Sanatan Shastar Vidiya - The Chakar /Chakram
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- The History Channel investigate whether a Chakar can chop off a limb as recorded in historical texts. Nihang Niddar Singh demonstrates the use of the Chakar and provides a brief discription.
the warrior had such an overwhelmingly casual, natural english that it threw me off, i thought i was hearing a voice-over
When the English colonized india, they made the language widely popular.
@Vitruvius Antarchius Yup, can't say I like it even a little bit, and I'm not Indian or anything but I feel for their culture.
that's because he's british
I have the same thought when he started talking
Clearly raised in England, where there is a vast Sikh community.
"Will it be able to cut through?"
*Literally just a single one is thrown*
...
"Through our investigation we have discovered that Barbossas account was true!"
Rakinjo2 Regardless, I wouldn't want to get hit by one.
Scawking
Well, another thing to consider is the fact that it would be a bare bone. Tense muscle tissue, fat and skin is likely going to stop the blade before it gets that far, not to mention fabric - particularly wool.
I recon it could probably go through a lower leg bone (I forget the medical term) if it was completely exposed the same way a bullet might go through a brick wall - But with appropriate resistance beforehand it's not going to stand a chance - Especially not when the blade is serrated.
Rakinjo2 In Old times, it cut them completely. there is a story of Nihang tribal SIkhs killing british only with these weapons and nothing else and actually winning them. Even when the britians had guns on them.
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You really need to go back and look through that comment on yours because it makes very little sense.
Rakinjo2 no I really don't
This just goes to show that “skallagrim” needs to practice with his chakram 😂
LOL just came from skalls vid about it
TexMex i know right 😂
@@texmex8220 I think a lot of us did! XD
Just saw it and thought about this video hahaha
Cane is much weaker than bone(weaker than wood too) though, and there would be the meat and clothes before that. However these could still deal some damage and were not used for killing power. Though Skall definitely needs practice as reportedly trained warriors can throw these over 200 feet and to cut fingers.
On the off chance it didn't go through a limb, having a big metal Chakar lodged waaaaaay deep in a limb doesn't exactly seem optimal either.
+Pol Subanajouy Hit or not though, they carried tons of them. You saw one thrown at you, you were scared
I can 100% guarantee you that it would almost never go through a limb except aybe a finger.
A fucking sugarcane is not the same as a human bone, and the bone also has tissue around it.
MagnificentXXBastard
lets assume you are true, it would still make a big cut into the tissue, rendering the arm probably ineffective
Wouldn't work against an even lightly armored opponent.
+Jedi
Depends on the armor the target is wearing.
In general, I don't think this would be that effective of a throwing weapon compared to more popular ones like throwing spears. It's lighter so easier to carry more of, but military throwing weapons rely on mass to generate enough force to pierce armor and do damage so i would take a unit of javelins over this any day.
Also, tearing into an arm is a far cry from the ridiculous original claim made in the video that it cuts limbs clean off.
The real danger of these weapons is that the blades are pretty thin, imagine one thrown at high speed, you could hardly see it.
Someone designed a sling for these things. I didn't see the blade swinging on it until it slammed halfway into a solid stone brick. The blade dug in about half to a third in and just snaped. Their simple, but ungodly.
You really think it is possible to throw this so hard that it won't be seen!? You serious lmao
@Dazzy Bakemono can't penetrate plate. You are safe with plate
@@bobthebuilder2922 if it was approaching you edge on there is absolutely no way in hell you would see it.
@@MYeahman yes you would. Saw a video where people tested posibility of blocking or dodging am arrow and it is.
Let's say a knight woth full plate armour doesn't see it notice it coming. The knight still would be safe
I have seen Sikhs wear these on some of their turbans. I had no idea that they could be used as weapons, much like their arm ring can be used, as well.
Sikhs are turning out to be good ninja!
Kesari movie me lol
There's a reason why they were NOT converted to Islam. Haha
M R Don’t gloat they are hybrid Muslims
@@setback4908 yes brother all men and women who encountered the evil demented muguls had to lay down there lives for the greater good . thanks
@@maniacram all religion is just people brainwashing others to believe in a control system or explain things that they don't understand in a silly supernatural way that doesn't involve facts proven through repeatable experimentation . Muslims unfortunately force people by threat of death, second class citizenry or social stigma pressure and ridicule. I doubt the warriors you mentioned would describe themselves as you have. Islam , Judaism, Christianity, even Buddhism and Hinduism and other such creative man made ideas are all hybrids of what came before them. It's all just software and programming.
This seems like a old school "parry this you casual."
