Yep, I have a triple rec, doesn't sound as good as one of these, but it's SO DAMN LOUD! Turning it up in the basement I'm afraid it could break windows upstairs, or stop my heart.
When a hardwood, Wicker cloth, antique amp becomes a fire breathing monster... there’s a reason those things became the bar for metal tone for a long time.
@@traviswhite771 good question... The 2C+ became the bar, but the Dual Rec and 5150 became the sound of the 90's / 2000's. Not sure where the Diesel fits in.
They're becoming increasingly rare, but Mesa Mark 3 are a little more prevalent and can more or less do this. The blue stripe revision is actually slightly more aggressive than the 2C+.
I think some European amp brands, like Diezel and Engl, were meant to be the premium high gain amps for European customers, since American made Mesas and Peaveys are so rare and expensive in Europe.
@@kurozumi8475 Randall Smith. Mike was the chief tech and he certainly was responsible for some mods and improvements, but Randall Smith always designed the amps first.
@@Turboy65 MB is the one who tweaked the existing IIC circuit while Randall Smith was in Germany for an amp show. He deserves a BUNCH of the credit for taking this amp to the next level. Look at the difference in prices for the IIA, IIB and IIC+. You can get a IIA for $2K these days....a fully loaded DRG IIC+ is running into the $15K range now.
4:33 can confirm, this sounds absolutely like you are standing in the room. I was in the rehearsal room literally 3 minutes ago, the "all mics blended" sound in the video is SPOT ON.
@@instrumentalist28 the Mark III is one of the most aggressive amps ever built, and can easily keep up with the others in terms of gain. Still, it would be interesting to hear the differences in tonality between them.
One of my high school friends has one of these that his dad bought brand new in ‘83. When played with my slant recto 4x12 w English v30’s it’s one of the best amps I have ever heard in my life. It can do ANYTHING
My parents got me one of these for Christmas around that time. I wanted the Marshall but got this instead. Imagine my horror when I pulled this thing out and it matched our patio furniture. I plugged it in and was just blown away by it. It's still one of my go to amps 37 years later.
@@TheLifelove123 lol. Cool story. Yeah, would’ve probably matched my folks furniture too. I would’ve been bummed til I plugged it in. That thing is beastly.
I have had a mark III red dot for over twenty years and I am never going to get rid of it. The same sound heritage like in the mark II C+, a classic sound and the clean and rhythm 2 channels are awesome.
I had one of these mk2c combos with an EV speaker in 1982. The band I was in all blame me for their tinnitus! It was too much of a beast back then so foolishly went back to my Marshall. One those regret sales but I have at least got my Fractal version now! Great demo Ola. Love the way the room sounds. Its the best way to hear an amp as you miss lots of detail when you are playing yourself.
This is such an outstanding series. You are doing an excellent job of capturing these amps in a way that lets others hear a much more accurate version of how they sound. I would love to see some of the Fryette stuff done in the room. Synergy or full fledged. Maybe a Diesel Herbert and the Engl Savage.
As much as I learn about the different hi gain amps I also really like hearing the different mic choices. It a comparison you don't often get and has really changed my ideas about mic choices. Thanks Ola, you dun me a learn ! .\m/ head banging love from TX !
Kirk used ADA MP-1 preamps & JMP-1 preamps during the black album tour. He used the aforementioned ADA MP-1 during the damaged justice tour also. Only James used mark series heads live during the black album tour.
@@Nghilifa I think they were using the Triaxis for the Damaged Justice tour... Maybe with the ADA MP-1 too? Don't remember where I read it long time ago
It's always amazing to hear how much the same amp/rig, the same guitar and the same player can sound completely different depending just on the mic used for capturing the sound and it's position.
