it were available in my country.
Why did you use the word 'our'?
@@JBoy340a But that is not how he is personally marketing them. Musk never comes out and says Tesla products are just for wealthy people, when they objectively are. Where is the 35k Model 3? Abandoned long ago when they aren't seeing profit margins to boost stock prices. Tesla is niche and will continue to be so, they don't seem to have the appetite for mass market low profit margin products.
Here's why I could prefer these over panels. I don't want the additional perforations from rack mounts. The chance of leaks with mounts is higher than without them. Yes, "just get a good installer" can improve chances, but it's not a guarantee. And having known of cases locally of some pretty bad leaks from rack mounts (yes, I know many don't have problems) I would very much be interested in a product that goes on the decking like standard shingles if they have no higher chance of leaks than standard shingles.
The first job of any roof is to keep out the elements. Solar is secondary. Not willing to compromise one whit on the primary purpose of a roof for any secondary function.
You don't have that issue with standing seam metal roofs, the racking system simply attached to the standing seam, no perforations.
@@fuckthisksksjjksdfjd Yes, that's the one scenario where I would feel comfortable with rack mount is with a standing seam metal roof where it could clamp on the seams. Don't care for the aesthetic of the standing seam roofs so that would be the biggest hurdle :)
Interesting points. I’ll have to keep them in mind when I eventually own a home and am getting quotes.
People be kicking themselves in a couple of weeks for refusing to invest in Stocks or Crypto.
Yes it is but it's risky to do it yourself if you are inexperienced go get yourself someone good or you could look up *Nancy* *Lynn* *Lewis* on the internet.
Wow! I know Nancy. Met her sometime ago here in North Carolina during a fundraiser. Great speaker, full of humor and rhetorics too…”Mrs buy the dip “. Lol
I remember her from Fenner & Smith great woman.
@@vargaskenneth8837 Living off Uranium stocks currently. It's fun
@@michaelchad5241 Heard pretty much amazing testimonies about her, how do I get in touch with her?
Wow this company must've paid you a lot of money for this commercial disguised as a report.
This is badass. I used to roof and know GAF makes good products and will be around for a long time. As the tech advances this is going to just get better and better. Totally key to be able to install with regular roofing tools by real roofers that already know how to properly seal a roof.
The only problem is they don't have the brand recognition like Tesla - so it'll be more difficult for solar to take off unless companies partner with names like Apple, Microsoft, Meta, or Amazon.
I am roofing company owner and yes definitely I will offer the product to our customers ! Just like a car, the customer is who decide which panel is going to use , right after analyzing what's the pro and cons of own it.
Do you think someone with a perfectly good 5 year old roof would consider this product?
@@zunedog31 The cost to replace a recently purchased roof makes no sense.
These products are for new roofs or homes who needs the roofing replaced
You right folks , this is going to fit on new projects or replacement , or perfectly for those who just want to get the system , exactly like when you have a good perfect 2020 car but wants the 2022 model
A year later I'm curious how did this work out for you? What's the avg cost for a roof like this under your business?
It's a good idea for old roofs , but I would prefer Teslas roof for new buildings
agreed but there's just too many defects and problems with tesla's solar roof so it's not worth it
@@halozhelos2417 this is a new product , it takes some time ,but you see the Tesla roof can absorb more energy .
@@elios633 u r not getting my point, tesla solar roof have more energy however, it has extremely low efficiency and high cost.
low efficiency due to the fact tht it has too many defects for such an expensive product. u have to consider from all sorts of POV
@@halozhelos2417 RAIP is right. You have to wait at least 15 to 20 yrs to see if it's reliable.
@@lancetruong4957 agree but again u all r missing my point, wht I'm trying to say is tht Tesla solar roof has too many defects for such an expensivr product. So it has very low efficiency and reliability.
However, thr solar roof in this video might produce lower energy but has higher efficiency and reliability compared to Tesla's solar roof.
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Im interested to know which company will the warranty be listed under? If its the parent company then great. But if its the subsidiary, can they close shop if this proves unsuccessful and not honor the warranty?