This guy is the biggest fraud ever (the Indian Sikh)
This guy would be sick at ultimate frisbee
this IS the ultimate frisbee
lol sikh
Ace Alvarez
Ultimate frisbee
TO THE DEATH
Ace Alvarez Like the Chinese who have Stars that they shoot...the metal sharp stars Ninjas use...A Sikh would Kill a Samurai or Ninja together
THESES WEAPONS WERE ON THE SHOW FORGED AND ONE OTHER SHOW DEADLY WARRIORS
I am so stunned to read so many experts' review under. History channel should hire them all.
😂😂
Go watch CNN dumbass
😂😂😂😂
John Wick we do our best
They're all fat kids from Reddit pretending to be intelligent by using big words and Google
They always go into this acting like they're discovering some strange mystery and then just ask one of the people who lives there
Not really.
The "Guru" is a fraud.
He has literally bought books and watched youtube videos and "made up" his own martial arts and claim that its Sikh martial arts that are thousands of years old.
A fraud.
He even had to publicially ask the other Sikhs for forgiveness because he was scamming Sikhs and others with this fake martial arts.
16th century was medieval not ancient
At least by European standards the middle ages ended in the 15th century.
Kunal Singh -
Yes, 16th century is not ancient.
However, the roots of Shastra Vidhya martial arts are ancient
Truth a few thousand year does not make it ancient. AL-188 (lucy) is ancient. Pyramids are ancient. Indian martial arts are not.
Kai Kwon Fu -
The ancient Indian epic called the Mahabharata has been accurrately dated with astronomical data to be around 3100 BC. The Mahabharata is full of descriptions of wrestling, warriors, martial skills, warfare, weapons, military tactics, etc. The Shastra Vidhya texts are either from that period and before or were a descendant of the martial arts knowledge from that period and before. The fact that the numerous types of fighting styles contained within the Shastra Vidhya texts are named after Indian Gods and their creature mounts gives an indication that they are quite ancient. More modern Indian texts do not take so much inspiration from Gods and animals.
Truth You are talking the difference between 5-6000 years and 100s of thousands of years.
when you see history channel with 480p you know its good
Plot twist: The Chakar is what was actually in Oddjob's hat brim all along.
Durga has one.
It's plot twist for those who don't know that it is kept there alongwith on arms
That's where the Yankee brim went to
This guy us super duper idiot
and Kung Lao too
Proud on our sikh brother's 😀❤️
We Indians are proud to have Sikhs, No one can defeat us.
This guy is just Captain Nemo from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
You fucking MORON !!!!!!!
If you liked his acting, the artist's name is Naseerudin Shah, and he is a very accomolished and well respected figure in the Indian film Industry. Check out A Wednesday, by him.
Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
He is not like fake Punjabi Sikhs he is the real one who respects Sanatan Dharma 🕉️ for this rare education it provided ❤️❤️❤️
He is a Fake Sikh.
@@antiquefuturisticyou can't decide that
@@jassimarsingh6505 he litteraly had to appologies at hazur sahib and couldnt say anything infront of the other nihangs because of the complete lies he preaches
@@factkage7282that was because some stupid guys from the UK took one quote from his book in the masters presence and showed it to Hazuri singhs with zero context. Hazuri singhs can’t even read English. Also he was supported by jathedar baba prem singh 96 crori.
@@jassimarsingh6505 Almost all Nihang Singhs don't support him like he litteraly was still preaching complete lies about sikhi he said things like Guru Gobind Singh Ji was a hindu which is completely unacceptable
Lord Shri Krishan ji would also keep the chakra known as sudarshan chakar .
Gurcharan Singh
True
That's very advanced chakra bro..as it's in almighty krishna hand...which can cut any thing that comes on it's way and after hitting the infinite target it comes back.
Chakra was used in MahaBharata times too.
@pendle Dude WTF
Pendle- your mom was a virgin when she gave birth to you. Can you prove me wrong?
We as indians are indebted to you Sir and this ancient parampara for our freedom.
Chakram = The ancient version of the Discs Of Tron = Totally Badass
they fucked sucked
Disc Wars! (Boom Boom) Disc Wars! (Boom Boom)
You joelmite ediot,fuck
@@andymatheson82 u westerns don't know nothing than f words .
No sabía que existía un arma así, gracias Mushoku Tensei
Most of the Indian scriptures of Nalanda University (world's first University with hostel facility) were burnt out during muslim invasion of India..I have Heard that the books were continuously burnt for more than a month..
They destroyed us...but still we survived..and the day is not so far when India will again gain it's position of Vishwa guru..om Shanti 🙏🚩🇮🇳
Between the Muslims and the Mongols, most of the world's knowledge was destroyed.
India is becoming a muslim country.
