First of all Judge and everyone in the team respectfully gave him space throuhgout the process because they know how it is. In fact he had a post that during the season is where they tried convincing him to stay. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, the comment Juan made seemed pretty consistent with his approach. When Judge was questioned about reaching out during the contract negotiation phase, Judge was pretty clear that he knew Juan would want his space. I think people were respecting what Soto wanted the whole time.
From what I can tell, it seems like the Yankees treated him like an employee, a colleague. Whereas he was looking for a place that treated him like family
I’m with Trevor, this is not a deal at all. Soto has been what he’s always been. He’s a Mercenary and that’s perfectly fine. Soto is not be the vocal guy or emotional leader, but It doesn’t mean there was any animosity between Soto and teammates. He’s a loner guy and there are plenty of athletes that are and have been like that throughout sports history.
I watched probably 120 Yankees games, and never had the feeling he was a Yankee long term. They say his number was changed, these guys are behind on the overall story.
I think trev is wrong and we should expect our captains and superstars who want to win to try and reach out and get players. The player to player interaction is Why you are he captain now be it.
@@christopherclayton7345Same could kind of be said the other way. In that timeframe Judge won the MVP and Soto didn’t even reach out to congratulate him? A bit odd from all sides here
Why isn' t a thought provided to the fact that Soto may have paused before answering because English isn't his first language? He maybe comfortable and able to speak English fairly fluently but allowing a guy to gather a thought and probably translate it in his head should be given some consideration.,
At first i was thinking, soto was only there for one season. Maybe he just didnt build enough a bond with those guys in that time. But then i look at someone like teoscar hernandez an how close he was with the dodgers in only one season. Maybe trevs right that its a plus if your guy is building those relationships in the clubhouse. But not everyone is that guy 🤷🏻♂️
The Yankees culture failed Juan Soto. In the introductory press conference they all constantly mentioned family and the friendly atmosphere of the Mets and BOTH Francisco Lindor and Brandon Nimmo had lengthy conversations with Soto during the negotiations.
Soto even said (paraphrasing) other than the money (so it was about money too) he thinks this is the best place for his family and he likes the vision of the future. I don’t think he needs to say more than that and that feels like the truth. Idk why this is such a thing
people who have never seen that kind of money can't imagine that an athlete makes these decisions on anything besides the money. yeah, I think the ability to earn up to 805 mil in one fewer year was appealing to Soto, of course. I think what Trev said is right. Soto can be more himself and have a chance to go down as the Mets all time greatest player, instead of being second to Judge for another 7 years and then behind dozens of other yankee legends in history
There is no right answer for Soto at least for Yankee fans. Best thing he can do is focus on baseball and forget everything else. I wouldn’t blame him if he went full Belichick ie “We’re on to spring training.”😂
Wasn't Judge given some sort of position at the table when it came to roster choices? That's all I heard about after he signed, how he and Cole will be a part of those type of discussions. That's where I'm confused at Judge not recruiting.... Unless Judge didn't want Soto in the Bronx 🤷
Why is it difficult for Trevor to admit that it was all about the money for Soto? It’s completely obvious. Is it because he’s so pro player and he thinks people don’t like the fact that it was all about the money? I’m genuinely curious. It’s just weird as a former player that He can’t admit that.
That pitcher list article is absolutely full shit. There's a reason why you've never heard of them Chris. Shame on you for even giving them free press. I guarantee you Elias and Rubenstein are on the same page and there's over 3 months left. Relax on the O's until we're in ST. We need to do more but I'm not upset with anything they have done either. Burnes wants to be on the West coast, there's nothing we can do about that
Stop making it a thing, it's absolutely not weird for Yankees players to be trying to give Soto space to make a decision... to say he looked "lonely" when describing it is hilarious lmao. Bro is sitting in his hundreds of millions he's not sad
Rose wants judge not talking him to be the reason so bad. Im with trev. He was on so many teams and this off season was for him. Its not about texting people he's trying to leave
Rosey is giving too much thought to Soto's pauses etc. His English isn't as strong as you think it is, he has to think about it, make sure he is saying it the right way. He takes his english speaking very seriously and has worked at it for a very long time.
