I dont know, they dont mention filtration specs on their website and I can't find any information on the internet. I'll pin this comment maybe someone who knows will see it. Thanks for watching and your feedback👍😊
Denso is part of the Toyota group and used to be wholly owned by Toyota. During the time that these types of filters were developed for use on Toyota vehicles is when Toyota was designing and building some of their most legendary engines world renowned for their incredible reliability and durability. As part of that deign process, Toyota prioritized oil flow versus micron filtration, thus in most cases Denso filters were designed to ensure maximum oil flow, minimum restriction since Toyota engineers felt that between a reduced oil flow to bearings (even if the oil is well fitered,) or plenty of oil that may have more particles, the better choice by far (based on their own testing) was plenty of oil flow. This is why Denso filters usually have very long filter media, even it's just cellulose based media, the extra length is designed to spread out captured particles along the full length of the media (versus shorter media length which leads to "particle crowding") and thus be able to maintain maximum oil flow characteristics even as the filter loads up with particles towards the end of the oil change interval. Some other Japanese auto manufacturers such as Suzuki also followed this design principle. The smaller the particle capture size, the tighter, more densely formed the filter media needs to be and then reduces total potential oil flow capabilities, especially as a more dense but shorter filter media results in contaminant particles crowded together on the shorter media surface which in turn potentially slows oil flow even further as the media loads up with contaminants. So based on that, most of the Denso filters were designed to maximize particle capture rate at around the 40 micron size at a rate of 98% even though smaller particles as also captured but at a reduced rate correspondingly. Their approach can be summed up as "Maximum oil flow/plentiful media surface/capture area to reduce contaminant crowding/tightest quality control and uniformity.
Denso is a Japanese company. They R&D the parts and have others make to their spec. The parts world as you know is very competitive with price. You can see the over all quality is better even though this filter was made in China. A lot of the Japanese companies have been shying away from china since covid (Supply and other reasons). I work for a Japanese tech company and seeing a lot of the main components shifting to made in Japan, Malaysia or Thailand. Most of the countries depended too much on China including Japan/US and put in a big supply bind when things went bad. The Ford label says "Majority made is USA" ."other" maybe China? At least most made in USA. I hope 100% one day I tend to use Motorcraft oil and filter in my Ford Focus and what ever is on sale, good quality oil and Denso filter for my Nissan. Anyway thank you posting. You have a good channel
Thank You! I wish a lot more of the products sold here would say made in the USA. But as long as other countries put out decent products at a lower cost to consumers, we won't see that happen. Thanks for watching and your comment👍🙏😊 .
I got the Denso filter on Amazon for my wife's infiniti. I got them on sale for 2.39. I was suprised at how tiny it was and was worried but I am glad I found this video. I am suprised it was made that well.
What a nice selection of oil filters! There are so many on the market! It's great to get something similar for a lot less. Thanks for another informative video!
Initially I probably would have picked the motorcraft, but after watching the video both definitely have their plus and minuses. Another great video! 👍👊
My vehicle with a Ford 4.6 uses the Motorcraft fl820s. When I switched to the Denso filter, I noticed it clattered a little on startup. I had five of those filters, and the second wasn't that bad. The third had the same problem, so I don't trust the anti-drainback valve on those. I'm using Wix now, but the Motorcraft was fine, and great for the price. Made in China wasn't a good move for Denso.
The motorcraft looks like it's a basic Purolator, but that still makes it a fine filter. The Denso filter spacing is nice and tight. I'd pick the Denso but always check in every year for the reviews
These oil filters are pretty damn good considering their price point. Not a big fan of both oil filters' filtering media, but you can't beat the price - under $5.00 dollars.
I buy motorcraft for my car, I use an oversize filter with finer media. But, if you're putting exactly 5 quarts of oil from a jug on an oil change, the smaller size filter will give you a higher oil level on your dip stick. So think with your dipstick what oil capacity filter is better in your case.
the Motorcraft looks like your standard red Purolater/Mann+Hummel filter. I'd probably go with the Denso Filter, seems it packs more filtration in a smaller can.
