Are the Cubs foolish or making the right move acquiring Kyle Tucker? | Baseball Today

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  • @wallberlin
    @wallberlin 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    1:12 missed an opportunity to name him Flouffe Plouffe

  • @Mike-G-15
    @Mike-G-15 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Cubs currently sit at $215M payroll, or $26M below the $241M CBT line. They will likely stay around $230M going into the season, so let's say they currently have $15M available. Here's the path if they actually want to be a serious WS contender, alleviate some logjams, and still hold onto most top prospects:
    1) Complete Bellinger trade with Yankees for Warren and Effross. Warren goes to AAA for more SP depth, Effross rejoins Cubs bullpen on projected $1M arb salary. For Bellinger's contract, Cubs eat $2.5M of the $27.5M in 2025, and $5M in 2026 (either the $5M buyout if he opts out, or $5M of the remaining $25M if he opts in). That makes Yankees responsible for just $25M in 2025, or $45M over both years (probably close to what his market value would be anyways). Cubs gain $24M in available spending from this move, so they now sit at $39M available.
    2) Complete the rumored Luzardo trade with Marlins (return would likely be something like Triantos, Wicks or another young depth SP, a lower ranked prospect, and maybe an expendable but intriguing 40-man OF bat like Canario). Rotation is now set with Steele-Imanaga-Taillon-Luzardo-Boyd, sliding Assad back in bullpen swingman role and first up for any spot starts (Brown, Horton, Warren, Birdsell, Kilian plenty of SP depth at AAA). Luzardo is projected for $6M in arbitration, so Cubs now sit at $33M available.
    3) If you're sending out an impact bat in Bellinger, better bring in one, and the best spot for that with Paredes gone is now 3B - give Bregman the nearly $200M deal he's looking for ($189M over 7 years or $27M AAV). Bregman would also be a positive factor when trying to re-sign Tucker next year. Shaw slides over to his more natural 2B position, and Hoerner is traded to Seattle for top catcher prospect Harry Ford (blocked by Raleigh in Seattle). Hoerner's AAV is $12M, so you're only adding another $15M AAV total by signing Bregman and trading Hoerner. Cubs now sit at $18M available.
    4) Need 2 more bullpen arms including a proven closer - Kirby Yates has been rumored and can probably be had on a 1 or 2 year deal at $10M AAV. AJ Minter has also been rumored and can fill the role of a lefty setup man on a 2 year deal for the remaining $8M AAV.
    Lineup: Happ, Bregman, Tucker, Suzuki, Busch, Swanson, Shaw, PCA, Amaya/Kelly
    Rotation: Steele, Imanaga, Taillon, Luzardo, Boyd
    Bullpen: Yates, Hodge, Minter, Miller, Pearson, Morgan, Effross, Assad (Thompson, Little, and Roberts depth at AAA)
    Only traded Smith and Triantos from top 100 prospects. Still have Shaw, Caissie, Horton, Ballesteros, Alcantara, and Rojas. (Caissie or Alcantara would be best trade assets at trade deadline, keep one trade one)

  • @ryanfoltz1276
    @ryanfoltz1276 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +23

    The only problem with trading Belli is if PCA gets hurt. Even still, Cubs could bring up Owen Caissie. Cubs don't really need OF right now. They do need another starter and a closer. Trading Belli means Cubs could sign Finnegan or Scott and still be able to afford Burnes, Flaherty, or another FA starter

    • @DixonCider1234
      @DixonCider1234 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      $32M for a 4th OF...

    • @jtrades2134
      @jtrades2134 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Or trade PCA for Jared Jones and sign Finnegan.

  • @nicholaskatsikas4904
    @nicholaskatsikas4904 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    The Cubs needed to trade for Tucker to at bare minimum placate a fan base who has been VERY disappointed with their team and the front office. The roster as it was had reached its ceiling and Tucker at bare minimum should raise that ceiling and will be co favorites for the division. What the Cubs now need to do is make decisions on Bellinger and Horner because they need to get some of those prospects up to the major league level and have legitimate upside.

  • @ryanfoltz1276
    @ryanfoltz1276 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    The Cubs FO offered Rizzo, Bryant, and Baez long term deals. All of them rejected it. They wanted to test free agency. It worked out beautifully for the Cubs though that all 3 of them declined. Rizzo ended up taking less from NYY.