@@woodward_alan I am waiting for mine since August. Shame on Mesa Boogie for ridiculously poor distribution since they quit collaboration with MEINL distribution. Expect 4-5 months shipping
It will arrive never, they cannot build them anymore please watch and share my story how MESA BOOGIE SCAMMED ME and many European music stores DONT BUY future JP-2Cs from them, better get them used, they won’t be the same instagram.com/tv/CJgh5Mjnsfq/?igshid=1i4hmru50vb49
@@Liquifireguitargeek after I saw what mesa did to you I went looking for a used jp2c found it bought it for $2400 next day they announced the Gibson merger-bang my boogie went up in price-haha--I hope u got urs
When you turned on the Lewitt LCT, i literally jumped and looked around me, thinking there was a loud ass amp in my house. This video series REALLY does what it's meant to. Thanks Ola 🤘
The mark 2c is the same amp Brad Gillis used to record speak of the devil. That was the best guitar sound ever recorded. I've been chasing that sound my whole life.
Ola builds cool sections of how room with logos on the walls to make his videos look incredibly professional. Ola randomly cuts to far angle cameras that shatter the illusion and show how chaotic parts of his room are because he doesn't give a single fuck. never change, king.
Great old Boogie amp Ola . Love the wood finish on the head’s cabinet . I am very jealous of your and Louise’s Lagom lifestyle. You seem very ZEN and content with your place in life.
Go to Sweden 🇸🇪 experience it, be in it, understand it, stop and look around both physically and metaphorically. When you figure "it" out, Lågom will find you too.
@@restojon1 I would love to visit Sweden 🇸🇪. First stop Stockholm to see Ola and Louise. Next find my hockey idol Nick Lindstrom of the Detroit RedWings fame. I am close to retirement and would like to spend a summer in Sweden and maybe Amsterdam too.
I have a JP-2c and I'd say the ORTF Stereo mic sounds pretty damn close to what it sounds like 'in my room'. One of the best parts of having an amp like this is you can literally feel the low end in your body.
It's great to hear a IIC+ demo produced by someone who not only knows how to play heavy but also knows how to properly record a guitar amp. BTW I think Mesa should clone that IIC+ of yours, it is quite vicious sounding.
Yeah man. That’s just how I remember it. I bought a 1984 model in 1990 when I was a senior in high school. I had a Boogie 412 with EVs in it. I played lots of Metallica covers then, so it just slayed for that.
Ola I vote you do one of these in the rooms for all the amps you’ve made videos of in the past. It keeps this series going forward and revisits awesome older amps with your new and improved production
It’s been years since your comment, and I agree about the „sizzle“… but in my experience: the sizzle completely disappears after the drummer said „4“… it’s crazy how it blends in to drums and isn’t annoying anymore
Amazing amp!! Sounds absolutely sick.. the way the amp looks is soo nostalgic though hahha! My granddad used to have an old radio like that back in the 90‘s.. the radio was probably from the 60‘s ;)
Love the idea of micing every speaker on that 4x12, but next time could you mic a couple of those speakers in the freidmen technique, where you could pair off diff mics together in that configuration. Just a thought.
Damn, can't blame you for putting a tube screamer for an amp this old, but damn mesa boogie doesn't disappoint. Like, that amp was way ahead of it's time with that much gain without any modifications, unlike what most metal bands did back in the time to get that much gain and distortion. This is an interesting lesson in amp history lol.
I have 5 of mark series amps, Green stripe, Red stripe, Blue Stripe and a a IIC+.. if they were vastly different they wouldn't have just swiped each version with just a magic marker swipe or a black dot or a + sign. The big difference in the IIC+ and the Mark III was the third channel. Mesa got noticeably different with the Mesa badging vs the Boogie badges. The Rectifier series,The lone star, Road King,Nomad, etc came later and did sound different... The stiletto was probably the most different being EL34 based shooting toward the Marshall tone. Even my newer Mark 5 EL84 based amp sits in my studio with the older mark III'S and IIC+ it too sounds really close even all these years later with totally different power section/ tubes. The petrucci amp is a modern Mark amp and you can line up all the Mark series amps and NO one in the audience would ever know the difference and most guitar players blind folded couldn't pick them out one from the other especially with the transparent EVM 12L black shadow speaker or an MC-90 black shadow. The IIC+ landed production in the right time to become the flagship vintage boogie. Thats when 80's music was huge and that amp was produced at the right time for the players who made it famous. it didn't make them famous. I would argue a Mark III purple, red, blue or green stripe Mark III could have been used by the players who made the IIC+ famous and those albums and concerts wouldn't have sounded any different. They just weren't available at the time those bands recorded those albums. They stopped the IIC+ when the mark III came into production. They stopped the III when the Mark IV started and so on....they are all great amps and tonally are the same. Most of those bands stopped playing the IIC+ and went to the mark III when it came out because the sound was basically the same but the 3 had a third channel, everyone loved that.
