I'm pretty sure he was only refilling his canteen with irradiated water, and I think he probably had a suspicion that she could handle the surgery bot.
@@benben3277what makes it even more threatening is that the ghoul immediately recognised him after presumably not seeing him since that day 200 years ago
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104 I mean, a man that you can lay the blame of making your wife and daughter disappear on D day, or at least point you in the right direction.
@@SerialSpiller Lol naw Coop just didn't have Bethesda hand holding on his quest. It took him 200 years to find out where to go. He's probably hoping to find his wife and kid or, at least, what happened to them.
Honestly the ghoul was my favourite piece of the show. How a loving husband, father, actor. Could become a hurt and bitter “monster” who would hurt and kill anyone he had to, to stop himself from becoming feral. which is understandable after we see why he still kept fighting to live with as much of his mind as he could to get justice to the evil company that destroyed everything he knew and loved. Just to get rid of war. Something that can never end, because people will always find a reason to kill eachother
I think, that his family were denied the entrance to the vault,so, that's why his wife and daughter not in 31,and that's why he asked Hank about their whereabouts!!
@@DuneRunnerEnterpriseshis whistleblowing likely comes to a head in season two with it getting exposed he listened to her, she gets fired, they divorce, she doesn’t know the date the bombs drop and they lose they’re daughter because of it, or what I think is more likely, to explain why he’s looking for her; she divorced him but STILL had a spot reserved in vault 31 or something, basically abandoning him and their daughter to a fiery grave thinking she’s never have to deal with it and he lived as a ghoul. I think that would be far more interesting, it shows the hubris of a powerful woman, she created this family she’s the glue she can discard it when it’s inconvenient to her and start another more cooperative family it would make her the more realistic and more terrifying feminine villain portrayed in the past decade. An apathetic or doomsday bringing mother instead of patriarchal father? That’s unique that’s interesting, that’s a good take. I think she’s going to be a main villain of the series.
@@dococ3272I really doubt it, the main villain part that is. But it infuriates me when people forget the small detail that Vault 31 is home to JUNIOR Executives. Barb isn’t a junior executive and couldn’t be in 31. If she was, The Ghoul could’ve forced Lucy to reveal the location to Vault 33, a vault interconnected to two other vaults that housed the frozen junior executives
@@droidmaker7932 oh good point. I still think she’ll be a main villain, considering he’s still looking for her, and doesn’t look like it’s cuz he misses her lol; I also couldn’t fathom a non villainous mother leaving her ex hubby and daughter out to get baked in her plan to wipe out most of humanity…; but you are right she was a senior not junior executive, no way she’s in 31.
@@dococ3272 I didn’t say not a villain, I said not the main villain. Barb’s a villain for sure but not the big bad. In the board meeting, Barb looked up to we, the audience, see a shadowy silhouette seeming to look at Barb when the meeting was not going to plan to whoever was watching them in the shadows. It’s speculated to be a member of the Enclave which shouldn’t be surprising since they and Vault-Tec were responsible for the social and scientific experiments happening across America to unsuspecting vault dwellers.
Yeah bud Askins is the opposite of what America is supposed to stand for he's more like the the Communist Soviet Union and China and the fascist Nazi Germany and Italy.
1 note about the Special stats: He has to have at least a 4 in luck, because he has the Bloody Mess perk enabled. And even though he turned ghoul, he did survive the bombs.
He also had the luck of lucy emptying out the super duper mart saving him, and leaving him to loot the rest of the drugs. She has higher luck seeing as how she survived the organ harvesting. And he has lower luck seeing as how the ‘law came in and apprehended him. That being said… led him to maldaver. So kind of hard to determine. Definitely below 5 luck worse than average lol
@@xColton24 Well, if he'd died in the explosion, his daughter would have died with him, and his last thoughts would have been about failing her. So I'm going to vote ghoul is luckier. Surviving over 200 years without going feral when you have unfinished business you really want to complete seems super lucky and unlikely, at least as they're setting it up in the show. The other guy survived what, 29 years? Things like that are why I don't know about his luck.
One thing I like in this story is the “hardening” of Lucy from her Naivety via the ghoul, and the “softening” of the ghoul from his nihilism via Lucy. I saw this represented via the Ghoul grafting Lucy’s “clean & uncorrupted” finger onto his hand, while Lucy gets a “dirty and corrupted” ghoul finger grafted onto her hand in the organ harvesting facility
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ because the dead internet theory is no longer a theory, we are swimming in AI generated 'content' (spam) and it will only get worse and worse on the big platforms, search engines are montization incentivized and you won't find good stuff anymore through the usual means. We're going underground! and taking the school with it
The scene where the Ghoul talks to his friend turning feral before he puts him out of his misery is one of the best scenes in the series, it shows the humanity still left in Cooper and how he's losing everyone he's known one person at a time. They obviously go way back... then after the glimpse of humanity... "that ass jerky won't make itself" he returns to his wasteland cynicism. Another friend gone... another brick in the wall.
I think a good side of Cooper Howard does indeed still exist. This comes out in one key way: Dogs. Pre-War, Cooper hearing that Dogs aren’t allowed in the Vaults are what motivated him to spy on his Wife and eventually learn the truth. When he sees the Dog he just fought off at Filly, he decides to Stimpack it and save its life. He later finds the Current Dogmeat trapped in a Cooler at a Red Rocket. He didn’t have to save the dog these 2 times, but he did, because Dogs clearly remembered me him of a (slightly more) peaceful time, and bring out a long dormant, more altruistic side of him.
@@scubasqrl I think it was both. He can always use the job as justification to help the dog, but I didn't see anything in particular to suggest he stopped being a dog person.
@@scubasqrl If you watch the scene where Cooper gave the dog a stim pack you can see him comforting the dog. Which he didn't have to do but did it anyway because he likes dogs.
If a father would not do the same thing for any and all of his kids, then he isn't a real father, he is a make-believe father. A real father puts his family first.
He's a man (ghoul) on a mission. He lost everything and wants to get it back. He had to become the way he is to survive in the wasteland and accomplish his goal. Hard times make hard men or in this case a ghoul. Walton Goggins is one of my favorite actors and I'm glad he plays this character and does it so well.
Also, I just started playing Fallout 4 a few weeks ago for the first time and the line the Ghoul says about being sidetracked all the time is EXACTLY CORRECT!
Only kinda fallout story Bethesda knows how to tell! Fr tho can they Collab with the show writers on fo5 and maybe let us play as more than a vault dweller... Ya know, like an rpg... Less fun to rp when there are fewer r to p the g as.
He dropped the accent for that one. I think that should have confirmed for everyone that the Ghoul is a sort of persona he has developed to survive. Elements of the real Cooper come out when he was kind to the one retired NCR ranger's daughter who serving him food. He dropped the accent when he said "thank you darling" to her which shows she reminded him a lot of his daughter. We also saw it when he took dog meat with him. Him mercy killing his friend who was turning feral are all moments of him dropping the persona.
Barb didn't just drink Vault-Tec's Kool-Aid, she guzzled it down. Notice when she said, "one of the good vaults," then got questioned by Coop, she diverted the conversation. Then later at the dinner table, she downright got angry and confrontational when Coop questioned her about the rules. I'm guessing that Coop himself confronted his wife about what he heard and that was the cause of the divorce so Barb could distance herself from him. Maybe it's just me, but at 52:43 it sure looks like he's 'flipping the bird' at the screen and what he used to be.
was cooper famous cowboy quote "feo fuerte y formal" was actually symbolizing the three main fallout tv series characters? feo (ugly) = ghoul fuerte (strong) = maximus formal (dignity) = lucy
That's not a bad interpretation. Mind you, I've always felt that the show is like a sci-fi retelling of _The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly._ Lucy = The Good (Blonde) Maximus = The Ugly (Tuco) And… The Ghoul/Cooper Howard = The Bad (Angel Eyes/Setenza) It fits pretty well, given the context of the film and the motives of the how's three principal characters.
@@lonestar_iconoclastYou said it sooner and better than I could have! Lore-wise, it’s interesting to consider that the Good the Bad and the Ugly maybe never existed. Cooper Howard may very well be this universe’s version of Clint Eastwood… and not just on the surface level
Arguably the ghoul did help Lucy. He taught her some of what she needed to know about the waste land. Water bad, beware. People, mostly selfish and or bad, beware. Look out for yourself first. Assume no one cares. Be realistic.
Okay . . . if learning "water bad" is an acceptable thing to learn by drinking some without any medicine on hand, then how is this different from not learning? This sounds an awful lot like not teaching and making someone figure things out on their own.
When you hurt, you remember it. That is teaching yourself, to not do it again. No repeat mistakes. That's survival, no matter who teaches you, it won't sink-in until it hurts you, then you won't want to do that again. It is just one thing to tell someone, another to make them remember why, you don't do what you, unless you want to be in pain again. That's the lesson of a world of survival. You pass it on, by letting them hurt themselves. But yeah, you're right. Sometimes it is good to teach, another to let a person wise-up to the world they're trapped-in. That is what, this world is about. He doesn't coddle, he lets others wise-up, the way he did - the way she is getting there now.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 You've obviously never been around small children. You can tell a child over and over "don't touch that burner, it's hot." But until they burn their hand, they just don't get it. Learning to take direction from others who know better than yourself, is itself a learned trait. One, that most people, have to learn the hard way. The ghoul could have lectured Lucy that "drinking water is bad," but would she have listened? Probably not, since where she came from water was fine to drink. She had to learn the hard way that outdoor water could harm you.
