Rustoleum paint job metal flake speedokote 2k clear OBS Chevy project truck part1. Not a how to :)
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- This is a project update on my budget restoration of a beat up OBS Chevy lowrider truck . In this video I spray a Rustoleum black base coat at 4/2/1 mix ratio using a 1.3 tip, then lay 2 layers of speedokote 2k clear with 3 flat teaspoons of Dipspade purple metal flake size 0.008 using the 1.8 tip. I still have to sand a few problem spots then spray multiple layers of clear to finish this part of the project. Please watch the newer video which fixed the issues I had in this video. The next attempt of this paint job came out perfect.
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When I tell people I painted my truck in my drive way they always look at me sideways I’m glad there’s people like you just doing it in the garage.
Thanks 👍its pretty much the same just a bit more shade and things to trip over. Good times 🤣
@@thisoldhooptie yea I would have done it in the garage if I could but my I’ve turned our garage into her gym so I’m out😂😂😂
@@Justthemow That is funny. Gyms are important though so I get it 🤣
if it's a paint booth that is what you want some cheap one x one's and some clear plastic, and a shop fan, will do the trick as long as you have a clean level surface to shoot on. my dad did it and he graduated from auto body vo-tec class. even in a pro booth you are gonna get crap in the paint it'll buff out. if one doesn't care to wet sand, you should leave painting up to those that get paid for it. if you don't want to pay the work is the only option. it's strangely gratifying, the hardest part of going completely through a car is letting go of it after it's done. it tares at your soul.
@@ronwhittaker6317 You do build a bond with these things after working on them. Im just having some fun in the garage.
From a 40 year veteran painting cars, you did a great job
Thank you 👍
😂
It's your truck your tools your time your money who cares what anyone says good job!
Thank you, im having a blast. 👍
the good lord blessed me with the attitude that i have ,i dont give a rats behind what somebody thinks of me .😁
Man, loved the video. Do what you do.. I think it pretty cool. I also appreciate that you do not respond to comments the same way they are "sprayed" at you. Keep up the positive attitude. Looks real good
I am not bothered in the slightest, life is to short to worry about nonsense. Also I did get it right on the next test. Currently I am In the process of going all black then ill spray it when together. I tried to match it months later, no dice. Another thing I learned is if splitting things up when using flake measure everything very well. Yeah who would have thought 🤔 🤣 Thanks for hanging with me.
Looks good your almost there..... keep up the good work !!!!
Thank you :)
I know I’m super late with this but my grandfather always told me that more coats do not mean you’ll get a smoother finish. The bare metal should be as smooth as possible and the same with each coat of primer. Once you have a smooth and clean base of primer then move into base coat of color. And repeat the process. And it never hurts to do a wet sand between coats. That way by the time you apply your final coat or two of clear you have a smooth finish. But you have the right idea and your doing great work man. Looks great with the color combo you chose.
Thank you for the tips. 👍 Sounds like that would create a very smooth finish. My plan was similar, I wet sanded the final coat of clear then flow coated and polished for a smooth finish. I made quite a few mistakes this try. I did get the test right on the next go around.
Love your "can do" attitude.
Great job on the paint, very inspiring.
Earned a like and a subscribe from me.
Thank you. It took a try or two but I did get things right on the next test. Thats now posted in a another video. Im fixing some body work on the back of the cab then spraying the truck.
Just subscribed. Looking forward to your future updates
Thanks 👍 my latest video has a full update on where I'm at and the game plan moving forward for this truck. Im actually cleaning the beast up right now prepping for paint. Going to apply what I have learned from all of you along the way. Have a peek to catch up.
Looks great. I have used Rustoleum / Tremclad for years. Thin out with acetone and use some fibreglass hardener. Turns out great.
I agree 👍 once I got the technique down it does come out very nice. Took alittle extra work for adding the flake, I did get it right on the second try though.
@@thisoldhooptie The flake is a great idea, I will try that when I paint my sons truck. Stay safe and happy painting.
@@reloadnorth7722 Thanks bro, same to you and yours 👍
@@thisoldhooptie what did you learn in the second go around looking to do a flake rustoleum job I've done many just no flake
@@imaboss1998 I learned its possible with a little extra knowledge on the process. If your new like me paint everything in one shot. Matching panels later without weighing or being exact on the amount of flake used is very hard or impossible. Also if using color flakes other then silver make sure you get very good coverage of the clear coats after the flake. Sanding through the clear at all will sand off the color making it silver ruining the finish. Now you can correct this I've been told by using full coverage of the flake. This way just add another flake coat to the damage then re clear it. This I have not tried due to not using full coverage. Since a few pros who seemed to know the trade commented with that fix its worth a try. I am positive it can be done my furniture came out great and has held up. Also I polished some of the hood and that was beautiful. In the mean time I've gone back to a black base and will attempt this again once the bed is back on.
Experimenting with paint can be so much fun. If it doesn't turn out, okay, you've learned something. If it turns out fantastic, then it's exciting! Myself I haven't painted cars or motorcycles since 1980. Looking forward to doing it again someday soon. Thanks for the information and the great video.
I feel the same way. Thanks for the kind words. 👍
Quick tip I learned from a friend to fix runs. Blot them with a piece of plastic in a wide area on and around the run then clear over it after it settles flat
Thank you for the tip. 👍Do you use kitchen cling wrap? Tell me more, sounds interesting.
That looks awesome👍💯 You gotta keep it all the same color😍😍💯
Right! I am totally feeling this color. When I saw the darkness from the black then anywhere that light hit gave off a deep purple shine, I was like damnnnnnn.....
