This is such and important topic and I love hearing all of your different life perspectives! We'll definitely have to do a follow-up sometime and dig intona few more things. Love the discussion. May God bless each of you women in your pursuits! 🧡
Please read a good, thoughtful book about feminism. You actually embody more femininst principles than you seem to be aware of. There is no 'feminist agenda' in a real book about feminism. That is a political statement.
Obviously, whoever wrote the comment calling TRAD wives swindlers, never read about the Proverbs 31 woman.😂 She was the wife of a governing official, mom, merchandiser, chef, realtor, vineyard owner, counselor, and manager. She served the poor and needy. Oh, and don't forget...she was STRONG 💪 ❤ Great answers ladies!! Love it!
I say it every time, just because I want to make sure you and your audience know-any woman who talks down on women who choose a career as a homemaker, or subscribes to traditional gender roles in their own individual lives is not a feminist. Feminism is having the opportunity to make the choice for yourself.
Feminism is equal rights. People in this sphere tend to generalise gender roles and want to impose them. No one bans u from staying home but u ban reproductive rights for instance.
However, the tension between feminists and "traditional wives" is almost perfectly symmetrical. Whilst you are correct in saying that feminists largely look down upon "homemaking" as a legitimate path for women, equally, "traditional wives" (or Christians, broadly) often are condescending (or admonishing) to those who choose a career over a family. Neither group believes in giving girls/women options. They each, tribally, believe that there is *only* one correct way: earning a living for the feminists, or staying at home and raising children for the traditional wives; this, with very, very little room for compromise.
This was an interesting discussion and yes…I’m a feminist. I’m almost 72 years old and I well remember the days when men were paid more than women and both were doing the same job. When I was first married I could not get my own credit card. I had to have one under my husbands name and I made more money than he, we both had professional jobs but mine paid more. When women wanted to purchase a car, they had to have their husbands co-sign so when I say I’m a feminist, I believe in equal pay for equal work. We are partners and work together and share in decision making. If a couple decides that the woman will stay home and raise the children, it’s a decision they make together and share in the monetary rewards of the “breadwinner”. No one is more important than the other from my perspective. A homemaker, and whether you work outside the home or not, you’re making a home for your family and it is hard to care for your family and work outside the home. Some just don’t have many options. Such an interesting discussion.
I'm in my 30s and have worked in a role where my male counterpart was paid more than me, we did the exact same job with the same tasks and did it in the same time. It didn't make sense.
@@emloufox Unfortunately, with the huge living/housing costs (at least here in the UK), most people simply can't afford to have just one person being the breadwinner. I do believe that people should be paid fairly and equally, no matter what their gender is.
@@emloufox Who said anything about women making more? We are asking for equal pay for the same work. Many women are breadwinners for their families, btw.
@@emloufox where do find that logic?! If a woman was your husband's boss she would be paid more than him. And what if a working woman was unmarried and didn't have a husband to 'provide ' for her - should she be paid less than a man doing the same job? It doesn't matter what the job is, the pay shoud be the same. I work in healthcare and our wages are nationally set so men and women are paid the same - thank goodness.
As a Christian woman who as worked in the corporate world for almost 5 years, nothing brings contentment like Jesus and family. No amount of money or awards has ever brought me more joy than my Christian community and husband. I'm currently expecting my first baby and we have already made the decision for me to stay home with my children from now on. Making 6 figures doesn't bring me worth but being the woman, wife, and soon to be mom God has called me to be will always give me worth! ❤
I'm a fellow Mennonite wife and mom who works as a part-time nurse 3 days a week. I have experienced a lot of pushback from other stay at home moms for my decision to work. However, very few of them are solely homemakers. Most of them have little side businesses or clean houses to generate income. The irony of what they say vs how they actually live is upsetting.
I honestly don’t know how families could get by in this economy without having two incomes, even if the second one is from part time or side work! Raising kids is an incredible life path but it isn’t inexpensive!
I think nuance is necessary on the topic of homemaking. If you put your job above your duty as a housewife and mother, that is against the Bible. If you can stay home but choose to not do it to feel "empowered" and modern, you are putting the modern culture and your pride above your duty as a woman. Nevertheless, having to work out of necessity is not wrong at all. Women working becomes an issue when you do it despite not having to and when it goes above your role as a Godly woman. The women you talk about that have side businesses have businesses that allow them to earn money while staying home for the most part.
Childcare is expensive, especially with multiples. Unless someone has free/low-cost childcare or has a larger salary, I personally don't know how moms can afford to go to work 🤷
Earning money is in no way incompatible with being a good wife. The Proverbs wife is clearly making her own money, she’s investing in real estate! But her heart is primarily with her husband and family, and being the keeper of her home.
hello fellow part time healthcare worker! thank you for all you do as a nurse! I'm sorry they've pushed back at you just for working. it's hard not to have double income households these days and hey, work can be fulfilling and something to do.
Jana, I agree with you about having your time filled. Megan doesn't have six kids and she doesn't even do all her own housekeeping she has her sister cleaning her house
Full time homemaker with no littles yet here! I get a lot of pushback in my personal life for being a homemaker. Interestingly enough though I never get judgement or condemnation from people in my age range (I’m in my twenties). We felt like when I worked we just spent more money because I was exhausted with long hospital shifts to do any housework or take care of myself. Or we were on opposite shifts and were becoming roommates not a married couple. My husband is a high earner so why would we both work. I’ve also had a lot of health challenges and I’ve been so thankful my husband does not make me work so I could prioritize my health. I love y’all’s podcast 💕
Yeah, I think the filling your time thing is what they were getting at mostly. I don’t think taking care of a two adult household by itself ( unless medical reasons exist) without any other outlets or giving of time would be good for anyone. Like she said I think it would be really easy to do what needs to be done and just kinda hang about. That doesn’t feel good mentally or physically after a little bit. So many ways and places to serve or help friends, family, schools, organizations etc in one way or another, that is a blessing to them and makes us feel good too 🙂
Hey, from a fellow stay at home wife! 😉 Similar situation here! Both my husband and I knew that we wanted me to stay home when we have kids and decided to have me just start out that way. The filling your time up thing is huge! Honestly there are days were just chilling is sooo tempting, but I have been working on using that down time to serve and help others. We host a lot, have a tight community, and live on 4 acres. There’s always something to do, if you just take the time to looks! And I know it’s a blessing to be in the financial state to be able to have me stay at home. Asking people, including my dear husband, to help keep me accountable in keeping busy and not caving to lazy ideas was so helpful! Having people ask me “what do you do all day anyway?” can be hurtful and feel like you’re not worth very much. But it can also be fuel to making sure I am using my time wisely and not wasting it! Nothing wrong with spoiling your husband a little extra in this season either! 😉 (though I don’t take off his shoes when we comes home! 🙃) Appreciated the podcast! We all have our own point of view and adding mine to the table! ☺️ And it was sweet to hear I’m not the only one out there! ☺️
@@katiebwheeler Yes, serving others outside of our household is definitely something that is most important! Sorry, I deleted my previous comment because I think I was a bit passive/aggressive and defensive for various personal reasons that I'm working on (i.e. the grass is always greener on the other side) 😊Sometimes it's hard for the single working gals to not envy the ones who get to stay at home.😉
My husband's income is moderate, but I'm still able to stay home. It gives me the opportunity to budget and stretch the our money in ways we couldn't do, if I was working outside the home as well. As for filling time, we live a five minute walk away from our church building, so I get to have daily fellowship with everyone else who isn't out working, and contribute time and energy to cleaning the church building, mending and adjusting clothes for people in our church, bringing a sick church member a cup of tea, visiting an older lady to play board games with her... I'd say the days do fill up well and I wouldn't have it any other way 😊
I am a mother of seven now adult children. So I think I have some experience, I was a stay at home full time homemaker . Or a baby butt wiping machine 😅but also so much more . I felt fulfilled and useful! There’s truth in the saying The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world . I still had time to be creative, reading , writing , gardening. Godliness with contentment is great gain whatever situation you find yourself in .
@@jacklynnsmith5668AMEN! I raised/homeschooled 5(now all grown & married) & I totally enjoyed my time at home. We spent afternoons crafting together, going on fun outings. Totally fulfilled & content!❤
I'm 26 and I'm single. I guess you would call me a homemaker. my Mama passed away unexpectedly last year and I take care of all of the household duties (cooking, cleaning, laundry and scheduling) for my Dad and 4 siblings (I have 6 siblings) that are still at home and I also babysit at home. I love what I do. My calling is to be a stay at home wife and mama, I am waiting on the LORD to send the godly man that He has for me.
I consider myself a feminist but I 100% respect anyone's choice to be a stay at home mom. And fortunately so do any of the feminists I personally associate with haha. I wouldn't want to be around folks who can't see the value in all that mothers do.
@@saram3156 I think extremists of all flavors aren't generally good, but depends on what you're talking about. Context is everything. I have a strong dislike of religious extremists personally, but I also have strong feelings on religion in general 🙂
@@saram3156 my comment was simply made as a polite way not to get into a philosophical discussion in the comments of a TH-cam video 🙂 have a great day!
I just want to point out that feminism isn’t inherently against homemaking and motherhood. Of course, some “feminists” have downgraded the role of a homemaker, but ultimately, feminism is about women’s right to choose what they do.
Totally agree with this! Feminism can be embracing the beauty in being a woman and our natural talent given by God. It’s about how our talents and gifts aren’t any less than than of a man, they’re just different. As you said we were put here for different purposes. Modern society values money and strength over femininity and gentleness.
Yes!! Well said!! I consider myself a feminist. I happen to be a full time working mom but I do not look down at stay at home mothers at all. I have so much respect for people who choose that and have considered it many times myself! I do believe true feminists are women supporting women in what makes that person happy. Unfortunately there are people on both sides who take things to the extreme and become very women/mom judging, which is incredibly sad.
Agreed! Though I will say, we can’t exclude feminists who make degrading comments to homemakers as “feminists” (as in, putting them in quotation marks as if they don’t count) because just like any other group we are required to call in bad actors who are making us look bad. They’re feminists but they need to be informed that their specific ideology is harmful towards women. The worst members of every group are the ones who define the group to outsiders and frankly give everybody else in the group a bad name.
Feminism started with giving women the right to vote and the right to work. Elites such as the Rockeffellers wanted to convince women to work so there could be more taxpayers. It about never about a woman’s well being. Feminism was Satanic from the beginning as it goes against the word of God. Don’t be fooled.
Completely! I fully consider myself a feminist, was raised by a feminist mother who stayed at home with us and was a traditional housewife. I mostly stay home with my kids too. I don’t always like how Megan paints feminists or the supposed “feminist agenda.” Anyone putting down a woman for living her life how she wants to is the complete opposite of a feminist!
I absolutely agree with Jayna about not needing anything aside from being a mother and homemaker. I think this largely depends on the person and their personality. Some people are more prone to do a lot and be busy, some aren’t.
Yes, I am sure. There is a ditch on both sides. Those who don't have anything else need to be careful not to lose themselves completely and their own likes and personality. Those who have other endevours need to always be rechecking their priorities and making sure they are still making motherhood a priority!
Loved this conversation. I have to say as a woman who does not have children and does not work, here is my point of view on that. I delayed being a full time homemaker because I felt like people would question that since I don't have children. It was a give in, that if we did have children, I would be home with them. But I still really had the desire to be home. When my husband and I made that decision, he gave me the confidence to do so and I am very grateful. I don't need to bring in an income to feel valuable. When I first stopped working, I had a couple years that were very busy but also incredibly fulfilling as I had time to give to a couple people that needed someone. Then we moved and I found myself with much more free time as I didn't have many people I knew but I also had a lot to do to get us settled into a new area. Yes, I picked up the "hobby" of TH-cam but even without that, I find that my time is full taking care of the home and hopefully making my husbands life easier and more enjoyable when he is not working. The season where I was working full time, I couldn't grasp why some women with children choose to do that even if they don't have to. I felt like we were always going in a million directions, didn't have time to eat a healthy meal and we were just working our lives away. Now that I am home and have time to take care of our needs throughout the day, I feel like we have more time for each other, more time for enjoying life and also enjoy our home cooked meals. Okay, I didn't mean to leave such a long comment but I do love this topic. ☺
Loved this comment and just subscribed to your channel simply enjoying life! I’m a homemaker with no babies (yet) and I’ve been enjoying it so much. I’m very grateful for the opportunity to stay home. My husband loves it too and he is so supportive which is nice. I try to encourage newly married girls around me to do the same if they have the desire to stay home. I find it sad that so many women get pressured into working because they don’t feel like they have a good reason to stay home without kids. Homemaking is such a blessing no matter what season of life you are in ❤️
As a fellow housewife without kids, I'm excited to find your channel. I honestly don't know how I ever had time to work full-time! Just subscribed to your channel to follow someone like-minded.
@@tammywilson6091 Well thank you Tammy! I think there are more of "us" than we know but it does seem hard to find each other at times. I don't miss the days of working full-time at all. I'm happy and proud to be a homemaker. ❤
I think your comment really demonstrates how different people thrive in different situations. It's obvious for you that being a homemaker makes you feel fulfilled and provides you with a lifestyle you love. I do work but I haven't found that my husband and I are too busy to cook and enjoy healthy homecooked meals.
I loved listening to this podcast as a woman who is currently working in my career of choice, i love and respect your lifestyle choice. There are so many great things about being a woman.