@@jeromethiel4323 So first of all, how was she supposed to learn to take direction from someone who knows better than her if he never even bothered telling her the water was dangerous, and secondly how is he even "teaching her the hard way" if he doesn't even have any medicine on hand to keep this from killing her? How is this at all different from her wandering the wilderness on her own, drinking irradiated water on her own, learning the hard way on her own that doing so could kill her? Slapping contaminated water out of her hands would have qualified as tough love. Maybe even letting her drink bad water would fly, if he had medicine, and if he'd _bothered to say anything to her about it being poison._ You talk teaching small children (which is extremely weird in this context, that lady is clearly a grown adult), but even with small unreasonable children this isn't teaching. Actually in that case it would be criminal neglect. "No officer, I wasn't abusing this child, when I saw there was a hot burner down where he could touch it I knew he didn't know any better, so I just left it down there where he could still reach it so he could learn not to touch things when I say they're hot, and then I also didn't bother telling him it's hot. See, I'm teaching him. How else could he so safely acquire this knowledge, than in the presence of an adult who deliberately puts him in harm's way and then leaves him to figure it out himself?"
I also think The Ghoul didn't kill Titus the first time they met because he was just hunting a bounty and having fun. He kills the brotherhood knights because he now has a lead on his wife and they were in his way.
I think it had more to do with the fact that Maximus caught him at the wrong time; he had just emptied his pistol with the special ammo and had to switch to the rifle with normal bullets to face maximus, which apparently could not penetrate the weak spot in the welding. At the observatory he had the opportunity to load his gun with armor-piercing rounds so he could exploit the flaw.
I think he recognized that the person in that armor was barely an adult and that insight tugged at his conscience juuuuuust enough to stay his lethal hand.
Im with you on this one...hes got high perception and he's used power armor. So he can tell not onky by how clumsy max is but i also think part of it may also have to do with how max addresses him...we saw how the brotherhood vets were. Think about it, he sounds like a rookie cop on his 1st solo case lol...."stand down " lol 10 caps says most other knights would have just shot the ghoul on the spot without a word. Which made the fact he was gonna merk Lucy on the spot not mesh untill i realized oat likely it had a lot to do with being in a vault suit. Having not seen one in so long it prob made him feel some type of way. Later on he has multiple opportunities to merk her but he doesn't cuz hes had time to processe that shiznit.@rookhobbes9055
Walton Goggins stole the show. The other actors are amazing, but he's absolutely the cornerstone of show. The "load-bearing wall", so to speak. I'm really wanting to see the continuation of his story of what happened in between the bombs dropping and when we first see him dug up. Thank God for Oxhorn!!
Its the same white hat as well just as the ghoul its extremely dirty. You can really spot its the same hat in Filly with the sun on it. I have a theory about his family and him, I think he took the daughter to his wife who had a vault-tec vault spot for her but not him. Cooper himself proceeded on to Bakersfield and vault 12 as he mentioned Bakersfield in the show. Vault 12 of course was necropolis and turned all its residents into ghouls and this is how Cooper himself became a ghoul, which even more so increased his hate of Vault-Tec.
Personally I'm 100% certain Cooper's daughter is _dead._ He rode his horse with his daughter right through the radiation and the later radioactive dust fallout of the mushroom clouds. Looking at Hiroshima, everyone within the 1km zone around ground zero died. We see how close that one mushroom cloud in the valley was as he galloped along the hill road... maybe 2km away? The daughter must've died an agonizing death, same goes the horse. The total silence onwhat happened to her is telling... I suspect we will hear about her fate in Season 2. She clearly didn't become a ghoul. When Cooper asked "Where is my family?" I suspect deep down he knows, but has blocked out the memories of what happened to his daughter. As for his wife... I suspect she got a cushy spot in one of the _good_ Vault-Tec vault, potentially even in the "manager vault" (Vault 31).
@@manofwarbno bud is a throwaway character. Buds buds are a big misdirect. It’s not vault techs main vault. That’s where his wife is is the big reveal that the enclave and vault tech have been operating since the war collaboratively.
@@DayZeroChannel no, the reveal is that Vault 31 is that "main vault" and that Barb has been a "Bud's bud" all along. Notice the reveal of both Hank and Betty as being other "Bud's buds" both in the past and present. If the Enclave was going into a vault with the true wire pullers at Vault-tec, why did the President and his coterie hole up at the oil rig?
@@manofwarbBarb was a higher ranking executive, not an assistant. Equal to or higher than Bud. She said she was getting them a spot in the vault for management "overseeing all the other vaults". It is not vault 31.
@@golden_dusk If Barb is equal to or higher than Bud, then why does Betty talk to Hank in Barb's office? Why does Hank call Barb's home? Why don't we meet any other execs besides Bud's buds? Also, if there was a Super-Vault overseeing all vaults, why didn't they intervene before so many of their experiments failed? Why didn't anyone from this Vault step in to prevent Shaun from being thawed out and taken by the Institute? Why didn't they step in when 81's overseer sabotaged their experiment? Why didn't they rig the games to prevent House from annexing Vault 21? Why didn't they do something to stop the Enclave from slaughtering everyone in Vault 13? Or the Master from kidnapping everyone in Vault 17? Because this hypothetical super-vault does not exist.
As someone who has a history of PTSD partially stemming from betrayal, everything you described in your video was spot on. Betrayal really does shatter and change a Man.
I have never played the game. But what drew me to the show is Cooper Howard. It’s what keeps me interested. His story reverberates through the centuries and has so many implications. It breaks my heart.
Does that just mean the Cadillac surname is established? It just means a prominent person with the last name Cadillac existed and that Bob has some investment with whatever the Cadillac family established. Maybe they made guns in this universe?
Fallout 1 and 2 show that there are real-world companies that exist after the Divergence existing after it companies like Heckler & Koch, Sig Sauer, and Glock
This character is one of those really iconic roles that defines someones career, I'll always remember him now as the ghoul, so impacting, he steals every scene he's in. 👌🏼
I think the best parts of the show are the Pre War sections with Cooper Howard(obviously feeling similar to the F4 intro). Cooper listening to Vault Techs plans is the best scene in the show. I think it would be cool to have a Fallout prewar game, movie, or TV show. Also I wonder if Cooper met Nate in the war. It would be cool to see a conversation between the two.
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises Yeah, I was thinking of awesome moments with them talking about life at home and their families. Just sharing war stories. And if Cooper Howard is still alive at the end of the show, it would be pretty cool to imagine that he would meet Nate in the Commonwealth at some point.
That would presume Nate is the canonical survivor in FO4 - and many argue that he was. However, it is Nora we see on the Steam page. The one thing I hated in FO4 was Nora = lawyer, Nate = soldier narrative. I am female, I served in the Army - in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So that's how I approach Nora, a vet who used her GI BIll to get a degree in law. War never changes.
As a ps: I was a crew chief on Black Hawks (the medevac sort), so perhaps that is how Nora met Nate - as a crew member of a vertibird Nate was extracted by. Isn't head canon an awesome thing? lol
@@csb78nm OK first of all God bless you for your service. Also, yeah, I agree I wish Nora was in the military, but at the same time being a lawyer in the pre-war era for fallout would create some interesting backstories. Were you a decent lawyer(helping people in need) or a corrupt lawyer(being blindly loyal to the corrupt government)? Of course, same with Nate. Was he loyal to the crooked actions of the military?(Being that one power armor soldier in the fallout one intro) or did you act as a rebel(go against the immoral actions of the military. Be the hero of Anchorage). So many things that you can imagine for the sole Survivor. Also, I was talking about a conversation between these two in the prewar era but in the apocalypse, it would also be an interesting conversation.
48:00 Another thing that's worth pointing out is the Ghoul's accent. After Lucy shoots her mom dead, the Ghoul asks her "You coming?"...but he says with Cooper Howard's normal accent, not this put-upon Southern twang he normally uses as the Ghoul. Edit: It's one of two occasions where he slips back into Cooper Howard's normal voice. The other is in episode 7 when he's stroking Dogmeat while reminiscing about Roosevelt and saying, "Sorry, Dogmeat, but you ain't him."
That scene with Roger always makes me tear up man, every part of it just hits. It encompasses the Ghoul's immense tragedy and immense yet hit hidden capacity for humanity in one scene.
The director having that subtle reactions from her being SO OBVIOUS (yet entirely NOT obvious until you rewatch) is AMAZING. That was brilliant, and brilliant acting.
The Ghoul was my favorite part of the show. Or should say Cooper Howard over all. I count him as the main story of the show since he's the one that the viewer sees the before/past scenes so you can see how the world changed.
I'm at minute 14 right now, the thing where Cooper suggest moving to a ranch in Bakersfield. I noticed this when I watched the episode for the first time, so I'll share it here: Bakersfield has its own vault, Vault 12, but it's one that's designed not to seal properly, leading to the ghoulification of the entire populace and them founding the ghoul city of Necropolis after the war. So of cause Barb, knowing which vaults are "good" and which are rigged for experiments, promptly shuts Cooper's Bakersfield idea down
The Ghoul is a very strong example of a Lawful Evil character a lot of his actions are purpose driven but he does everything quite sadistically. I especially like how he's portrayed as Angel Eyes from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
i think barb needs to be one of the secondary villains in season 2. Maybe after he got Janey to her safely to go into cryo, she did something even more many years later, that selfishly kept her protected but maybe put the daughter in danger. and when coop finally confronts her, he might not give her the happy memory before killing her like he gave to Roger the ghoul. just showing further that he relates more with the wastelanders than with his old way of thinking. idk exactly, just that one way or another Barb needs to be found and confronted if she is alive
@@vanessarico369 I think (in a bit of tragic irony) she does love him or did love him...and that's WHY she went so all-in on whatever Vault Tec is doing. She decided years ago "my family is getting in a good vault, no matter what it takes" and it ends up being that decision that tears her family apart. It would mirror Hank MacLean: doing something really bad with the justification "I'm protecting my family", the family being horrified when they find out.
I felt when I heard her, she did love him. But I hear every red flag of a cheating spouse. Eventually the love is taken away because the new lover draws all her attention away. The lover in this case being Vault-Tec, and for her she is just doing for herself, because she no longer requires his love.
You think the ghoul didn't give her water because his water was already irradiated, as it doesn't affect him, and he dumped it on the ground for show , knowing Lucy didn't know it was irradiated?
It probably was irradiated. If I recall correctly, at one point he casually fills his canteen with dirty surface water. But not giving her a sip or telling her that it would be dangerous to her seemed more like him just being a nasty piece of work.