Thank you for another informative review. If I would pick up the Denso and saw it was made in China I would have put it back on the shelf. But I have to admit it's pretty well made considering the price. I still wouldn't buy it though. I don't trust Chunese oil filters on my cars.
I prefer to avoid Made In China as well, although in the case of Denso filters, if you do some searching you can find the made in Indonesia (also Malaysia/Thailand/Taiwan) and made in Japan versions as well. For obvious reasons the made in China ones are usually the cheapest but even so Denso is VERY strict with their quality control, remember they are part of the Toyota group and actually used to be wholly owned by Toyota so they do an excellent job auditing all of the facilities and end products regardless of which country they are manufactured in. I would still purchase an Indonesian or Japan made Denso product over a Chinese one though if the choice was there.
I stopped using Denso filters in my shop when they moved the majority of their production to China. I’m old enough to remember when Denso was nothing but top quality Japanese parts. We use Full Filters almost exclusively for the past few years The ones not made in Japan are still made in their own factories in Thailand and Indonesia. Much better options than Communist China.
While both the filters 'may fit' the same vehicle, they are two different application filters. Use the Wix filter look up to confirm. Obviously the Denso is smaller. What makes you say the Denso adbv is silicone? It's not on the box. Appears black nitrile to me. Denso FTF was made US and used red silicone adbv, when moved to China, website never changed. In this case, of the two I'd choose the Motorcraft made in US. Thanks for the video.
As for the Denso adbv I'm going by what it says on the Rockauto website. I would rather buy US also. Thanks for your feedback. www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6391290&cc=1447768&jsn=455
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks for the reply w/link. RA pretty much what Denso FTF site says. Though it's possible it's silicone, just the skeptic in me. Most run these 5k miles anyway so unlikely it matters much.
@@faxmen09 You're Welcome. This isn't factual but to me, it does feel like it's silicone. One test I do is twist it and if it springs back to its original shape it's probably silicone, the Nitrile rubber ones tend to spring back slower to retain their original shape.
Paper and cellulose is fine for most cars. 5000 (mineral/part synthetic) to 7500 (full synthetic) mile oil changes. Paper and cellulose filters better short term.
I suspect the filtering effeicency is better on the thicker media, motorcraft if I were looking for a low end filter. But as of now, I am still leaning towards the Fram Ultra XG series.
Yes, the Denso appears to be of better quality. The manufacturer takes the extra step of pre-lubricating the O-ring and covering the open end with plastic wrap.
We would be concerned using anything but a Motorcraft filter as it could void the warranty. With the FL 820-S(Fits 7.3L) On the Box the Claim is a "High Efficiency and High Capacity" and the location of the Bypass valve if opening only allowing (we believe it to but could be wrong on the micron size) 20+Micron back into the engine(unfiltered) we have a New F-250 7.3L on order, We plane on dumping the factory oil & Filter @ 500 miles install a new Motorcraft filter and Castrol or Valvolene Full Synthetic (Due to Film Strength and thermal breakdown for piston squirters) and changing again @ 2500 miles then again @ 5000, after that Bc the Filter is so Small we will Change it @ 2500 and again at the Normal 5000 oil change...Would love to See Ford come out with a Dual Filter Oil Pan. Bolt on Upgrade...so 2 filters per 5000 miles...really have enjoyed your channel..
What disappoints me about Denso is that it is made in china. Denso is an oem supplier for Toyota and made in Japan but I have been noticing more of their products are made in china now. Still looks like a quality filter and I think Denso is the maker of the Toyota branded filters as well.
Actually for logistics reasons Denso has production in a variety of countries, not just Japan and China but also Thailand and Malaysia as well. What Denso does right is very stringent quality control and auditing of each production. Some less "demanding" companies from other parts of the world will have Chinese factory produce for example oil filter to their specifications however after an initial test batch the original company may not do random or regular auditing, they don't really care because they make a much better profit from having certain series produced in Chinese factory. Those are the ones to stay away from but not so much a worry with Denso because they keep tight control of that.