@@thisoldhooptie
Yes bro, turning out better than anyone expected. 👍🎯🔥 Keep up the great work 👍
I know I said I was going to do a 2 tone paint job on the sides. That may change, I really like the mix of purple and black this ended up. When the light hits even with out the extra clear it shines. Keep in mind this is only the base coat, I still have multiple layers of clear needed to cover the mess, then wet sand and buff to a shine. First I have to fix a few drops and runs then I will post the results in the next video. Thanks for hanging with me :)
How turn out for pattern? I have mini 4
That cool..
Thank you 👍
Once I got the hang of it came out great. Can't do panel by panel so as you saw I went all black till the bed is back on then I will spray the whole truck together.
I mean how many turn out on mixer?
Came out very nice
Thank you. For my first try yes. I ended up doing a much better job the second time around.
Great job well done
Thank you 👍
Painting is fun but lots of cleaning
Plus overspray protection is hard to do
I found more things oversprayred than I expected
Looks good your truck!
Thanks 👍, the main reason i picked up the turbine sprayer was to cut down on the over spray. Im having a blast. Each try has been better then the last.
I did it whoo 🤭 but I got small run ,I'll wait till tomorrow do wet sand .it looking crazy 😍 beautiful
Thanks you Thanks you very much..God bless you 🙏 my friend.. thanks again for showing me . I'm very excited now.. 😊
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Glad I was able to help. Make sure you dont sand to deep with the wet sand, the flake will turn silver if the purple dye is rubbed off. Other then that you should be ready to rock 😎
dude killer job! I had not seen this combo before. Roughly how long did you wait after the black rustoleum before you sprayed the metallic/clear? I had issues previously spraying clear over rustoleum but I think thats because I waited too long after it set up. Cheers!
Thank you 😁, with catalyst added to the rustoleum i was able to spray clear with the flake in around 10 min. Then another 10 min between each coat if clear after that. Keep in mind it was over 90 degrees here. Worked out good though, i ran into a few snags but fixed them second go around. Check out the next video with the 4 layers of clear over the flake.
Looks killer!
Thank you 👍
Truck looks great! Can you make a video of installing carpet? My 98 doesn’t haven’t any and I can’t find any videos that are detailed like yours!
Thank you. I do have a brand new carpet for my tahoe. Same front layout as the trucks. Probly will not be getting in to that truck until December or January. I need the 2 door ready for the road before I pull apart the tahoe. Carpets are pretty easy to install. Your just trimming the front and sides a bit to fit under the dash and plastics. The good ones have pre molded rubber under them lining up the area under the seats and trans hump so you can see the extra on the sides and front.
Definitely hella good job on the paint job, keep up the good work. Definitely show us the final look when it’s out in the sun. Also what width span was on your gun? Didn’t look like a regular spray pattern.
Thanks. I had an issue with the flake clogging up so I opened it up pretty wide with the 1.8 tip. It was around 10 inches. I got a 2.0 tip a day ago which should solve the problem letting me have a little less material shooting out. The big spray caused a couple runs which sucked but live and learn. I had to learn to watch the clear and not the flake. It will turn out good in the end.
@@thisoldhooptie oooh ok, that’s what I thought lol… that was the eye catching for me was like umm that fan spray is wide. The lay down was looking really really good. Definitely can’t wait to see the final paint job in the sun. So the 2.0 tip help with the flake release?
From what I gather yes. Im no expert, this is more of a trial and error project. I can paint and shoot clear with great results. This is my first go with actual flake though. I have used spray can glitter before which comes out amazing. For an example check out my furniture video I did for my daughter. That was rustoleum aluminum, with catalyst, spray glitter, then speedocoat clear. Everything came out perfect, i barly had to sand the clear it layed very smooth.
Great job budd
Thank you. I did better the second time around. Failing is learning, 3rd time will be perfect once I have some free time 👍
That's definitely quite the painting technique
It was definitely a learning experience. I got the technique down on the second try. I should have done the whole truck in one shot. Live and learn. 👍
The one major bit of info I could share if I may is when you are using whatever color as your base coat, use a flat paint not gloss like you did. Soon as you clear it the flat will turn gloss but gloss is like a sealed off coating once it's applied as to flat is porous so the clear will bond to it way better!! Plus flat paints apply a bit smoother so you are not fighting the orange peel as much. Makes a huge difference and it will be shinny in the end don't worry!! Long as you us gloss clear that is..
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I will definatly test a flat paint before I try again. 👍
@@thisoldhooptie you will be shocked at the difference and ease of operation if you will. Automotive base coats once applied and flash off they are basically flat or a matte finish and as you apply the clear coat it looks so fricken cool to see the shine appear!! Also idk If you have seen the clear coat that is in a rattle can? It's still a 2k with activator and all that it's just separated in the can until you puncture the tab and they mix together in the can. Same stuff as you would apply out the gun but in a rattle can. For smaller projects or something that you want a tough nice finish on they are amazing!! Amazon has them and most paint stores. I did some custom tail lights just the other day and did a few coats of clear with a can and you can't tell the difference between the paint of the truck and the lights. Finish wise that is. Really awesome for smaller stuff and no clean up!! Will last a few day in the can after it's activated to if on a cool place but you want to use it up if you can and not store it once mixed. But ya cool stuff man!!
