A Profile of The Ghoul: How Betrayal Can Shatter a Good Man
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- Cooper Howard was a veteran, a patriot, a capitalist, and a loyal husband. The Ghoul is a ruthless, hedonistic bounty hunter, who doesn't value human life. This video explores how one man became the other.
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I'm pretty sure he was only refilling his canteen with irradiated water, and I think he probably had a suspicion that she could handle the surgery bot.
Thanks for making! I loved the detail you mentioned about giving happy thought before killing his ghoul friend. Such a legendary move!
Lore says no one knows who dropped the bombs first! I think you did video on this! But from TV show does that change lore that vault tek did??
Odd question, why don't we only see 1 pool in all of the fallout games?
@johnfodo4129 we still don't know because all she did was suggest dropping the bombs, not saying it did not happen though.
man got 200 years of doing side quest so he can properly solo Vault-tec/Enclave if needed.
He ignored the main quest line until it was required like we all did! 😂😂
@@SerialSpiller Lol naw Coop just didn't have Bethesda hand holding on his quest. It took him 200 years to find out where to go. He's probably hoping to find his wife and kid or, at least, what happened to them.
The most meta comment yet. 👏🏻
@@michaelcluverius1296 he didnt have the pip boy for a map. he had nothing to track quests. understandable delay.
“I don’t want to end up in a cellar under the bootheel of chairman Bud Askin”
This line was gold.
Yeah bud Askins is the opposite of what America is supposed to stand for he's more like the the Communist Soviet Union and China and the fascist Nazi Germany and Italy.
*cut to Vault 33
18:10 I had forgotten about that exchange. Great writing and acting.
"i ain't torturing you sweetheart, I'm using you as bait"-Cooper 🎣
That whole scene goes hard.
"Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time" has to be his best, though.
1 note about the Special stats: He has to have at least a 4 in luck, because he has the Bloody Mess perk enabled. And even though he turned ghoul, he did survive the bombs.
he has had 200 years of XP gain so his special stats are probably extra high if he invested in the intense training perk
Interesting thought, what's luckier? Dying or becoming a ghoul?
He also had the luck of lucy emptying out the super duper mart saving him, and leaving him to loot the rest of the drugs. She has higher luck seeing as how she survived the organ harvesting. And he has lower luck seeing as how the ‘law came in and apprehended him. That being said… led him to maldaver. So kind of hard to determine. Definitely below 5 luck worse than average lol
@@xColton24 Well, if he'd died in the explosion, his daughter would have died with him, and his last thoughts would have been about failing her.
So I'm going to vote ghoul is luckier.
Surviving over 200 years without going feral when you have unfinished business you really want to complete seems super lucky and unlikely, at least as they're setting it up in the show. The other guy survived what, 29 years?
Things like that are why I don't know about his luck.
@@jenniferhansesBeing born in the wasteland would make sense that you'd go feral faster.
Honestly the ghoul was my favourite piece of the show. How a loving husband, father, actor. Could become a hurt and bitter “monster” who would hurt and kill anyone he had to, to stop himself from becoming feral. which is understandable after we see why he still kept fighting to live with as much of his mind as he could to get justice to the evil company that destroyed everything he knew and loved. Just to get rid of war. Something that can never end, because people will always find a reason to kill eachother
I think, that his family were denied the entrance to the vault,so, that's why his wife and daughter not in 31,and that's why he asked Hank about their whereabouts!!
@@DuneRunnerEnterpriseshis whistleblowing likely comes to a head in season two with it getting exposed he listened to her, she gets fired, they divorce, she doesn’t know the date the bombs drop and they lose they’re daughter because of it, or what I think is more likely, to explain why he’s looking for her; she divorced him but STILL had a spot reserved in vault 31 or something, basically abandoning him and their daughter to a fiery grave thinking she’s never have to deal with it and he lived as a ghoul. I think that would be far more interesting, it shows the hubris of a powerful woman, she created this family she’s the glue she can discard it when it’s inconvenient to her and start another more cooperative family it would make her the more realistic and more terrifying feminine villain portrayed in the past decade. An apathetic or doomsday bringing mother instead of patriarchal father? That’s unique that’s interesting, that’s a good take.
I think she’s going to be a main villain of the series.
@@dococ3272I really doubt it, the main villain part that is. But it infuriates me when people forget the small detail that Vault 31 is home to JUNIOR Executives. Barb isn’t a junior executive and couldn’t be in 31. If she was, The Ghoul could’ve forced Lucy to reveal the location to Vault 33, a vault interconnected to two other vaults that housed the frozen junior executives
@@droidmaker7932 oh good point. I still think she’ll be a main villain, considering he’s still looking for her, and doesn’t look like it’s cuz he misses her lol; I also couldn’t fathom a non villainous mother leaving her ex hubby and daughter out to get baked in her plan to wipe out most of humanity…; but you are right she was a senior not junior executive, no way she’s in 31.