There are VOAs all over the internet. I do have a few used ones with filters, here are a couple of links. th-cam.com/video/PIEHjbbxFOw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/6f5tGI7FUGQ/w-d-xo.html
Great info but these are filters so no data on how they filter out debri? Dense appears to be better built and typically more filter surface area equates to better filtering but it’s clear that the two are different materials so without knowing how oil flows through them and filters out debri hard to pick a winner
If you look at the base plates in this comparison, one has six larger holes and one with 8 smaller ones. They both "flow" approx. the same rate. As for filtering debris, all filter manufacturers must meet minimum specs set forth by the ASTM, consumer protection standards, the intended application (s) manufacturer requirements and automotive parts regulatory authorities. So basically, if an oil filter by brand x is on the market, it is safe to assume it has been already tested to meet those requirements and has market approval. What these videos by Whip accomplishes, is exposing the different levels of quality in materials, construction, and subsequent value. From that data one can clearly see which filter will perfom and potentially protect the best.
@@mikebennett703 You realize that decreasing the size of the hole results in increased flow due to the increased pressure across it and increasing hole size reduces pressure reducing flow? Although the six are larger not that much and I bet if you calculate the total area of both Motorcraft will be greater. Besides that I see the 8 smaller holes outflow the 6 larger ones. Also, you state that they must meet minimum specs but this doesn’t mean they can’t exceed it, it is common to add a safety factor making it better so that they pass the testing first time.
@@msk3905 Restricting size increases velocity relative to available pressure but does not increase volume / time relationship. Larger holes will allow a given volume to pass more freely with less pressure requirements from the pump increasing longevity. Engines that are sensitive to oil pressure will be less noisy at start up with holes that are larger because oil can flow through faster than more restrictive passages..
Attention all you Wix, Napa Gold, K&N, Mobil 1, and Amsoil fanboys!!!!!!! This is the market the Orange Box Fram filter is competing with, not your glorified filters!!! If you're going to gripe about Fram being inferior to your favorite filters, (duh) then compare the Fram Ultra to your favorite filter and you'll have a direct competition comparison.
@@christopherwilliams4647 Oh yeah, I forgot about that... i bought 6 of them from Amazon and they were wire backed. I think Amazon in Canada is actually selling Walmart stock
@@christopherwilliams4647 Yes. I had checked into the difference, and it's a "Cheapest Negotiated Contract" thing. Fram didn't make the actual media element, they just assembled their filters using that media. They contract the media out and this is now the lowest priced contractor they are making it with. Kind of sad but it is what it is.
For the price, the Denso filter is actually not bad. I'd have to pick the Denso over the Motorcraft. Honestly, I'm a little disappointed in the Motocraft.
While I like and appreciate these kind of videos, there is no engineering data provided to support or refute anything that is said. We don't know the data around how the oil flows through the Motorcraft and Denso paper media, we don't know how small of particles each one will filter at what pressure etc. And not that you can obtain the data, but OEM manufacturers spend an awful lot of money engineering parts like this to ensure they provide the proper amount of protection without costing the manufacturer or consumer too much money. If you are watching the video, you most likely maintain your vehicle properly and if that is the case, using the OEM filter for your vehicle will protect your engine very well.
correction: if you are watching this video, you most likely maintain your vehicle better than 99% of the typical vehicle owner! ;-) It's so sad. I'm a male who works directly with two other males, one a dad, and neither even changes their own oil. They perform NONE of their own maintenance other than adding fuel.
What you said is true. I dont have the equipment needed to give out the data you speak of. These videos for the most part only reveal what is inside oil filters. I try to obtain as much information as I can about them and put it into the video. I agree, probably most who watch these videos on a regular basis are the ones who do reg. oci's. But I have to say not all oem filters are the best for your engine. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.👍😊
I mentioned this in another comment but i feel it might be useful to state here all filter manufacturers must meet minimum specs set forth by the ASTM, consumer protection standards, the intended application (s) manufacturer requirements, and automotive parts regulatory authorities. So basically, if an oil filter by brand x is on the market, it is safe to assume it has been tested already to meet requirements that are absolutely necessary to have market approval. The data involving actual flow rate through the media, capture ratios, or absolute micron rating, burst pressure, is somewhat redundant. What these videos by Whip accomplishes, is exposing the different levels of quality in materials, construction, and subsequent value. From that data one can clearly see which filter will perfom and potentially protect the best. At the very least, these videos allow a consumer to actually see what they are getting for their money and make the best choices..
