Billy Beheler focus is crap. Not as crapy as the fiesta. Focus had a horrible dct transmission. Next time rent a fusion there still bland. But slightly better if not old like alot of ford cars.
So much wrong with this video. Most cars with sport mode start off in normal for one main reason: engine temperature. Cars are not meant to be revved and raced when cold. Some manufactures (Subaru) wont even let you go into sport mode until the engine is warmed up. Also, she asked why there is a normal mode? Seriously? It saves on gas and drives much smoother. You don't always want to be racing.
I like it better when the reviewer knows more about the cars... I don't car about the steering wheel.. what I want to see was a 0-100mph blast but got told stuff I don't car about :(
Wow that interior looks so dated. I also feel this car needs around 365hp instead. I almost smell a flop coming here. I feel they just phoned this one in since they dumped all of their ST cars. Time to go back to the drawing board Ford.
Acc0rd79 can it even be a flop? R&D is so minimal and being a parts bin car I feel like even if it’s not groundbreaking in any way it’ll still be a huge profit maker for Ford.
Rice ETR it’d be a bummer even with 550 horsepower. It doesn’t drive sporty enough and the interior is stuck a decade in the past. Looks like a great “road trip car” for the family though.
Nick Buccini it’s called grade shifting because while your going down hill with a load or with out, the transmission will automatically start down shifting to slow you down and control your speed. Instead of letting you free wheel down the road.
Then buy your Camry or Rav4. They are the number one selling brand in the country and have the Ranger and Bronco almost here and a new Escape and Explorer in 2020.
I needed a family hauler, I needed to fit a large dog, 2 kids, a wife, & all their gear, it needed to be 'domestic', it needed to be AWD due to inclimate weather where I live, and I wanted some sport built in with a decent amount of power. Guess what I ordered! Yep! An ST. For the amount of tech built in, I couldn't beat the price out the door. Are there faster alternatives? ABSOLUTELY! For what I needed for MY family, this worked out to be the best. It's NOT for everyone, I get that! The Edge ST IS for me right now. I agree, the interior needs a bit of WOW added to it, but it's not the worst interior out there. As with other reviews out there, there was ZERO data to go with HER thoughts on the vehicle. DATA tells a lot IMO. This was a Ford event so they have rules about what can be shared. I look forward to some actual data to go with the thoughts. IMO, TFL did a better job reviewing because they got the Engineer to discuss what was changed from the Sport to this and the standard Edge to the ST.
I think the main point that she had was that you're looking in the upper tier of 35-40 grand for a midsize SUV. For my money I would consider getting a full size truck regardless of make. Even a 2018 Ford F-150 XL with 4wd starts in the neighborhood of 35K with a supercrew cab. So with that, I feel that the ST is just going to be Fords apology to all the recent grad's and the newly promoted because gone are the days of going out and getting a cheap small car, now you have to get a truck/suv that's on average 3-15,000 more than a small car that you actually needed.
I am getting one in Feb. I have owned many BMW's, Porsches, Aston Martin, but now my radical car days are over and I just need a roomy ride for my pup and golf clubs with a little performance now and then. I have no illusions that it will drive like a Porche Cayenne Turbo S (which I had a few years back), but I no longer want to spend that kind of money. We'll see how it goes
"Why would you ever want it not in sport mode?" Because the majority of these will be bought by enthusiast who have a spouse or family member who just don't get it, and are going to want something that gets from point A to B as normally as possible.
4:45 are you serious? u dont know why its "revving to the moon" ? thats why you need a sport mode and a normal mode because you dont want to be down shifting off the rev limiter all the time. usually only at the track or going down a mountain road.
I wouldn't want it in sport mode all the time because the gas mileage is better without it. I wouldn't buy it for constant sportiness, I'd buy it for the extra power of the 2.7L to be there when I want it. But most of the time, I'd just drive it like normal. And for that, I'd still want decent gas mileage.
Wow! Great job #Edmunds! The Edge ST doesn't have the Ford/GM 10-speed bc it's engine is transversely mounted! Meaning it is a front wheel drive base AWD system. The 10-speed was designed for longitudinally mounted engines. And yes, I understand that the 10-speed bolts to the 2.7l in the F-150 but thats bc the engine is longitudinal in the truck. Please don't give car advise to people if you don't know what your talking about.
Hi Jay. I just commented on main thread. Your comment speaks directly to my point, and my point is the people like yourself who comment, know much more than the people in the videos, as well as the entire channel. My greatest learnings here were from people like you.
LET THE REAL ST REST IN PEACE, CALL THIS THING WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT NO ST. REAL ST's ARE THE FOCUS ST AND FIESTA ST. YES PEOPLE WANT PERFORMANCE AND CONVENIENCE, CALL IT SPORT OR WHATEVER, BUT NOT ST.
Focus ST & Feista are just stock Ecoboosts same motor in a fusion or ecosport but with tuned suspensions just like this edge st so yea its a real ST it has a ecoboost & tuned suspension
I love watching car reviews about ppl the dony know cars. 1st of all, the 10 spd is a rear drive platform oriented transmission, and your complaining that the 8 spd is searching for gears??? Ok there
Dodge Durango rt which also beat the Ford Explorer sport with the 3.5 eco boost the Ford Flex with the 3.5 eco boost to me the edge was just was a way for ford to get people to not pay attention to them killing all the cars off i would pick something different if I’m spending 43,000 on a suv
Devin Bender haha your lying right? The Dodge Durango rt is faster than the Explorer sport that does 0 60 in 5.9 seconds so it shouldn’t be hard for it to take damn something with less power and the same amount of weight sorry but fords twin turbo tech is behind and lacks power
Bradley R YOUR FORGETTING WEIGHT! the Durango weighs 1500lbs more with a worse transmission. The edge sport was faster than the Durango rt! Let alone this ST
The 2019 Edge has one less engine option that the 2018 as they've done away with the 3.5 V6. Also the 10-speed from the Raptor cant be used because it was designed for RWD/4WD applications whereas the 8-Speed is for FWD/AWD applications.
The reviewer basically answered the main topic question , is the Edge ST, a real ST? I had a Fiesta ST; the HANDLING and thrill you would experience from that car was like no other, especially for the price! The ST badge really meant something special for the Fiesta and Focus. It covered the performance dynamics of balanced handling and power; Traits in which we don’t see in the Edge. This Edge ST is just a rebadged Edge Sport... With that being said, I would probably still consider purchasing this vehicle, but I know it is not a true ST.
they dropped the sport name and this car isn't just a sport, it's got a few things upgraded including more horsepower. It's a good idea for ford to get rid of the sport badge and replace it with this. It's very much an ST. The handling of the fiesta hands down is amazing but consider how small that car is.
StevenSVT Edge ST has 20 extra horsepower bringing it up to 335. Also sportier tuned suspension, better brakes and other performance enhancements. I’m sure the next generation 2021 Ford Edge ST will be even better and bigger difference from the 2015 - 2018 Ford Edge Sport. I’m waiting to see the enhancements they make for the 2020 Ford Explorer ST. It’s a shame the rest of the world (Europe) are the only ones getting the all new Fiesta ST and Focus ST. According to Motor Trend they’re awesome little hot hatches.
Isn’t it a crossover? Normal driving for better economy? I had a 15 edge sport and it was a blast to drive. It could scoot too. The ST will be better but they need to update the interior dash... digital please!!!
TCR 223 This is just a mid-cycle refresh for the Ford Edge for 2019. I’m sure improved interior material fit and finish and a digital instrument panel will come for the 3rd generation 2021 Ford Edge redesign. Look at the 2020 Ford Explorer redesign. Hopefully it will look something like that.
