Me too...but I do find the " Chocolate Bar" double Cyclops intrusive. The single Cyclops on the Samurai range looks a lot better and doesn't intrude on the design by dominating the dial.
Still don’t like it lol, with that being said, I didnt go the light it up and scrape it off way. Dome crystal swap eased my eyes, just keep the crystal till my eyes require the service from the cyclop candy bar.
My SRPE05 has a Japanese movement, says it on the dial and caseback. Accuracy is +2sec on the wrist and comes back to 0 overnight in position. Bought it cheap at Macy's on cyber Monday. The green rubber strap is amazingly comfortable you don't know its there. One heck of an everyday wearer!
It’s because it’s sold in the USA as per law . On my SRP773 bought in USA , the dial indicates MOVT JAPAN and on the case back MOVEMENT JAPAN . The Canadian version doesn’t have that on dial and I am uncertain what it states on the case back.
I just picked up my green king turtle, and I love it! I have a lot of blues, blacks, grays, this is my first green! I wanted the new Omega Sea Master in green, this one took its spot! Not getting rid of this Seiko, wearing it everyday! Great review. Appreciate it brother, Matt😃👍👍
I’m fine with the hardlex and aluminum bezel, it’s not as if I’m actually diving with this. The ceramic bezel doesn’t really add anything but make the watch shinier. I did go for the king over the regular turtle just because they were the same price. But now I’m kind of regretting it as I really hate the textured dial.
Couldn’t agree more about the crystal and bezel insert. Can’t understand what the fetish is with ceramic and sapphire is. It can’t be that great if every Chinese garbage watch company uses them.
To the people who say they don't like a magnifiers on a watch ( i was one of rhem), wait until you get older and your eyesight is not so great, that's when you appreciate them!!
These can be had for 30% off retail or more now. Sometimes it pays to wait a little bit. I have the King turtle blue wave edition and the King Samurai white dial. Both great watches.
Great review of an amazing watch! I just received the exact watch today! This is my first Seiko Automatic and my first Turtle. I think the waffle/grenade dial design and green colour combination is stunning! I love the candybar cyclops, it adds an upscale look to the watch. Although I purchased an international model SRPE05K1 that does not say Made in Japan on the dial, my watch has Arabic/English Day Date wheel! I think that adds a little extra uniqueness to my watch. Plus I paid an insane deal for it brand new. I also bought an Army/Olive/White Nato strap and a Strapcode Super J Louis Jubilee bracelet, can't wait for them to come in! It will give my watch a variety of wear options to dress it up or have cool summer look to it! Cheers on your channel.
thank you for your kind words! I think this watch is a very good choice as a first Seiko Automatic. In fact, It was also my first Seiko Diver! Indeed, the international version doesn’t say „made in japan“ on the dial but that’s why you can find some very good deals online.I heard that the quality control issues are worse on the K-models, so give your watch a proper look 👀. If you get your straps make sure to snap some cool pics of it and feel free to tag me on Instagram, so I can check them out :)
@@quality_times You're welcome my friend! I literally watched every video on TH-cam about the New King Turtle watches etc! I needed to know and see how the watched looked/specs/on wrist/different straps/issues. Your video review is superbly done! I can understand other peoples issues with the watch, not liking the cyclops, same 4R36 movement. I chose the King Turtle for the new Green Waffle colourway and because of the upgrades of Ceramic Bezel and Sapphire Crystal. Although the regular Turtles are super nice too, I couldn't justify spending money on a Hardlex Crystal. This is also my first real Diver watch and it's a Seiko too King Turtle lol! I took a close look at my watch dial and everything, chapter ring, bezel markings all line up perfectly! Rotation of the bezel is tight and feels good. I feel pretty lucky for that. For sure I can take some pics when my straps come in, the watch is begging for strap/wardrobe options! :D I wanted the JDM version but didn't want to pay the premium for that model, it's like $600+ US when you find one for sale. I'm super happy/impressed with this watch, the quality you get for value is insane. I find the Waffle dial design is what makes the watch for me, over the other options. The Blue Save The Oceans dial is pretty awesome too. I have too many Black Colour dial watches, but it is another great King Turtle too. Keep up the great work and cheers!