Nippon denso is a world wide supplier of oem parts...their standards of quality have been well documented over a wide range of applications.Denso makes the better filter and anyone with a brain and a pair of eyes knows it.
I think the Denso filter is better, but I bought 3 Denso in my life for the same vehicle, and 3 times I got a different filter 1 made in Japan,1 made in Thailand, and 1 in China, all 3 with the same parts number, but all different inside, first one that was made in Japan, it wasn't a conventional design, it was almost like Origami, not even a conventional pleats, so I told my self from now on, this what I am buying, then I bought another one, that one was made in Thailand this time, it had no end cap and the pleats were glue at both ends, and the last one was like this one, so I just wonder am I going to get one like that or something completely different the next time? and I try if possible not to buy made in China a hostile nation to us, so for all those reasons, I will be buying the Motorcraft made in the USA.
Denso is juunk unless it's OEM nippon denso. They sold the name. Motorcraft i believe may be like the old purolators. Again Purolator sold the name. Someone else makes the new stuff. I've used the fl-400 in mowers and my Toyota. I always look inside the filter and check for debris. I don't trust the Chinese filter media. They use recycled garbage to save material. No scruples at all. Companies are getting more brave too.
What's the filtering efficiency on the Denso?
I dont know, they dont mention filtration specs on their website and I can't find any information on the internet. I'll pin this comment maybe someone who knows will see it.
Thanks for watching and your feedback👍😊
Denso is well made
Denso is part of the Toyota group and used to be wholly owned by Toyota. During the time that these types of filters were developed for use on Toyota vehicles is when Toyota was designing and building some of their most legendary engines world renowned for their incredible reliability and durability. As part of that deign process, Toyota prioritized oil flow versus micron filtration, thus in most cases Denso filters were designed to ensure maximum oil flow, minimum restriction since Toyota engineers felt that between a reduced oil flow to bearings (even if the oil is well fitered,) or plenty of oil that may have more particles, the better choice by far (based on their own testing) was plenty of oil flow. This is why Denso filters usually have very long filter media, even it's just cellulose based media, the extra length is designed to spread out captured particles along the full length of the media (versus shorter media length which leads to "particle crowding") and thus be able to maintain maximum oil flow characteristics even as the filter loads up with particles towards the end of the oil change interval. Some other Japanese auto manufacturers such as Suzuki also followed this design principle. The smaller the particle capture size, the tighter, more densely formed the filter media needs to be and then reduces total potential oil flow capabilities, especially as a more dense but shorter filter media results in contaminant particles crowded together on the shorter media surface which in turn potentially slows oil flow even further as the media loads up with contaminants. So based on that, most of the Denso filters were designed to maximize particle capture rate at around the 40 micron size at a rate of 98% even though smaller particles as also captured but at a reduced rate correspondingly. Their approach can be summed up as "Maximum oil flow/plentiful media surface/capture area to reduce contaminant crowding/tightest quality control and uniformity.
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Denso is a Japanese company. They R&D the parts and have others make to their spec. The parts world as you know is very competitive with price. You can see the over all quality is better even though this filter was made in China. A lot of the Japanese companies have been shying away from china since covid (Supply and other reasons). I work for a Japanese tech company and seeing a lot of the main components shifting to made in Japan, Malaysia or Thailand. Most of the countries depended too much on China including Japan/US and put in a big supply bind when things went bad.
The Ford label says "Majority made is USA" ."other" maybe China? At least most made in USA. I hope 100% one day
I tend to use Motorcraft oil and filter in my Ford Focus and what ever is on sale, good quality oil and Denso filter for my Nissan.