This topic has been heavy on my heart. I started working for the postal service when i was 19. My now husband and i had just started dating. I put in 11 years until i finally got a full time position.. Still had no children.. 4 years after getting full time we had our 1st and i cannot even describe the heart ache my first day back after maternity leave. I bawled all day it felt so wrong. She is now 2 and i still struggle. I pray and pray God will make a way. I fully believe no amount of money/ benefits is worth it. A childs mother is irreplaceable
The grass is always greener on the other side. That has always been my take on working vs non-working women. I was a mother/wife/woman who worked the 8-5 M-F job out of necessity. My husband is self employed owning a retail store. No health insurance, rarely paid himself etc. I worked mainly for our health insurance, tithing, tuition at a private school for our sons, paid bills etc. I did this for 36 years. We lived a very simple life. Rarely took vacations; we were very thrifty; I wasn't working to have the best of everything. I lived on a budget. I had a wonderful boss who was very family oriented. I never missed an activity for my sons. I had no outside activities once I got off work. I dedicated every non-at-work moment with my sons. I did my best. And of course, I looked at the stay at home mother and wished I could stay at home. However, often times, my stay at home mothers would comment, "you are so lucky to be able to get out everyday and work and not be "stuck at home"....seems as though no one was content. Looking back, I was the best mother I could have been and the best employee I could have been. My sons are wonderful men; husbands, fathers, teachers, coaches. They are great. They turned out great. But by the grace of God, they turned out great!! I can't look back with regrets. I did my best. I 100% support all women, working or non-working. We have to support one another and know that basically we are all trying our best to do what's best for our families. Thank you for your podcast. I always learn something new!
Yes we'll said I hope you don't get negative feed back everything you said is valid for so many women who need to work to help their family financially
I am also a stay at home housewife and mother, and agree that a lot of us have side hussles where we do pull in a little money... however when you need to start pawning your kids off to do said side hussle, or have someone clean your home, then its no different than the moms who have a job outside the home and have a day care watch the children, no matter how often that happens. The hussle/job takes away from your homemaking and motherly duties.
Interesting episode! You said something along the lines of, “it makes you realize that to be a good mom this is what you have to be…” regarding your fellow TH-camr Hailey Paige. This line struck a nerve in me. As a teacher who works outside of the home I don’t agree that “good” moms must stay home in order to be considered good. Women supporting women in all their circumstances is really where it’s at.
I’m technically a stay at home wife. Maybe how my days unfold only reflects my experience, but I thought showing my situation could shed some light on taking this season and using it well. For some useful context, I finished a Ph. D in physical chemistry about a year ago. I’ve viewed this time mostly as a break before working in a lab again, but technically I’m a stay at home wife and my husband is the sole income for us. We also live in an apartment, so there is not that much housework to be done. To schedule my days I have rungs of priorities that I consider. The unmovable staples are my time with God and one-on-one time with my husband. Second priorities are the work I feel like God has for me right now, visiting sick church members/driving them to appointments, babysitting, meeting newer church members to develop those discipling relationships, helping friends with random tasks that would otherwise not be accomplished (sewing, furniture building, moving heavy things…), and having intentional conversation with non-Christian friends. Third priorities are my hobbies or personal goals, such as finishing writing my scientific results, sewing, fishing, weightlifting, ect. Planning each day I make sure the top priorities happen (even if it isn’t for much time). Then I look at the week as a whole and schedule 1 second rung priority per day. The rest of the time goes to third tier priorities, with an emphasis on the most useful first. Right now, I’m mostly using this discretionary time for scientific reading and writing, with 1-2 hrs daily for the purely pleasure activities like exercise, piano, sewing… I know this time won’t last forever, but until God moves me on I’m going to keep doing the work He has given me; caring for others, resting, and slowly working on advancing science.
you ladies are a breathe of fresh air. I often reflect on my choices to work outside of the home and if I could have a do over I would have stayed home.
I enjoyed this conversation and love following along. I am an attorney, I work remotely, likely less hours than you Megan (you are amazing!). I love this - it allows me to be with my daughter (we homeschool) and still nurse my 15 month old. I love my family and home and doing all the homemaking things while also having something that uses my skills while supplementing our income. I feel fortunate as it sometimes feels like the best of both worlds. I would never and could never go back into an office and working away from my kids ❤
My paralegal sister-in-law did the same. It wasn't until recently, as her daughters became adolescents, that she began to take on more hours at the office in person. Now she has only one day at home during her work days. My brother still makes more money than her, but she's too social to be a full-time SAHM. They also live near Denver, and that's expensive. As a SAHM in rural Colorado, it's financially better for my family if I stay at home. The pay of most full-time jobs in this area is mediocre, and the only part-time job jobs available are mostly self-employment, mostly in housekeeping (cleaning under the two major local companies means they have more say in your hours). My situation is also different than normal because my husband has his own remodel business, and I work a few hours for him. I don't have to worry about looking for outside work, and my boss is flexible, lol.
I don't think you can generalize that all women who are keepers home NEED something outside the home to feel you are fulfilling a purpose. That can be different from person to person and from stage of life to stage of life. I agree with Jayna that you can feel fulfilled and content being a keeper at home. I believe your purpose is to fulfill what God has planned for you, and there ALL kinds of ways to do that. It takes all the different types of people to make up the whole body of Christ.
"Trad Wives" have been around for years on Instagram, and some of the most popular influencers scare me. My lifestyle probably looks "traditional" in many ways, but I stay far away from those accounts. They all seem to make idols of their husbands to worship, they are all genius infallible Popes who mustn't ever be questioned, lest their manliness disintegrates. And I can't imagine how any of these women, with these mindsets of such "delicate" femininity, could have survived my grandmother's life on a farm in Poland 😂 Most of these critiques of "Feminism" to me sound like critiques actually of Capitalism though, with which I might agree 😆
I just want you to know I loved this episode. And I’m not Christian, I’m Muslim, and I’m just as passionate about god as you ladies are. This was great!
I hope you know that many, many, many ( i think all of them. in my life) people that call themselves feminist or modern have no 'agenda' against SAHM, modest women, traditional wives, christian women. To be a "modern women" is to truly have absolutely no problem with how other women want to live their lives :) it may be online, but its not the majority!
The idea that women are there to support each other is wonderful. The "volume" in social media seems very loud and concentrated, but I agree with you that my real life friends and neighbors are much more supportive and accepting.
I'd rebut that a little, because I had a lot of nasty comments from female feminist "friends" when I got married and became a SAHW. Lots of putdowns and rude remarks despite it being a choice I made. One friend said even though I was happy it made her angry. I had family members be quite unpleasant too. Once I got pregnant, they acted like I had leprosy and all stopped speaking to me when I told them the news. Haven't heard from a single friend since then. Idk just my experience, but maybe I'm a real brat to be around and it was that instead ☺️
I am 74 yr old and I'm a retired nurse. I was not able to have children and , while I understand that I missed out on something very special, I also found nursing to be very fullfilling. I worked full time in Intensive care as long as I could then went to a part time job in dialysis the final few years because my back just refused to do bedside care in ICU any longer. I did my best to keep my home well, and do all the housewife chores well but I would sometimes fall short on that. I never felt guilty about it though, as long as your doing your best, your best is ALL you can do. I would never have considered being a 100% stay at home housewife because I had to work very very hard to become a nurse & I was not about to waste it. Since I retired I do find that sometimes the days go on & on exactly the same , over & over. I clean , I sew, I go to aerobics, I shop but I don't really find it very mentally stimulating.So if I were much younger and totally physically able, I would go insane staying home every day.
Loved this episode!! I am a Christian and come from a Christian family and yet am always judged for wanting to stay home with my kids. I felt a strong conviction to stay home even at the risk of having to live very frugally and I even had a mental breakdown about leaving my oldest at daycare when I never wanted to be doing that in the first place. I’m truly my happiest right now with my almost three kids at home. I can say I’m able to be a mom WELL now compared to before when I was pulled in too many directions
I couldn’t agree more. Homemaking and motherhood are wonderful roles that I feel fortunate to have been able to enjoy. I did become a RN and work outside the home for many years but I especially treasure my years at home with our children!
We need MORE Honey I’m a Homemaker videos !! Love Jayna !! She seems so real and not just trying to show she lives the “perfect” TH-cam life to drink fancy coffee, make money and get free items from advertisers like so many TH-camrs are doing now.
It's not a privilege to not be able to afford childcare, most of us absolutely do not have a choice. This is what I want to do, raise my children, homeschool, have a homestead, this is what I AM doing, but it's not coming from privilege. There's nothing privileged about being able to afford nothing but basics at ~40k a year lol!
@@corablah9809 The privilege is that you don't have to go to work and leave your children. Some families literally cannot make it on one income. At least for a time.
Yes I agree with you Jayna, God has called us wives to be keepers of the home and to raise the children he has given us. He did not instruct us to run a side Hussle if we have any spare minute, in order to be making good use of the time we have. All of us as mother's choose to use our spare time in a huge variety of ways. But the mom's that don't run a side Hussle are not any less than the moms that have a small business/job, etc. The most important work is within the walls of our home. 🤍
Such an interesting discussion. I'm a feminist. I don't believe that a person (whether male or female) has to join the workforce or has to stay at home. It's all about having a choice. God gave us all individual talents. Why should a woman who wants to be a doctor not study medicine and do just that. Why should a man who wants to stay home with his kiddos not do that? God made us all unique and everyone has their one purpose. If god made me, then I should use my god given talents to the best of my ability and to serve others as best as I can regardless of any roles other people expect of me.
Exactly. I'm a feminist as well and I 100% support every woman who wants to be a SAHW or SAHM if that is her own free decision. I would never presume to tell another woman what she should want in her life or do with her life. By the same token, I don't appreciate other women telling me that it is unnatural for me to want and have a professional career. Can being a SAHW/M be fulfilling? Sure, as much as anything else. Is it a waste of her mind? Not inherently; only if she herself feels that way. Does that mean that staying at home is the best thing for every woman? Of course not. We as people differ in so many regards that the idea of a one-size-fits-all approach to life seems absurd to me.
Feminist here 🙋♀️ to share my point of view. Feminism is about te concept of women and men having the same rights. But like you know, there are extremes in everything, and those people who you were calling are not “feminist” , they are extremist. Because feminism is about the concept of women CHOOSING their own faith and having that power of voice, no matter of what a man says. And if a woman conscientiously chooses to be a SAHM or a housemaker, that is hers and only hers opinion to have. Feminism is about women having a voice , that is equal to a men’s voice. Yes, biologically we’re diferente, but in terms of rights we should have all the same rights and should not be limited by our genre. I believe you would agree with me! Like I said, I am a “modern woman” but I really sympathise with your lifestyle and actually really admire a lot of aspects 🥰🥰🥰 But may I say, we disagree when you use the word submission, and the man being the CEO. I understand the extremists when they say that they fought really really hard to break free from that dominant life, and the man should not be the one who makes the last decision, nor the woman! It should always be a union, a connection and a team work. Yes, it’s a hard work. But it’s worth it, and it strengthens the bomd and the connection with your partner. But yes, the extremist can go far with this vision, like publicly shaming a woman for her lifestyle is horrible and just mean. With that said, I wish you all ladies the best ❤️
I almost didn't listen to this episode because I didn't want to hear about their takes of the "feminist agenda" as I agree with you. Feminism is equal rights for all and choice.
@@nesser1352 oh you should always be open to others perspectives! I understand you but I also understand them. We should not use criticism for people who choose their own paths without hurting others, and I really love Megan’s channel! Yes , I wasn’t a fan of the word “feminist agenda” being used here, but everyone makes mistakes! We are all learning something new everyday. Ans Yes, I am a “modern woman” as they would say, but I always have much to learn from them, like they have with us, even though we each keep our own individual faiths and lifestyles.
Thank you @mafaldam1792 for this thoughtful comment, I too am a “modern woman” and often feel they use word feminist to talk about an extreme point of view. As a feminist and a women we should all lift each other up especially in motherhood and not criticize if someone chooses to be a SAHM or a working mom. 😊 I will say I always look forward to listening to there podcast and hearing their views even if I don’t always agree.
@@joannasanchez7474 Exactly! And I wish you all the best, I am sure you are doing an amazing job being a mom to your children, you really are the best mother they could have 🥰 And life is full of ups and downs, and after a low there’s always a high… and you’ll get through them ❤️ The universe/God/ what faith you have, doesn’t place obstacles in our way that we can not face and overcome. Thought you might need that! Much love 💗
I’m a newly married Mennonite gal. Im also a nurse and find a lot of fulfillment in bringing in some money too . And def agree with you abt the newly married girls that don’t have a job or don’t appear to be filling their time wisely . I love your channel keep up the good content
Ooooo I can add something to this! I quit my job in law enforcement when I got married (too dangerous and volatile) and we wanted to have babies right away, so I didn't find another job, instead I worked my tail off renovating our house and landscaping our yard and installing a huge veggie patch and orchard. I worked so hard! We have wood floors instead of ratty carpet and flowers and our home is now calm and beautiful to be in, but I've seen the reverse too, where fresh wives kinda mooch about. It always reminds me of the verse about women visiting and gossiping and convicts me to work really hard at home!
Y'all are already making positive changes in society already! I've been seeing the Trad Wife trend as well and Trad Life in general. Seems that a revival is going on among Christians not only here in our country but Western Civilization in general. I'd say y'all are helping change people's hearts and minds and making Biblical lifestyles "Cool" again. Each vid you and your fellow Christians make helps expand and grow people's interest in traditional beliefs. Keep up the good work and speak out as loud as you like. Good is winning. 🎥🌼🌸🎙️
It sounds as though you believe that moms and wives who work outside the home are not "good" or "positive" influences and somehow need to be changed to fit your idea of a perfect world. That is just as disparaging as it is when SAHM are put down.
