2022 Toyota Tundra | Hybrid Better Than Old V8?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- We drive the new 2022 Toyota Tundra iForce Max Hybrid to determine if this is a legit replacement for the old V8. We discuss the pros and cons and all of the technical detail of how the truck works. These big changes to the engine and platform make it closer to the new Land Cruiser in terms of design. Would you choose this over the Ford F150, RAM 1500 and, Chevy Silverado.
#tundra #toyota #hybrid
Index:
00:00 Intro
00:26 Interior Impressions and Technology
7:49 Mechanical Impressions
13:41 Drive
19:20 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Just imagine how many 4Runners they will sell when they give it a hybrid and interior refresh to match this tundra. My God
The new 4Runner and Tacoma will be just as good as the Tundra. Cant wait to see them.
Not a big fan of the 4runner, it feels like you're sitting on the floor with your knees up to your chest if you are over 6'1".
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. I'm 6'2" and have a new '22 4Runner TRD Pro. The seats are way too small. Hope the fix that with the next gen.
If they ever get back to an proper production, probably a lot, until this economic/ parts availability problem is fixed, not a lot at all.
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. same with tacoma
Needs an offical Eddie Bauer King Ranch Capstone 1794 Mike Sweers trim level to break $100,000 USD MSRP.
And add 20k "market adjustment" fee on top...
@@TermlessHGW plus a 6 month wait that turns into over a year.
Mega Ram T-Rex Tony Hawk Edition
L O L !
A TuRDle Edition will include a bed topper.
All the new Tundras at my local dealership are sold before they hit the lot. Been trying for months and this is the closest I've been able to get to a test drive. Really strongly appreciate it.
Have you tried showing up to the dealership wearing a suit and holding a briefcase full of beef n' cheddars?
Not just Tundras. Try buying a Highlander Hybrid, Sienna or Prius Prime.
I work at a toyota dealership. The only way to get one of these trucks (or really any car) is just to preorder. it sucks but it’s just the way it is now :/
It’s like that for nearly every car
You have to get on a waiting list.
5:50 Ah, I see you're preparing to ask the dealer how much this vehicle costs.
The dealer could have been at the 5:00 mark.
@@paulh6517 lol I didn't notice that the first time
I got my Capstone edition Tundra, and I'm getting all geared up for my maiden overlanding expedition to my local Lululemon. Wish me luck fellow adventurers.
So original..
Godspeed. Do a 2" lift on it just to be safe.
Take plenty of Pumpkin Spice lattes.
LewLewLeom 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh wait we live in 🤡🌎so this might not be a joke
Was that your capstone I saw waiting in line at Starbucks?
The hybird will help me save gas money when my wife and her boyfriend take the truck out, so I'd say it's better than the V8 in that regard.
Prayin for you brotha🙏🙏🙏
Uh....
🤣🤣🤣
And her boyfriend? Can you elaborate?
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Haha my god the mirror angle at 4:58 was genius 👍👍👍
holy crap, how did I miss that lol
i feel so much better that i wasn't the only one....
I brushed it off at first thinking it was some optical illusion, but damn that's funny
I'm just troubled by what appears to be a growing erection.
Holy shit 🤣
Dead serious video review...then he climbs into the back seat at 5:48. This why I come to this channel. Keep it up!
He pulled a Stewart from MadTV, if anyone remembers that bit…
@@robertk1049 "Look what I can do!"
Yeah... Just witness how enthusiastic he gets at the faux luxury elements @5:04....
The GPS destination at 6:19 is also a strip club lol
On another note, if one wants a different style of review to supplement this one, Truck King is currently running 2 Tundras from Tacoma, WA to the Arctic and posting daily videos. They don't offer the level of detail Mark and Jack do but it's interesting nonetheless.
I really appreciate the effort you put into your reviews and technical explanations. No-one does it better. Thank you.