He left for the money and all the special treatment he was gunna get with the Mets. The Dodgers and Yankees wouldn't because they already do for guys that mean more to them. Why do I feel like he's gunna take his foot off the pedal cuz of this
@jaro4742 dudes the second highest paid guy and he went to the dodgers cos they offered him the most he followed the money too you don't get to say your playing for the love of the game when your getting 700 million dollars to play it
If the MLB follows its usual form, after signing Soto to all that money, the Mets will finish in third place and lose to the Phillies in the Wild Card round.
Just stop Chris. The difference between 700 m & 800 m doesn’t matter at that point. Like Trev said Soto didn’t want to be a yankee because they’re a lame old school organization that is out of touch and is stuck up thinking they’re better than everyone. Soto would have lost a ton of fans if he was a yankee for the rest of his career because most people hate yankee players because they think they’re the best and think they’re special. They’re not they’re lame and make the players shave and no names on jersey etc. Yankees are OLD man get it through your head the difference of 50 million doesn’t matter at those numbers and Trevor is saying it in a nice way but ask Trev he knows bellinger wouldn’t want to be a Yankee either because they’re stuck in the past
100%, the yankees' offer relied on their history but Steve Cohen only talked about the future with soto in it. Tbh, I could've convinced Soto to go to the Mets, it's not difficult to see how Cohen could build such a compelling narrative about why Soto should be a met
These young great players don't want to be told how to have their hair, or beards. Let them grow it out and get with the times. The Yankee organization acts like it's the 1950's with their stupid rules for the players and such. Only players they get are through trade, players who grew up a fan, or they don't care about cutting hair/beard. Too Old School!
Give me a break. For some people the difference in money does make the difference. Why are you pretending that everything we heard about Soto for years is not true? It’s been said he wanted the top dollar. Guess what, that’s exactly what happened. He went for the top offer.
@ShrexyGuy maybe write complete sentences if you want to come at me for reading lol. And like they said it was a late addition to the program and so it Wasn't the main topic. Might want to get the ears cleaned.
Mariners ownership are super cheap. They won’t just pay for a free agent. It really sucks for the fans as there has been some info put out there that the Mariner’s TOTAL budget for the offseason is $16 million. That doesn’t fill all the holes.
Try being a brewers fan we just traded away a top 3 reliever cause we can’t afford a relievers contract lol. Traded away a cy young pitcher last offseason too
Kyle Tucker goes to the CUBS! Rose, Plouffe, and Jake will be discussing it over on Talkin Baseball today. Baseball Today will be back on Monday!
...and right as I finish watching the ep, Tucker goes to the Cubs. XD See you guys again soon, I guess.
Pete's Homer off Williams was epic
Lose Soto to the Mets, next they get someone who gets owned by the Mets 😂
“He did it! He did it!”
First of all Judge and everyone in the team respectfully gave him space throuhgout the process because they know how it is. In fact he had a post that during the season is where they tried convincing him to stay. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, the comment Juan made seemed pretty consistent with his approach. When Judge was questioned about reaching out during the contract negotiation phase, Judge was pretty clear that he knew Juan would want his space. I think people were respecting what Soto wanted the whole time.
@@kevinhu7684 and, at the same time, a guy goes a year and doesn't develop any relationships? That's not space.
Some of Cashman's best work
As a NYY fan I'm happy to spend the money on 4-5 players.
Nor Judge or any Yankees called Soto to congratulate him, but that goes both way as Soto did not call Judge to congratulate him for winning the AL MVP
Not disagreeing cause you are 100% right. But maybe there was more to the relationship soto had with the Yankees that we dont know about.
From what I can tell, it seems like the Yankees treated him like an employee, a colleague. Whereas he was looking for a place that treated him like family
@@christopherclayton7345 HOGWASH! Soto wanted every cent he could get and didn't really care about any allegiance!
