Ford Recalls 500,000 F150's It's Not What You Think
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Yes Ford is recalling the 2014 F150 for a sudden diw shift in the transmission. However this has been around since 2011 and the 2014 wasn't included.
All they did was update it to add the 2014 model. less than 1% (that's 5500 or less trucks) will be affected. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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People need to turn off the 24/7 media who are the ones blowing this out of proportion.
@@xeutoniumnyborg1192 exactly.
It's an election year
That's not happening
This happened with the Ford 3 valve too. We knew of the lifter issues with them before any were even able to be purchased by the dealership.
They made some slight changes and sent it.
Workers didn't even want a new truck with their company discount
@@brandonrobishaw7606 facts
thanks for the clearity bud.
@@timkis64 💯💯
I had my 2013 reprogrammed in 2015/16. Its been a great truck wirhout any major repairs. Unfortunately mine just started doing this a few times in the past few weeks. Heading to dealership after work to try to get them to cover repairs....
@@leenader5249 started doing what? Downshift into first gear from any gear?
Thanks for the clarification.
@@user-roadwander your welcome friend
Ford is gunning for the most recalls. I think they are in first place
@Livefreewhileucan nah we passed that off to honda a few months back.
Comparing Honda's recalls which are rear view cameras and airbags is hardly comparable to Ford's recalls that are powertrain , year after year after decade of powertrain debacles .@@BeardedFordTech
@kenj.8897 No, they have more than camera recalls. They recalled a bunch for engine transmission stuff as well. A lot of Ford recalls are software updates or some sort of module or park assist. And the powertrain stuff. They all have recalls. Everything is garbage nowadays. Everything. But hey. A recall is a recall. The quality of work coming out of manufacturers is garbage. They get cheap parts, and the bean counters want it cheaper. And we se the end result. I honestly think this is all done on purpose
Yup pathetic quality and it ends up in the techs lap . Hey it's job security, but you have to have the right mindset to be able to deal with the stress . Consumers are sure getting the shaft . @@BeardedFordTech
@kenj.8897 yep. It's a lose lose. Sucks the customer gets the shaft.
I believe I might have one of them- 2014 from the Dearborn plant. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for the info!
@kountrycorps your welcome. You can email me your vin and I can check
I have an appointment at a Ford dealer that I've never used for my 2014 Ford F-150 STX Sport 4x4 on July 9 to address the recall 24S37 (NHTSA Recall Number24V444). The person who made the appointment looked up my VIN and said that on my truck no parts needed to be replaced, they only needed to do a reprogram or update of the software. I hope that is all it needs!
@@franksmith6871 yep. Just an update only 1% will be effected by a sudden downshift event.
I have 2011 built in Dearborn plant with 50 000 miles. Been in repair since April 12, 2024. Warranty requires going back to origin of failure. Tearing down is time consuming and I think it may be 3 more months.
@@singatune for the transmission?
@@BeardedFordTech yes. First has to be an available hoist. Tear down. Ford extended warranty checks it. Then order parts. Wait..
Then wait for hoist again. Then repair it.
@@singatune must be a small dealer. I can have it out and tore down in about 2 hours. Then order parts. Push it outside and bring it back in when parts arrive. Course I didn't work at small dealers either.
Had my 2011 done about 2 years ago. I was going down the freeway and it tried shifting to first but as soon as I saw the engine light flicker I braked and pulled off the road. Stopped the engine and restarted. It was out of warranty having around 155k miles but I had bought an extended warranty that covered most of the lead frame plus new shift solenoids and the PCM update. It’s been fine since.
@johnsteele8382 yep. I did a lot of them back in the day.
I had a '14. I also had a 2000, 2004, 2007, 2010, 2019, and my current 2022. Think I'd have bought (for cash BTW) each and every one of those if I had any issues EVER ?? Nope.
Weird huh. Like my 2019 ranger. Never had a problem. My 2011 f150 for blackout. Never had a problem. My 2018 mustang gt Never had a problem.
My 2014 experienced this problem 1 month before the recall…my local ford dealership installed a new lead frame and reprogrammed the PCM just like you said….$1500. I’m hoping Ford will do the right thing and warranty that fix and cut me a check. We’ll see.
When you get the recall notice ypu will see at the bottom it says what if I already paid. Submit your paperwork from the dealer and you should get a refund
@@BeardedFordTechthat’s exactly what I’ve done. We’ll see how long it takes to get a response.
@@ericgryder7454 keep me posted
I have never heard the term "molded lead frame" until now.