Yep, as a Mark III red stripe owner, I can get pretty much exactly this same tone. I just have another channel to mess with. In all honesty, this is not how I play my amp. Dialing back a few things and it gets that sweet singing Santana sound or the Allman Brothers tone quite easily. Plug in a Fender Strat with single coils and let the cleans get a bit dirty and you can have a nice spanky, chimey sounding blues tone or David Gilmore as well. The Mark Series of amps do so much more than this noise.
Mark series amps w the graphic are all capable of delivering the crushing metal tones. The mark IV has my heart but Jesus the IIC does sound fucking badass.
Have a great friday everyone!
hey ola who won the james root guitar
Me duhhh
You too Ola!
Ola just being the master!!!!! \m/
you too Ola... please put some Yule decorations... its Christmas man!!
There is one thing "in the room" can't demonstrate. That is how the rig sounds while it's resonating your skull. No joke.
Neumann KU-100! They're not cheap but it will get the closest to that.
We need Skull impulse responses
@@RÅNÇIÐ im dying
Hook your PC or whatever you are watching on to a proper rig and you can experience it at home \m/
Yep, I have a triple rec, doesn't sound as good as one of these, but it's SO DAMN LOUD! Turning it up in the basement I'm afraid it could break windows upstairs, or stop my heart.
When a hardwood, Wicker cloth, antique amp becomes a fire breathing monster... there’s a reason those things became the bar for metal tone for a long time.
AND a DAMN GOOD reason why they are UNTOUCHABLE pricewise !!!!!!!! Talk about amp porn !!!!!! OMFG..... LOL....
And whats considered the new bar? The diesel amps?
@@traviswhite771 good question... The 2C+ became the bar, but the Dual Rec and 5150 became the sound of the 90's / 2000's. Not sure where the Diesel fits in.
They're becoming increasingly rare, but Mesa Mark 3 are a little more prevalent and can more or less do this. The blue stripe revision is actually slightly more aggressive than the 2C+.
I think some European amp brands, like Diezel and Engl, were meant to be the premium high gain amps for European customers, since American made Mesas and Peaveys are so rare and expensive in Europe.
Whoever designed this amp, they were the true masterminds of the sound of today's metal music
The guy who designed those Mark II amps and this revision is AFAIK called Mike Bendinelli!
@@kurozumi8475 Randall Smith. Mike was the chief tech and he certainly was responsible for some mods and improvements, but Randall Smith always designed the amps first.
@@Turboy65 AND!, Randall is a flute player. He doesn't play any guitar.
@@Turboy65 MB is the one who tweaked the existing IIC circuit while Randall Smith was in Germany for an amp show. He deserves a BUNCH of the credit for taking this amp to the next level. Look at the difference in prices for the IIA, IIB and IIC+. You can get a IIA for $2K these days....a fully loaded DRG IIC+ is running into the $15K range now.
Randall Smith designed this amp, he truly is a genius
4:33 can confirm, this sounds absolutely like you are standing in the room. I was in the rehearsal room literally 3 minutes ago, the "all mics blended" sound in the video is SPOT ON.
We need a comparison of this amp with the JP-2C, a Mark III and a Mark IV. In fact just do all the Marks.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark III wouldn't stand a chance, I think between a IV and jp-2c, in terms of high gain, I think 🤔
@@instrumentalist28 the Mark III is one of the most aggressive amps ever built, and can easily keep up with the others in terms of gain. Still, it would be interesting to hear the differences in tonality between them.