@@dococ3272 I didn’t say not a villain, I said not the main villain. Barb’s a villain for sure but not the big bad. In the board meeting, Barb looked up to we, the audience, see a shadowy silhouette seeming to look at Barb when the meeting was not going to plan to whoever was watching them in the shadows. It’s speculated to be a member of the Enclave which shouldn’t be surprising since they and Vault-Tec were responsible for the social and scientific experiments happening across America to unsuspecting vault dwellers.
Walton Goggins is SO. FREAKING. GOOD.
Perfect choice for this Ghoul
Always. He stole the show in Justified and Sons of Anarchy lol
@@MC-zr7hl
Ain't no argument there.
Walton MOGgins
"Do you want another autograph young Henry?"
That line lives rent free in my head
was cooper famous cowboy quote "feo fuerte y formal" was actually symbolizing the three main fallout tv series characters?
feo (ugly) = ghoul
fuerte (strong) = maximus
formal (dignity) = lucy
That's not a bad interpretation. Mind you, I've always felt that the show is like a sci-fi retelling of _The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly._
Lucy = The Good (Blonde)
Maximus = The Ugly (Tuco)
And…
The Ghoul/Cooper Howard = The Bad (Angel Eyes/Setenza)
It fits pretty well, given the context of the film and the motives of the how's three principal characters.
You can also make an argument they all apply to him. Or, well. 2 out of three on that front, at the start of the show.
The tri-force of Fallout! 🤣
A man nicknamed "Cadillac Bob" suggests the brand Cadillac actually exists in the Fallout Universe...
Does that just mean the Cadillac surname is established? It just means a prominent person with the last name Cadillac existed and that Bob has some investment with whatever the Cadillac family established. Maybe they made guns in this universe?
Of course Cadillacs exist. It's all 50s themed. There was never any question.
Maybe he just was from northern Michigan.
The Glock company also exists too cause they made the Plasma Pistols from One
Fallout 1 and 2 show that there are real-world companies that exist after the Divergence existing after it companies like Heckler & Koch, Sig Sauer, and Glock
He's a man (ghoul) on a mission. He lost everything and wants to get it back. He had to become the way he is to survive in the wasteland and accomplish his goal. Hard times make hard men or in this case a ghoul. Walton Goggins is one of my favorite actors and I'm glad he plays this character and does it so well.
Also, I just started playing Fallout 4 a few weeks ago for the first time and the line the Ghoul says about being sidetracked all the time is EXACTLY CORRECT!
He's just a simple man trying to make his way through the wasteland like Boba Fett is a simple man trying to make his way through the galaxy.
One thing I like in this story is the “hardening” of Lucy from her Naivety via the ghoul, and the “softening” of the ghoul from his nihilism via Lucy. I saw this represented via the Ghoul grafting Lucy’s “clean & uncorrupted” finger onto his hand, while Lucy gets a “dirty and corrupted” ghoul finger grafted onto her hand in the organ harvesting facility
A main character looking for his family, a fallout classic. SHAUN!
Father*
I also think The Ghoul didn't kill Titus the first time they met because he was just hunting a bounty and having fun. He kills the brotherhood knights because he now has a lead on his wife and they were in his way.
I think it had more to do with the fact that Maximus caught him at the wrong time; he had just emptied his pistol with the special ammo and had to switch to the rifle with normal bullets to face maximus, which apparently could not penetrate the weak spot in the welding. At the observatory he had the opportunity to load his gun with armor-piercing rounds so he could exploit the flaw.
@@quantum340 The Ghoul did use his pistol near the end of the engagement, but honestly, it seemed more like he was having fun than anything
I think he recognized that the person in that armor was barely an adult and that insight tugged at his conscience juuuuuust enough to stay his lethal hand.
