I know that I'm a sinner, more than I ever could imagine. I had gotten away from people, I was already a loner, so I had an edge I thought over the extroverts. My wife wasn't saved, but I had managed to get and myself away from the hustle and bustle of living in the city. Although we were away from our family and her friends, she wasn't satisfied with the simple life style that I had provided for us. I knew myself well enough that I didn't want to sin, I didn't want to be around the pain and confusion of sinful people, like myself. My then wife didn't understand this. Well her friend and relatives led to her cheating on me.
I understand that "hate the sin, not the sinner" means that we and our actions need to be judged separately. A person must confess and be responsible for his actions (sins). I think they separe sin and sinner, because one of them can be redeemed (sinner) and the other not (sin).
The fact in the bible that sin and the sinner are separated is that the bible shows the possibility of redemption, in my opinion. How can redemption exist if the sinner cannot dissociate himself from his sin?
@@HolyMuchii no they are not separated in the bible space cadet millennial. Typical you have no bibel verses you do not know any of it. You are only quoting your own sensibilities and evilly dishonestly putting it forth as th bible which you have never known.
@@iacoponefurio1915The bible tells a story, right? You say that all interactions that Jesus had in life can be sustained by your point between sinner and sin? Jesus path/words is the fountain of the Crist values, the only that is 100% reliable. ~ Saying that, how you interpret the case of the thief (sinner) that Jesus forgave? I'm here to discuss an idea. You don't know me to infer that (It's just your hypothesis), you can only use my words to truly judge me. I recommend to put the verse (like Romans 8 18) to be more specific than just saying from bible.
Psalm 5:5 says God HATES all workers of iniquity. Psalm 11:5 says God’s soul HATES the wicked, and those that love violence. And the Bible teaches that we are to love what God loves, AND we are to HATE what God hates. And it says that if someone condones, or supports the wicked, He considers them an enabler, and holds them equally guilty of their sins. (Like aiding and abetting in a crime)
Just commenting honestly and with no mean to offend, just to share how I see it as an apostate ... That phrase feels like an excuse as a convenient way to judge someone while avoiding being seen as judgemental. It seems very pompous and judgemental while seeming to avoid negative judgements on oneself. I hate it because it seems like a closed statement with no option for critical thinking while insulting innocent pure people.
God does not love the sinner. Psalms says he abhors the wicked. We say God hates the sin but loves the sinner, well...he is not sending the sin to hell!! He hated Esau, and all who do evil Psalm 5. He is kind to all, sending the rain on the just and unjust but everyday the sinner refuses to repent heaps up wrath on himself. Also, it says, in Psalm 51, a broken and contrite heart, oh God, you will never despise.
this phrase isnt even biblical, christ never liked sin or sinners, god hates sin same as christ, sitting with sinners which in this moment repent isnt being friends with them and constant meet
I agree I work with homosexuals trans genders you name it and I do not hate not one of them I look at those people and most are great people and as much as i know they are doing something I do not believe in I actually love some of them unconditionally
You are totally deceived. Obvious millennial. Thats not even a real thing. Just sexual deviants of all sorts who hate God and demand their freedom from him. You and they hate The Real God.
No you can't you can't sin and be a follower of christ, God hates the wicked that's why he destroyed Sodom and gommorah that's why he also is merciful giving us a chance to repent and change our ways but that doesn't mean he doesn't love us, he loves us that he wants us to repeat and be perfect like him, don't love the sinner and hate the sin.that just makes it seem like your God, God hates the wicked, the lord despises the gay people but he has mercy so the gay people have time to repent and turn from there evil ways, if you want to show your love to gay people, you must help them repent from there evil ways because there sin will lead them to hell
Jesus type of death shows YHVH righteous just virulent unquenchable hatred of sin. For us its not personal. Our law enforcers fill a position to enforce someone elses law. For Elohim Adonai it is entirely personal He set the universe in motion and He despises all sin and sinner. Be sure to do ALL i have commanded you so my soul will not abhor or hate you. He will not ignore those who hate him but will repay them to their face what they deserve and destroy them.
"Preach the Gospel always...use words if you have to."
Saint Francis of Assisi
"Live the gospel before you preach the gospel" 🌱
The problem is Christians use it on Christians. It’s used to justify judging others to be frank.
I know that I'm a sinner, more than I ever could imagine. I had gotten away from people, I was already a loner, so I had an edge I thought over the extroverts. My wife wasn't saved, but I had managed to get and myself away from the hustle and bustle of living in the city. Although we were away from our family and her friends, she wasn't satisfied with the simple life style that I had provided for us. I knew myself well enough that I didn't want to sin, I didn't want to be around the pain and confusion of sinful people, like myself. My then wife didn't understand this. Well her friend and relatives led to her cheating on me.