    • @brandonthompson628
      @brandonthompson628 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      All 3 ended up with less actually

  • @GamingClips7
    @GamingClips7 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Busch at 3rd? Where are we getting ideas like this?

  • @SymboIik
    @SymboIik 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like this show the best. Especially cause Chris keeps Trevor from rambling off repeating words when it comes to a yes or no question and Trevor does the same 😂

  • @lousassle9387
    @lousassle9387 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    7:10 Plouffe is helping everyone understand what the Dodgers demonstrated on route to a CHAMPIONSHIP.

  • @Golden_OG
    @Golden_OG 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Busch at 3B is questionable, can't rely on Shaw to be an every day guy at 3B either. 3B and bullpen is what the Cubs need to define still. Note: They could still move Nico (hearing Mariners?) and Busch could play 2B.

  • @Teremei
    @Teremei 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Busch sucks at 3B. You are not going to downgrade defense at 3B that much when D is so important.

  • @taydcan
    @taydcan 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Saying Tucker is a top 10 everyday player is pretty tough. Shohei, Judge, Soto, Acuna, Mookie, Freddie, Bobby Witt, Tatis, Lindor, Jose Ramirez. That’s 10 right there and there’s a couple more that I’d take over him. Maybe top 20

    • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
      @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right now, I think you’d have to take Tucker over Acuña, since the latter won’t be ready by Opening Day, and the last time (!) he came back from an ACL tear, it took a full season for his production to recover, and even before he got hurt, he wasn’t off to a great start in 2024. Tatís is a better defender than Tucker, but his offense hasn’t recovered to its pre-suspension levels (2023-24 combined: 118 OPS+ for Tatís vs. 155 for Tucker). Freeman is slowly starting to show some signs of decline. But we’re splitting hairs; top 10, top 15, the difference is small, and everyone’s list is going to be slightly different.

    • @taydcan
      @taydcan 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ that’s fair, we gotta see what Acuna does after a 2nd major injury as well. I can’t believe I also didn’t mention Bryce! But yes Tucker might be closer to top 15 given his + defense, and borderline top 10 with another great season.

    • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
      @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@taydcan Haha, I forgot about Bryce too! 🤦🏽‍♂️😆 And yeah, I’d like to see Tucker put together a full MVP-caliber season. He was well on his way in 2024, with an incredible 180 wRC+, but he’s yet to have a full-season OPS+/wRC+ > 150 or put up 6+ bWAR/fWAR, though I didn’t realize how remarkably consistent his WAR totals have been. And let’s hope Acuña comes back at full strength (even though I’m a Mets fan lol). But man, we’re lucky to get to watch so many greats all playing at the same time. A majority of the guys you listed are likely Hall-of-Famers, maybe first ballot. That’s pretty cool.

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The cubs had to make a move like this, I still feel really bad for As fans man

  • @Glazetrain23
    @Glazetrain23 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a lifelong cubs fan I would push some chips in to get aggressive with the prospects not named Caissie or Shaw. Called the Athletics and gauge how much it would take to get mason miller. Stop fighting the media war negotiations with the Yankees for Belli and test Seattle’s mettle for Logan Gilbert for Nico, Belli, and some prospects

    • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
      @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I suspect the Cubs would need to set their sights a bit lower than Mason Miller or Logan Gilbert, if they’re unwilling to include Shaw, and/or Caissie in a deal (especially if they also want to shed even part of Bellinger’s salary). I doubt Miller or Gilbert are getting dealt, anyway.

  • @billmiller9448
    @billmiller9448 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Congratulations Ploufe's I need a puppy video!

  • @IPANoah
    @IPANoah 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    In fairness to the cubs- they offered the all of the core guys contract extensions except Schwarber

    • @DaddyRatchet23
      @DaddyRatchet23 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And in hindsight I think he's the only one they really would have missed, and when then I am a pretty big Happ proponent (obviously he could DH now though).
      Would have loved to have had Rizzo obviously, but I don't think he moves the needle given the roster and his production and injuries.