What it is, a teen soap opera?
Turns out Soto changed his number after the season… didn’t give it out. What a bum to not mention that.
I’m with Trevor, this is not a deal at all. Soto has been what he’s always been. He’s a Mercenary and that’s perfectly fine. Soto is not be the vocal guy or emotional leader, but It doesn’t mean there was any animosity between Soto and teammates. He’s a loner guy and there are plenty of athletes that are and have been like that throughout sports history.
I think Chris is missing that Cohen was going to exceed whatever Yanks were going to offer and Soto was going to go to the top dollar regardless.
The first thing I thought when he said he hasn't talked to them is he didn't like those guys and that's why he went with the Mets.
I watched probably 120 Yankees games, and never had the feeling he was a Yankee long term. They say his number was changed, these guys are behind on the overall story.
I think trev is wrong and we should expect our captains and superstars who want to win to try and reach out and get players. The player to player interaction is Why you are he captain now be it.
100% it could have been something as simple as just sending a text. It just seems odd to me that Judge didn't really play a role whatsoever
@@christopherclayton7345Same could kind of be said the other way. In that timeframe Judge won the MVP and Soto didn’t even reach out to congratulate him? A bit odd from all sides here
word is his number was changed, he knew he was going.
I got to admit, Soto in that Mets uniform suits him. Slimy orange.
I totally agree with Trevor on soto!
You guys were my number 1 podcast 2024. I had 77 hours!
Devin Williams the pitch tipper. Nice
Rosey confrontational today 🤣
That definitely replaces 41 HR and 129 BB
Trevor “Not a Yankee Hater” Plouffe
Yankees fans in shambles this week. Fun to watch from the mile high
I'd mock the rockies, but they're a joke on their own
@@ShrexyGuy let the rockies have this one, they desperately need a morale boost 😂
hats off to the yankees, phenomenal trade.
Why isn' t a thought provided to the fact that Soto may have paused before answering because English isn't his first language? He maybe comfortable and able to speak English fairly fluently but allowing a guy to gather a thought and probably translate it in his head should be given some consideration.,
Some kinda Nintendo bomb blast at 7:48, cool.
Nikola Jokic in the NBA is a 3x MVP & loves his horses, and I bet he's the exact same way as Soto.
Nightengale just tweeted that it's because Soto changed his cell number
This is Nestor’s punishment for giving up the Freddie Freeman homer
Yankees, please keep leveraging the future for rentals. Its working out great
If not one Yankee player called to recruit Soto does that say more about the Yankees players or more about Soto?
Leaving aside the recruiting "job", for me the not calling him is odd from a friendship standpoint.
Twist - Soto says he changed his number... was getting too many calls.
Juan is like me - we both love those carbs!
At first i was thinking, soto was only there for one season. Maybe he just didnt build enough a bond with those guys in that time. But then i look at someone like teoscar hernandez an how close he was with the dodgers in only one season. Maybe trevs right that its a plus if your guy is building those relationships in the clubhouse. But not everyone is that guy 🤷🏻♂️
as of 2:45pm in the east…. looks like cubs won the trade tor KT 👀
The Yankees culture failed Juan Soto. In the introductory press conference they all constantly mentioned family and the friendly atmosphere of the Mets and BOTH Francisco Lindor and Brandon Nimmo had lengthy conversations with Soto during the negotiations.
Tucker to cubs👀
Manaea actually had a great 2nd half for the Giants just saying
Soto even said (paraphrasing) other than the money (so it was about money too) he thinks this is the best place for his family and he likes the vision of the future. I don’t think he needs to say more than that and that feels like the truth. Idk why this is such a thing
What did Toronto/Canada do to you Trevor? We let your Twins beat us for the WC in 2023. What more do you want from us?