I understand that "hate the sin, not the sinner" means that we and our actions need to be judged separately. A person must confess and be responsible for his actions (sins). I think they separe sin and sinner, because one of them can be redeemed (sinner) and the other not (sin).
You need to read the Bible,the sinner will be send to hell,not just his sin
The fact in the bible that sin and the sinner are separated is that the bible shows the possibility of redemption, in my opinion. How can redemption exist if the sinner cannot dissociate himself from his sin?
@@HolyMuchii no they are not separated in the bible space cadet millennial. Typical you have no bibel verses you do not know any of it. You are only quoting your own sensibilities and evilly dishonestly putting it forth as th bible which you have never known.
"Make sure to do ALL i have commanded so my soul will not abhor or hate you. "
Bible
@@iacoponefurio1915The bible tells a story, right? You say that all interactions that Jesus had in life can be sustained by your point between sinner and sin?
Jesus path/words is the fountain of the Crist values, the only that is 100% reliable. ~ Saying that, how you interpret the case of the thief (sinner) that Jesus forgave?
I'm here to discuss an idea. You don't know me to infer that (It's just your hypothesis), you can only use my words to truly judge me.
I recommend to put the verse (like Romans 8 18) to be more specific than just saying from bible.
Psalm 5:5 says God HATES all workers of iniquity. Psalm 11:5 says God’s soul HATES the wicked, and those that love violence. And the Bible teaches that we are to love what God loves, AND we are to HATE what God hates. And it says that if someone condones, or supports the wicked, He considers them an enabler, and holds them equally guilty of their sins. (Like aiding and abetting in a crime)
Psalm 7.11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Just commenting honestly and with no mean to offend, just to share how I see it as an apostate ... That phrase feels like an excuse as a convenient way to judge someone while avoiding being seen as judgemental. It seems very pompous and judgemental while seeming to avoid negative judgements on oneself. I hate it because it seems like a closed statement with no option for critical thinking while insulting innocent pure people.
It depends on the situation for me.
Wow thanks for this 💕💕
Thank you . And you're right .
God does not love the sinner. Psalms says he abhors the wicked. We say God hates the sin but loves the sinner, well...he is not sending the sin to hell!! He hated Esau, and all who do evil Psalm 5. He is kind to all, sending the rain on the just and unjust but everyday the sinner refuses to repent heaps up wrath on himself. Also, it says, in Psalm 51, a broken and contrite heart, oh God, you will never despise.
Wonder if God loves the sinner, wonder if all goes to heaven
Wonder why Jesus came
Don't have to do this😎😎😎
We must preach God's Word too. Show them where if they do not repent and change their ways, they will be judged and sent to hell. That is love
"That is love". I'm so happy your religion is dying out. Humanity still has a chance to flourish.
@@JMcKey21 what religion do you mean? Belief in God is fact.
this phrase isnt even biblical, christ never liked sin or sinners, god hates sin same as christ, sitting with sinners which in this moment repent isnt being friends with them and constant meet
I agree I work with homosexuals trans genders you name it and I do not hate not one of them I look at those people and most are great people and as much as i know they are doing something I do not believe in I actually love some of them unconditionally
You can be LGBT and Christian
You are totally deceived. Obvious millennial. Thats not even a real thing. Just sexual deviants of all sorts who hate God and demand their freedom from him. You and they hate The Real God.
@@iacoponefurio1915 amen, people try to validate their lifestyles but God doesn't validate it and his word is and always will be just.
No you can't you can't sin and be a follower of christ, God hates the wicked that's why he destroyed Sodom and gommorah that's why he also is merciful giving us a chance to repent and change our ways but that doesn't mean he doesn't love us, he loves us that he wants us to repeat and be perfect like him, don't love the sinner and hate the sin.that just makes it seem like your God, God hates the wicked, the lord despises the gay people but he has mercy so the gay people have time to repent and turn from there evil ways, if you want to show your love to gay people, you must help them repent from there evil ways because there sin will lead them to hell
@@Romanusthedastard Its incredible that you do not realize how immoral you are
@@Romanusthedastardif you cant sin and be follower of Jesus, then sho can be? Bevause we all sin
All in all and I always thought that's what Jesus said when he said take the sliver out of you eye before looking and judging
The actual real God described in the bible is not mickey mouse. He does and will destroy the wicked. And He alone makes Israel holy.
Jesus type of death shows YHVH righteous just virulent unquenchable hatred of sin.
For us its not personal. Our law enforcers fill a position to enforce someone elses law.
For Elohim Adonai it is entirely personal He set the universe in motion and He despises all sin and sinner.
Be sure to do ALL i have commanded you so my soul will not abhor or hate you.
He will not ignore those who hate him but will repay them to their face what they deserve and destroy them.