    • @mastod0n1
      @mastod0n1 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@DaddyRatchet23 iirc Rizzo was still hitting at an above average rate until he played 3 months with a concussion last year and he hasn't been the same since

    • @bevrosity
      @bevrosity 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      the only one thats still good.

  • @uwupandaXD
    @uwupandaXD 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    i don't believe that michael busch is a 3B, i haven't seen anything that proves he could do it.
    C: Amaya / Kelly
    1B: Cody Bellinger
    2B: Michael Busch (while Nico Hoerner recovers from surgery, won't be ready to start the season)
    3B: Matt Shaw
    SS: Dansby Swanson
    LF: Ian Happ
    CF: Pete Crow-Armstrong
    RF: Kyle Tucker
    DH: Seiya Suzuki

    • @ayydubs987
      @ayydubs987 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      as a dodger fan, he’s definitely not a 3rd baseman.

    • @arkhaminmate3727
      @arkhaminmate3727 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This lineup could win the central with the addition of some pitching

  • @XCal1bur23
    @XCal1bur23 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Don't trade Bellinger? Where will he play on the Cubs? Do either of you even know the Cubs roster? You don't have a $30M bench player. Good gawd. It's baseball. Look it up. 😂

    • @naturallawman2965
      @naturallawman2965 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The only way it could work is moving Busch to 3B (which he can) and your full-time roster becomes -- Happ LF / PCA CF / Tucker RF / Busch 3B / Swanson SS / Hoerner 2B / Bellinger 1B / Amaya C / Suzuki DH.

  • @craigbrindle108
    @craigbrindle108 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Busch ain’t moving to third. He could play second base until Nico is healthy.

  • @evanmartinez3799
    @evanmartinez3799 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    What are the chances the Cubs trade their prospects to get Mason Miller?😂Jk but I would trade for Clase in a heartbeat

  • @thejazzman210
    @thejazzman210 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As much as I would love to see Bellinger, Tucker and Susuki in the middle of that lineup at the same time, but the only way it'll work is if they trade Hoerner for some pitching and move Busch to 2nd, or package Busch and one of their top prospects for some pitching. Any trade combo would have to bring a starter and/or reliever back. Then you could have Bellinger at 1st, Tucker in right and Susuki DHing.

  • @MarkRichardsonDigital
    @MarkRichardsonDigital 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Man, these MOVA globe ads are brutal lol. Rosey is the ultimate team player.

  • @allentrinidad2355
    @allentrinidad2355 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    CUBS NEED PITCHING. Trading Nico is the best route to acquire good pitching. The Cubs have many MANY interesting infield prospects other than Matt Shaw and James Triantos so trading nico won’t hurt them as much as trading Belli. Imagine cubs getting a Seattle Mariner SP.

  • @joshuaspidel6603
    @joshuaspidel6603 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This isn't MLB the Show...you can't just "put Busch at 3rd." Busch also was really really good defensively at 1st after the 1st month or so. It seems Cubs want Shaw at 3rd so they might sign a Moancada type to battle with Shaw/have on the bench. You don't have a 20+ million dollar player on the bench (Suzuki or Bellinger) and your not taking PCA out of center...so there's just no room...so why not free up money to upgrade at places that need it? (bench, SP and RP)

  • @jordancrosno9711
    @jordancrosno9711 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shoulda named it Luigi

  • @tylerb3428
    @tylerb3428 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Big cubs fan here. If we don’t re sign Tucker this will be unfortunate. We weren’t 1 piece away.
    But, this forces Jed to actually go for it and step up to the plate. We have the money, but don’t spend the money. Cam smith is the only worry.
    We need to double our highest contract ever to re sign him. However, this makes the Cubs a playoff team.

    • @tylerb3428
      @tylerb3428 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      PCA is playing CF everyday. Cody will need to play 1st and fill in for outfield. Michael Busch could play 3rd or 2B if Nico is gone in a Castillo deal.