Thank you for the review. I finally ordered mine now after watching this video of yours! I was "circling" around this watch for some time. Actually, I was in the Seiko Boutique last week in my Hometown to check out some GS-Models and surprisingly was quite underwhelmed by them (great quality...but it did not "click"...if you know what I mean). Because I "saved" a couple of thousand bucks on the GS...I felt free to order the King Turtle now! ;-)
awesome! I am glad, that I could help you out! I never handled a GS, but I heard similar stories to yours quite often. Sometimes a watch looks better in a catalogue than in real :)
Believe me, I had a hard time deciding which colorway to pick! I was thinking about the black one as well, but I already had so many black watches in my collection. Which Save the ocean variant do you own?
Seiko I have to say is my favorite brand right now. Although with all the flaws they may or may not have... like you say they have personality and feel great to wear. I am wearing the Dark manta Turtle 460$ for it with what I saved off the msrp bought a premium aftermarket jubilee bracelet. My watch is running about +2 a day... whether on or in my display case. I know these can vary but if get one like this one running at COSC make 500$ well worth what you pay. More importantly the feeling you get when enjoy what's on your wrist is immeasurable.
Enjoyed your review. I got mine in August and was on honeymoon stage for about a month. 1 negative is power reserve. After 2 days of laying idle it's dead. Invest in a watch wonder but do love it. Love Prospex do much I bought another the newly released Shogun SBG191. Much longer power reserve.
I feel like 400 euros would have been the correct price. Mind you these Microbrands with similar or better specs are made in China and not at all in-house. For the history and brand recognition it is justifiable that Seiko charges more for roughly the same specs. A 6r movement would be perfect. 6r for 500 euros makes sense....the 4r is more than adequate though.
got the green one. was pleasantly surprised with how well its keeping time so i got the black one too. very comfortable watch at a very reasonable price.
@@williamstalvey6920 i really like black. but since the green was the first one readily available and i liked it, i got it. months later, i saw the black one, i picked it up too. maybe get what you really want first. then think about the other color later.
@@quality_times noted, the fact one is Blue and has the Manta Rays on the dial and a unique strap, and the other is that nice green with the “grenade” dial and different (but also unique) strap makes me ok to have both. I don’t have a large wrist and these turtles sit perfectly on mine…..the lume is solid and they’re super comfortable.
@@quality_times I have the one called SRPF77 which I think is called Prospex Save the Oceans…..the other one is called Prospex King Turtle in Green so I haven’t tried the one you mentioned. I think it’s very similar to the SRPF77 but the one you mentioned has the crown at 3 o’clock and the two models I have the crown is at the 4 o’clock spot. All of these are very nice and seem of high quality at reasonable prices.
hi, I got this strap on Aliexpress for around 10€. They come in different colors and sizes. There is a Link in the video description, if you want to pick one up :)
I don’t like how the crystal dropped below the bezel abruptly, it feels like the bezel and the crystal were simply put together without thoughts of design finesse. I swapped out the crystal despite its already sapphire, and I hate the candy bar anyways.
I don't think Seiko is better than Hamilton/Mido/Tissot/etc. Interesting to see if this move upmarket will work for them. People may want to pretend that "in-house" adds value, but I really don't think it does in the case of Seiko.
Its about whether the watch speaks to you. Hamilton/tissot maybe better specs on paper but those I have owned gathers dust while seikos get much more wrist time even over likes of my rlx,Tudors. Breitling, etc.. Seikos are iconic designs, very few tissots/Hamilton have any collectibility which is why you don't see many videos of them and are highly discounted on grey markets due to lack of interest.