If they weren't doing this, they'd be selling their bodies. At least we're keeping them off the streets, bros. Keep watching, for Jack's health, if anything.
As someone who is 6'9", this Tundra was the ideal choice for cabin size being accommodating to my size while still having room for others. I got my 1794 edition Saturday, and drove 4 passengers around incredibly comfortably, even with my seat all the way back. Also nice on my trim level was a knee back extender, that although it doesnt quite hit my knees, it definitely would for someone shorther than myself. For my arm length, I have zero issue reaching any of the navigating functions of the infotainment system. Hope this is useful for my taller fellow drivers. LOVE THIS TRUCK!
6'1" test drove one yesterday and it was amazing
Boggles my mind how you don’t have millions of subs yet, one of the most (if not thee most) underrated car focused TH-cam channels. Thanks for the continued god like videos 🙌
We are the enlightened ones here lol
Yeah this channel is so good that other car channels nerd out about it.
It’s a totally different type of channel. It’s so in-depth and so critical whereas the ones a lot of casual viewers want are surface level and “fun” aka TheStraightPipes.
So, we have to share this
The fact that people want to watch Quirks and Features more than this makes me want to puke. These two are the best out there
Man it’s like Toyota took all the feedback about blob design and said “yep let’s double down and make this a thicc boi”
Like painting a couple of cinder blocks white.
Its for fat americans. Much perfer the mexico hilux. Looks cool in the states with baja plates
@@yzrippin that thing is hideous. Growing up in a border city, I’ve seen them for decades and gdamn they’re off looking and have been since always. People just want what they can’t have.
@@yzrippin Hilux - Hot. Tundra - Not.
@@CorruptedPlist mx hilux looks like hot garbage just like the maverick
7:10 Napoleon once again defeated by the far eastern edge of the map.
I like this truck overall but I agree that it probably needs 2-3 years of production to iron out any issues, especially that complex looking motor. They nailed the interior - looks very upscale.
This is Toyota, they generally wait a loooooong time before releasing new tech so they have the reliability down.
Lots of QC issues going on at the moment. Not a great start for this generation. Reliability issues as well
@@ruthnoya8424 They didn't wait long enough to get this powertrain right. That engine has had problems since they brought out the current Lexus LS.
I thought the exterior was excellent but the interior color options and the overall design is ugly.
@@markmiller3279
What kind of problems off the top of your head?
Love seeing the small improvements in the content of this channel each month. Please don't stop trying to improve your content, it's what sets your channel apart and is the reason I come here for honest car reviews with a touch of dry humor
One thing thats interesting is as improvements come, they used to take longer. Then they get easier and integrated. But one thing is for sure, there is a lot more to evolve.
If an alien came to earth they'd be like, "okay so that's a car." Just something to ponder for those who remember sub-5000 pound personal vehicles that had a pleasant shape
I'll keep my v8 until the end of time!
Amen.
Agree
Can't put a finger on it but you guys are the best. Always come back to your channel. Thanks for the production and the honesty
4:59 had me in stitches. Thank you for that! XD
Five foot truck box that will make me the man at home depot. Loading up half size sheet rock like a alpha male . The hybrid shows that I sit down to see like a gentleman
We seriously need to upgrade our bridges and roadways if every fucking soccer mom is going to be bringing Timmy to soccer practice in a vehicle that weighs as much as a Bradley Fighting Vehicle.
Doctor Unicorn how about suggest to design proper roads that aren’t damaged so easily.
Doctor Unicorn you are suggesting to tax heavy trucks that are probably x60 times less tonnage than all passenger cars in the US combined
Doctor Unicorn that’s ridiculous. I’m paying almost $400 for tags for a 4000lb TACOMA and $180 for a 17 year old Tundra that weighs 3800lbs, you are saying I’m not paying my fair sure and a semi-truck that has tremendous economic and practical value needs to pay more because we are ruining the roads for you?