This reviewer does not have enough of a working knowledge of how cars work to be reviewing them. Most could care less how something is edited, but as someone who has sold cars, I would say that a reviewer's number one job is educating without partiality. This reviewer doesn't have the knowledge that this vehicle has a transverse FWD setup like most modern cars, and thus uses a transaxle. This is different than a longitudinal RWD setup as in the F-150 and most other pickups. 8 speeds are pretty impressive for a transaxle as they typically can't be more than a foot long. The reason a vehicle downshifts on grades is purposeful to reduce brake wear while reducing speed of descent, and not even remotely unique to the Edge. Now does someone have to know how large the typical transaxle is? No, however they should have enough experience to give factual coverage of what they are reviewing and not just holistically feeling out it's aura in their own subjective opinion. This is the fault of the supervising editor for not reviewing the video before publishing. I don't want this to be some giant negative storm, so I'll offer up some suggestions as best as I can without being an automotive journalist myself. First of all, drive more vehicles! A huge component of reviewing any product is comparative analysis. If you haven't experienced many different cars from different companies and from different eras, it will be difficult to have a contextual baseline. Also, ask anyone in the know more questions when you have the opportunity. They may know more than they were primed by the marketing department to go over in the presentation. This is especially true of lower level (direct to the) product engineers, as they are the nitty gritty guys and gals. Engineer leads tend to have less involvement in the problem solving, and are more supervisory and broad overview in their role. It's journalism: Seek experience, know how to find the best information, know how to communicate that information to John Q. Public. I'm no highly experienced reviewer, but to sell the modern vehicle, you have to be in the same position a lot of the time. Some folks are just steamrolling balls of charisma. Not much to do about that aspect, but our own due diligence.
MSTRCHIEF143 I’m pretty sure Elana has an insane amount of car knowledge, she worked as an editor for hot rod magazine for some years, then did road kill magazine, and also has been doing car reviews.
@@birdsnestfishing698 I know people who have worked at restaurants for a long time that still don't know how to cook. I know some salesman who have been selling cars for over 15 years who can barely tell you the difference between a wheel and a tire. You can be exposed to a related industry and not have to retain practical knowledge to get by, because it isn't necessarily required. When the job is literally communicating your knowledge of the topic, it's a little more difficult. There aren't too many successful mechanics that don't know what a torque wrench is. There seem to be a lot of tire techs that don't, though.
I only watched the first 1 min 30 seconds, I switched off after she called the car a crossover 3 times when it's actually an "SUV"... The Focus Active is Ford's crossover... That was when I realised she didn't know what she was talking about
I don't feel that the Edge ST is a suitable replacement for the Focus ST, especially when one considers that the Edge ST sells for more than the Focus RS. If all Ford intended was to offer a sporty appearance package for the Edge, then why not badge this as an "ST-Line," as Ford does in Europe?
Why would you compare this to a Focus or Fiesta? Both of those vehicles started out agile and light and became more agile with the ST treatment as did the Edge ST over the standard Edge. This vehicle should be compared to vehicles in its class/price range and the lesser non ST Edge.
4gasem Ford has discontinued sales of cars here in North America (save for the Mustang), which is why Ford decided to make an ST variant of the Edge crossover. The point that I made was that the Edge ST does not compare well to the other ST-badged cars that Ford sold in North America, namely the Fiesta ST and the Focus ST.
The whole time I was watching this video I was thinking escape. I thought- dang- that thing looks a lot like the edge. She kept calling it a big suv and I thought- why does she keep saying that! The escape isn’t that big! I was 3/4 thru the video before I realized my error. lol
tikijojo Acura RDX Aspec for sure. Or wait for RDX Type S version 😱😍😁 . I did the Volvo XC60 Rdesign T6 Polestar. Very happy with it. Amazing luxury interior.
@@itsmini6175 yeah cause the RS dosent shit all over the R. Have fun with your overpriced gti. -Has a faster (20k cheaper) car then a golf r owner, owner.
Haven't driven the Edge ST but my wife and I seriously considered the 2018 Edge Sport earlier this year. Not too much different except a significant price bump, a slightly hotter engine, and an eight speed transmission (that may or may not be an improvement.) Oh, yeah, the ST badge(s) Lots of them. I liked it. My wife, who doesn't suffer from testosterone poisoning as I do, not so much. Apart from the straight line performance of the V6 turbo (my thing, not hers), we both liked the size of the Edge. It's significantly shorter than most midsize crossovers making it easier to handle in suburban jungle traffic and shopping mall parking lots, a primary mission among this class of crossovers. The interior was OK but nothing to write home about. My wife complained about the steep rake of the windshield that made her feel like she was steering from the stern of an outboard. Likewise, she found the overall visibility to be compromised, especially on the front edges of the Edge. It was a small thing but for me the tiny tach seemingly added as an afterthought to the left edge of the dash was especially annoying in a "performance" vehicle. The biggest fail for us, though, was the absence of third row seating. We're a small family (my spouse, a teenage daughter, and a big dog) so we don't need a third row about 90% of the time. But when we chauffeur my daughter and three or four of her friends, it's a godsend. And when we go out with another another couple or small family it's really convenient to take a single vehicle. Even when it's just my daughter and a girlfriend it's nice to put them as far away from the front row as possible. (For them as well as us.) So what to do? We wanted a smaller midsize crossover with a usable third row. Fortunately, we found a more or less perfect compromise. The Kia Sorento SX-L is exactly the same length as the Edge. It has a third row of seats that, while snug, is adequate for a couple of teenagers or average size adults for local trips. Its overall cargo capacity behind the first and second rows is virtually identical to the Edge. Overall passenger room is likewise virtually identical in the first two rows. Better interior, better gadgets, and a far better bumper-to-bumper and poertrain warranty at a price several thousand dollars below the MSRP of the Edge. It's my wife's daily driver so my whining about the superior performance of the Edge's V6 Turbo didn't turn the tide and ultimately I had to agree the Sorento was a better choice for us. Whether we would have made the same decision for the 2019 models, I can't say. But Ford has bumped the MSRP of the ST about $5000 compared to a fully loaded 2018 Sport. And from what I've seen, the claims about the improvements that merit the ST badge strike me as more marketing hype than substantive arguments. For $50,000 I just don't see the value compared to some of the competition, especially the Kia Sorento. P.S. Good review. Ignore the haters.
This thing looks identical to the 18’ Edge sport in everything but the new transmission. My local ford dealer was marking down some leftover 16’ model year Edge Sports for $26k brand new about a year ago. I was almost convinced to buy one but ended up not taking the chance.
Paul Corrreau: The Ascent hadn't been released when we were shopping earlier this year and it appears from early reviews to be a good vehicle, especially for Subar-ites. But I don't think it would have changed our minds compared to the Sorento. First, although the Ascent makes more efficient use of its interior space than the CX-9, it's still about seven inches longer than the Sorento (and the Edge). As I noted above, we don't need a third row of seats most of the time and the Sorento combines a usable third row with a more compact size than other midsize crossovers. Second, the only engine available is Subaru's 2.5L turbo 4 and I prefer a V6 for vehicles like this. Third, although I'm not a fanatic about it, I just don't like CVT transmissions and that's the only option for the Ascent. I wouldn't fault anyone, especially Subaru fans, who purchases an Ascent and I've already seen a few on the road in the last couple of months, but it just wasn't for us.
Tyler Beeson: When we were shopping earlier this year before the Edge ST was available Ford dealers were offering significant discounts were offering significant discounts on 2018 Edge Sport (though not as much as you report for leftover 2016 models a year ago). Now, according to AutoTrader there are no 2018 Edge Sports available within any distance of my location. (That's not necessarily reliable, of course.) But there are a number of 2018 "Titanium" models available for around $35K. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2019 Edge ST discounted to at least $45K if examples sit on lots (as I suspect they will) for a couple of months.
@@stephenhendricks103 I agree about the V6 and the transmission, not a CVT fan as most people aren't as well. I do have a Santa Fe sport with the 2.0L turbo, it's plenty peppy but I preferred the V6 I had in my last vehicle. Sorry I hadn't understood you had already purchased the Sorento. My neighbour has one and loves it.
Your complaining about pushing a button for sport mode? It pushing a button, its not like going through a bunch of menus to engage sport mode, its a button. Calling that a inconvenience has to be the most ridiculous criticism i have ever. heard
NO IT'S NOT! Better MPG with it off which means EPA happy! My father had multiple M cars. Everyone had a button or sequence you had to do before going in to M mode which is basically sport mode.