@@Sylentmana It was Alexander who burned the library in Egypt. And Nalanda was a crap hole before one Muslim king raided it, nothing important there.
Well said
@@islamicsenpai what do u know about indian knowledge base ?
Ancient Indian text, has very important informations,and much more to offer.
Those disks are hard to see when thrown
And yet Guts saw them🥶🥶🥶
Am i too high or does the Sikh warrior sound almost Scottish in some phrases.
'Through our investigation, we have discovered what these guys have known for at least a thousand years....' SMH.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
Jai Shri Krishna🙏🙏🙏
Har Har mahadev ❣️❣️❣️❣️
Mere sikh bhaiyo ko pranam 🇮🇳❣️
This weapon was mainly used By Lord Vishnu Name Sudarshan Chakra..then this weapon is also added in Upved Called Dhanur Ved this holy book have description of all kinds of Astra and Shastra and how to used them in several conditions and techniques.
Sura so pahchaniye jo lare din ke het purja purja kat mare kabhuon chhado khet..... Thanks......
Man india is so clouded with the oldest history some of it is hidden knowledge very admirable inspiring and beautiful people
I always loved watching xena use it in the show.
Imagine hundreds of nihang Singh’s standing far enough to throw hundreds of these at enemies, you can’t even see them just feel them as they rip thru your flesh.
But also it would be a very clean cut meaning it can be easily stitched up. And something that light probably cant fly very far so you would have to be pretty close to use them. So I would just use a bow, or a shield, or just wear plat armor.
Ivan Stayner for sure I think the range is about 150-200ft for steel Chakars and about 300ft for brass chakars. There’s a lot of factors that come into play; accuracy, distance, weather conditions, weak spots on opponents,etc.
@@ranvirsingh5167 150-200 Ft seems pretty far. And to be accurate at that distance. I would say you can probably throw it about 30 Ft, since it has no center lifting point. And even at that distance it would not be accurate or useful. Since it would have slowed down so much you could probably just catch it. And plat armor with chain mail. There is probably no weak points you can try to hit. I could be very wrong about everything tho.
Ivan Stayner a stack of chakars could be thrown fast and efficiently from horseback, this could allow for lethal hits. It’s shape makes it more aerodynamic and back then nihang warriors were known for their accuracy with the chakar. Even one throw to an enemies neck will cause death.
@@ranvirsingh5167 Oh I don't doubt it. Thouse look like they could do some serious damage.
Wahe guru ji da khalsa,,,,,wahe guru ji di fateh.....jo bole so nihal.....sat sri akaaal
1:17-1:27 you only get how cool this technique is when you slow it down (i.e. just click play/pause quickly enough) just to see how many kills he makes per second.. his overall stance has a mellow fluidity, a gentle ebb, but when you look at the powerful slashes of his weapons you realize how invisibly deadly it is
PROUD TO BE A SIKH
Looking like shit tho
KESARI
JO BOLE SO NIHAL
Ssa
Rohit B SAT SRI AKAL
Sat Sri akal
Sat Sri Akal
what is the name of this documentary
Dhan ho Khalsa ji! Satguru hor chardi kala bakhshan ji!
Lol wut nobody makes sacrifices to any goddess in Sikhism
No. There are no sacrifices period (speaking from 1st hand experience). Also, Idk where you got the idea that I was talking about humans lol
watch goat sacrifices in gurudwaras by sikhs . lots of videos available in youtube
misguided traditions
Hanu- man what never heard of this?
then why do Sikhs sacrifice goats in Harmandir Sahib? now dont say that's it's a lie.
I heard of them since the mid 90s when the series Xena warrior princess did research and it actually existed
Chakram looks like a simple ring in disguise, but it is a circular sharp knife to cut the limb of the enemy.
I love historical concealable weapons. The classic version of the Karambit is similar
Can someone please tell me the name of this History channel show and what was the episode. I would like to watch the complete epidose. Thank you!
And here I am brought by the TH-cam algorithm because I watched someone figuring out how to throw one of these bad boys
Insert " Xena!" Warcry
Guruji you r awesome you r teaching is in true Sanatan way.
Happy to see lot of experts in the comments
It took 8 years to get on my recomendation
And this is a side special option for the mii swordfighter in super smash bros. 4 lol
This is intriguing, unique, and terrifying in a way that gets the imagination firing on all cylinders. Very cool!
I’m amazed how it can sever a limb 🦵 i would be terrified to go up against that weapon
Love Sikh people. They are a religion built by warriors, defenders of india from the Muslim invasions. May they have strength to keep india indian. Love from the U.S.!