Im with you on this one...hes got high perception and he's used power armor. So he can tell not onky by how clumsy max is but i also think part of it may also have to do with how max addresses him...we saw how the brotherhood vets were. Think about it, he sounds like a rookie cop on his 1st solo case lol...."stand down " lol 10 caps says most other knights would have just shot the ghoul on the spot without a word. Which made the fact he was gonna merk Lucy on the spot not mesh untill i realized oat likely it had a lot to do with being in a vault suit. Having not seen one in so long it prob made him feel some type of way. Later on he has multiple opportunities to merk her but he doesn't cuz hes had time to processe that shiznit.@rookhobbes9055
Didn’t the armor he was wearing have some type of upgrade on it? Max mentions it to Titus on the Vertibird
I think the best parts of the show are the Pre War sections with Cooper Howard(obviously feeling similar to the F4 intro). Cooper listening to Vault Techs plans is the best scene in the show. I think it would be cool to have a Fallout prewar game, movie, or TV show. Also I wonder if Cooper met Nate in the war. It would be cool to see a conversation between the two.
Yeah!!!!
Meeting Nate at the battlefield,when he tells Cooper about his wife and kid!!!
That's would be GREAT!!!!
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises Yeah, I was thinking of awesome moments with them talking about life at home and their families. Just sharing war stories. And if Cooper Howard is still alive at the end of the show, it would be pretty cool to imagine that he would meet Nate in the Commonwealth at some point.
That would presume Nate is the canonical survivor in FO4 - and many argue that he was. However, it is Nora we see on the Steam page. The one thing I hated in FO4 was Nora = lawyer, Nate = soldier narrative. I am female, I served in the Army - in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So that's how I approach Nora, a vet who used her GI BIll to get a degree in law. War never changes.
As a ps: I was a crew chief on Black Hawks (the medevac sort), so perhaps that is how Nora met Nate - as a crew member of a vertibird Nate was extracted by. Isn't head canon an awesome thing? lol
@@csb78nm OK first of all God bless you for your service. Also, yeah, I agree I wish Nora was in the military, but at the same time being a lawyer in the pre-war era for fallout would create some interesting backstories. Were you a decent lawyer(helping people in need) or a corrupt lawyer(being blindly loyal to the corrupt government)? Of course, same with Nate. Was he loyal to the crooked actions of the military?(Being that one power armor soldier in the fallout one intro) or did you act as a rebel(go against the immoral actions of the military. Be the hero of Anchorage). So many things that you can imagine for the sole Survivor. Also, I was talking about a conversation between these two in the prewar era but in the apocalypse, it would also be an interesting conversation.
When the Ghoul comes face to face with Hank you can tell in that moment it was Cooper that asked, where's my fkn family 🙏
He dropped the accent for that one. I think that should have confirmed for everyone that the Ghoul is a sort of persona he has developed to survive.
Elements of the real Cooper come out when he was kind to the one retired NCR ranger's daughter who serving him food. He dropped the accent when he said "thank you darling" to her which shows she reminded him a lot of his daughter. We also saw it when he took dog meat with him. Him mercy killing his friend who was turning feral are all moments of him dropping the persona.
I like how he said "where's my family?", and not just "where's my daughter?". Means he still loves and misses Barb, despite their falling out.
That scene must've been surreal for the both of them. They both saw ghosts of the past. 👻
The ghoul was 100% the best part of the show. I'm hoping for a Kill Bill 2 style surprise in the next series 😂
In this instance, wouldn't that be Kill Bud??
@@manofwarbno bud is a throwaway character. Buds buds are a big misdirect. It’s not vault techs main vault. That’s where his wife is is the big reveal that the enclave and vault tech have been operating since the war collaboratively.
@@DayZeroGaming no, the reveal is that Vault 31 is that "main vault" and that Barb has been a "Bud's bud" all along. Notice the reveal of both Hank and Betty as being other "Bud's buds" both in the past and present.
If the Enclave was going into a vault with the true wire pullers at Vault-tec, why did the President and his coterie hole up at the oil rig?
@@manofwarbBarb was a higher ranking executive, not an assistant. Equal to or higher than Bud. She said she was getting them a spot in the vault for management "overseeing all the other vaults". It is not vault 31.
@@golden_dusk If Barb is equal to or higher than Bud, then why does Betty talk to Hank in Barb's office? Why does Hank call Barb's home? Why don't we meet any other execs besides Bud's buds? Also, if there was a Super-Vault overseeing all vaults, why didn't they intervene before so many of their experiments failed?
Why didn't anyone from this Vault step in to prevent Shaun from being thawed out and taken by the Institute? Why didn't they step in when 81's overseer sabotaged their experiment? Why didn't they rig the games to prevent House from annexing Vault 21? Why didn't they do something to stop the Enclave from slaughtering everyone in Vault 13? Or the Master from kidnapping everyone in Vault 17?
Because this hypothetical super-vault does not exist.
I have never played the game. But what drew me to the show is Cooper Howard. It’s what keeps me interested. His story reverberates through the centuries and has so many implications. It breaks my heart.
