4 years ago, but what saved me in this video was how to align it before reassembly. I had it all wrong and it was acting strange. Thanks for the video!
yes 4 years ago, but I keep getting comments about my Moen Faucet video, so I am glad its still helping people. Yes I remember putting in the "alignment section" because I thought it might help somebody, because it was confusing.
Excellent video!! Mine turned out to be a bit more difficult. The cartridge would not come out even after using the white plastic tool to break the seal. Then while pulling with my pliers, the metal stem broke off. So then I was in panic mode because the shower was in the "on" position, and I could not turn the mains back on. To overcome that, I screwed a short screw into the center of the cartridge, where I could use a screwdriver to turn on and off the shower faucet temporarily till I figured out what to do. I finally ended up drilling 2 long deck screws into the plastic face of the cartridge in the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions and used my pliers to yank on them repeatedly. After many hard pulls, the cartridge finally came out. Turns out the black rubber gaskets on both sides of the cartridge somehow got caught in the inlet holes of the copper pipe. They tore loose when I pulled out the cartridge, so I had to remove the rubber bits with some needle nose pliers after taking the cartridge out. Just wanted to share my experience, but I appreciate your video!
Thanks for sharing your experience Yankee Hank, sounds like you used your ingenuity and fortitude to "get the job done". You have the same mindset as the cable guy who used to say, "git'er done". I am glad you watched my video, and I am sure your comment will help others as they struggle to change the cartridge.
My rubber pieces were also stuck in this grooves and broke off in there when I pulled it out. I had a hard time getting them out because I had to dig them out with a tiny flathead screwdriver and then grab the pieces with the needle nose pliers. I thought I was going to rip the plumbing out of the wall. When those rubber piece get legs in the grooves it's really really hard to get the cartridge out.
If had the rubber pieces bind up 🆙 n two of mine and break apart. Seems like none of it got stuck inside, but I turned the water on slightly to flush out any pieces that would come out.
Omg! Your video has saved me, after my faucet wouldn't turn off! Also, another video had a tip to heat up the cartridge, with a blow dryer, if it refuses to come out. Next, Moen has a program, where you can go the hardware store and get a new cartridge for free! Thanks so much! 🤗
Good advice about heating up the cartridge ( and pipe ) which will expand the pipe first, and cartridge will slip out easier. I see from your TH-cam channel you give good advice, like turning a pantry into a food storage, and having first aid stuff ready and waiting.
THANK YOU!!! I was at wits end in the final stages of replacing a shower cartridge using trial & error trying to position the center shaft properly so that the water was OFF when the handle was in the OFF position. You pointed out the "Small notch facing up, means on" turned a frustrating puzzle into a piece of cake. Thanks again!
I am glad my video helped you out, I specifically included the section on the notch because I thought it was a key point and may cause confusion if I did not include it.
Thank you so much Paul. If it was not for your video, I would never have attempted this myself. I'm happy to report that I replaced my old cartridge and that the pressure is back to normal. I wish to share my experience with others. I hope this will be helpful. My shower had lacked pressure for a good 10 years. Even more in the hot water position, just like in your video. My Moen posi-temp was installed by a plumber 25 years ago. I I had checked everything else regarding the plumbing and everything was okay. After viewing your video, I knew the problem was with the cartridge. I contacted Moen and they sent me a new cartridge, free of charge. I had many concerns of doing this myself since the installation is 25 years old. Everything must be tight (and it was ultimately). Anyhow, I proceeded and followed your video and the instructions that Moen provided. Moen strongly suggested a flush of the pipes, hot and cold, once the cartridge was removed. I did this and I know it was helpful. Everything went easily except for 2 things This is what I wish to share. 1) It was VERY DIFFICULT to remove the old cartridge. Moen suggested a 1/4 turn clockwise with the plastic tool they provided with the new cartridge, to loosen it and remove it. This did not work easily. I yanked it in both directions for a good 45 minutes before it started to loosen. Many times, I thought of giving up. I was afraid of breaking something since I was using a lot of force. Despite these difficulties, I managed to loosen and remove it. I then performed the flush. I was now ready to install the new cartridge. 2) Installing the new cartridge proved to be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. I put the grease on the new cartridge as indicated. I was able to insert it about 75% of the way with MUCH difficulty. it took close to an hour to make it to 95%. I was pushing on the cartridge, as indicated in the Moen instructions, with my fingers. Many times, I thought of giving up. The cartridge must be fully inserted in order to reinsert the locking pin. After too many attempts with my fingers to go from 95% to 100% insertion, I had an idea. I used my visegrip tool for an extra push on the cartridge. Please be advised that I'm not sure Moen would 'endorse' this approach. One part of the tool was pushing on the top of the cartridge and the other part, on the bottom. This extra force enabled me to insert it completely. I think that maybe I should have greased the inside of the pipe. Maybe it would have been more easy. I completed the work. Everything works just fine now. Thanks for reading.
This was so corny I couldn’t stop watching 😂 This is also the best video I’ve found to replace that valve! My shower has been a trial for the past couple of days, but after watching your video I see where I went wrong and know what to correct. Thank you so much!
Yes, sometimes corny videos keep them coming back for more. I strive for short, detailed and humorous videos. Like throwing out the instructions, then needing them later.
Thanks for your video. It allowed me to fix a metal shower handle that came off. The handle adapter screw somehow was behind the handle adapter inside the metal handle. I unscrewed the outer metal handle screw with a very small straight head screwdriver. That allowed me to remove the black handle adapter that was inside the metal handle. I could hear a loose part when I shook the metal handle. That loose part was the handle adapter screw (1:16 of this video). I was then able to attach the handle adapter with the handle adapter screw back to the stem assembly and reattach the metal handle onto the handle adapter with the handle adapter screw. Without your video, I wouldn't have figured it out myself. Thanks again!