@@mauryamckendrick5446 I will more then likely do some painting with automotive paints when I'm done seeing what can be done with Rustoleum on the cheap. If I was shooting something with real value I would not be painting it with Rustoleum. I watched the few channels on TH-cam who did some nice things with Rustoleum. When I didn't see all the things I was looking for i decided to try them my self. I want to know what happens to perls, flake, and other 3 stage paint jobs when layered on rustolem. Im not saying its the right way, im just curious and I know by the views that many others are too. I know people dont like to here it, sanding things down being a waste of time and all, however its my time and i actually find sanding my projects and painting them relaxing. As for the spraymax 2k clear I have used that a few times on headlights and on furniture. Its what I used prior to having my fuji spray turbine setup. It does leave a perfect finish just less material for the money as you stated. I was originally going to do the whole truck with it. Between fixing the electrical mess in my ls swapped s10 and the finish work on this truck I will be painting some custom Rustoleum tests with flake, color shifting perls, perls, then finished with speedokote clear. Consider it a science experiment 😉
You could of supported the rear axle on Jackson's, taken off the rear tires and slip the box back allowing you access to paint both the cab and the box. Still a very nice job. Enjoyed the video.
Thats a great tip, thank you!
I don’t think Jackson would have liked that idea.
🤣 probly not
@@thisoldhooptie 🤣🤣
That is the best paint job,I've ever seen
Thank you. 👍 I dont know about that but I did learn alot. It came out great in round two. Check my playlist for the next try. That time it did come beautiful clearcoat and all.
To not get any orange peel I figured out just mix it 50/50 acetone and do one thick coat almost to the point of dripping and it lays out really smooth with zero orange peel.
Nice! That mix seems popular, i have seen others using it. For me I ussually have no orange peel with both 4/1 and 4/2 see my furniture videos in my house playlist as an example. I use 2 or 3 thin coats that go on very smooth. With this much flake I dont think its possible to have no peal. Could be wrong though. Either way once sanded i will lay down a flow coat which will smooth it out. Also i had an issue with the gun glogging in this video see the next one for my corrections.
I like it. WOW
Thanks 👍
5 years from now:
What’s all that purple glitter in my tool box.
Probly, I have silver and purple glitter on the floor here and there from shooting the lower panels and furniture. Once the painting is done im sanding and redoing the floor so not too big a big deal. My house is clean, as for the garage it should look worked in since it is. 😁
like your video ,could you do a future video to let someone know ,if the hardener made it cloudy ,and if it made the finish more durable .thanks ,happy trails .
Thank you 👍
I will definitely do that. I ended up going back to black for a bit due to not being able to match the panels. I'm about to start a rustolium playlist. Stay tuned. This group of videos will answer all the questions. As for your questions, no, the clear was crystal clear, even better when cut and buffed out. The only clear that I have used that went on cloudy and then cleared was the 1k stuff on the dash. I'm not happy with the 1k. It's not as hard and shinny as the 2k. It's clear and looks great as cam be seen in many of my videos. I just prefer the 2k for all its benefits. The black other then being dirty has held up great so far. The dash has too. I'm also a big fan of the rustoleum paint jobs 😁
@@thisoldhooptie thanks for your response ,im thinking of doing the same thing to my obs stepside. but with pearl .i live in west Texas where the sunshine and uv rays are brutal .keep up the good work ,happy trails .
In mixing the rustolium gloss black house paint, how much acetone did you use in order to thin it to a spray able application ? I have an acrylic base gloss black color paint that I am trying to figure out best way for me to actually thin the paint so I can use it in application on my 1997 Zx7r 750cc Kawasaki Ninja motorcycle plastic fairings kit. My orange color paint is water based an it needs thinning as well. In order to be sprayed through my paint gun. I'm just not clear on how to achieve that process. Any insight would definitely be appreciated...the orange house paint is a semi gloss orange.
You need to research the thinner or reducer for each paint type. Rustoleum is oil based enamel and thins best with acetone or mineral spirit depending on temp. Im in a hot humid area and thin the rustoleum at 4 parts paint 2 parts acetone and 2 oz of magic catalyst. Check the back of the cans your using they should have the proper reducer listed.
Them flakes sure do take a lot of sanding .. and Alos a lot of clear coats to get a wet look .. it came out good bro .. .. do a float coat of clear and it will come out like mirror
Thanks bro. I see a lot of sanding in my future 👍
Yes sir but it's going to come out clean 👍
Not bad for a first time, all the pros will come out the wood work sum will know sum won't... But great job for trying you can only get better right...
Thank you.. Thats how i see it. Try, fail, learn, improve. Round 2 was much better. I will have it right on the third try. It would have been good on the second however I had to learn more. I didn't measure the flake exact, when I tried to match another panel it failed. The finish was good though. If your interested in following along I show round 2 in the next video, then explain my new game plan in the one from a couple weeks back. I get its wasted time to some. I have the time and am enjoying the process.
What was the reason for going with rust oleum instead of say a base/clear since you were clearing anyways or going with a single stage urethane or even an oldie but goodie, a single stage acrylic enamel? All of these, even tho they are listed as single stage, can all be top costed with clear for durability, appearance, or to cover large flake, etc.
That purple is absolutely gorgeous tho!! I love it!!
Thank you 👍I did things this way for a few reasons. First and foremost I have never painted something so large specifically an automobile and new I would waste alot of product learning. I also had much of what what used for doing furniture refinishing in my little girls room like the clear and flake. The cost of 1 gallon of black rustoleum was around 30 dollars at the time I purchased it, making this less then half the cheapest single stage on Ebay. And last I wanted to see if I could do it. Which i did figure out the process in the next test video. I was not however able to get parts to match when painting separate so its more sanding then all black till its put back together and can be painted this way in one shot. I have learned a ton along the way both with trial and error and the excellent group of people who add tips in the comments. For me its just having fun learning the process.