Doctor Unicorn money talks and bullshit walks dude. Are you willing Pay more for everything? tax our trucks more and you’ll get taxed right back.
The professionalism of your reviews is amazing, and appreciated. You guys are the best! Thank you!
Just imagine how much fuel will be saved on those twice daily trips to Starbucks for my wife's boyfriend's Sugar Free Carmellato Soybean frappes!
5:50 is the position you assume when forking over $70k for a pickup truck…
😂 thank you, I was looking for this comment.
yea lol 74k. i want a car not a down payment on a house
I was trying to find someone who commented on that lol
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I did a ride and drive at the Philly auto show. I got there early before traffic got nuts and the rep I was with told me to send it. It’s a total understatement saying IT MOVES. Friggin thing chirped 2nd and 3rd. I was thrilled with it overall
I still like long form video content. So many nice subtle details were picked up here, great job guys!
Been waiting for this review, not dissapointed💪🏻
Correction, you don't need to removed the cab to get at the turbo to fix the waste gate issue. One person that had the waste gate issues with his truck, stated in his review that the dealership did not lift the cab off, they simple remove one of the front wheel and replace it.
Love your guys' frankness, no kiss assing! As a family of 5 we are very much looking forward to your review of the new sequoia and how you think it compares to the others in it's class.
Thr new sequoia already falls behind its rivals in space and it’s not even out yet. No sliding middle seats, tight third row, puny cargo space no independent rear suspension anymore
@@naveenthemachine yeah I was holding out hope but it doesn't look like it will compete much or beat the others. I might have to wait 2 more years for a larger size EV SUV to come out... Maybe Grand Highlander EV?
@@Vin3Man how sad. Brand new it’s not even out yet and it gets spanked by its rivals
@@naveenthemachine That’s because it’s on the LC300 frame and it will be very good off road. It will have a major sales advantage in that respect.
@@naveenthemachine solid axle is a much better solution.
Great video and thank you for that back seat scene. I had a good laugh! Looking forward to reviews of the other trim levels and hopefully a Sequoia soon.
you guys reallly put out good stuff. thanks
I'm not much of a truck guy, but god damn is that a gorgeous looking truck.
😄😄😄😄😄😄 looks like💩
Literally looks like every other modern pickup 🤣
This is a great truck. I am extremely happy Toyota made such a good infotainment/HVAC system. All hail the buttons and dials!
Not so sure this redesign has seen enough real world usage and long-term owner feedback to assign 'greatness' yet...
Never buy a car in it's first year.
How do we know it’s good yet?
@@johnnybravo5044 if it has a warranty there's nothing to worry about. Just sell it after there's no more warranty.
May or may not be bulletproof, but it's more useable than the last Toyota infotainment system, which was awful.
A year ago I got a '16 RAV4 hybrid used. While it's ultimately a boring SUV for errands and commuting, I do love the instant torque off the line, although it runs out of steam pretty quick. It's basically FWD, the rears are a separate electric motor with pitiful power, only really good for low speed launch or slippage. It also uses a nickel hydride battery, but the EV mode doesn't have any real speed or range.
I really wanted a RAV4 prime but since I will be living in an apartment with no charger, I'm glad this hybrid tech is going into larger vehicles. Here's hoping for a highlander or 4runner with some serious power/torque and fuel efficiency.
Great review! Just a comment to help out my favorite reviewers
man, that reliability question and the complexity to work on it is just a huge bummer. I hope It turns out reliable. But a ton of the reliability name from Toyota came from the easy to work on, and easy to keep on the road... this takes that away...
Toyota seems to be going the way of Honda: losing simplicity and having more complex drivetrains just coasting on brand reputation.
@@wigletron2846 Man why doesn't anybody talk about this, every npc review out there talking about new Toyotas as reliable just because they are Toyotas...... A fucking battery is not gonna last 30 years like a Corolla, it will last 10 at best
@@legatus9081 I also don't understand how someone can say a brand new vehicle is reliable. It hasn't been proven yet.