Thanks! This step by step video was so helpful. We had water that wouldn’t stop! We had to turn the water off... you don’t realize how much you need water until you turn it off! This took me way longer than 6:10 seconds getting the original cartridge out and putting the pin back in were the hardest parts. I’m thankful for people like you who think to upload these type of DIY videos!
Hey I know it's been 2 years but I turn the bath on today and when I try to turn it off the water wouldn't shut off. And there's a little leak coming from the Handel. Is this how yours started? And doing the steps in this video fix it?
I had a girlfriend back in 2011 she couldn't figure out what was wrong with her car. I told her it's the lose nut behind the wheel she didn't get it. I usually choke a rag in the drain. He made it clear I knew he was referring to the doctor game. Good video u remind me of my 7th grade lab teacher
We just fixed our shower easily because of your video! Thank you!! Unfortunately, we had to buy new parts (rather than get for free) because we bought the house with the moen parts already installed, but we saved the plumber fee! Thank you very much!
Very good video! Thanks! I was able to pull this repair off with your advice and instructions. I would add that if you’re a novice do it yourself plumber like me...invest in a cartridge puller if you have hard water! And if the pipe on your water mixer is a bit built up with hard water deposits...hit it with limescale removal product and soak for a bit and even use petroleum jelly to reinstall the cartridge because it’s a tight fit in the pipe my cartridge only came with one lubricant packet and it just wasn’t enough...but it worked perfectly fine after following the instructions on this video! Thanks much! Have a good day! I will have a good day now that I have hot water in my shower again! lol
Thanks for the advice about the puller, and how to beat the hard water deposits that some may have. Glad you did a good job, and that my video helped a bit.
I had a plumber do this in the faucet in one of my bathrooms and he charged me $600! Had to do a second bathroom and watched this vid, went and bought the tool (ACE hardware for $12) and the new cartridge and did the job in about an hour. With the tool it's quite easy.
Thanks a million, Paul C! Based on your step-by-step instructions, even I was able to change this cartridge and stop my slow-leaking shower faucet. And here's a consumer hint -- if you contact Moen first - they will send out a replacement cartridge free as they have a limited lifetime warranty on their parts!
Thats great Jane, that you were able to use the instructions to do your own fix. Your right about the free cartridge if you contact Moen, not sure if you saw this but I did include this in my video too! starting at timestamp 2:33 th-cam.com/video/BXWsiKP88gc/w-d-xo.html
Glad I read your comment. I was going to go buy the cartridge first then view the rest of the video! I will update what Moen tells me when I call them on Monday 9/20.
I have a situation where I can't get the retainer collier clip in between the wall and collar. The new cartridge is in really tight. What does the collier clip hold?
Sir, With your leadership I done completed my walk-in shower and I love my Moen brand again saying you pay for Moen once and love it pass your needs, I'm 70 so someone else will have it some day and bet they also love it. Sir my work is better than many pros but I do work harder and slower but I have enough to add a really nice upgrade vanity and of course the matching Moen faucet and did a great job of installing it myself but only for moving out my iron tub and the vanity I had help carry it into location. Sir I thank you for the great teaching and I only had to do it once and done
Hi, Paul C (my dad's name was Paul C ____, and he was handy like you, too). ❤ 1. I didn't know Moen would ship a free replacement cartridge. Great info. 2. I bought the cartridge repair kit, and was looking for a video on how to do it, when I came across your replacement tutorial. I'm tempted to go for the freebie! Free is good! 3. Loved the freeze frame shots with labels in your video.. Exceptionally helpful.👍🏆
I am glad my instructions helped you fix your appliance, and save you some money. Yes I try keep my instructions simple and efficient, like you said, "Str8 to the point".
Yes sometimes wives can be demanding, in that case I was glad my video got you off the couch and under the sink, maybe your wife will now give you a nice treat.
Fantastic video, I was laughing the entire time, but when you had to get the instructions from the trash, I had to pause the video to enjoy my laughter. Great video 🥰
Thank you for you nice detailed comment, that it made you laugh, and you pointed out a specific joke that was extra funny to you, that you had to stop the video. That just made my day.
great to hear that you loved my video, and that you solved a 6 year issue. Yes sometimes we just live with the issue a long time when all along it was just a little fix. I have "been there done that"
I've replaced about 20 of these in my lifetime, yet the with the one I tried to swap out yesterday, I can not for some reason get that clip to slide back in. I have never had that problem. There just is not any space for the clip to slide around the cartridge. It is making a 30 minute job into an all day project!
yes I like to do things myself too, I like to learn on TH-cam then try it in real life usually it works, sometimes not, once I ruined a stop watch trying to fix it.
Good video! Does the Keystop play a role in the water pressue!?! Ours is not pushing water with enough pressure ,specially when I have to move it to the MIDDLE to avoid getting burned! What is the remdey?
Excellent video. Unfortunately, the hex screw for the handle would not budge. I ended up stripping the screw. Not sure if the guy who installed it overtighten or not. Even before I started, one of the corners was already circular. Sigh.
six years ago and I enjoyed the humor you had, and the free info ,cause I called moen and got one free!,,thanks!! {$50.bucks now{{ now I wait for the 10 day mail wait time'...
Yes sometimes videos that are 6 years or older can still help people, but maybe 20 years from now we will have "AI" showers that will just spray water from the wall. LOL Right even my humor can be timeless, maybe like a Seinfeld episode.
Your explanation was so simple and clear, but my cartridge is still stuck in place. It's moving 45° but that's all the movement I'm getting. The seal is still not broken.