Barb didn't just drink Vault-Tec's Kool-Aid, she guzzled it down. Notice when she said, "one of the good vaults," then got questioned by Coop, she diverted the conversation. Then later at the dinner table, she downright got angry and confrontational when Coop questioned her about the rules. I'm guessing that Coop himself confronted his wife about what he heard and that was the cause of the divorce so Barb could distance herself from him.
Maybe it's just me, but at 52:43 it sure looks like he's 'flipping the bird' at the screen and what he used to be.
How about how her face changes from worried crying to immediate relief when she hugs him. Cuz he's believing her for the moment.
I think a good side of Cooper Howard does indeed still exist. This comes out in one key way: Dogs. Pre-War, Cooper hearing that Dogs aren’t allowed in the Vaults are what motivated him to spy on his Wife and eventually learn the truth. When he sees the Dog he just fought off at Filly, he decides to Stimpack it and save its life. He later finds the Current Dogmeat trapped in a Cooler at a Red Rocket. He didn’t have to save the dog these 2 times, but he did, because Dogs clearly remembered me him of a (slightly more) peaceful time, and bring out a long dormant, more altruistic side of him.
Alot of people like dogs more than humans
Yes, he stimpacked that dog... but for what? To track down it's owner for the target that so many were after. At first I thought he was being nice, but now I'm convinced he only revived the dog to track his target.
Cooper being like: No dogs in the Vault?! The heck with this! I'm just going to become a radioactive raisin!
Giving him a special rating was a great add in!
Want level is he. What was the cap. In fallout 4 there was none
Arguably the ghoul did help Lucy. He taught her some of what she needed to know about the waste land. Water bad, beware. People, mostly selfish and or bad, beware. Look out for yourself first. Assume no one cares. Be realistic.
14:11 Coop's wife wasn't thrilled about his idea to move close to Bakersfield cos she knew that Vault 12 wasn't one of the "good ones".
Isn't vault 12 on the east coast of DC in the capital wasteland
@@RocksBlasterNo it’s in Bakersfield, CA. The door was designed not to seal so the residents turned into ghouls and formed the Necropolis
@chriss3208 wait isn't that the vault in fallout 1 in necroplus
@@RocksBlaster Yes it is, I think the one you are thinking of in Fallout 3 is vault 112 the one where you find your dad
@chriss3208 oh damn I got it mixed up lol
The scene where the Ghoul talks to his friend turning feral before he puts him out of his misery is one of the best scenes in the series, it shows the humanity still left in Cooper and how he's losing everyone he's known one person at a time. They obviously go way back... then after the glimpse of humanity... "that ass jerky won't make itself" he returns to his wasteland cynicism. Another friend gone... another brick in the wall.
I like the Ghoul the best, best finally after watching the season, i grown to like Maximus too. And Lucy is cool and her brother. But yeah : )
I, too, liked all the main characters.
The man is the living embodiment of the Terrifying Presence and Gun Fu Perks. :)
i think barb needs to be one of the secondary villains in season 2. Maybe after he got Janey to her safely to go into cryo, she did something even more many years later, that selfishly kept her protected but maybe put the daughter in danger. and when coop finally confronts her, he might not give her the happy memory before killing her like he gave to Roger the ghoul. just showing further that he relates more with the wastelanders than with his old way of thinking. idk exactly, just that one way or another Barb needs to be found and confronted if she is alive
Yeah, let's make it Texan standoff!!
The Ghoul - against his wife!!
When she realises, what he went through....
I honestly felt like Barb didnt really love him and that she married him solely for the fact that he was an actor and what he could do for her.
@@vanessarico369 I think (in a bit of tragic irony) she does love him or did love him...and that's WHY she went so all-in on whatever Vault Tec is doing. She decided years ago "my family is getting in a good vault, no matter what it takes" and it ends up being that decision that tears her family apart.
It would mirror Hank MacLean: doing something really bad with the justification "I'm protecting my family", the family being horrified when they find out.
I felt when I heard her, she did love him. But I hear every red flag of a cheating spouse. Eventually the love is taken away because the new lover draws all her attention away. The lover in this case being Vault-Tec, and for her she is just doing for herself, because she no longer requires his love.
@@vanessarico369 I think she started out loving him but now she's just so done with him. That hug from behind really seemed to annoy her...
Walton Goggins stole the show. The other actors are amazing, but he's absolutely the cornerstone of show. The "load-bearing wall", so to speak. I'm really wanting to see the continuation of his story of what happened in between the bombs dropping and when we first see him dug up. Thank God for Oxhorn!!