Anyway thank you posting. You have a good channel
Thank You!
I wish a lot more of the products sold here would say made in the USA. But as long as other countries put out decent products at a lower cost to consumers, we won't see that happen.
Thanks for watching and your comment👍🙏😊
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I got the Denso filter on Amazon for my wife's infiniti. I got them on sale for 2.39. I was suprised at how tiny it was and was worried but I am glad I found this video. I am suprised it was made that well.
Glad you liked the video😊
What a nice selection of oil filters! There are so many on the market! It's great to get something similar for a lot less. Thanks for another informative video!
Thank You!
Yes, there is a wide variety of filters for every vehicle, and they're made from all over.
Thanks for watching and commenting👍😊
You're Welcome! 🙂
Initially I probably would have picked the motorcraft, but after watching the video both definitely have their plus and minuses. Another great video! 👍👊
Thank You 404!👍😊
On motorcraft filters, if it has an S after the part number it has a silicone anti drain back valve. FYI. good videos.
Yes, I knew that thanks for sharing that information.👍😊
Majority Motorcraft filters for FoMoCo vehicles use a silicone adbv. Topic not specifically for Ford vehicles.
My vehicle with a Ford 4.6 uses the Motorcraft fl820s. When I switched to the Denso filter, I noticed it clattered a little on startup. I had five of those filters, and the second wasn't that bad. The third had the same problem, so I don't trust the anti-drainback valve on those. I'm using Wix now, but the Motorcraft was fine, and great for the price. Made in China wasn't a good move for Denso.
Nice video! 👍 I would pick Denso as the better filter here.. Its similar to a wix filter in alot of ways.
Probably closer to the microgard.
Thanks for the feedback👍😊🙌
@@WhipCityWrencher Agreed! ✌
The denso filter is sealed because the gasket is already pre lubed. So you don't need to rub any oil on it when you spin it on the oil filter housing.
As far as design I would give Denso the edge. More media and coil spring. Good show. See you next week.
Thank You!👍😊
I currently have a Denso filter in my Mazda3. It looks like a better filter than the Motorcraft.
The motorcraft looks like it's a basic Purolator, but that still makes it a fine filter. The Denso filter spacing is nice and tight. I'd pick the Denso but always check in every year for the reviews
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
Hey friend watching now 👍
Thanks, Bo👍
These oil filters are pretty damn good considering their price point. Not a big fan of both oil filters' filtering media, but you can't beat the price - under $5.00 dollars.
Like you said, good price!
Thanks for watching and your feedback👍😊
I buy motorcraft for my car, I use an oversize filter with finer media. But, if you're putting exactly 5 quarts of oil from a jug on an oil change, the smaller size filter will give you a higher oil level on your dip stick. So think with your dipstick what oil capacity filter is better in your case.
the Motorcraft looks like your standard red Purolater/Mann+Hummel filter. I'd probably go with the Denso Filter, seems it packs more filtration in a smaller can.
Hi James,
Yep, the Motorcraft oil filters are Purolator-made.
I think the leafspring in the oil filter gives it more stability what do you think?
Thank you for another informative review. If I would pick up the Denso and saw it was made in China I would have put it back on the shelf. But I have to admit it's pretty well made considering the price. I still wouldn't buy it though. I don't trust Chunese oil filters on my cars.
Thank You!
I'm with you I try to buy US-made whenever possible.
Thanks for your comment👍😊
I prefer to avoid Made In China as well, although in the case of Denso filters, if you do some searching you can find the made in Indonesia (also Malaysia/Thailand/Taiwan) and made in Japan versions as well. For obvious reasons the made in China ones are usually the cheapest but even so Denso is VERY strict with their quality control, remember they are part of the Toyota group and actually used to be wholly owned by Toyota so they do an excellent job auditing all of the facilities and end products regardless of which country they are manufactured in. I would still purchase an Indonesian or Japan made Denso product over a Chinese one though if the choice was there.
