So today they showed the voge ds800 rally… looking fwd to seeing you review that soon. It looks so good hopefully we’ll get them here in the UK start of spring
It has grown on me I quite like it, some home servicing to save yet more money and speeds don't bother me, there's no middle or right lane on a dirt track.
Before i bought the bike i had watched this video. A little feedback. I am 13000 km on the clock. No problem whatsoever. 4500 km tour without a hitch. Greenlaining and dirt rides generally.
Just wanted to add something to the "affordability" category and something no one seems to mention. Parts prices. If someone is considering this bike and actually intends to use it on the dirt.... Then chances are, you are going to fall off an break things. So how does the little Voge compare to the Honda CRF for replacement bits.... Front mud Guard:. Voge £42. Honda £210. Gear lever: Voge £20 Honda £67. RH side cover/panel Voge £21 Honda £157. Let's say you fall off and some nasty big 4X4 runs over your wheels.... Voge, both wheels (complete Rims, Spokes & Hub) £496 Honda (complete, same as voge) Rear wheel (not available but the rim alone is £431 and the front wheel is £823. (So that's both Voge wheels for not much more that the rear wheel rim of the Honda. Voge: Get out and ride without a care. Honda: Best be careful. Nuff said.
I love mine but I'm not sure saying it is happy at 70mph is quite true. Mine feels happiest at 53mph. Above that I start to get wracked with guilt 🤣 Could do with some higher gearing for road use but I like the stock gearing for greenlaning. Dipped beam is perfectly fine, my high needs adjusting as its pointing at the sky 🤣 With regards to the tyres, they are actually deceptively good off road. It would go places on these that a Himmy needed TKC 80's to get up.
You've put me off, happy at 70 and I would of bought one. I want to off road and green lane but I also need to get to these places . 53 wouldn't cut it, shame.
With a change at rear sprocket from 48 to 44, you can cruise at 100kph (gps) at 6500 rpm all day long. Bur thats the limit. If you are using it mostly at b roads and off road, better stick to a 45 rear sprocket for better acceleration.
Ooh, dragonflies! Love it. Nice informative video. Very straight up. No bollocks. Some of these reviewers get a bit theatrical. Or stick loud music on. Im not in to that. Dragonflies are cool though.
Hi Mark thanks for the excellent review, brill. Service it yourself, it's very easy apart from the valve check. There has been a problem with the rectifier, but it's a very easy fix. Other than that it's a great bike. 👍
Rode one recently and this is the second one i have rideen and very impressive for the money its very attractive well balanced and stable suspension is surprisingly good and quite a peppy motor ergos are very good for me at 6ft i wouldn't need bar risers build quality is good it looks well finished but probably needs looking after to avoid corrosion...downsides are the vibes which are very noticeable and would become irritating something that you are stuck with.. awful seat so soft it sinks to nothing so you end sitting on the base obviously fairly easy to remedy.. screen is crap probably another easy fix..but a good effort at a good price
To me ( with the right tyres) this is the perfect adventure bike or the perfect trail bike depending on choice..it's a stunning design and looks " integrated" where the Honda rally 300 looks goofy. As a commuter. It would be fabulous with great visibility.. I'm definitely interested..Thanks for your honest review as always..price is phenomenal for level of finish etc..for me, the perfect back country lane ( potholed!!) Fun bike with easy off road fun.id change the exhaust for stainless if available and find some storage options and still have a cheap bike which I may be able to service myself due to lack of complexity..Great Bike!!
I quite like mild steel exhausts because stainless is over engineering imo. Mild steel one on my 125 learner bike had only a very small baffle rattle from inside when I sold it at 36k and 14 years old. This is a budget bike and I'm just glad it's not one of those cheesy looking fake carbon fibre end cans haha
Hi Mark, just came across your channel due to the videos of the Voge 300 RALLY. I'm a 2022 Himalayan rider currently (a bike I love) but looking for something a bit more adept off-road. I have questions about what you experienced with this bike, if you don't mind ? 1. On my Himmie the engine performance increased significantly as the kms piled on, so how many KMS did this bike have when you first got it and how many has it got now ? 2. During the above period, did you notice any 'freeing-off' of the engine and at what stage ? 3. Did you do any daylong rides with this bike and how did the comfort hold up ? and finally 4. Is there anything about the bike I should be aware of, during my negotiations with my dealer ? New model around the corner for example ? My thanks for these 'most excellent' videos on the Voge and I wish you well in all your endeavours, Dave.
