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"(Sam Harris) initially employed this tactic by enraging Christians online, and continued it when he shifted his focus to Muslims. In 2017, he featured race "scientist" Charles Murray on his podcast. Mr Murray is the author of The Bell Curve, a book that attempts to link race and intelligence and intelligence to one's genetics, and which has appealed to some white supremacists. His appearance on Mr Harris's podcast was met with a mix of revulsion on the left and nodding approval on the right." Wonder why Sam Harris might be called a Jack booted Nazi? I just don't see it myself. Sam Harris may or may not be a Nazi twat, but he has fed the far right their fave morsel of pseudoscientific eugenics bullshit that they love. I mean, what's not to love about misinformation that confirms and validates one's deep seated irrational bigotry? Now surely you can't be such a fucking ignorant person to not understand that? Maybe you are. It's hard to tell.
I simply no longer trust the media to tell me anything, even the conservative media have shown themselves to have an axe to grind. I love the way Douglas Murray delivers facts in a way that he makes me think through them.
I call it the "post-truth", "post-factual" reality. We decide what we trust and nothing else is allowed to challenge that. It leads to a really bad place and we are well on the way there.
Stopped trusting the mainstream media a while ago. I scan to see if there has been any major calamities in the world, headline stuff. That is it. The BBC makes me more angry than I thought capable. There take on migrants makes me want to puke.
@@NaghtiesMaxinus he has a large platform with many hundreds of thousands, if not, millions of people around the world who want to know his opinion.. that's a pretty good position to be in for someone who wants to share their message.
And what position is that? Say it..he's a huge part of mainstream media...and he's really not doing anything special..people come for the sneering and stay for it.
@@johnscott6481 i don't live in the UK so i've never seen him in mainstream media, except as a guest on piers morgans show. Yes he sneers at times.. if you'd actually listened to what he was sneering about you'd see he has every right to.
@@PlanetaryCitizennobody will debates that sack of ….. he’s so far off the rails that any self respecting person stays the heck away from him. As they should. He’s not even a decent human let alone a decent anything else
I have a book on dog training printed in 1968 titled "Stop. Sit. Think." Imagine the world we have created where we look up to someone who tells people to think. Thank you Douglas Murray. I wish I was as brave.
@@goldbug7127 If you stop watching mainstream media and stop listening to politicians. You then learn to question everything you are told and you learn to think for yourself then propaganda doesn’t work on you.
“Point out the consequences, not their motivations, because you know the former, not the latter” is what I got out of this and it’s a very simple but powerful rule in a debate
Consequences of pro-choice. Women are unhappy. They are enslaved to a man/woman/corporate entity that will never care about them. They will have nobody next to their deathbed. What the freedom to work actually gave women was to choose between working 12 hours a day, raising children and managing the house....or working 8 hours a day for a corporate overlord that won't love them back, then try to manage the jobs that needed to be done in 12 hours with 4, and nagging the husband for being useless when they're just as tired, so by the end of the day, they can either choose to finish the 12 hours of childcare and homework by sacrificing 2 hours each of their sleep....or pushing the job to the next day and letting the tablet entertain your child. Womens liberation only uplifted the club players and made women just as miserable as men while competing for their jobs. And to top it off, women rarely date downward. So besides taking the job of the guy she would have married, she won't even consider to widen her perspective as a breadwinner
I would qualify that statement by saying that in many cases, you are more likely to know the consequences than the motivations. You have to be careful, because the world is a complicated place, and it is frequently difficult to know the consequences of actions. Unintended consequences abound.
@@Wodenson5150 You are confused. Matt said that he talks about the consequences, not motivations. It is certainly true that you should avoid talking about someone's motivations in a debate. Stick to the facts. Someone's motivations are not facts.
@@XJWill1 Agreed. Matt was saying not to discuss someone's motivations, because you CAN'T know their motivations, and if you guess wrongly, they can justifiably ignore your statement. If you argue that the CONSEQUENCES of their actions are bad, that's not so dismissable.
I heard the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" as a very young child. And the story of The Emperor Has No Clothes. I understood them both. I'm now 61 and these tales have never been more relevant.
I doesn't trust him, because he doesn't says the most important thing: nazism is socialism. Is left. It has never been "right", neither "far right". If Murray were serious, he would had studied it, and nobody that studied it can claim that fascism is anything else than socialism.
Don't be so damned sheepish..stop anointing.its first mistake.take him case by case. He can be wrong,he can be right...don't become a fanboy because you love the way he sneers and agrees with you from time to time
A charlatan that was silent as the night during the barbarian lockdowns and COVID inanity The man's eloquent but that's not the same thing as defending the things that you speak of
There are two types of "liberals" to watch out for . The ones who are alarmingly ignorant, naive and easily led and the ones that are anything but "liberal" and prey on the alarmingly ignorant, naive and easily led ones . (Spending most of my career in "public service " I come across both - because that is where an awful (worrying ) lot of then "hang out".)
It's difficult, if not impossible, to listen to the narrative of well educated, articulate people who research relevant material aligned to the topic of discussion when the listener has a very different or opposite view of themselves, others and the world. Real listening does require an open mind.
Youre right. Consider though, the horror of being on the leading edge of the receiving end in regards to fascist imlementations. The one requirement : Poverty. All else is just first-world problemata.
People are always throwing the words " nazi " , " fascist " and " racist " around . The more you use a word inappropriately and indiscriminately , the more it loses it's impact .
It's simply what they want to believe true or not. I've lost all respect for magical thinkers. I want nothing to do with them and if they want nothing to do with me...good.
he is not sticking up for you, he's selling books. seems a lot of people missed the memo. hilariously easy to convince people with some slick words....
He couldn't even tell you what a "real brit" is. To him, anyone can be British, and if anyone can be British, the British don't exist. His mates the 🔯 can have their own ethno-state, but not us.
The saddest thing is that sheep can't tell the difference between the wolf and the border collie. Js are not Christ's sheep, and Tiny Mustache Man was not the wolf.