I stopped using Denso filters in my shop when they moved the majority of their production to China. I’m old enough to remember when Denso was nothing but top quality Japanese parts. We use Full Filters almost exclusively for the past few years The ones not made in Japan are still made in their own factories in Thailand and Indonesia. Much better options than Communist China.
While both the filters 'may fit' the same vehicle, they are two different application filters. Use the Wix filter look up to confirm. Obviously the Denso is smaller. What makes you say the Denso adbv is silicone? It's not on the box. Appears black nitrile to me. Denso FTF was made US and used red silicone adbv, when moved to China, website never changed. In this case, of the two I'd choose the Motorcraft made in US. Thanks for the video.
As for the Denso adbv I'm going by what it says on the Rockauto website. I would rather buy US also. Thanks for your feedback. www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6391290&cc=1447768&jsn=455
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks for the reply w/link. RA pretty much what Denso FTF site says. Though it's possible it's silicone, just the skeptic in me. Most run these 5k miles anyway so unlikely it matters much.
@@faxmen09 You're Welcome.
This isn't factual but to me, it does feel like it's silicone. One test I do is twist it and if it springs back to its original shape it's probably silicone, the Nitrile rubber ones tend to spring back slower to retain their original shape.
Denso vs MotorCrap .......probably go with the Denso
Paper and cellulose is fine for most cars. 5000 (mineral/part synthetic) to 7500 (full synthetic) mile oil changes. Paper and cellulose filters better short term.
honestly did expect the denso to win.that would be my choice still.thank you again.excellent show.looking 4ward 2 the next 1.thank you.🌚👍
Thank You.
and Thanks for your comment👍😊
I suspect the filtering effeicency is better on the thicker media, motorcraft if I were looking for a low end filter. But as of now, I am still leaning towards the Fram Ultra XG series.
I think the Fram Ultras are very good oil filters.
This part number from the motor craft filter is for the Honda Civic right
It fits the Honda Civic L4 1.8L engine.
Thanks for watching👍
Denso FTW!!!
Yes, the Denso appears to be of better quality. The manufacturer takes the extra step of pre-lubricating the O-ring and covering the open end with plastic wrap.
I would probably pick the Denso because of more filter media.
We would be concerned using anything but a Motorcraft filter as it could void the warranty. With the FL 820-S(Fits 7.3L) On the Box the Claim is a "High Efficiency and High Capacity" and the location of the Bypass valve if opening only allowing (we believe it to but could be wrong on the micron size) 20+Micron back into the engine(unfiltered) we have a New F-250 7.3L on order, We plane on dumping the factory oil & Filter @ 500 miles install a new Motorcraft filter and Castrol or Valvolene Full Synthetic (Due to Film Strength and thermal breakdown for piston squirters) and changing again @ 2500 miles then again @ 5000, after that Bc the Filter is so Small we will Change it @ 2500 and again at the Normal 5000 oil change...Would love to See Ford come out with a Dual Filter Oil Pan. Bolt on Upgrade...so 2 filters per 5000 miles...really have enjoyed your channel..
Thank You👍
Where can I buy a Denso filter for my 2020 Toyota CHR.
I like the Denso a little better.
Thanks for watching and your feedback👍🙏😊
The famous 95 MERC runs Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, 5-W-20; Bosch Premium Oil Filter #3410; FILTERMAG #SS365PR Magnet Kit.
Oil & Filter changed at 5,000 miles.
What disappoints me about Denso is that it is made in china. Denso is an oem supplier for Toyota and made in Japan but I have been noticing more of their products are made in china now. Still looks like a quality filter and I think Denso is the maker of the Toyota branded filters as well.
Seems everything is made in or assembled in China, including COVID virus..
I think you are correct they make Toyota filters as well.
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
Actually for logistics reasons Denso has production in a variety of countries, not just Japan and China but also Thailand and Malaysia as well. What Denso does right is very stringent quality control and auditing of each production. Some less "demanding" companies from other parts of the world will have Chinese factory produce for example oil filter to their specifications however after an initial test batch the original company may not do random or regular auditing, they don't really care because they make a much better profit from having certain series produced in Chinese factory. Those are the ones to stay away from but not so much a worry with Denso because they keep tight control of that.