I think Elly and Soto talk! I wonder if they spoke?
people who have never seen that kind of money can't imagine that an athlete makes these decisions on anything besides the money. yeah, I think the ability to earn up to 805 mil in one fewer year was appealing to Soto, of course. I think what Trev said is right. Soto can be more himself and have a chance to go down as the Mets all time greatest player, instead of being second to Judge for another 7 years and then behind dozens of other yankee legends in history
Yankee fans dealing with the stages of grief is exhausting
🤡
not all 9f us by any means.
Get off our 🥜
There is no right answer for Soto at least for Yankee fans. Best thing he can do is focus on baseball and forget everything else. I wouldn’t blame him if he went full Belichick ie “We’re on to spring training.”😂
I think..... we're trying to establish a great deal about inter-personal relationships based of a single sentence.
Tucker is a Cub
Buster Posey was hired to look at the intangibles, not just analytics, when evaluating talent...
Wasn't Judge given some sort of position at the table when it came to roster choices? That's all I heard about after he signed, how he and Cole will be a part of those type of discussions. That's where I'm confused at Judge not recruiting....
Unless Judge didn't want Soto in the Bronx 🤷
If anyone wants to know why Juan so left just look at the Ken Griffey Junior interview on why he would have never wanted to play for the Yankees
Robinson Cano?
Shit i just remembered, remember when soto was showing up to dodger stadium to watch his buddy max scherzer? Maybe he just didnt like being a yankee
Why is it difficult for Trevor to admit that it was all about the money for Soto? It’s completely obvious. Is it because he’s so pro player and he thinks people don’t like the fact that it was all about the money? I’m genuinely curious. It’s just weird as a former player that He can’t admit that.
Maybe thats just who Soto is. It appears thats how he was with the other team he left as well. Not a big deal.
That pitcher list article is absolutely full shit. There's a reason why you've never heard of them Chris. Shame on you for even giving them free press. I guarantee you Elias and Rubenstein are on the same page and there's over 3 months left. Relax on the O's until we're in ST. We need to do more but I'm not upset with anything they have done either. Burnes wants to be on the West coast, there's nothing we can do about that
Bit of a bit,h move at the 20:17 mark toward trevor. I really love the show, but cant stand the arrogance
That guy Durban sounds like such a brewer lol. So excited to make Yankee fans cope and get upset for once they needed to be dropped a peg.
20:45 thank you Trev! Imo Yankees are dated. They are NOT the top of the top anymore.
Stop making it a thing, it's absolutely not weird for Yankees players to be trying to give Soto space to make a decision... to say he looked "lonely" when describing it is hilarious lmao. Bro is sitting in his hundreds of millions he's not sad
It was all about the money.
I would not feel sad for someone making 800 mill
Funny how empathy seems to have a cap for people. As if someone being rich means they are any less human.
Rose wants judge not talking him to be the reason so bad. Im with trev. He was on so many teams and this off season was for him. Its not about texting people he's trying to leave
Yikes! Brewers lost this trade bad.
An injury prone, walk year reliever was never gonna get a crazy package, Durban is a Brewers type prospect
Love Nestor but his elbow is about to explode and durbin is unproven
Mets gotta go win a few before you can crown them kings . What are we even talking about ?
Sign bregman, Christian walker, and trade for bellinger and then we’re cooking
Tucker cubbie
Yankees gotta get some bats tho…
Maybe jazz moves to 2B and they go after bregman or arenado? Or jazz stays at 3B and they try to get Brandon Lowe from Tampa?
I bet the Yankees players tried to call Soto but the loser changed his number and was told not to communicate with his former Yankee teammates
Rosey is giving too much thought to Soto's pauses etc. His English isn't as strong as you think it is, he has to think about it, make sure he is saying it the right way. He takes his english speaking very seriously and has worked at it for a very long time.
Everyone scrambling to beat LA is fun to watch. They’re gonna remain dominant for the next decade folks.
He left for the money and all the special treatment he was gunna get with the Mets. The Dodgers and Yankees wouldn't because they already do for guys that mean more to them. Why do I feel like he's gunna take his foot off the pedal cuz of this
Of course it was about the money nobody plays for the love of the game anymore
Ohtani
@jaro4742 dudes the second highest paid guy and he went to the dodgers cos they offered him the most he followed the money too you don't get to say your playing for the love of the game when your getting 700 million dollars to play it
If the MLB follows its usual form, after signing Soto to all that money, the Mets will finish in third place and lose to the Phillies in the Wild Card round.