@@ga6589 It's really about God and how he created the World. We live in a very fast paced society and few people like that idea. It took time before people realized it. God's ways are so simple in how he created unique roles for us in life. Some people now see greater value in being Christian Agrarians, Homesteaders, Homemakers, independent business owners, working for small Christian focused businesses, and so on. Spending more time together as a family. Things like that. People are looking for a more simple life now and a much safer life at that. 📝
@@brianpace7866 You're still making a huge assumption about what you believe most people want out of life and what you think is best for everyone. IMO, that's gaslighting those who don't subscribe to your particular religious beliefs or ideas about "unique roles" for people. If being a homesteader, small business owner, or SAHM is something that works for you, that's great. However, it's important to understand that people can be happy and fulfilled following a completely different path, even with no religious affiliation at all.
I really appreciate Jayna’s input about filling your time with worthwhile things. I am a stay at home mom and my kids are getting older so they don’t require as much from me. I am also a Christian so I believe God made us to fill the roles he created for us. So I am now looking at my time and I want to fill it with worthwhile things. Thank you ladies!
I literally do not know a single feminist that is against a woman’s choice to stay at home - choice is the center of it all. I think it’s an argument put on women but not from women.
Older Christian woman here - I love listening for your perspectives - I agree 💯 interesting how Jesus is/was submissive to the Father - and demonstrates it so well - yes it’s about order 🧡
This is similar to what I was thinking. Megan was basically saying that submission is an agreement between husband and wife that husband will take the lead role. The idea of biblical submission makes more sense to me when I realize that I am allowing my husband to lead. This is much more an agreement between myself and God than it is between myself and my husband. As a strong capable woman (raised by an empowering feminist single mother in the 60s-70s) I can definitely say that the act of submission is choosing to follow, rather than simply not being the one to lead. It is a lifelong journey, for sure, and there are many rewards.
I’m blessed to mostly be a stay at home mom. I recently started substituting at a church preschool and I love it. I can make some extra money while maintaining my home for my family.
Gosh, my husband's goal is to be the stay at home Dad! 😂 I am the fulltime SAHM only because he makes more $ and we have 4 littles...but now I kinda want us both to be home and have an online business that supports us all ❤
I am almost 61 years old. I was a SAHM for the first 13 years of my children’s lives and I loved it. However, I had to work outside the home for the past 28 years and it is okay. I was still there for my, now adult, children, even before I had to work outside the home, my children were taught how to do basic home chores that included laundry, cleaning, cooking and baking and my husband and I taught them that as a family we all were accountable to maintaining the home. Yes, we are a Christian family, yes, we espouse strong traditional families. However, we raised our children to get higher education or Vocational training to have a job that will support themselves and eventually a family- which they have done, though our son has become a stay at home dad because his wife makes more $ and his monthly paycheck went to daycare with nothing leftover, so they decided that dad would stay home and raise their children instead of a daycare or school system and it works for them! I have the utmost respect for any woman who either is a “trad wife” or works outside the home because I don’t and won’t judge them, just as I celebrate any dad who chooses to stay home with the children- because raising our children is the most important job any of has! And so those who wonder, my husband does help around the house- he does the cooking and vacuums and maintains our yard and garden while I do the rest- the budget, bill paying, cleaning, laundry, pets- we work together utilizing and balancing our strengths. It’s not a 50-50 relationship, it’s a marriage where balance is where one may give 80% one week but the following week it might be the other giving 90%- and those strengths and weaknesses work together to create a bond and love that nothing else can work against.
I was a stay at home, mom or a.k.a. trad for many years to four children. I personally was not fulfilled, I needed more. I now am in leadership for the corporate world, I work from home. I am definitely fulfilled now and proud of my position as well as still being “at home “. I believe it depends on the person.
What do you mean “the feminists”? Who is the “they” in this conversation? Feminism is defined as supporting that women should have the same opportunities and legal rights as men. I’d love to hear more what you mean?
That's why I said I didn't want to call them feminists because I know the women we were referencing were the extreme. So what should we label those women? I'm not sure. Obviously they aren't speaking for all feminists. Although I don't consider my self a feminist, I think they do have have few view points that I agree with!
Tradwife here ❤ I love you guys so much even if we don’t have all of the same views I respect your message and enjoy your content. I will forever support women.
Ladies love it all of it!! I am an amish lady and understand exactly where you are coming from. I am currently married for 6 month and work 3 days a week in an office mostly so I don't get lazy. But enjoy homemaking way over my job but I am determined to not be a lazy woman.
I have really been struggling as a mom of 4 kids under 4 . Last 2 being twins, my Health, Postpartum endometriosis. Miscarriage, and migraines from lack of sleep and cooking 3 meals a days, cleaning the house and sewing for myself and 2 daughters. ... what I've struggled with the most is : being called ( just a stay at home mom) and those friends and family who are always on a schedule due to their job - they can pretend to be busier and not having alot of lady's understand me . Feeling alone and a way! I've been blessed with a very helpful husband however he is self employed and a very busy needed man ! I've grown alot I've learned alot but i cloud use a day off from mother hood and have a glance or something else in my life to recharge.
Thank you both for sharing your thoughts! I agree that in our world today women who seek more of a "trad-wife" type of life are seen as anti-feminist/ignoring progress of the women's movement/degrading to other women, etc. All women should feel empowered to live their lives in the way that makes the most sense to them (hopefully as it relates to their faith as well).
I 100% agree! I should have clarified my squeek a little better! haha! I just have a heart for women to not lose themselves in the busyness of motherhood. We all like to feel human and feminine, and like people sometimes. Too often I see women who chalk motherhood up to just being plain down hard-- which it is. But they just wallow there and don't look to fulfill any of their own interests or longings or needs even. What you are doing is exactly what makes motherhood beautiful and what I believe is a healthy balance. 90% of my friends do not have a part time job or any job at all, and I think that is wonderful. God's blessings on you in this season of life!
@@MeganFoxUnlocked Thank you! I think motherhood and womanhood is constantly evolving and that we are (hopefully) finding an affirming more ways to live positive, faith-driven lives however that may look for someone. I think there's a lot of joy in motherhood, especially as it exists without the presence of a job, and we shouldn't try to erase that as we also advocate for women to be able to have successful careers and jobs. To me, I think of the last 100 years of the women's movement as a bit of a pendulum. On one end, we have patriarchal values encircling our culture keeping separate spheres for men and women and restricting women to the household. For some women, that made them feel disempowered to fulfill the call God has on their lives, so seeking equity in the workforce and society in general was desirable. Now 100 years later, it seems like the predominant message many women hear is that we need to be working women, pursuing careers, and especially avoiding traditional homemaking motherhood. Essentially, the pendulum has swung from one side to the other. Now that we've experienced both sides of the pendulum swing, hopefully we as a society can find a state of equilibrium where women who want to pursue careers/jobs can do so, along with those women who want to stay at home full-time with their kids. It's not that is has to be one or the other, but that women can have the freedom to choose for themselves. All that said, having this choice of being a stay-at-home-mom is certainly a privilege that many women don't have because they need to work for their family. But for those of us who are able to choose to be stay-at-home mommies, we deserve to be uplifted and empowered for that choice just the same as women who choose to pursue a career even if/when they don't have to. :)
Feminists who don't want women to stay at home are an incredibly small (if loud and obnoxious) minority within the feminist movement. For the majority of us, it's about choice: you want to stay at home? Great. You want to work outside the home? Also great. You do you, sis, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Another thing that I would like to point out (not inherently related to feminism) is that working outside the home does not necessarily equal joining the 'corporate world', nor is it always about money or glory. I'm a historian; I work in academia. There's neither big bucks nor glory to be earned in my field, but I love my work because I get to follow my passion and indulge my thirst for knowledge and new discoveries.
Loved this so much!! I am a “trad wife” and wouldn’t want it any other way! I feel so blessed to be able to raise and teach my own children at home! Also to be home when my husband gets home from work! Sometimes me and my toddler even get to go ride around with him for his work and go to his job with him and I know I wouldn’t be able to do any of that if I had a job outside of the home! I feel like this is definitely how God designed it to be and I am so thankful for that!! Thank y’all for this!! Also I have been wondering if y’all will be uploading to apple podcast?
As a woman who has stayed at home and worked outside the home I believe supporting women in either role is the true christ like calling. Being disparaging or acting as your role is better than the other is judgmental and defeats whatever lifestyle you say are called to live. Kindness, compassion, encouragement, loving and living a life where Jesus is first is our true mission in life . Our children are our mission field and they model our thoughts and behaviors. So before we say the role we have is the correct one, check your heart does it align with the Bible? Children will see our attitudes and use that as there markers in the faith. The Bible has examples of women working within the home and outside the home. Pride goes before the fall so remember to whatever role we are called humility is the key to success.
I think this topic is so important because young girls need to see fulfilling roles for women because the mainstream media promotes a skewed point of view of women's roles.
I am a Christian stay at home mom. God told me I needed to stay at home instead of pursue my career. It was difficult because people in our culture can be so judgmental. People would say to me: how are you not broke? What do you do all day? You could babysit my kids or start a daycare! Our church in Salina, KS Revolution Church who is on TH-cam just talked about gender roles this Sunday. Very informative. God is the only fulfillment! For all genders. The role as a stay at home mom is important and valuable. He treasures it and we will receive the reward in heaven. People are going to judge and treat us bad for doing the right thing. We just have to keep our heads up and know we are blessing our families🙏
I consider myself a homemaker without children as I am unable to with my specific disabilities. I’d like to remind everyone that sometimes people’s lives look like this bc of disabilities cropping up after (or even before) the marriage in the first place. Ideally I’d have a job along side my husband but I am unable to work like that. But that doesn’t mean we laze about at home either. We still do all the cleaning and laundry, pet care and meals, as well as struggling harder than the average person to just keep my own self alive. My time is filled with house work, caring for my husband, and hobbies. It just takes more time to do these things. You move slower and have to be in tune with yourself and your bodily needs on a given day that can drastically change the course of the day or even week. To sum it up I just want to remind people not to judge what someone’s life appears to be on the surface, we all deserve grace
Being a traditional wife and mother is what you make it. And the rewards of that life far exceed money and titles. It has worked well for us, but I also understand why so many women either have to work due to circumstances beyond their control, or choose to work. Being a stay at home mother and wife is such hard work and you don't get a paycheck, the appreciation, respect, and acknowlegments that maybe you would in the workplace. You have to be a person that can power through those days because you feel deep down what you chose is best for your family.
Ohh I disagree with Megan. I am a mom to 5 kids 6 months-9 years and homeschool and my time is definitely filled. I feel very content between the Lord and myself with just being at home and serving in this daily capacity. Do I do things that fill my cup, most definitely, but they are in the home. That looks like baking sourdough, gardening, and reading and definitely morning time in the Word. I have zero desire for a “side gig”. I would add since you said being a “baby maker” by choice I would argue God makes babies but also being in the home raising a gaggle of kids for the Lord would be more important than for going that so I could do some”passion of mine” for this world.
I agree.....100%. Even the statement she made about. While I do think you can crack if that is all you do as "baby butt wiping' as she stated I still think there are lovely things you can do as you mentioned without a side gig.
Loved this discussion. I've never seen myself as a stay at home mom. I've worked since I was 15. BUT, as the months and years go by, my heart longs for the day that I can stay at home. Right now, we can't afford it. I work from home, but I'm tied to the computer all day. I loathe my job, but at the end of the day, it's difficult to have one income for a large family.
Oooh, I’m raging over the mind is wasted quote!! I’m a college educated, stay at home, homeschooling mom of three. If I can use my education to guide my children in life and help them be even better people than I am, then I believe I will have succeeded and used my mind for the best purpose.
I truly agree with Jayna that said you can be filled by just taking care of your family and home. Fill your time wisely. I do get it said to me all the time "wished I could stay home" but I do sacrifice a lot to stay home. I choose not to have fancy homes and cars and etc. I also do agree there are hardships that don't allow women to be able to stay home. I honestly feel we can support them and help them through this as a stay at home mom. Make meals for them, babysit and help them. :) Love on them. I also agree with Jayna that this is the godly design in the end though. I do think that even stay at home moms have created our own ways we bring "success" to our world. I also agree with what Jayna mentioned....I see it all the time...how in the world do these stay home moms and homemakers do all they do on these videos and posts too. What kills me is women that have "homemaking" channels that promote lovely homemaking but they have house cleaners because they are so busy with their youtube. hmmmmm
I'm always baffled when a women tells me I should go back to work. That women shouldn't be at home in the name of feminism..... Its the exact opposite of feminism. Feminism is a womens right to choose for herself. Regardless of their choice it should be respected. Especially by other women.