Sometimes it takes alot of "elbow grease" to break that seal, also Home Depot sells something called a "puller" device that might help. Also if you want to get wet turn the water on and it neutralizes the pressure - but that would be the messy way! LOL
Paul C thank you so much for your reply. You are right I had to get my brother to rip that thing out. It came out in pieces but the job was done. Thanks again.
thank you so much about the small notch facing UP info...MOEN video mess me up.. MOEN female rep doesn't understand the issue therefore...sending out another cartridge :) Your video have such good info.
No problem, I had fun making the video, and I am glad it has helped people out over the years. Approaching 1 million views, if I had a nickle for every view! LOL
I've replaced several moen cartridges and those problem but now I have a new problem hardly any cold water comes out all of a sudden, I replaced the cartridge again and the problem continues I don't what the problem is and I don't want to replace the valve, too much work involved if I do that.
It looks so easy and maybe it is so easy but I have spent all day and unable to do it. In summary. I removed cartridge and replaced with after market denco which failed. Replaced with 1200 meon which looks same as existing one but shower is leaking more. Is this one different than 1200 ?
I just replaced a moen/ danco tub and bath trim from lows, and the problem I have is that the handle is still loose after I installed it, what did I do wrong?
We have the same valve and it seems to allow water that gets splashed on it to Ieak into the wall...I think it's getting past that stop tube.... is there supposed to be a gasket or something to prevent that?
In my video I turned the water off at the beginning, its better safe than get a shower if something goes wrong. You can try it without the water turned off, then report back your findings.
yea, yea Dad jokes can be funny sometimes - I know the wives like them! LOL But yes when push comes to shove there is some good information, and I am glad you found it helpful.
LOL....Just for those who don't know the term "fly by the seat of your pants" here is the definition: "fly by the seat of your pants : to do something difficult without the necessary skill or experience: I had no idea how to do it - I was just flying by the seat of my pants."
Wow you have an eagle eye to see a North Stars shirt from the reflection in a shower handle! LOL But your right, I grew up in Minnesota, St. Paul area in the 70's and 80's yes good memories, Goldsworthy, Jude Drouin, Gump Worsley with no mask! Big Battles between Blackhawks and Blues.....
I grew up in Montreal Paul, but always loved the Stars. Had the sweater. Glen Sharpley owns a sports store up here in the great white north nearby. BTW, you also helped me replace my shower cartridge today, so thanks!
Great video! It helped a lot. I had troubles pushing the new cylinder in all the way. I had to wiggle it with the plastic tool to get it in the last 1/8th inch. Also be careful not to drop the pin inside the wall.
5:02 when i put the stop tube it, it keeps going in. it looks like yours doesn't go any further in when you wiggle it. so now my key stop and adjustable temp stop limit isn't fitting flush so everything wiggles and feels loose
I am getting low water temp from shower, so I will put new 1222B. To measure the temp of water coming in, do you know how can measure without the 1222B. What is the name of the plumbing assembly that the 1222b goes into, so I can ask home depot also
At 4:42 ... Correct me if I'm wrong, but, with the notch in the up position you can put the handle back on so that it is in the ON position too - so set screw is at 12 o'clock and is easier to reach for re-assembly (instead of the OFF position at 6 o'clock which would be more difficult to reach). It's not that you removed the original cartridge "... that way."
Correct, I had small notch facing "up" which mean it was in "on" position, so when I put the handle back on in the "on" position it was alot easier to screw it back on. Notice 5:36.
Would somebody please tell me which direction to turn the hex wrench?! I know left to loose doesn't always work, and since whoever put mine together obviously used a torque wrench, I've managed to strip mine trying to get the thing out. I don't know if I'm tightening it or loosening it.
My handle adaptor is stuck...do you have a tip to remove the handle adaptor? I took out the screw and tried to pull on it with pliers and it will not budge?
Hi, I replaced the cartridge.,I get hot and warm water. I do not get just cold water. I have tried another cartridge with the same problem. Do you know how to fix this issue? Thanks
I don't think you can increase the temp with installing the cartridge, you can increase the temp by turning up your hot water heater though. But there is a temp limit stop, but that only stops the water from getting too hot.
what if the handle doesn't come off after the set screw is out? Just ran into that issue, haven't had it before... just pull harder or what do you recommend
I would say pull harder, because if its like mine the only thing holding it together is the screws, might be some "hard water" or "rust" making it stick.
I am not sure what you mean, but if you provider a picture maybe others can figure it out. Or its been 6 months since your comment, so you probably figured it out.
So, after replacing the crappy acrylic knob (chunks were coming off of it), the water mixture has never been right again (no more cold=R, hot=L). Now it's scalding and freezing at various positions on either side. I didn't touch the cartridge, just replaced the handle. ??? I am guessing that the cartridge went bad, but wonder if it isn't a notch issue. What do you think? How can I fix it or get it to reset to normal water temp configuration? (heck, I don't even know what terms to Google!) Thank you for your help!!
I dont know what to think of the unique problem your having, you might want to experiment with the notch, but that dont explain the "scalding/freezing" at various positions on either side. Maybe the cartridge.
@@paulc1562 Right!?! That was my guess, too. But I just replaced the cartridge (water quit altogether), but still have the issue. Top, dead center= water off. To the right is varying degrees of hot. To the left is varying degrees of lukewarm to cool. ??? I can't even visualize how this would happen. 🤔
Good observation, but they both are 1222B, but after being in there for 18 years, looks like they made some changes to the cartridge, just like Honda's make changes to their car from 2000 to 2018.