I guess I also made it tougher by using medium coverage of the flake. I want the black to show through. I was told had I gone full flake it would have been easier to repair issues and match panels. Live and learn 😁
Yes he is using a basic lacquer paint what was used on cars till the mid 60s you don't need a clear coat but then you have to compound and wax to finish but it comes out like glass and where do you get this paint and you can get the clear too Tractor Supply been doing this for years and years looks damn good too basic colors and it's real fancy well then you can put some flake in it
👍Thanks
How long did you wait for the black to dry ?…. Did the clear held on good due to the black being oil base? Only reason why I ask is spray rustoleum flat white on my project and would like to shoot some type of flat clear for protection and I read I couldn’t for a full cure , proximately 30 days or so 🤷🏻♂️.
The clear had a good bond with the paint and yes you are are correct that would be the easy way with no catalyst. The exact times are listed in the video, I believe it was 15 minutes. I used a catalyst mixed in my rustoleum which makes it harden faster. That is listed in the description magic catalyst and explained in the very beginning of the video. I give the paint mix details right before i paint. If you used plain rustoleum it's best to let the paint cure before shooting clearcoat if it's already on the vehicle. This will make sure the paint doesn't crinkle. Good luck 👍
what sucks is I needed to patch some sheet rock and could never match the texture, so I hired a guy to do it. Looks like you matched the texture of my drywall without trying.
Excellent while learning to fail at painting i became a drywall texture expert. 🤣 Just don't ask me to match it again that was the issue on try 2. I got rid of the peal but the color was impossible to match since it was not fully flaked. I did get a better finish on try two. 👍
@@thisoldhooptie no worries! I'm thinking of tackling my 68 cougar paint job myself... and im sure it'll be rougher than yours lol...
@@chadhickey9942 enjoy the journey brother 👍
Good morning. I had all black glossy wow? I leave it dry it ok to put deep purple flake when it dry ?? Or it had to wait 10 min ?
Depends on the paint. I lay the flake and clear shortly after the paint gets tacky. Or I wait for it to totally cure. Thats with rustoleum. You have to test how your paint reacts to the clear if its the cheap stuff. If you have already let it fully cure then scuff it up and go to town with the clear/flake. I ha e never used the paint you have selected so your test panel will tell you how to proceed.
Im kinda confused, did u stay purple or is the truck gloss black. Your flake colors on clear really got me interested in your work. I love shooting with guns but i want to do your work with brushes or rollere. The coach painting method
I ended up having to go back to black due to not being able to match the front clip months later, the flake has to be shot the whole truck at one time if you don't use full coverage its very hard to match. Atleaste it was for me. So sanded it back down then I redid the black base only. Right now its gloss black. After I do the engine and suspension I will redo the flake, this time shooting the whole truck. I loved the purple flake.
I put the hose over my shoulder when clearing top panels,and to stop getting strips angle the gun more don't spray directly over hood and that'll stop that stripping
Thank you for the tips 👍 I did both during the next test and got things right. I should have also measured the flake better, i could not match the color and flake mix so had to start over. I did get a good finish round 2 on the whole front clip with the materials selected. I go over the new game plan in my latest video.
As a professional auto painter for over 20 years I've done my fair share of custom paint jobs and I'm a bit confused on your choice of materials, not ideal even on a budget, spraying clear over that ruff uneven surface will be a big mistake, always cross spay in both directions when applying any metallic additive, all surface defects are absolutely magnified when clear is sprayed over them, the smoother the better, I think you just made more problems for yourself than solutions but good luck with your project.
Thank you for the tips, they are appreciated 👍.
I did a follow up test and got it right in the next video. My reason for working with cheap materials is due to knowing I will waste it while learning. I can always sand and start over, its only time.
You got to learn someway. But automotive paint would have worked so much better and less work
You can tell he’s just a beginner
I do not disagree with you. This was more of a can i do it type of thing then anything else. I have used a similar process with Rustoleum on furniture which came out fantastic. I figured why not try the truck its cheap and I can always fail until I get it.
@@thisoldhooptie I appreciate your enthusiasm in wanting to do it yourself but DUDE!!!!!! Sorry, I've been painting cars for about 17 years, do some research and quit being trying to be cheap, use the proper equipment and materials. You will never get a decent paint job the way you are doing it. And don't say I can just sand it, that is an absurd amount of time wasted 👍🏻🤣
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Wondering what you used for primer... any suitable rusto products? Thanks
I used the rustoleum spray cans of self etching on exposed metal, and rustoleum spray cans of auto motive primer.
So you used acetone for thinner I did a truck last year and used lacquer thinner and it's an oil base I'm not sure what yours is I believe rustle in almost it is an oil base and it came out absolutely beautiful and everybody said you can't use lacquer thinner you have to use acetone far as I know acetone dries hotter than lacquer thinner and quicker I had no wet sanding whatsoever and then clear coated it with finish line three coats
Correct i used acetone with Rustoleum oil based paint. I was able to fix the mistakes made in this video on the next try. The problems were caused by my technique. That test video is in my playlist.
Try mixing Metalic's and Pearl's mixed in the reducer then turn air pressure up and step back a little bit and dust it over the paint then spray your clear
Do you mean only spray the clear coat reducer with the metallic and pearl mixed in? The dusting definatly works better with a larger amount of flake in the mix, I did that on my next try in my playlist. Im getting ready for try 3 in the next month all tips are greatly appreciated 👍
I put the Metalic flakes or pearl's mixed in reducer only and turn the air pressure on the gun up about 15lbs and gold gun about 18" and spray it on i call that dusting then I mix the clear normally and spray it on
The flakes and pearls always lay evenly for me and clear covers it like it should
@@timgiesin4025 ill give that a try on a test piece, thanks 👍
Another paint job I've done in the past is cobwebing or spider webbing to do that you need Lacquer not Acrylic Lacquer you also need a siphon spray gun and you put unmix Lacquer in the cup crank the air pressure up wide open step back about 18"-24" and spray the paint comes out of the gun in strings then a couple of coats of clearcoat wet sand smooth
Did something similar with no sprayer many years ago. Dipped an art brush and swung it at the piece in many directions. Then cleared over it with a brush. With enough coats it was sanded and polished. Came out pretty cool.