717 flyer Most people don’t understand that. The 8 speed is still a great transmission. I wish I had gotten a new 2019 Ford Edge Titanium or ST instead of a pre-owned 2015 Edge Titanium with the old 6 speed transmission and outdated Sync 2 infotainment system. Sync 3 is so much better with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. I don’t feel like spending $1,500 and ripping apart the dashboard to upgrade to Sync 3 though.
I appreciate the in-depth interior review and agree with pretty much all of it. Seeing as this is a performance vehicle, I would have liked to see some performance testing. I'm guessing Edmunds doesn't want the liability?
At least she seems to know what shes talking about unlike some other female car reviewers Ive watched. It was obvious they were nothing more than pretty faces doing a car review
Real dumb questions for someone who should be an automotive enthusiast. Why did Ford use the 8 speed, when they have an excellent 10 speed? Because the Ford / GM 10 speed is RWD based and the 8 / 9 speed is FWD based. Guess which the Edge is? Why don't they not have a sport mode and always keep the Edge in sport mode? Because the EPA numbers would suck and you only drive it that way 5% of the time anyway.
Ford needs to keep the Focus ST if they want to stay in the performance small-car game. I don't know why they're going to stop selling them. I see Fusions and Focuses EVERYWHERE around where I live. Not to mention that this this when well equipped nearly hits $50k. A well equipped Focus ST brand new doesn't hit 30, and you can get them for nearly 20 new if you push for a better deal! I've got a '14 Fiesta ST, and my next car will not be a Ford. This move no "no cars" is going to make me move into an Audi S3 or a Subaru WRX as choice for my next car.
They conceded that market to the Japanese, Koreans and Germans. After 40+ years I guess they finally feel they can't beat the Japanese for quality smaller cars, the Koreans for bargain small cars and Germans for premium small cars. So if your in the market say 2020, you'll be looking at Subaru WRX, Civic Si, Accent N or Golf GTI.
It's also going to backfire when gas prices return to the $5 mark. But then we'll start some global war over control of Middle Eastern or South American oil.
I'm mixed about putting unique badges like this on vehicles like this. I have a '17 Focus ST which is a blast to drive. The ST spec was designed specifically for this vehicle along with the Fiesta, and that's makes them unique. However, Ford believes that somehow they can capture what made the ST vehicles unique and reproduce it in the Edge, which is a totally different vehicle with its own set of dynamics. I don't completely understand it because it can't possibly be anything like the cars. Normally, I would complain about what I call Badge Thinning, which is spreading a unique performance package to multiple vehicles. But Ford will no longer manufacturer cars (Mustang withheld) for the States, so the ST badge on the Edge will be the only vehicle in Ford's lineup with that distinction. I would argue that the more vehicles that have a unique performance upgrade built in, the less significant those vehicles will be. A good example is Dodge. When the Challenger SRT Hellcat first came out, it was really different. Really special. Then Dodge decided to put that package in the Charger. And the Grand Cherokee. Suddenly, the Challenger version wasn't so special anymore. Then there's the Hellcat Redeye. And the insane Demon. Your original Hellcat had now become a commodity, just like your neighbor's Camry. You could probably make a case for the SRT badge too. You can get that in nearly every Dodge. "Hey, check out my new Charger SRT! Isn't it bitchin?" Yep, just like the thousands of other Dodge SRT vehicles I see driving everyday. Yay. 😴 Like the quote from the movie The Incredibles: "When everyone is super, no one will be."
You're right when you said that the interior of the car is not at the same level of other "competitors" such as de Macan, Q3, Levante. The thing is that those are premium models and this Edge ST is not ta that level. I saw a video on TFL car YT channel and they said that this SUV doesn't have a direct competitor, it has its "own" position of the market...
Why are car manufacturers getting rid of transmission shift levers and going to a daily instead? I drove a Chrysler 200 with one as a rental car and it was VERY confusing l, I put it into the wrong gear all of the time! Besides my first car was a manual transmission so I'm used to placing my right hand on the shift lever, even with automatics.
The comments about the Sport mode? Why have it? Sport mode holds in gears longer for both accelerating and decelerating for a better response and feel. The reason you can turn it off is for fuel economy. Remember that the government has standards, and Ford wants the best ratings possible. I can't believe that comment, or some others. Won't be watching this reviewer again.
It doesn't default into sport mode-most likely because they were still trying to get higher EPA numbers. Sport mode makes the throttle more responsive and keeps the transmission in a lower gear which would reduce fuel economy.
S is for select shift and it shifts to lower gear when going down hill so you don't have ride the brakes all the way down, like you'd do in a manual doing the same thing to keep from just accelerating as you coast down. Also, the reason for all of those climate controls is probably because the passenger can control their own AC/heat.
Dont understand why she only compared it to Luxury versions. Its still a ford, not a Lincoln. Also id rather her test what shes saying not just giving opinion about cornering but not really test it in a corner? And as someone who drives for a living, I love how simple and uncrowded the interior feels. Just very open. I love this truck. I got the 14 sport. I wouldnt trade it for anything else in the class.
Modler Jeancharles because no regular brands have a XUV anything close. This thing has 380lbft the next closest is the Jeep Cherokee with 285. So they have to test against luxury xuvs.
Devin Bender makes sense in that case but to compare it to the Alfa in term of luxury is kind of unfair to a car that is meant to be a luxury car. I dont think of ford when thinking of Luxury. To me she should have reviwed it as an SUV with a little kick when you need it. Again as a 14 edge sport owner that has 305 HP I can imagine this has alot more kick to it with over 25 more HP.
Huh, Ford is making an "ST" version of the Edge! The same vehicle they told me 7 years ago that there was "no market for" when I asked them to put a Super Snake engine in the Edge Sport to make it an ACTUAL sport!
One thing that people are not realizing and it could be the age of the people watching this is the 335 /380ft-lbs is just stock from Ford. Anyone that is into Ford's and performance knows at least 10 companies that will tune it for 93 octane and those numbers will go to up or over 365 hp and well over 400 ft-lbs torque and that much power in this will be crazy fun and you have room to take the kids and dog on trips... yea the interior needs help but once I am standing on the go pedal I won't care that much about the interior...LOL Our local dealer is claiming if you don't get the big wheels/brake package it will sell for 43K which means if they don't sell will drop to 40k or 39K.. so now that is not bad for all this... yes you can get another brand with more power, better interior but not for this price. I want this for my daily driver instead of my 2014 2.0 escape, and when I need more of a thrill I have other toys in the garage that will scare me...LOL
SS S Don’t forger new Honda Passport, Chevrolet Blazer, Kia Sorento, Toyota Highlander, Subaru Outback, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and more. Everyone is putting out midsize crossovers now. Nissan started the segment with the 2003 Murano.
Xc60 xc90 Cx9 cx5 Q6 q7 q5 Qx30, GLA (not necessarily SUV'S but close enough And both of these are 😍) Im not even an SUV fan but i can admit.. those make my clitoris throb
Oh and controversial cause lexus you know But i think the rx350 is the single hand best looking SUV on the road from any and all manufacturers. Once i got used to the grill on them (used to love it on the sedans hated it on the SUV'S). The lines and shapes are simply outstanding And i fucking hate lexi's
OMG someone should explain to her the difference between a FWD car and RWD then She would understand WHY THEY DIDN'T PUT THE 10 SPEED OF THE RAPTOR IN THE EDGE . FACEPALM
It’s a nice looking SUV from the outside always loved the way the Edge looked the inside well I like the simplistic dash it’s not too cluttered same with the radio, etc. Ford should of put the new 10 speed in the Edge she’s right about that as far as the sport mode goes I guess I’m old I don’t see the point of it. You buy a performance SUV/car the ride should be on the firm side always. 28K isn’t a bad deal bit for the money I’d would buy a Subaru XT used of course seeing they don’t make that model anymore. The Mazda CX-5 would be high on my list as well, Mazda makes all their car, etc fun to drive. Lay off the comments on her she does a good job on these reviews. And she’s cute!
richard button It’s much better than the first generation Ford Edge from 2007 - 2014. The 1st generation had atrocious interior quality with even cheaper harder plastics. This is a big step up from then. Hopefully the 2021 redesign of the Ford Edge will be like the new Ford Explorer and Escape with better interior quality materials. The Ford Fusion is even worse.
