Modified Mazda 6 MPS vs Accord Type S
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- Today I up the anti and see how my Accord Euro compares with my good friend's modified Mazdaspeed 6 (Mazda 6 MPS).
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CL9 Modifications:
- ECU Reflash
- Custom Cold Air Intake
- PLM Headers
- Yonaka 2.5" Catback Exhaust
- DC5 Type R Gearset
- Hawk Performance Brake Pads
- Tein S-Tech Lowering Springs
- Sparco DS1 18x7.5 +48 Wheels
- 225/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE003's
- Flow Designs Australia Lip Kit
- Type S Grille
- Euro R Shift Knob
- Modulo Sports Kit and Spoiler
MPS Modifications:
- Jamex Lowering Springs
- TBC 19" Wheels
- Aftermarket Bumper, Bonnet and Spoiler
- Larger Intercooler
- Accessport
- Intake with BOV
- Short Shifter
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:17 Exterior
1:21 Interior
2:16 Drivetrain
3:24 Rolling Races
3:41 Mazda 6 MPS Driving Experience
5:50 Accord Euro Driving Experience
7:30 Outro
Thanks for Watching! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Great comparison vid. Was waiting for this one!
Thanks!
I was waiting for this video a loong time. Had 7gen Accord Type S and I loved that car but ever since I drove in 6 MPS I fell in love with it. Now I finally managed to get my hands on a 2gen 3 MPS and I'm in love with this car. Accord was an awesome car but MPS got me everything that I missed on the Accord. Hope you can get a 2gen 3 MPS for a video too 🙏
Yeah the mps is a nice upgrade huh
I am stuck between a 3 and 6 MPS, what made you go for the 3 in the end
Definitely one of the cars I was considering when shopping for my tsx/accord euro. Best part is it has double wishbones in the front just like the cl9.
Yeah that's true
YESSSS I HAVENT WATCHED YET AND I KNOW ITS GONNA BE A BANGER
Haha yuuuurs
@@KiwiCarLife the mps sounds like its got a blow off valve along with the intake
Great review, love both cars 👍🏼
Lovely vehicles indeed
Oh and I better comment that I enjoyed the vid, keep them coming!
Haha thanks man!
This channel is right up my alley
Good to hear!
Awesome comparison! Really want to drive a Speed 6 now. Reminds me of a Legacy GT Spec B! God I wish they still made them.
Thanks man! Yeah hopefully gonna film a legacy spec b video
Love that speed 6, looks great
Yeah it's quite nice, very aggressive
Is that a Evo 7 wing on that Mazda? Just why, it looks terrible.
Not sure tbh
That bumper throws me off as well
If only they stopped several modifications ago the car would look great
Ye, the Evo wing on Mazda is a bit over do it, might try the RX7 wing that might work?
@@customregina9383 yo which rx7 wing you talking about bc I wanna put a wing on mine but idk which one will look good on it
Love my MS6! Picked up a steal last year with 22k miles on it, now 28k. Very very clean example here too!
Very nice!
Man i was a msp6 sooooo bad. Love them sooo much m
Would be interesting to see a comparison between the Mazda Speed 6 and a manual Legacy GT sedan or a B4 👌🏼
Great content as usual bro!
Yeah true that could be interesting
Nice video. Nothing like an all motor high revving Honda!
Indeed
The Mazda 6 MPS is a nice car, but this one is overdone. It's too boy-racer-ish with all the cosmetics. The bumper and lipkit are ok, but all the fins and doodads detract from the styling imho.
I guess to each his own.
Yeah fair enough
I love your speed6 man. Only thing is the wing personally but everything else looks greaaaaaattt
Yeah the wing is quite obnoxious haha
This video is so professional looking. Good job man!
Thanks so much man!
Amazing, honda accord and mazda 6.. pure 10
Yessss
Glorious indeed! :D
Oh yes
That bov sound is awesome, reminds me of gran Turismo 2 turbo cars
Oh yeah it was sick haha
Thanks for including hp and lb.ft !! Just give us longer racers, the two races in this video felt too short!
Can't really... speed limits
Mazda 6 is a lovely car . The styling in stock form is my kind of car, under the radar and a lovely family sedan, these just had too many reliability issues here in south africa, hence my decision to still stick with the accord . Great video.