Loved this episode! I make homemaking content just for motivation and to encourage other women in what they do and it was actually watching you is what gave me the desire to make content which took me two years to finally do it! Just a hobby but I love to uplift other women It is interesting how the “tradwife movement” really tries to make it seem romantic when we all know that it’s a blessing to be home but it isn’t all sunshine and rainbows! I think that it sets other women up for failure to make them think it’s the most glorious job ever bc they will think they are failing when it’s not that way for them Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for having the courage to give your honest opinions on this topic. Usually when we talk about things like feminism and the Bible people don’t listen to the complexities of what is said because they already decided when they want to hear. It is complicated and the woman in Proverbs 31 is a beautiful example of a wife and a mother that makes money, invests and still fulfills God’s calling for her to her family. I went to an Ivy League for my graduate degree despite much pushback from men in my life whom I love because they didn’t have the privilege to peruse education past high school or complete their degrees. I had an infant at the time and I felt pressured to keep going so I could tell my daughter someday that she can do it all. But the cost was that I missed most of her first year of life crying over my computer doing my statistics homework while my daughter was at the door crying for me to come play with her. I was a teacher and on my way to becoming a policy maker. I was raised to believe that staying at home with my kids is oppressive but I could not justify handing my children to someone else so I could change the lives of every other kid. I tried to have it all. I realized that I have limits and I chose my kids. If you can do it all and work full time and take care of your family and that makes you happy amen. I am still working on reaching that Proverbs 31 wisdom and discernment of how to respect my human limitations while still fulfilling all my callings. I was willing to let go of my family, my ministry, and my health to prove to my daughter that she can do anything. What I’ve learned is just because I can doesn’t mean I should. Now I am a stay at home wife and mom. We are a missionary family, which we never could have been if I wasn’t homeschooling my kids. The Lord is using our family to build a school in a place where there is a very serious need. God is more than faithful because we don’t deserve anything from him, but he is merciful. Women need to stop fighting for what we think is right, to work or not to work or how to work, but we need to turn to God’s word and come to him in prayer and ACCEPT when he is speaking to us regardless of our desires. Only He knows the answers to our specific situation.
I seen another comment and agree, Feminism is based on a woman being able to choose, vote and not be owned or beaten by a man. Feminism has made large strides for woman and I believe that God also would want the same for woman. If married to a Godly man and able to be a stay at home parent and wants to be, then that could work well for the family but if one person is not able to make enough money/way for one to remain home, it is not always an option. Doesn’t mean one person ha mental health issues or addictions, just means mortgages and rent are so high that it is not a option for that family. I think this has to be discussed prior to marriage about expectations because if the woman wants to continue to work outside the home and has the education/ employment to do so, then she should have the choice same as the male partner. It is a privilege to be able to live on one income that many do not have. There is so much more to this conversation and so many more factors that influence choice and ability. There are woman and men that feel fulfilled being home but there are others who do not and need something more.
Thank you for bringing this up, it’s an important topic. In the discussion regarding filling your time and having projects outside of your home and family, I thinks it’s vital to keep in mind your duties, and the hierarchy of duties. Meaning, as a wife and mother, your duty to your spouse and children comes first! In that part of your life your are absolutely irreplaceable! Whether you’re able to do other things outside of the home depends on whether it has a negative impact on your primary duties to husband and children. If it doesn’t and you’re perfectly able to take care of them and your home still, then great, go for it! However if it leaves you with too little time to care for your home or takes you away from your kids for too long etc, then it’s not Gods will for you, even if it’s a beautiful and a good project.
Let's never forget that being a stay-at-home wife/mother is a high calling of God when taken seriously. We have many children in our world today who were not nurtured and taken care of. We have many marriages that were not nurtured and taken care of. It's not a good look.✌️🙏✝️
I've noticed I get anxious when someone asked what I do. Its because I dread the comments, "oh, that must be nice, I have to help earn" "oh, my sister did that until her husband left her and she had no job skills or support sonce she hadn't worked in 10 years" "oh, you must miss getting out of the house" "is your husband ok with having to earn all the income?" it's never positive. It's so sad that I'm considered less than because I raise my children myself.
By the way Megan, loved your perspective ❤️ of mental health associated with motherhood. I really don’t believe that it’s being “over achiever” I believe that you need to do what makes you, YOU! And some people are more developed and have their personal self care, love, their perspective of life more developed than others, some people are more intelligent in that way, it’s the truth. And those people need to feed their souls in other to feel alive. And to feed is to live, to be in nature, to do sports, to be by yourself, just you and God. Because that is how you grow as a human, as a mother, as a wife, as a career woman, as a spiritual being! And that is just BEAUTIFUL ❤️ And smart. Much love Megan 💐
Hi! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this relevant topic. I am a new stay at home mom, and previously for a couple of years I was a stay at home wife. I call myself our "life manager" because I keep all of the wheels turning at home and in life while my husband makes our income. We used to both work and share more management of the home and we both prefer our current arrangement over that. Plus we always knew we wanted me to be the primary caregiver for our children. Before we had children I needed time to heal some physical issues I was having and my husband very generously encouraged me to stay home and do so. Admittedly I did spend a lot of time sitting around watching videos like you mentioned 😐 But it was all part of a process for me to heal and learn homemaking skills. Now that our first daughter is here I'm so grateful to have had that time. It is a "privilege," but I prefer "blessing" as you phrased it. Plus in our case it was earned. We spent time both working and running around to earn money, paying off debt, saving money, and setting up our life so that it worked for me to stay home. I didn't just say "nah, I don't want to work anymore." Although in moments of weakness I did feal that way. Plus for me my desire was always to be married and have a family - the more I thought about it the more I didn't feel the need for specific career achievements. Now I'm faced with a new issue where the limited part time work that I had continued doesn't fit with my new life with our daughter. Some of it I held onto so I did have something in addition to homemaking and mothering, but I'm finding it is important to be very intentional about what that is. What am I willing to devote myself to outside of my family? Now I am in the process of completing the little paid work I have still been doing and it feels really right. At the same time I am working to realize a shared goal that my husband and I have of a blog and TH-cam channel. So that feels like it's closer to home and therefore more "alongside" my family as you said, rather than outside my family 😀
Really enjoy listening to whatever topic you ladies are discussing. I’m almost 60 and grew up in a conservative, Christian home. My mom was a SAHM for many years until my dad’s health kept him at home. Then, my mom was the one working outside the home. There was no other choice. I stayed at home with my girls until they went to school and then I worked outside the home for twenty years. Now I’m a busy Grandmother and stay at home Pastor’s wife. My life is very fulfilling and I’m very content! God bless you sweet ladies and your precious families! 😀❤️
I loved this episode!!! Im a christian single Mom, run a small business and homeschool my youngest ( my oldest has graduated) and I can't wait for the day that God brings along a husband to lead our home!!! Now i submit to God, he is (and will continue to be) the head of the home here. But sister, im tired!!!Ha!!! Where is my Godly man??? Any day now 😂 In all seriousness, I will likely continue working in my salon once i remarry because I truly love my job but honoring God by serving my husband, my children and my home is my hearts desire. I am so encouraged after this podcast, keep speaking truth ladies ❤
I also am someone who always wanted to be a trad wife and Sahm mom but have to work right now for financial reasons. I do try to find a happy medium by working part time so I’m home with the kids some as well. I’m hoping that someday I can stay home, but for now I am making the most of it and it’s nice to have something I enjoy and I appreciate my kids more and don’t feel as burnt out in my mothering . I will say it is harder to juggle both sometimes, but I know there are things that are hard about being exclusively at home. That’s why I think having a hobby or time to yourself is so important either way
I’ve loved being a mom(grandma now)at home.I’ve not been idle.. I enjoy cooking ,baking,cleaning ,gardening,canning..and helping out with my grands. I’m glad to see the moms of my grandchildren content doing the same. This was a good discussion.
Glad you are open to different views and ideas. I am a Mom to three young girls. About the ages of your children. We have a big garden. I do lots of canning. We homeschool. Right now I don't have a dishwasher or dryer. So I am a very busy mama. 😊
Hello LovelyLadies I dont comment often, but I had too Im a 60 yr old Christian woman, married, mum of 4 and 7 grand children our life is centered around God, Church and each other and family, last minute baking, family get togethers and cleaning, its not boring or easy, BUT it fufilling! I know God made me to be Mrs. and Pauls wife and my childrens mum. I havent always been a Christian, BUT with God number 1, my life is very busy and fufilling Im writing a cookbook, a soap maker and bread baker and I do sell it along with some crafts God bless ALL WOMAN, WIVES, MUMS AND GRANDMAS Love you all xoxoxoxoxox
I am always amazed by people who suggest that homemaking or stay-at-home-momming is a waste of a woman's mind. The hand that rocks the cradle raises the next generation. That is an enormous and powerful calling! Every doctor, teacher, president, politician, rocket scientist, and pope had a mother who raised them and helped put them on that path. If raises the next generation of the world is a waste of the mind, what does that say about the rest of the roles in society? Motherhood is such a gift and an honor and a huge responsibility. Praying for you mamas!
I'm not a frequent commenter, but I just wanted to say I really appreciated this episode. I'm a happy wife and homemaker and I also homeschool my five children. I've been listening to you girls since you got started and it feels like sitting with friends, I enjoy hearing you girls discuss things. I'm not a Mennonite, but I am a Bible believing Christian and I just want to tell you this is so encouraging and fun to me!
Oh wow, I've watched Hayley Paige on and off for years, fun to see a shoutout to her from this channel! Gosh, it would be so cool if you'd interview other mama channels like The Mom's View used to do. But at the same time, I just love you ladies chatting, it's the best!
I don’t think women need something to fill their time necessarily, I think it’s more about finding something outside of your homemaker vocation so you don’t get burnt out. It’s the same as needing to rest and relax to recharge so we don’t snap or crack like Megan said. I also think it can help you to appreciate your children and home more when you spend a little time away occasionally or put energy into something you enjoy and that nourishes you
Loved this. You both would enjoy the book Eve in Exile. Gives a great history of feminism and a biblical worldview. The documentary that goes along with is excellent as well! Hugs from a happy homemaker in Oregon 🥰
Proverbs 31: 24 "She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant." Homemakers can also make money for the household and still be considered legitimate biblical keepers of the home.
I have 3 kiddos, and let me tell you my time is filled! We homeschool, we small scale homestead, we make everything from scratch and preserve most of our food. I am 100% content. I do some crocheting/knittint in the evenings when everyone is in bed. I swear I'm an old soul, I'm only 32 😂. I don't feel the need to do anything else. I will say I have a loving husband who loves God and leads us to do the same, so that really makes a big difference! I love listening to this podcast so much! You two are so awesome ❤.
In a big scheme of things no one can have everything. We are all on many different spectrums, not all women are the same, not all men are the same. I think that the take home message is- we should be able to do what we find right for us. And that’s the idea behind the feminism, we should make the same money as men if we do the same work as them. It doesn’t mean that we must do so, but we want that option if we choose it and we have skills, talents, and abilities. The reason I watch your videos is because my life looks nothing like yours. I am not Christian, nor American, I work full time (oftentimes more than full time), and don’t have children. That being said, I love your aesthetic, different approach to every day living, and how you navigate this world. There are many Mennonite content creators out there, but you are the only person who’s videos I watch consistently. It has to do with your talent, quality of your work, and ability to connect with people. I think, trends come and go, and it is ok to try different things in life to find what works best for oneself as long as we stay respectful towards each other and appreciate each other’s added value.
Maybe we do need a purpose so we feel like we are more than what we do as wives and mothers. I need hobbies and friends, too. We homeschool but from time to time, we try to plan at least one outing. The outing can be anything from shopping to eating out to a paint party. It keeps me in line and reminds me that I need to have fun, too.
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This is such and important topic and I love hearing all of your different life perspectives! We'll definitely have to do a follow-up sometime and dig intona few more things. Love the discussion. May God bless each of you women in your pursuits! 🧡
Please read a good, thoughtful book about feminism. You actually embody more femininst principles than you seem to be aware of. There is no 'feminist agenda' in a real book about feminism. That is a political statement.
Obviously, whoever wrote the comment calling TRAD wives swindlers, never read about the Proverbs 31 woman.😂 She was the wife of a governing official, mom, merchandiser, chef, realtor, vineyard owner, counselor, and manager. She served the poor and needy. Oh, and don't forget...she was STRONG 💪 ❤
Great answers ladies!! Love it!
Yes, and please read a book about feminism, rather than quote TikTok. It's getting really old saying that.
I say it every time, just because I want to make sure you and your audience know-any woman who talks down on women who choose a career as a homemaker, or subscribes to traditional gender roles in their own individual lives is not a feminist. Feminism is having the opportunity to make the choice for yourself.
Feminism is equal rights. People in this sphere tend to generalise gender roles and want to impose them. No one bans u from staying home but u ban reproductive rights for instance.
However, the tension between feminists and "traditional wives" is almost perfectly symmetrical. Whilst you are correct in saying that feminists largely look down upon "homemaking" as a legitimate path for women, equally, "traditional wives" (or Christians, broadly) often are condescending (or admonishing) to those who choose a career over a family.
Neither group believes in giving girls/women options. They each, tribally, believe that there is *only* one correct way: earning a living for the feminists, or staying at home and raising children for the traditional wives; this, with very, very little room for compromise.
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This was an interesting discussion and yes…I’m a feminist. I’m almost 72 years old and I well remember the days when men were paid more than women and both were doing the same job. When I was first married I could not get my own credit card. I had to have one under my husbands name and I made more money than he, we both had professional jobs but mine paid more. When women wanted to purchase a car, they had to have their husbands co-sign so when I say I’m a feminist, I believe in equal pay for equal work. We are partners and work together and share in decision making. If a couple decides that the woman will stay home and raise the children, it’s a decision they make together and share in the monetary rewards of the “breadwinner”. No one is more important than the other from my perspective. A homemaker, and whether you work outside the home or not, you’re making a home for your family and it is hard to care for your family and work outside the home. Some just don’t have many options. Such an interesting discussion.