Says it has an "updated transmission". If you know anything about Ford Focus and Fiesta, the Powershift tranmissions all failed, multiple times, became extremely unsafe to drive, and in Australia, you had to sign a non-disclosure statement when you accepted their settlement to you. Nobody was allowed to discus just how pervasive or extensive the failures of that transmission were. At least in the US, owners can talk about how unsafe it made these cars.
Blake Swan Europe still gets new ST models like the Fiesta ST and Focus ST. Automotive journalists say they’re fun to drive excellent little hot hatches too. It’s a shame Americans are so crossover hypnotized that we can’t even get regular new Fiesta and Focus models now. I wanted to buy a 2019 Ford Focus last year. I guess I’ll need to look at a Volkswagen Jetta or Golf next.
I've driven many new Edges many times, really not a fan. It's probably not too bad to drive once it's got a little bit of power, but you get sick of trying to see past the gigantic A pillars real fast. Plus, the steering is terrible, the turning radius is terrible. Performance is okay with the 3.5 V6 but it's far too heavy for the 2.0L EcoBoost which is what most of them have. It's not tediously slow compared to most cars, but it absolutely is compared to most of the other vehicles that Ford are currently making. The 2.0L is great in the Escape, MKC, and Focus ST, but it's just too small for the Edge.
MaxTheKanuck the 2.0l ecoboost has more power and torque than most SUVs in this segment! The closest is the Jeep Cherokee 3.2v6 Yea it has 10 more hp but the edge has 30 more torque!!! Yea the edge feels slow because it’s a soccer mom crossover. But it’s still faster than the competition. Let alone with the 2.7! They killed off the 3.5 because the 2.0 is just that much better!
MaxTheKanuck *they killed it in the edge 2018 is the last year. The flex is dead next year and the last year for the explorer is next year before it goes rwd. The 3.5 is dead to ford. It’s old and weak.
"...It feels like it would push back." She doesn't push the vehicle, but makes judgement about what what it "might" handle like when pushed? Too bad. The Edge runs circles around an Audi or BMW X5, that's a fact not a reach.
Americans should stop complaining about this new Edge ST. We don’t even get it in Europe (emissions, blah blah blah). We only get the ST-line Edge, which has a 2.0 liter diesel with 238hp. But we do get the all-new Fiesta ST which you should look at some reviews, and get jealous.
People are buying cars, they just are forcing the market towards SUV's. YTD (US) Fiesta 36,518. Focus 100,267. Fusion 124,964. Taurus 21,718. Mustang 61,619. MKZ 14,921. Continental 6,334.
They need to step up their interiors. So bland.
Hamza Waseem hopefully the Lincoln design language trickles down in some way to the Ford models. Lol
Hamza Waseem i agreee
A Lincoln version would be decked out with wood trim.
Hamza Waseem I agree. But this is a platform from 2012. There will be a new edge in 2021 ish I believe
Billy Beheler focus is crap. Not as crapy as the fiesta. Focus had a horrible dct transmission. Next time rent a fusion there still bland. But slightly better if not old like alot of ford cars.
So much wrong with this video. Most cars with sport mode start off in normal for one main reason: engine temperature. Cars are not meant to be revved and raced when cold. Some manufactures (Subaru) wont even let you go into sport mode until the engine is warmed up. Also, she asked why there is a normal mode? Seriously? It saves on gas and drives much smoother. You don't always want to be racing.
I like it better when the reviewer knows more about the cars... I don't car about the steering wheel.. what I want to see was a 0-100mph blast but got told stuff I don't car about :(
yep, she is definitely out of touch with some things
Wow that interior looks so dated. I also feel this car needs around 365hp instead. I almost smell a flop coming here. I feel they just phoned this one in since they dumped all of their ST cars. Time to go back to the drawing board Ford.
Acc0rd79 can it even be a flop? R&D is so minimal and being a parts bin car I feel like even if it’s not groundbreaking in any way it’ll still be a huge profit maker for Ford.
Remember HP isn't everything. It's going to have 380tq witch is a lot. And that toque is at the low end where you would want it.
Tune only will add 100 horsepower or close to it , did on the edge sport and fusion sport , who cares what it has from the factory
380lbft is almost 100lbft more than every thing in its class. Name a suv with more for 45k
Rice ETR it’d be a bummer even with 550 horsepower. It doesn’t drive sporty enough and the interior is stuck a decade in the past. Looks like a great “road trip car” for the family though.
FYI , that hole dropping gears thing while going down hill..... that’s call grade shifting! , and it’s a good thing. These do tow up to 3500 pounds.
you also use it at the track hence the "sport mode" button
bigwillchill 😂👌
Who the hell calls it grade shifting. Its called engine breaking.
Nick Buccini it’s called grade shifting because while your going down hill with a load or with out, the transmission will automatically start down shifting to slow you down and control your speed. Instead of letting you free wheel down the road.
that's why its called engine breaking...
Temp controls are on both sides because that's the point of dual zone climate control. Passenger can choose their Temp.
Because he is the driver.
Yeah. This lady did little more than improvise a script
Michael Chien if there is no one in the passenger seat, the driver is in full control
Almost 50k? From the look of that interior you should pay no more than 30k. Ford has lost it's way lately
Then buy your Camry or Rav4. They are the number one selling brand in the country and have the Ranger and Bronco almost here and a new Escape and Explorer in 2020.
Judd511 Ford is the best selling brand in America they haven't lost their way
I needed a family hauler, I needed to fit a large dog, 2 kids, a wife, & all their gear, it needed to be 'domestic', it needed to be AWD due to inclimate weather where I live, and I wanted some sport built in with a decent amount of power. Guess what I ordered! Yep! An ST. For the amount of tech built in, I couldn't beat the price out the door. Are there faster alternatives? ABSOLUTELY! For what I needed for MY family, this worked out to be the best. It's NOT for everyone, I get that! The Edge ST IS for me right now. I agree, the interior needs a bit of WOW added to it, but it's not the worst interior out there. As with other reviews out there, there was ZERO data to go with HER thoughts on the vehicle. DATA tells a lot IMO. This was a Ford event so they have rules about what can be shared. I look forward to some actual data to go with the thoughts. IMO, TFL did a better job reviewing because they got the Engineer to discuss what was changed from the Sport to this and the standard Edge to the ST.
What did you pay for it?
I think the main point that she had was that you're looking in the upper tier of 35-40 grand for a midsize SUV. For my money I would consider getting a full size truck regardless of make. Even a 2018 Ford F-150 XL with 4wd starts in the neighborhood of 35K with a supercrew cab. So with that, I feel that the ST is just going to be Fords apology to all the recent grad's and the newly promoted because gone are the days of going out and getting a cheap small car, now you have to get a truck/suv that's on average 3-15,000 more than a small car that you actually needed.
Durango srt
I am getting one in Feb. I have owned many BMW's, Porsches, Aston Martin, but now my radical car days are over and I just need a roomy ride for my pup and golf clubs with a little performance now and then. I have no illusions that it will drive like a Porche Cayenne Turbo S (which I had a few years back), but I no longer want to spend that kind of money. We'll see how it goes
Durango RT would’ve been a better choice for that price
"Why would you ever want it not in sport mode?"
Because the majority of these will be bought by enthusiast who have a spouse or family member who just don't get it, and are going to want something that gets from point A to B as normally as possible.
Interior looks so 2014
Jalal Assir you only a refresh. Wait couple years for ALL NEW FORD EDGE redesign.
Jalal Assir Try 2006
Jalal Assir new Ford Edge 2021 I believe
Most likely a hybrid
Looks rather 2009. Roughly a decade ago.
Jeff 70 More like wait 4 years, the Edge changes every 4 years.(2007, 2011, 2015, 2019, so next redesign would most likely be 2023)
4:45 are you serious? u dont know why its "revving to the moon" ? thats why you need a sport mode and a normal mode because you dont want to be down shifting off the rev limiter all the time. usually only at the track or going down a mountain road.