WE BROKE GODS LAW. 2000 YEARS AGO, GOD PROVIDED A SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WHO SUFFERED AND TOOK OUR PUNISHMENT ON THE CROSS. THE BIBLE SAYS IF WE DECLARE WITH OUT MOUTH JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEART GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD YOU SHALL BE SAVED. Romans 10-9. GOD WILL FORGIVE YOUR SINS AND GRANT YOU EVERLASTING LIFE ALL BECAUSE OF WHAT JESUS DID ON THE CROSS
1) Is it 2033 already? Gosh! Where did the years go? 2) You know you’re commenting on a watch review, right? Pretty sure no one on Golgotha was straining their necks to see their wrists and check the time ;-)
If they made these watches without that horrific Cyclops magnifier they would sell a hell of a lot more it makes the watch look ugly and has put me right off buying one😬
Why? Not picking a TH-cam comment fight-I’d genuinely like to know what informed your opinion. I’m still learning about nuances when it comes to watches ;-)
Most Seikos, minus the TUNA models, are garbage. Why do people allow Seiko to get away with misaligned bezels, inaccurate movements, poor crown stems, horrible bracelets, horrible clasps?
most Seiko models nowadays have some sort of QC Issues. Thats a fact. But despite that, I think that most newer releases look terrific - that's why some people (myself included) don't mind these issues that much.
For folks who don't like magnifiers, I like them because, at my age, I need them. And most likely you will, as well, someday.
I'm 68 need them !
Best comment ever. 🥰🥰🥰
I’m 12 and I prefer the magnifier !!!!!
Me too...but I do find the " Chocolate Bar" double Cyclops intrusive. The single Cyclops on the Samurai range looks a lot better and doesn't intrude on the design by dominating the dial.
Still don’t like it lol, with that being said, I didnt go the light it up and scrape it off way. Dome crystal swap eased my eyes, just keep the crystal till my eyes require the service from the cyclop candy bar.
My SRPE05 has a Japanese movement, says it on the dial and caseback. Accuracy is +2sec on the wrist and comes back to 0 overnight in position. Bought it cheap at Macy's on cyber Monday. The green rubber strap is amazingly comfortable you don't know its there. One heck of an everyday wearer!
Lucky, my Macy barely has any Seiko in stock. Just unknown Seikos and Seiko 5 in their booth
I ordered mine online.
It’s because it’s sold in the USA as per law . On my SRP773 bought in USA , the dial indicates MOVT JAPAN and on the case back MOVEMENT JAPAN . The Canadian version doesn’t have that on dial and I am uncertain what it states on the case back.
All Seikos are a in house Japanese movement. With the King turtle is a 4R36.
I just picked up my green king turtle, and I love it! I have a lot of blues, blacks, grays, this is my first green! I wanted the new Omega Sea Master in green, this one took its spot! Not getting rid of this Seiko, wearing it everyday! Great review. Appreciate it brother, Matt😃👍👍
appreciate the kind words, my friend! Enjoy your watch and wear it in good health :)
Do you still wear your green turtle or did you pick up something else?
Just wanted to let you know, I have this watch. I got the crown laser engraved with a big S. I love it!!
awesome man! do you have a pic to share? maybe on IG?
@@quality_times instagram.com/p/CMLLc_0FYoZ/
I now own one - and love it.
it’s a stunning watch!
I’m fine with the hardlex and aluminum bezel, it’s not as if I’m actually diving with this. The ceramic bezel doesn’t really add anything but make the watch shinier.
I did go for the king over the regular turtle just because they were the same price. But now I’m kind of regretting it as I really hate the textured dial.
Couldn’t agree more about the crystal and bezel insert. Can’t understand what the fetish is with ceramic and sapphire is. It can’t be that great if every Chinese garbage watch company uses them.
I just recently picked up the SRPE39J and this watch and especially the Manta Ray dial are amazing 🤩
yeah, Seiko knows how to make awesome dials. :)
To the people who say they don't like a magnifiers on a watch ( i was one of rhem), wait until you get older and your eyesight is not so great, that's when you appreciate them!!
These can be had for 30% off retail or more now. Sometimes it pays to wait a little bit. I have the King turtle blue wave edition and the King Samurai white dial. Both great watches.
@70DMac get the sumo hulk as well best watch collections
Great review of an amazing watch! I just received the exact watch today! This is my first Seiko Automatic and my first Turtle. I think the waffle/grenade dial design and green colour combination is stunning!