@@wigletron2846 especially since Toyota is also known for putting new cars out, and fixing first gen issues through recalls and warranties
@@wigletron2846 Kinda like the vaccines. 🤔
I'd love an informative video (or series of videos) on how you guys rate car audio and what people should be looking for in car audio.
Lol rear view mirror @ 5:00 😂 … another great review and love the channel.
Hearing your consistent praising of a vehicle makes it more desirable. Thank you for sharing your thoughts gentleman. (:
Forget about fixing it yourself or even by your local mechanic after it is out of warranty. With late path of manufacturers to make sure that things do not last past the warranty period, this cool truck can be a money pit.
4:59 me thinking about the fuel savings of the hybrid drive train.
I totally missed that. These guys have so many subtle jokes, I love it.
Omfg. I missed that.
Hey Guys, I have more questions about this thing, but really just wanted to say great video once again. Keep it up.
That was a really good review. Thank you for doing that. I’m looking forward to you reviewing the upcoming Toyota Sequoia. I drive a 2012 Sequoia with 250,000 km on it. Original owner. It’s been bulletproof and a fantastic vehicle. It’s also an amazing tow vehicle. I look forward to you hopefully doing a review on the new generation Sequoia. Thanks from all the way up from Canada.
Overland expedition to Lululemon had me dying.
Toyota makes the best hybrid system I think, as they have been able to refine it for years. It will be interesting if in a few years they'll have some kind of Lithium Ion pack for this truck, that could make a big difference in mileage / range and power. I'd like to get one of these, but no way in hell am I just going to order it. I'll wait for crazy town pandemic / supply chains to get back to normal... Even if that takes another few years, I'd rather wait it out. Thanks for the great video, my legs fell asleep while I was on the toilet.
Always amazing reviews
great review guys I always value your honest opinions. My wife hates trucks but she absolutely loves our new 2023 4X2 hybrid Limited Tundra so far so good after only 1,000 miles averaging about 21 mpg in the city wife wants a road trip now
that interior is beautiful
I love the mechanical discussion, specially the part where you guys talk about the difficulty of working in this new car compared to the previous ones.
I read that in another article. This truck from what I've read is noticeably more complicated than people realize yet.
Always look forward to your reviews. Most are either overly optimistic or nagging it for likes. Your reviews are honest.
I drive a 2019 tundra limited and absolutely love it and I’m excited to get one of the new tundras someday
I still feel hybrid ice engines are going to be the future with hydrogen eventually replacing fossil fuels just because conversion is easier than widespread replacement of entire vehicles.
it already is the present. . . toyota sienna is hybrid only, all toyota models pretty much have a hybrid version
@@ciello___8307 yeah all trucks now except nissan have a hybrid offering i think now
This channel is the capstone of youtube auto reviewers.
Awesome review fellas! Enjoy that back seat!!! LOL!!!!
Someone was getting a little excited in the review mirror there at 4:58 hahahaha
Everytime Savagegeese uploads a new video my T levels go through the roof
Ok, seriously, that interior looks GREAT...I'm WAY not a fan of "cloud" stuff in cars, though.
reminds me of mazda!
@@henrik1743 Lots of them are doing it now. It's ridiculous. Hell, BMW is charging a "subscription fee" for you to be able to use stuff like your heated seats and whatever, last I heard...completely ridiculous.
@@rmp5s No I meant interior looks like mazda
@@henrik1743 Ah.
I'm 6'5" tall with long arms - the screen sounds perfect!
18:58 should have been the thumbnail. Mark smiling ear to ear looking at the cloud of tire smoke in the rear view mirror. Nice!
I don't understand why the giant tablet in the center has to be symmetrical and face directly forward. For who? I'm the driver. I'm the one who needs to interact with it and see it. I want some cars to copy the "fighter jet cockpit" motif/style that cars like the Lincoln Mark series perfected decades ago. Everything tilted, catered to, and directed towards the driver for his comfort and convenience.