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Motorcraft good Denso better.
Definitely denso is the winner.👍
Hey Wrencher!
Hey can you tell me where you got your tool that you use to cut open the filters with please?
Thanks!
Sure,
This is the one I use www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Engine-Motor-Oil-Filter-Cutter-Tool,2618.html
You Da Man!
Thanks Buddy!!
Can you do a full synthetic oil comparison...🤙
There are VOAs all over the internet. I do have a few used ones with filters, here are a couple of links. th-cam.com/video/PIEHjbbxFOw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/6f5tGI7FUGQ/w-d-xo.html
Great info but these are filters so no data on how they filter out debri? Dense appears to be better built and typically more filter surface area equates to better filtering but it’s clear that the two are different materials so without knowing how oil flows through them and filters out debri hard to pick a winner
I agree,
I wish the manufacturers would supply more information on their filters.
If you look at the base plates in this comparison, one has six larger holes and one with 8 smaller ones. They both "flow" approx. the same rate. As for filtering debris, all filter manufacturers must meet minimum specs set forth by the ASTM, consumer protection standards, the intended application (s) manufacturer requirements and automotive parts regulatory authorities. So basically, if an oil filter by brand x is on the market, it is safe to assume it has been already tested to meet those requirements and has market approval. What these videos by Whip accomplishes, is exposing the different levels of quality in materials, construction, and subsequent value. From that data one can clearly see which filter will perfom and potentially protect the best.
Denso should be 50% @ 20 microns, not great but they are built incredibly well.
@@mikebennett703 You realize that decreasing the size of the hole results in increased flow due to the increased pressure across it and increasing hole size reduces pressure reducing flow? Although the six are larger not that much and I bet if you calculate the total area of both Motorcraft will be greater. Besides that I see the 8 smaller holes outflow the 6 larger ones. Also, you state that they must meet minimum specs but this doesn’t mean they can’t exceed it, it is common to add a safety factor making it better so that they pass the testing first time.
@@msk3905 Restricting size increases velocity relative to available pressure but does not increase volume / time relationship. Larger holes will allow a given volume to pass more freely with less pressure requirements from the pump increasing longevity. Engines that are sensitive to oil pressure will be less noisy at start up with holes that are larger because oil can flow through faster than more restrictive passages..
Attention all you Wix, Napa Gold, K&N, Mobil 1, and Amsoil fanboys!!!!!!!
This is the market the Orange Box Fram filter is competing with, not your glorified filters!!!
If you're going to gripe about Fram being inferior to your favorite filters, (duh) then compare the Fram Ultra to your favorite filter and you'll have a direct competition comparison.
Fram Ultra Synthetic filter is EXCELLENT
He does a video on a recently revised fram ultra. They are no longer wire backed and the filter media is thinner and more of a paper now.
@@christopherwilliams4647 Oh yeah, I forgot about that... i bought 6 of them from Amazon and they were wire backed. I think Amazon in Canada is actually selling Walmart stock
Royal Purple = BEST 💜
@@christopherwilliams4647 Yes. I had checked into the difference, and it's a "Cheapest Negotiated Contract" thing. Fram didn't make the actual media element, they just assembled their filters using that media. They contract the media out and this is now the lowest priced contractor they are making it with. Kind of sad but it is what it is.
I have a gx470 it seems the toyota/denso filter is the tallest compared to others ive seen. Except this video. I wonder why
Depends on the size.
Denso is part of the Toyota group of companies
Love the video
Thanks, Mechanic Gio👍😊
DENSO is a Better filter for the money..
These filters fit yamaha products as well...
Motorcycles?
@@WhipCityWrencher Yes they cross reference with Yamaha motorcycles snowmobiles and Atvs filters
@@dusty1498 Thanks, good to know.👍
In the future, I'll put out other filter comparison videos in this size.