There's nothing hateful about illuminating darkness. DM is about as dark as it gets in the media in this day and age. If you can't see that, perhaps you should read a bit more source material.@@MartinParsons-tr6wi
Well, you need to consider all the people that actually know who really is a Nazi. There are actual Nazi's still running around, but they are far more rare than the amount of times people try to use the label.
@computercamp8334 - well, Israel IS fighting Nazi's! They may not believe in Ayrian purity, but they DO believe in the genocide of Jews, Christians and homosexuals. They also do NOT believe in true democracy. All features of the actual Nazi party practice. As is the willingness to sacrifice civilian lives in pursuit of their religious-political goals. So, the question now is - do you support Palestine? If so, you could accurately be labelled a Nazi.
At this time the N word is completely robbed of meaning. It used to be a very serious accusation, but if people run around calling you one for giving a 10 % tip on a 15 dollar pizza, you kind of become numb to it. Like the other N word in rap songs.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq golden dawn was a interesting thing to mention in of itself. He knows crawley was head freak of golden dawn and ran the church of isis in wsm (which was sold about 20 years go by the then Prince charles). Realise he's specifically talking about Greece in 2015 , but I personally think he did that on purpose.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Except leftoids call everyone they don't agree with Nazis and fascists. So yes, that's exactly what's claimed countless times in perpetuity by the left.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq The point he's making is people conflating dudes with opinions they don't like with actual fascists is a slippery slope where soon nobody will believe you when you try to decry a real fascist.
Completely wrecked the momentum when Matt started banging on about what people should and should not do, think or not think, about abortion. In Matt's own words, "you should have" cut this off at 3:00. Back to Sam, as I had it painfully explained to me by someone in their 20s: No one under 30 knows what a Nazi is. To use the word is to go nuclear. So, since Sam is a secular Jew, and I guess proper society can't have Jews holding unsanctioned opinions; therefore, Sam is a Nazi. I get the impression people under 30 don't know what Jews are, either.
Like many of us, you're dealing with a generation of woke simps who don't know their bums from their big toes. Whinging Woke can't disappear soon enough. Meanwhile, stand your ground.😊
@@simeonb3726Read a dictionary and read some Jewish history."Ashkenazi" refers to Central European Jews,i.e.German mostly.It has absolutely nothing to do with NAZIS.NAZI is an acronym for the German words meaning "National Socialist Workers Party"."Ashkenazi" is a Hebrew/Yiddish word meaning "European Jews".Just because two words sound similar does not make their meaning the same.In the early 2000s,a college professor got in a lot of trouble when he used the word "niggardly" which is an ancient English word that means "miserly" or "stingy".It has and never has had any racial connotations whatsoever.But because a bunch of snowflakes didn't know English or history,their feefees were offended by the SOUND of a word,and a teacher lost his job.It's the same mentality that insists on spelling " women" as "womyn",when the original word has nothing to do with "men".I despair at the ignorance of the average person today,and the fact that we are all being ruled by the ignorant instead of the intelligent.
Auto-suggestion is a very powerful psychological weapon in the hands of the tyrants. Intelligent people will always question what they are told by asking that important question - WHY!
That’s usually the first challenge a child uses. Why? Then the hammer comes down. Only the stubborn and strong survive and still ask why. Those who show an interest in science ask how.
What I want to know is how practically all of the Canadian Parliament (around the autumn of 2023) could receive a person who they were told had - as a Ukrainian - fought in the Second World War against the Russians - and not have immediately suspected (which turned out to be the case) that the guy's fighting against the Russians was done "along side the Nazis" ? (In fact, I think the guy was in some "Gruppen" this, that or the other which the Nazis formed to facilitate the participation of Ukrainians in their (the Nazis) fight against the Russians). The really worrying thing about that Canadian episode is how little attention it received in the MSM - this comment may not seem directly relevant to the context in which DM's remarks above were made - but to me, the lack of coverage in the MSM - regarding the "most f*cking ignorant" display of ignorance (if I can double the use of ignorance) by a Parliament in modern history - demonstrates the sheer and utter corruption of most of the MSM !!
I suspect because it would have immediately crushed their narrative of calling Russians Nazis, just like how the MSM completely buried the literal Nazi regime change that NATO orchestrated in 2014, and how they had been killing ethnic Russians for years, and how Azov is just one of many that are governing the country. I would say that's relative, considering how the MSM and their little blue haired footsoldiers accuse everyone that does not mindlessly accept their "truth" to be Nazis. But that's just my theory.
Of course the guy was a Nazi - who else was fighting the Russians in Ukraine in the '40s? The real question is, who cares? You think he made a bad choice considering the hell of 70 years of slavery instilled on the Ukraine before and after WW2 by the Soviets? No one living in the west born after WW2 has any right to whine about who was "a nazi" in that situation - they were fighting for something fare more important than the ideology of their allies of necessity.
@@smgdfcmfah Fair point. It seems reasonable to conclude that people like to hear just one side of the story, it's less taxing on the brain that way. And it taps into Orwell's "five minutes of hate" in 1984. Perhaps conforming to the good guy/bad guy, I'm right/you're wrong, red team/blue team narrative/polarisation. Existentialism is not on the agenda, apparently
When I was a lad, and old Shep was a pup, the expression was the 'boy who called Wolf' about the everyone is a Nazi thing. As to Douglas Murray, I'm a huge fan, specifically of his take on the Israeli war. He tends to be a tad smug but that's pretty much a minor quibble.
'It's the Nazi lady' is referential rather than directly accusatory, and not necessarily true, plus without full context an onlooker has no reason to agree or log that as fact, but to consider it a political statement rather than a socio-economic statement. Something Murray should know, have calculated before meandering into this uncharacteristic diatribe of imprecision.
I commented on a story the other day about the attempts to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado and other states, and said that in 1930's Germany, there were a lot of people who didn't want Jews to be able to teach or practice law, let alone hold any public office. One of the replies I got was, "Germany had no problem with the Jews until Hitler came along." Of all the stupid people I've encountered in my life, that person was easily in the top three.