I'm in my 30s and have worked in a role where my male counterpart was paid more than me, we did the exact same job with the same tasks and did it in the same time. It didn't make sense.
@@listay1 Because men are supposed to be the sole provider. I personally would be annoyed if a woman was paid more than my husband. 🤷♀️
@@emloufox Unfortunately, with the huge living/housing costs (at least here in the UK), most people simply can't afford to have just one person being the breadwinner. I do believe that people should be paid fairly and equally, no matter what their gender is.
@@emloufox Who said anything about women making more? We are asking for equal pay for the same work. Many women are breadwinners for their families, btw.
@@emloufox where do find that logic?! If a woman was your husband's boss she would be paid more than him. And what if a working woman was unmarried and didn't have a husband to 'provide ' for her - should she be paid less than a man doing the same job?
It doesn't matter what the job is, the pay shoud be the same. I work in healthcare and our wages are nationally set so men and women are paid the same - thank goodness.
As a Christian woman who as worked in the corporate world for almost 5 years, nothing brings contentment like Jesus and family. No amount of money or awards has ever brought me more joy than my Christian community and husband. I'm currently expecting my first baby and we have already made the decision for me to stay home with my children from now on. Making 6 figures doesn't bring me worth but being the woman, wife, and soon to be mom God has called me to be will always give me worth! ❤
❤ i love this
You’re making me tear up because amen sister
Congratulations 👏
That’s wonderful, you will be raising your own children and instilling your own values and faith into them. I believe God meant for it to be that way.
Having a job you love that allows you to travel and donate to charity is not incompatible with having kids that you inspire with your ambition
I'm a fellow Mennonite wife and mom who works as a part-time nurse 3 days a week. I have experienced a lot of pushback from other stay at home moms for my decision to work. However, very few of them are solely homemakers. Most of them have little side businesses or clean houses to generate income. The irony of what they say vs how they actually live is upsetting.
I honestly don’t know how families could get by in this economy without having two incomes, even if the second one is from part time or side work! Raising kids is an incredible life path but it isn’t inexpensive!
I think nuance is necessary on the topic of homemaking. If you put your job above your duty as a housewife and mother, that is against the Bible. If you can stay home but choose to not do it to feel "empowered" and modern, you are putting the modern culture and your pride above your duty as a woman.
Nevertheless, having to work out of necessity is not wrong at all. Women working becomes an issue when you do it despite not having to and when it goes above your role as a Godly woman.
The women you talk about that have side businesses have businesses that allow them to earn money while staying home for the most part.
Childcare is expensive, especially with multiples. Unless someone has free/low-cost childcare or has a larger salary, I personally don't know how moms can afford to go to work 🤷
Earning money is in no way incompatible with being a good wife. The Proverbs wife is clearly making her own money, she’s investing in real estate! But her heart is primarily with her husband and family, and being the keeper of her home.
hello fellow part time healthcare worker! thank you for all you do as a nurse! I'm sorry they've pushed back at you just for working. it's hard not to have double income households these days and hey, work can be fulfilling and something to do.
Jana, I agree with you about having your time filled. Megan doesn't have six kids and she doesn't even do all her own housekeeping she has her sister cleaning her house
Full time homemaker with no littles yet here! I get a lot of pushback in my personal life for being a homemaker. Interestingly enough though I never get judgement or condemnation from people in my age range (I’m in my twenties). We felt like when I worked we just spent more money because I was exhausted with long hospital shifts to do any housework or take care of myself. Or we were on opposite shifts and were becoming roommates not a married couple. My husband is a high earner so why would we both work. I’ve also had a lot of health challenges and I’ve been so thankful my husband does not make me work so I could prioritize my health. I love y’all’s podcast 💕
Yeah, I think the filling your time thing is what they were getting at mostly. I don’t think taking care of a two adult household by itself ( unless medical reasons exist) without any other outlets or giving of time would be good for anyone. Like she said I think it would be really easy to do what needs to be done and just kinda hang about. That doesn’t feel good mentally or physically after a little bit. So many ways and places to serve or help friends, family, schools, organizations etc in one way or another, that is a blessing to them and makes us feel good too 🙂
Hey, from a fellow stay at home wife! 😉 Similar situation here! Both my husband and I knew that we wanted me to stay home when we have kids and decided to have me just start out that way. The filling your time up thing is huge! Honestly there are days were just chilling is sooo tempting, but I have been working on using that down time to serve and help others. We host a lot, have a tight community, and live on 4 acres. There’s always something to do, if you just take the time to looks! And I know it’s a blessing to be in the financial state to be able to have me stay at home. Asking people, including my dear husband, to help keep me accountable in keeping busy and not caving to lazy ideas was so helpful!
Having people ask me “what do you do all day anyway?” can be hurtful and feel like you’re not worth very much. But it can also be fuel to making sure I am using my time wisely and not wasting it! Nothing wrong with spoiling your husband a little extra in this season either! 😉 (though I don’t take off his shoes when we comes home! 🙃) Appreciated the podcast! We all have our own point of view and adding mine to the table! ☺️ And it was sweet to hear I’m not the only one out there! ☺️
@@katiebwheeler Yes, serving others outside of our household is definitely something that is most important! Sorry, I deleted my previous comment because I think I was a bit passive/aggressive and defensive for various personal reasons that I'm working on (i.e. the grass is always greener on the other side) 😊Sometimes it's hard for the single working gals to not envy the ones who get to stay at home.😉
My husband's income is moderate, but I'm still able to stay home. It gives me the opportunity to budget and stretch the our money in ways we couldn't do, if I was working outside the home as well. As for filling time, we live a five minute walk away from our church building, so I get to have daily fellowship with everyone else who isn't out working, and contribute time and energy to cleaning the church building, mending and adjusting clothes for people in our church, bringing a sick church member a cup of tea, visiting an older lady to play board games with her... I'd say the days do fill up well and I wouldn't have it any other way 😊
I am a mother of seven now adult children. So I think I have some experience, I was a stay at home full time homemaker . Or a baby butt wiping machine 😅but also so much more . I felt fulfilled and useful! There’s truth in the saying The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world . I still had time to be creative, reading , writing , gardening. Godliness with contentment is great gain whatever situation you find yourself in .
The best comment that I've read here so far!! 🙂
@@jacklynnsmith5668 thank you 😊
@@jacklynnsmith5668AMEN! I raised/homeschooled 5(now all grown & married) & I totally enjoyed my time at home. We spent afternoons crafting together, going on fun outings. Totally fulfilled & content!❤
I'm 26 and I'm single. I guess you would call me a homemaker. my Mama passed away unexpectedly last year and I take care of all of the household duties (cooking, cleaning, laundry and scheduling) for my Dad and 4 siblings (I have 6 siblings) that are still at home and I also babysit at home. I love what I do. My calling is to be a stay at home wife and mama, I am waiting on the LORD to send the godly man that He has for me.
May you be blessed in your faithfulness to what your calling has been. It sounds painful and hard.
@@Sarah-qi1se thank you so much!!
Bless you for all you do for your family ❤
I wish I could ❤ this comment. Not an easy loosing a mama that young.
I consider myself a feminist but I 100% respect anyone's choice to be a stay at home mom. And fortunately so do any of the feminists I personally associate with haha. I wouldn't want to be around folks who can't see the value in all that mothers do.
100%. It takes all colors to make a rainbow and we need all kinds of roles to be filled in society.
@@saram3156 I think extremists of all flavors aren't generally good, but depends on what you're talking about. Context is everything. I have a strong dislike of religious extremists personally, but I also have strong feelings on religion in general 🙂
@@saram3156 my comment was simply made as a polite way not to get into a philosophical discussion in the comments of a TH-cam video 🙂 have a great day!
@@saram3156 Yeah, feminism is definitely a very broad word that means something different depending on who and where you are asking.
I've found it's uncommon to run into other stay at home moms, let alone moms that don't shxt on stay at home moms.
I just want to point out that feminism isn’t inherently against homemaking and motherhood. Of course, some “feminists” have downgraded the role of a homemaker, but ultimately, feminism is about women’s right to choose what they do.
Totally agree with this! Feminism can be embracing the beauty in being a woman and our natural talent given by God. It’s about how our talents and gifts aren’t any less than than of a man, they’re just different. As you said we were put here for different purposes. Modern society values money and strength over femininity and gentleness.
Yes!! Well said!! I consider myself a feminist. I happen to be a full time working mom but I do not look down at stay at home mothers at all. I have so much respect for people who choose that and have considered it many times myself! I do believe true feminists are women supporting women in what makes that person happy. Unfortunately there are people on both sides who take things to the extreme and become very women/mom judging, which is incredibly sad.
Agreed! Though I will say, we can’t exclude feminists who make degrading comments to homemakers as “feminists” (as in, putting them in quotation marks as if they don’t count) because just like any other group we are required to call in bad actors who are making us look bad. They’re feminists but they need to be informed that their specific ideology is harmful towards women. The worst members of every group are the ones who define the group to outsiders and frankly give everybody else in the group a bad name.
Feminism started with giving women the right to vote and the right to work. Elites such as the Rockeffellers wanted to convince women to work so there could
be more taxpayers. It about never about a woman’s well being. Feminism was Satanic from the beginning as it goes against the word of God. Don’t be fooled.
Completely! I fully consider myself a feminist, was raised by a feminist mother who stayed at home with us and was a traditional housewife. I mostly stay home with my kids too. I don’t always like how Megan paints feminists or the supposed “feminist agenda.” Anyone putting down a woman for living her life how she wants to is the complete opposite of a feminist!
As a homeschooling, homemaking mother of 7, I promise my mind is not wasted as I shape the minds and hearts of my family.
I absolutely agree with Jayna about not needing anything aside from being a mother and homemaker. I think this largely depends on the person and their personality. Some people are more prone to do a lot and be busy, some aren’t.
Yes, I am sure. There is a ditch on both sides. Those who don't have anything else need to be careful not to lose themselves completely and their own likes and personality. Those who have other endevours need to always be rechecking their priorities and making sure they are still making motherhood a priority!
Loved this conversation. I have to say as a woman who does not have children and does not work, here is my point of view on that. I delayed being a full time homemaker because I felt like people would question that since I don't have children. It was a give in, that if we did have children, I would be home with them. But I still really had the desire to be home. When my husband and I made that decision, he gave me the confidence to do so and I am very grateful. I don't need to bring in an income to feel valuable. When I first stopped working, I had a couple years that were very busy but also incredibly fulfilling as I had time to give to a couple people that needed someone. Then we moved and I found myself with much more free time as I didn't have many people I knew but I also had a lot to do to get us settled into a new area. Yes, I picked up the "hobby" of TH-cam but even without that, I find that my time is full taking care of the home and hopefully making my husbands life easier and more enjoyable when he is not working. The season where I was working full time, I couldn't grasp why some women with children choose to do that even if they don't have to. I felt like we were always going in a million directions, didn't have time to eat a healthy meal and we were just working our lives away. Now that I am home and have time to take care of our needs throughout the day, I feel like we have more time for each other, more time for enjoying life and also enjoy our home cooked meals. Okay, I didn't mean to leave such a long comment but I do love this topic. ☺
Loved this comment and just subscribed to your channel simply enjoying life! I’m a homemaker with no babies (yet) and I’ve been enjoying it so much. I’m very grateful for the opportunity to stay home. My husband loves it too and he is so supportive which is nice. I try to encourage newly married girls around me to do the same if they have the desire to stay home. I find it sad that so many women get pressured into working because they don’t feel like they have a good reason to stay home without kids. Homemaking is such a blessing no matter what season of life you are in ❤️
@@Cwg1368 I love that Clara! Having a supportive husband who values you in that way is important. ❤️ And thanks for subscribing! ☺️
As a fellow housewife without kids, I'm excited to find your channel. I honestly don't know how I ever had time to work full-time! Just subscribed to your channel to follow someone like-minded.
@@tammywilson6091 Well thank you Tammy! I think there are more of "us" than we know but it does seem hard to find each other at times. I don't miss the days of working full-time at all. I'm happy and proud to be a homemaker. ❤
I think your comment really demonstrates how different people thrive in different situations. It's obvious for you that being a homemaker makes you feel fulfilled and provides you with a lifestyle you love. I do work but I haven't found that my husband and I are too busy to cook and enjoy healthy homecooked meals.
I loved listening to this podcast as a woman who is currently working in my career of choice, i love and respect your lifestyle choice. There are so many great things about being a woman.
This topic has been heavy on my heart. I started working for the postal service when i was 19. My now husband and i had just started dating. I put in 11 years until i finally got a full time position.. Still had no children.. 4 years after getting full time we had our 1st and i cannot even describe the heart ache my first day back after maternity leave. I bawled all day it felt so wrong. She is now 2 and i still struggle. I pray and pray God will make a way. I fully believe no amount of money/ benefits is worth it. A childs mother is irreplaceable
I will pray for you and your family 😊
I pray you have your heart’s desire one day.