Ours is horribly stuck. We bought the puller tool and even that hasn't worked. I busted out a climbing harness and rope to try to get some more force on it to no avail. 😭😭😭we really stink and need a shower
Thank you for the nice comment, somebody commented in my Garbage Disposal video that I sounded and had a demeanor like Bob Ross, the artist at PBS in the 1980's. LOL
4 years ago, but what saved me in this video was how to align it before reassembly. I had it all wrong and it was acting strange. Thanks for the video!
yes 4 years ago, but I keep getting comments about my Moen Faucet video, so I am glad its still helping people. Yes I remember putting in the "alignment section" because I thought it might help somebody, because it was confusing.
Great video, I too just email Moen and they sent me a 1220b cartridge for free. No question asked. I have this faucet for 8 yrs. Thanks again.
I think mine broke after 18 years, so I got my moneys worth.
Thank you man, I was struggling to figure this out after my landlord kept delaying coming by to fix this. You're a lifesaver!
Great to hear!
Excellent video!! Mine turned out to be a bit more difficult. The cartridge would not come out even after using the white plastic tool to break the seal. Then while pulling with my pliers, the metal stem broke off. So then I was in panic mode because the shower was in the "on" position, and I could not turn the mains back on. To overcome that, I screwed a short screw into the center of the cartridge, where I could use a screwdriver to turn on and off the shower faucet temporarily till I figured out what to do. I finally ended up drilling 2 long deck screws into the plastic face of the cartridge in the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions and used my pliers to yank on them repeatedly. After many hard pulls, the cartridge finally came out. Turns out the black rubber gaskets on both sides of the cartridge somehow got caught in the inlet holes of the copper pipe. They tore loose when I pulled out the cartridge, so I had to remove the rubber bits with some needle nose pliers after taking the cartridge out. Just wanted to share my experience, but I appreciate your video!
Thanks for sharing your experience Yankee Hank, sounds like you used your ingenuity and fortitude to "get the job done". You have the same mindset as the cable guy who used to say, "git'er done". I am glad you watched my video, and I am sure your comment will help others as they struggle to change the cartridge.
My rubber pieces were also stuck in this grooves and broke off in there when I pulled it out. I had a hard time getting them out because I had to dig them out with a tiny flathead screwdriver and then grab the pieces with the needle nose pliers. I thought I was going to rip the plumbing out of the wall. When those rubber piece get legs in the grooves it's really really hard to get the cartridge out.
If had the rubber pieces bind up 🆙 n two of mine and break apart. Seems like none of it got stuck inside, but I turned the water on slightly to flush out any pieces that would come out.
Exact same experience. Unfortunately, I'm repairing mine again for the second time after a yr.
It can be very hard to remove when this happens. Moen makes a puller that helps but still tough
Omg! Your video has saved me, after my faucet wouldn't turn off! Also, another video had a tip to heat up the cartridge, with a blow dryer, if it refuses to come out. Next, Moen has a program, where you can go the hardware store and get a new cartridge for free! Thanks so much! 🤗
Good advice about heating up the cartridge ( and pipe ) which will expand the pipe first, and cartridge will slip out easier. I see from your TH-cam channel you give good advice, like turning a pantry into a food storage, and having first aid stuff ready and waiting.
@@paulc1562 Yes! Lol! Thanks!
THANK YOU!!! I was at wits end in the final stages of replacing a shower cartridge using trial & error trying to position the center shaft properly so that the water was OFF when the handle was in the OFF position. You pointed out the "Small notch facing up, means on" turned a frustrating puzzle into a piece of cake. Thanks again!
I am glad my video helped you out, I specifically included the section on the notch because I thought it was a key point and may cause confusion if I did not include it.
Same for me! My handle was upside down until I rewatched your video! Thank you so much!!
Thank you. Ended up removing the plate to get to retainer clip. Also bought danco puller from home depot to remove. Took 30 mins total. Thank you!
30 minutes is good time to fix the issues you were having. Correct sometimes a puller is necessary.
Thank you so much Paul. If it was not for your video, I would never have attempted this myself. I'm happy to report that I replaced my old cartridge and that the pressure is back to normal.
I wish to share my experience with others. I hope this will be helpful.
My shower had lacked pressure for a good 10 years. Even more in the hot water position, just like in your video. My Moen posi-temp was installed by a plumber 25 years ago. I I had checked everything else regarding the plumbing and everything was okay. After viewing your video, I knew the problem was with the cartridge. I contacted Moen and they sent me a new cartridge, free of charge.
I had many concerns of doing this myself since the installation is 25 years old. Everything must be tight (and it was ultimately). Anyhow, I proceeded and followed your video and the instructions that Moen provided. Moen strongly suggested a flush of the pipes, hot and cold, once the cartridge was removed. I did this and I know it was helpful.
Everything went easily except for 2 things This is what I wish to share.
1) It was VERY DIFFICULT to remove the old cartridge. Moen suggested a 1/4 turn clockwise with the plastic tool they provided with the new cartridge, to loosen it and remove it. This did not work easily. I yanked it in both directions for a good 45 minutes before it started to loosen. Many times, I thought of giving up. I was afraid of breaking something since I was using a lot of force. Despite these difficulties, I managed to loosen and remove it. I then performed the flush. I was now ready to install the new cartridge.
2) Installing the new cartridge proved to be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. I put the grease on the new cartridge as indicated. I was able to insert it about 75% of the way with MUCH difficulty. it took close to an hour to make it to 95%. I was pushing on the cartridge, as indicated in the Moen instructions, with my fingers. Many times, I thought of giving up. The cartridge must be fully inserted in order to reinsert the locking pin. After too many attempts with my fingers to go from 95% to 100% insertion, I had an idea. I used my visegrip tool for an extra push on the cartridge. Please be advised that I'm not sure Moen would 'endorse' this approach. One part of the tool was pushing on the top of the cartridge and the other part, on the bottom. This extra force enabled me to insert it completely. I think that maybe I should have greased the inside of the pipe. Maybe it would have been more easy.