Unfortunately, Sam's own words are more than enough to point where he's willing to go and what he's willing to ignore if it means persecuting those he doesn't like - ala the glaringly obvious TDS he suffers from.
I'm starting to like Dougie, even though I don't agree with him on everything. His upper-class accent can be annoying at times, but his wisdom rivals that of Jordan Peterson. We need more people like Murry and Peterson to speak out against the idiocy of our time.
As far as the pro-choice thing goes, all I know is if you stop someone else's heart from beating, It's considered murder regardless of how old the person is.
The word "nazi" gets thrown around so much it has no meaning. however; Sam Harris with his opinions on both Covid and Trump demonstrate that he is definitely on the authoritarian left end of the spectrum. Authoritarianism in any form should be resisted and heavily balanced against anarchy. And I say this as someone with no love for Trump.
Dear Douglas I understand perfectly that there is a point that there is not room for ignorance...Thank you for your huge patience Murray and like a warrior continue talk8ng truth.
I fully agree with Douglas. But his frustration is showing a bit too much, he needs to be careful to keep the language clean… the argument hits home harder when it is clean and repeatable.
The other dude is Matt Dillahunty. I'm not sure what came before this exchange, but I do know that Sam Harris has been taking a lot of flak from the atheist community lately for singling out Islam for its multitude of sins in a heavy-handed way. Dillahunty made a good point afterwards, which was not incongruent with Murray's observation.
@@mikeallan7740 A. He's got a right to be and do both. B. Just because someone is a leftist, doesn't make them a drone. Define "drone", exactly. I've seen more drones (by my definition) on the right. C. The guy's been doing this for decades. He's been on shows where he's dismantled all the same arguments over and over and over and over again, and it's all on TH-cam; yet people keep coming at him - politely or not - with the same old tired arguments, over and over and over and over again. He's getting older and his patience is wearing thin. He don't wanna hear it any more, so he blocks the bullshit generators, who willfully ignore, or disingenuously misunderstand, or go along with what he has to say only to reject it all for no reason when he wins the argument. I know this because I'm getting old too, and I can relate.
The other dude is plain liar. Says "argue honestly" but he does pretty much the opposite, and says "My wife and her friends" but the dude is married to a dude. He's pretty much /atheism in flesh.
@@MrMrtvozornik Dillahunty married another man? Where do you get this made-up bullshit? Not that it would make any difference if it was true, but if you've got anything more than more accusations for 'evidence', lay it on the table.
Douglas Murray is a fk'n rockstar. Kudos for his blunt brutal honesty from the United States of America. It's a breath of fresh air from a nation full of corrupt liars with an agenda.
Ironically the closing statement undermined itself. I think “pro life” people would clearly not say that they “want everything to live forever”, but that they don’t want people killing babies for their personal convenience under any circumstances, which is a very different statement. He dismisses that standpoint by misrepresenting it, which is just what he’s complaining about. (I may also have mischaracterized the pro life argument; I’m not an expert on the matter).
That's basically the problem with the pro-'choicers'. Their arguments have been pulled apart entirely. Their entire argument for 'choice' rests on twisting arguments to suit their own points, ignoring inconvenient facts and dehumanzing unborn humans.
@@thenonexistinghero Yes, it seems like the very name is a dishonest deflection. It allows them to say “you don’t trust a woman to make a choice, and you won’t let women control their own bodies.” That completely ignores and sidesteps the opposing view which (I think) could be summarized “don’t kill babies.” How can an honest debate take place in that disconnect?
@@joshuacalkins It's the same for a lot of things. When you even the ground, the ones advocating for inhuman practices are at a disadvantage. So instead they use other methods. Lying, deceit, manipulation, censorship, etc.
@@thenonexistinghero Reminds me of the very effective branding of a bill as “don’t say gay”, and racism disguised as “anti-racism”, and the aggressive inclusion of graphic, deviant sexual behavior in schoolbooks as “anti-censorship.” It would be heartening to see the masses reject such blatant misrepresentation, but probably not while “their side” is “winning.”
Diilahunty might be surprised to know that most "liberal" Western European nations have abortion laws that are actually stricter than many "blue" state laws. I do not consider myself anti-choice, but except in extreme situations like saving the life of the mother, six months is more than enough time to make the choice to have an abortion. After that, except for the aforementioned extreme situation, tough bananas.
Matt is a full-term choice nut. Essentially the antithesis to the "life begins at conception" folks. Both extremes are very unpopular and irrational. Blows my mind he would hold that view considering he is supposed to be a rational thinker.
@@drockopotamus1 thinking life begins at conception is on par with being a nut and irrational? Does is not begin at conception? What is being conceived if not a human life?
How convenient that people have become so numbed to the word that they don't know truth from fiction. The real thing could proceed, and despite numerous call outs no one would give the least resistance.
@@willardstaton th-cam.com/video/S8U34ezKvrU/w-d-xo.html. In this debate, he called the new leader of the House Congress, racist, sexist, homophonic, and right-wing nationalist. He knew nothing about the guy and to date, the guy has not acted in any way to support these claims. he basically read the guy's mind and knew all his intentions
Sam Harris went off the deep end with his Trump Derangement Syndrome and has authoritarian take on the insane COVID response but calling him a Nazi is hyperbole.
I have always been a peaceful, tolerant, empathetic person, just for stating my beliefs about the Israel-Hamas conflict and the transgender issue, I have been called, hateful, racist, conservative and intolerant. The other day by some friend who has known me for more than 30 years. I am puzzled, from one moment to the other it seems I have become a completely different person in their view. I feel all I am still that loving tolerant person though. And it seems they never have arguments in these conversations, they straight away start calling you these things if you dare to have a different opinion. Very undemocratic.
Dilhuntybis hilarious. Strawmannig JBP's take on him and what he said . JBP said: "everyone has a God. By extension you do to Matt.". To which Dilahunty took great offense, because he interpreted it as "you Matt believe in the very God that you claim doesn't exist". Not the same statement at all and ... it so happens that JBP is clearly and patently correct on that point. Even when speaking to hard core materialist intellectuals like Harris and Matt. They just can't see / admit that he's correct.