@@Angela-ep9pm Thank you so much 💖
@@janelmellott3357 🙂 You are very welcome
The grass is always greener on the other side. That has always been my take on working vs non-working women. I was a mother/wife/woman who worked the 8-5 M-F job out of necessity. My husband is self employed owning a retail store. No health insurance, rarely paid himself etc. I worked mainly for our health insurance, tithing, tuition at a private school for our sons, paid bills etc. I did this for 36 years. We lived a very simple life. Rarely took vacations; we were very thrifty; I wasn't working to have the best of everything. I lived on a budget. I had a wonderful boss who was very family oriented. I never missed an activity for my sons. I had no outside activities once I got off work. I dedicated every non-at-work moment with my sons. I did my best. And of course, I looked at the stay at home mother and wished I could stay at home. However, often times, my stay at home mothers would comment, "you are so lucky to be able to get out everyday and work and not be "stuck at home"....seems as though no one was content. Looking back, I was the best mother I could have been and the best employee I could have been. My sons are wonderful men; husbands, fathers, teachers, coaches. They are great. They turned out great. But by the grace of God, they turned out great!! I can't look back with regrets. I did my best. I 100% support all women, working or non-working. We have to support one another and know that basically we are all trying our best to do what's best for our families. Thank you for your podcast. I always learn something new!
Yes we'll said I hope you don't get negative feed back everything you said is valid for so many women who need to work to help their family financially
I am also a stay at home housewife and mother, and agree that a lot of us have side hussles where we do pull in a little money... however when you need to start pawning your kids off to do said side hussle, or have someone clean your home, then its no different than the moms who have a job outside the home and have a day care watch the children, no matter how often that happens. The hussle/job takes away from your homemaking and motherly duties.
Interesting episode! You said something along the lines of, “it makes you realize that to be a good mom this is what you have to be…” regarding your fellow TH-camr Hailey Paige. This line struck a nerve in me. As a teacher who works outside of the home I don’t agree that “good” moms must stay home in order to be considered good. Women supporting women in all their circumstances is really where it’s at.
I’m technically a stay at home wife. Maybe how my days unfold only reflects my experience, but I thought showing my situation could shed some light on taking this season and using it well. For some useful context, I finished a Ph. D in physical chemistry about a year ago. I’ve viewed this time mostly as a break before working in a lab again, but technically I’m a stay at home wife and my husband is the sole income for us. We also live in an apartment, so there is not that much housework to be done.
To schedule my days I have rungs of priorities that I consider. The unmovable staples are my time with God and one-on-one time with my husband. Second priorities are the work I feel like God has for me right now, visiting sick church members/driving them to appointments, babysitting, meeting newer church members to develop those discipling relationships, helping friends with random tasks that would otherwise not be accomplished (sewing, furniture building, moving heavy things…), and having intentional conversation with non-Christian friends. Third priorities are my hobbies or personal goals, such as finishing writing my scientific results, sewing, fishing, weightlifting, ect.
Planning each day I make sure the top priorities happen (even if it isn’t for much time). Then I look at the week as a whole and schedule 1 second rung priority per day. The rest of the time goes to third tier priorities, with an emphasis on the most useful first. Right now, I’m mostly using this discretionary time for scientific reading and writing, with 1-2 hrs daily for the purely pleasure activities like exercise, piano, sewing…
I know this time won’t last forever, but until God moves me on I’m going to keep doing the work He has given me; caring for others, resting, and slowly working on advancing science.
you ladies are a breathe of fresh air. I often reflect on my choices to work outside of the home and if I could have a do over I would have stayed home.
I enjoyed this conversation and love following along. I am an attorney, I work remotely, likely less hours than you Megan (you are amazing!). I love this - it allows me to be with my daughter (we homeschool) and still nurse my 15 month old. I love my family and home and doing all the homemaking things while also having something that uses my skills while supplementing our income. I feel fortunate as it sometimes feels like the best of both worlds. I would never and could never go back into an office and working away from my kids ❤
My paralegal sister-in-law did the same. It wasn't until recently, as her daughters became adolescents, that she began to take on more hours at the office in person. Now she has only one day at home during her work days. My brother still makes more money than her, but she's too social to be a full-time SAHM. They also live near Denver, and that's expensive.
As a SAHM in rural Colorado, it's financially better for my family if I stay at home. The pay of most full-time jobs in this area is mediocre, and the only part-time job jobs available are mostly self-employment, mostly in housekeeping (cleaning under the two major local companies means they have more say in your hours).
My situation is also different than normal because my husband has his own remodel business, and I work a few hours for him. I don't have to worry about looking for outside work, and my boss is flexible, lol.
I don't think you can generalize that all women who are keepers home NEED something outside the home to feel you are fulfilling a purpose. That can be different from person to person and from stage of life to stage of life. I agree with Jayna that you can feel fulfilled and content being a keeper at home. I believe your purpose is to fulfill what God has planned for you, and there ALL kinds of ways to do that. It takes all the different types of people to make up the whole body of Christ.
"Trad Wives" have been around for years on Instagram, and some of the most popular influencers scare me. My lifestyle probably looks "traditional" in many ways, but I stay far away from those accounts. They all seem to make idols of their husbands to worship, they are all genius infallible Popes who mustn't ever be questioned, lest their manliness disintegrates. And I can't imagine how any of these women, with these mindsets of such "delicate" femininity, could have survived my grandmother's life on a farm in Poland 😂
Most of these critiques of "Feminism" to me sound like critiques actually of Capitalism though, with which I might agree 😆
I just want you to know I loved this episode. And I’m not Christian, I’m Muslim, and I’m just as passionate about god as you ladies are. This was great!
salaam alaikum!
Your name is almost Orthodox… are you considering converting?!
Jayna so agree with you and the value of a wife and homemaker. Glad you talked about this topic.
Thanks for being here!
I hope you know that many, many, many ( i think all of them. in my life) people that call themselves feminist or modern have no 'agenda' against SAHM, modest women, traditional wives, christian women. To be a "modern women" is to truly have absolutely no problem with how other women want to live their lives :) it may be online, but its not the majority!
Agree. I am a feminist but I don’t consider myself to have an agenda. You do you!
The idea that women are there to support each other is wonderful. The "volume" in social media seems very loud and concentrated, but I agree with you that my real life friends and neighbors are much more supportive and accepting.
I'd rebut that a little, because I had a lot of nasty comments from female feminist "friends" when I got married and became a SAHW. Lots of putdowns and rude remarks despite it being a choice I made. One friend said even though I was happy it made her angry. I had family members be quite unpleasant too. Once I got pregnant, they acted like I had leprosy and all stopped speaking to me when I told them the news. Haven't heard from a single friend since then. Idk just my experience, but maybe I'm a real brat to be around and it was that instead ☺️
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I am 74 yr old and I'm a retired nurse. I was not able to have children and , while I understand that I missed out on something very special, I also found nursing to be very fullfilling. I worked full time in Intensive care as long as I could then went to a part time job in dialysis the final few years because my back just refused to do bedside care in ICU any longer. I did my best to keep my home well, and do all the housewife chores well but I would sometimes fall short on that. I never felt guilty about it though, as long as your doing your best, your best is ALL you can do. I would never have considered being a 100% stay at home housewife because I had to work very very hard to become a nurse & I was not about to waste it. Since I retired I do find that sometimes the days go on & on exactly the same , over & over. I clean , I sew, I go to aerobics, I shop but I don't really find it very mentally stimulating.So if I were much younger and totally physically able, I would go insane staying home every day.
I worked hard to become an HR professional, so I understand what you are saying here.
Thanks for sharing your story
Loved this episode!! I am a Christian and come from a Christian family and yet am always judged for wanting to stay home with my kids. I felt a strong conviction to stay home even at the risk of having to live very frugally and I even had a mental breakdown about leaving my oldest at daycare when I never wanted to be doing that in the first place. I’m truly my happiest right now with my almost three kids at home. I can say I’m able to be a mom WELL now compared to before when I was pulled in too many directions
I am a wife and mama of four, and have been a homemaker since I was first married. I feel so blessed to be living how the Lord ordained.
I couldn’t agree more. Homemaking and motherhood are wonderful roles that I feel fortunate to have been able to enjoy. I did become a RN and work outside the home for many years but I especially treasure my years at home with our children!
We need MORE Honey I’m a Homemaker videos !! Love Jayna !! She seems so real and not just trying to show she lives the “perfect” TH-cam life to drink fancy coffee, make money and get free items from advertisers like so many TH-camrs are doing now.
Why thanks❤ Probably because I am actually not a youtuber AT ALL. I just show up, chat with Megan, and she deals with the rest 😅.
Thanks for watching
I’m so glad you both recognize the privilege that has to exist in order to make decisions about working or staying home.
yes, my position is so unique compared to most!
It's not a privilege to not be able to afford childcare, most of us absolutely do not have a choice. This is what I want to do, raise my children, homeschool, have a homestead, this is what I AM doing, but it's not coming from privilege. There's nothing privileged about being able to afford nothing but basics at ~40k a year lol!
@@corablah9809 The privilege is that you don't have to go to work and leave your children. Some families literally cannot make it on one income. At least for a time.
YALL ARE THE BEST!! I love your Godliness but realness and how your not scared to state your opinions and stand firm in God!
Yes I agree with you Jayna, God has called us wives to be keepers of the home and to raise the children he has given us. He did not instruct us to run a side Hussle if we have any spare minute, in order to be making good use of the time we have. All of us as mother's choose to use our spare time in a huge variety of ways. But the mom's that don't run a side Hussle are not any less than the moms that have a small business/job, etc. The most important work is within the walls of our home. 🤍
Such an interesting discussion. I'm a feminist. I don't believe that a person (whether male or female) has to join the workforce or has to stay at home. It's all about having a choice. God gave us all individual talents. Why should a woman who wants to be a doctor not study medicine and do just that. Why should a man who wants to stay home with his kiddos not do that? God made us all unique and everyone has their one purpose. If god made me, then I should use my god given talents to the best of my ability and to serve others as best as I can regardless of any roles other people expect of me.
Exactly. I'm a feminist as well and I 100% support every woman who wants to be a SAHW or SAHM if that is her own free decision. I would never presume to tell another woman what she should want in her life or do with her life. By the same token, I don't appreciate other women telling me that it is unnatural for me to want and have a professional career. Can being a SAHW/M be fulfilling? Sure, as much as anything else. Is it a waste of her mind? Not inherently; only if she herself feels that way. Does that mean that staying at home is the best thing for every woman? Of course not. We as people differ in so many regards that the idea of a one-size-fits-all approach to life seems absurd to me.
Feminist here 🙋♀️ to share my point of view. Feminism is about te concept of women and men having the same rights. But like you know, there are extremes in everything, and those people who you were calling are not “feminist” , they are extremist. Because feminism is about the concept of women CHOOSING their own faith and having that power of voice, no matter of what a man says. And if a woman conscientiously chooses to be a SAHM or a housemaker, that is hers and only hers opinion to have. Feminism is about women having a voice , that is equal to a men’s voice. Yes, biologically we’re diferente, but in terms of rights we should have all the same rights and should not be limited by our genre.
I believe you would agree with me! Like I said, I am a “modern woman” but I really sympathise with your lifestyle and actually really admire a lot of aspects 🥰🥰🥰
But may I say, we disagree when you use the word submission, and the man being the CEO. I understand the extremists when they say that they fought really really hard to break free from that dominant life, and the man should not be the one who makes the last decision, nor the woman! It should always be a union, a connection and a team work. Yes, it’s a hard work. But it’s worth it, and it strengthens the bomd and the connection with your partner.
But yes, the extremist can go far with this vision, like publicly shaming a woman for her lifestyle is horrible and just mean.
With that said, I wish you all ladies the best ❤️
Thanks for being here! Yes i believe "radical feminism" might have been a better term for us to use.
I almost didn't listen to this episode because I didn't want to hear about their takes of the "feminist agenda" as I agree with you. Feminism is equal rights for all and choice.
@@nesser1352 oh you should always be open to others perspectives! I understand you but I also understand them. We should not use criticism for people who choose their own paths without hurting others, and I really love Megan’s channel! Yes , I wasn’t a fan of the word “feminist agenda” being used here, but everyone makes mistakes! We are all learning something new everyday. Ans Yes, I am a “modern woman” as they would say, but I always have much to learn from them, like they have with us, even though we each keep our own individual faiths and lifestyles.
Thank you @mafaldam1792 for this thoughtful comment, I too am a “modern woman” and often feel they use word feminist to talk about an extreme point of view. As a feminist and a women we should all lift each other up especially in motherhood and not criticize if someone chooses to be a SAHM or a working mom. 😊 I will say I always look forward to listening to there podcast and hearing their views even if I don’t always agree.
@@joannasanchez7474 Exactly! And I wish you all the best, I am sure you are doing an amazing job being a mom to your children, you really are the best mother they could have 🥰 And life is full of ups and downs, and after a low there’s always a high… and you’ll get through them ❤️ The universe/God/ what faith you have, doesn’t place obstacles in our way that we can not face and overcome. Thought you might need that! Much love 💗
I’m a newly married Mennonite gal. Im also a nurse and find a lot of fulfillment in bringing in some money too . And def agree with you abt the newly married girls that don’t have a job or don’t appear to be filling their time wisely . I love your channel keep up the good content
Ooooo I can add something to this! I quit my job in law enforcement when I got married (too dangerous and volatile) and we wanted to have babies right away, so I didn't find another job, instead I worked my tail off renovating our house and landscaping our yard and installing a huge veggie patch and orchard. I worked so hard! We have wood floors instead of ratty carpet and flowers and our home is now calm and beautiful to be in, but I've seen the reverse too, where fresh wives kinda mooch about. It always reminds me of the verse about women visiting and gossiping and convicts me to work really hard at home!