Cheers and yeah I had no idea but a lot of people are suggesting they are a bit fragile
I got a Mazdaspeed6 2007 with 200k km on it! It drives ok and never gave me a problem! more reliable than a Subaru WRX at least! Honda makes boring cars and i tried a Type R and got rid of it soon
@@dacoda6668 could be . How ever the amount of people breaking the transfer casing on them as well as pistons going through blocks is shocking. I suppose if kept stock I think it could be a reliable daily . Then other thing I don't like is the economy. Can't live with it .
@@waseembux7537 There are people putting 700hp through a standard MS6 transfer case, what on earth are you on about?
Yeah early tuners found the rod limit limits pretty quick. It isn't a reliability issue, but if you want to spool a turbo that hard that early in the rpm range you eventually break something.
Yeah in speaking to the owner he admitted they do have weak points...
one of the best sounding i4 turbo engines has to be the n14/18 found in the mini r56, especially with the jcw exhaust.
Yeah they're not bad... bit tinny sounding
I know it’s a bit of a trip, but have you considered visiting cl9euro in Melbourne? Seems like he has a collection of body kits that would make good content. The modulo voltage is my favorite cl9 front 😎
Yeah I'm in contact with him. Might come over at some point
Considered a mps 6, only downer was the front wheel biased awd setup. Accord with lsd and hondata tune will be just as quick as the 6 untuned if not faster at the expense of fuel economy. Had a k24 swap with tuned with 500nm, was on par with v8s.
Yeah agree
Its time to turbo the accord Liam!
Haha dunno about that...
I've wanted a Mazdaspeed 6 for years and I'm almost there, a month or three of saving to go! I cant friggin wait!
Awesome man!
Oh man I'm so exited! i just hope that by that time, there's one for sale with a sunroof, those are super rare here in The Netherlands. There's on for sale right now but there's no chance it'll still be up in 3 months.
Guess what, I bought it, its mine now!
Awesome bro!
Looked at a Mazda MPS but the 2.3 is a pretty delicate engine with a few failure points and not that reliable...brought a NZ Euro Tourer instead and couldn't be happier. Yes the MPS is faster but in the real world of speed limits and traffic congestion, give me the Honda
Yeah but when you hit open road a Honda Fit can keep up :p
Nah the euro is just solid. Even NA the Mazda is a thirsty car. Wouldn't want to run the MPS as a daily at the moment.
Yeah good call
What are you on about? The motors are very reliable and little to none common failure points.
@@Jaredscott89 rod bearings have left the chat
just need to build the bottom end. indestructible!
Vtec kicked in yoooo
Oh yeah
Hey mate nice video , wanna see a review on Honda airwaves
Cheers man! Will see
The G37 skyline and R35 come off the same assembly line and both have 6 cylinders v6.. I'd love to see them two compared.. I know the r35 and g37 are wayyy way apart from each other and isn't worth comparing maybe.. but it would surely bring views since we all would love to see that.. aye folks
Could do... Would have a hard time getting them together
That mazda 6's sound is amazing imo. That turbo just sounds amazing, but with a turbo 2.3l from a mazda I am not sure about the reliabilty especially with that 4WD system, and in Australia you can't go 4kmh above the speed limit with a $400 fine. So tbh I would probably choose the accord, but if the mazda 6 is reliable I MIGHT choose otherwise.
thats why the mps is a weekend car not a daily
@@trippy_bananaz638 Euro is a daily.
Unfortunately the Mazda MPS engines have a few failure points. A friend of mine is a mechanic and got one, he didn't hold onto it for long before selling it. Says they come through the shop all the time with similar issues - leaking oil or chewing up oil. I mean you are dealing with a turbo engine rather than a NA Honda engine which are known for reliability. Always comes at a cost unfortunately
@@BreeingIan my cousin has a mazda 3 mps hes had it since 150km on the speedo its now got 250km on the clock it does eat up oil but its a crazy car i mean it just puts u in ur seat
@@BreeingIan The Accord euro is fast enough for me, hell I am stoked by my Dad pushing a stock accord euro to 25% throttle
Excuse me but what is that front bar on the 6? Ducks Garden? Looks very very different from stock! I have so many questions as a fellow 6 owner, the valve cover breather on the rocker cover, what benefits are there compared to stock I've never seen it done like that despite being in the MPS game 2 years? Does he have upgraded turbo or still K04, whats his catch can setup?