For the price, the Denso filter is actually not bad. I'd have to pick the Denso over the Motorcraft. Honestly, I'm a little disappointed in the Motocraft.
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While I like and appreciate these kind of videos, there is no engineering data provided to support or refute anything that is said. We don't know the data around how the oil flows through the Motorcraft and Denso paper media, we don't know how small of particles each one will filter at what pressure etc. And not that you can obtain the data, but OEM manufacturers spend an awful lot of money engineering parts like this to ensure they provide the proper amount of protection without costing the manufacturer or consumer too much money. If you are watching the video, you most likely maintain your vehicle properly and if that is the case, using the OEM filter for your vehicle will protect your engine very well.
correction: if you are watching this video, you most likely maintain your vehicle better than 99% of the typical vehicle owner! ;-) It's so sad. I'm a male who works directly with two other males, one a dad, and neither even changes their own oil. They perform NONE of their own maintenance other than adding fuel.
What you said is true.
I dont have the equipment needed to give out the data you speak of.
These videos for the most part only reveal what is inside oil filters. I try to obtain as much information as I can about them and put it into the video.
I agree, probably most who watch these videos on a regular basis are the ones who do reg. oci's.
But I have to say not all oem filters are the best for your engine.
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I mentioned this in another comment but i feel it might be useful to state here all filter manufacturers must meet minimum specs set forth by the ASTM, consumer protection standards, the intended application (s) manufacturer requirements, and automotive parts regulatory authorities. So basically, if an oil filter by brand x is on the market, it is safe to assume it has been tested already to meet requirements that are absolutely necessary to have market approval. The data involving actual flow rate through the media, capture ratios, or absolute micron rating, burst pressure, is somewhat redundant. What these videos by Whip accomplishes, is exposing the different levels of quality in materials, construction, and subsequent value. From that data one can clearly see which filter will perfom and potentially protect the best. At the very least, these videos allow a consumer to actually see what they are getting for their money and make the best choices..
@@mikebennett703 then to celebrate, I say Orange Cans of Death for EVERYONE! ;-)
@@dgunearthed7859 LOL!! Too funny! Thank you for the laugh..🔥🔥👍👍
For being a chinese product, the denso kicked the motorcraft's @$$ in this one.
Yes, it kinda looks that way, I wonder if the Motorcraft has a sore behind now. lol🤣
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Denso 100%
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Ford
It's really a Purolator.😊
Nippon denso is a world wide supplier of oem parts...their standards of quality have been well documented over a wide range of applications.Denso makes the better filter and anyone with a brain and a pair of eyes knows it.
I agree in this video comparison alone the Denso might be the better oil filter.
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With all the fine filters made in US of A, I'll chose that over an off shored made China filter.
I think the Denso filter is better, but I bought 3 Denso in my life for the same vehicle, and 3 times I got a different filter 1 made in Japan,1 made in Thailand, and 1 in China, all 3 with the same parts number, but all different inside, first one that was made in Japan, it wasn't a conventional design, it was almost like Origami, not even a conventional pleats, so I told my self from now on, this what I am buying, then I bought another one, that one was made in Thailand this time, it had no end cap and the pleats were glue at both ends, and the last one was like this one, so I just wonder am I going to get one like that or something completely different the next time? and I try if possible not to buy made in China a hostile nation to us, so for all those reasons, I will be buying the Motorcraft made in the USA.
Hi Bud,
All good reasons to buy U.S.-made.
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Denso is juunk unless it's OEM nippon denso. They sold the name. Motorcraft i believe may be like the old purolators. Again Purolator sold the name. Someone else makes the new stuff. I've used the fl-400 in mowers and my Toyota. I always look inside the filter and check for debris. I don't trust the Chinese filter media. They use recycled garbage to save material. No scruples at all. Companies are getting more brave too.
Denso…not bad for a cheap filter
Reciting the date code is useless info if nobody knows what it means.
Ah, but some people do know what it means. Check this out. bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/oil-filter-date-decoding-thread.351643/
Denso all day long... I would Trust Japanese made product more than American Ford
The Denso is made in China