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"(Sam Harris) initially employed this tactic by enraging Christians online, and continued it when he shifted his focus to Muslims. In 2017, he featured race "scientist" Charles Murray on his podcast. Mr Murray is the author of The Bell Curve, a book that attempts to link race and intelligence and intelligence to one's genetics, and which has appealed to some white supremacists. His appearance on Mr Harris's podcast was met with a mix of revulsion on the left and nodding approval on the right."
Wonder why Sam Harris might be called a Jack booted Nazi?
I just don't see it myself.
Sam Harris may or may not be a Nazi twat, but he has fed the far right their fave morsel of pseudoscientific eugenics bullshit that they love.
I mean, what's not to love about misinformation that confirms and validates one's deep seated irrational bigotry?
Now surely you can't be such a fucking ignorant person to not understand that?
Maybe you are. It's hard to tell.
I simply no longer trust the media to tell me anything, even the conservative media have shown themselves to have an axe to grind.
I love the way Douglas Murray delivers facts in a way that he makes me think through them.
This!
@@zapender of course you can do better?
I call it the "post-truth", "post-factual" reality. We decide what we trust and nothing else is allowed to challenge that. It leads to a really bad place and we are well on the way there.
Have a listen to Norman Finkelstein.
Stopped trusting the mainstream media a while ago. I scan to see if there has been any major calamities in the world, headline stuff. That is it. The BBC makes me more angry than I thought capable. There take on migrants makes me want to puke.
Murray is a living legend, saying what others in his position are too frightened to say.
@@NaghtiesMaxinus In the media...... perhaps.....
@@NaghtiesMaxinus he has a large platform with many hundreds of thousands, if not, millions of people around the world who want to know his opinion.. that's a pretty good position to be in for someone who wants to share their message.
Really? I never heard him say: "The jews are destroying the west" ????
And what position is that? Say it..he's a huge part of mainstream media...and he's really not doing anything special..people come for the sneering and stay for it.
@@johnscott6481 i don't live in the UK so i've never seen him in mainstream media, except as a guest on piers morgans show. Yes he sneers at times.. if you'd actually listened to what he was sneering about you'd see he has every right to.
The reason I like Douglas is because he is forcing people to think again.
Lol. He won't dare debate with Norman Finkelstein because he knows he'd be humiliated!
@@PlanetaryCitizen Prove it?
@@PlanetaryCitizennobody will debates that sack of ….. he’s so far off the rails that any self respecting person stays the heck away from him. As they should. He’s not even a decent human let alone a decent anything else
I have a book on dog training printed in 1968 titled "Stop. Sit. Think." Imagine the world we have created where we look up to someone who tells people to think. Thank you Douglas Murray. I wish I was as brave.
@@goldbug7127 If you stop watching mainstream media and stop listening to politicians. You then learn to question everything you are told and you learn to think for yourself then propaganda doesn’t work on you.
“Point out the consequences, not their motivations, because you know the former, not the latter” is what I got out of this and it’s a very simple but powerful rule in a debate
Consequences of pro-choice.
Women are unhappy.
They are enslaved to a man/woman/corporate entity that will never care about them.
They will have nobody next to their deathbed.
What the freedom to work actually gave women was to choose between working 12 hours a day, raising children and managing the house....or working 8 hours a day for a corporate overlord that won't love them back, then try to manage the jobs that needed to be done in 12 hours with 4, and nagging the husband for being useless when they're just as tired, so by the end of the day, they can either choose to finish the 12 hours of childcare and homework by sacrificing 2 hours each of their sleep....or pushing the job to the next day and letting the tablet entertain your child.
Womens liberation only uplifted the club players and made women just as miserable as men while competing for their jobs.
And to top it off, women rarely date downward.
So besides taking the job of the guy she would have married, she won't even consider to widen her perspective as a breadwinner
I would qualify that statement by saying that in many cases, you are more likely to know the consequences than the motivations. You have to be careful, because the world is a complicated place, and it is frequently difficult to know the consequences of actions. Unintended consequences abound.
You two realize Matt was advising against that tactic, right? Watch the video again.
@@Wodenson5150 You are confused. Matt said that he talks about the consequences, not motivations. It is certainly true that you should avoid talking about someone's motivations in a debate. Stick to the facts. Someone's motivations are not facts.
@@XJWill1 Agreed. Matt was saying not to discuss someone's motivations, because you CAN'T know their motivations, and if you guess wrongly, they can justifiably ignore your statement. If you argue that the CONSEQUENCES of their actions are bad, that's not so dismissable.
Followed Murray for years. 1st time I've heard him curse. He must have been pissed off.
He's been saying dirty words
Woke is f@#king infuriating.
It's must have, not must of!
Beat me to it. @@PlanetaryCitizen
@@PlanetaryCitizen thanks.
I heard the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" as a very young child. And the story of The Emperor Has No Clothes. I understood them both. I'm now 61 and these tales have never been more relevant.
I use the emperor's new clothes reference at least once a week and normally when describing Government or Managerial decisions.....
My favorite book as a child and it changed my life as i new i was the boy to shows everybody the Emperor has no cloths.
@@Geordie-hs7kt I think it describes people who think men can menstruate and miscarry, but don't know what a woman is.
If you call everything evil, you create the camouflage for real evil.
yes such a good point
But what if we get to a point where everything IS evil? I'm not saying that is the case now, but wouldn't your proposition then be the opposite?
That comment is the inverse theory of the old saying that without evil, how would we recognize good?
@@tonyclaus4975how’s that?
I just love Douglas Murray! It’s so reassuring to hear that we still have a few people who just speak facts.
I doesn't trust him, because he doesn't says the most important thing: nazism is socialism. Is left. It has never been "right", neither "far right". If Murray were serious, he would had studied it, and nobody that studied it can claim that fascism is anything else than socialism.
😂😂😂😂. Douglas Murray and the word facts in the same sentence lol😂😂
Yes facts but today with massive backwardness people don't understand to thick many many in today's world .schools full of this types
He ignores facts when it comes to immigration, the only things that matters there are his feelings
Don't be so damned sheepish..stop anointing.its first mistake.take him case by case. He can be wrong,he can be right...don't become a fanboy because you love the way he sneers and agrees with you from time to time
Douglas speaks the truth!