@@instrumentalist28 I have a III and a IV. The III is WAY more agressive than the IV.
I have two mkIII'S and they are both extremely brutal.
My blue stripe is the most brutal amp I have ever heard
1:02 - The symmetry between the black guitar/cab and wood tone amp/neck is just amazing. This is a perfect combination of amp and guitar.
These old marks are really amazing. I’ve had a mesa rig since ‘92 in my gear, and these old marks are just amazing.
One of my high school friends has one of these that his dad bought brand new in ‘83. When played with my slant recto 4x12 w English v30’s it’s one of the best amps I have ever heard in my life. It can do ANYTHING
My parents got me one of these for Christmas around that time. I wanted the Marshall but got this instead. Imagine my horror when I pulled this thing out and it matched our patio furniture. I plugged it in and was just blown away by it. It's still one of my go to amps 37 years later.
@@TheLifelove123 lol. Cool story. Yeah, would’ve probably matched my folks furniture too. I would’ve been bummed til I plugged it in. That thing is beastly.
Best amp ever.
Now don't do eating Earth if you want awesome amp reviews from Ola. Go eat Mars or something.
What would a wound in the force know about amplifiers?
@@MrDrTheJniac The answer's Yes!
1:40 NEUMANN TLM 102
2:07 SHURE SM 58
2:53 BEYERDYNAMIC TGİ51
3:16 LEWITT LCT 640
3:52 AUSTRIAN AUDIO OC18
4:15 ORTF STEREO ROOM MICROPHONE
4:35 ALL
I am listening with Presonus HD7. Neumann and ORTF are ''the shit''
Sounds sick, probably the best sounding all mics blended out of everything that has been done in In The Room
Crunchier, yes, but no comparison to his Dual Rec in the room sound
@@dickieradd yeah that rec was monsterous.
I have had a mark III red dot for over twenty years and I am never going to get rid of it. The same sound heritage like in the mark II C+, a classic sound and the clean and rhythm 2 channels are awesome.
This amp makes the existence of other amplifiers unnecessary))) Sounds fucking kick ass!!!
Considering its age too !!!!!!!!!!!! THAT SAYS IT ALL..... \M/ \M/ !!!!!!!!!
@@mikegallagher2732 Geez, I get goose bumps all over me every time I even look at the thumbnail of this video remembering how this amp sounds!
The Marks are fukking tight! My favorite amps.
that's what he said
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@@conanbarbarus1850 the comment section is out of control
Me too
I was born in 82. I like how it inspired Ola to play "old" riffs he wrote. Just like my Mark IV, it inspres me to play old riffs I wish I wrote haha.
Mark iv has a legendary sound! Love the B head I bought!
I played with a guitarist 25 years ago who used a Mesa Boogie 50 Cal head and it shredded and chugged. The older Mesa sounded great. Nice video 👍👍
111 dbA... sound like the perfect practice apt amp to me.
Best amp in history. Period.
That Neumann mic sounds insane!
thats for sure, that Mic is on my radar now
you can hear a ton of different amps and be like oh cool, that chugs. but then you hear a mesa, and its always like yep. that's the tone.
I had one of these mk2c combos with an EV speaker in 1982. The band I was in all blame me for their tinnitus! It was too much of a beast back then so foolishly went back to my Marshall. One those regret sales but I have at least got my Fractal version now! Great demo Ola. Love the way the room sounds. Its the best way to hear an amp as you miss lots of detail when you are playing yourself.
Ola, the man everyone on this channel comes here for good chuggin' in times of a lack of huggin'!!!!!!!!!!!!
someone needs to make a shirt with that Xd OLA ENGLUND 2020 Chugging instead of Hugging
@@BlackLionRecordsTV cHUGGING and a cartoon-Louise kissing an X through the C ... Knock yourself out Ola, Merry X-massacre everyone!!!!!! ;p
Hey Swola, just ordered a baritone solar guitar! Can’t wait to play it. Love your content my man. Love from Pennsylvania
I really dig the sound with the Neumann TLM102. Never heard about this microphone before. Nice discovery !