Y'all are already making positive changes in society already! I've been seeing the Trad Wife trend as well and Trad Life in general. Seems that a revival is going on among Christians not only here in our country but Western Civilization in general. I'd say y'all are helping change people's hearts and minds and making Biblical lifestyles "Cool" again. Each vid you and your fellow Christians make helps expand and grow people's interest in traditional beliefs. Keep up the good work and speak out as loud as you like. Good is winning. 🎥🌼🌸🎙️
It sounds as though you believe that moms and wives who work outside the home are not "good" or "positive" influences and somehow need to be changed to fit your idea of a perfect world. That is just as disparaging as it is when SAHM are put down.
@@ga6589 It's really about God and how he created the World. We live in a very fast paced society and few people like that idea. It took time before people realized it. God's ways are so simple in how he created unique roles for us in life. Some people now see greater value in being Christian Agrarians, Homesteaders, Homemakers, independent business owners, working for small Christian focused businesses, and so on. Spending more time together as a family. Things like that. People are looking for a more simple life now and a much safer life at that. 📝
@@brianpace7866 You're still making a huge assumption about what you believe most people want out of life and what you think is best for everyone. IMO, that's gaslighting those who don't subscribe to your particular religious beliefs or ideas about "unique roles" for people. If being a homesteader, small business owner, or SAHM is something that works for you, that's great. However, it's important to understand that people can be happy and fulfilled following a completely different path, even with no religious affiliation at all.
@@ga6589 Let's just say follow the Bible and it be absolute truth. Good day. 📖⛪
@@brianpace7866 I say that the Bible is the world's oldest Rorschach Test. You can look at it and see whatever you want. And everybody does.
I really appreciate Jayna’s input about filling your time with worthwhile things. I am a stay at home mom and my kids are getting older so they don’t require as much from me. I am also a Christian so I believe God made us to fill the roles he created for us. So I am now looking at my time and I want to fill it with worthwhile things.
Thank you ladies!
I literally do not know a single feminist that is against a woman’s choice to stay at home - choice is the center of it all. I think it’s an argument put on women but not from women.
Older Christian woman here - I love listening for your perspectives - I agree 💯 interesting how Jesus is/was submissive to the Father - and demonstrates it so well - yes it’s about order 🧡
This is similar to what I was thinking. Megan was basically saying that submission is an agreement between husband and wife that husband will take the lead role. The idea of biblical submission makes more sense to me when I realize that I am allowing my husband to lead. This is much more an agreement between myself and God than it is between myself and my husband. As a strong capable woman (raised by an empowering feminist single mother in the 60s-70s) I can definitely say that the act of submission is choosing to follow, rather than simply not being the one to lead. It is a lifelong journey, for sure, and there are many rewards.
@@akontilis1792 yes!
I’m blessed to mostly be a stay at home mom. I recently started substituting at a church preschool and I love it. I can make some extra money while maintaining my home for my family.
Oh that sounds like a fun and worthwhile job! ❤
Gosh, my husband's goal is to be the stay at home Dad! 😂 I am the fulltime SAHM only because he makes more $ and we have 4 littles...but now I kinda want us both to be home and have an online business that supports us all ❤
I hope this works out for you! I would love this for my family, but Josh says NO WAY!
My heart rejoiced when I saw the title! I love these so much ❤ thank you Jesus!
I am almost 61 years old. I was a SAHM for the first 13 years of my children’s lives and I loved it. However, I had to work outside the home for the past 28 years and it is okay. I was still there for my, now adult, children, even before I had to work outside the home, my children were taught how to do basic home chores that included laundry, cleaning, cooking and baking and my husband and I taught them that as a family we all were accountable to maintaining the home. Yes, we are a Christian family, yes, we espouse strong traditional families. However, we raised our children to get higher education or Vocational training to have a job that will support themselves and eventually a family- which they have done, though our son has become a stay at home dad because his wife makes more $ and his monthly paycheck went to daycare with nothing leftover, so they decided that dad would stay home and raise their children instead of a daycare or school system and it works for them! I have the utmost respect for any woman who either is a “trad wife” or works outside the home because I don’t and won’t judge them, just as I celebrate any dad who chooses to stay home with the children- because raising our children is the most important job any of has! And so those who wonder, my husband does help around the house- he does the cooking and vacuums and maintains our yard and garden while I do the rest- the budget, bill paying, cleaning, laundry, pets- we work together utilizing and balancing our strengths. It’s not a 50-50 relationship, it’s a marriage where balance is where one may give 80% one week but the following week it might be the other giving 90%- and those strengths and weaknesses work together to create a bond and love that nothing else can work against.
I was a stay at home, mom or a.k.a. trad for many years to four children.
I personally was not fulfilled, I needed more. I now am in leadership for the corporate world, I work from home. I am definitely fulfilled now and proud of my position as well as still being “at home “. I believe it depends on the person.
I always like listening to Jayna. She is very smart!!
Good stuff girls! MayGod bless you two, as you bring out what really matters, Mennonite or not
"Mennonite or not!" Love it! And welcome back to you as well!
Hooray your back! I’m so excited to watch! Love you girls!🙏💖🙏💖🙏💖
What do you mean “the feminists”? Who is the “they” in this conversation? Feminism is defined as supporting that women should have the same opportunities and legal rights as men. I’d love to hear more what you mean?
That's why I said I didn't want to call them feminists because I know the women we were referencing were the extreme. So what should we label those women? I'm not sure. Obviously they aren't speaking for all feminists. Although I don't consider my self a feminist, I think they do have have few view points that I agree with!
Tradwife here ❤ I love you guys so much even if we don’t have all of the same views I respect your message and enjoy your content. I will forever support women.
Ladies love it all of it!! I am an amish lady and understand exactly where you are coming from. I am currently married for 6 month and work 3 days a week in an office mostly so I don't get lazy. But enjoy homemaking way over my job but I am determined to not be a lazy woman.
It must be nice though, getting out of the home and talking to other people 3 days a week!
I have really been struggling as a mom of 4 kids under 4 . Last 2 being twins, my Health, Postpartum endometriosis. Miscarriage, and migraines from lack of sleep and cooking 3 meals a days, cleaning the house and sewing for myself and 2 daughters. ... what I've struggled with the most is : being called ( just a stay at home mom) and those friends and family who are always on a schedule due to their job - they can pretend to be busier and not having alot of lady's understand me . Feeling alone and a way!
I've been blessed with a very helpful husband however he is self employed and a very busy needed man ! I've grown alot I've learned alot but i cloud use a day off from mother hood and have a glance or something else in my life to recharge.
Thank you both for sharing your thoughts! I agree that in our world today women who seek more of a "trad-wife" type of life are seen as anti-feminist/ignoring progress of the women's movement/degrading to other women, etc. All women should feel empowered to live their lives in the way that makes the most sense to them (hopefully as it relates to their faith as well).
I 100% agree! I should have clarified my squeek a little better! haha! I just have a heart for women to not lose themselves in the busyness of motherhood. We all like to feel human and feminine, and like people sometimes. Too often I see women who chalk motherhood up to just being plain down hard-- which it is. But they just wallow there and don't look to fulfill any of their own interests or longings or needs even. What you are doing is exactly what makes motherhood beautiful and what I believe is a healthy balance. 90% of my friends do not have a part time job or any job at all, and I think that is wonderful.
God's blessings on you in this season of life!
@@MeganFoxUnlocked Thank you! I think motherhood and womanhood is constantly evolving and that we are (hopefully) finding an affirming more ways to live positive, faith-driven lives however that may look for someone. I think there's a lot of joy in motherhood, especially as it exists without the presence of a job, and we shouldn't try to erase that as we also advocate for women to be able to have successful careers and jobs. To me, I think of the last 100 years of the women's movement as a bit of a pendulum. On one end, we have patriarchal values encircling our culture keeping separate spheres for men and women and restricting women to the household. For some women, that made them feel disempowered to fulfill the call God has on their lives, so seeking equity in the workforce and society in general was desirable. Now 100 years later, it seems like the predominant message many women hear is that we need to be working women, pursuing careers, and especially avoiding traditional homemaking motherhood. Essentially, the pendulum has swung from one side to the other. Now that we've experienced both sides of the pendulum swing, hopefully we as a society can find a state of equilibrium where women who want to pursue careers/jobs can do so, along with those women who want to stay at home full-time with their kids. It's not that is has to be one or the other, but that women can have the freedom to choose for themselves. All that said, having this choice of being a stay-at-home-mom is certainly a privilege that many women don't have because they need to work for their family. But for those of us who are able to choose to be stay-at-home mommies, we deserve to be uplifted and empowered for that choice just the same as women who choose to pursue a career even if/when they don't have to. :)
Feminists who don't want women to stay at home are an incredibly small (if loud and obnoxious) minority within the feminist movement. For the majority of us, it's about choice: you want to stay at home? Great. You want to work outside the home? Also great. You do you, sis, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Another thing that I would like to point out (not inherently related to feminism) is that working outside the home does not necessarily equal joining the 'corporate world', nor is it always about money or glory. I'm a historian; I work in academia. There's neither big bucks nor glory to be earned in my field, but I love my work because I get to follow my passion and indulge my thirst for knowledge and new discoveries.
Loved this so much!! I am a “trad wife” and wouldn’t want it any other way! I feel so blessed to be able to raise and teach my own children at home! Also to be home when my husband gets home from work! Sometimes me and my toddler even get to go ride around with him for his work and go to his job with him and I know I wouldn’t be able to do any of that if I had a job outside of the home! I feel like this is definitely how God designed it to be and I am so thankful for that!! Thank y’all for this!!
Also I have been wondering if y’all will be uploading to apple podcast?
As a woman who has stayed at home and worked outside the home I believe supporting women in either role is the true christ like calling. Being disparaging or acting as your role is better than the other is judgmental and defeats whatever lifestyle you say are called to live. Kindness, compassion, encouragement, loving and living a life where Jesus is first is our true mission in life . Our children are our mission field and they model our thoughts and behaviors. So before we say the role we have is the correct one, check your heart does it align with the Bible? Children will see our attitudes and use that as there markers in the faith. The Bible has examples of women working within the home and outside the home. Pride goes before the fall so remember to whatever role we are called humility is the key to success.
I think this topic is so important because young girls need to see fulfilling roles for women because the mainstream media promotes a skewed point of view of women's roles.
Looking forward to listen to this. Thank you, Megan and Jayna ❤
I am a Christian stay at home mom. God told me I needed to stay at home instead of pursue my career. It was difficult because people in our culture can be so judgmental. People would say to me: how are you not broke? What do you do all day? You could babysit my kids or start a daycare!
Our church in Salina, KS Revolution Church who is on TH-cam just talked about gender roles this Sunday. Very informative.
God is the only fulfillment! For all genders. The role as a stay at home mom is important and valuable. He treasures it and we will receive the reward in heaven. People are going to judge and treat us bad for doing the right thing. We just have to keep our heads up and know we are blessing our families🙏
I consider myself a homemaker without children as I am unable to with my specific disabilities. I’d like to remind everyone that sometimes people’s lives look like this bc of disabilities cropping up after (or even before) the marriage in the first place. Ideally I’d have a job along side my husband but I am unable to work like that. But that doesn’t mean we laze about at home either. We still do all the cleaning and laundry, pet care and meals, as well as struggling harder than the average person to just keep my own self alive. My time is filled with house work, caring for my husband, and hobbies. It just takes more time to do these things. You move slower and have to be in tune with yourself and your bodily needs on a given day that can drastically change the course of the day or even week. To sum it up I just want to remind people not to judge what someone’s life appears to be on the surface, we all deserve grace
Being a traditional wife and mother is what you make it. And the rewards of that life far exceed
money and titles. It has worked well for us, but I also understand why so
many women either have to work due to circumstances beyond their control,
or choose to work. Being a stay at home mother and wife is such hard work
and you don't get a paycheck, the appreciation, respect, and acknowlegments
that maybe you would in the workplace. You have to be a person that
can power through those days because you feel deep down what you chose is best for your
family.
Ohh I disagree with Megan. I am a mom to 5 kids 6 months-9 years and homeschool and my time is definitely filled. I feel very content between the Lord and myself with just being at home and serving in this daily capacity. Do I do things that fill my cup, most definitely, but they are in the home. That looks like baking sourdough, gardening, and reading and definitely morning time in the Word. I have zero desire for a “side gig”. I would add since you said being a “baby maker” by choice I would argue God makes babies but also being in the home raising a gaggle of kids for the Lord would be more important than for going that so I could do some”passion of mine” for this world.
I agree.....100%. Even the statement she made about. While I do think you can crack if that is all you do as "baby butt wiping' as she stated I still think there are lovely things you can do as you mentioned without a side gig.
Loved this discussion. I've never seen myself as a stay at home mom. I've worked since I was 15. BUT, as the months and years go by, my heart longs for the day that I can stay at home. Right now, we can't afford it. I work from home, but I'm tied to the computer all day. I loathe my job, but at the end of the day, it's difficult to have one income for a large family.
This is my favourite episode! I’m listening to it for the second time now. It’s an encouraging view on being a SAHM. Sending it to all my friends…
Oooh, I’m raging over the mind is wasted quote!! I’m a college educated, stay at home, homeschooling mom of three. If I can use my education to guide my children in life and help them be even better people than I am, then I believe I will have succeeded and used my mind for the best purpose.