I completed the work. Everything works just fine now. Thanks for reading.
Glad you did it yourself, you probably saved a bunch of money than have a plumber do it. I am glad you shared your experience. I hear you!!
This was so corny I couldn’t stop watching 😂 This is also the best video I’ve found to replace that valve! My shower has been a trial for the past couple of days, but after watching your video I see where I went wrong and know what to correct. Thank you so much!
Yes, sometimes corny videos keep them coming back for more. I strive for short, detailed and humorous videos. Like throwing out the instructions, then needing them later.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for your video. It allowed me to fix a metal shower handle that came off. The handle adapter screw somehow was behind the handle adapter inside the metal handle. I unscrewed the outer metal handle screw with a very small straight head screwdriver. That allowed me to remove the black handle adapter that was inside the metal handle. I could hear a loose part when I shook the metal handle. That loose part was the handle adapter screw (1:16 of this video). I was then able to attach the handle adapter with the handle adapter screw back to the stem assembly and reattach the metal handle onto the handle adapter with the handle adapter screw. Without your video, I wouldn't have figured it out myself. Thanks again!
I was glad my video was able to help you figure it out.
I just wanted to say: thank you! Your video was incredibly helpful. I appreciate your willingness to share. You saved my Sunday
Thanks for the feeback on the video, it make me feel good to know it helps some people.
Thanks! This step by step video was so helpful. We had water that wouldn’t stop! We had to turn the water off... you don’t realize how much you need water until you turn it off! This took me way longer than 6:10 seconds getting the original cartridge out and putting the pin back in were the hardest parts. I’m thankful for people like you who think to upload these type of DIY videos!
I am glad my video was able to help you do a great DIY job.
Hey I know it's been 2 years but I turn the bath on today and when I try to turn it off the water wouldn't shut off. And there's a little leak coming from the Handel. Is this how yours started? And doing the steps in this video fix it?
I had a girlfriend back in 2011 she couldn't figure out what was wrong with her car. I told her it's the lose nut behind the wheel she didn't get it.
I usually choke a rag in the drain. He made it clear I knew he was referring to the doctor game. Good video u remind me of my 7th grade lab teacher
LOL, yes good joke about loose nut behind the wheel. I am glad I brought back memories of your 7th grade lab teacher....The good ole days.
Thanks for posting this you did a great job and made it so easy for this 67 year old woman. Now to jump in and get clean.
Wow 67 years old and still fixing your own stuff. You go girl!!! yea, yea
We just fixed our shower easily because of your video! Thank you!! Unfortunately, we had to buy new parts (rather than get for free) because we bought the house with the moen parts already installed, but we saved the plumber fee! Thank you very much!
Thanks for the feedback, and the plumbers fee can be the scary part!!!!
Very good video! Thanks! I was able to pull this repair off with your advice and instructions. I would add that if you’re a novice do it yourself plumber like me...invest in a cartridge puller if you have hard water! And if the pipe on your water mixer is a bit built up with hard water deposits...hit it with limescale removal product and soak for a bit and even use petroleum jelly to reinstall the cartridge because it’s a tight fit in the pipe my cartridge only came with one lubricant packet and it just wasn’t enough...but it worked perfectly fine after following the instructions on this video! Thanks much! Have a good day! I will have a good day now that I have hot water in my shower again! lol
Thanks for the advice about the puller, and how to beat the hard water deposits that some may have. Glad you did a good job, and that my video helped a bit.
Could not have done it without your help! Thanks Paul! You saved me a plumber call out and labor costs!
I had a plumber do this in the faucet in one of my bathrooms and he charged me $600!
Had to do a second bathroom and watched this vid, went and bought the tool (ACE hardware for $12) and the new cartridge and did the job in about an hour. With the tool it's quite easy.
$600!!! Wow I should add a "donate button" LOL. Glad you saved the money on your 2nd job.
@@paulc1562 that's what plumbers be charagin' these days in the Seattle area!
Thanks a million, Paul C! Based on your step-by-step instructions, even I was able to change this cartridge and stop my slow-leaking shower faucet. And here's a consumer hint -- if you contact Moen first - they will send out a replacement cartridge free as they have a limited lifetime warranty on their parts!
Thats great Jane, that you were able to use the instructions to do your own fix. Your right about the free cartridge if you contact Moen, not sure if you saw this but I did include this in my video too! starting at timestamp 2:33
th-cam.com/video/BXWsiKP88gc/w-d-xo.html
Glad I read your comment. I was going to go buy the cartridge first then view the rest of the video!
I will update what Moen tells me when I call them on Monday 9/20.
I have a situation where I can't get the retainer collier clip in between the wall and collar. The new cartridge is in really tight. What does the collier clip hold?
Better way is just go to home Depot they give free replacement.
Sometimes they don't even want u to provide the old one.
Paul C. - very informative and all get out funny! Thank you for the inside scoop on Moen.
No problem, thanks for the comment that my video was informative, coming from you it means alot to me.
This is a BEST video about the subject. The video quality is great and your presentation is absolutely awesome and entertaining. Great job 👏 👏👏
Wow the best, I should pin this comment it makes me very proud and humble at the same time. Thanks for good feedback, I will continue to do my best.
Thanks for the teaching, Sir
This is all the answers and I'll be done soon with my new walk-in shower.
Great job,
Thanks
I am glad the video helped with your new walk-in shower, those are the best kind of showers. Just walk-in, shower, towel off, and walk-out.
Sir, With your leadership I done completed my walk-in shower and I love my Moen brand again saying you pay for Moen once and love it pass your needs, I'm 70 so someone else will have it some day and bet they also love it.