Bethesda and Amazon put Cooper's special stats as 5 for strength, 6 for perception, 7 for endurance, 7 for charisma, 4 for intelligence, 7 for agility and 4 for luck.
How did you deduce that?
@@stvrob6320 there is a news article talking about how Bethesda and Amazon gave these special stats
@stvrob6320 I think that has to do with their stats in fallout shelter which are not super reliable. Technically fallout shelter can't be Canon by its very nature (I could make my own vault 111) and also characters from mainline games have different SPECIALS in fallout shelter than the main series game they are from.
If there was a cooper Howard mod for fallout 4 then this his what his likes and dislikes should be he likes it when you heal dogmeat buys dogs intimidation likes it when player uses chems
Likes when player gets into power armor modifies weapons and armor loves it when player persuades for more caps
Dislikes
Hates it when you try resolve a situation peacefully dislikes when the player is too kind hates when you kill non hostile dogs
Comment what else his dislikes and likes should be
So basically a ghoul Cait
Doesnt every companion like it when dogmeat gets healed?
Makes no sense, fo4 already got hancock
Its the same white hat as well just as the ghoul its extremely dirty. You can really spot its the same hat in Filly with the sun on it.
I have a theory about his family and him, I think he took the daughter to his wife who had a vault-tec vault spot for her but not him. Cooper himself proceeded on to Bakersfield and vault 12 as he mentioned Bakersfield in the show. Vault 12 of course was necropolis and turned all its residents into ghouls and this is how Cooper himself became a ghoul, which even more so increased his hate of Vault-Tec.
You think the ghoul didn't give her water because his water was already irradiated, as it doesn't affect him, and he dumped it on the ground for show , knowing Lucy didn't know it was irradiated?
It probably was irradiated. If I recall correctly, at one point he casually fills his canteen with dirty surface water. But not giving her a sip or telling her that it would be dangerous to her seemed more like him just being a nasty piece of work.
Yeah. That was my take. Drinking radiated water has to be her choice in his mind. He's not going to make her.
And if he had just given her his water, she'd have thought he was poisoning her on purpose. And that wouldn't be right in his mind, casually poisoning her.
I dont know who, maybe an actor, maybe the writers....
But how wild is it that Someone while Making Fallout is going to think 'ok I gotta NAIL this, bc Oxhorn is gonna break this down and he'll catch my F-up'
yea basically. i think / hope video game adaptations are going to respect lore like this more often. hardcore fans like when it is done well like this, and casual fans will have a good 1:1 understanding of lore that can be transferred to the games once they start playing. just like how the fans of the show picked up and tried the games for the first time. respect to the show creators because they really only got a lil experimental with the brotherhood of steel faction. which is completely fine because each chapter (or region) of the brotherhood of steel are already pretty different from each other.
they did so well dude
Considering some of the actors and other members of the team are clear fans of the series its entirely possible some expected it and probably thought it was an honor for Ox to poke at their work. And the fact this is one a good number of increasingly longer videos about the characters and setting I think they would be proud how invested in the YT Fallout lore master has gotten in the series.
It’s probably one of the coolest things to see him go from normal to ghoulish . How far do you fall? But he lived a long time and learned a different way when the bombs fell. He is trying to just survive, but he’s doing things not acceptable to others, but it’s just crazy, and loved this character.
The Ghoul was my favorite part of the show. Or should say Cooper Howard over all. I count him as the main story of the show since he's the one that the viewer sees the before/past scenes so you can see how the world changed.
God this show is just so good
I'm so glad we got an awesome Fallout show. So thankful.
It would have been even better if it had respected the lore of the West Coast.
@Thagomizer what's the lore then 🤡
Watching this to calm my nerves lol. Thanks boss
I'm recovering from surgery and I'm also soothing my anxiety. Hope you feel better!
Take notes! OXHORN is running the class
I love the writing for your scripts. So poetic yet it doesn't rhyme. Beautiful.
I am here to argue that the ghoul is smarter because he makes specialty ammo, you never see him buy them, but we know from new vegas and 76 that people can make ammo from scratch, and he has armor piercing explosive rounds that he used on the bos knights during the ncr raid
Never saw Goggins act before, but heard of him. This put him on my radar absolutely, and I LOVE this character. Can't wait to see more of him and I hope the show keeps his momentum and doesn’t sort of... lose the needle in the hay, so to speak with his development.
I think I would put The Ghoul's Charisma at 9, and make INT 4. He may have had something in pre-war life where he increased his CHA so it's effectively 10. But Maximus is the 3 INT character. The Ghoul would have to have 4. Between 3-4 INT is when you get the Low INT dialogue or not.