Recently bought one, love it! Have purposely left out of sport mode for 3 weeks and have got 29mpg...that is why you want the option!
I wouldn't want it in sport mode all the time because the gas mileage is better without it. I wouldn't buy it for constant sportiness, I'd buy it for the extra power of the 2.7L to be there when I want it. But most of the time, I'd just drive it like normal. And for that, I'd still want decent gas mileage.
Wow! Great job #Edmunds! The Edge ST doesn't have the Ford/GM 10-speed bc it's engine is transversely mounted! Meaning it is a front wheel drive base AWD system. The 10-speed was designed for longitudinally mounted engines. And yes, I understand that the 10-speed bolts to the 2.7l in the F-150 but thats bc the engine is longitudinal in the truck. Please don't give car advise to people if you don't know what your talking about.
I love when people truly know what they are talking about and shut others up... thumbs up Jay G
just admit it y'all can't handle the power of the Ford motor
OOFF!🤣
+Ian Heard you need to test drive one and you'll fall in love with
Hi Jay. I just commented on main thread. Your comment speaks directly to my point, and my point is the people like yourself who comment, know much more than the people in the videos, as well as the entire channel. My greatest learnings here were from people like you.
LET THE REAL ST REST IN PEACE, CALL THIS THING WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT NO ST. REAL ST's ARE THE FOCUS ST AND FIESTA ST. YES PEOPLE WANT PERFORMANCE AND CONVENIENCE, CALL IT SPORT OR WHATEVER, BUT NOT ST.
ALL CAPS DOESNT GET YOUR POINT ACROSS ANY BETTER< JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE YELLING
Lol i work with caps on and didnt knew i had typed all in caps, when i realized it was already too much to delete and start again in lower case
THAT CDK LIFE LUL
Focus ST & Feista are just stock Ecoboosts same motor in a fusion or ecosport but with tuned suspensions just like this edge st so yea its a real ST it has a ecoboost & tuned suspension
I love watching car reviews about ppl the dony know cars. 1st of all, the 10 spd is a rear drive platform oriented transmission, and your complaining that the 8 spd is searching for gears??? Ok there
lol thought the same thing
So the Edge when from "Rental Car" to "Faster Rental Car".
mjmont92 *fastest suv for under 50k
@@devinbender8428 no, that goes to the Kia Sportage SX Limited
Jared Shelton good joke!
Kia 0-60 7.2
Ford 5.2 not even close!
@@devinbender8428 Ford slower. Must be why they're not going to be selling these anymore in the U.S. 😂🤷
The Sportage won't do 0 to 60 in 5.5 seconds.
In what affordable SUV's do you go all out in corners?
What has better power and is an suv for 43,000?
Dodge Durango rt which also beat the Ford Explorer sport with the 3.5 eco boost the Ford Flex with the 3.5 eco boost to me the edge was just was a way for ford to get people to not pay attention to them killing all the cars off i would pick something different if I’m spending 43,000 on a suv
Bradley R Durango rt 5.7 goes 0-60 in 7s
This is going to get close to 5.0s good joke tho.
Devin Bender haha your lying right? The Dodge Durango rt is faster than the Explorer sport that does 0 60 in 5.9 seconds so it shouldn’t be hard for it to take damn something with less power and the same amount of weight sorry but fords twin turbo tech is behind and lacks power
enriquefeto keep letting yourself believe that
Bradley R YOUR FORGETTING WEIGHT!
the Durango weighs 1500lbs more with a worse transmission.
The edge sport was faster than the Durango rt! Let alone this ST
Yeah I want sport mode 24/7. So it burns alot ot gas 24/7
Shw needs to do her research. She said they sould of used the 10 speed but they cant it's for a RWD based car not a FWD.
Andrew King exactly
does the 2019 engine on the st have dual injection ??
EDGE ST is my dream car. Which octane number of gas do you fill up for the car? Is it able to fill up with regular octane gas?
The EDGE might not be the most pleasant SUV, but you're a very pleasant woman reviewing cars!!!
The 2019 Edge has one less engine option that the 2018 as they've done away with the 3.5 V6. Also the 10-speed from the Raptor cant be used because it was designed for RWD/4WD applications whereas the 8-Speed is for FWD/AWD applications.
BadHac Thank you! I thought I was the only one who noticed those errors.
Where do they find these uninformed reviewers?
The reviewer basically answered the main topic question , is the Edge ST, a real ST?
I had a Fiesta ST; the HANDLING and thrill you would experience from that car was like no other, especially for the price! The ST badge really meant something special for the Fiesta and Focus. It covered the performance dynamics of balanced handling and power; Traits in which we don’t see in the Edge.
This Edge ST is just a rebadged Edge Sport...
With that being said, I would probably still consider purchasing this vehicle, but I know it is not a true ST.
they dropped the sport name and this car isn't just a sport, it's got a few things upgraded including more horsepower. It's a good idea for ford to get rid of the sport badge and replace it with this. It's very much an ST.
The handling of the fiesta hands down is amazing but consider how small that car is.
StevenSVT Edge ST has 20 extra horsepower bringing it up to 335. Also sportier tuned suspension, better brakes and other performance enhancements. I’m sure the next generation 2021 Ford Edge ST will be even better and bigger difference from the 2015 - 2018 Ford Edge Sport. I’m waiting to see the enhancements they make for the 2020 Ford Explorer ST.
It’s a shame the rest of the world (Europe) are the only ones getting the all new Fiesta ST and Focus ST. According to Motor Trend they’re awesome little hot hatches.
Isn’t it a crossover? Normal driving for better economy? I had a 15 edge sport and it was a blast to drive. It could scoot too. The ST will be better but they need to update the interior dash... digital please!!!
TCR 223 This is just a mid-cycle refresh for the Ford Edge for 2019. I’m sure improved interior material fit and finish and a digital instrument panel will come for the 3rd generation 2021 Ford Edge redesign. Look at the 2020 Ford Explorer redesign. Hopefully it will look something like that.
This reviewer does not have enough of a working knowledge of how cars work to be reviewing them. Most could care less how something is edited, but as someone who has sold cars, I would say that a reviewer's number one job is educating without partiality. This reviewer doesn't have the knowledge that this vehicle has a transverse FWD setup like most modern cars, and thus uses a transaxle. This is different than a longitudinal RWD setup as in the F-150 and most other pickups. 8 speeds are pretty impressive for a transaxle as they typically can't be more than a foot long. The reason a vehicle downshifts on grades is purposeful to reduce brake wear while reducing speed of descent, and not even remotely unique to the Edge. Now does someone have to know how large the typical transaxle is? No, however they should have enough experience to give factual coverage of what they are reviewing and not just holistically feeling out it's aura in their own subjective opinion. This is the fault of the supervising editor for not reviewing the video before publishing.
I don't want this to be some giant negative storm, so I'll offer up some suggestions as best as I can without being an automotive journalist myself. First of all, drive more vehicles! A huge component of reviewing any product is comparative analysis. If you haven't experienced many different cars from different companies and from different eras, it will be difficult to have a contextual baseline. Also, ask anyone in the know more questions when you have the opportunity. They may know more than they were primed by the marketing department to go over in the presentation. This is especially true of lower level (direct to the) product engineers, as they are the nitty gritty guys and gals. Engineer leads tend to have less involvement in the problem solving, and are more supervisory and broad overview in their role. It's journalism: Seek experience, know how to find the best information, know how to communicate that information to John Q. Public. I'm no highly experienced reviewer, but to sell the modern vehicle, you have to be in the same position a lot of the time. Some folks are just steamrolling balls of charisma. Not much to do about that aspect, but our own due diligence.
MSTRCHIEF143 I’m pretty sure Elana has an insane amount of car knowledge, she worked as an editor for hot rod magazine for some years, then did road kill magazine, and also has been doing car reviews.