Sir my work is better than many pros but I do work harder and slower but I have enough to add a really nice upgrade vanity and of course the matching Moen faucet and did a great job of installing it myself but only for moving out my iron tub and the vanity I had help carry it into location.
Sir I thank you for the great teaching and I only had to do it once and done
Thank you soo much !I needed to put this thing together and couldn't find a good video. Thanks!!
I try to keep my videos short and to the point, and I like to add humor to keep peoples interest. Thanks for the comment.
Hi, Paul C (my dad's name was Paul C ____, and he was handy like you, too). ❤
1. I didn't know Moen would ship a free replacement cartridge. Great info.
2. I bought the cartridge repair kit, and was looking for a video on how to do it, when I came across your replacement tutorial. I'm tempted to go for the freebie! Free is good!
3. Loved the freeze frame shots with labels in your video.. Exceptionally helpful.👍🏆
Yes we love our dear ole Dads, they were handy. Thanks for the feedback on video its nice to know what people like.
Str8 to the point. Fixed mind using your instructions. Thank you! You saved me a lot of money.
I am glad my instructions helped you fix your appliance, and save you some money. Yes I try keep my instructions simple and efficient, like you said, "Str8 to the point".
You saved my life! My wife was going to kill me if I didn’t get this fixed this weekend, Great video!
Yes sometimes wives can be demanding, in that case I was glad my video got you off the couch and under the sink, maybe your wife will now give you a nice treat.
Awesome tut, best on YT & it fixed my problem of water turning on in both directions...
Wow best on TH-cam!!! glad it fixed the issues you were having.
Thank you. Your video showed me what others didn’t on loosing the cartridge.
What did my video show that was different? That I took a pliers and turned it back and forth, thus loosening and breaking the seal?
@@paulc1562 Yes. Not that other videos were bad. Yours just gave me an easier feeling of ok I'm gonna bust these pipes doing this. :)
Fantastic video, I was laughing the entire time, but when you had to get the instructions from the trash, I had to pause the video to enjoy my laughter. Great video 🥰
Thank you for you nice detailed comment, that it made you laugh, and you pointed out a specific joke that was extra funny to you, that you had to stop the video. That just made my day.
You sir are not only knowledgeable but highly entertaining!. Thank you
Thanks for the nice compliment, I will take note of that and try to make all my videos with knowledge plus entertainment, to keep the people coming.
Love this! Thanks for helping me solve a 6 yr issue.
great to hear that you loved my video, and that you solved a 6 year issue. Yes sometimes we just live with the issue a long time when all along it was just a little fix. I have "been there done that"
I love this its like david lynch telling me out to fix my water pressure
LOL, thats funny, I had to laugh, glad you liked it
Thanks.. it was really very useful.. my husband did it while looking your instructions on TH-cam 👍
Wow thats great to hear, when my "likes" go up by one, "another angle gets their wings"
from the movie "Its a Wonderful Life"....LOL
Excellent. The problem shown is exactly my problem. Have to order the cartridge.
Yes, and if you call Moen they will send you a free cartridge too.
I've replaced about 20 of these in my lifetime, yet the with the one I tried to swap out yesterday, I can not for some reason get that clip to slide back in. I have never had that problem. There just is not any space for the clip to slide around the cartridge. It is making a 30 minute job into an all day project!
Very well illustrated. You are the only person I have seen cover the hole in the shower. ( and I have seen a few videos) Good information.👍🧰
Yes, you never know if an important screw will go down the drain, always take precautions.
This Video was extremely helpful for me changing mine out, Thank you!
I try to make videos, that will be humorous but more important helping people, "git'er done"
Thank you very much I like to do things myself I don't want to have to call a plumber I just like to learn to thank you😊
yes I like to do things myself too, I like to learn on TH-cam then try it in real life usually it works, sometimes not, once I ruined a stop watch trying to fix it.
Great, vid, exactly what I was looking for (a description of each part!)
Glad to hear you found what you are looking for, that is a description of each part.
Wow ur video gives me confidence to fix mind. Thank! 👏🏼
yes that is all some people need is a little confidence, why pay $100 when you can do it yourself, and get a little satisfaction and a little pride.
You're the man. This is the best video I've found on this topic!
Thanks it was great that the video helped you 'git er done'
Good video! Does the Keystop play a role in the water pressue!?! Ours is not pushing water with enough pressure ,specially when I have to move it to the MIDDLE to avoid getting burned! What is the remdey?
Excellent video.
Unfortunately, the hex screw for the handle would not budge.
I ended up stripping the screw.
Not sure if the guy who installed it overtighten or not.
Even before I started, one of the corners was already circular.
Sigh.
Yes we all have a horror story of some kind of stripped screw caused problems for us.
six years ago and I enjoyed the humor you had, and the free info ,cause I called moen and got one free!,,thanks!! {$50.bucks now{{ now I wait for the 10 day mail wait time'...
Yes sometimes videos that are 6 years or older can still help people, but maybe 20 years from now we will have "AI" showers that will just spray water from the wall. LOL Right even my humor can be timeless, maybe like a Seinfeld episode.
What happens when u put the screw that holds it all together but when you tighten it the whole assembly turns with it?
Your explanation was so simple and clear, but my cartridge is still stuck in place. It's moving 45° but that's all the movement I'm getting. The seal is still not broken.
Sometimes it takes alot of "elbow grease" to break that seal, also Home Depot sells something called a "puller" device that might help. Also if you want to get wet turn the water on and it neutralizes the pressure - but that would be the messy way! LOL
Paul C thank you so much for your reply. You are right I had to get my brother to rip that thing out. It came out in pieces but the job was done. Thanks again.
Great instruction coupled with some humor. Love it!