What happens when your roof needs replacing? Can they be removed and added to the new roof?
My families 1,800sqft was quoted $50k for a turn key photovoltaic system that would cover 100% of the electric bill. After some research, and being an electronics technician, I was able to buy the correct system for $13k cash delivered to our home and I installed it.
Seems like a infomercial. Where’s the ticker?
Interesting stuff. Can't wait to see what the future holds. 💪😃
The bane of rooftop solar has been that roofers aren't electricians and electricians aren't roofers -- and you don't want either trying to pretend to be the other. LIkewise, solar panels aren't cost-effective water management devices and complicate the water management system, especially when it needs to be replaced.
This product is a big step forward.
Question: Can these panels be easily removed and replaced when the roof reaches the end of it's life? What's the procedure if a solar panel needs to be removed for a repair before the end of the roof's life?
The company offers the service to replace or deinstall when needed
@@NoName-ei5ui Thanks!
We plan on redoing our roof and installing solar in the next few years. I would definitely consider this system.
CLARIFICATION 1/5/22: At 11:02 in the video, there is a comparison made that needs clarification. The video states, “Given the GAF shingle’s dimensions and its 45 watt rating, it would produce, at maximum, 5.96 watts per square foot.” However, because of the way GAF Energy’s shingles overlap on the roof, 56% of each shingle is made up of non-solar material. If you consider the efficiency of only the active solar cells, GAF Energy's shingle produces 14.29 watts per square foot, which the company says would be on par with the efficiency of Tesla’s shingle.
Hahaha no flipping way…these shingles are a joke!
Strong point from A-DaM! I'm fully convinced by the complete absence of facts in his reply.
For those of us in the Snowbelt parts of the United States and Canada, would the panels survive icing conditions and the extreme swings in temperatures?
The graphic at 5:48 tells you all you need to know...
Keep in mind Tesla doesn't just sell solar roofs, they sell regular solar panels as well. Tesla is targeting both traditional panels and highly integrated tiles that blend in, these companies seem to be targeting the middle ground. They are different niches, not competing just yet.
Keep in mind that Tesla is successful from selling hype to fanboys and doesn’t deliver on its promises
@@KandaEzana could you please short them then?
@@graysonsmith7031 The time will come. It always does eventually. The house of cards always falls
@@KandaEzana sounds like nothing but wishful thinking but alright.
People have been trying to cancel musk for years and years and years, and here he is , the richest man on the planet.
Keep wishing tho , that will still never happen.
lol so they debuted their shingle Jan 3 2022? The day this "video" was uploaded? lol this is a paid advertisement.
I have been waiting for this tech to be affordable, it seems I will never be able to have it😪
You could get a Tesla model x (Long range) at a very cheap price in our car audition.
@@bobbystyles2457 then pay 20k when thr battery fails.
Used Teslas are a very risky and poor investment.
Yeah Elon seemed to think what’s holding back solar roof was the look, but it’s the price! Supposedly solar cost is shrinking but the past 10 years I keep checking in on solar installers and solar of all types still way too expensive.
not with inflation
@@gj1234567899999 yes...me too, I have been checking the prices. Prices keep going up😪
Several years ago I read about a solar tile made in Italy that made electricity and hot water. Does anyone know more about it ?
I really hope GAF is able to deliver a good long term solar solution, the world needs it. Having said that, while I found this video to be fairly comprehensive, I would have liked to have heard how GAF compares to Tesla in extreme weather like hail. I realize that Tesla roofs are way more expensive, and I realize that it is very new, but the GAF roof is very new also. I have seen videos where a Tesla panel has been hit with a hammer repeatedly and remained intact and according to at least one builder video I saw, if one does break the time to repair is very small.
Bashing Tesla is quite silly ... I hope this works ... but do it off your own back without the negative narrative of other players
Amen to that.
Tesla's whole model is bashing others... Why is bashing the company that claims to have leadership not kosher?
@@usazar how does Tesla bash their competitors?