Bethesda apparently disagrees with those stats:
Strength: 5.
Perception: 6.
Endurance: 7.
Charisma: 7.
Intelligence: 4.
Agility: 7.
Luck: 4.
Wow! Don't come across videos like this often. I saw so many things I didn't the first time I watched the show, loved this dive into his growth!
WHO SAYS THERES NO DOGS?!
that scene was so damn good.
He starts as Roy Rogers and becomes Clint Eastwood. Considering Clint Eastwood played a character that was intended to be a deconstruction of the wild west hero I think the character is intended to let the writers and actor play around with the whole "duality of man" concept. Its why hes super compelling. And the audience can so easily latch on to the little quirks of his performance. We are eager to see those highs and lows and he's allowed to portray and experience them in his depiction without any kind of narrative dissonance.
I do like that hes still wearing his original gold and blue outfit under the leather coat after all these years. Its a very obvious visual storytelling device that mirrors everything about him.
Dude, you’re amazing! I’ve been watching for years. Keep up the good work.
I have a soft spot for Hancock so its no big leap that Coop would be my fav show character. Kinda reminds me of a gen x ghoul. I have a sneaky thought that we're going to find Janey as a perpetual 7 year old and accordingly, a synth. Could Coop kill a synth daughter? In any case, it would be a fantastic way to introduce the Institute to people who have only seen the show and not stepped a virtual step into the world most of us know. Thanks for the new content, Ox! I could watch you all day.
Woah Janey being a synth is a great idea and a smart prediction.
I think that would be such an interesting twist!
I’m guessing Barb’s high status would have granted her and Janey a method of immortality to keep Vault-Tec going.
If Janey and Barb are together, maybe Cooper will have to persuade his daughter out of Vault-Tex’s brainwashing.
@@littlevenom to add an extra thought... Billy the kid is a ghoul child. Maybe we'll get a Janey ghoul. Or both. A ghoul child for Coop, a synth child for Barb. I could see Coop finding his family with a synth Janey and traveling the wastelands for his ghoul child. Finale: finding her. 🤷
@@duzitickle3544 now that I think about it, I haven’t played EVERY Fallout game quite yet, (but working on it!,)
My question is, are hybrids a thing?
Gulpers likely came from people being worked on, so is it possible for a human to also become part ghoul/part human? Or part synth/part human?
I wouldn’t doubt pregnancies above ground are often born stillborn, but what if some survive? Could they have some kind of immunity, or power?
Everyone knows radiation can cause mutations…
@@littlevenom i remember in i think it was a fallout 3 dlc that there was a baby born that was actually born with immunity to stuff like radiation, like an evolution/natural selection thing so id guess that youre right im pretty sure that some of them do survive with immunity
I love all the characters we were introduced to in season. Pretty much perfect casting all the way around. Each character is pretty much how we would play the game in our own way.
Love the new content OX keep it up 🎉🎉
I wish every literature teacher in the world was more like you 🎥 you give a great analysis and morals every time.
On the question, Capitalism vs Communism, we see, what happen to a perverted form of Capitalism is capable, by Vault-Tec policies. Trying to save lives costs money, And no one want to spent much money. They all want to keep it for them self.
And any country, which has Communism, only uses a perverted form of it. Because the powerful leader want to become more and more powerful, while letting his people live in poverty.
So, both things are bad, if they are used wrongly. So the best way to live, is o use both systems at once
I'm still left wondering about empire-building and resource control.
If we had an expample:
Just two liberal democracies on a planet, with basically same policies in place,
both countries are mostly fertile farmland.
Then lets say they had the same religion, not even a different sect (or not have a religion at all) and
you could not tell a citizen of 'Atovia' and 'Batovia' apart, if you put them both in a T-shirt and Jeans.
But two vastly different cultures, heritages and languages.
You got this vast desert between them, that has basically 90 % of the oil in the world,
so do they come to an agreement to split the desert between them,
or would one side try to take it all and then a conflict starts and 'the noble Gulash eating Atovian'
must defend themselves against 'the meanie Pickled Herring eating Batovian'?
Or after just that first, plain peaceful fifty/fifty on-a-map split geologists start saying:
"Oh yeah, they got 60 % of the reserves and we got 40 %."
Or what if the Batovian sea, where all that herring comes from, has that 10 % of oil outside of
the desert under its surface? Are the Atovian's gonna start saying: "That's not fair!"