Thanks for the nice complement about instructions and humor, it makes person feels good that somebody likes the content of the video.
Great video. Very well filmed up close.
Thank you for compliment, of my filming technique of use of the zoom in shot.
thank you so much about the small notch facing UP info...MOEN video mess me up.. MOEN female rep doesn't understand the issue therefore...sending out another cartridge :) Your video have such good info.
Yes I knew that "small notch" advice may help some people so I included it. One good thing about MOEN they will send you a free cartridge.
Good video and love the humor with great explanation.
Thanks for the feedback, its nice to hear that people are understanding the video, and also getting a laugh or two.
Love the approach, humour and great guidance!
Thanks for your encouragement, I will try to use humor and instruction in my coming videos too
Great Video! You explained it slowly, clearly and didn't rush through it! Like the jokes as well! Thank you!
Yes I try to add jokes to keep interest of the viewer, plus it keeps my interest in making the video. Thanks for the compliments.
Well presented and I love the humour too. Good job my man!👍
Thanks for you nice comment, my goal is to try to be informative, but with a little humor peppered in.
You just might be the only person in the world who was able to remove the cartridge without having to use the puller tool.
Plus it was in there for 18 years!! Even thought I did not have a $20 puller tool, I did use $20 worth of "elbow grease". LOL
Super helpful! Love this. Thanks Paul!
No problem, I had fun making the video, and I am glad it has helped people out over the years. Approaching 1 million views, if I had a nickle for every view! LOL
Just replaced my cartridge! Thank you sir!
I am glad you got the job done, that is whats most important!
I've replaced several moen cartridges and those problem but now I have a new problem hardly any cold water comes out all of a sudden, I replaced the cartridge again and the problem continues I don't what the problem is and I don't want to replace the valve, too much work involved if I do that.
It looks so easy and maybe it is so easy but I have spent all day and unable to do it.
In summary. I removed cartridge and replaced with after market denco which failed.
Replaced with 1200 meon which looks same as existing one but shower is leaking more.
Is this one different than 1200 ?
Did you check if the water had the same level of wetness as it did before?
Oh that is funny, yes it took the same number of towel swipes to dry me off after a shower.
I just replaced a moen/ danco tub and bath trim from lows, and the problem I have is that the handle is still loose after I installed it, what did I do wrong?
Because I am not on site, I am not sure what you did wrong, maybe you bought a generic cartridge and it was not a perfect fit.
@@paulc1562 thx
I hope you had some whipped cream to go with your humble pie, great tutorial, thanks!! 😊
LOL, yea I like whipped cream on my humble pie, because I eat it often. Ha, ha
We have the same valve and it seems to allow water that gets splashed on it to Ieak into the wall...I think it's getting past that stop tube.... is there supposed to be a gasket or something to prevent that?
I am not sure of that, maybe other users can answer that question.
Do you have to have the water turned off to get the handle adapter and the key stop off
In my video I turned the water off at the beginning, its better safe than get a shower if something goes wrong. You can try it without the water turned off, then report back your findings.
Dad jokes and some clear, useful advice. What more could you ask for?
yea, yea Dad jokes can be funny sometimes - I know the wives like them! LOL But yes when push comes to shove there is some good information, and I am glad you found it helpful.
Thanks for the laugh during my frustrating project!
I am glad you got a laugh while doing your project.
i have the same problem but will this solve my hot water issue not alot of hot water comes out ? thanks
Most likely, but not everybody will have the same problem as I did. It wont hurt to try because if you call MOEN they will give you a free cartridge.
2:56 I'm no plumber, but I don't need these things (instructions). I fly by the seat of my pants baby!
LOL....Just for those who don't know the term "fly by the seat of your pants" here is the definition: "fly by the seat of your pants : to do something difficult without the necessary skill or experience: I had no idea how to do it - I was just flying by the seat of my pants."
great sense of humor; and perfect detailed explanation. thanks
Thanks for saying that the humor and detailed information helped you.
Love the retro North Stars t-shirt...Maniago, Bobby Smith, Danny Grant....memories...
Wow you have an eagle eye to see a North Stars shirt from the reflection in a shower handle! LOL But your right, I grew up in Minnesota, St. Paul area in the 70's and 80's yes good memories, Goldsworthy, Jude Drouin, Gump Worsley with no mask! Big Battles between Blackhawks and Blues.....
I grew up in Montreal Paul, but always loved the Stars. Had the sweater. Glen Sharpley owns a sports store up here in the great white north nearby. BTW, you also helped me replace my shower cartridge today, so thanks!
Great video! It helped a lot. I had troubles pushing the new cylinder in all the way. I had to wiggle it with the plastic tool to get it in the last 1/8th inch. Also be careful not to drop the pin inside the wall.
Glad it helped! Yes you had to be careful, it would have been terrible to get all that done, then to drop the pin inside the wall - good call.
I dropped the pin inside the wall
5:02 when i put the stop tube it, it keeps going in. it looks like yours doesn't go any further in when you wiggle it. so now my key stop and adjustable temp stop limit isn't fitting flush so everything wiggles and feels loose
That is an interesting problem you have, if you have solved it please give your comments, so others can learn from you advice.
@@paulc1562 ultimately bought a new kit
I am getting low water temp from shower, so I will put new 1222B. To measure the temp of water coming in, do you know how can measure without the 1222B. What is the name of the plumbing assembly that the 1222b goes into, so I can ask home depot also
I have a single handle shower, but I'm unsure if it's a Moen or not. Is the 1222B a universal cartridge?
Thanks for the video. Saved me quite of bit of $$$$. I repaired my faucet in about 20 minutes.
Thanks for the feedback, the name of the game of TH-cam videos is to instruct and to save the cash. Glad to hear of your success!