Yeah. That was my take. Drinking radiated water has to be her choice in his mind. He's not going to make her. And if he had just given her his water, she'd have thought he was poisoning her on purpose. And that wouldn't be right in his mind, casually poisoning her.
I always got the impression that he tried to make himself look meaner than he was. Like you pointed out he refused to give Lucy dirty water but made it look like he was just taunting her. He also spared and helped the dog repeatedly, but was able to maintain that he just needed it for tracking.
@@wolffang489 It depends on what you consider mean, really. I've occasionally been considered mean just because I was pragmatic. I would say the ghoul is largely pragmatic rather than actually cruel. The cruelest thing he does is to the bounty hunters in the first episode. But we don't have a full picture of his history with the guy's father or the guy who had him buried in the ground. Or a lot of things related to that scene. He also prefers to keep people at a distance after 200 some years. So he's cold to them. He also knows what prices in his soul he's willing to pay for things. He'd trade Lucy for his family. That was why he was willing to sell her for parts to get drugs. It wasn't personal. And it wasn't cruelty or a plan from the beginning. There was just a point decades ago when he decided "yep, I'm okay with selling people to death to continue surviving." The choice was made, and he wasn't going to change back now just because Lucy is cute and innocent. There may be things he was unwilling to do, but we don't know what they are. We know that if he has the time and money, he'll pay for things he could have stolen. We know he'll take the time to ease someone's suffering before a mercy killing. He just gets colder when something pops up between him and his goal and he has to overcome the obstacle.
If there was a cooper Howard mod for fallout 4 then this his what his likes and dislikes should be he likes it when you heal dogmeat buys dogs intimidation likes it when player uses chems Likes when player gets into power armor modifies weapons and armor loves it when player persuades for more caps Dislikes Hates it when you try resolve a situation peacefully dislikes when the player is too kind hates when you kill non hostile dogs Comment what else his dislikes and likes should be
The fact that he knew about Rodger's mother and subtly brought it up to lull him into feeling safe and happy... ouch. Remember, Cooper by that point was buried alive for a decade or more, so for him to remember such a small detail about someone he wouldn't have known that long? Also, since Rodger felt comfortable enough to ask Cooper for vials (something we see is precious to Ghouls and difficult to get?) suggests that Cooper probably gave Rodger vials some time in the past. Cooper seemed to genuinely care about Rodger.
At this point I don't think a 'happy ending' is the point of Cooper's quest to find his family. He just needs a resolution, an answer. If Barb *is* alive, then there is going to be a very interesting reunion. Not necessarily good, indeed almost certainly not good, but unavoidably interesting. As to their daughter, that could go any way, from glorious, redemptive reunion, to soul-crushing guilt and/or blame ridden tragedy. I am excited to find out which choices they make.
I dont know who, maybe an actor, maybe the writers.... But how wild is it that Someone while Making Fallout is going to think 'ok I gotta NAIL this, bc Oxhorn is gonna break this down and he'll catch my F-up'
yea basically. i think / hope video game adaptations are going to respect lore like this more often. hardcore fans like when it is done well like this, and casual fans will have a good 1:1 understanding of lore that can be transferred to the games once they start playing. just like how the fans of the show picked up and tried the games for the first time. respect to the show creators because they really only got a lil experimental with the brotherhood of steel faction. which is completely fine because each chapter (or region) of the brotherhood of steel are already pretty different from each other. they did so well dude
Considering some of the actors and other members of the team are clear fans of the series its entirely possible some expected it and probably thought it was an honor for Ox to poke at their work. And the fact this is one a good number of increasingly longer videos about the characters and setting I think they would be proud how invested in the YT Fallout lore master has gotten in the series.
Bethesda and Amazon put Cooper's special stats as 5 for strength, 6 for perception, 7 for endurance, 7 for charisma, 4 for intelligence, 7 for agility and 4 for luck.
@stvrob6320 I think that has to do with their stats in fallout shelter which are not super reliable. Technically fallout shelter can't be Canon by its very nature (I could make my own vault 111) and also characters from mainline games have different SPECIALS in fallout shelter than the main series game they are from.
@@edmartin875 And Cooper's had 200 years of Exp and sidequests in order to abuse the Special Training perks. He can have more than a base starting character in FO4 lmao
I disagree there was a lesson with not giving her the water. Clean Purified Water is one of the most valuable resources in the wasteland, if someone is giving it to you for free 9/10 there’s an ulterior motive. The lesson is don’t trust people and learn to do what it takes to survive. Plus that water was likely irradiated anyways.
I believe the "mystery" chem the ghoul uses to resist going feral is just RadX or Radaway since it seems to stop the radiation from affecting the brain even though the games never shows ghouls needing to take chems to avoid being feral but the show does seem to be canon and is adding bew lore to the franchise
I love that you discuss Barb's overwhelm over the fact that she knows the world is about to end and that the plan for after is messed up. It's an easily missed bit..
He starts as Roy Rogers and becomes Clint Eastwood. Considering Clint Eastwood played a character that was intended to be a deconstruction of the wild west hero I think the character is intended to let the writers and actor play around with the whole "duality of man" concept. Its why hes super compelling. And the audience can so easily latch on to the little quirks of his performance. We are eager to see those highs and lows and he's allowed to portray and experience them in his depiction without any kind of narrative dissonance. I do like that hes still wearing his original gold and blue outfit under the leather coat after all these years. Its a very obvious visual storytelling device that mirrors everything about him.
I am here to argue that the ghoul is smarter because he makes specialty ammo, you never see him buy them, but we know from new vegas and 76 that people can make ammo from scratch, and he has armor piercing explosive rounds that he used on the bos knights during the ncr raid
I love the the ghoul and his character arc. What i love even more is he looks to Lucy and his life but essentially created her character because she draws courage, strength and doing the right thing from the pip boy images and of course the experiment she was part of. She has no idea he is the man who inspired the pip boy character. This series is my all time favorite. This contrasts of enternal struggles each character is so well done you learn new things everytime you watch it
Oxhorn you know this show only happend because your fallout game story telling drummed up everyones love of fallout. Thank you this show is really good
@@edwardgoodwin9801people in the comments are saying you can see his special stats, but I don’t know about level. Level would be interesting but I think arbitrary for a show. Being alive for 200 years would stack some xp, and his specials aren’t maxed so I don’t think here leveled
I watched the first episode just out of curiosity knowing nothing about the series. I binged the entire thing glued to the set the whole time, what a fantastic surprise of quality.
Some of the Ghoul reminds me of the original Barnabas Collins, from Dark Shadows. Both had abysmal luck before they were turned, both were betrayed by the people they loved, both were locked away for a very long time, both became immoral and willing to do anything to meet their goals, both have a strong disposition towards their families, and both (or at least what we've seen with the Ghoul so far) have a long, painful road to redemption. Its no surprise that the Ghoul is a big hit. Back in its heyday Dark Shadows was popular enough to get two movies, comics, books, etc.
@@Thagomizerdidn’t ruin it, shady sands was growing so rapidly it engulfed the bone yard making it into one territory, (calling the entirety of it shady sands to reinstate ENTIRE states with such growth) therefore making it the first CAPITAL, meaning that wasn’t the first one, and we are going to see more. However in 2283 a nuclear bomb is dropped by launch codes sent from barb and hank, and more, blowing up central shady sands.
45:40 “made jerky out of his butt” the cut was actually back strap or cube roll, which is a really cool detail as it’s one of the best cuts of meat (on a cow at least), so not only is he preforming cannibalism, but he’s also leaving the “bad cuts” for Lucy to pick (if she wanted to eat)
The ghoul was my second favorite character in the show. He is a great character in a great show but I'm the type who always tries to like the protagonist. If you look at where my preferences lie in the games, Maximus should be my favorite but no it's Lucy. But this is about the ghoul. Who is an excellent, in depth character. I do love him so damn much. This is one of those shows that your favorite character is so hard to pick. My favorite quote of his is when Lucy mentions "The Golden Rule" and he tells her, " The wasteland has its own golden rule. " You will always get distracted by random bullshit along the way". Slightly misquoted but yeah.
Fantastic perspective on the Ghoul. I explained his behavior to my lady through the lens of how the games work. Lucy being the newbie player who usually makes the good, moral choice, and tries things not knowing you can't always win. Maximus being a second playthrough, when you purposely pick the alternate (usually bad) choice, just to see how rough it gets. The Ghoul is the player with hundreds of hours in the game, who has finished it a bunch of times. Pragmatic. Cold. Just looking to see how fast you can get through this thing, because these NPCs don't matter. Nothing matters. And plainly, being chaotic can be hilarious, especially when you know what to expect. Been there, done that--and he's been around long enough, that's true. He's literally played this game before. But in terms of the character, I think you nailed it. Never would have considered how crap his luck was, good point, and clearly his charisma is maxed out. The bit with Barb was bugging me, too. She did seem put off by him after a while. That he didn't see it is tragic. Interested in seeing where he goes from here. Thanks for the video!
I think I would put The Ghoul's Charisma at 9, and make INT 4. He may have had something in pre-war life where he increased his CHA so it's effectively 10. But Maximus is the 3 INT character. The Ghoul would have to have 4. Between 3-4 INT is when you get the Low INT dialogue or not.
Yep. Ghoul is street smart in all aspects of bounty hunting. He can decuct motives, and analyse behavior. But in Fallout int really stands for knowledge in science and robotics overall. Wich beyond maybe weapon maintenance for non energy weapons he does not have.
I think the "No dogs in the Vault" pairs well with Roosevelt being Cooper's 'conscious' and 'sounding board' as you put it. If Roosevelt is his conscious, "No dogs in the Vault" essentially translates to "No thoughts in the Vault" which is when he finally realises that VT is up to no good. As a ghoul, it's only when he is introduced to Dogmeat that he starts to, albeit slowly, regain that part of him. Him healing Dogmeat is the first time we see him act compassionately as The Ghoul, and from there on it seems he starts to internally question the things he does. Dogmeat is that return of his humanity, so to speak. I'm only 20 minutes in so, sorry if this same conclusion is came to later in the video, I just HAD to get my thoughts down lol.