The front bumper is a modified aftermarket one, still k04 turbo, don't believe he has a catch can
I got a Mazdaspeed6 2007! going strong at 200k km
Nice!
@KiwiCarLife having driven both, what would you choose between Mazda 6 MPS and legacy 3.0 spec.b, both 6 speed manual?
Legacy for sure
Spoiler of an sti mazdas are a nice car.
I love my 1 M though I think I’ll keep it
Oooh yes 1M excellent vehicle
A friend of mine bought a stock one of these back in the day when they were only a few years old and i drove it many times. While ok on the surface, the driving experience was anything but. That on-demand all wheel drive system was an absolute piece of crap. It needed too much slip to engage… and would quite often jolt when the rear kicked in and could easily mean you’d understeer at any corner if you weren’t prepared for it. You had to totally re-train your brain to drive around the all wheel drive system so the rear would engage BEFORE a corner, rather than during. I couldnt believe how un-natural it felt. And the clutch was like an on/off switch. On paper it offered a lot… driving it - no. Driving a Liberty/Legacy of the same era was night and day in my experience (for ‘equivalent’ all wheel drive)
Oh I dunno I thought it was pretty good
The factory awd engagement is always on, it never defaults to being open, it isn't designed like that. If the car was jolting under torque engagement you had worn out diff or rear motor mount bushings. If it was so bad to cause understeer, you either didn't have any bushing left or you can't drive and are carrying way too much entry speed (I would strongly lean toward the latter, its very common for amateur drivers). The equivalent Liberty of the time was slower and has worse understeer all else equal.
Tbh I do kinda see what he's on about thinking about it again. If you watch the place where I whip it onto a motorway onramp, the front inside wheel spins up quite a bit before settling again. Did a similar thing in a legacy 3.0R for an upcoming video and it just hauled through there with zero wheelspin. Most likely down to the fact the Mazda is FWD biased whereas the legacy is RWD biased. It's naturally a better setup imo
I’m getting the vibe he wanted an evo but decided mps was cheaper haha
Nah he was actually looking at a wrx crouching tiger
now i finally choose the car i want i am gonna get a accord
Good choice!
Mazdaspeed 6 all the way!
Good vehicle
where can we find the mazda front bumper and the spoiler please ?
Not sure sorry
Everyone saying the Mazda is over the top and ridiculous, I actually love it 😀. Yes very boy-racer, but it's got the specs to match it. Different strokes for different folks. Personally, I dig it.. even the wing 😎
Yeah I think it's unique and cohesive
Agreed mate think it looks mega
MPS is much faster than the Euro R, I know because my dad had a modified one with 578hp to the wheels. They come with 270 plus stock, AWD.
Well yeah obviously?
Mazda 6 MPS❤️
Good vehicle
where to buy modding parts for cars in New Zealand?
Trade me, Facebook marketplace, speedscience
you should review a lexus is350
Got it in the works!
Turbo engines have a deeper sound. Non turbo engines are higher pitched sounding. I like both.
Yeah definitely
did you detune your accord?
didnt it have like 240hp? or something.
The measurement was wheel horsepower. I think they generally substract like 10-15% transmission losses. At the crank it could be making that amount.
202whp so yeah maybe 230 crank. This Mazda will be making 300 crank easy and way more torque
Except for the wing which for me this looks amazing
Wouldn’t care to treat it as a cruising car
Would I rather have this than the accord?
Need to drive one 1st
Yeah drive it first
try out a mazdaspeed protege, if im remembering correctly the power is about the same as your accord stock for stock despite the mazda being a turbo
i’ll add the mazdaspeed protege was from 03 so just a few years before the speed6 was a thing, older interior in trade for turbo noises?
Could be interesting to check out!
For the Mazdaspeed6 I have one and I’m looking for the wing spoiler
I think it's an Evo spoiler
my dream car mazda speed 6 im saving up for it rn, i have acord but 2,2l love it but need more powerrr xD.
Would recommend
buy 2.4 accord then who the hell buy diesel Honda xd
@@redliner999 its my first car needed something cheap got a good deal on it, i wanted 2,4 but it was out of my budget.
where can you find this Bumper?
It's custom
What front lip do you have? It's maxton or something other?
Flow designs. Build list in the description
what is your honda accourd year version?