@@birdsnestfishing698 I know people who have worked at restaurants for a long time that still don't know how to cook. I know some salesman who have been selling cars for over 15 years who can barely tell you the difference between a wheel and a tire. You can be exposed to a related industry and not have to retain practical knowledge to get by, because it isn't necessarily required. When the job is literally communicating your knowledge of the topic, it's a little more difficult. There aren't too many successful mechanics that don't know what a torque wrench is. There seem to be a lot of tire techs that don't, though.
I only watched the first 1 min 30 seconds, I switched off after she called the car a crossover 3 times when it's actually an "SUV"... The Focus Active is Ford's crossover... That was when I realised she didn't know what she was talking about
That's what happens when women are forced into a man's job market.
@@EGGINFOOLS Every viewer supports your preference for men
I don't feel that the Edge ST is a suitable replacement for the Focus ST, especially when one considers that the Edge ST sells for more than the Focus RS. If all Ford intended was to offer a sporty appearance package for the Edge, then why not badge this as an "ST-Line," as Ford does in Europe?
Why would you compare this to a Focus or Fiesta? Both of those vehicles started out agile and light and became more agile with the ST treatment as did the Edge ST over the standard Edge. This vehicle should be compared to vehicles in its class/price range and the lesser non ST Edge.
4gasem Ford has discontinued sales of cars here in North America (save for the Mustang), which is why Ford decided to make an ST variant of the Edge crossover. The point that I made was that the Edge ST does not compare well to the other ST-badged cars that Ford sold in North America, namely the Fiesta ST and the Focus ST.
Eric Shea they're not supposed to be compared they're not even in the same class dumbass
Then why even bother slapping the st badge it isnt wothy of it. Its nota hot hatch is an suv
Waiting to see how these Focus and Fiesta fan boys lose their shit when they put a ST or RS badge on the Explorer. LOL
I love ford and I love the edge. Thanks for the honest review!
The whole time I was watching this video I was thinking escape. I thought- dang- that thing looks a lot like the edge. She kept calling it a big suv and I thought- why does she keep saying that! The escape isn’t that big! I was 3/4 thru the video before I realized my error. lol
Like this lady review and blunt style. Hope to see more of her car reviews! Very refreshing to see a very honest car review.
This or an RDX Aspec, what do you suggest?
tikijojo Acura RDX Aspec for sure. Or wait for RDX Type S version 😱😍😁 . I did the Volvo XC60 Rdesign T6 Polestar. Very happy with it. Amazing luxury interior.
My parents got an RDX A-Spec SH-AWD. Best choice.
RDX by far
Rdx a spec
RDX, though remember they're not in the same class, so the Edge will be slightly bigger.
This is no ST. What a disgrace to the nameplate. -Focus ST owner
lol
@@vincentsolferino LMAO
I agree. -Aslo an ST owner
ST? Lol all are trash. -Golf R owner
@@itsmini6175 yeah cause the RS dosent shit all over the R.
Have fun with your overpriced gti.
-Has a faster (20k cheaper) car then a golf r owner, owner.
Haven't driven the Edge ST but my wife and I seriously considered the 2018 Edge Sport earlier this year. Not too much different except a significant price bump, a slightly hotter engine, and an eight speed transmission (that may or may not be an improvement.) Oh, yeah, the ST badge(s) Lots of them. I liked it. My wife, who doesn't suffer from testosterone poisoning as I do, not so much.
Apart from the straight line performance of the V6 turbo (my thing, not hers), we both liked the size of the Edge. It's significantly shorter than most midsize crossovers making it easier to handle in suburban jungle traffic and shopping mall parking lots, a primary mission among this class of crossovers. The interior was OK but nothing to write home about. My wife complained about the steep rake of the windshield that made her feel like she was steering from the stern of an outboard. Likewise, she found the overall visibility to be compromised, especially on the front edges of the Edge. It was a small thing but for me the tiny tach seemingly added as an afterthought to the left edge of the dash was especially annoying in a "performance" vehicle.
The biggest fail for us, though, was the absence of third row seating. We're a small family (my spouse, a teenage daughter, and a big dog) so we don't need a third row about 90% of the time. But when we chauffeur my daughter and three or four of her friends, it's a godsend. And when we go out with another another couple or small family it's really convenient to take a single vehicle. Even when it's just my daughter and a girlfriend it's nice to put them as far away from the front row as possible. (For them as well as us.)
So what to do? We wanted a smaller midsize crossover with a usable third row. Fortunately, we found a more or less perfect compromise. The Kia Sorento SX-L is exactly the same length as the Edge. It has a third row of seats that, while snug, is adequate for a couple of teenagers or average size adults for local trips. Its overall cargo capacity behind the first and second rows is virtually identical to the Edge. Overall passenger room is likewise virtually identical in the first two rows. Better interior, better gadgets, and a far better bumper-to-bumper and poertrain warranty at a price several thousand dollars below the MSRP of the Edge. It's my wife's daily driver so my whining about the superior performance of the Edge's V6 Turbo didn't turn the tide and ultimately I had to agree the Sorento was a better choice for us.
Whether we would have made the same decision for the 2019 models, I can't say. But Ford has bumped the MSRP of the ST about $5000 compared to a fully loaded 2018 Sport. And from what I've seen, the claims about the improvements that merit the ST badge strike me as more marketing hype than substantive arguments. For $50,000 I just don't see the value compared to some of the competition, especially the Kia Sorento.
P.S. Good review. Ignore the haters.
If you're interested in 3 rows, check out the New Subaru Ascent. They just came out a few weeks ago.
This thing looks identical to the 18’ Edge sport in everything but the new transmission. My local ford dealer was marking down some leftover 16’ model year Edge Sports for $26k brand new about a year ago. I was almost convinced to buy one but ended up not taking the chance.
Paul Corrreau: The Ascent hadn't been released when we were shopping earlier this year and it appears from early reviews to be a good vehicle, especially for Subar-ites. But I don't think it would have changed our minds compared to the Sorento. First, although the Ascent makes more efficient use of its interior space than the CX-9, it's still about seven inches longer than the Sorento (and the Edge). As I noted above, we don't need a third row of seats most of the time and the Sorento combines a usable third row with a more compact size than other midsize crossovers. Second, the only engine available is Subaru's 2.5L turbo 4 and I prefer a V6 for vehicles like this. Third, although I'm not a fanatic about it, I just don't like CVT transmissions and that's the only option for the Ascent. I wouldn't fault anyone, especially Subaru fans, who purchases an Ascent and I've already seen a few on the road in the last couple of months, but it just wasn't for us.
Tyler Beeson: When we were shopping earlier this year before the Edge ST was available Ford dealers were offering significant discounts were offering significant discounts on 2018 Edge Sport (though not as much as you report for leftover 2016 models a year ago). Now, according to AutoTrader there are no 2018 Edge Sports available within any distance of my location. (That's not necessarily reliable, of course.) But there are a number of 2018 "Titanium" models available for around $35K. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2019 Edge ST discounted to at least $45K if examples sit on lots (as I suspect they will) for a couple of months.
@@stephenhendricks103 I agree about the V6 and the transmission, not a CVT fan as most people aren't as well. I do have a Santa Fe sport with the 2.0L turbo, it's plenty peppy but I preferred the V6 I had in my last vehicle. Sorry I hadn't understood you had already purchased the Sorento. My neighbour has one and loves it.
"4 passenger with an emergency 5 option" pretty much describes ALL vehicles these days. Its almost like they dont want you hauling 3 in the back
Do they offer wireless charging
A rwd based transmission in a fwd sedan based crossover? That'll take a bit of magic.
Your complaining about pushing a button for sport mode? It pushing a button, its not like going through a bunch of menus to engage sport mode, its a button. Calling that a inconvenience has to be the most ridiculous criticism i have ever. heard
NO IT'S NOT! Better MPG with it off which means EPA happy! My father had multiple M cars. Everyone had a button or sequence you had to do before going in to M mode which is basically sport mode.
The 10sp transmission is for rear wheel drive biased platforms.