I think the key take out is authoritarianism, Fall Out features a form of authoritarian capitalism, where citizens have become so inconsequential compared to the corporate profit motive that the key corporations are happy to wipe out most of humanity for profit. Any dissent is branded as unamerican and punished by an extreme cancel culture to which the government is complicit. The Chinese experience is similar, the population is just used as expendable military pawns they are told what to do and think - the communists government treats the peoples best interests the same way vault tec do - completely disposable.
there isn’t a bad version of either, if unregulated, both will turn out to be eventually failing economic systems which is obvious as anarchy is not a stable economic system, all empires end for a reason but as far as we’ve seen for communist nations that have have their own determination of their economy we actually have none as they all incorporate free market capitalism in some way discluding north korea which is a feudal monarchy and un-advanced nations
@@4rs0n1stregulation isn’t enough. Especially if said regulation can be rolled back decades later by lobbyists and Wealthy people. The only way to really protect the workers and their stability is to make that regulation the highest law of the land. Make a workers branch of government, create amendments that protect them. Etc. otherwise Corporations will always come back full circle to put their own self interests over Working Americans.
what the fuck do you mean "ethical capitalism"
They couldn't have picked a better song than Act Naturally for the ending of the vault boy episode. Fits perfectly.
That scene with Roger always makes me tear up man, every part of it just hits. It encompasses the Ghoul's immense tragedy and immense yet hit hidden capacity for humanity in one scene.
Thanks for your videos bro
I disagree there was a lesson with not giving her the water. Clean Purified Water is one of the most valuable resources in the wasteland, if someone is giving it to you for free 9/10 there’s an ulterior motive. The lesson is don’t trust people and learn to do what it takes to survive. Plus that water was likely irradiated anyways.
This is so rad!
Nice.
Well done breakdown of Cooper.
I'm glad he's still getting work. I always liked him from 'The Shield'
Walton Goggins, for your Emmy consideration
although a 1 in luck is understandable he has to have some luck for getting all those feral cure drugs especially from Lucy, idk I might be wrong. Also this is a fantastic video and thank you for making it😁!
Just watched this gem. Man so GOOD
47:39
It’s a Red Rocket station, not a super duper mart
The ghoul was my second favorite character in the show. He is a great character in a great show but I'm the type who always tries to like the protagonist. If you look at where my preferences lie in the games, Maximus should be my favorite but no it's Lucy. But this is about the ghoul. Who is an excellent, in depth character. I do love him so damn much. This is one of those shows that your favorite character is so hard to pick. My favorite quote of his is when Lucy mentions "The Golden Rule" and he tells her, " The wasteland has its own golden rule. " You will always get distracted by random bullshit along the way". Slightly misquoted but yeah.
Dogmeat ≠ Roosevelt, but Dogmeat = Good Boi
It's probably worth noting Bethesda released the SPECIAL stats for the three main characters.
To whit:
Strength: 5
Perception: 6
Endurance: 7
Charisma: 7
Intelligence: 4
Agility: 7
Luck: 4
I think it may be time for my 4th watch-through of this 😅
Cooper just made me think more about that idea I've brought up about a CIA or MI6 agent turned ghoul,
still at it 200 years after the big boom, but not a mean poopoo head like Desmond Lockheart from Point Lookout.
More like Daniel Craig as James Bond, with a bit more of a good reason to be mopey than Craig has.
I'm going to call it in advance. His wife survived through cryostasis in a vault. Their daughter is now a feral ghoul.
Ghoul's wife will have her in some sort of suspension or containment center. I imagine she'll 'reunite him with his daughter' in a season end cliffhanger. Where she is all 'raaaawr'
I expect she is searching for a cure to ghoulism itself... Or if they go super vault-tec dark... Utilizing her for an experiment...
If I end up right, fucking hire me.
I think that they are going to have to give us some backstory on both of them before the marriage. I'm wondering if, in her mind, he is her husband or yet another business acquisition
Man, Cooper is such an amazing character and I can't wait to see where his story goes in the next season. And I just can't get over Walton's acting in the scene where he learns they are planning on dropping the bombs. The way his face changes, you can see tears starting to form in is eyes. And when he turns to face Hank when he finally get into the room he just looks so devastated.
And I love his dynamic with Lucy, now they are traveling together it will be interesting to see how they continue to influence each other. I'm so glad I watched this show.
I loved the subtle part where Coop finds out they will not be letting dogs in the vault. You can see the first creepers of sus coming into his expression. If Vault Tec are dog haters.... maybe they Are the Devil? Nice shout out to DogMeat too. To see the ghoul treat (Future Dogmeat, I call her Paige as in 404 Paige Not Found!) the new dog horribly (tho not as horribly as THADEUS YOU MoFo!!!!!l) is devastating, after watching how loving he is with his dog before the war.😢
This is class
_Demons run when a good man goes to war
Night will fall and drown the sun
When a good man goes to war
Friendship dies and true love lies
Night will fall, and the dark will rise
When a good man goes to war
Demons run, but count the cost
The battle's won, but the child is lost._ ~ *_Doctor Who,_* Series Six, Episode Seven
I think that much pretty sums up the ghoulified Cooper Howard.