2006
The accord euro gearbox is hit and miss in my opinion, it sometimes feels very notchy and very mechanical sounding.. but mine could probably do with a rebuild haha
Yeah I’d say so all the ones I’ve driven have felt great
Idk if I can get my acura tsx AWD I will keep it and boost it to 400whp. It would be more realiable then the MSP 6 but the COST to modify my tsx is why im on the bloody fence.
Yeah man you’d have to import a CM3 Accord tourer from Japan. They come with K24A2 and Awd from factory
Mazda 6 has always Been a Nice Car
Their Beautiful
Their Big Cars
Honda Accord was another Nice car
Their Sporty
Their Sleek
Agree but please... It's they're
Can I ask where the front bumper and bonnet are from !?
Asked the owner, even he doesn’t know sorry haha
@@KiwiCarLife legit spent two hours tryna Google it. Nothing
I miss my is200. It handled well and the motor was responsive if you prodded the box the right way. Would be good with a 1uz, unfortunately isf's are too much vs a v8.
Gonna review a 3UZ swapped altezza shortly
That blowoff valve haha. Wow
Yeah it's quite loud lol
if you turbo an accord euro i swear itll make way more power than the mps and overall also cost way less coz mps is like 2-3x the cost of manual cl9
Nah absolutely not you can get an mps for 10k
My mps has 450hp and going for 600. Now that's power :)
I'm somehow surprised, every time with the sound comparison of cars...
For me, performance is far more important and interesting...
@@badboi6332 fair enough we’re all different
@KiwiCarLife yes, definitely.
For the weekend I would definitely prefer a nice sounding car with a beautiful engine to support the claim.
But as a daily, I would prefer to have a quiet, comfortable car ( good suspension, seating, reliability)...
I.e. a civic or corolla or something similar as daily, Fun car a WRX/ R Type / audi RS3 aaaand a luxury sedan or a wagon for long trips...
Unfortunately I can't even afford a proper daily 😅 in my universe 😂...
Where did you get the wings spoiler ?
No idea
is than an Evo 7 spoiler on the 6 MPS ?
Yes
Does anyone know what kind of intercooler the ms6 is using ?
Some aftermarket one
I reckon you should review a ae92 toyota corolla fx gt, if you can get your hands on one of course.
Great fun little cars!
Yeah maybe
Donde se puede conseguir ese parachoques delantero del mazda??
si
Who’s the owner of the MPS? Would love to speak to them about the car
The owner wishes to remain anonymous
Does anyone know what spoiler is on the mazda6speed?
Evo
One thing is depending on the exhaust the Mazda sounds exactly like a Subaru
Yup sounds quite similar haha
Do these Mazdas tend to rust there also?
Don't believe so?
I personally would choose your modified euro over that particular example of the MPS, not that the MPS is a bad car, but I am a fan of more subtle modifications.
I have owned my share of turbo cars and they are quick and fun, but give me a nice normally aspirated car these days!
Yeah fair enough
What hood is on the speed?🤩
Not sure sorry
Hey boss where abouts are you from
Wellington
my gen1 smokes mazdaspeed6 and gen2's , 220kw 300hp 490nm
PALMERSTON NORTH REP
Lovely
What spoiler is that
Evo I think
some say mazda speed 6 is Jeremy Clarkson's favorite car )
Some say... Doesn't mean they're correct
I would never put a spoiler of ANY kind on my MS6, even if someone paid me to do it. The whole appeal of a MS6 is to fly under the radar but this one says "arrest me" all over it.
Well yeah I guess
What would you have to do to your accord to make 350-400hp?
Forced induction
@@KiwiCarLife cheers because i was thinking of getting an accord any idea how much hp you can get these things to before you do engine swaps and things like that?
@@KiwiCarLife what is the cost of doing that
@@prisms902 If you want to make something really fast in a straight line, an Accord is not for you. Buy something factory turbo like an MPS or 335i.
@@KiwiCarLife im on ps so cant drive mps or 335i idk whats the best car i could get for money as a nsw p plater
What year is your Honda accord?
2006
Really can’t find it
@@johnlegitkicks might be an Acura TSX in your country
@@KiwiCarLife oh okay I’ll look it up now and thanks for the help
Shame Mazda didn’t quite nail the mechanical quality with the MPS 6.
Yeah hahah
Exterior styling I find kinda -interesting- horrible .....
Each to their own of course !
Lol
Possibly the best Accord ever made, after that gen they went to shite quite frankly.