Hi Mark, great review & your thoughts 🤙 Between this & the Zontes350T, which would you choose? We don’t get either here in Aus, but Voge global is gaining traction just like KOVE. A battle of the Chinese 😎
If I were a manufacturer, I wouldn't spend money on an exhaust that will ditched on day one for a cheap, illegal and super-loud aftermarket item. Exhausts on most bikes, could easily last the whole life of the bike, but will actually just be dumped at the back of a shed. Seems such a waste.
It's different in every country. Mostly because of competition with other brands. Simply not to lose too many sales because of that. It's silly. In Germany for example it's every 10.000 km, and only a small service. Because the Honda has the same service intervals. That's too long for me for a 300cc and I do an oil change every 5k by myself.
Well unfortunatly both are not available in Austria. I could get the Voge imported if i do want to. But no way to get the Kove 450 in the EU for now. What a shame... all these promisses but nobody realy delivers...
Please do delete the first two minutes and all the other instances where you fight off whatever is trying to eat you. Even better, redo this video all together without unfunny "digressions". Thanks.
I am really tall (197cm) when I hear people have problems putting their feet down - i am like: That's my bike!
The bike is very good! I was surprised by the suspension and the seat, very comfortable! Once you ride it, you feel you can go wherever you want
So today they showed the voge ds800 rally… looking fwd to seeing you review that soon. It looks so good hopefully we’ll get them here in the UK start of spring
It has grown on me I quite like it, some home servicing to save yet more money and speeds don't bother me, there's no middle or right lane on a dirt track.
Before i bought the bike i had watched this video. A little feedback. I am 13000 km on the clock. No problem whatsoever. 4500 km tour without a hitch. Greenlaining and dirt rides generally.
You are a professional motorcycle journalist, didn't twitch even ant 🐜 bit 😂
Just wanted to add something to the "affordability" category and something no one seems to mention. Parts prices.
If someone is considering this bike and actually intends to use it on the dirt.... Then chances are, you are going to fall off an break things. So how does the little Voge compare to the Honda CRF for replacement bits....
Front mud Guard:. Voge £42. Honda £210.
Gear lever: Voge £20 Honda £67.
RH side cover/panel Voge £21 Honda £157.
Let's say you fall off and some nasty big 4X4 runs over your wheels....
Voge, both wheels (complete Rims, Spokes & Hub) £496 Honda (complete, same as voge) Rear wheel (not available but the rim alone is £431 and the front wheel is £823. (So that's both Voge wheels for not much more that the rear wheel rim of the Honda.
Voge: Get out and ride without a care. Honda: Best be careful.
Nuff said.
nah that s dealer pats cost buy in thai and they are cheap too
Yes, good point, thank you for bringing it up.
I love mine but I'm not sure saying it is happy at 70mph is quite true. Mine feels happiest at 53mph. Above that I start to get wracked with guilt 🤣 Could do with some higher gearing for road use but I like the stock gearing for greenlaning.
Dipped beam is perfectly fine, my high needs adjusting as its pointing at the sky 🤣
With regards to the tyres, they are actually deceptively good off road. It would go places on these that a Himmy needed TKC 80's to get up.
You've put me off, happy at 70 and I would of bought one. I want to off road and green lane but I also need to get to these places . 53 wouldn't cut it, shame.
With a change at rear sprocket from 48 to 44, you can cruise at 100kph (gps) at 6500 rpm all day long. Bur thats the limit. If you are using it mostly at b roads and off road, better stick to a 45 rear sprocket for better acceleration.
Its a great bike for the money, quite a saving 😊
Ooh, dragonflies!
Love it. Nice informative video. Very straight up. No bollocks. Some of these reviewers get a bit theatrical. Or stick loud music on. Im not in to that. Dragonflies are cool though.
Hi Mark thanks for the excellent review, brill. Service it yourself, it's very easy apart from the valve check. There has been a problem with the rectifier, but it's a very easy fix. Other than that it's a great bike. 👍
I saw in another review that it requires E5 petrol, is this true? If so it’s not available in a lot of places.
@sergentcolon1 Hi the Voge 300 Rally runs on E5 or E10 makes no difference.