Good. I hope the Yankees mop the floor with the rest of the league. Probably won't happen, but hey, a man can hope, right? Go get 'em, Yanks.
Just stop Chris. The difference between 700 m & 800 m doesn’t matter at that point. Like Trev said Soto didn’t want to be a yankee because they’re a lame old school organization that is out of touch and is stuck up thinking they’re better than everyone. Soto would have lost a ton of fans if he was a yankee for the rest of his career because most people hate yankee players because they think they’re the best and think they’re special. They’re not they’re lame and make the players shave and no names on jersey etc. Yankees are OLD man get it through your head the difference of 50 million doesn’t matter at those numbers and Trevor is saying it in a nice way but ask Trev he knows bellinger wouldn’t want to be a Yankee either because they’re stuck in the past
100%, the yankees' offer relied on their history but Steve Cohen only talked about the future with soto in it. Tbh, I could've convinced Soto to go to the Mets, it's not difficult to see how Cohen could build such a compelling narrative about why Soto should be a met
These young great players don't want to be told how to have their hair, or beards. Let them grow it out and get with the times. The Yankee organization acts like it's the 1950's with their stupid rules for the players and such. Only players they get are through trade, players who grew up a fan, or they don't care about cutting hair/beard. Too Old School!
Give me a break. For some people the difference in money does make the difference. Why are you pretending that everything we heard about Soto for years is not true? It’s been said he wanted the top dollar. Guess what, that’s exactly what happened. He went for the top offer.
Did Soto congratulate judge on the mvp ?????
Great another playoff choker. Haha.
I think the Yankees need to stop the whole Clean Shave rule for players. Shit is ridiculous especially in 2024
CHAMPIONS WEAR BEARDS TOO!!!
Nah, they should keep it. Fits them well as the most arrogant franchise and one that can't stop living in the past.
Chris is so weirdly out of touch sometimes, I don't really get it
Gave up Durbin for a 1 year rental? OUCH.. why are the Yanks so desperate? Unless they can extend Williams.. Brewers easily won this trade.
😂😂 gave up a prospect who isn’t ranked high for the best reliever in baseball, dumbass take
Durbin ain’t even a ranked prospect homie
Durbin sees the ball better than 99% of the league, hopefully he pans out in the mlb
@@YankeesAvenueare u serious? Do u watch any Scranton railrider games? I live 20 minutes from their stadium durbin is real deal
Mets are the New Kings of New York!!!
Mutts are being hyped by a slow class bred, Peter Moylan lookin mf 😂😂😂
Nice. Dodgers are king of MLB
Mutts are kings of spending big money for no results.
Desperate enough to poach Lindor and still nothing 😂😂😂
@@ShrexyGuyjust stop. Yankees fans are embarrassing themselves with Soto signing it’s almost as good as election night this yr
@@ShrexyGuy Yankee fan talking about spending money is rich.. pun intended
Now sign Alonso and Santandar
Which team are you talking about? 😂
First lol
Take off the hat Rose… your hate for the Yankees is showing !!!
Lol, the main topic was the player you lost
@@Zo3yXthe main topic is Devin Williams.
U no read well, huh bro?
@ShrexyGuy maybe write complete sentences if you want to come at me for reading lol. And like they said it was a late addition to the program and so it Wasn't the main topic. Might want to get the ears cleaned.
Nice hat 🫡🫵🏽
Mariners ownership are super cheap. They won’t just pay for a free agent. It really sucks for the fans as there has been some info put out there that the Mariner’s TOTAL budget for the offseason is $16 million. That doesn’t fill all the holes.
Try being a brewers fan we just traded away a top 3 reliever cause we can’t afford a relievers contract lol. Traded away a cy young pitcher last offseason too