I'm very excited for all this new tech and design. I saw a Tundra the other day and it looked great, and seemed very fast. I'm personally more excited for the Sequoia though.
Thanks Great Video
the back seat demonstration was hilarious, thank you.. rofl !!
The platinum and 1794 trims are equally as nice as this capstone trim,no need for this capstone trim to exist
Unless you want more chrome and 22's
Man I’ll tell you, I am so happy to hear we are consistently moving towards “greener” vehicles. Because, personally, I prefer driving vehicles powered by coal - over gasoline. But that’s just me….🤷🏽♂️
Great job 👏
hey nice audio idk if you changed it but its very clear and loud
The size of this thing is just something to behold, and it's not even considered to be "heavy duty". Moving away from this truck, when I saw that the current ford ranger was the size of an early to mid 2000's F-150 when it came out I knew trucks where only going to keep getting bigger. We need more Maverick-sized trucks (The fact that you don't think it's a truck doesn't matter here), to catch on in our market so we can start moving back down to reality in terms of vehicle sizes.
American commentary?
@@15thelongway Yeah, I should have mentioned specifically the American market.
I'm not sold on it's looks.
i'm with ya i think it's damn ugly and i'm a Toyota guy.
Thanks guys stay gold.
The audio sounds good 👌
Toyota and Lexus are very intelligent. They let their whole lineup get ALMOST to the point where they look so outdated that people start to second guess buying them. Then they use all the data and info over the past years of what has worked and hasn't worked for the other manufacturers and use that information to redesign their vehicles. It is definitely a winning strategy in my book. As a consumer, I never feel like if I buy a new toyota or lexus vehicle, then it will be outdated looking in a year or two because they've released 15 new models and redesigns like some other car manufacturers (**cough** KIA\Hyundai). I just can't afford to upgrade that fast. When I buy a new vehicle, I want it to look new (as in not look like an older model) as long as possible. Otherwise I would just buy used. I just REALLY hope that Toyota doesn't look at Kia\Hyundai's success and start adopting these rapid refreshes
edesigns.
Nah I’m for the refreshes
@@yerpster i would be too if i could afford to upgrade that often
No full-time 4WD is a major fail. What exactly have you been working on for 14 years Toyota?
Not even that. Where is their all electric Tundra?
Great intro
I ordered a TRD Pro and can’t wait. I’m very excited.
I still can't get over people paying Porsche money for a pickup truck.
Madness.
With what I’ve seen with working on the ecoboosts motors no way in hell this thing can ever live up to the reliability of the v8 or the na v6s
But that's Ford
@@Turshin if ford still can’t get it right after 11 years maybe it’ll take Toyota 5 😂
Most of todays V8s with cylinder deactivation are garbage absolute garbage.
They've pretty much ironed out any of the initial issues with the ecoboosts, even then they weren't that problematic. What is your experience "working" on them? The borg warner turbos on them aren't giving out at 50 miles like the Tundras are.
@@Terminxman cam phasers, timing chains, coolant leaks, carbon build up, exhaust manifolds, wastegates, and turbos just to name a few
I certainly like this truck, and that high end version is pretty with an eye-watering price. I bought a 2021 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel late last year, though, and am 100% happy with that truck even with the recent inexplicable rise in diesel fuel prices.
Give it time. It’s a Chrysler /Stellantis product.
@@Justin-lc1xz lol you're not entirely wrong.
That black and white interior is insane.
I'll take the old V8.... this thing will be a nightmare when it gets old.
I have a 2015 Tundra 1794 Edition. 180,000 miles on it. I towed over 12,000lbs last week for nearly 70 miles in rural WV. I know I am way over the max towing #'s but I have went way over the recommended #'s since I bought the truck new and it towed like a champ then and it still tows like a champ nearly 8 years later.