Sorry brother but he is not a real Sikh
@vikas chaudary It's disputed because he speaks differently of the religion and he is referred has a fake Nihang by the Nihangs in India and he actually has apologized to them at a temple. He is not welcomed in India and was told to stop referring himself as a Nihang.
He does have skill and actually refers to himself as the last Sikh warrior, I mean come on there are hundreds of thousands in India.
Sikhism started very late. Marathas actually defended India. Sikh empire was small.
Manpreet Rajput
Said the guy with "Rajput" as his surname.
@@gabbar51ngh From each other
Hinduism was more advanced until British came
There wasn't any Hinduism until British came,n these are sanatan martial arts hindu is word given by Islamic to the people of hind n Hinduism is word given by British to distinguish Muslim n us
@@vishkiller23 Thats right. Arabian traders gave the name Hindustan
@@Goku-km2lk 70 percent of people dont know shit because of British n British favorites Congress, fake propaganda party they did more harm to our culture
@@vishkiller23 hmmm
Hindu means Thief...
lol
I have heard of large chakra being used in battle that required launching devices. the blade had holes drilled through so it would scream as it sailed through a battle. anyone know of any truth behind this? small ones are scary but a screaming blade the size of a Volkswagen hood would be brutal
Watching this as a reference for a video game Im making lol. Its called Dwerve, there will be a chakram tower.
How's the game going?
In keeping with history channel standards, the part you want to see in the 3:53 video begins at 3:33.
I have recently travelled to Punjab and visited some of the holy men of the Sikh faith. Discussed their belief system and learnt a bit about history.
It was heartening to see how spiritually inclined the Gurus were. In my personal opinion I see it as a reformist, revivalist, simplifying movement in the then decadent Indian socio-politico-religious scenario.
I was glad to see the similarities between Sikhism, Islam, Sanathan beliefs and the original message of Christ and other major religions- Monotheism! - one true creator, no images, no statues, no worshiping of any thing created.. purely the formless almighty is to be worshipped.
Forbidding and suppressing evil tyranny and oppression... while enjoining good.
The differences can be discussed but that's another topic.
Now.... as a practicing Muslim - although I am not and neither were my ancestors responsible for the bloody oppression that the wazirs and generals of the Mughal empire unleashed on the non-Muslim population of that time... and all this in the name of getting people into Islam!!!... I would like to identify that oppression as oppression and apologize to the Sikh community.
The Sikh brothers and sisters are so close to the Islamic creed that the Muslims who are not in the know will be surprised!!!!!
I have a question to the Mughal might- you knew it or you didn't know it.. however, were you inviting the Sikhs to Islam or were you turning them away!!!!!?
Thank God for the Nawab of Malerkotla and some good souls who identified oppression and spoke the truth. Some saving grace.
Muslims have a lot of work to do in tearing down these fences, stop being arrogant and intolerant and start living by the virtues of the Quran and the original morals of prophet Muhammad (May God's peace be upon him).
I hope people from the subcontinent are reading this.
-Peace and love my brothers in humanity.
Sikhism is a better alternative to Islam
Jr s religion is something you just pick and choose like fruit at a market
Sikhi believes the creation and creator to be one and the same thing. which essentially means that Sikhi is not monotheistic but panentheistic- the belief of perceiving everything known or unknown as ONE.
This is where Islam and Christianity differ from indic dharma. Abrahimic religions view the universe with an eye of duality creating the perception of distinction between God and Man.
@@sahibsingh3527 does it mean that sikhi believes in the brahman, which is the eternal cosmic being comprising of everything that exists?
@@Comm3mihir yes. ours is the advait philosophy but bhagti is still superior to all philosophies.
What program was this? I'd love to watch the full thing.
Woah! That's lethal. Impressed
Sikhs wear these chakra around their turbans , shown in 1871 Saragrhi war against Afghans
quick Pro
Much earlier since 1600’s
@@bobsingh5521 even before 1600s
Mushoku tensei?
Nice information about the Chakra
How to unlock that chakara in god of war 4.
I wonder where my Great great grandmothers family was from in India they were very very dark skinned with long straight black hair short as well most likely a stocky build but that could be many different Indian group I known that they were from Christian East India but left when the British were kicked out they move to Jamaica where they had my great great grandmother francila.
1:50 One look in his eyes and you know shouldn't fuck with him.
IKR!
you see thousands of years of genetics and dna and ancestral blood from his ancestors known as the saka scythians who invaded punjabi 2000years ago... you see it through his hazel green brown eyes that they are the elite force (closest look is dothraki from GoT)
Golden Memes yet this man is a fraud.
What is the name of this "History Channel" series, please?