I love the candybar cyclops, it adds an upscale look to the watch. Although I purchased an international model SRPE05K1 that does not say Made in Japan on the dial, my watch has Arabic/English Day Date wheel! I think that adds a little extra uniqueness to my watch. Plus I paid an insane deal for it brand new.
I also bought an Army/Olive/White Nato strap and a Strapcode Super J Louis Jubilee bracelet, can't wait for them to come in! It will give my watch a variety of wear options to dress it up or have cool summer look to it! Cheers on your channel.
thank you for your kind words!
I think this watch is a very good choice as a first Seiko Automatic. In fact, It was also my first Seiko Diver!
Indeed, the international version doesn’t say „made in japan“ on the dial but that’s why you can find some very good deals online.I heard that the quality control issues are worse on the K-models, so give your watch a proper look 👀.
If you get your straps make sure to snap some cool pics of it and feel free to tag me on Instagram, so I can check them out :)
@@quality_times You're welcome my friend!
I literally watched every video on TH-cam about the New King Turtle watches etc! I needed to know and see how the watched looked/specs/on wrist/different straps/issues.
Your video review is superbly done! I can understand other peoples issues with the watch, not liking the cyclops, same 4R36 movement.
I chose the King Turtle for the new Green Waffle colourway and because of the upgrades of Ceramic Bezel and Sapphire Crystal. Although the regular Turtles are super nice too, I couldn't justify spending money on a Hardlex Crystal.
This is also my first real Diver watch and it's a Seiko too King Turtle lol! I took a close look at my watch dial and everything, chapter ring, bezel markings all line up perfectly! Rotation of the bezel is tight and feels good.
I feel pretty lucky for that. For sure I can take some pics when my straps come in, the watch is begging for strap/wardrobe options! :D
I wanted the JDM version but didn't want to pay the premium for that model, it's like $600+ US when you find one for sale. I'm super happy/impressed with this watch, the quality you get for value is insane.
I find the Waffle dial design is what makes the watch for me, over the other options. The Blue Save The Oceans dial is pretty awesome too. I have too many Black Colour dial watches, but it is another great King Turtle too.
Keep up the great work and cheers!
Super durable! I wear it everday all day.
Thank you for the review. I finally ordered mine now after watching this video of yours! I was "circling" around this watch for some time. Actually, I was in the Seiko Boutique last week in my Hometown to check out some GS-Models and surprisingly was quite underwhelmed by them (great quality...but it did not "click"...if you know what I mean). Because I "saved" a couple of thousand bucks on the GS...I felt free to order the King Turtle now! ;-)
awesome! I am glad, that I could help you out! I never handled a GS, but I heard similar stories to yours quite often. Sometimes a watch looks better in a catalogue than in real :)
You are one of the very few watch reviewers able to use a vernier properly for accurate measurement
thanks! To me, the accurate measurements are crucial!
Super Video! 👌 Mine arrived yesterday from the US to Germany, very cool piece 😊
awesome! I hope you enjoy it! 👍🏻
The Kings are beautiful, I did have the green but it didn’t grow on me. So I flipped it. I do love my black and Save the ocean.
Believe me, I had a hard time deciding which colorway to pick! I was thinking about the black one as well, but I already had so many black watches in my collection. Which Save the ocean variant do you own?
@@quality_times I have the shark version not the ray:(
Seiko I have to say is my favorite brand right now. Although with all the flaws they may or may not have... like you say they have personality and feel great to wear. I am wearing the Dark manta Turtle 460$ for it with what I saved off the msrp bought a premium aftermarket jubilee bracelet. My watch is running about +2 a day... whether on or in my display case. I know these can vary but if get one like this one running at COSC make 500$ well worth what you pay. More importantly the feeling you get when enjoy what's on your wrist is immeasurable.
If you in between 2 holes, experiment with a few aftermarket buckles to get the perfect fit, some buckles can make the strap tighter or looser.
thanks for the tip! I'll try it out!
Looks so great with the black strap, thanks for the excellent video.
Enjoyed your review. I got mine in August and was on honeymoon stage for about a month. 1 negative is power reserve. After 2 days of laying idle it's dead. Invest in a watch wonder but do love it. Love Prospex do much I bought another the newly released Shogun SBG191. Much longer power reserve.
thank you! yes, I agree, the movement has a power reserve of around 40h, which is average. The new Alpinist line has a 70h power reserve though!