He supports the ZioNazis of Israel
Joke of the day mate.
@@rft3670 nah that’s your mom bro
And omits some
How delusional are you? Get medication.
I love Douglas Murray, the most honest, direct speaker I love to hear talk.
*_Douglas - The absolute epitome of a brilliant Anti Woke Warrior fighting for the truth and the facts ..._*
A charlatan that was silent as the night during the barbarian lockdowns and COVID inanity
The man's eloquent but that's not the same thing as defending the things that you speak of
@@kakashi2801
*_Point out exactly where he does not defend, quote: "The things you speak of" (ie. The truth and the facts) - I'll wait ..._*
He's too loyal to his masters to speak the full truth.
What do you define as being "woke"?
@@noogate2672
*_Oh look, someone with one of those false, tired, worn out old buzz words /accusations..._*
Wonderful to hear someone speak truth.
I love Douglas Murray he’s the Man!
He would certainly agree with you.
He reminds me of Tim Dim but Nice from the fast show, except for the nice part.
Really? I thought he is a woman.
@@fergalm4157 You failed from the off: Tim Nice but Dim.........
@@gweilospur5877and why wouldn’t he? Not much point being a speaker on the worlds stage if you don’t have confidence in what you’re saying
Douglas Murray is spot on yet again . He just says everything as it is .
Hats off Gentlemen (and ladies) i give you the greatest living Englishman Douglas Murray.
Pretty sure there are several dozen if not hundred that would come before Murray.
When it takes a man of such education to just say what is common knowledge and be taken seriously.
Perhaps we should a say a man of such intelligence and insight then?
This man truly is awesome.
Outstanding!!! Hats off again to Douglas Murray.
There are two types of "liberals" to watch out for . The ones who are alarmingly ignorant, naive and easily led and the ones that are anything but "liberal" and prey on the alarmingly ignorant, naive and easily led ones . (Spending most of my career in "public service " I come across both - because that is where an awful (worrying ) lot of then "hang out".)
Fortunately, most liberals don't fall into either of those groups. Unfortunately, the ones in the news do.
The first type are one of those sorts of people you can fool all the time. The other is a fifth collumn.
I read this in Douglas's voice
So it seems. Though it may apply to humans (and ideologies) in general. Exploiters and exploited. (Animal Farm)
@@MartinParsons-tr6wi Its depressing so many people think the right is any less dogmatic and manipulative. Its probably worse actually.
So basically a reprise of the _Boy Who Cried Wolf_ story; lie until no one believes you - and then it really happens.
Yeah, people know the story yet will still lie until people ignore that they exist and or hopeful something bad happens to them.
The problem is that lying frequently works, even in the face of clear disproof.
It's difficult, if not impossible, to listen to the narrative of well educated, articulate people who research relevant material aligned to the topic of discussion when the listener has a very different or opposite view of themselves, others and the world. Real listening does require an open mind.
Youre right.
Consider though, the horror of being on the leading edge of the receiving end in regards to fascist imlementations.
The one requirement :
Poverty.
All else is just first-world problemata.
You clearly don't know DM or his backers!@@IamKlaus007
Well educated articulate people don't need to swear to make a point.
Exactly!@@jimjones-bk2is
@@jimjones-bk2is Of course they don't. But if you understand the concept of emphasis then you'd maybe realise why they do at times.
People are always throwing the words " nazi " , " fascist " and " racist " around . The more you use a word inappropriately and indiscriminately , the more it loses it's impact .
It's simply what they want to believe true or not. I've lost all respect for magical thinkers. I want nothing to do with them and if they want nothing to do with me...good.
Nazi ,fascist, racist describes Trump perfectly
It seems very few people understand what fascism actually is. It’s annoying as hell.
USA throws communism around Crusaders gained nothing
Problem is, Sam has been spouting propaganda akin to nazi Germany for years now.
This man is a treasure ❤
A pearl necklace...
Why? Does he talks about bolsevik jews killing millions of Christians? Or he just blabbering about nazis like everyone else?
Murray in the house!! Speak the truth, brother!
Murray speaks what??
its called truth my dear. I know leftists typically don't understand that word as 90% of their world is fictional @@adrianahuls4983
Douglas sticks up for us true brits , that go back generations, well done to that man 👏👏👏👏🏴🏴🏴
👏 👏🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧
he is not sticking up for you, he's selling books. seems a lot of people missed the memo. hilariously easy to convince people with some slick words....
He couldn't even tell you what a "real brit" is. To him, anyone can be British, and if anyone can be British, the British don't exist. His mates the 🔯 can have their own ethno-state, but not us.
Everyone in this world "goes back generations".
Someone may need to remind Matt Dillahunty that pride comes before the fall. That's quite the arrogant stance re: the issue of abortion.
After Murray was through speaking Dillahunty said he was tempted to say nothing. He shouldn't have resisted the temptation.
I still remember reading "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" in grade school. These kinds of books have been replaced by books like "Billy Wears Dresses".
😂😂😂yep
Indoctorian isn't it
@@tenniskinsella7768 yep.100%
The world has gone crazy , but Douglas tells how it should be said , well done to this man who doesn’t mince his words 👏👏👏👏🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧
The saddest thing is that sheep can't tell the difference between the wolf and the border collie. Js are not Christ's sheep, and Tiny Mustache Man was not the wolf.
I LOVE PANGBURN!!!! and Douglas Murray of course!
We need more love in this world ❤
@@PangburnWhich would mean more religion 🥰
Rightwing echo chamber. Isn't it time you joined the 21st century?
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Something about you reminds me of Big Brother, mr.101. Five minutes of hate, anyone ?
There's nothing hateful about illuminating darkness. DM is about as dark as it gets in the media in this day and age. If you can't see that, perhaps you should read a bit more source material.@@MartinParsons-tr6wi
love kills hate ... the problem is, its easy to hate - it's harder to love
It's easy to love❤
@@deprofundis-z8sI Love my enemies ! They're like pet tarantulas, they're fluffly and Cute but bite the hand that feeds them. All humans are anyway.