What show is this from? Amazing content
indians were & still are the smartest and most ingenious people on the earth no doubt love india
Har Har Mahadev 🔱 Waheguru Ji 🙏 Jai Hind 🇮🇳
What is that first weapon called that's like slingy swords
I wonder if this is where "chucking" an object came from?
I'd love to see a demonstration of this with close range combat.
Mareșalul Alexandru Averescu. you can't imitate throwing something and slicing through limb which is what the chakram is for, it's not the same as a wooden sword practice to get a better feel for a fight, with blocking, disarming, and other non-throwing things you can do in a fight
Veronica Stetler Today close combat does not take place because weaponry is extremely lethal.What this guy is showing are weapons in fast moving skirmish in high grass,bush.He has made up Hindu weapon philosophy as Sikh fighting arts..He is a fraud.
Does this require fancy dress & ZZ Top beard to use effectively?
yes
i am so geting one of these!
Now I know where did those discs from Tron came from
His fluent English amaze me more than his skill in weapons... 😃
Oh cmon...it's just a fukkin language! what's surprising in that?!?...lmao
@@deltaman2283 salute!
@@kalosmi3385 Granted my friend!
Xena: Warrior Princess brought me here :]
Sir hame v sikhna hai address please help me please reply
What documentary is this taken from?
I see where Disney got the idea of having a disc as a weapon in Tron. :)
Am a sikh=warrior
Vishnu in Persona 5 has one of these. He just endlessly twirls it on his finger because he only has gun and wind skills naturally.
I think the best way to describe a chakkar or chakram is, it's a sharpened, steel Aerobie
Bro if our bones had the same consistency as sugarcane we’d all be in wheelchairs with broken legs. This is absurd.
sure, but the velocity of the device and the rotation of it. with how thin it is. they are razor sharp. have a constant curve. it might not go clean through everyone, but men were skinnier in india too. a body builder, it'd still cause enough damage to lose a majority of use of your arm or leg. thats why it was so viable. not the greatest weapon, as many of it's techniques teach you to throw it. its like a knife fight, and you throw your knife, only to be a guy now without his weapon. so they carried 10 of these rings. anyone with a shield and sword would have a decent advantage, especially a spear. but someone with these vs someone with a knife? these offer much more consistency for range and effectiveness, while throwing a knife takes great skill. no one is saying these are the greatest weapon, but obviously they have their place. its basically the comparative of a knife in combat. but as i've read, they teach more to use these in defense rather than offense, to let the opponent hurt themselves. which studying the nature of it, makes more sense. its a mid range, to defense style weapon. as using it to attack at close range could cause injury to yourself, but having 10 of these on your arms and blocking a punch, or one in your hand to roll around, would keep an aggressor at bay. neutralizing two offenses and ending a fight.
@@treatb09 He was only talking about sugarcanes, chill.
Try to break a sugar cane. I’m sure you have never lived near a place that grows canes.
No, it's not absurd. At the hands of a trained Sikh you would die very fast.
Do you really think there were other things that could take place of limbs to practice?
Bow and arrow more effective. Easy to use. And cheap
The “the mortal instruments” book series brought me here
From what I’ve seen Sikhs have some of the coolest history in weaponry and martial arts
"Through our investigations" mate you got an Indian dude to through a metal ring at a tree wtf
The "Indian dude" is a Sikh medieval weapons expert. Seems like the best person to test a theory.
Pure Hinduism shastra vidiya moved to sikhs warriors andh8ndi rajpoots and sikhs very unity to fight againts mugals. Shastra vidiya hindusikh
Very nice
Does it do some damage? Sure
Does it sever limbs? Doubt
Dude thats so Sickh.
Oh right
try with a dead pig..see how far it will go through clothes soft tissue and finally bone..I would say not enough to cause sufficient damage.
Alot of people are saying that it's not effective. It's a projectile. If it doesn't kill, it penetrates or lacerates. It's enough to seriously wound from a distance, in which case it has served its purpose. Not to say there aren't alternatives.
Imagine a hail of these thrown at an enemy charge before they can even engage....
But why the bad sound effects?
That's the same weapon used by Kung Lao in Mortal Kombat. Actually it was his hat, but it was used in the exact same way as this chakram.
this program is a bit slow moving , if you want to see a good demo watch 'weapons master ' on the chakram much better idea of actual potential
No they don't use the Chakram well
Well now, this is very interesting! So the Chakram isn't just a fantasy thing.
Though, in all fairness, it is pretty much just a refined circular saw blade, ain't it?
+Rain Diamondheart Or maybe.... the saw blade is a un-refined Chakram... DUN DUN DUNNNN!
Amazing
the spinning motion makes me think of slings.