Cooper just made me think more about that idea I've brought up about a CIA or MI6 agent turned ghoul, still at it 200 years after the big boom, but not a mean poopoo head like Desmond Lockheart from Point Lookout. More like Daniel Craig as James Bond, with a bit more of a good reason to be mopey than Craig has.
When he's supposed to be the secondary character but steals the show. Even my father remembered the actor from the Tarantino movies and admitted he did an outstanding job
Man, Cooper is such an amazing character and I can't wait to see where his story goes in the next season. And I just can't get over Walton's acting in the scene where he learns they are planning on dropping the bombs. The way his face changes, you can see tears starting to form in is eyes. And when he turns to face Hank when he finally get into the room he just looks so devastated. And I love his dynamic with Lucy, now they are traveling together it will be interesting to see how they continue to influence each other. I'm so glad I watched this show.
I have a soft spot for Hancock so its no big leap that Coop would be my fav show character. Kinda reminds me of a gen x ghoul. I have a sneaky thought that we're going to find Janey as a perpetual 7 year old and accordingly, a synth. Could Coop kill a synth daughter? In any case, it would be a fantastic way to introduce the Institute to people who have only seen the show and not stepped a virtual step into the world most of us know. Thanks for the new content, Ox! I could watch you all day.
Woah Janey being a synth is a great idea and a smart prediction. I think that would be such an interesting twist! I’m guessing Barb’s high status would have granted her and Janey a method of immortality to keep Vault-Tec going. If Janey and Barb are together, maybe Cooper will have to persuade his daughter out of Vault-Tex’s brainwashing.
@@littlevenom to add an extra thought... Billy the kid is a ghoul child. Maybe we'll get a Janey ghoul. Or both. A ghoul child for Coop, a synth child for Barb. I could see Coop finding his family with a synth Janey and traveling the wastelands for his ghoul child. Finale: finding her. 🤷
@@duzitickle3544 now that I think about it, I haven’t played EVERY Fallout game quite yet, (but working on it!,) My question is, are hybrids a thing? Gulpers likely came from people being worked on, so is it possible for a human to also become part ghoul/part human? Or part synth/part human? I wouldn’t doubt pregnancies above ground are often born stillborn, but what if some survive? Could they have some kind of immunity, or power? Everyone knows radiation can cause mutations…
@@littlevenom i remember in i think it was a fallout 3 dlc that there was a baby born that was actually born with immunity to stuff like radiation, like an evolution/natural selection thing so id guess that youre right im pretty sure that some of them do survive with immunity
@littlevenom Yes, apparently, the Children of Atom members have an immunity to radiation in some capacity. Also, Kellog had quite a few synth augmentations.
_Demons run when a good man goes to war Night will fall and drown the sun When a good man goes to war Friendship dies and true love lies Night will fall, and the dark will rise When a good man goes to war Demons run, but count the cost The battle's won, but the child is lost._ ~ *_Doctor Who,_* Series Six, Episode Seven I think that much pretty sums up the ghoulified Cooper Howard.
The Ghoul character has been my favorite since first episode. The stark contrast between Cooper and the current Ghoul merc/bounty hunter is relatable based upon what he has been through.
I love the fact this show named a kingpin after Actor Sorell Booker, the man who played Boss Hogg in the Dukes of Hazzard tv series; in the many instances I've seen him I knew he was a references to him - dressing alike and has dumb corrupt officers to boot - but the name escape me. Wasn't reminded until yesterday, when my brother sent me a image of the Get Smart complete box set and below it there is the Dukes of Hazzard.
Bringing the dog back I think was the first little hint of him reviving his conscience. He spends a stimpak on the dog, what just about anyone else would consider wasteful.
A favorite character of mine. And I like the flash backs to the pre-war days. "Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink". We know he's a learned person, quoting a line from classic poetry. A person who has suffered betrayal at all levels. Vault-tec would have done damage control if they found out he learned their plans, by destroying him in the public eye. Labeling Cooper a communist would have destroyed his image, reputation and his word. No one would want to be associated with him. He's lucky to be playing in kid's birthday parties. Can't wait for season 2. He can learn some more while traveling with Lucy and she can learn off him about survival in the wastes.
He was trying to "teach her" the same way an abusive husband "teaches" his wife when he hits her. The lesson... such as it is... is "I'm the one with the fist, so respect and obey me" It's a sign of how far Howard as changed as a character. It's unimaginable that pre-war coop could actually act this way. Heck, he wasn't even comfortable with playing at exerting that type of authority in a movie. But here, after 200 years of desperation, abuse, and cynicism, he become the very thing he would have other wise opposed and sees no issue with knocking Lucy over just to see how high she'll bounce on impact.
After several viewings, I am convinced Coop was a cowboy who joined the Army (out of Patriotism) and became a movie star after his tour of duty. The remarks about "raisimg chickens" seemed a desire to return to a past, simple life.
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I'm pretty sure he was only refilling his canteen with irradiated water, and I think he probably had a suspicion that she could handle the surgery bot.
Thanks for making! I loved the detail you mentioned about giving happy thought before killing his ghoul friend. Such a legendary move!
Lore says no one knows who dropped the bombs first! I think you did video on this! But from TV show does that change lore that vault tek did??
Odd question, why don't we only see 1 pool in all of the fallout games?
@johnfodo4129 we still don't know because all she did was suggest dropping the bombs, not saying it did not happen though.
"Do you want another autograph young Henry?"
That line lives rent free in my head
seriously man, the fact he said it like that was so damn good, the fact he is 2 centuries old as well.
@@benben3277what makes it even more threatening is that the ghoul immediately recognised him after presumably not seeing him since that day 200 years ago
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104guarantee theyd interacted more. will be in s2
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104 I mean, a man that you can lay the blame of making your wife and daughter disappear on D day, or at least point you in the right direction.
Same
man got 200 years of doing side quest so he can properly solo Vault-tec/Enclave if needed.
He ignored the main quest line until it was required like we all did! 😂😂
@@SerialSpiller Lol naw Coop just didn't have Bethesda hand holding on his quest. It took him 200 years to find out where to go. He's probably hoping to find his wife and kid or, at least, what happened to them.
The most meta comment yet. 👏🏻
@@michaelcluverius1296 he didnt have the pip boy for a map. he had nothing to track quests. understandable delay.
Lmaooo hell yeah
Honestly the ghoul was my favourite piece of the show. How a loving husband, father, actor. Could become a hurt and bitter “monster” who would hurt and kill anyone he had to, to stop himself from becoming feral. which is understandable after we see why he still kept fighting to live with as much of his mind as he could to get justice to the evil company that destroyed everything he knew and loved. Just to get rid of war. Something that can never end, because people will always find a reason to kill eachother
I think, that his family were denied the entrance to the vault,so, that's why his wife and daughter not in 31,and that's why he asked Hank about their whereabouts!!
@@DuneRunnerEnterpriseshis whistleblowing likely comes to a head in season two with it getting exposed he listened to her, she gets fired, they divorce, she doesn’t know the date the bombs drop and they lose they’re daughter because of it, or what I think is more likely, to explain why he’s looking for her; she divorced him but STILL had a spot reserved in vault 31 or something, basically abandoning him and their daughter to a fiery grave thinking she’s never have to deal with it and he lived as a ghoul. I think that would be far more interesting, it shows the hubris of a powerful woman, she created this family she’s the glue she can discard it when it’s inconvenient to her and start another more cooperative family it would make her the more realistic and more terrifying feminine villain portrayed in the past decade. An apathetic or doomsday bringing mother instead of patriarchal father? That’s unique that’s interesting, that’s a good take.
I think she’s going to be a main villain of the series.
@@dococ3272I really doubt it, the main villain part that is. But it infuriates me when people forget the small detail that Vault 31 is home to JUNIOR Executives. Barb isn’t a junior executive and couldn’t be in 31. If she was, The Ghoul could’ve forced Lucy to reveal the location to Vault 33, a vault interconnected to two other vaults that housed the frozen junior executives
@@droidmaker7932 oh good point. I still think she’ll be a main villain, considering he’s still looking for her, and doesn’t look like it’s cuz he misses her lol; I also couldn’t fathom a non villainous mother leaving her ex hubby and daughter out to get baked in her plan to wipe out most of humanity…; but you are right she was a senior not junior executive, no way she’s in 31.
@@dococ3272 I didn’t say not a villain, I said not the main villain. Barb’s a villain for sure but not the big bad. In the board meeting, Barb looked up to we, the audience, see a shadowy silhouette seeming to look at Barb when the meeting was not going to plan to whoever was watching them in the shadows. It’s speculated to be a member of the Enclave which shouldn’t be surprising since they and Vault-Tec were responsible for the social and scientific experiments happening across America to unsuspecting vault dwellers.
“I don’t want to end up in a cellar under the bootheel of chairman Bud Askin”
This line was gold.
Yeah bud Askins is the opposite of what America is supposed to stand for he's more like the the Communist Soviet Union and China and the fascist Nazi Germany and Italy.
*cut to Vault 33
18:10 I had forgotten about that exchange. Great writing and acting.
Cut to vault 4
the best part is how bud askin often sounds like Butt Asskin
1 note about the Special stats: He has to have at least a 4 in luck, because he has the Bloody Mess perk enabled. And even though he turned ghoul, he did survive the bombs.
he has had 200 years of XP gain so his special stats are probably extra high if he invested in the intense training perk
Interesting thought, what's luckier? Dying or becoming a ghoul?
He also had the luck of lucy emptying out the super duper mart saving him, and leaving him to loot the rest of the drugs. She has higher luck seeing as how she survived the organ harvesting. And he has lower luck seeing as how the ‘law came in and apprehended him. That being said… led him to maldaver. So kind of hard to determine. Definitely below 5 luck worse than average lol
@@xColton24 Well, if he'd died in the explosion, his daughter would have died with him, and his last thoughts would have been about failing her.
So I'm going to vote ghoul is luckier.