My main concern would be ease of repair / replacement. I suspect it is a lot easier to replace a rack mounted panel that has been damaged by hail than their on-roof shingle. The rack mount just seems simpler. Why over-complicate things for aesthetics. It's just a roof!
A few dozen screws versus just some shingles. Idk. And anesthetics do matter.
Hail damage on shingles is probably worse than on panels
It rarely rains in my region. Plenty of sun year around.
Those shingles look even worse than solar panels lmao
DOW chemical tried this several years ago and the product has and is failing miserably. What is different here? Wind rating?
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70+ watts on 2/3rds the size for Tesla compared to GAF, how does that work?
I was recently informed by a GAF solar shingle installer that I must have my entire roof shingled when this product is used or else GAF could not offer a warranty.
This was a problem for me because only 6 months ago I had one side of my house re-roofed (Owens-Corning) due to leaks, but now that I am ready for solar I would be required to re-roof that side again - only this time with GAF - before I could get a warranty with the GAF solar shingles. It's all-or-nothing with GAF.
I called GAF - they referred me to their website to search for a contractor - not one of the 20 "master Elite contractors" knows anything about Solar Shingles - Additionally not one of the 20 installers near me in NJ can even do solar panels. Another example of how companies marketing and PR departments are way ahead of their actual ability to sell or install the vapor products they dream up
June 2022, not even available in Michigan.
Good on them on innovating in this space but seriously those GAF panels don't look aesthetically better at all.
The 'faux' tiles were the mistake. The connections in a larger solar panel connected to others can be complex and expensive. It is more than just 'line in, line out.'
Long vinyl panels similar in shape and installation as sheet metal would not only simplify these connections and lower price, but roofing companies would already be familiar with most of the install.
They should use a drone to 3D scan the roof or high-res Lidar
Then pre-made pieces in factory can be created to the specifications of the roof and then just use a crane to install it
After removing and waterproofing the roof and shingles that was there prior
Anyone know where the CES 2022 Best of Innovation Smart Cities quote comes from? Being this was posted on January 3, 2022 and CES 2022 doesn't start until January 5, 2022.
It comes...from the future!?
What's the tensile strength? How do they compare in extreme climate heat damage, hail impact heavy snow load, consistent heavy rains waterproofing? Warranty comparisons? Out of pocket estimated service, average service costs?
The issue with this is that the consumer assumes all the risk. I as a homeowner would like to know pricing, what's the warranty, does it require a maintenance contract. Also in Florida how will it effect my Insurance premium as it will be very costly to replace should a hurricane rip off the roof or damage. There are still roofs in Miami with tarps that were damaged in 2018 from hurricane Irma so I could just imagine the delay with this new technology.
This is also not taking into consideration the current supply chain shortages that's impacting all industries.
Would love to do a solar installation but every site shows no ROI. Even with two electric cars, it's cheaper to just use the grid.
These companies are not dealing with the main reason panels are not being snapped up by businesses and consumers around the world. And that is COST, far to expensive for most people.
Wrong. Solar energy is increasingly the cheapest installed energy, the reason it isn't being snapped up is because we allow fossil users to not pay the real cost of their consumption.
@@haught7576 Where do you think the solar and all the other tax credits come from? They come from grid users energy bills, grid electric bills are double because of all government programs to give someone else so called free rebates on a furnace, A/C, solar, water heater, EV vehicles, new or replaced intersection poles and lighting, or a poor person who can't afford their utility bill anymore. All these fees, taxes and environmental fallacies are hidden in our utility bill. True cost my A...S...S
@@jennifergarrigan3986 you have no idea what you are talking about, those tax credits save money in the long term by conserving energy and reducing emissions. Do some independent research on the cost of carbon, there is no glory in ignorance.
How do the GAF solar shingles hold up with errant golf balls and hail storms.
This one is so much better design, to make it easier and familiar to install makes it so much better
How will it fare in a superstorm or a catergory 5 hurricane is something that should be worked on, too?
What solar cells are they using?!? Cigs or fragile silicon???