I truly agree with Jayna that said you can be filled by just taking care of your family and home. Fill your time wisely. I do get it said to me all the time "wished I could stay home" but I do sacrifice a lot to stay home. I choose not to have fancy homes and cars and etc. I also do agree there are hardships that don't allow women to be able to stay home. I honestly feel we can support them and help them through this as a stay at home mom. Make meals for them, babysit and help them. :) Love on them. I also agree with Jayna that this is the godly design in the end though.
I do think that even stay at home moms have created our own ways we bring "success" to our world. I also agree with what Jayna mentioned....I see it all the time...how in the world do these stay home moms and homemakers do all they do on these videos and posts too. What kills me is women that have "homemaking" channels that promote lovely homemaking but they have house cleaners because they are so busy with their youtube. hmmmmm
I'm always baffled when a women tells me I should go back to work. That women shouldn't be at home in the name of feminism..... Its the exact opposite of feminism. Feminism is a womens right to choose for herself. Regardless of their choice it should be respected. Especially by other women.
Loved this episode! I make homemaking content just for motivation and to encourage other women in what they do and it was actually watching you is what gave me the desire to make content which took me two years to finally do it!
Just a hobby but I love to uplift other women
It is interesting how the “tradwife movement” really tries to make it seem romantic when we all know that it’s a blessing to be home but it isn’t all sunshine and rainbows! I think that it sets other women up for failure to make them think it’s the most glorious job ever bc they will think they are failing when it’s not that way for them
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for having the courage to give your honest opinions on this topic. Usually when we talk about things like feminism and the Bible people don’t listen to the complexities of what is said because they already decided when they want to hear. It is complicated and the woman in Proverbs 31 is a beautiful example of a wife and a mother that makes money, invests and still fulfills God’s calling for her to her family. I went to an Ivy League for my graduate degree despite much pushback from men in my life whom I love because they didn’t have the privilege to peruse education past high school or complete their degrees. I had an infant at the time and I felt pressured to keep going so I could tell my daughter someday that she can do it all. But the cost was that I missed most of her first year of life crying over my computer doing my statistics homework while my daughter was at the door crying for me to come play with her. I was a teacher and on my way to becoming a policy maker. I was raised to believe that staying at home with my kids is oppressive but I could not justify handing my children to someone else so I could change the lives of every other kid. I tried to have it all. I realized that I have limits and I chose my kids. If you can do it all and work full time and take care of your family and that makes you happy amen. I am still working on reaching that Proverbs 31 wisdom and discernment of how to respect my human limitations while still fulfilling all my callings. I was willing to let go of my family, my ministry, and my health to prove to my daughter that she can do anything. What I’ve learned is just because I can doesn’t mean I should. Now I am a stay at home wife and mom. We are a missionary family, which we never could have been if I wasn’t homeschooling my kids. The Lord is using our family to build a school in a place where there is a very serious need. God is more than faithful because we don’t deserve anything from him, but he is merciful. Women need to stop fighting for what we think is right, to work or not to work or how to work, but we need to turn to God’s word and come to him in prayer and ACCEPT when he is speaking to us regardless of our desires. Only He knows the answers to our specific situation.
Love Jayna's points! So agree with her :)
I seen another comment and agree, Feminism is based on a woman being able to choose, vote and not be owned or beaten by a man. Feminism has made large strides for woman and I believe that God also would want the same for woman. If married to a Godly man and able to be a stay at home parent and wants to be, then that could work well for the family but if one person is not able to make enough money/way for one to remain home, it is not always an option. Doesn’t mean one person ha mental health issues or addictions, just means mortgages and rent are so high that it is not a option for that family. I think this has to be discussed prior to marriage about expectations because if the woman wants to continue to work outside the home and has the education/ employment to do so, then she should have the choice same as the male partner. It is a privilege to be able to live on one income that many do not have. There is so much more to this conversation and so many more factors that influence choice and ability. There are woman and men that feel fulfilled being home but there are others who do not and need something more.
Thank you for bringing this up, it’s an important topic.
In the discussion regarding filling your time and having projects outside of your home and family, I thinks it’s vital to keep in mind your duties, and the hierarchy of duties. Meaning, as a wife and mother, your duty to your spouse and children comes first! In that part of your life your are absolutely irreplaceable! Whether you’re able to do other things outside of the home depends on whether it has a negative impact on your primary duties to husband and children. If it doesn’t and you’re perfectly able to take care of them and your home still, then great, go for it! However if it leaves you with too little time to care for your home or takes you away from your kids for too long etc, then it’s not Gods will for you, even if it’s a beautiful and a good project.
Let's never forget that being a stay-at-home wife/mother is a high calling of God when taken seriously. We have many children in our world today who were not nurtured and taken care of. We have many marriages that were not nurtured and taken care of. It's not a good look.✌️🙏✝️
Thank you enjoyed listening to and it made sense ,look forward to hearing more.God bless you both.
I've noticed I get anxious when someone asked what I do. Its because I dread the comments, "oh, that must be nice, I have to help earn" "oh, my sister did that until her husband left her and she had no job skills or support sonce she hadn't worked in 10 years" "oh, you must miss getting out of the house" "is your husband ok with having to earn all the income?" it's never positive. It's so sad that I'm considered less than because I raise my children myself.
By the way Megan, loved your perspective ❤️ of mental health associated with motherhood. I really don’t believe that it’s being “over achiever” I believe that you need to do what makes you, YOU! And some people are more developed and have their personal self care, love, their perspective of life more developed than others, some people are more intelligent in that way, it’s the truth. And those people need to feed their souls in other to feel alive. And to feed is to live, to be in nature, to do sports, to be by yourself, just you and God. Because that is how you grow as a human, as a mother, as a wife, as a career woman, as a spiritual being! And that is just BEAUTIFUL ❤️ And smart.
Much love Megan 💐
Hi! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this relevant topic.
I am a new stay at home mom, and previously for a couple of years I was a stay at home wife. I call myself our "life manager" because I keep all of the wheels turning at home and in life while my husband makes our income. We used to both work and share more management of the home and we both prefer our current arrangement over that. Plus we always knew we wanted me to be the primary caregiver for our children. Before we had children I needed time to heal some physical issues I was having and my husband very generously encouraged me to stay home and do so. Admittedly I did spend a lot of time sitting around watching videos like you mentioned 😐 But it was all part of a process for me to heal and learn homemaking skills. Now that our first daughter is here I'm so grateful to have had that time.
It is a "privilege," but I prefer "blessing" as you phrased it. Plus in our case it was earned. We spent time both working and running around to earn money, paying off debt, saving money, and setting up our life so that it worked for me to stay home. I didn't just say "nah, I don't want to work anymore." Although in moments of weakness I did feal that way. Plus for me my desire was always to be married and have a family - the more I thought about it the more I didn't feel the need for specific career achievements.
Now I'm faced with a new issue where the limited part time work that I had continued doesn't fit with my new life with our daughter. Some of it I held onto so I did have something in addition to homemaking and mothering, but I'm finding it is important to be very intentional about what that is. What am I willing to devote myself to outside of my family? Now I am in the process of completing the little paid work I have still been doing and it feels really right. At the same time I am working to realize a shared goal that my husband and I have of a blog and TH-cam channel. So that feels like it's closer to home and therefore more "alongside" my family as you said, rather than outside my family 😀
You ladies are wonderful! I agree with everything you said. I LOVE serving my family and I am so grateful and blessed to be a "homemaker." 😊
Really enjoy listening to whatever topic you ladies are discussing. I’m almost 60 and grew up in a conservative, Christian home. My mom was a SAHM for many years until my dad’s health kept him at home. Then, my mom was the one working outside the home. There was no other choice. I stayed at home with my girls until they went to school and then I worked outside the home for twenty years. Now I’m a busy Grandmother and stay at home Pastor’s wife. My life is very fulfilling and I’m very content! God bless you sweet ladies and your precious families! 😀❤️
I loved this episode!!! Im a christian single Mom, run a small business and homeschool my youngest ( my oldest has graduated) and I can't wait for the day that God brings along a husband to lead our home!!! Now i submit to God, he is (and will continue to be) the head of the home here. But sister, im tired!!!Ha!!! Where is my Godly man??? Any day now 😂
In all seriousness, I will likely continue working in my salon once i remarry because I truly love my job but honoring God by serving my husband, my children and my home is my hearts desire. I am so encouraged after this podcast, keep speaking truth ladies ❤
I also am someone who always wanted to be a trad wife and Sahm mom but have to work right now for financial reasons. I do try to find a happy medium by working part time so I’m home with the kids some as well. I’m hoping that someday I can stay home, but for now I am making the most of it and it’s nice to have something I enjoy and I appreciate my kids more and don’t feel as burnt out in my mothering . I will say it is harder to juggle both sometimes, but I know there are things that are hard about being exclusively at home. That’s why I think having a hobby or time to yourself is so important either way
I’ve loved being a mom(grandma now)at home.I’ve not been idle.. I enjoy cooking ,baking,cleaning ,gardening,canning..and helping out with my grands. I’m glad to see the moms of my grandchildren content doing the same. This was a good discussion.
Glad you are open to different views and ideas. I am a Mom to three young girls. About the ages of your children. We have a big garden. I do lots of canning. We homeschool. Right now I don't have a dishwasher or dryer. So I am a very busy mama. 😊
Hello LovelyLadies
I dont comment often, but I had too
Im a 60 yr old Christian woman, married, mum of 4 and 7 grand children
our life is centered around God, Church and each other and family, last minute baking, family get togethers and cleaning, its not boring or easy, BUT it fufilling!
I know God made me to be Mrs. and Pauls wife and my childrens mum.
I havent always been a Christian, BUT with God number 1, my life is very busy and fufilling
Im writing a cookbook, a soap maker and bread baker and I do sell it along with some crafts
God bless ALL WOMAN, WIVES, MUMS AND GRANDMAS
Love you all xoxoxoxoxox
Love this! So good! I loved Hayley’s video also! I love seeing this topic being talked about a lot by so many I follow lately! 💕
I am always amazed by people who suggest that homemaking or stay-at-home-momming is a waste of a woman's mind. The hand that rocks the cradle raises the next generation. That is an enormous and powerful calling! Every doctor, teacher, president, politician, rocket scientist, and pope had a mother who raised them and helped put them on that path. If raises the next generation of the world is a waste of the mind, what does that say about the rest of the roles in society? Motherhood is such a gift and an honor and a huge responsibility. Praying for you mamas!
I'm not a frequent commenter, but I just wanted to say I really appreciated this episode. I'm a happy wife and homemaker and I also homeschool my five children. I've been listening to you girls since you got started and it feels like sitting with friends, I enjoy hearing you girls discuss things. I'm not a Mennonite, but I am a Bible believing Christian and I just want to tell you this is so encouraging and fun to me!
Oh wow, I've watched Hayley Paige on and off for years, fun to see a shoutout to her from this channel! Gosh, it would be so cool if you'd interview other mama channels like The Mom's View used to do. But at the same time, I just love you ladies chatting, it's the best!
I don’t think women need something to fill their time necessarily, I think it’s more about finding something outside of your homemaker vocation so you don’t get burnt out. It’s the same as needing to rest and relax to recharge so we don’t snap or crack like Megan said. I also think it can help you to appreciate your children and home more when you spend a little time away occasionally or put energy into something you enjoy and that nourishes you
Loved this. You both would enjoy the book Eve in Exile. Gives a great history of feminism and a biblical worldview. The documentary that goes along with is excellent as well! Hugs from a happy homemaker in Oregon 🥰
Proverbs 31: 24
"She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant."
Homemakers can also make money for the household and still be considered legitimate biblical keepers of the home.
Exactly. People who say otherwise are not reading their Bibles; and if they are, they're not comprehending.
I love this passage!
I have 3 kiddos, and let me tell you my time is filled! We homeschool, we small scale homestead, we make everything from scratch and preserve most of our food. I am 100% content. I do some crocheting/knittint in the evenings when everyone is in bed. I swear I'm an old soul, I'm only 32 😂. I don't feel the need to do anything else. I will say I have a loving husband who loves God and leads us to do the same, so that really makes a big difference!
I love listening to this podcast so much! You two are so awesome ❤.
Seriously the back bone of the world is a good home MAKER! Blessed in Pennsylvania…..❤
I agree, Jana, that a woman can find fulfillment in being a mom and wife... if her time is filled! I have 3 toddlers and that's me😊
In a big scheme of things no one can have everything. We are all on many different spectrums, not all women are the same, not all men are the same. I think that the take home message is- we should be able to do what we find right for us. And that’s the idea behind the feminism, we should make the same money as men if we do the same work as them. It doesn’t mean that we must do so, but we want that option if we choose it and we have skills, talents, and abilities.
The reason I watch your videos is because my life looks nothing like yours. I am not Christian, nor American, I work full time (oftentimes more than full time), and don’t have children. That being said, I love your aesthetic, different approach to every day living, and how you navigate this world. There are many Mennonite content creators out there, but you are the only person who’s videos I watch consistently. It has to do with your talent, quality of your work, and ability to connect with people.
I think, trends come and go, and it is ok to try different things in life to find what works best for oneself as long as we stay respectful towards each other and appreciate each other’s added value.
I was waiting for an episode for ever checking everyday 🥳🥳🥳 so happy to have another season!
Tbe conversation between the two of you is golden.❤
Maybe we do need a purpose so we feel like we are more than what we do as wives and mothers. I need hobbies and friends, too. We homeschool but from time to time, we try to plan at least one outing. The outing can be anything from shopping to eating out to a paint party. It keeps me in line and reminds me that I need to have fun, too.