That's not true, hate is exhausting and a nuisance in your life and fills your insecurities.
I could argue that they're in balance.
Love is giving, hate is taking ?
@@deprofundis-z8s I don't hate anyone. I don't wish anyone to die. Sorry to disappoint you.
Douglas for king 🤴🏻
Not sure that "king".........
@@johnloving9401 were you planning on writing a complete sentence or just being a troll?
We don't get a choice.
Thank you for telling the truth
We used to have a kids story about Crying Wolf….. that was a life lesson.
I have decided that only Nazis call people Nazis. 😂
Your decision stems from ignorance and arrogance.
You may be right.. certainly i've only heard fascists call others fascist... same with the word racist.
Well, you need to consider all the people that actually know who really is a Nazi.
There are actual Nazi's still running around, but they are far more rare than the amount of times people try to use the label.
@computercamp8334 see, now you are doing the pointing blame thing. It’s not just Nazis. Learn to chill and let other deal with their own.
@computercamp8334 - well, Israel IS fighting Nazi's! They may not believe in Ayrian purity, but they DO believe in the genocide of Jews, Christians and homosexuals. They also do NOT believe in true democracy. All features of the actual Nazi party practice. As is the willingness to sacrifice civilian lives in pursuit of their religious-political goals.
So, the question now is - do you support Palestine? If so, you could accurately be labelled a Nazi.
At this time the N word is completely robbed of meaning. It used to be a very serious accusation, but if people run around calling you one for giving a 10 % tip on a 15 dollar pizza, you kind of become numb to it.
Like the other N word in rap songs.
"If you claim there's basically no difference between Golden Dawn and Sam Harris..."
Damn!
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Literally nobody claimed that, except DM in his twisted imagination.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq golden dawn was a interesting thing to mention in of itself. He knows crawley was head freak of golden dawn and ran the church of isis in wsm (which was sold about 20 years go by the then Prince charles). Realise he's specifically talking about Greece in 2015 , but I personally think he did that on purpose.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Except leftoids call everyone they don't agree with Nazis and fascists. So yes, that's exactly what's claimed countless times in perpetuity by the left.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq The point he's making is people conflating dudes with opinions they don't like with actual fascists is a slippery slope where soon nobody will believe you when you try to decry a real fascist.
One of the very few guys that tells it like it is
Completely wrecked the momentum when Matt started banging on about what people should and should not do, think or not think, about abortion. In Matt's own words, "you should have" cut this off at 3:00.
Back to Sam, as I had it painfully explained to me by someone in their 20s: No one under 30 knows what a Nazi is. To use the word is to go nuclear.
So, since Sam is a secular Jew, and I guess proper society can't have Jews holding unsanctioned opinions; therefore, Sam is a Nazi.
I get the impression people under 30 don't know what Jews are, either.
Matt is a 🤡
Ashkenazis?
Like many of us, you're dealing with a generation of woke simps who don't know their bums from their big toes. Whinging Woke can't disappear soon enough. Meanwhile, stand your ground.😊
@@simeonb3726Read a dictionary and read some Jewish history."Ashkenazi" refers to Central European Jews,i.e.German mostly.It has absolutely nothing to do with NAZIS.NAZI is an acronym for the German words meaning "National Socialist Workers Party"."Ashkenazi" is a Hebrew/Yiddish word meaning "European Jews".Just because two words sound similar does not make their meaning the same.In the early 2000s,a college professor got in a lot of trouble when he used the word "niggardly" which is an ancient English word that means "miserly" or "stingy".It has and never has had any racial connotations whatsoever.But because a bunch of snowflakes didn't know English or history,their feefees were offended by the SOUND of a word,and a teacher lost his job.It's the same mentality that insists on spelling " women" as "womyn",when the original word has nothing to do with "men".I despair at the ignorance of the average person today,and the fact that we are all being ruled by the ignorant instead of the intelligent.
@gonzoexpress9885 you're telling me people under 20 run the media?
I love Douglas Murray, hen he said " I'm sorry that's not my area" . I nearly fell off the chair laughing, still smiling 😊 BTW, he's right !
He can be hilarious sometimes. You should watch him on Pierce Morgan, the one where they discuss Sam Smith.
@@LonelyCinderella123I loved that one... "IM NOT A MEMBER OF THE QUEER COMMUNITY YOU STEWPID SOD!!!"
Auto-suggestion is a very powerful psychological weapon in the hands of the tyrants. Intelligent people will always question what they are told by asking that important question - WHY!
That’s usually the first challenge a child uses. Why? Then the hammer comes down. Only the stubborn and strong survive and still ask why. Those who show an interest in science ask how.
Why? Which is the "How come?" and "What for?" question.
In Canada, our Parliament welcomes them as guests...while accusing Canadians to be Nazis, who challenge their policies . That actually happened .
“It’s not my area.”
We need this guy running our country . Simple as that . Our best hope for normality.
He just said " My Wife"...Remember, he is married to a dude, a man. Fyi
What I want to know is how practically all of the Canadian Parliament (around the autumn of 2023) could receive a person who they were told had - as a Ukrainian - fought in the Second World War against the Russians - and not have immediately suspected (which turned out to be the case) that the guy's fighting against the Russians was done "along side the Nazis" ? (In fact, I think the guy was in some "Gruppen" this, that or the other which the Nazis formed to facilitate the participation of Ukrainians in their (the Nazis) fight against the Russians). The really worrying thing about that Canadian episode is how little attention it received in the MSM - this comment may not seem directly relevant to the context in which DM's remarks above were made - but to me, the lack of coverage in the MSM - regarding the "most f*cking ignorant" display of ignorance (if I can double the use of ignorance) by a Parliament in modern history - demonstrates the sheer and utter corruption of most of the MSM !!
Worse: Zio-fascist apologists like Murray actually get elevated by MSM, and history gets not just ignored but rewritten.