    • @tylerb3428
      @tylerb3428 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Matt Shaw coming up to fill in 2B/3B. While Cody is 1B/OF & Busch 1B/3B. We need another starter and bullpen. Not really thrilled about luzardo. But if we rolled out
      1. Imanaga
      2. Steele
      3. Castillo
      4. Taillon
      5. Luzardo
      That would be legit. Plus Kirby Yates or Finnegan

  • @kelsibradley4800
    @kelsibradley4800 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I mean Kyle Tucker was out of the line up for majority of the year and the Astros still made it to the postseason. Even if it was only for 2 games. Tucker doesn’t usually do good in the post season. I’ll miss him. Hopefully he does good.
    I don’t think Bregman will be back unfortunately. I think him leaving stings more than Tucker😢
    Ryan Pressley did horrible last year. Relief pitching was not good last year. Hopefully if we keep him he’ll be better. I think he’s better as a closer.

  • @tylerjacobs2200
    @tylerjacobs2200 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Losing Bellinger is perfectly okay with me. Make an all out effort to extend Tucker. The number one priority should be filling out the bullpen before you end up with another Hector Neris-esque closing situation. The 2024 Cubs bullpen was a white flag for chunks of the season and it is absolutely unacceptable.

  • @beokayian5378
    @beokayian5378 31 วินาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Cubs may as well jump in the DEEP END and make a move for Vlad Jr too. Let's go delulu and pair King Tuck and Vlad Jr.

  • @tomb5594
    @tomb5594 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I can tell ya what wasn’t good for my mental health Rose and that’s that rant about the sizable gap between the “mighty” cubs and the Brewers lol. Way to make a Brewers fan feel inadequate

  • @DoctorDeuce
    @DoctorDeuce 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Crazy to say the tigers whooped the astros, when it was close game 1 against a 2019 Cole level guy, and a blown save game 2. Forcing a division winner to play a wild card is rslurded in the first place.

  • @njfuentesrespecter81
    @njfuentesrespecter81 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    They’re dumb as hell unless they’re prepared to offer a 9 figure contract that starts with a 7, because that’s what Tucker will hold out to hit FA for. He didn’t even entertain an offer from the Astros

  • @alexfross4927
    @alexfross4927 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    busch isnt a guy we trust at 3rd. if anything we trade nico and let busch or shaw play second. i think itd be a good idea to keep belli but i doubt they will

  • @markbailey17
    @markbailey17 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    as if i needed another reason to love trevor plouffe.

    • @Feanor026
      @Feanor026 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      which part ?

  • @shaneturner1809
    @shaneturner1809 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its certainly time to trade Vlad. However Atkins knows he'll be fired for even suggesting it.
    He's still going to be fired later on in 2025 once the Jays continue to falter with their new defensive first identity with no hitters outside of Bo and Vlad.
    But the front office wont admit defeat, nor will they do right by the fanbase.
    The Jays are going to be just good enough to not trade Bo or Vlad at the deadline, sell off what little is left on the farm. Not make the playoffs, and spend the next decade pondering what could have been without incompetent management trying to overthink everything
    Signed, A sad Jays fan

  • @shaylarz
    @shaylarz 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If the A’s continue to improve their pitching staff, they’ll be a competitive team. Offense has been decent for the last couple seasons. But I don’t want John Fisher to have nice things.

  • @VegasLoungeAct
    @VegasLoungeAct ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Tucker isn't making much money this year. Can't welcome the Cubs to the big boy table unless they extend him.

  • @the_beef4762
    @the_beef4762 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    After the Padres lost the playoffs I had to take a break from baseball for a while. First time tuning in for a couple months, missed Trev's gorgeous face. Still healing but starting to get excited again for the season. Soccer has been good to pass the time but starting to get the baseball itch.

    • @calvinthagoatENT
      @calvinthagoatENT 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      We smoking that Padre pack 😂

  • @kyledrobnik3852
    @kyledrobnik3852 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    As a cubs fan, I think Trading Seya is our best path forward. There have been some reports he or his camp aren’t happy with basically being a full time DH. And I think that opens up a lot of flexibility to give Happ, Tucker, Belli, Busch days off rotating in and out and still gives a path for a young guy or 2 (Shaw, Cassie, etc.) to come up for regular ABs.
    I’d then use his ~19M to get a bullpen arm or 2 in FA

    • @kyledrobnik3852
      @kyledrobnik3852 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      After further research, he may have a full no trade per spotrac, so it may be a little tricky, but I think it’s worth investigating..
      Also agree w C Rose if we could get Clase that would be 🔥

    • @hectorcastle1187
      @hectorcastle1187 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Why are the Cubs wanting to trade Bellinger in the first place?