Probably be better off using Duplicolors cheap line of paint shop lacquers instead of a oil based paint like rustoluem. The UV properties would for sure hold up better with the duplicolpr paint shop line of paints. Its a little more expensive but its a off the shelf paint at $35 a quart and every autoparts store sells it. Autozone, advanced and oriellys. Hell I think Walmart sells it. The lacquer is considered hot (Faster curing) so it would definitely cure faster than the oil based paint and be way more compatible than oil based paint . Everything after that (after it cures) would work fine like in your vid.
Thanks for the tips. Ill probly grab a quart at some point and compare them. 👍
What i love about the rustoleum its cheap to play with at 45 per gallon. Once catalyst is added the uv issue is mostly gone and it cures fast. After the clear its no longer an issue. No fading or problems after 7 months in the Florida sun.
Hey how do you like the Fuji. I'm thinking about getting one. I just don't have a 220 outlet for a nice air compressor. But I do alot of paint. Mostly metal flake stuff. I'd appreciate any info you could give me. Thank you
Love it! Have done a few paint jobs from trucks to furniture. Very versatile with low overspray. Get the pps cup system from my video description and you have very easy cleanup too. Let me know if you have any other questions, its really a great setup..
@@thisoldhooptie thanks man! Appreciate the reply. The funny part is this is the exact color I wanna spray. It with a small amount of silver flake added
@@Bad-decisions-and-good-times Make sure you spray the whole thing in one go or take very good measurements of the amount of flake and the passes with the gun. I screwed up and could not match my test piece so had to go all black for a second go round. My kids furniture came out fantastic though. I learned a bunch which is worth every minute spent. Good luck with your project 👍
@@thisoldhooptie I'm stoked this is gonna help me out a tone. Being so potable and 110
I sprayed rustolium and diluted with acetone but didn’t use magic catalyst., it’s been on my project car for about 6 months and I planned to scuff it down and spray a bed liner on it., would that be a good idea or should I sand it all down to bare metal and do an epoxy
I sand then re spray right over the rustoleum. In my playlist this purple truck is now gloss black. Its been that way for almost a year no issues. The only way I k ow of that would cause complications is if the oil based paint is not fully cured. Or if you don't scuff enough so the bed liner has something to bite into for a mechanical bond. Another issue would be if you painted a very thick layer of the rustoleum you can end up with cracking due to to much material. You can paint right over as long as its not crazy thick, not cured, or very smooth. Good luck 👍
@@thisoldhooptie it has a few coats but not a thick coat. I was hoping I didn’t have to take it all down to bare metal I sprayed under the dash as well hoping it would keep my project from flash rusting. Why did you go from the purple flake to gloss black? The purple was awesome 😆
@@juanchavez7274 sounds like you good to just scuff with 220 then re shoot with the bedliner. As for the purple to black question its temporary. Due to being new to painting perls, and flake at that time I was unable to match the back half to the front so I went to all black untill I had more time to re do the flake all in one shot. Im building myself an s10 to use while I ls swap, add full air ride, then re flake the c1500 purple. Not giving up just need another ride to use while its under the knife 😁
How much base coat did you use? I've got an obs truck in rough shape. Needing to be sanded to the metal and primered than I'm using a single stage to spray. Do you think one gallon is enough? Wont need to spray bed as it's already been sprayed with liner.
The way I thinned the rustoleum with acetone, yes one gallon was enough to do do the whole truck. Whats the mix for your single stage paint? If it's reduced enough should be fine.
@@thisoldhooptie 8-1 is the ratio for the product I'm using.
@@chrimson8598 Pretty sure you will need more then a gallon for 2 or 3 good coats. Under 2 gallons though. You can try using primer close to the color of your top coat to minimize things.
@@chrimson8598 I used just under a gallon at 4 parts paint 2 parts acetone. 2 coats did the trick for me.
@@thisoldhooptie Thanks appreciate the follow up. I'm using a gray epoxy primer and Gray paint. First time doing it. Kinda wish I knew about this Rust-Oleum option as it is probably cheaper to learn the process.
Hi. If you live in Quebec, activator and harder you use to make sure is made for a long time?
Catalyst or hardner in the paint, yes, it ads some protection like a single stage paint. The hardner in the clear must be used, or it never hardens. I'm pretty sure that's what you're asking. Let me know 👍
@my project life: what your answer? What product that I want to use for season in Canada Quebec please?
The products are listed in the beginning of the video and the description of this video. The paint and catalyst in my video work any season. The amount of time between coats depends on your local temps. For the clearcoat, you will need either fast, slow, or medium activator depending on what weather or season you use it. The times I used were based on 90 degree weather with high humidity.
Do the roof first... Then spend a little more on some quality materials and you get a better finish and less work and peel
Thank you for the tips. 👍This is a budget project just to see if it can be done. I did get the issues resolved in my next try. First time painting something not flat on a table. 😁
I’m not sure if it’s your mic but you’re air pressure seams like it’s a bit high and by the looks of your coverage on one pass I guess you like a lot more product flow so I guess that explains the higher air pressure
I do shoot the paint on the thicker side. I seem to get less runs this way. Im going to try a more thinned mix to see if I can get less orange peal. Im still learning 👍
How long did you wait to spray the clear coat after spraying the rustoleum?
I believe it was 30 minutes in this one. It's depends on the temp and humidity. That info, along with the times, should be stated verbally in the video while painting. I have a follow-up to this video where I got a perfect finish with the flake. That one also has the times, along with what is used verbally while I'm painting. 👍
nice
Thanks 👍
Got to get down low to get the rocker panels on a OBS Chevy they curve under so much.