Cherry picking is the narrative controllers' (MSM's) stock in trade
I suspect because it would have immediately crushed their narrative of calling Russians Nazis, just like how the MSM completely buried the literal Nazi regime change that NATO orchestrated in 2014, and how they had been killing ethnic Russians for years, and how Azov is just one of many that are governing the country.
I would say that's relative, considering how the MSM and their little blue haired footsoldiers accuse everyone that does not mindlessly accept their "truth" to be Nazis. But that's just my theory.
Of course the guy was a Nazi - who else was fighting the Russians in Ukraine in the '40s? The real question is, who cares? You think he made a bad choice considering the hell of 70 years of slavery instilled on the Ukraine before and after WW2 by the Soviets? No one living in the west born after WW2 has any right to whine about who was "a nazi" in that situation - they were fighting for something fare more important than the ideology of their allies of necessity.
@@smgdfcmfah Fair point. It seems reasonable to conclude that people like to hear just one side of the story, it's less taxing on the brain that way. And it taps into Orwell's "five minutes of hate" in 1984. Perhaps conforming to the good guy/bad guy, I'm right/you're wrong, red team/blue team narrative/polarisation. Existentialism is not on the agenda, apparently
Douglas Murray says it plainly how it is with moral courage & conviction ....
Douglas.... I salute you sir.
Cancel culture at work. Well said DM!
Saying what needs to be said as always. #teamdouglas
It`s classic narcissistic gas lighting...they tell you that you are exactly what they are...
They are what they accuse you of being...
When I was a lad, and old Shep was a pup, the expression was the 'boy who called Wolf' about the everyone is a Nazi thing.
As to Douglas Murray, I'm a huge fan, specifically of his take on the Israeli war. He tends to be a tad smug but that's pretty much a minor quibble.
Only a tad? Lol
@@Jessie-ev2th
I find it difficult to suppress my gift for understatement.
@@vegasdoug I know that's what you did. This is why I loved your post.
Douglas Murray, voice of sanity in this woke world.
I love it when Dougie talks dirty.
😂👌🏽
'It's the Nazi lady' is referential rather than directly accusatory, and not necessarily true, plus without full context an onlooker has no reason to agree or log that as fact, but to consider it a political statement rather than a socio-economic statement. Something Murray should know, have calculated before meandering into this uncharacteristic diatribe of imprecision.
Typical of Matt D. Coming in with some grandstanding point which only dilutes the poignant point Douglas made.
I commented on a story the other day about the attempts to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado and other states, and said that in 1930's Germany, there were a lot of people who didn't want Jews to be able to teach or practice law, let alone hold any public office. One of the replies I got was, "Germany had no problem with the Jews until Hitler came along."
Of all the stupid people I've encountered in my life, that person was easily in the top three.
Always the smartest guy in the room.
What a joker!
He is that!
A joker, or the smartest guy in the room?@@speshwemmick6225
lmao
13. Forms of birth control and some argue that women should still be able to kill it if it's inconvenient.
"that's not my area" 😂😂😂
lolol
It's not Dillahunty's either. Don't believe ask the dude he's married to.
@@matthewabln6989 Have you told Beth Presswood your theory?
@@lesleyvivien2876 Expound.
@@matthewabln6989 What would you like expounded?
"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan
Oh look, another clueless virgin who wants to tell women what to do with their bodies.
Unfortunately, Sam's own words are more than enough to point where he's willing to go and what he's willing to ignore if it means persecuting those he doesn't like - ala the glaringly obvious TDS he suffers from.
Exactly
Speech = persecution? Woah
Love listening to Murray.
I'm starting to like Dougie, even though I don't agree with him on everything. His upper-class accent can be annoying at times, but his wisdom rivals that of Jordan Peterson. We need more people like Murry and Peterson to speak out against the idiocy of our time.
So he has a well spoken accent …so what.
He is far superior intellectually to Jordan Peterson! So is Matt Dillahunty. Peterson uses endless word salad.
You are the idiocy of our time.
We all have personal favorites, don't we?@@2019freddie
We all have our personal favorites, our ego's preferences, don't we?@@Sally237-s4w
It's unfortunate, in many cases, that loud voices get heard the most.
As far as the pro-choice thing goes, all I know is if you stop someone else's heart from beating, It's considered murder regardless of how old the person is.
Love this man. Educated real man. Want him and the Dutch man that is rising up against his country being ruined
The bloke at the end would have been better just leaving it with Douglas.
3:35 Wow...he is truly deluded to say that he has EVER "demolished" the views of Pro-Life individuals.
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The word "nazi" gets thrown around so much it has no meaning. however; Sam Harris with his opinions on both Covid and Trump demonstrate that he is definitely on the authoritarian left end of the spectrum. Authoritarianism in any form should be resisted and heavily balanced against anarchy. And I say this as someone with no love for Trump.
Dear Douglas I understand perfectly that there is a point that there is not room for ignorance...Thank you for your huge patience Murray and like a warrior continue talk8ng truth.
Okay, genius! What have been the consequences of unlimited legalized abortion for our society. None of it's good. I'm waiting...
Yay Douglas !!
It’s the boy that called wolf to many times. When the Nazi showed up and ate the boy
Bloody brilliant.
I fully agree with Douglas. But his frustration is showing a bit too much, he needs to be careful to keep the language clean… the argument hits home harder when it is clean and repeatable.
When he gets personal, he debases his, otherwise valid, viewpoint. But nobody's perfect
Douglas is coherent, the other dude is a master of word salad
The other dude is Matt Dillahunty. I'm not sure what came before this exchange, but I do know that Sam Harris has been taking a lot of flak from the atheist community lately for singling out Islam for its multitude of sins in a heavy-handed way. Dillahunty made a good point afterwards, which was not incongruent with Murray's observation.
@@JAMESLEVEE I used to respect Matt until he became a leftist drone and started blocking people for politely disagreeing with him.
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A. He's got a right to be and do both.
B. Just because someone is a leftist, doesn't make them a drone. Define "drone", exactly. I've seen more drones (by my definition) on the right.