I feel like 400 euros would have been the correct price. Mind you these Microbrands with similar or better specs are made in China and not at all in-house. For the history and brand recognition it is justifiable that Seiko charges more for roughly the same specs. A 6r movement would be perfect. 6r for 500 euros makes sense....the 4r is more than adequate though.
Great video man. I could listen to that bezel ratcheting all day.
thank you! yeah it’s my favourite bezel action out of all my watches 😁
got the green one. was pleasantly surprised with how well its keeping time so i got the black one too. very comfortable watch at a very reasonable price.
Which one do you prefer after wearing both?
Thinking about purchasing the green
@@williamstalvey6920 prefer the black one since it will fit with more events. the green looks purely for casual wear.
@@williamstalvey6920 i really like black. but since the green was the first one readily available and i liked it, i got it. months later, i saw the black one, i picked it up too. maybe get what you really want first. then think about the other color later.
I prefer the original white painted markers on the original turtle. I may swap the bezel tho.
Late to the game with the King Grenade, and absolutely love it
I have this watch along with the SRPF77 I love them both and enjoy them more than even my Rolex Datejust
awesome! I am also thinking about getting the SRPF77 actually, but then I would have two turtles in my collection. Does it not bother you?
@@quality_times noted, the fact one is Blue and has the Manta Rays on the dial and a unique strap, and the other is that nice green with the “grenade” dial and different (but also unique) strap makes me ok to have both. I don’t have a large wrist and these turtles sit perfectly on mine…..the lume is solid and they’re super comfortable.
@@brians7292 I think i’ll definitely grab one as well! But I’m also thinking about getting the Samurai Dark Manta. Did you try that one as well?
@@quality_times I have the one called SRPF77 which I think is called Prospex Save the Oceans…..the other one is called Prospex King Turtle in Green so I haven’t tried the one you mentioned. I think it’s very similar to the SRPF77 but the one you mentioned has the crown at 3 o’clock and the two models I have the crown is at the 4 o’clock spot. All of these are very nice and seem of high quality at reasonable prices.
Some of the dials has Japan movement printed on the dial some of them not.im wondering why.yours doesn’t.
Love ❤️ one ☝️ outstanding bit of kit !
Great Video Michael, I really enjoyed it!
thank you! I am glad to hear that! :)
Polar dial please!!! How about a solar version?!!!
honestly, I think they might release a polar dial one day - they did it with the "King Samurai" and it looks awesome!
Good review, great watch.
What company is the outside edge striped nato band from in the later part of the video, 10:25
please?
hi, I got this strap on Aliexpress for around 10€. They come in different colors and sizes. There is a Link in the video description, if you want to pick one up :)
Yup it wears like a 42 I have the dark manta ray king turtle , it wears the same as my other 42 watches 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for that. Great review :-)
thank you, I appreciate it :)
Great review. What other green rubber band is that. It looks really nice
Great video!
thank you!
Excellent video! Love that Fossil strap.. any advice on where to get it? Thanks
unfortunately, they don't sell it separately - it came on a watch that was gifted to me. I sold the watch, but kept the strap lol
I don’t like how the crystal dropped below the bezel abruptly, it feels like the bezel and the crystal were simply put together without thoughts of design finesse. I swapped out the crystal despite its already sapphire, and I hate the candy bar anyways.
Otherwise good?
Being in-between two holes, is not a bad place to be.
Великолепный дайвер от Сейко! Сам ношу такой дайвер с потрясающим синим циферблатом, на котором нанесены манты (морской дьявол), ограниченная версия.
Can you actually get another watch with ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal and an in-house movement for 500 euros ? which watches are you thinking of?
I agree with you here, the only brand that comes to mind is Orient - but I don't think they offer ceramic bezel inserts..
Please, what watches (both please) are those displayed for luminouse compare (approx. 6:20)?
Those are 2 Models from the Microbrand Zelos. One is the Mako V3 and the other model is the Swordfish.