Rode one recently and this is the second one i have rideen and very impressive for the money its very attractive well balanced and stable suspension is surprisingly good and quite a peppy motor ergos are very good for me at 6ft i wouldn't need bar risers build quality is good it looks well finished but probably needs looking after to avoid corrosion...downsides are the vibes which are very noticeable and would become irritating something that you are stuck with.. awful seat so soft it sinks to nothing so you end sitting on the base obviously fairly easy to remedy.. screen is crap probably another easy fix..but a good effort at a good price
To me ( with the right tyres) this is the perfect adventure bike or the perfect trail bike depending on choice..it's a stunning design and looks " integrated" where the Honda rally 300 looks goofy. As a commuter. It would be fabulous with great visibility.. I'm definitely interested..Thanks for your honest review as always..price is phenomenal for level of finish etc..for me, the perfect back country lane ( potholed!!) Fun bike with easy off road fun.id change the exhaust for stainless if available and find some storage options and still have a cheap bike which I may be able to service myself due to lack of complexity..Great Bike!!
Absolutely!
Love this Little bike. Maybe someday...
I quite like mild steel exhausts because stainless is over engineering imo. Mild steel one on my 125 learner bike had only a very small baffle rattle from inside when I sold it at 36k and 14 years old. This is a budget bike and I'm just glad it's not one of those cheesy looking fake carbon fibre end cans haha
Hi Mark, just came across your channel due to the videos of the Voge 300 RALLY. I'm a 2022 Himalayan rider currently (a bike I love) but looking for something a bit more adept off-road. I have questions about what you experienced with this bike, if you don't mind ?
1. On my Himmie the engine performance increased significantly as the kms piled on, so how many KMS did this bike have when you first got it and how many has it got now ?
2. During the above period, did you notice any 'freeing-off' of the engine and at what stage ?
3. Did you do any daylong rides with this bike and how did the comfort hold up ?
and finally
4. Is there anything about the bike I should be aware of, during my negotiations with my dealer ? New model around the corner for example ?
My thanks for these 'most excellent' videos on the Voge and I wish you well in all your endeavours, Dave.
Hi Mark, great review & your thoughts 🤙 Between this & the Zontes350T, which would you choose? We don’t get either here in Aus, but Voge global is gaining traction just like KOVE. A battle of the Chinese 😎
Different bikes for different environments I would say. More offroad, some on road, the Voge. More road, very very little light offroad, the Zontes.
But Mark insects do love you (you taste like chicken) LOL
If I were a manufacturer, I wouldn't spend money on an exhaust that will ditched on day one for a cheap, illegal and super-loud aftermarket item. Exhausts on most bikes, could easily last the whole life of the bike, but will actually just be dumped at the back of a shed. Seems such a waste.
They need them to pass regulations, but they are so heavy so everyone dumps them asap.
Weight is important on a small adventure bike especially.
curious do you have an opinion on the exhaust?
Hi, I heard that electric system it's almost all Bosh. Do you have heard something about that?
first oil change at 500 km, second at 5000 km and then every 7500 km, according to the Service Manual for Italy.
It's different in every country. Mostly because of competition with other brands. Simply not to lose too many sales because of that. It's silly. In Germany for example it's every 10.000 km, and only a small service. Because the Honda has the same service intervals. That's too long for me for a 300cc and I do an oil change every 5k by myself.
Would you take this on a trip around Morocco?
@@fraserhouchen901 Can't see why not. How much of it is off-road?
@@motorsforthemasses mostly off-road.
It’s fascinating that a Kove 450 is available for just a little more ….
Tempted?
not a little more.. double the price
from 4k to 8k..
Well unfortunatly both are not available in Austria. I could get the Voge imported if i do want to. But no way to get the Kove 450 in the EU for now. What a shame... all these promisses but nobody realy delivers...
Service it yourself.
200 plus pounds to change the oil / filter and adjust the chain?!
Tell ‘em they’re dreaming.
Will that void your guarantee? I wonder what their policy is on that matter 🤔
yes yes and yes - now, Voge , just make a model with 46-48mm forks that are adjustable with adjustable shock, watch Honda crap itself
Your the same company that bigged up that crappy zontes that didn't last 2 minutes. 😂
Any way good review.
Zontes are still going ok....
LOL what a moan about an exhaust that 95% change anyway, and what a lot of digressing lol, thanks for the info.
Please do delete the first two minutes and all the other instances where you fight off whatever is trying to eat you. Even better, redo this video all together without unfunny "digressions". Thanks.
Yes master😅
It's kinda annoying, glad someone said it