717 flyer Most people don’t understand that. The 8 speed is still a great transmission. I wish I had gotten a new 2019 Ford Edge Titanium or ST instead of a pre-owned 2015 Edge Titanium with the old 6 speed transmission and outdated Sync 2 infotainment system. Sync 3 is so much better with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. I don’t feel like spending $1,500 and ripping apart the dashboard to upgrade to Sync 3 though.
I like the looks of the ST but the interior needs to be redone big time!
I appreciate the in-depth interior review and agree with pretty much all of it. Seeing as this is a performance vehicle, I would have liked to see some performance testing. I'm guessing Edmunds doesn't want the liability?
I really like this lady reviewing cars. Real complaints, real attention to details and real questions.
She comes from MotorTrend and worked a lot of with the Roadkill crew. She knows here stuff! Big Mopar fan.
She’s awesome!
At least she seems to know what shes talking about unlike some other female car reviewers Ive watched. It was obvious they were nothing more than pretty faces doing a car review
Real dumb questions for someone who should be an automotive enthusiast.
Why did Ford use the 8 speed, when they have an excellent 10 speed? Because the Ford / GM 10 speed is RWD based and the 8 / 9 speed is FWD based. Guess which the Edge is?
Why don't they not have a sport mode and always keep the Edge in sport mode? Because the EPA numbers would suck and you only drive it that way 5% of the time anyway.
Ford needs to keep the Focus ST if they want to stay in the performance small-car game. I don't know why they're going to stop selling them. I see Fusions and Focuses EVERYWHERE around where I live. Not to mention that this this when well equipped nearly hits $50k. A well equipped Focus ST brand new doesn't hit 30, and you can get them for nearly 20 new if you push for a better deal! I've got a '14 Fiesta ST, and my next car will not be a Ford. This move no "no cars" is going to make me move into an Audi S3 or a Subaru WRX as choice for my next car.
They conceded that market to the Japanese, Koreans and Germans. After 40+ years I guess they finally feel they can't beat the Japanese for quality smaller cars, the Koreans for bargain small cars and Germans for premium small cars. So if your in the market say 2020, you'll be looking at Subaru WRX, Civic Si, Accent N or Golf GTI.
It's also going to backfire when gas prices return to the $5 mark. But then we'll start some global war over control of Middle Eastern or South American oil.
Fantastic video!
Not worthy of the St badge it's pretty much the same as the edge sport
Cole Carson it’s faster than the Focus ST
@@devinbender8428 the St badge isn't about straight line speed, it is about fun and good handling
Cole Carson and it will be loads of fun to drive. For a car that size to go that fast!
@@devinbender8428 yeah but other sports SUVs like the stelvio quadrifolio and the trackhawk are way faster than this so why get this one
Cole Carson to get a faster suv you have to spend 70k+
I am starting really appreciate Elana. Refreshing!!!! I don't really care much for Ford, or SUVs... but I watched it until the end.
Great review! Very informative! 👍👍👏👏😀🚗
You're literally the only person who can make this vehicle seem good. You really are the best reviewer out there!
How has Ford chosen to drop all sedans to focus on crossovers, yet produce this as their crossover? I’d expect much more considering the sacrifice.
Logan Carter this is still the OLD crossover from 2012. The updates are coming 2020-2022
The focus was a much more desirable car than this thing. I blame chicks.
Where is it built? Germany or Mexico ?
Oakville Ontario Canada
I'm mixed about putting unique badges like this on vehicles like this. I have a '17 Focus ST which is a blast to drive. The ST spec was designed specifically for this vehicle along with the Fiesta, and that's makes them unique. However, Ford believes that somehow they can capture what made the ST vehicles unique and reproduce it in the Edge, which is a totally different vehicle with its own set of dynamics. I don't completely understand it because it can't possibly be anything like the cars.
Normally, I would complain about what I call Badge Thinning, which is spreading a unique performance package to multiple vehicles. But Ford will no longer manufacturer cars (Mustang withheld) for the States, so the ST badge on the Edge will be the only vehicle in Ford's lineup with that distinction. I would argue that the more vehicles that have a unique performance upgrade built in, the less significant those vehicles will be.
A good example is Dodge. When the Challenger SRT Hellcat first came out, it was really different. Really special. Then Dodge decided to put that package in the Charger. And the Grand Cherokee. Suddenly, the Challenger version wasn't so special anymore. Then there's the Hellcat Redeye. And the insane Demon. Your original Hellcat had now become a commodity, just like your neighbor's Camry. You could probably make a case for the SRT badge too. You can get that in nearly every Dodge.
"Hey, check out my new Charger SRT! Isn't it bitchin?" Yep, just like the thousands of other Dodge SRT vehicles I see driving everyday. Yay. 😴
Like the quote from the movie The Incredibles: "When everyone is super, no one will be."
Gosh is it only me or this lady complains about everything in every car ? It’s insane!!
It's not only you
Luan Vianna I think she’s high on something. Where did they find her?
It's twin charged BTW Edmonds
Its twin turboed not twin charged
right, my bad. I just am not sure I want it over the Focus RS T_T. I really want a great offroad experience
without all the fake Offroad performance
It looks nice, but I kinda wish they kept the tail lights from the 2015-18 model
Great detailed review.
Good honest thorough review.
She reminds me of the crazy cat lady you see in the pet food isle.
not even close
You're right when you said that the interior of the car is not at the same level of other "competitors" such as de Macan, Q3, Levante. The thing is that those are premium models and this Edge ST is not ta that level. I saw a video on TFL car YT channel and they said that this SUV doesn't have a direct competitor, it has its "own" position of the market...
Why are car manufacturers getting rid of transmission shift levers and going to a daily instead? I drove a Chrysler 200 with one as a rental car and it was VERY confusing l, I put it into the wrong gear all of the time! Besides my first car was a manual transmission so I'm used to placing my right hand on the shift lever, even with automatics.
The comments about the Sport mode? Why have it? Sport mode holds in gears longer for both accelerating and decelerating for a better response and feel. The reason you can turn it off is for fuel economy. Remember that the government has standards, and Ford wants the best ratings possible. I can't believe that comment, or some others. Won't be watching this reviewer again.
Great review. Will be looking for better alternatives.
I love the interior. Nice and simple.
It doesn't default into sport mode-most likely because they were still trying to get higher EPA numbers. Sport mode makes the throttle more responsive and keeps the transmission in a lower gear which would reduce fuel economy.
I just watched a rav4 review and it's got near identical cargo space numbers, seats up and down. so much for that edge.
rav4 is ugly as hell
I am sooooo glad I got a 2018 Edge Sport!!! Fully loaded for $39,970!!!
tacbear Was there a huge dealer discount? When I worked at a Ford dealership in 2016 a fully loaded 2016 Edge Sport was going for $48,000.
Great review! I was hoping the Suspension would have more of the ST touch.
I don't understand why car designers put so many electrical bush buttons right beside cup holders.
This thing got the "ST" badge for the same reason that the 500 became the new Taurus... marketability of a name.
S is for select shift and it shifts to lower gear when going down hill so you don't have ride the brakes all the way down, like you'd do in a manual doing the same thing to keep from just accelerating as you coast down. Also, the reason for all of those climate controls is probably because the passenger can control their own AC/heat.
It was big in Europe you know they still sell it here right
Dont understand why she only compared it to Luxury versions. Its still a ford, not a Lincoln. Also id rather her test what shes saying not just giving opinion about cornering but not really test it in a corner? And as someone who drives for a living, I love how simple and uncrowded the interior feels. Just very open. I love this truck. I got the 14 sport. I wouldnt trade it for anything else in the class.
Modler Jeancharles because no regular brands have a XUV anything close.
This thing has 380lbft the next closest is the Jeep Cherokee with 285. So they have to test against luxury xuvs.
Devin Bender makes sense in that case but to compare it to the Alfa in term of luxury is kind of unfair to a car that is meant to be a luxury car. I dont think of ford when thinking of Luxury. To me she should have reviwed it as an SUV with a little kick when you need it. Again as a 14 edge sport owner that has 305 HP I can imagine this has alot more kick to it with over 25 more HP.