I though the same yesterday. It’s punchy and so honest sounding.
@@csabogurdon Exactly.
Yea, its my favorite mic. The palm mutes sound badass, and the highs arent obnoxious. I heard metallica recorded justice and master with that mic
The Mesa Boogie "V" of Metal Win on the EQ there. The only setting for early Boogie amps and the discerning metalhead
I've wanted this amp for so long. . Why must I torture myself by living vicariously?!
This is such an outstanding series. You are doing an excellent job of capturing these amps in a way that lets others hear a much more accurate version of how they sound. I would love to see some of the Fryette stuff done in the room. Synergy or full fledged. Maybe a Diesel Herbert and the Engl Savage.
As much as I learn about the different hi gain amps I also really like hearing the different mic choices. It a comparison you don't often get and has really changed my ideas about mic choices. Thanks Ola, you dun me a learn !
.\m/ head banging love from TX !
Sounds great! Thanks for sharing!
We liked the sound of the SM58 the best.
When you mix all mics together, it’s like an audiogasm for my ears.
Best amp ever made! Listen to metallica live in san diego 1992, best live sound ever recorded!!
Right. It's so tight, so heavy and aggressive sounding.
Completely Agree!!!🤘🏻
I'm fairly certain they where using IV's instead of IIC+'s by then. As far as I know.
Kirk used ADA MP-1 preamps & JMP-1 preamps during the black album tour.
He used the aforementioned ADA MP-1 during the damaged justice tour also. Only James used mark series heads live during the black album tour.
@@Nghilifa I think they were using the Triaxis for the Damaged Justice tour... Maybe with the ADA MP-1 too? Don't remember where I read it long time ago
I never got to play a mk IIc, but a few Mark III’s way back in the late ‘80’s-early’90’s. Sick amps.
It's always amazing to hear how much the same amp/rig, the same guitar and the same player can sound completely different depending just on the mic used for capturing the sound and it's position.
Having never tried it, I always wondered why this amp was so damned expensive.
Now I know why.
Thanks Ola.
When is the JP2c gonna arrive???🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
He mentioned it during the John Petrucci interview. I'm excited for it to arrive! Wonder how he can stack it up against this 2c+....
@@woodward_alan I am waiting for mine since August. Shame on Mesa Boogie for ridiculously poor distribution since they quit collaboration with MEINL distribution. Expect 4-5 months shipping
It will arrive never, they cannot build them anymore please watch and share my story how MESA BOOGIE SCAMMED ME and many European music stores
DONT BUY future JP-2Cs from them, better get them used, they won’t be the same instagram.com/tv/CJgh5Mjnsfq/?igshid=1i4hmru50vb49
@@Liquifireguitargeek whoa dude.......that’s a huge fucking problem......I will share.
@@Liquifireguitargeek after I saw what mesa did to you I went looking for a used jp2c found it bought it for $2400 next day they announced the Gibson merger-bang my boogie went up in price-haha--I hope u got urs
Awesome Ola! These amps sound even better with an old EVM12L
I have a Mesa Quad Pre with the MKIIC+ channel. It's still an amazing sounding amp even after all these years
Ola let me hold that Mesa C+, son.
Weren't these made in the early 80's. Still today, nothing compares. The mind boggles.
When you turned on the Lewitt LCT, i literally jumped and looked around me, thinking there was a loud ass amp in my house. This video series REALLY does what it's meant to. Thanks Ola 🤘
Petition to make a signature pedal for ola called "OLA-DRIVE"
Ola the boosterer
They should just call it ola chugs
the angry and lovely swedish Oladrive
ChugDrive??
Chug-Ola 👊🏻
This is my favourite metal sound of all time. My main choice for chugging on my Kemper.
such a distinct sound. nothing else does it for me
The mark 2c is the same amp Brad Gillis used to record speak of the devil. That was the best guitar sound ever recorded. I've been chasing that sound my whole life.