Oh yeah.👍 I am making some wheel cribs to lift the truck up for this in the future. Once the bags go it it will sit even lower.
Dude that looks like crap..................jus kidd'n, very ingenious, looks good amazing what you can do with low cost materials.
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Thanks i think 🤔👍this was my first try ever painting a vehicle. I did enjoy the process and learn from it, in my book thats all that counts. I did get it right on try two which is in my playlist. I still screwed up by not being exact and keeping measurements. When I went to match the next panel it was a total failure. I went back to black and will re do this with what I learned after the ls swap and air suspension goes in this comming year. Happy holidays 😁
How do u guys like the miny mite spray system
I love mine. Sprays anything from cabinets to trucks. Very little over spray compared to a compressor setup, same goes for the the noise and space.
🔥👀What kinda purple is that? I'm Bout to get my El Camino painted this same color without the flakes though
Its purple flake over Black letting some black show through. Items used are in the description of the video. If your looking for something close in paint Google violent Violette ss or firemist purple they are close without the flake.
@@thisoldhooptie THANK YOU SO MUCH ❤️💪🏿🙏🏿😁👍🏿
@@markellrobinson4447 No problem, good luck with the Elcamino. Thats a nice ride and those purples will look sweet!
If you let the rustoleum sit longer itll smooth out and get rid alot of that orange peel
Thanks for the tip👍
Water based clear coat over over an oil based base coat in my opinion is not the best way to go.
I would use Upol Clear to avoid future issues.
Thanks for the tip 👍
Bad Ass🔥🔥🔥
Thank you 👍
Can you do my truck? Same way. Flawless.
Thank you 😁 Well it was not exactly flawless, but it did come out great the next time around. I too love this color. You should grab a cheap spray setup and give it a go. Its fun to play around until you get it.
I'm afraid of but it only one coat black . I will do 2 coat black and 10 min and do flake on soon .
That makes sense 👍
Nice 💪🏾 🔥 wat tha lil blue box
Thank you 👍 thats a Fuji mini mite pro 5 turbine spray setup. They are portable spray guns for painting just about anything. Sound like a vacuum and no huge compressor to take up space.
@@thisoldhooptie so i could have got 1 of them instead of buyin a 1700 80gallon compressor
@@thabigghomie_ Well yes and no. I had all battery powered tools like sanders, impact gun, and everything else. So for me to just add that for $1200 was worth it. I also take it with me to restore houses and condos which I could not have done with a big compressor.
How long did you let the Rust-Oleum paint cure before you put the clear over it
I believe it was 15 minutes depends on how hot and humid that day was and how much catalyst and acetone. Some times i let it sit longer some times shorter. The times are listed in each video right after spraying that coat i give the flash time used.
Okay thank you so much for getting back to me and you're doing a great job on that truck love it doing mine with black Rust-Oleum and want to give it a clear over off the same clear you got
@@keenejunk697Thank you 😁 Your project should come out like my door inners only more glossy and safe from the sun with the clear. I left the inners black because I will probably paint the truck again later in the year after its done. This truck is like my test piece to learn and have fun with. Im going to do a lace job on the roof too. Good luck with yours
I meant to ask I bought a gallon of clear would that be enough to do the truck 1989 Dodge ram D100 short bed or do I need another gallon thanks
@@keenejunk697 Hey bro, are you doing flake and clear or just black then clearing that?
Catalyst for dry up or glossy?
It will add some shine and make the paint harder faster.
Looking cool, but i can see you gun has heavy bottom spray pattern. That also why you tigerstripe
Yes I believe i had a clogged cap in this video. I swapped it to a larger cap in the next test which came out much better. Wish I new that since I didn't do full coverage of the flake it would be very hard to match the next panel. Live and learn round 3 will be after I do the rear suspension and the bed is back on. I have learned alot over the last year from all the painting tips , thanks! 👍
How long did you wait to add clear to the paint
I believe it was 15 minutes depends on how hot / humid the day is and how much catalyst / acetone. The times are listed verbally in each video right after spraying that coat, i give the flash time and all amounts of each item in the video.
Ok thanks so much
@@manuelmejia76 No problem 👍
Where did you get the metal flake and what is it called
Didspade purple 0.008 i believe. The amazon link is in the description of the purple painting videos.
Thank you
Looks like you are painting in a join garage to your house… how about the smell??? I’m thinking about it but scarred of the smell.
The trick is to turn the ac units off to the house if they are in the garage. If the interior door has good weather strip that will keep everything out. Then make sure you have some air flow. The air pushing in or out from the side door quickly flushes out one way or the other. The smell and the clear over spray goes out pretty fast.
Man that gun puts out a wide fan...
I have been very happy with the Fuji spray setup. First time doing a truck with furniture and doors, it has been great. In this video there was a small blockage which gave me the stripes in the hood. I got a larger tip and fixed it in the next video. That test came out perfect.
@@thisoldhooptie yes it's impressive, Especially for an all in one package. I believe if I were using it I'd experiment with slower cure solvent and hardeners. The air it puts out has to be warmer/hot than a traditional tanked compressor, heated air could cause orange peel problems. Food for thought. The purple flake over the black looks awesome.
@@scottcoleman162 Thank you for the tip! Thats one of the things I like sharing my projects with others. People with more experience or knowledge who choose openly share it. Your the second person to tell me that. I actually ordered slow for the next batch of clear instead of medium. I plan on testing that in the next few weeks. Less peel, less sanding that sounds good to me. 😁
Looks good but may want to turn air pressure down a bit a move slower. It will help on orange peel.
Thank you for the tip, I'll give that a try👍
On mini mite fuji stage 4??