@@quality_times thanks ;-)
Please repeat where you got your black strap? Would it fit my my 8.5" wrist? Thank you!!!!
Thanks for your review. I like SRPE07 the best from whole King Turtle bunch.
thanks for watching! yea it’s a stunning piece isn’t it?
The last Seiko I bought was the ceramic Samurai. The cost is ludicrous for the movment. I've switched to the usual Chinese suspects...
Hello.what do you think of this watch on are 8 inch wrist? is this watch suitable?
of course! It will wear like a dream!
What is that watch band (the black one)?
Soothing voice. You should read books for Audible.
haha thanks! for a foreigner like me, that is a huge compliment! :)
I don't think Seiko is better than Hamilton/Mido/Tissot/etc. Interesting to see if this move upmarket will work for them. People may want to pretend that "in-house" adds value, but I really don't think it does in the case of Seiko.
Its about whether the watch speaks to you. Hamilton/tissot maybe better specs on paper but those I have owned gathers dust while seikos get much more wrist time even over likes of my rlx,Tudors. Breitling, etc..
Seikos are iconic designs, very few tissots/Hamilton have any collectibility which is why you don't see many videos of them and are highly discounted on grey markets due to lack of interest.
It's the hands that make Seiko so much better
any watch with am pm complication in mechanical?
Is it even possible to find a Seiko diver with a properly aligned bezel?
it seems that its getting harder and harder nowadays...
Nope!
Does patina form on the indices like the older 6309?
I think that the newer Lume-Forumula is much more resilient, so I can't image it will age the same way as a Seiko from the 70's would, tbh.
@@quality_times ok, thanks ref the answer on lume!
Just bought one this evening. On offer at jewellers at £160 off rrp. Bargain. This is my first seiko.
Congrats, Steven!
Because some of us are old, that's why.
Not sure why people make such a fuss over the bezel material and crystal. I think the original Turtle looks fine. And that magnifier? 🤮
Its €610 now
I saw them going on sale way blow that - they’re going for around 500€ nowadays.
@@quality_times not in The Netherlands unfortunately, I will have to look into it a bit further in that case
I am in between 2 holes: that’s what he said (to her)
i just heat/remove the cyclops. Problem solved
Please explain that .
burping a lot after tons of soda LOL
Makes you wrist look scrawny man, sorry.
Cyclops - ahgaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Just horrible. Misaligned distortion thing. Never.
WE BROKE GODS LAW. 2000 YEARS AGO, GOD PROVIDED A SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WHO SUFFERED AND TOOK OUR PUNISHMENT ON THE CROSS. THE BIBLE SAYS IF WE DECLARE WITH OUT MOUTH JESUS IS LORD AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEART GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD YOU SHALL BE SAVED. Romans 10-9. GOD WILL FORGIVE YOUR SINS AND GRANT YOU EVERLASTING LIFE ALL BECAUSE OF WHAT JESUS DID ON THE CROSS
1) Is it 2033 already? Gosh! Where did the years go?
2) You know you’re commenting on a watch review, right? Pretty sure no one on Golgotha was straining their necks to see their wrists and check the time ;-)
If they made these watches without that horrific Cyclops magnifier they would sell a hell of a lot more it makes the watch look ugly and has put me right off buying one😬
I was thinking the same in the beginning, but when I held it in my hands, the Cyclops wasn't THAT horrible as I thought it would be.
No. The Seiko King turtle isn't the best on the market.
The SRPE93K1 is the best on the market.
Why?
Not picking a TH-cam comment fight-I’d genuinely like to know what informed your opinion. I’m still learning about nuances when it comes to watches ;-)
Most Seikos, minus the TUNA models, are garbage. Why do people allow Seiko to get away with misaligned bezels, inaccurate movements, poor crown stems, horrible bracelets, horrible clasps?
most Seiko models nowadays have some sort of QC Issues. Thats a fact. But despite that, I think that most newer releases look terrific - that's why some people (myself included) don't mind these issues that much.
The quality control issues is the best thing about the watch makes it different
@@quality_times shipmate needs to get out of the tunnel vision lol
Ha! Should suit me fine, then. My character flaws are the most interesting things about me ;-)