I'm looking at getting a tesla solar roof next year but what happens when you have no sun for days or if Bill Gates keeps spraying his geo-engeneering which solar won't work but my question is why don't you integrate windmills of some sort for power.
I’m skeptical about this product. I have traditional solar panels on my roof and I don’t care how they look. They just work so what’s the big fuss on ascetics?
Cool. They’ll hire a factory in China to manufacture it and they will copy it and then you can buy it on alibaba and staple it on yourself.
I’m happy for all the solar we can get, but this add-on look GAF roof looks awkward. The Tesla looks so much better with continuous tiles.
How much are these going to save you in Winter when energy demand and prices soar?
This video sounds like an add for GAF
Instead of paying electricity bill, people paying solar company monthly. Still sounds like a scam 😂
These tiles would be a benefit to houses under coverture of an HOA. I asked my HOA about solar panels and they said "as long as they cannot be seen from the street". I'll eventually get the older style panels and have them mounted starting from the center to the rear of the roof.
That’s a bummer that the HOA doesn’t want them seen from the street. Hopefully they change their tune in the next few years.
In the meantime, I hope your panels still get enough sun and you don’t have to compromise efficiency!
@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet i think I'll be ok. I'll get plenty of sun cause i live in Florida and the sun rises in front of my house and sets in the rear of the house. 💪
I think that the HOA is limited on how it can restrict solar. If your house has direct sun from the street view, I don't think the HOA can disallow the panels. You would have to have a report of some sort that shows that you get most of your sunlight from the street side. My neighborhood has an HOA, and while most homes don't have street view panels, there are a few that do...and the main reason is probably that it faces the direction of most sunlight.
As being a house builder where always look for the newest products. I would love to know more about them and maybe even become an installer so if anyone could help that would be great thanks
Google is a great tool, lol
I got GAF on my roof. They rock!
You made a wrong choice..in couple of years you will see granules coming off GAF shingles.
You should have gone for Certainteed..their shingles are the best!
They are nailing pretty damn close to the panel...and how is the shingles physically 'glued' together or Iike normal shingles???
Innovation and competition is always good, it’s helps to creat improvements in products. Personally I feel the solar energy market has been very slow with innovations and making it available for everyone.
Kind of my feel here, don't know if it's worth it yet but....I like the competition here.
Why is it not possible to simply add a wider frame at top and bottom to allow for say 30mm overlap and lay ordinary modules as if they are large shingles??
If that becomes mainstream, it would be such a game changer for clean energy generation..
Can this withstand wind speeds typhoons?
11:00 "hard to see how it is more efficient" - it would be a lot easier to see which one is more efficient if you compare their performance at least 2-3 years in. One may degrade slower than the other.
A few years ago when Musk had the online estimator for a solar roof it said it would cost over $110,000 for the roof. I don't remember if it included the battery. This house is in sunny Florida and has a $100 to $200 monthly electric bill depending on the season. A normal architectural shingle roof estimate was $18k. At the time the solar roof cost was 1/3 of the house value.
You need to compare the cost of the roof + PV to the Tesla solar roof, not just the roof alone. Second of all asphalt shingles are the cheapest product on the market, there are far more expensive roofing products. Asphalt shingles also have a shorter life than a Tesla solar roof, so that also has to be factored in. Lastly most Tesla roofs don't cost $110k. It's like saying why is a Porsche is so expensive compared to a Chevy when both take you from A to B.
I wonder if these can be efficiently recycled at end of life, or do they go straight to the landfill?
Nice video.
Interesting but what about better solar cell technology such as thin film inside the shingles?
How will you clean them? They need to be cleaned weekly.
Very cool that it is made in the USA. Keep it up!
I love when cnbc makes these long advertisements
Ok but can they be recycled like normal solar panels?