This video is the BEST!!! Very well done. Love it. Very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for your positive reply, that gives me confidence to make more good videos.
This video was great informative and hilarious as well😂
Yes I find to have good info with a little humor keeps people from falling asleep.
At 4:42 ... Correct me if I'm wrong, but, with the notch in the up position you can put the handle back on so that it is in the ON position too - so set screw is at 12 o'clock and is easier to reach for re-assembly (instead of the OFF position at 6 o'clock which would be more difficult to reach). It's not that you removed the original cartridge "... that way."
Correct, I had small notch facing "up" which mean it was in "on" position, so when I put the handle back on in the "on" position it was alot easier to screw it back on. Notice 5:36.
Oh .... !! ... I see what you mean now .... thanks for the info !
Would somebody please tell me which direction to turn the hex wrench?! I know left to loose doesn't always work, and since whoever put mine together obviously used a torque wrench, I've managed to strip mine trying to get the thing out. I don't know if I'm tightening it or loosening it.
usually "lefty loose" has worked all these years for me, and "righty tighty", I am not sure what else to say. Good luck.
My handle adaptor is stuck...do you have a tip to remove the handle adaptor? I took out the screw and tried to pull on it with pliers and it will not budge?
Hi, I replaced the cartridge.,I get hot and warm water. I do not get just cold water. I have tried another cartridge with the same problem. Do you know how to fix this issue? Thanks
sorry i meant what size isthe philips screw driver size that you use to remove the screw in the adapter, thanks!
Further inside , is that where you can increase hot water temp to shower? If so then by turning which side which way?
I don't think you can increase the temp with installing the cartridge, you can increase the temp by turning up your hot water heater though. But there is a temp limit stop, but that only stops the water from getting too hot.
Awesome video! Amusing and thorough.
Thank you for noticing both the "amusement" and the "content", its nice to have both.
Buddy, I LOVE your explanation: " I FLY BY THE SEAT OF MY PANTS!'
an' 'at's duh way to do it, bro' !!!
I am not sure were I got that phrase, "Fly by the seat of my pants" but it means to make things up on the fly. "Git er done" "Git er done"
what if the handle doesn't come off after the set screw is out? Just ran into that issue, haven't had it before... just pull harder or what do you recommend
I would say pull harder, because if its like mine the only thing holding it together is the screws, might be some "hard water" or "rust" making it stick.
Just installed the new 1222b But I have no pressure on cold water & when I put it in off position it leaks
That is interesting, maybe other users can help you out. I am not sure of the answer.
What if the clip is further back and cover or blocked by the plate?
I am not sure what you mean, but if you provider a picture maybe others can figure it out. Or its been 6 months since your comment, so you probably figured it out.
Great instructional video, funny too! Thank you!
Yes I try to make good instruction videos with a little humor to keep the viewers interest.
Thank you for this awesome and extremely informative content very grateful!
I am thankful for that comment, it encourages me to make good videos which help people with content, and also make them laugh.
very well explanation, and good work
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. Humor + information = fun video
anyone have an idea why my shower handle only turns 90 degrees when its suppost to turn just like in the video 180 degrees ?
What happens if you replace the cartridge and you are still not getting pressure on the hot side??
I would disassemble it, and try again, and try troubleshooting as to why.
@@paulc1562 ok. Thank you.
So, after replacing the crappy acrylic knob (chunks were coming off of it), the water mixture has never been right again (no more cold=R, hot=L). Now it's scalding and freezing at various positions on either side. I didn't touch the cartridge, just replaced the handle. ???
I am guessing that the cartridge went bad, but wonder if it isn't a notch issue. What do you think? How can I fix it or get it to reset to normal water temp configuration? (heck, I don't even know what terms to Google!)
Thank you for your help!!
I dont know what to think of the unique problem your having, you might want to experiment with the notch, but that dont explain the "scalding/freezing" at various positions on either side. Maybe the cartridge.
@@paulc1562 Right!?! That was my guess, too. But I just replaced the cartridge (water quit altogether), but still have the issue.
Top, dead center= water off. To the right is varying degrees of hot. To the left is varying degrees of lukewarm to cool. ??? I can't even visualize how this would happen. 🤔
You pulled the cartridge out and I see two 0 rings front and back; but when it goes back in, there is but just one 0 ring in the front??
Good observation, but they both are 1222B, but after being in there for 18 years, looks like they made some changes to the cartridge, just like Honda's make changes to their car from 2000 to 2018.
I replace it and still have a very slow leak. And suggestions?
I am not sure what is causing your slow leak, maybe not a proper fit.
Great Video. I am having a helluva time getting the Handle adapter off. Most like due to a build of scale/water hardness. Any suggestions??
All I can say is a little more direct "elbow grease", or some kind of other tool, hopefully some other users can help.
What happens if you don’t have a key stop after removing the handle adapter...Or am I just not seeing it
Checkout my video at 1:37 and I have an image which indicates the key stop and the stop tube.
Ours is horribly stuck. We bought the puller tool and even that hasn't worked. I busted out a climbing harness and rope to try to get some more force on it to no avail. 😭😭😭we really stink and need a shower
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Thanks for this video!! Just saved me some big $$ by watching this!!
Yes I saved money too, first on a plumber and Moen gives away a free cartridge if you call their 1-800 number.
love your demeanor while speaking thanks and comedy
Thank you for the nice comment, somebody commented in my Garbage Disposal video that I sounded and had a demeanor like Bob Ross, the artist at PBS in the 1980's. LOL
Appreciate the great instructions and love the humor drop ins too! 👍🏼🤣😂🤣
Yes in my instructional videos, I like to pepper in humor so the user does not get bored, but finds some enjoyment, plus good instruction.