    • @gabrielkrzysiak7497
      @gabrielkrzysiak7497 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hectorcastle1187
      Don’t need 5 outfielders, and his money is better spent on a starting pitcher or bullpen help. The cubs bullpen blew 30 saves last year, flip half of those and they very easily make the playoffs

    • @hectorcastle1187
      @hectorcastle1187 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@gabrielkrzysiak7497 Thanks. I thought Belli playing CF makes the most sense. I know Cubs 4 of the 5 OF. But Belli is pretty expensive so using that $ on position of weakness makes sense.

    • @srellison561
      @srellison561 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Happ is 30. He's still good and we could get some young talent in exchange. He would be a better trade option to reduce the number of outfielders. The Cubs are too invested in Seya to easily let him go.

  • @ren1818ren
    @ren1818ren 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dang it’s been to long, thanks fellas

  • @nox1ck589
    @nox1ck589 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The brewers have feasted on a weak NL central and just choke every year in the postseason they don't deserve to be in the playoffs cause they never go anywhere with even elite talent like their rotation that they wasted.

  • @arkhaminmate3727
    @arkhaminmate3727 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They should trade nobody now, sign two good starters. Go win the central.

  • @jadap1789
    @jadap1789 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Rose confirmed not in the cult 🙏🏽

  • @The_Real_OQ
    @The_Real_OQ 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Keep Belli, he becomes everyday 1st baseman. Trade Nico and prospects to Seattle for a SP. Busch goes to 2nd, Shaw to 3rd. Sign or trade for more bullpen, maybe Kirby Yates or Andrew Chafin. Bam A+ offseason

  • @lucasvaughn9759
    @lucasvaughn9759 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Idiotic if they don’t resign him, fantastic if they do.

  • @schlootle
    @schlootle 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah i think this is gonna be a sleeper year for the Astros. Trading Tucker was a great move IMO and necessary, 2024 clearly showed they have a lot of holes to fill while not having the resources to do so. In 2026 they will have $30 million come off the books in Abreu and Montero contracts ending. Financially they were in a terrible position. I think they actually are in a good position for 2026. RIP 2025 though

    • @nicholaskatsikas4904
      @nicholaskatsikas4904 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I’ll be shocked if there not major players for Vlad who’s swing fits perfectly for Houston

  • @demetriusarteaga8242
    @demetriusarteaga8242 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I will laugh out loud if Kyle tucker does not re😂sign with the Cubs next season

    • @demetriusarteaga8242
      @demetriusarteaga8242 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ yeah if he does put the numbers up and still does not resign with the Cubs I will still laugh out loud

    • @AndrewCalhounSongs
      @AndrewCalhounSongs 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's worth it even if he doesn't.

  • @colelarsen-cj-8952
    @colelarsen-cj-8952 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Team bad for getting good player?

  • @GetMoneyFuggBidges
    @GetMoneyFuggBidges 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Stay the course, don’t trade for a superstar, sail off into the dull sunset of mediocre baseball☀️

  • @doyce100
    @doyce100 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pressly asked to be traded

  • @SicSh0t5
    @SicSh0t5 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    alcantara is better than caissie

  • @joshymcguire
    @joshymcguire 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Talk about baseball, not politics…

  • @BornTroublesome
    @BornTroublesome 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Do you really think we care about your dog

  • @Peter-tn5hm
    @Peter-tn5hm 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Plouffecoin when

  • @utlonghorns104ever
    @utlonghorns104ever 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Based C Rose - it’s gonna be great for the next 4 years 🇺🇸

  • @Thepinstripebugle
    @Thepinstripebugle 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Foolish

  • @TheSmithhhz
    @TheSmithhhz 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Don't talk about the Blue Jays, your American ignorance shows everytime you do.

  • @Snazzeo
    @Snazzeo 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Kinda wish the Cubs got Soto last year tbh feels like a year late to make a move like this

    • @emophase2224
      @emophase2224 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah, just happy that Tucker's a Cub. Hope Ricketts will use some of Tom's 2.3 billion to keep him around