It turbine
@@warrenglover correct, its a fiji spray minimite 5 platinum. you can turn the pressure down with the knob on the whip hose.
@@thisoldhooptie I thought supposed be wide open? Or for 2.0 mm?
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Cand find you items used list???
Check the description for this video. Everything used in every video is listed there.
What type of air system is that?
Its an upgraded kit I put together from x2industries.com ill find the link and post it here.
Sorry i thought you meant the air ride setup I purchased. Its a turbine sprayer from fuji. The model is mini mite pro 5.
Everything in the whole damn garage looks like it got farted on by a stripper now. Purple sparkle ALL the things!
Oddly enough, no purple flake got on anything except the truck and floor. Guess I'm just lucky
There's a lot alot of orange peal and tiger stripes
Yes there was, that's why I re did it. Check my playlist the next test came out perfect. I am learning by doing. I have never painted a car or truck before. Thanks for watching.
I will give this paint job about a month or 2 before the paint cracks and shrinks like foil. That clear coat will not chemically adhere properly to that type of paint, Furthermore this is a 3 stage painting process 2k products is just a waste of money on cheap oil based paint. I'm not judging just giving useful information that I learned in School. My Modo is " if I'm going to take time to do something, I might as well do it right". For when you need to redue your paint, Nassan and cromax make great black car paint that's designed to chemically adhere to 2k products. and it thats too expensive look into waterborn paints... Good Day and Good LUCK MAN!
Thanks for the info. The oil based paint had a catalyst added which is why it works. People have clearcoated over oil for the last 40 years. Ussually they wait for the paint to cure them scuff and clear it. I have used the same paint job on furniture and it lasts fine indoors. The question was would the combo of catalyzed oil based paint and the clearcoat keep the uv at bay? So far this truck sat for 7 months in the Florida sun. No issue at all. I polished the hood and showed how things turned out last month. My only real problem was not keeping accurate track of how much flake I used. Since I'm new to painting this way, this was my downfall. I could not match the panels. I sanded down and went all black again then reassembled the truck for round 3. Truth be told just want to see how it turns out. Pass or fail it will be posted for all to see. Im just having some fun.
Great paint job that you did, But don't you have neighbors to complain with all that overspread coming out of your garage in the neighborhood, ??
Using a turbine sprayer there is very little over spray. Unless I were to spray it in the air standing by and facing the open garage not much if any makes it out side. Definatly can't tell I'm even painting if your in my driveway. I have a white house and to date nothing has even gotten on the walls around the door.
OK very cool thank you for your response back I appreciate that keep up the great work
What catalyst do?
Catalyst helps the paint dry faster.
Whare can I get that flake
The link is in the description of the video.
What compressor are using????
Fuji spray mini mite pro 5. Its a turbine sprayer. The thing is awsome once you get used to it.
@@thisoldhooptie thanks it sound good not to loud
@@franciscoespino3569 exactly thats one plus the others are its portable, you get zero water in the line, and it takes up little space. They have many models i chose this for house and car projects its can do a whole range of projects and sounds exactly like a shop vac.
@@thisoldhooptie thanks for rhe tip am look on getting one nice job on the paint it came out nice
@@franciscoespino3569 thank you. Zero complaints on the sprayer. Good luck on your project and if you have not already, checkout my updated video on the front clip paint job a couple months later. I fixed any flaws in the job. Practice makes perfect. Now I'm ready for the whole deal. 😁
Looks like a tablespoon not teaspoon?
Its a teaspoon. I ended up adding more to get my desired effect.
Only one coat of paint?
I ended up doing two coats of black, 2 coats of flake and clear and 4 coats of clear over that. I had to redo this to work the issues out. Due to using a colored flake could not sand out the runs and had some striping on the hood.
@@thisoldhooptie cheers I saw the redo on the front, turn out good mate
Thank you 👍
Breaking the law on youtube video's. Shooting oil based paints with thinners is illegal in most states. In my area is required the use of a certified paint booth and code enforcement look at paint booths all the time. Easy catch for an easy violation and fine.
Thank you for the heads up. Every state has its rules, I am not breaking any laws where I am.
@@thisoldhooptie sure your not.
Since this is obviously an important topic for you, you're welcome to take a few minutes and post the states have the rules you are referring to. Include the Statutes, Ordinances, and or Regulations, so other interested parties could look them up.
This is the guy on the block that turns everybody in for trying to do there hobbie...I know these type of narcs.... for the .005 % of people that wana paint our own cars at home leave us the f%$# alone cry babe. I hate your type
Dude just turn your tv on. Reality tv is based on breaking laws
Why use acetone it kills gloss use thinners/ reducer
Acetone is the recommended thinner for rustoleum paints. By adding catalyst you get the shine back along with a few other benefits.
@@thisoldhooptie I work in the paint industry in Australia, acetone is a very volatile solvent ( nail polish remover ) isn't rustleum an enamel paint from memory I would use enamel thinner you can still add an hardener
@@waynegrosvenor9699 The way I understand it is each type of thinner has different dry times or are effected by humidity and temp. I could be wrong im just going by what the manufacturer recommends. Rustoleum recommends on the back of the can to thin with acetone. I have seen others use mineral spirits, reducer, and paint thinner. Rustoleum is an oil based or enamel paint yes. For me in the hot humid climate I live in the mix works great. The flaws in this video were user error from being new to automotive painting. Also I never added flake to that big a project. I have some furniture I did in one of my playlist that was done over a year ago. Its clearcoated and shinny as the day I painted it. My kids are ruff on it and no flaking or damage has occurred. After another retry I got the flake done right on the truck front clip but couldn't match the next panel since I did not measure and was not using full coverage. I have since gone back all black and will be re doing the flake later this year or beginning of next year. I wanted to devote some time to learn how to install and trouble shoot the ls engine. Thank you again for the tips and info 👍
Cover your nice toolboxes please
I'm working on a pull around cover curtain setup. Its getting a bit tight in there.. So far after multiple paint jobs zero paint on them except the little black I spilled on the work top. The fuji setup really is very good with over spray. Fantastic for kitchen cabinets, furniture, and Indoor use.