@onenikkione that's what it's called. I remember my first time hearing it to.
I just had my 2016 repaired for those codes and transmission howling and shifting funny
That's a new one. Glad you got it fixed though!!
Mine went into the dealer yesteday, it was supposed to take about an hour. I waited for four hours because my dealer is 80 miles from my home. Finally at the end of the afternoon, the service manager came to me and said they did not fix the problem and, in addition, the truck would not even start. They gave me a loaner and now I will wait to see what they can fix.
Oh my they messed something up. Rewlly not hard to program a pcm.
@@BeardedFordTech Went back the following day, and, they had it fixed. They told me that the laptop they were using was the problem. At any rate, it drives fine, maybe even a bit smoother, and, my mileage does seem a tad better as well. thanks for your information.
@keithkuckler2551 not a problem. Glad it got fixed!!
I have a 12 with the 19S07(?) for PCM update for the same concern. I haven't done it yet nor have I had the problem. The extension of coverage on the lead frame has expired for my VIN. So if I have the problem in the future I'll probably just buy a main control and have the dealer install it.
@Gatornade I would get it updated. Not all of them had the lead frame concern. So if it isn't acting funny don't bother with it. If the lead frame does go bad later you can do that in your driveway in about 45 min. They are ready to do. But I would get the pcm updated to latest calibration.
Dude, get it flashed. No truck had the issue... Until it had the issue.... I'd gladly pay to have it reflashed than have it do this outta the blue and kill me or others.
Regardless, Ford has a recall that spans multiple years that offers a “fix” rather than engineering a solution to prevent it from occurring. Still, it’s a fix or repair daily platform.
@jme36053 ford isn't the only one. All the manufacturers have engineers who design really awesome things. Then the bean counters come in and want to save 6 cents per vehicle and ultimately screw it up. Which ends up costing more in the long run. You figure the bean counters would learn by now
These trucks would last a lot longer if they didn't design them with planned obsolescence as a factor.
@DVJiMATT this is also true. Nothings built to last anymore sad really. All part of their plan
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@@46bovine they sent me the clock a while back. Batteries are dying. It's not the right time. I use it in all my gasoline stuff. And I use it for an entire fleet. Which also has 6.7 liter powerstroke diesels. Amsoil has never let me down
Makes me glad I bought a 2013.😅
@@user-xk4vt9ye8j good truck!
They had the same recall, for the same issue, loss of signal from vss.
It's too late to get the free flash now, but that's all they did to my 13. Was reflashed it to eliminate the downshift. The lead frames are garbage. New lead frames are out now.
Ford's got to fix it if it hasn't been redone
I'm sure someone will correct me, but if they are fixing it with a software update, and they all had the same software, than sorry, they all could have this issue.
This is the same issue as the 11-13. Reflashed to prevent the downshift.
Updated software calibration. They all need a new software flash. Only the 1% will experience the downshift. That's due to an electrical short in the lead frame. The software update changes shift parameters if I read correctly
So basically all 500,000 need the calibration level checked and updated if needed and they are hoping to only find 5,000 that actually need leadframe replaced.
@brandongarnold no. Only 5500 will need a lead frame or a calibration. One of the other. Lead frame is only if codes are present. If no codes then it's just software.
@@BeardedFordTechNo I don’t think you fully understand. All 550k are included in the recall. The service procedure asks are the codes present or not. Yes- You change the leadframe and update the calibration. No- You just go to page 5 and perform the calibration and on page 5 it also states some may already have the updated calibration. The main goal in this recall is to get the calibration updated to prevent the 1st gear default when there is a sensor malfunction inside the transmission in which all F150s 2011-2014 were programmed the same when built. Ford wants the leadframe replaced if the faults are found just to squash any issues the customer may be having at the time of the recall.
@brandongarnold ford literally said less than 1% are effected. I've done a few on the 2014 course they weren't a recall at the time or even a TSB. The tab was for 11-13. It's weird they didn't include the 14 cause it's the exact same. I'm really glad I don't have to do them anymore. They aren't hard. But I'm happy the only warranty type stuff I do is for my fleet now.
@@BeardedFordTech They said that 1% of all trucks that are a part of the recall will experience a sudden downshift. Meaning all 550k need the recall but they expect less than 1% will actually experience the problem. The rest will experience no issues and just need the update. They also said that the rate of reported downshifts still remain lower than any other previous 2011-2013 year models.