Surviving over 200 years without going feral when you have unfinished business you really want to complete seems super lucky and unlikely, at least as they're setting it up in the show. The other guy survived what, 29 years?
Things like that are why I don't know about his luck.
@@jenniferhansesBeing born in the wasteland would make sense that you'd go feral faster.
One thing I like in this story is the “hardening” of Lucy from her Naivety via the ghoul, and the “softening” of the ghoul from his nihilism via Lucy. I saw this represented via the Ghoul grafting Lucy’s “clean & uncorrupted” finger onto his hand, while Lucy gets a “dirty and corrupted” ghoul finger grafted onto her hand in the organ harvesting facility
Why is this written like a school homework assignment?
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ because the dead internet theory is no longer a theory, we are swimming in AI generated 'content' (spam) and it will only get worse and worse on the big platforms, search engines are montization incentivized and you won't find good stuff anymore through the usual means.
We're going underground! and taking the school with it
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ maybe because when that's how people are taught to write, it's how they write 🤯
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ Maybe because school taught us to analyse people's behavior via writing essays about characters of books, movies etc.?
It wasnt his finger she had grafted, but i see you friend.
The scene where the Ghoul talks to his friend turning feral before he puts him out of his misery is one of the best scenes in the series, it shows the humanity still left in Cooper and how he's losing everyone he's known one person at a time. They obviously go way back... then after the glimpse of humanity... "that ass jerky won't make itself" he returns to his wasteland cynicism. Another friend gone... another brick in the wall.
"i ain't torturing you sweetheart, I'm using you as bait"-Cooper 🎣
That whole scene goes hard.
"Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time" has to be his best, though.
Its "shweethart".
I think a good side of Cooper Howard does indeed still exist. This comes out in one key way: Dogs. Pre-War, Cooper hearing that Dogs aren’t allowed in the Vaults are what motivated him to spy on his Wife and eventually learn the truth. When he sees the Dog he just fought off at Filly, he decides to Stimpack it and save its life. He later finds the Current Dogmeat trapped in a Cooler at a Red Rocket. He didn’t have to save the dog these 2 times, but he did, because Dogs clearly remembered me him of a (slightly more) peaceful time, and bring out a long dormant, more altruistic side of him.
Cooper being like: No dogs in the Vault?! The heck with this! I'm just going to become a radioactive raisin!
Yes I didn't notice the dogs but I also think Lucy plays a big role now. She reminds him of what it's like to be decent
@@scubasqrl I think it was both. He can always use the job as justification to help the dog, but I didn't see anything in particular to suggest he stopped being a dog person.
@@scubasqrl If you watch the scene where Cooper gave the dog a stim pack you can see him comforting the dog. Which he didn't have to do but did it anyway because he likes dogs.
I think Dogmeat reminded him that only one thing has been loyal to him his whole life...a dog. And he just couldn't bear to let this one go.
Watching Cooper try to save his daughter, even knowing that it's probably pointless, will never stop breaking my heart.
If a father would not do the same thing for any and all of his kids, then he isn't a real father, he is a make-believe father. A real father puts his family first.
Walton Goggins is SO. FREAKING. GOOD.
Perfect choice for this Ghoul
Always. He stole the show in Justified and Sons of Anarchy lol
@@MC-zr7hl
Ain't no argument there.
Walton MOGgins
He's a man (ghoul) on a mission. He lost everything and wants to get it back. He had to become the way he is to survive in the wasteland and accomplish his goal. Hard times make hard men or in this case a ghoul. Walton Goggins is one of my favorite actors and I'm glad he plays this character and does it so well.
Also, I just started playing Fallout 4 a few weeks ago for the first time and the line the Ghoul says about being sidetracked all the time is EXACTLY CORRECT!
He's just a simple man trying to make his way through the wasteland like Boba Fett is a simple man trying to make his way through the galaxy.
A main character looking for his family, a fallout classic. SHAUN!
Father*
Only kinda fallout story Bethesda knows how to tell! Fr tho can they Collab with the show writers on fo5 and maybe let us play as more than a vault dweller... Ya know, like an rpg... Less fun to rp when there are fewer r to p the g as.
new Vegas: who the hell shot me?
They even got the part right where it takes two hundred years to finally get around to following the main questline to its conclusion.
@Markone99maybe do a Skyrim type intro
When the Ghoul comes face to face with Hank you can tell in that moment it was Cooper that asked, where's my fkn family 🙏
He dropped the accent for that one. I think that should have confirmed for everyone that the Ghoul is a sort of persona he has developed to survive.
Elements of the real Cooper come out when he was kind to the one retired NCR ranger's daughter who serving him food. He dropped the accent when he said "thank you darling" to her which shows she reminded him a lot of his daughter. We also saw it when he took dog meat with him. Him mercy killing his friend who was turning feral are all moments of him dropping the persona.
I like how he said "where's my family?", and not just "where's my daughter?". Means he still loves and misses Barb, despite their falling out.
That scene must've been surreal for the both of them. They both saw ghosts of the past. 👻
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Barb didn't just drink Vault-Tec's Kool-Aid, she guzzled it down. Notice when she said, "one of the good vaults," then got questioned by Coop, she diverted the conversation. Then later at the dinner table, she downright got angry and confrontational when Coop questioned her about the rules. I'm guessing that Coop himself confronted his wife about what he heard and that was the cause of the divorce so Barb could distance herself from him.
Maybe it's just me, but at 52:43 it sure looks like he's 'flipping the bird' at the screen and what he used to be.
How about how her face changes from worried crying to immediate relief when she hugs him. Cuz he's believing her for the moment.
I wouldn't be surprised if, in another flashback, Cooper gives Barb the listening device.
He's flipping himself off at 33:00 ish minutes in too
was cooper famous cowboy quote "feo fuerte y formal" was actually symbolizing the three main fallout tv series characters?
feo (ugly) = ghoul
fuerte (strong) = maximus
formal (dignity) = lucy
That's not a bad interpretation. Mind you, I've always felt that the show is like a sci-fi retelling of _The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly._
Lucy = The Good (Blonde)
Maximus = The Ugly (Tuco)
And…
The Ghoul/Cooper Howard = The Bad (Angel Eyes/Setenza)
It fits pretty well, given the context of the film and the motives of the how's three principal characters.
You can also make an argument they all apply to him. Or, well. 2 out of three on that front, at the start of the show.
The tri-force of Fallout! 🤣
@@lonestar_iconoclastYou said it sooner and better than I could have!
Lore-wise, it’s interesting to consider that the Good the Bad and the Ugly maybe never existed. Cooper Howard may very well be this universe’s version of Clint Eastwood… and not just on the surface level
Nga Maximus ain’t strong 😂
14:11 Coop's wife wasn't thrilled about his idea to move close to Bakersfield cos she knew that Vault 12 wasn't one of the "good ones".
Isn't vault 12 on the east coast of DC in the capital wasteland
@@RocksBlasterNo it’s in Bakersfield, CA. The door was designed not to seal so the residents turned into ghouls and formed the Necropolis
@chriss3208 wait isn't that the vault in fallout 1 in necroplus
@@RocksBlaster Yes it is, I think the one you are thinking of in Fallout 3 is vault 112 the one where you find your dad
@chriss3208 oh damn I got it mixed up lol
Arguably the ghoul did help Lucy. He taught her some of what she needed to know about the waste land. Water bad, beware. People, mostly selfish and or bad, beware. Look out for yourself first. Assume no one cares. Be realistic.
That sort of trial by fire tough love is actually so much more common than people think.
Okay . . . if learning "water bad" is an acceptable thing to learn by drinking some without any medicine on hand, then how is this different from not learning? This sounds an awful lot like not teaching and making someone figure things out on their own.
When you hurt, you remember it.
That is teaching yourself, to not do it again. No repeat mistakes.
That's survival, no matter who teaches you, it won't sink-in until it hurts you, then you won't want to do that again.
It is just one thing to tell someone, another to make them remember why, you don't do what you, unless you want to be in pain again.
That's the lesson of a world of survival.
You pass it on, by letting them hurt themselves.
But yeah, you're right. Sometimes it is good to teach, another to let a person wise-up to the world they're trapped-in.
That is what, this world is about.
He doesn't coddle, he lets others wise-up, the way he did - the way she is getting there now.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 You've obviously never been around small children. You can tell a child over and over "don't touch that burner, it's hot." But until they burn their hand, they just don't get it. Learning to take direction from others who know better than yourself, is itself a learned trait. One, that most people, have to learn the hard way.
The ghoul could have lectured Lucy that "drinking water is bad," but would she have listened? Probably not, since where she came from water was fine to drink. She had to learn the hard way that outdoor water could harm you.
@@jeromethiel4323
So first of all, how was she supposed to learn to take direction from someone who knows better than her if he never even bothered telling her the water was dangerous, and secondly how is he even "teaching her the hard way" if he doesn't even have any medicine on hand to keep this from killing her? How is this at all different from her wandering the wilderness on her own, drinking irradiated water on her own, learning the hard way on her own that doing so could kill her? Slapping contaminated water out of her hands would have qualified as tough love. Maybe even letting her drink bad water would fly, if he had medicine, and if he'd _bothered to say anything to her about it being poison._
You talk teaching small children (which is extremely weird in this context, that lady is clearly a grown adult), but even with small unreasonable children this isn't teaching. Actually in that case it would be criminal neglect. "No officer, I wasn't abusing this child, when I saw there was a hot burner down where he could touch it I knew he didn't know any better, so I just left it down there where he could still reach it so he could learn not to touch things when I say they're hot, and then I also didn't bother telling him it's hot. See, I'm teaching him. How else could he so safely acquire this knowledge, than in the presence of an adult who deliberately puts him in harm's way and then leaves him to figure it out himself?"
I also think The Ghoul didn't kill Titus the first time they met because he was just hunting a bounty and having fun. He kills the brotherhood knights because he now has a lead on his wife and they were in his way.
I think it had more to do with the fact that Maximus caught him at the wrong time; he had just emptied his pistol with the special ammo and had to switch to the rifle with normal bullets to face maximus, which apparently could not penetrate the weak spot in the welding. At the observatory he had the opportunity to load his gun with armor-piercing rounds so he could exploit the flaw.