Greatest amp ever made! You should also try the Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp.
Ola builds cool sections of how room with logos on the walls to make his videos look incredibly professional.
Ola randomly cuts to far angle cameras that shatter the illusion and show how chaotic parts of his room are because he doesn't give a single fuck.
never change, king.
the Neumann mic is the best IMO, for real. That Damn Amp is just Rediculous, its 38 years old and sounds amazing.
Great old Boogie amp Ola . Love the wood finish on the head’s cabinet . I am very jealous of your and Louise’s Lagom lifestyle. You seem very ZEN and content with your place in life.
Go to Sweden 🇸🇪 experience it, be in it, understand it, stop and look around both physically and metaphorically. When you figure "it" out, Lågom will find you too.
@@restojon1 I would love to visit Sweden 🇸🇪. First stop Stockholm to see Ola and Louise. Next find my hockey idol Nick Lindstrom of the Detroit RedWings fame. I am close to retirement and would like to spend a summer in Sweden and maybe Amsterdam too.
CRISPY! Like this so much more than the last recto you did....
Sounds amazing. Well anything ola plays is gold lml!!!
The production quality is getting out of hand.
Absolutely love it!
Holy Grail! I need one of these.
I have a JP-2c and I'd say the ORTF Stereo mic sounds pretty damn close to what it sounds like 'in my room'. One of the best parts of having an amp like this is you can literally feel the low end in your body.
Thanks Ola you just convinced me that's what I really need is not a new amplifier, but a new microphone and experiment with its placement...
This best video series for actually hearing what amps sound like!This is the SHIT look forward to these every time Rock on OLA🤘🤘
My all-time favourite amp 🤘
What a beast of an amp. True classic ❤️🔥
It's great to hear a IIC+ demo produced by someone who not only knows how to play heavy but also knows how to properly record a guitar amp.
BTW I think Mesa should clone that IIC+ of yours, it is quite vicious sounding.
Being reissued by Mesa Boogie , certainly worth thinking about , it's the only amp you'd ever need .
Yeah man. That’s just how I remember it. I bought a 1984 model in 1990 when I was a senior in high school. I had a Boogie 412 with EVs in it. I played lots of Metallica covers then, so it just slayed for that.
I just got the Neural DSP plugin for this amp and good lord
Ola I vote you do one of these in the rooms for all the amps you’ve made videos of in the past. It keeps this series going forward and revisits awesome older amps with your new and improved production
9:03 sounds like there’s a kick drum in those chugs
Would be cool to see you do the Mark IV. Played one a long ass time ago and it was an out of body experience.
The Mark V has the EXACT same circuit... great amp!
is the best sound of "imn the room series""
Holy Shit!!ª!!!!
The Austrian Audio and the Neumann sounded pretty good.
Had .50 Caliber head in the 80's when saw Prince with Boogies.
I never had the real amp, but this is my favorite model in my headrush. Sounds awesome
Always a fan of all mics together
I love this ...real mics .....way better than those other channels that just use crappy plastic sounding IRs to demo an amp
Hope you and your have a merry Christmas and happy new year brother. I was born in 79 man about to turn 44 .
3:51 - "Sad but True" introduction. Can you assess a MESA Mark V "in the room"?
Really brings out the sizzle in those v30's...
I'd like to hear it through Mick Thompson's new Eminence DV77 speakers.
It’s been years since your comment, and I agree about the „sizzle“… but in my experience: the sizzle completely disappears after the drummer said „4“… it’s crazy how it blends in to drums and isn’t annoying anymore
Amazing amp!! Sounds absolutely sick.. the way the amp looks is soo nostalgic though hahha! My granddad used to have an old radio like that back in the 90‘s.. the radio was probably from the 60‘s ;)
I think the OC18 has the best capture of all. Also, thank you for enunciating why JP fell in love with that amp - I think I need one
JP2C ! We neeeeeeed it !
No Boost To The Front End And It Sounds That Good!!! SWEET!!!!