@@brandongarnold I wonder why the rate is lower when it's the same lead frame as the 11-13. 15 got a different one
I just had this replaced a couple months ago on my 2014. In my case it would down shift to 4th gear, and the speedometer would cut out.
@alanaspurling6469 yep. Sudden downshift. Can be any gear. Only 1% would experience a sudden downshift to 1st. Glad you got it fixed!
This was almost never an issue with fully hydraulic control transmissions, and if it was a problem a simple adjustment to linkage or vacuum modulator fixed it, although valve body work was sometimes required
Its a big reason why I do not own computer controlled vehicles
I would be seriously tempted to stuff an older transmission with an adapter plate in those trucks.
If the factory doesnt make them the way I want.....I can and will.
I have 52 years in automotive repair...so its not an issue for me.
@@donreinke5863 👍
So you still own only carbureted vehicles?
is it safe to drive if it's downshifting. my son's truck is doing this he thought it was the brakes at first then noticed it going to first gear he shut it off and restarted it and was fine it's done it about 3 times I hope it don't screw the transmission up
I wouldn't drive it. That's why there's a safety recall. It's going to need a lead frame if it's downshifting to first. That's the sudden downshift. It can happen from any gear and can cause the rear wheels to lock DO NOT DRIVE IT. Your one of the 1%
Speed sensor...Lol!!
@@DS-ss7vl 🤷♂️. Shift solenoids
just brought my 2014 f-150 4x4 to the dealership this morning for the recall and now my truck is running like crap...drops rpms at idle speed and stalls. what could be causing this? i would have never brought it in if i knew this was gonna happen
@kathrinekeiffer now that is weird. I haven't had any of the ones I reprogrammed at work do this. Why do dealers send stuff out when it's not running right? They didn't do something right. Your the third person to tell me this
yea i find it strange too...my truck was running perfect...also i find when it shifts it kinda hits hard...could it be a faulty reprogram?
should i try a pcm reset?
@kathrinekeiffer a pcm reset? You don't reset your pcm. You reprogram them or program a blank one which is a programmable module installation
For this fix they need to get into the transmission to fi the sensor then update the program? Worried because I bought mine used at 150k and it never had trans oil changed so I never touched it and its got 225k mile now. I've heard changing it can destroy the transmission. Gonna look at it later to see if im in the 1%.
@debourmom 1% will experience a sudden downshift. And will need the lead frame replaced. Not a sensor. It attaches to the shift solenoids. Then program the pcm. If it doesn't need a lead frame the a pcm program will be done. Email me your vin. I'll tell you what it needs
@@BeardedFordTech thanks for the reply. I sent an email.
@@debourmom jus got it. Will check your VIN when I get back to my house.
I have a 2013 f150 if I send you the VIN number can you tell me if it's been done by the way I bought it used
I like a clutch pedal
@@muddywater6856 me too. But they also have issues in the Mustang. The clutch master cylinder plastic line. Other than that. It'd my preference too.
🤔 1% is an estimate by Ford, who has a vested interest in low balling it.
You said you did a lot of them back in 2014. So it seems like one place seeing a lot of them back then, points to likely more than 5500.
@@klesko55 1% need a lead frame. They all need a pcm update. See shirt in pinned comment
I’m getting the recall done 7.17 .24. Local dealer is coming to my work. Do I really need this done?
@woofersd2383 yes. If the pcm isn't up to date you can have a major problem.
Okeydoke thank you.
@@woofersd2383 your welcome
I bought a used f150 2013 if I send you the VIN numbers could you tell me if it's been done
@@RonnieYoung-zx8wu yes I can
How about a recall on 2020 5.0 for oil consumption.
Yeah I do believe there is a TSB for that. For the 18 and 19 too. My buddies 18 consumes oil. I have to reprogram his pcm and put a new dipstick in it for him. I can double check on this for you if you email me your VIN. I can see if you have any open recalls or outstanding service actions.
If your wheels lock up and you crash, it’s 100%, not 1%.
1% of affected vehicles experience the sudden downshift. Not 100% the others are a pcm update. I understand I wasn't clear on this. That's why there's a shirt in the pinned comments. Might want to go check that. So not it's not 100%
I was told my 2013 was only covered up to 150000 ?