@@quantum340 The Ghoul did use his pistol near the end of the engagement, but honestly, it seemed more like he was having fun than anything
I think he recognized that the person in that armor was barely an adult and that insight tugged at his conscience juuuuuust enough to stay his lethal hand.
Im with you on this one...hes got high perception and he's used power armor. So he can tell not onky by how clumsy max is but i also think part of it may also have to do with how max addresses him...we saw how the brotherhood vets were. Think about it, he sounds like a rookie cop on his 1st solo case lol...."stand down " lol 10 caps says most other knights would have just shot the ghoul on the spot without a word. Which made the fact he was gonna merk Lucy on the spot not mesh untill i realized oat likely it had a lot to do with being in a vault suit. Having not seen one in so long it prob made him feel some type of way. Later on he has multiple opportunities to merk her but he doesn't cuz hes had time to processe that shiznit.@rookhobbes9055
Didn’t the armor he was wearing have some type of upgrade on it? Max mentions it to Titus on the Vertibird
Walton Goggins stole the show. The other actors are amazing, but he's absolutely the cornerstone of show. The "load-bearing wall", so to speak. I'm really wanting to see the continuation of his story of what happened in between the bombs dropping and when we first see him dug up. Thank God for Oxhorn!!
Its the same white hat as well just as the ghoul its extremely dirty. You can really spot its the same hat in Filly with the sun on it.
I have a theory about his family and him, I think he took the daughter to his wife who had a vault-tec vault spot for her but not him. Cooper himself proceeded on to Bakersfield and vault 12 as he mentioned Bakersfield in the show. Vault 12 of course was necropolis and turned all its residents into ghouls and this is how Cooper himself became a ghoul, which even more so increased his hate of Vault-Tec.
Personally I'm 100% certain Cooper's daughter is _dead._ He rode his horse with his daughter right through the radiation and the later radioactive dust fallout of the mushroom clouds. Looking at Hiroshima, everyone within the 1km zone around ground zero died. We see how close that one mushroom cloud in the valley was as he galloped along the hill road... maybe 2km away? The daughter must've died an agonizing death, same goes the horse. The total silence onwhat happened to her is telling... I suspect we will hear about her fate in Season 2. She clearly didn't become a ghoul.
When Cooper asked "Where is my family?" I suspect deep down he knows, but has blocked out the memories of what happened to his daughter. As for his wife... I suspect she got a cushy spot in one of the _good_ Vault-Tec vault, potentially even in the "manager vault" (Vault 31).
I love this theory. That actually makes a lot of sense too.
Damn chef keep cooking. I wonder if the writers ever read these like “yo write that shit down it’s canon now”
But didn't he ask hank where his family was
@@shadow_the_wanderer He took the daughter to his wife, he does not know where the control vault she went to is.
The ghoul was 100% the best part of the show. I'm hoping for a Kill Bill 2 style surprise in the next series 😂
In this instance, wouldn't that be Kill Bud??
@@manofwarbno bud is a throwaway character. Buds buds are a big misdirect. It’s not vault techs main vault. That’s where his wife is is the big reveal that the enclave and vault tech have been operating since the war collaboratively.
@@DayZeroChannel no, the reveal is that Vault 31 is that "main vault" and that Barb has been a "Bud's bud" all along. Notice the reveal of both Hank and Betty as being other "Bud's buds" both in the past and present.
If the Enclave was going into a vault with the true wire pullers at Vault-tec, why did the President and his coterie hole up at the oil rig?
@@manofwarbBarb was a higher ranking executive, not an assistant. Equal to or higher than Bud. She said she was getting them a spot in the vault for management "overseeing all the other vaults". It is not vault 31.
@@golden_dusk If Barb is equal to or higher than Bud, then why does Betty talk to Hank in Barb's office? Why does Hank call Barb's home? Why don't we meet any other execs besides Bud's buds? Also, if there was a Super-Vault overseeing all vaults, why didn't they intervene before so many of their experiments failed?
Why didn't anyone from this Vault step in to prevent Shaun from being thawed out and taken by the Institute? Why didn't they step in when 81's overseer sabotaged their experiment? Why didn't they rig the games to prevent House from annexing Vault 21? Why didn't they do something to stop the Enclave from slaughtering everyone in Vault 13? Or the Master from kidnapping everyone in Vault 17?
Because this hypothetical super-vault does not exist.
As someone who has a history of PTSD partially stemming from betrayal, everything you described in your video was spot on. Betrayal really does shatter and change a Man.
I have never played the game. But what drew me to the show is Cooper Howard. It’s what keeps me interested. His story reverberates through the centuries and has so many implications. It breaks my heart.
A man nicknamed "Cadillac Bob" suggests the brand Cadillac actually exists in the Fallout Universe...
Does that just mean the Cadillac surname is established? It just means a prominent person with the last name Cadillac existed and that Bob has some investment with whatever the Cadillac family established. Maybe they made guns in this universe?
Of course Cadillacs exist. It's all 50s themed. There was never any question.
Maybe he just was from northern Michigan.
The Glock company also exists too cause they made the Plasma Pistols from One
Fallout 1 and 2 show that there are real-world companies that exist after the Divergence existing after it companies like Heckler & Koch, Sig Sauer, and Glock
This character is one of those really iconic roles that defines someones career, I'll always remember him now as the ghoul, so impacting, he steals every scene he's in. 👌🏼
I think the best parts of the show are the Pre War sections with Cooper Howard(obviously feeling similar to the F4 intro). Cooper listening to Vault Techs plans is the best scene in the show. I think it would be cool to have a Fallout prewar game, movie, or TV show. Also I wonder if Cooper met Nate in the war. It would be cool to see a conversation between the two.
Yeah!!!!
Meeting Nate at the battlefield,when he tells Cooper about his wife and kid!!!
That's would be GREAT!!!!
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises Yeah, I was thinking of awesome moments with them talking about life at home and their families. Just sharing war stories. And if Cooper Howard is still alive at the end of the show, it would be pretty cool to imagine that he would meet Nate in the Commonwealth at some point.
That would presume Nate is the canonical survivor in FO4 - and many argue that he was. However, it is Nora we see on the Steam page. The one thing I hated in FO4 was Nora = lawyer, Nate = soldier narrative. I am female, I served in the Army - in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So that's how I approach Nora, a vet who used her GI BIll to get a degree in law. War never changes.
As a ps: I was a crew chief on Black Hawks (the medevac sort), so perhaps that is how Nora met Nate - as a crew member of a vertibird Nate was extracted by. Isn't head canon an awesome thing? lol
@@csb78nm OK first of all God bless you for your service. Also, yeah, I agree I wish Nora was in the military, but at the same time being a lawyer in the pre-war era for fallout would create some interesting backstories. Were you a decent lawyer(helping people in need) or a corrupt lawyer(being blindly loyal to the corrupt government)? Of course, same with Nate. Was he loyal to the crooked actions of the military?(Being that one power armor soldier in the fallout one intro) or did you act as a rebel(go against the immoral actions of the military. Be the hero of Anchorage). So many things that you can imagine for the sole Survivor. Also, I was talking about a conversation between these two in the prewar era but in the apocalypse, it would also be an interesting conversation.
“Where’s my fucking family.” Is one of the hardest lines in the fallout show
One thing to note, he didn't go from a white hat to a brown one. It's the same hat, just with 200 years of dirt and grime on it now.
Good point
48:00 Another thing that's worth pointing out is the Ghoul's accent. After Lucy shoots her mom dead, the Ghoul asks her "You coming?"...but he says with Cooper Howard's normal accent, not this put-upon Southern twang he normally uses as the Ghoul.
Edit: It's one of two occasions where he slips back into Cooper Howard's normal voice. The other is in episode 7 when he's stroking Dogmeat while reminiscing about Roosevelt and saying, "Sorry, Dogmeat, but you ain't him."
The ghoul represents us, the players. Walton Goggins played a character he liked playing, and we reaped the reward of his craft. I am so grateful.
That scene with Roger always makes me tear up man, every part of it just hits. It encompasses the Ghoul's immense tragedy and immense yet hit hidden capacity for humanity in one scene.
The director having that subtle reactions from her being SO OBVIOUS (yet entirely NOT obvious until you rewatch) is AMAZING. That was brilliant, and brilliant acting.
The Ghoul was my favorite part of the show. Or should say Cooper Howard over all. I count him as the main story of the show since he's the one that the viewer sees the before/past scenes so you can see how the world changed.
I'm at minute 14 right now, the thing where Cooper suggest moving to a ranch in Bakersfield. I noticed this when I watched the episode for the first time, so I'll share it here: Bakersfield has its own vault, Vault 12, but it's one that's designed not to seal properly, leading to the ghoulification of the entire populace and them founding the ghoul city of Necropolis after the war. So of cause Barb, knowing which vaults are "good" and which are rigged for experiments, promptly shuts Cooper's Bakersfield idea down
The ghouls whole storyline is heartbreaking
I didn’t make some of these connections during my watches of the show. Great video
The Ghoul is a very strong example of a Lawful Evil character a lot of his actions are purpose driven but he does everything quite sadistically. I especially like how he's portrayed as Angel Eyes from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
Shattered or killed by betrayal... Is how most Good Men go...
i think barb needs to be one of the secondary villains in season 2. Maybe after he got Janey to her safely to go into cryo, she did something even more many years later, that selfishly kept her protected but maybe put the daughter in danger. and when coop finally confronts her, he might not give her the happy memory before killing her like he gave to Roger the ghoul. just showing further that he relates more with the wastelanders than with his old way of thinking. idk exactly, just that one way or another Barb needs to be found and confronted if she is alive
Yeah, let's make it Texan standoff!!
The Ghoul - against his wife!!
When she realises, what he went through....
I honestly felt like Barb didnt really love him and that she married him solely for the fact that he was an actor and what he could do for her.