C. The guy's been doing this for decades. He's been on shows where he's dismantled all the same arguments over and over and over and over again, and it's all on TH-cam; yet people keep coming at him - politely or not - with the same old tired arguments, over and over and over and over again. He's getting older and his patience is wearing thin. He don't wanna hear it any more, so he blocks the bullshit generators, who willfully ignore, or disingenuously misunderstand, or go along with what he has to say only to reject it all for no reason when he wins the argument. I know this because I'm getting old too, and I can relate.
The other dude is plain liar. Says "argue honestly" but he does pretty much the opposite, and says "My wife and her friends" but the dude is married to a dude. He's pretty much /atheism in flesh.
@@MrMrtvozornik Dillahunty married another man? Where do you get this made-up bullshit? Not that it would make any difference if it was true, but if you've got anything more than more accusations for 'evidence', lay it on the table.
Douglas Murray is a fk'n rockstar. Kudos for his blunt brutal honesty from the United States of America. It's a breath of fresh air from a nation full of corrupt liars with an agenda.
As an Untersturmführer I find it particularly offensive the way they call hippies jack booted nazis.
Ironically the closing statement undermined itself. I think “pro life” people would clearly not say that they “want everything to live forever”, but that they don’t want people killing babies for their personal convenience under any circumstances, which is a very different statement. He dismisses that standpoint by misrepresenting it, which is just what he’s complaining about. (I may also have mischaracterized the pro life argument; I’m not an expert on the matter).
Fair comment
That's basically the problem with the pro-'choicers'. Their arguments have been pulled apart entirely. Their entire argument for 'choice' rests on twisting arguments to suit their own points, ignoring inconvenient facts and dehumanzing unborn humans.
@@thenonexistinghero Yes, it seems like the very name is a dishonest deflection. It allows them to say “you don’t trust a woman to make a choice, and you won’t let women control their own bodies.” That completely ignores and sidesteps the opposing view which (I think) could be summarized “don’t kill babies.” How can an honest debate take place in that disconnect?
@@joshuacalkins It's the same for a lot of things. When you even the ground, the ones advocating for inhuman practices are at a disadvantage. So instead they use other methods. Lying, deceit, manipulation, censorship, etc.
@@thenonexistinghero Reminds me of the very effective branding of a bill as “don’t say gay”, and racism disguised as “anti-racism”, and the aggressive inclusion of graphic, deviant sexual behavior in schoolbooks as “anti-censorship.” It would be heartening to see the masses reject such blatant misrepresentation, but probably not while “their side” is “winning.”
Diilahunty might be surprised to know that most "liberal" Western European nations have abortion laws that are actually stricter than many "blue" state laws. I do not consider myself anti-choice, but except in extreme situations like saving the life of the mother, six months is more than enough time to make the choice to have an abortion. After that, except for the aforementioned extreme situation, tough bananas.
Matt is a full-term choice nut. Essentially the antithesis to the "life begins at conception" folks. Both extremes are very unpopular and irrational. Blows my mind he would hold that view considering he is supposed to be a rational thinker.
@@drockopotamus1 thinking life begins at conception is on par with being a nut and irrational?
Does is not begin at conception?
What is being conceived if not a human life?
How convenient that people have become so numbed to the word that they don't know truth from fiction. The real thing could proceed, and despite numerous call outs no one would give the least resistance.
Matt Dillahunty is the same thing, he calls people nazi and racists all the time
Give an example, like a link, where Matt called someone a racist without evidence.
Or a Nazi...
@@willardstaton th-cam.com/video/S8U34ezKvrU/w-d-xo.html. In this debate, he called the new leader of the House Congress, racist, sexist, homophonic, and right-wing nationalist. He knew nothing about the guy and to date, the guy has not acted in any way to support these claims. he basically read the guy's mind and knew all his intentions
@@willardstatonGet fuked
Saving babies from MURDER!!
Only the living can chooce.
Anti lifers arent truly pro choicers.
For their choice is a death end.
Douglas is the best ❤
Sam Harris went off the deep end with his Trump Derangement Syndrome and has authoritarian take on the insane COVID response but calling him a Nazi is hyperbole.
This is what one calls "thinking out of the box." Most people don't want to be confused by the facts, and that is why hatred is so rampant.
I agree. It would be easy to think the polarisation of thought is being encouraged (but maybe that's the box I'm in ( ! - ) )
If everyone is a Nazi or a Racist, then no one is a Nazi or a Racist. We have devalued language by its misuse.
I have always been a peaceful, tolerant, empathetic person, just for stating my beliefs about the Israel-Hamas conflict and the transgender issue, I have been called, hateful, racist, conservative and intolerant. The other day by some friend who has known me for more than 30 years. I am puzzled, from one moment to the other it seems I have become a completely different person in their view. I feel all I am still that loving tolerant person though. And it seems they never have arguments in these conversations, they straight away start calling you these things if you dare to have a different opinion. Very undemocratic.
Same with the vaccine
I see in the comments that all the small hats approve. it's like lying is in their blood or something.
Iv been watching Douglas look like he’s getting completely fed up with bullshit. I can relate
Me too 💯 %
I'm called a white supremacist because I listen to Mark Dice and the Hodge Twins. 🤦
I would not say you are a white supremacist. I would just be embarrassed to admit to listening to the Hodge Twins.
Thank you so much for telling women what they should think and say. What ever would they do without your guidance?
Those have to be some of the worst chairs ever put on a stage.
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest “
Dilhuntybis hilarious. Strawmannig JBP's take on him and what he said .
JBP said:
"everyone has a God. By extension you do to Matt.".
To which Dilahunty took great offense, because he interpreted it as "you Matt believe in the very God that you claim doesn't exist".
Not the same statement at all and ... it so happens that JBP is clearly and patently correct on that point. Even when speaking to hard core materialist intellectuals like Harris and Matt. They just can't see / admit that he's correct.
Sam Harris was all in on the medical fascism.
He speaks & clarifies the truth!!❤❤
The trouble today is, if you throw enough mud, some of it will stick, unfortunately
people are failing to learn the lesson of the story "the boy who cried wolf"