I could’ve sworn they did the special stats for all of the characters on fallout shelter
I think you should’ve mentioned the scene where he watches the movie he was filming 200 years later and sees him killing the criminal saying that he was ugly and didn’t have dignity
Bro had 200 years side questing and after instaling DLC, the Main Quest shows up 🗿
I think in a weird way he’ll find his family, but not in the traditional way. Hope you lost and sad in the end but he’ll find a new family.
Take care of as a family man cowboy
With a big iron on his hip
Goggins did so well
You know , hearing about Anchorage and playing F3's dlc recently got me thinking; why didn't they talk about the T-51s? There's a tent full of them and are the only power armor in the dlc. What's the timeline for the development and use of the power armor variants? I know the X01s came post war, but what about the T-60s? There's nothing that says any other variant but the 51s were winterized.
Sorrell booker is a nice nod to sorrell brooks the actor who played boss hog in the dukes of hazzard.
I don't think his strength is 3, in fallout universe there are weapon requirements, and pistol he uses is even stronger than Desert Eagle, and yes he does get tossed around a lot. I'd give it a 4 on STR. -as it is the str requirement for the strongest pistol in the game to aim at accuracy.
edit: non-Bethesda Fallout, ghouls can have over 10 stats, (for ex 13 intelligence and special perks as "tech wizard").. and base stats are different than average human (5-5-5-5-5-5-5)
I know this is unrelated but oxhorn could you do a video about the actual name for Novac . I know it's name comes from the no vacancy sign but what is the proper name ?
Oxhorn please play more cyberpunk i love the way you tell storys but we need an in depth playthrough like you do with fallout 🙏🙏
I love the fact this show named a kingpin after Actor Sorell Booker, the man who played Boss Hogg in the Dukes of Hazzard tv series; in the many instances I've seen him I knew he was a references to him - dressing alike and has dumb corrupt officers to boot - but the name escape me. Wasn't reminded until yesterday, when my brother sent me a image of the Get Smart complete box set and below it there is the Dukes of Hazzard.
I'm curious in season 2, since he said he has family somewhere.
It's either his feral daughter or cooper's wife locked up
Very charismatic ghoul.
Sadly, I can understand. We all conform to something, but Sadly sometimes it doesn't work.
A favorite character of mine. And I like the flash backs to the pre-war days. "Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink". We know he's a learned person, quoting a line from classic poetry. A person who has suffered betrayal at all levels. Vault-tec would have done damage control if they found out he learned their plans, by destroying him in the public eye. Labeling Cooper a communist would have destroyed his image, reputation and his word. No one would want to be associated with him. He's lucky to be playing in kid's birthday parties. Can't wait for season 2. He can learn some more while traveling with Lucy and she can learn off him about survival in the wastes.
Am I the only one that’s assuming the drug is rad. Away, since you find it on ghouls in game. Maybe as fan we are over analyzing the drug.
Definitely Rad Away combined with the Jet device 🫁
In the tv show it seems to be implied that ghouls are created by being injected by some sort of serum that they need to keep taking to not go feral, you assume its the radiation because thats what it is in the game.
True, but that was just Maximus' observation of Thaddeus not dying from a mortal wound. For all we know Thaddeus got a dose of FEV from the Snake Oil salesman and is on his way to become a Super Mutant.
Hancok from Fallout 4 became a Ghoul for drinking some strange liquid ( said by himself )
Bonus caps for anyone who know what else Bakersfield is known for in the Fallout Universe. I wonder if Cooper went to Bakersfield after all?
Yeah I snorted when he said that. "Good luck with that buddy. Say hi to Set."
I can’t wait for the goul and bud to meet
Finally the character dissertation I've been waiting for. Cooper and the ghoul were weally the bread and butter of the show. I'm excited for this video
Brilliant and insightful, Oxhorn. Thank you.
Good Catch with the shirt I didn’t even notice that!
Plot twist, vault tec is a Chinese owned company
Hua? No Wei! I'd trust them blindly like I trust my modem...
Do you plan on covering vault 63 from fallout 76?
After 200 yrs he'd be like maxed out lol Also is it the hand cannon that has explossive rlunds or the lever action?
It was great to Erik Estrada in this show. Glad older actors are given roles.