Its just so dirty!!! Pure filthy ❤❤❤ nice one with the multi mics too 😊
Wow! That is the ultimate tone.
I swear that tlm 102 is the best sounding mic of them all
The tone is indiscernible.
Holly crap I love this amp! Had one back in the early 2000’s
I'm hanging on to a Mark IV for similar reasons :)
@@woodward_alan big regrets selling my amp.
@@woodward_alan me too! There's a magic to the Mark IIC+ through to Mark IV-B. Even the Mark V just doesn't quite match them
That sounds glorious. Amazing!
So sick! Can’t believe it’s that old!
this with the 102 is soooo killer
ugh that thing sounds so good.
Love the idea of micing every speaker on that 4x12, but next time could you mic a couple of those speakers in the freidmen technique, where you could pair off diff mics together in that configuration. Just a thought.
Damn, can't blame you for putting a tube screamer for an amp this old, but damn mesa boogie doesn't disappoint.
Like, that amp was way ahead of it's time with that much gain without any modifications, unlike what most metal bands did back in the time to get that much gain and distortion.
This is an interesting lesson in amp history lol.
An amp from 1982 that doesn't even need an overdrive. Metallica ran the gain on about 6 to make Puppets/Justice/Black. Ridiculous!
@@crionics99 Ikr!
@@crionics99 Metallica reportedly chained two amps.
I have 5 of mark series amps, Green stripe, Red stripe, Blue Stripe and a a IIC+.. if they were vastly different they wouldn't have just swiped each version with just a magic marker swipe or a black dot or a + sign. The big difference in the IIC+ and the Mark III was the third channel. Mesa got noticeably different with the Mesa badging vs the Boogie badges. The Rectifier series,The lone star, Road King,Nomad, etc came later and did sound different... The stiletto was probably the most different being EL34 based shooting toward the Marshall tone. Even my newer Mark 5 EL84 based amp sits in my studio with the older mark III'S and IIC+ it too sounds really close even all these years later with totally different power section/ tubes. The petrucci amp is a modern Mark amp and you can line up all the Mark series amps and NO one in the audience would ever know the difference and most guitar players blind folded couldn't pick them out one from the other especially with the transparent EVM 12L black shadow speaker or an MC-90 black shadow. The IIC+ landed production in the right time to become the flagship vintage boogie. Thats when 80's music was huge and that amp was produced at the right time for the players who made it famous. it didn't make them famous. I would argue a Mark III purple, red, blue or green stripe Mark III could have been used by the players who made the IIC+ famous and those albums and concerts wouldn't have sounded any different. They just weren't available at the time those bands recorded those albums. They stopped the IIC+ when the mark III came into production. They stopped the III when the Mark IV started and so on....they are all great amps and tonally are the same. Most of those bands stopped playing the IIC+ and went to the mark III when it came out because the sound was basically the same but the 3 had a third channel, everyone loved that.
Yep, as a Mark III red stripe owner, I can get pretty much exactly this same tone. I just have another channel to mess with. In all honesty, this is not how I play my amp. Dialing back a few things and it gets that sweet singing Santana sound or the Allman Brothers tone quite easily. Plug in a Fender Strat with single coils and let the cleans get a bit dirty and you can have a nice spanky, chimey sounding blues tone or David Gilmore as well. The Mark Series of amps do so much more than this noise.
Mark series amps w the graphic are all capable of delivering the crushing metal tones. The mark IV has my heart but Jesus the IIC does sound fucking badass.
Is it just me or is that OC18 possibly the best sounding mic in this video? Just killer tones from that one!
Such a great sounding amp.
This might be the greatest tone I've ever heard
Still got that Master of Puppets tone like Ola old video
Greatest amp ever made.
I had a visit to geetar wizard CJ Grimmark a few years ago. He had the IIC+ and swore by it until he got his hands on the Petrucci Signature C+ model.
My go to distorted tone, so sick and HUGE irl
This doesnt make it justice
Just recently got the Mesa dual rectifier 3 channel. Love it !
Still the pinnacle in my humble opinion! 🤘