@@vanessarico369 I think (in a bit of tragic irony) she does love him or did love him...and that's WHY she went so all-in on whatever Vault Tec is doing. She decided years ago "my family is getting in a good vault, no matter what it takes" and it ends up being that decision that tears her family apart.
It would mirror Hank MacLean: doing something really bad with the justification "I'm protecting my family", the family being horrified when they find out.
I felt when I heard her, she did love him. But I hear every red flag of a cheating spouse. Eventually the love is taken away because the new lover draws all her attention away. The lover in this case being Vault-Tec, and for her she is just doing for herself, because she no longer requires his love.
@@vanessarico369 I think she started out loving him but now she's just so done with him. That hug from behind really seemed to annoy her...
You think the ghoul didn't give her water because his water was already irradiated, as it doesn't affect him, and he dumped it on the ground for show , knowing Lucy didn't know it was irradiated?
It probably was irradiated. If I recall correctly, at one point he casually fills his canteen with dirty surface water. But not giving her a sip or telling her that it would be dangerous to her seemed more like him just being a nasty piece of work.
Yeah. That was my take. Drinking radiated water has to be her choice in his mind. He's not going to make her.
And if he had just given her his water, she'd have thought he was poisoning her on purpose. And that wouldn't be right in his mind, casually poisoning her.
Il thought he was being an asshole but your theory make sense
I always got the impression that he tried to make himself look meaner than he was. Like you pointed out he refused to give Lucy dirty water but made it look like he was just taunting her. He also spared and helped the dog repeatedly, but was able to maintain that he just needed it for tracking.
@@wolffang489 It depends on what you consider mean, really. I've occasionally been considered mean just because I was pragmatic. I would say the ghoul is largely pragmatic rather than actually cruel.
The cruelest thing he does is to the bounty hunters in the first episode. But we don't have a full picture of his history with the guy's father or the guy who had him buried in the ground. Or a lot of things related to that scene.
He also prefers to keep people at a distance after 200 some years. So he's cold to them.
He also knows what prices in his soul he's willing to pay for things. He'd trade Lucy for his family. That was why he was willing to sell her for parts to get drugs. It wasn't personal. And it wasn't cruelty or a plan from the beginning. There was just a point decades ago when he decided "yep, I'm okay with selling people to death to continue surviving." The choice was made, and he wasn't going to change back now just because Lucy is cute and innocent.
There may be things he was unwilling to do, but we don't know what they are. We know that if he has the time and money, he'll pay for things he could have stolen. We know he'll take the time to ease someone's suffering before a mercy killing. He just gets colder when something pops up between him and his goal and he has to overcome the obstacle.
If there was a cooper Howard mod for fallout 4 then this his what his likes and dislikes should be he likes it when you heal dogmeat buys dogs intimidation likes it when player uses chems
Likes when player gets into power armor modifies weapons and armor loves it when player persuades for more caps
Dislikes
Hates it when you try resolve a situation peacefully dislikes when the player is too kind hates when you kill non hostile dogs
Comment what else his dislikes and likes should be
So basically a ghoul Cait
Doesnt every companion like it when dogmeat gets healed?
Makes no sense, fo4 already got hancock
@@DeathDeath666its a mod idea no need to get worked up over it bro
@@rebeccasutton2401except x6 and strong
I love how he knew Roger would tell that story. The ghoul is a listener. He has more empathy than most.
The fact that he knew about Rodger's mother and subtly brought it up to lull him into feeling safe and happy... ouch. Remember, Cooper by that point was buried alive for a decade or more, so for him to remember such a small detail about someone he wouldn't have known that long? Also, since Rodger felt comfortable enough to ask Cooper for vials (something we see is precious to Ghouls and difficult to get?) suggests that Cooper probably gave Rodger vials some time in the past. Cooper seemed to genuinely care about Rodger.
The man is the living embodiment of the Terrifying Presence and Gun Fu Perks. :)
At this point I don't think a 'happy ending' is the point of Cooper's quest to find his family. He just needs a resolution, an answer.
If Barb *is* alive, then there is going to be a very interesting reunion. Not necessarily good, indeed almost certainly not good, but unavoidably interesting.
As to their daughter, that could go any way, from glorious, redemptive reunion, to soul-crushing guilt and/or blame ridden tragedy.
I am excited to find out which choices they make.
Daughter is Uhura.
I dont know who, maybe an actor, maybe the writers....
But how wild is it that Someone while Making Fallout is going to think 'ok I gotta NAIL this, bc Oxhorn is gonna break this down and he'll catch my F-up'
yea basically. i think / hope video game adaptations are going to respect lore like this more often. hardcore fans like when it is done well like this, and casual fans will have a good 1:1 understanding of lore that can be transferred to the games once they start playing. just like how the fans of the show picked up and tried the games for the first time. respect to the show creators because they really only got a lil experimental with the brotherhood of steel faction. which is completely fine because each chapter (or region) of the brotherhood of steel are already pretty different from each other.
they did so well dude
Considering some of the actors and other members of the team are clear fans of the series its entirely possible some expected it and probably thought it was an honor for Ox to poke at their work. And the fact this is one a good number of increasingly longer videos about the characters and setting I think they would be proud how invested in the YT Fallout lore master has gotten in the series.
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I like the Ghoul the best, best finally after watching the season, i grown to like Maximus too. And Lucy is cool and her brother. But yeah : )
I, too, liked all the main characters.
Maximus is cool! He is definitely VERY human, but I hope they develop his character and confidence more!
S-tier husband. His wife has no idea what she lost!
Idk why this doesn’t have more likes 👍🫡
I lost it when The Ghoul dropped a handfull of caps for the tomatos
Bethesda and Amazon put Cooper's special stats as 5 for strength, 6 for perception, 7 for endurance, 7 for charisma, 4 for intelligence, 7 for agility and 4 for luck.
How did you deduce that?
@@stvrob6320 there is a news article talking about how Bethesda and Amazon gave these special stats
@stvrob6320 I think that has to do with their stats in fallout shelter which are not super reliable. Technically fallout shelter can't be Canon by its very nature (I could make my own vault 111) and also characters from mainline games have different SPECIALS in fallout shelter than the main series game they are from.
No perks listed or talked about. His Special Stats add up to 40. Fallout 4 starts us off with 28 in our Special Stats.
@@edmartin875 And Cooper's had 200 years of Exp and sidequests in order to abuse the Special Training perks.
He can have more than a base starting character in FO4 lmao
I disagree there was a lesson with not giving her the water. Clean Purified Water is one of the most valuable resources in the wasteland, if someone is giving it to you for free 9/10 there’s an ulterior motive. The lesson is don’t trust people and learn to do what it takes to survive. Plus that water was likely irradiated anyways.
I believe the "mystery" chem the ghoul uses to resist going feral is just RadX or Radaway since it seems to stop the radiation from affecting the brain even though the games never shows ghouls needing to take chems to avoid being feral but the show does seem to be canon and is adding bew lore to the franchise
I love that you discuss Barb's overwhelm over the fact that she knows the world is about to end and that the plan for after is messed up. It's an easily missed bit..
He starts as Roy Rogers and becomes Clint Eastwood. Considering Clint Eastwood played a character that was intended to be a deconstruction of the wild west hero I think the character is intended to let the writers and actor play around with the whole "duality of man" concept. Its why hes super compelling. And the audience can so easily latch on to the little quirks of his performance. We are eager to see those highs and lows and he's allowed to portray and experience them in his depiction without any kind of narrative dissonance.
I do like that hes still wearing his original gold and blue outfit under the leather coat after all these years. Its a very obvious visual storytelling device that mirrors everything about him.
I am here to argue that the ghoul is smarter because he makes specialty ammo, you never see him buy them, but we know from new vegas and 76 that people can make ammo from scratch, and he has armor piercing explosive rounds that he used on the bos knights during the ncr raid
But he also knew where the fatal flaw was in the suit, having worn one himself in battle.
I love the the ghoul and his character arc. What i love even more is he looks to Lucy and his life but essentially created her character because she draws courage, strength and doing the right thing from the pip boy images and of course the experiment she was part of. She has no idea he is the man who inspired the pip boy character. This series is my all time favorite. This contrasts of enternal struggles each character is so well done you learn new things everytime you watch it
Oxhorn you know this show only happend because your fallout game story telling drummed up everyones love of fallout. Thank you this show is really good
Giving him a special rating was a great add in!
Want level is he. What was the cap. In fallout 4 there was none
@@edwardgoodwin9801people in the comments are saying you can see his special stats, but I don’t know about level. Level would be interesting but I think arbitrary for a show. Being alive for 200 years would stack some xp, and his specials aren’t maxed so I don’t think here leveled
He starts with 40 points in his SPECIAL stats. Fallout 4 only lets us have 28 to start with.
I watched the first episode just out of curiosity knowing nothing about the series. I binged the entire thing glued to the set the whole time, what a fantastic surprise of quality.
Some of the Ghoul reminds me of the original Barnabas Collins, from Dark Shadows. Both had abysmal luck before they were turned, both were betrayed by the people they loved, both were locked away for a very long time, both became immoral and willing to do anything to meet their goals, both have a strong disposition towards their families, and both (or at least what we've seen with the Ghoul so far) have a long, painful road to redemption.
Its no surprise that the Ghoul is a big hit. Back in its heyday Dark Shadows was popular enough to get two movies, comics, books, etc.
God this show is just so good
I'm so glad we got an awesome Fallout show. So thankful.
It would have been even better if it had respected the lore of the West Coast.
@Thagomizer what's the lore then 🤡
@@Thagomizerdidn’t ruin it, shady sands was growing so rapidly it engulfed the bone yard making it into one territory, (calling the entirety of it shady sands to reinstate ENTIRE states with such growth) therefore making it the first CAPITAL, meaning that wasn’t the first one, and we are going to see more. However in 2283 a nuclear bomb is dropped by launch codes sent from barb and hank, and more, blowing up central shady sands.
47:41 "at a super duper mart"
*Cue pan to the giant ass RED ROCKET sign*
Also kind of functions as a call-back to the Vault Dweller encountering Dog Meat for the first time.