New 2.0T is good. Cu2 is good
Turbo Accord ?
Bro that’ll be sick
Would be cool but nah I'd rather buy a factory turbo car
Problem with the Mazda MPS is reliability - my Subaru Legacy 3.0R SpecB is 6 speed manual, sounds far better and is probably just as quick as the Mazda and its more reliable and you get AWD with 50/50 bias as standard
Yeah a lot of MPS fanboys on here would strongly disagree with that but I agree that the legacy's awd system is better. Got a video on the 3.0R coming soon
@@KiwiCarLife They can argue till the cows come home - the sound of a EZ30 with a cat back SS exhaust and a remap blows the Mazda out of the water.!
@@toffeepie1878 n/a always beats turbo for sound imo. Induction is sensational
@@toffeepie1878 Not even close, they're reliable enough to daily drive (I've done so modified for 10 years) and a good exhaust on the MS6 (unlike the one in this video) has a unique, aggressively deep, yet smooth rumble that still screams when wide open without rasp. Like the lovechild of an EJ25 and 4B11 with the best parts of both. I've yet to hear an EZ30 that doesn't destroy your eardrums with rasp while trying to imitate a 911, nor race one that can keep up after 2nd gear. I doubt anyone has ever asked if you had a V8 swap after a race.
@@Success.mp4 I would have a EZ30 over any Mazda, it has far better engine and a better AWD system and then there's the six speed gearbox. The EZ30 idles at 3k RPM doing 80mph, only ticking over and that exhaust I don't suppose you heard it with a cat back and raptors?
Turbo vs n/a also ... Apples to oranges. Plop a turbo on the k series and rematch.
Ok so who's paying for this?
@@KiwiCarLife I got $5 on it
@@KiwiCarLife lol th-cam.com/video/Dsct-TZ26Pw/w-d-xo.html
@@youtubeisinconsistent9169 well as it happens TH-cam sure is inconsistent! So much want, so little do...
@@KiwiCarLife turbo k series will dominate that mazda. Just sayin.
Bland drone, combined with constant farting. Charming.
In regards to which vehicle?
@@KiwiCarLife the Mazda.
@@paul--b Ah
you talking about driving accord but on video u show mazda outfit ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?? ? ? ? ? ? lol
No idea what you're on about
@@KiwiCarLife you Talking about accord driving and in the same time you showing mazda cuts. (Sorry for my Bad English im From Poland)
Mazda MPS=More problemS
Haha true
That car us definitely owned by a poly 🤣
Nah it wasn't actually haha
I swear every poly i meet is only into muscle cars, im like the only Tongan that owns a speed in my area😂😂
turbo the accord unless you already sold it 😭
Nah bro too much
You up the ANTE, NOT ANTI lol
Yesthat
The engine doesn't sound so badass because with turbo it doesn't have to work so hard to make power.
Nah it's coz turbo engines muffle the induction and exhaust sound dulling the tone. And Mazda engines in general just don't sound as good as Honda or Toyota n/a engines
Considering the 2.3 Turbo tends to blow even with proper maintenance I'd be too afraid to push it. Honda engines though, you can put the foot down whether 2 or 200K miles!
Yeah that's true
No not really, ive owned mine for 4 years only ever had my turbo blow out on me, i have a catless dp, 3 inch intake and im pro tuned, no serious problems so far🤷🏽♂️
Bro, you must get through some oil!
Nah not really
Sell the accord euro buy a mazda speed 6😉 too bad in my country we don't have this car
Hmm want a bit more of an upgrade than that...
Nah still pick vtec at least it dont chew frikin 10 lts of fuel above like turbocharged 4 cylinder id rather have vtec and still have the money to run it better. And its vtec why not
Haha I agree! Although the mazda was still a great experience
Dont get the mazda if you know absolutely nothing about cars and how to maintain them. the mazda needs to be taken care off. you can't just let it sit on the drive and expect to do the bare minimum. It needs care and attention. just like a puppy. Fucking amazing cars though. mines never failed as I do take care of mine.
Yeah true I suppose they need a bit more care than your average Honda
These things have more issues than national geographic..
Oh not really haha
That's a nice speed6 but all that crap makes it look like a bs ricer
Each to their own
@@KiwiCarLife I prefer a stock look with small exterior add ons and details that give the stock look a little more of a refinement to it