This recall is for the 2014. For the 2013 it was a TSB and covered under extended warranty. Email me your vin. I'll tell you what warranty you have
@@BeardedFordTech I had the valve body and solenoids replaced twice still same problem was told I had to pay for it.I have driven Ford trucks my whole life I ended up trading it in on a new Ram so sad that everyone is building junk and doesn't want to cover anything
@JamesKumm-q5l valve body isn't the issue. It's the lead frame then a pcm update. That's why it was replaced twice cause that wasn't the issue. I'm sorry youngot screwed over. If I would have known this when it happened I could have saved you time and money. I feel bad now cause that happened. That's why I do these videos so people can understand and I can help them along the way
So what you're saying is get ready for the 2015 recall
@@killer2600 15 had a totally different lead frame.
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Truck only has 53K miles.
I wish I would have never bought it.
When it runs it runs well except for terrible mileage.
The P2183 code & PO26A
I have had a 96 PS for 30 years?
No problems but clutch ever & 20 MPG
I was a Caterpillar Mechanic for 25 yrs
On 2019
Map sensor dirty
Cooler clean
No water leaks
Going to look at air intake for Carbon blockage and purge cooling systems especially #2 cooling system.
Help Truck loses power under load ?
Thought EGR issue - no codes & Manifold clean ?
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Send me an email. It's in about me section. Send me the vin number with all the codes you have and symptoms. We will go from there
Regardless if it's only 1% or not that 5,500 trucks that could lose control and cause others to be harmed so the number of people that are at risk goes up exponentially when you factor in the collateral damages. That's bad. That is a big deal.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. Of course it is. But it can regain signal. There were very very few instances where it locked up the rear. We don't want anyone getting hurt. And I agree with your statement
What about 🎉2016
@pln8775 what about the 2016? Do you see it anywhere on the recall notice I showed where is said 2014 model year? So no the 2016 isn't affected. Literally said clear as day multiple times. Watch the video pay attention. It shows what year is affected and what will be done to it.
More Ford shit I'm not surprised Ford has the most recalls of any. Truck maker
@@markmcentire656 actually honda does. They have the most recalls of any auto maker. Or did. Have a great day
I had to replace the lead frame on my 2017 5.0 six speed it didn’t drop to 1st gear but it wouldn’t come out of 3rd this was around 120,000 km or roughly 72,000 miles for my friends south of the border. They also replaced the valve body because for some reason it was quicker to get both units already put together than to just get the lead frame , any way it cost me $3,800 Canadian l wonder if ford will reimburse me (lol)
@chrisstackhouse8374 not for the 2017 they won't reimburse you. Yes it is quicker to get the valve body because it already comes with the frame. If your doing just the frame you have to remove valve body anyway. Then separate it.
Does Ford cover plastic surgery after your face kisses the windshield Ford has more problems just this the transmission right now they're having trouble with air conditioning compressors airbags vehicles from Chicago assembly with parts falling off them we probably pushed 34,000 trucks through the doors here
@user-yb9jr3dt7y every car has airbag problems. It's where they get the cheap parts from. This recall came out just in time to be out of the 10yr 150k mile. You notice that? Cause the 11-13 did the same thing. It's nothing new. You named the problem. Should have done it in all caps though. I'll do it for you. CHICAGO. Nothing good comes from there or california.
@@BeardedFordTech I agree young man we had a voltage leak down from one of the the battery ran 2025 f250 they don't know what happened they just replaced all the parts and now with the 24s they're having trouble with the air conditioning units and once again like you said cheap parts but Fords blaming the compressor parts maker but it's on a Ford truck so who do you blame
@@user-yb9jr3dt7y yeah. I get you. People just don't understand that ford isn't the one who makes it. They got to point the finger at someone though.
@@BeardedFordTech let me tell you something brother it's on their truck though this equity and diversity and inclusion horseshit is wrecking America I know the tow truck driver was injured when he pushed the button on the 25 to put it on the truck the DC voltage Cooks you from the inside
@@user-yb9jr3dt7y 🤦♂️
2015 to 2017 the most reliable so I have been told have the updated lead frame. I have a 2017 bought used had the pan dropped and a flush afterward 112k on it it shifts as it should but when coasting to a stop after the indicator says it downshifted into first I fell a bump after indication a downshift happens sometimes no rime or reason cold or hot any ideas.
@user-nq4em4tu3u like a really hard bump? Or just a very slight bump? Yes 2015-2017 got an updated lead frame
Oh and off topic have you heard of a cat piss smell after a rain or going through a car wash its the 3rd brake light leaking the headliner has a glue when wet smells like this. Made aware of this by another channel the name escapes me thought I would share this with you.
@user-nq4em4tu3u have not come across that except for a moldy cabin air filter. Yes the f1t0 has a cabin air filter from 2015-present