I have 17kW solar panel system and I’ve noticed that on cloudy days my peak energy production surpasses the peak production from a fully sunny day by a large margin. My guess is the panels are much more efficient when they’re cool, followed by sudden exposure to sunlight. I believe solar technology need some sort of cooling and traditional solar panels have a gap between the panels and the roof. Solar shingles lay directly on the roof’s surface, so there’s not a gap (no cooling), therefore they’re less efficient and I’m sure they won’t last as long.
lightly Cloudy days can generate electricity from more panels. The soft light illuminates the whole roof and there are no shadows from trees, chimneys, etc. And you are correct about the panels being more efficient in cooler temps.
The Tesla solar roof will eventually be successful. I see $1.5 million homes going up all over the place. There are plenty of people who would tack on a hundred grand to have that roof. I also see Teslas all over around here.
I agree - I see tons of happy Tesla Solar customers with testimonials on TH-cam when I’ve searched. This GAF product seems like the one this segment says failed lol
There's something ironic about a bunch of people installing solar roofs and driving EVs so they can pat themselves on the back for their low carbon footprint... in their $1.5 million homes LOL.
I also see lots of homeless people.
@@regolith1350 Well, that is how they drive the price down. More demand creates increase in number of products which drives down the cost to produce them. That is how it has ALWAYS BEEN that way. Those rich folks help the less wealthy that way.
@@regolith1350 That's fine. The more they mass produce for customers, price will go down. That will benefit more people that are waiting for price to go down.
Seems like a solar rack is by far the best solution right now. More electricity generation, cheaper install cost, easier maintenance, better durability. Until prices drop a lot solar roof tiles will likely only be for rich people that want to feel better about themselves.
The GAF solar division is its own company within Standard. Meaning his claim about the warranty and Standards longevity is false. Unless the warranty for the solar shingles specifically states the parent company, Standard, will honor all claims for the duration of said warranty, the warranty is void when/if the solar division goes bankrupt.
PV installs are craaaazy expensive in the USA. For the equivalent size install in the EU, one would pay about half the price!
"Weeks to install Tesla roof". And yet there are tens of homeowner videos with 5-14 days installs, where solar install process takes 1-2 days, rest is fixing uneven/rotten wood.
Thanks to him everyone is jumping on board. I'll spend more if it's made in the USA.
It will be great when new homes are built complete with Tesla Solar tiles and a powerwall included.
More expensive tho
@@laudableplain4282 But if they can mass produce and become standard for new homes, then price would dramatically drop.
I am seeing more and more builders are now putting ev chargers in the parking of their under construction projects and selling it as a luxury feature. SO maybe soon solar roof will become the next luxury sell in the real estate market
It is well known that polycrystaline cells are better than crystalline cells, why gaf is not using them I don't understand. Also there are new cells developed which can develop electricity both from incident light and reflected light from the roof which is referred to as heat. Don't know why these companies don't do their research
@@lancetruong4957 true that
It's a fantastic idea but the tech just isn't ready yet. I can't wait until the day it is. I hope to purchase them in the future. Soo I totally support this company but realistically we have a long way to go.
Only comparing vs shingles is already messing with the numbers. Most new roofs nowadays are steel sheets at a small fraction of the cost.
They probably should have included "This video was sponsored by GAF Energy"
You can get a Tesla model x (Long range) at our car audition with our giveaway price
Well it's anywhere from £1.50p - £0.67p Per roof tile in the UK (You could probably find cheaper if you shopped about) Unless they can match that price or even better cheaper then it's going to be for those with a spare few quid in there pockets and not for everyone
HOW DID THEY MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT SOMETHING DEBUTED TODAY????
No info on the durability of GAF shingles?
Also these shingles weren’t covering the whole roof…
I'm sure Amazon will get in this business at some point definitely AT&T will get the leg up in the end.
2 years ago and still waiting
Guy was standing on it!! Wow
45w per panel ?
I don't mind doing it like "Roof as a Service". Install it for free and guarantee maintenance. You can take the electric power and feed it to the grid (or whatever) to make money, and pay me some rent from that. Only if someone can do it, I would say the technology is ready (otherwise it is not).
What's that laptop 2.25
Doesn’t the infrastructure bill or upcoming bills support subsidies for solar roofs?
I mean that would be a great investment for US congress