You’re horribly underestimating Toyota
Great review. I am wondering how this compares to the Ram 1500 in overall ride quality? The 1500 seems to be the benchmark for ride quality.
I'd bet the toyota outlasts the ram. I still see tons of early 2000's toyota's in socal
@@messijr5145 That has nothing to do with his question.
@@alh06 Your comment has nothing to do with his question either. LOL. Stupid reply on it's way, let's hear it can't wait
@@messijr5145 No, the reliability of the Tundra has nothing to do with its ride quality. It is amusing to see your outrage as me pointing out this fact though.
@@alh06 none of these comments have anything to do with OPs question......
2022 Toyota Tundra exterior & interior look great ! Slainte' ! Cheers !
That steering wheel looks incredible.
I don’t like that Toyota only allows people to option the hybrid in the upper trim levels. I’m sure there’s plenty of people who would like more torque for towing, but don’t want a “luxury” truck. They also dropped the ball by not matching ford with a better onboard power system with their hybrid. 400W max. I think even their minivan has 1500W?
And I’m beating a dead horse, but I still can’t get over the fact they finally gave people a locking diff but took away recovery hooks. Amongst some other issues, like not offering front bench seats or making the cab smaller, it just goes to show the truck was an afterthought when they designed this land cruiser platform.
Would love to hear your analysis of the Ford vs Toyota hybrids.
They are both the same basic design with the Ford system helping with fuel economy a bit more on the EPA test cycle. However, for me getting the Ford is a no brainer due to the 7.2kWh plug in the bed. Great for camping or powering a job site. Ford is unmatched in this segment for practicality.
@@slscamg I agree. I do own a powerboost for those reasons haha
@@slscamg that's called glamping if you need that much power. and what job do you do that your site, or you, doesn't already have a dedicated generator? and you would rather run a $40k engine than a $2k generator?
The audio quality of this video is insane
Mark, great review here as always your channel is really one of the very best of this. In your opinion, do the 22 inch wheels on the Capstone deteriorate ride quality? Those are some mighty big wheels if I got a Capstone I would consider Having dealership exchange down to 19 or 20 inch for a better ride.
It definately makes ride more choppy but way better than expected. Id say 10% worse.
@@savagegeese Thank you so much for taking a few to reply with a good info. I guess it just marginally deteriorates the ride then. I figure wheels that big with tires with such a little sidewall would really affect the ride. Plus be noisier as well.
@@jonathanratliff4780 some of it is Tire technology has gotten better and also manufactures are doing a better job at tuning their suspension around these huge Wheel and Tire combos
It looks like you guys are driving a room with windows.
Something about the interior design makes the cabin look huge.
It feels smaller than the previous generation.
5:48 exactly how I’m trying to be in someone’s 50k + truck.
Sweet truck and badass video as always. How will cold weather affect the drive quality? Debating going YOLO and buying the hybrid.
This thing looks amazing!
Tens of diesel fans cried out in pain
Had a 15 Tundra. Took a break with a jag..... i want to go back tundra, but i can't help but leaning towards maverick especially if they release an ST like rumored, or even the new canyon of our comes out good. Or i think there's arguments for basic ram being better. Granted i don't tow, need more of a commuter/ utility vehicle. Bed for light landscaping/ appliances.
get a passat TDI and a small trailer
The comedy is always 🥇please never stop
The yassification of the Tundra.
Not on board with electric only vehicles but these interiors are getting real nice for these future vehicles
By the time my vehicle is up in mileage.
I'll be buying a hybrid truck. No doubt.
Thanks for the quality review. The future looks good 👍🏿
Thats a nice "going to town rig"
I seriously don’t give a crap about this truck, or any truck. Not my style. Yet, I’m here watching this video. I need to talk to my psychologist about my addiction to this channel and listening to these guys opinions.
These videos are just on another level from what everyone else is doing
Mark discussing the interior simultaneously felt super informed and analytical but also like a conversation with a trusted friend.