Huh, Ford is making an "ST" version of the Edge! The same vehicle they told me 7 years ago that there was "no market for" when I asked them to put a Super Snake engine in the Edge Sport to make it an ACTUAL sport!
el Negro Noche a bigger engine doesn’t necessarily make a car more sporty
It’s using the engine to slow down the car that’s why it was revving like that
One thing that people are not realizing and it could be the age of the people watching this is the 335 /380ft-lbs is just stock from Ford. Anyone that is into Ford's and performance knows at least 10 companies that will tune it for 93 octane and those numbers will go to up or over 365 hp and well over 400 ft-lbs torque and that much power in this will be crazy fun and you have room to take the kids and dog on trips... yea the interior needs help but once I am standing on the go pedal I won't care that much about the interior...LOL Our local dealer is claiming if you don't get the big wheels/brake package it will sell for 43K which means if they don't sell will drop to 40k or 39K.. so now that is not bad for all this... yes you can get another brand with more power, better interior but not for this price. I want this for my daily driver instead of my 2014 2.0 escape, and when I need more of a thrill I have other toys in the garage that will scare me...LOL
William Clements what a world we live in where we have family SUVs getting 400lbft of torque on pump gas
Devin Bender that is what I have been saying :)
AWESOME VEHICLE, FORD does it again, my next future vehicle is going to be a S. T. EDGE , loaded of course............
Nice styling but I hope it’s worthy of the ST badge!
Only real competitors to the mainstream Edge is IMO is the Nissan Murano and new 2019 Hyundai Sante Fe.
SS S Jeep Cherokee. Also no one else comes close to 380lbft of torque.
SS S Don’t forger new Honda Passport, Chevrolet Blazer, Kia Sorento, Toyota Highlander, Subaru Outback, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and more. Everyone is putting out midsize crossovers now. Nissan started the segment with the 2003 Murano.
Awesome video Elana
This has the 8 Speed because the 10 speed is a RWD longitudinal transmission. The 8 speed is for FWD based chassis like the edge.
What SUV is good looking? Tolerable maybe.
grabir01 my 2018 world car of year Volvo XC60 Rdesign T6 330hp Polestar is good looking 😁 th-cam.com/video/MzHWC-7y040/w-d-xo.html
grabir01 Volvo XC60, Range Rover, Lincoln’s Nautilus...
Gross !
Xc60 xc90
Cx9 cx5
Q6 q7 q5
Qx30, GLA (not necessarily SUV'S but close enough And both of these are 😍)
Im not even an SUV fan but i can admit.. those make my clitoris throb
Oh and controversial cause lexus you know
But i think the rx350 is the single hand best looking SUV on the road from any and all manufacturers. Once i got used to the grill on them (used to love it on the sedans hated it on the SUV'S). The lines and shapes are simply outstanding
And i fucking hate lexi's
@ 7:13 love her 💅🏻 and the 🧥 the interior 🤨
OMG someone should explain to her the difference between a FWD car and RWD then She would understand WHY THEY DIDN'T PUT THE 10 SPEED OF THE RAPTOR IN THE EDGE . FACEPALM
Well she is a female driver she doesn't know how to drive let alone anything about cars
It’s a nice looking SUV from the outside always loved the way the Edge looked the inside well I like the simplistic dash it’s not too cluttered same with the radio, etc. Ford should of put the new 10 speed in the Edge she’s right about that as far as the sport mode goes I guess I’m old I don’t see the point of it. You buy a performance SUV/car the ride should be on the firm side always. 28K isn’t a bad deal bit for the money I’d would buy a Subaru XT used of course seeing they don’t make that model anymore. The Mazda CX-5 would be high on my list as well, Mazda makes all their car, etc fun to drive.
Lay off the comments on her she does a good job on these reviews. And she’s cute!
That interior is horrid for a 2019. Step up your game, Ford.
Legit, the exact same interior in my 2014 Taurus.
Almost same as my wifes 2011 Edge Limited
richard button It’s much better than the first generation Ford Edge from 2007 - 2014. The 1st generation had atrocious interior quality with even cheaper harder plastics. This is a big step up from then. Hopefully the 2021 redesign of the Ford Edge will be like the new Ford Explorer and Escape with better interior quality materials. The Ford Fusion is even worse.
I have a focus ST and this video makes me cringe. This is a sorry excuse for an ST and I'm furious that ford thinks that this is a worthy replacement.
Only rear-wheel-drive vehicles get the ten-speed transmission.
Says it has an "updated transmission". If you know anything about Ford Focus and Fiesta, the Powershift tranmissions all failed, multiple times, became extremely unsafe to drive, and in Australia, you had to sign a non-disclosure statement when you accepted their settlement to you. Nobody was allowed to discus just how pervasive or extensive the failures of that transmission were. At least in the US, owners can talk about how unsafe it made these cars.
Aussie2u this is a completely different 8spd auto. Completely different than the shitty 6spd in the focus and fiesta
For that interior and power. I'll pay $28,990. Sounds reasonable to me.
Crazy overpriced. Interior from a decade ago. Plows as the limit and has slow shift logic. RIP FiestaST. I miss you already
Blake Swan name a better performance suv for 45k or less
he can't and this isn't overpriced when you add the options, and for what you get it's reasonable.
Blake Swan Europe still gets new ST models like the Fiesta ST and Focus ST. Automotive journalists say they’re fun to drive excellent little hot hatches too. It’s a shame Americans are so crossover hypnotized that we can’t even get regular new Fiesta and Focus models now. I wanted to buy a 2019 Ford Focus last year. I guess I’ll need to look at a Volkswagen Jetta or Golf next.
this is my next car in 2020
Why not make Sport Mode the default for the ST? Simple. Fuel efficiency ratings. It's that Monroney sticker on the window and CAFE standards.
Ford interior is sooooo basic. Doesn't matter what trim u get.
But it's got a little wheel to change gears. It's not an unnecessary pain in the ass, it's innovative.
I've driven many new Edges many times, really not a fan. It's probably not too bad to drive once it's got a little bit of power, but you get sick of trying to see past the gigantic A pillars real fast. Plus, the steering is terrible, the turning radius is terrible. Performance is okay with the 3.5 V6 but it's far too heavy for the 2.0L EcoBoost which is what most of them have. It's not tediously slow compared to most cars, but it absolutely is compared to most of the other vehicles that Ford are currently making. The 2.0L is great in the Escape, MKC, and Focus ST, but it's just too small for the Edge.
MaxTheKanuck the 2.0l ecoboost has more power and torque than most SUVs in this segment!
The closest is the Jeep Cherokee 3.2v6
Yea it has 10 more hp but the edge has 30 more torque!!!
Yea the edge feels slow because it’s a soccer mom crossover. But it’s still faster than the competition. Let alone with the 2.7!
They killed off the 3.5 because the 2.0 is just that much better!
@@devinbender8428 They didn't kill off the 3.5. It's much better suited to a heavy SUV than the 2.0L.
MaxTheKanuck *they killed it in the edge 2018 is the last year. The flex is dead next year and the last year for the explorer is next year before it goes rwd.
The 3.5 is dead to ford. It’s old and weak.
Yeah idk why there is modes, it should be sport period
This lady clearly isn’t a fan of Ford!
She'd rather have an Alfa that she can visit in the repair shop.
"...It feels like it would push back." She doesn't push the vehicle, but makes judgement about what what it "might" handle like when pushed? Too bad. The Edge runs circles around an Audi or BMW X5, that's a fact not a reach.
The Maintenance cost is much more Practical than any European vehicle so you gain more owning a Ford or Lincoln.
Americans should stop complaining about this new Edge ST. We don’t even get it in Europe (emissions, blah blah blah). We only get the ST-line Edge, which has a 2.0 liter diesel with 238hp. But we do get the all-new Fiesta ST which you should look at some reviews, and get jealous.
People are buying cars, they just are forcing the market towards SUV's. YTD (US) Fiesta 36,518. Focus 100,267. Fusion 124,964. Taurus 21,718. Mustang 61,619. MKZ 14,921. Continental 6,334.
"St badge is for a smaller car with good handling" guessing you've forgot about the old mondeo st