"How betrayal can shatter a man" goes hard
45:40 “made jerky out of his butt” the cut was actually back strap or cube roll, which is a really cool detail as it’s one of the best cuts of meat (on a cow at least), so not only is he preforming cannibalism, but he’s also leaving the “bad cuts” for Lucy to pick (if she wanted to eat)
The ghoul was my second favorite character in the show. He is a great character in a great show but I'm the type who always tries to like the protagonist. If you look at where my preferences lie in the games, Maximus should be my favorite but no it's Lucy. But this is about the ghoul. Who is an excellent, in depth character. I do love him so damn much. This is one of those shows that your favorite character is so hard to pick. My favorite quote of his is when Lucy mentions "The Golden Rule" and he tells her, " The wasteland has its own golden rule. " You will always get distracted by random bullshit along the way". Slightly misquoted but yeah.
Fantastic perspective on the Ghoul. I explained his behavior to my lady through the lens of how the games work. Lucy being the newbie player who usually makes the good, moral choice, and tries things not knowing you can't always win. Maximus being a second playthrough, when you purposely pick the alternate (usually bad) choice, just to see how rough it gets. The Ghoul is the player with hundreds of hours in the game, who has finished it a bunch of times. Pragmatic. Cold. Just looking to see how fast you can get through this thing, because these NPCs don't matter. Nothing matters. And plainly, being chaotic can be hilarious, especially when you know what to expect. Been there, done that--and he's been around long enough, that's true. He's literally played this game before.
But in terms of the character, I think you nailed it. Never would have considered how crap his luck was, good point, and clearly his charisma is maxed out. The bit with Barb was bugging me, too. She did seem put off by him after a while. That he didn't see it is tragic. Interested in seeing where he goes from here. Thanks for the video!
DogMeat being in the show is absolute gold as i remember him from fallout 4
Take notes! OXHORN is running the class
Cool fact about Cooper as a ghoul still wearing the cowboy shirt. I didn't notice that, so thank you to the eagle eyes who spotted it!
The hat is also the same, just after 200 years of use and a Fallout.
I think I would put The Ghoul's Charisma at 9, and make INT 4. He may have had something in pre-war life where he increased his CHA so it's effectively 10. But Maximus is the 3 INT character. The Ghoul would have to have 4. Between 3-4 INT is when you get the Low INT dialogue or not.
No his int would be 6 average
@@darrenwatkins7356 I will accept 5 at most. The Ghoul is extremely Charismartic, Lucky, and Wise, not Intelligent.
Yep. Ghoul is street smart in all aspects of bounty hunting. He can decuct motives, and analyse behavior.
But in Fallout int really stands for knowledge in science and robotics overall. Wich beyond maybe weapon maintenance for non energy weapons he does not have.
I think the "No dogs in the Vault" pairs well with Roosevelt being Cooper's 'conscious' and 'sounding board' as you put it. If Roosevelt is his conscious, "No dogs in the Vault" essentially translates to "No thoughts in the Vault" which is when he finally realises that VT is up to no good.
As a ghoul, it's only when he is introduced to Dogmeat that he starts to, albeit slowly, regain that part of him. Him healing Dogmeat is the first time we see him act compassionately as The Ghoul, and from there on it seems he starts to internally question the things he does. Dogmeat is that return of his humanity, so to speak.
I'm only 20 minutes in so, sorry if this same conclusion is came to later in the video, I just HAD to get my thoughts down lol.
"There are rumours of Vault Tec conspiring to end the world"
Cooper: I sleep
"No dogs are allowed in the Vaults"
Cooper: REAL SHIT
doggos come first haha
I'm not going anywhere without animal babes
WHO SAYS THERES NO DOGS?!
that scene was so damn good.
Anywhere, anyone, or anything that says no to animals....is evil automatically in my book.
Cooper just made me think more about that idea I've brought up about a CIA or MI6 agent turned ghoul,
still at it 200 years after the big boom, but not a mean poopoo head like Desmond Lockheart from Point Lookout.
More like Daniel Craig as James Bond, with a bit more of a good reason to be mopey than Craig has.
That's a really cool idea.
That's an issue in a relationship, when you just say yes to whatever the person you're dating asks of you.
When he's supposed to be the secondary character but steals the show.
Even my father remembered the actor from the Tarantino movies and admitted he did an outstanding job
Man, Cooper is such an amazing character and I can't wait to see where his story goes in the next season. And I just can't get over Walton's acting in the scene where he learns they are planning on dropping the bombs. The way his face changes, you can see tears starting to form in is eyes. And when he turns to face Hank when he finally get into the room he just looks so devastated.
And I love his dynamic with Lucy, now they are traveling together it will be interesting to see how they continue to influence each other. I'm so glad I watched this show.
I love him so much. He's such a great actor. Especially his works with Tarantino
Dogmeat ≠ Roosevelt, but Dogmeat = Good Boi
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Walton Goggins crushed this role. He was a large part of the show and I loved every second of it
I have a soft spot for Hancock so its no big leap that Coop would be my fav show character. Kinda reminds me of a gen x ghoul. I have a sneaky thought that we're going to find Janey as a perpetual 7 year old and accordingly, a synth. Could Coop kill a synth daughter? In any case, it would be a fantastic way to introduce the Institute to people who have only seen the show and not stepped a virtual step into the world most of us know. Thanks for the new content, Ox! I could watch you all day.
Woah Janey being a synth is a great idea and a smart prediction.
I think that would be such an interesting twist!
I’m guessing Barb’s high status would have granted her and Janey a method of immortality to keep Vault-Tec going.
If Janey and Barb are together, maybe Cooper will have to persuade his daughter out of Vault-Tex’s brainwashing.
@@littlevenom to add an extra thought... Billy the kid is a ghoul child. Maybe we'll get a Janey ghoul. Or both. A ghoul child for Coop, a synth child for Barb. I could see Coop finding his family with a synth Janey and traveling the wastelands for his ghoul child. Finale: finding her. 🤷
@@duzitickle3544 now that I think about it, I haven’t played EVERY Fallout game quite yet, (but working on it!,)
My question is, are hybrids a thing?
Gulpers likely came from people being worked on, so is it possible for a human to also become part ghoul/part human? Or part synth/part human?
I wouldn’t doubt pregnancies above ground are often born stillborn, but what if some survive? Could they have some kind of immunity, or power?
Everyone knows radiation can cause mutations…
@@littlevenom i remember in i think it was a fallout 3 dlc that there was a baby born that was actually born with immunity to stuff like radiation, like an evolution/natural selection thing so id guess that youre right im pretty sure that some of them do survive with immunity
@littlevenom Yes, apparently, the Children of Atom members have an immunity to radiation in some capacity. Also, Kellog had quite a few synth augmentations.
'Now I've waited over 200 years to ask someone, one question. Where's my fucking family...?'
The Ghoul is just.. such a great character.
I just realized “a man and his dog” is a reference to “a boy and his dog” which is the main inspiration for fallout 1
Cooper Howard
Actor,kind,loving,respectful, gunslingers,ghoul,cowboy,know spanish, and is the pip boy
_Demons run when a good man goes to war
Night will fall and drown the sun
When a good man goes to war
Friendship dies and true love lies
Night will fall, and the dark will rise
When a good man goes to war
Demons run, but count the cost
The battle's won, but the child is lost._ ~ *_Doctor Who,_* Series Six, Episode Seven
I think that much pretty sums up the ghoulified Cooper Howard.
The Ghoul character has been my favorite since first episode. The stark contrast between Cooper and the current Ghoul merc/bounty hunter is relatable based upon what he has been through.
I love the fact this show named a kingpin after Actor Sorell Booker, the man who played Boss Hogg in the Dukes of Hazzard tv series; in the many instances I've seen him I knew he was a references to him - dressing alike and has dumb corrupt officers to boot - but the name escape me. Wasn't reminded until yesterday, when my brother sent me a image of the Get Smart complete box set and below it there is the Dukes of Hazzard.
Its been a while since yt recommended your videos man. Its nice to see your video's again
Bringing the dog back I think was the first little hint of him reviving his conscience. He spends a stimpak on the dog, what just about anyone else would consider wasteful.
22:10 I hope in season two we get to see some flashbacks to the battle of Anchorage with 2076 Marines decked out in T-51b power armor.
Walton Goggins, for your Emmy consideration
50:25 the Sole Survivor after seeing his wife being murdered and having to kill his son: 😐
21:50 I just noticed: the cowboy suit has a scorpion embroidered on it. Foreshadowing ho.
The Ghoul is one of the best piece of fiction I have ever had the chance to learn. Right up there with Arthur Morgan
A favorite character of mine. And I like the flash backs to the pre-war days. "Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink". We know he's a learned person, quoting a line from classic poetry. A person who has suffered betrayal at all levels. Vault-tec would have done damage control if they found out he learned their plans, by destroying him in the public eye. Labeling Cooper a communist would have destroyed his image, reputation and his word. No one would want to be associated with him. He's lucky to be playing in kid's birthday parties. Can't wait for season 2. He can learn some more while traveling with Lucy and she can learn off him about survival in the wastes.
He was trying to "teach her" the same way an abusive husband "teaches" his wife when he hits her. The lesson... such as it is... is "I'm the one with the fist, so respect and obey me" It's a sign of how far Howard as changed as a character. It's unimaginable that pre-war coop could actually act this way. Heck, he wasn't even comfortable with playing at exerting that type of authority in a movie. But here, after 200 years of desperation, abuse, and cynicism, he become the very thing he would have other wise opposed and sees no issue with knocking Lucy over just to see how high she'll bounce on impact.
Ok, you managed to make want to watch The Fallout show again. God, I love you, Oxhorn.
After several viewings, I am convinced Coop was a cowboy who joined the Army (out of Patriotism) and became a movie star after his tour of duty. The remarks about "raisimg chickens" seemed a desire to return to a past, simple life.
I wish every literature teacher in the world was more like you 🎥 you give a great analysis and morals every time.
What amazing work with these analysis. It must take just some long to make out one of these videos. Respect!