@@thisoldhooptie that is a good idea! I ruined my moms garage lol and I also know how much those bad boys are
@@entropathicc I know some people love ultra clean show garages, and there is nothing wrong with that. For me its a work space, I dont mind it looking like one. The clear coat and metal flake does find its way further then the base paints. That is why I started looking for a solution. 👍
@@thisoldhooptie in my experience there is a shit ton of paint that doesn’t get on the project lol
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Hi , how many drop catalyst for 4:1to 1?
I'm going do deep purple flake like you do
Since the paint is going to be thicker it may or may not change. The catalyst is added 1 can per gallon of paint. I used 2 ounces for a 4 to 2 mix which seemed to work out well. Try 2 oz of catalyst on a test piece to see how quickly it dries. This may effect laying the clear over if your trying to use the times I did in my videos. In my opion I would use less paint and more acetone if I were to try another mix. The thicker the paint longer it takes to dry and more peal if it dries faster then it flattens. Good luck 👍
If you use the same details as layer out in the video where I mentioned the mistakes and how I fixed them the only thing needed will be a cut a buff there will be some peal from covering the flake. If you are new to flake or shooting vehicles the angles make it tougher then shooting a flat surface. Test your setup first on something metal then go for it. Do the whole thing in one shot and keep very precise measure of the amount of flake used so you can match things later.
@@warrenglover click in my playlist you will see a second video showing the mistakes from this video after this one. It shows how I resolved those issues.
@@thisoldhooptie yes you bet ..
Ruff, ruff.
It was, i did get it right in the next try. Its been fun learning though. Lots of sanding 😁
Will i have paint a few need to stop dry sprayings it don't be scared and try a little rhythm that may help as well see I don't believe it wet sand and buffing If I wet sand the clear I reclear it
@@robertmeyer5797 The less I sand the better after all this 👍
Great job but its PURPLE WTF
Thanks 😁 the color was selected by my 5 year old daughter to match the outerspace theme she chose on the inside. Thats in my playlist and done if you have not seen it already. This truck will probly be painted a few times over the next couple years once I have the process down perfect. This is also why I selected to used budget materials.
Boat paint?
For me it was always gocart and furniture paint. I guess you could paint a boat too. 👍
Paint from top down roof first
Solid tip! Thank you 👍
Are you a profesional ppainter tankyou
No I am playing around with cheap rustoleum paint in the garage.
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I'm watching video 📹 👀 😍
Did you get any testing done? How did it turn out?
@@thisoldhooptie I'm fighting keep sun away my truck . It very hot . But my shop might be fix but it little tight in side. My truck body 155 ° ,paint going burn up
@@thisoldhooptie I'm waiting for little bit sun go down
@@thisoldhooptie try get everything ready , primer.
@@warrenglover wow that is very hot. Is that first thing in the morning or after noon? I had to paint at 830am while it was under 100 degrees outside.
What?
Who, when, why 😎
you're trigger on gun seems wrong stopping on each stroke. you need to flow. you lift the trigger to the paint stops flowing but air still comes out its a fast flowing movement you lift off the trigger as you come to end of each panel stroke as you come back on you press so you not getting overlap. also using 2k in a garage that contains isocyanide seems bloody wrong. you get shut down in uk using that stuff with no filtered spray booth. its lethal
Thank you for the tips 👍
Over here, you're allowed to paint in your garage as long as it's not for business and under a certain amount of paint per year.
yes was not been hard on you. each country has different rules. make sure you use a low VOC. when we use it in a spray booth it still takes over 2 min for the toxics to disperse between coats all tested. just be careful mate for you're own health to use a good mask. good luck 👍@@thisoldhooptie
@topbanana4013 No worries 😁
I always use good filters in the mask. Also, my air conditioners are off, and nothing is pulled into the house. When I'm done, I clear out the garage with all the doors open and fans. I do need to set up a few more fans under the garage door so it pulls the air out a bit more. The setup I have has minimal over spray but does get foggy with the clear coat. It took a few tries to get the painting right. Still need to redo this paint job. I got the process down now. I have an updated video on that. I could not match the panel on my second try. I only shot the front end. Next round, I will do the whole thing in one shot, and it should be great. In the meantime, I shot the whole thing black so I could enjoy it for a bit.
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Im sorry but u dont thin paint with acetone ever!
Actually its recommended by Rustoleum its an oil based paint. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.rustoleum.com/-/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumUSA/TDS/English/CBG/Automotive/ATO-60_Acetone_TDS.ashx&ved=2ahUKEwjAxoabo6T5AhUtRjABHW50CCYQFnoECC4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3SWDdmQ0yvjNWGnXafqIv2
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I know, gotta start somewhere though. I did get it right on the next try. That test is in my playlist, came out great. 👍
How did it come out ?
Or it too dry for flake on there ? 🙄
If you left it over night you need to let it fully cure before the flake or it may react. Did you use a hardner/Catalyst or just the oil based paint?
@@thisoldhooptie Lacquer thinner
@@thisoldhooptie I have catalyst for 2 coat
@@warrenglover if your shooting clear over oil based paint right away you need something like magic catalyst in the oil based paint if uts fresh. If not you need to let that cure or it will curls up.
That is to thin the paint. It is not a catalyst.