DOC HARLEY: HARLEY CRITICAL FASTENERS
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- Doc Harley from the Service Clinic at Low Country Harley-Davidson to help you with the health of your motorcycle! This week he talks about addressing critical fasteners during maintenance.
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Doc Harley is a motorcycle technician at Low Country Harley-Davidson with over thirty years working on motorcycles. Over the years at the dealership he has worked on Harley-Davidson, Buell, and Triumph motorcycles with a few other brands here and there from trade-ins. There are thousands of how-to videos out on TH-cam and other websites across the world. Doc’s goal is to help solve problems that people run into when using their service manual, share insights only found as a certified Harley® technician, and some of the tips he’s picked up over the years.
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Bought a used Harley from my local official Harley Davidson dealership a couple of years ago and was not impressed with the pre delivery inspection and service. The bike was rattling and squeaking when I was driving it from the dealership. At home I found many loose screws on my bike that wasn’t secured correctly. It took me 2 months to find and tighten all loose screws.
I have to agree with this unfortunately. I picked up my brand new 2019 Street Glide Special and when checking my trans oil found it was very low (only just touched the bottom of the dipstick) fearing I may have had the oil transfer issue, I took it back to be looked at. Tech's advised that it appeared there was no fluid transfer as the primary was at proper level and they topped up the trans oil. I checked the level frequently up to its first service and found the level didn't change after that. One could deduce that the pre-delivery checks had not been carried out correctly and I was running the bike with dangerously low oil level.
Everything beyond this, has been flawless with the bike and the dealership (touch wood) The guys there are usually top notch and give great customer service. They have the view once you buy a HD from them, your part of the family and how they deal with you seems to reflect that!
I learned something new to day. Thank you Doc!
today is a compound word not to be separated .... now you learn another thing ( today ) learn to spell, just say`n
Another great video! Keep up the great work!
Great tips thanks for your time.
Great info as always , I bought my first Harley Davidson Fatboy lo Special for my 60th birthday. & find your channel really good for us new HD riders 👌
Well done Doc. You are only one of few experts on UTube using the mid range torque setting advice. Using a low setting or mid range gives you some lee way to retighten a fitting if it continues to come loose or a on road quick fix. Ride Safe
Thanks Doc! Great video like always
Doc, love the speedo & tach above the bars like you have it here. These you can actually read as oppose to the tank setup.
Great info, thanks
Thanks Doc. Great information to have.
Thanks Doc!
Thanks for another helpful video
I'm glad you echo'd how I torque !!!! I always torque to mid range, never at full range torque. Great info once again :-)
Good information to know. Thank you
Yep thanks doc. Love it!
Just a suggestion to DIY’ers, watch a couple of you tube vids on how to properly use a torque wrench. I have been surprised at what I’ve seen. This includes the proper use of extensions. Nothing worse then going to the effort to check torque and either under or over achieve the setting of the wrench. Something as simple as how you hold the tool will affect your reading.
Now to find the list of torque specs for 16 RGU.......🏍
Hey Doc what about an upload about your personal history with Harley with regards to your past bikes and racing history. Would be very interesting 👍
You are an essential service Doc Harley All the best from. Harley Fans in Australia. 🇦🇺🇺🇲🇦🇺🇺🇲👍
Advisory: if and when threads are stripped out in aluminum, don't use helicoils, that only replicates the problem! A much better thread repair would be with Time-serts!
Be assured you will definitely be impressed!
Wooow Doc, unfortunatly i’m from Italy, if only i could send you my bike to be serviced at your clinic!!!Here the dealer’s services are so unprepared that you have to go for private mechanics, always getting the feeling that they barely know what they are doing....
Thanks Doc...a common sense answer to when to use loctite...and how much or how little.
Great info, Doc, just added a little bit more knowledge to the old "brain housing"
Hey Doc,
Please share this tip:
1: My bore brushes for cleaning guns do a great job on cleaning internal threads.
2: Use the nylon brush, no problems.
3: Use an electric drill on slow, if you feel confident you wont damage ANYTHING
Mitigate risk. CW & CCW
4: WD40 seems to help clean old locktite
Great tip. Thanks ~ Doc
Great video
Thanks for watching Tim….Doc
Another home run video.
So the question is WHY did HD remove/eliminate that listing in the first place from 2013 on??? 🤔
@Phil To save on ink. Don't laugh, the motor company has been deleting so many things in the past 10 years, all just so the stockholders can get more money. Won't be long before the company will be bought out by a Chinese or Indian investor group.
I think I have the answer to that question. I just tried to get a service manual for the 96 in twin cam I recently bought and even though I live in Canada the parts guy at the local dealership told me he couldn't order me one. Said Harley is lobbying to enact laws in the US preventing riders from doing certain maintenance for 'safety reasons'. True or not? I don't know but thats the story I got.
Great info Doc! But I can't find the torque specs anywhere for the Flux Capacitor on my Roadglide???
@@danielmorris3687 They have those available at my dealership, my brother and I just got service manuals for our bikes and he has a 98 TC. I think you were just told a urban legend story.
@@DanielRyanScott That could be. The guy didn't seem to be too on the ball. Maybe it's just this particular dealership not wanting to lose any service work? I ended up getting one from a friend of a friend for free which was cool. Been riding HD for 35 years and have never taken my bike to a shop and don't want to start now.
Doc can you do some videos on Trikes for us old guys that had to give up 2 wheels,,like taking the body off and any other you can do on Trikes
Not sure what this has to do with critical fasteners but I accept the suggestion and will try. Thanks ~ Doc
What grease do you use on the forward foot controls they use too have grease fittings thanks. I have a 1998 FXDWG
Thanks Doc. That is good info. Is that true on all models. I have a 2012 Roadking .....
I am not sure what you are asking. Critical fastener page should be in your 2012 HD Service manual. Yes it is true that every year and model should be checked at every service. Thanks ~ Doc
Air or Battery impacts are fine for removing bolts and screws . but hand tools are the only way to go installing them . the battery impact 150 foot pounds will strip about all the aluminum threading out . Trans bolts to inner primary engine bolts to inner primary , all the 1/4- 20 allen head to outer primary .
I too install with hand tools. I can Jam anything with power...Doc
Bought my first service manual
In 2007
When the moco wanted around
1500 $$ to change my bars
My service manual have saved me a ton of $$$$
Ps
I also do the mid range on the torque settings
I also Clean the holes out with a thread chaser then spray out with brake clean
Finally spray out with air
Cause a litttle oil in a rocker hole will do some damage
Don’t ask me how I know
Yep the Doc
found handle bar risers bolts where loose on the bottom large bolts under triple clamp you need to check them to...
Thanks for sharing..Doc
Ok for all of you who don’t understand, Harley doesnt make manuals or instructions for the diy’ers. They are made for people who already have knowledge on the product. Hence why things are left out sometimes and other times it’s a misprint
Hey Doc, what's the link for your thread chaser kit?
I've never seen a torque wrench that small. Where did you get it?
Excellent!!!!
A thread chaserkit... hmm looks like my that's my next purchase today... who knew?
All bikes vibrate in some part of their of operating range to say nothing of the ratty roads we must travel.....tightening up is a normal periodic service just like changing oil.
Is there a difference from the "thread chaser/ cleaner" you use and a thread tap?
A thread “tap” is actually cutting new threads. A thread “chaser” is only chasing or cleaning the threads.
never thought about removing the old loctite, and now I feel bad about that because it seems like a no brainer... Oops and again Doc Harley much thanks!!!
Your welcome....Doc
Hello doc Harley. I've watch some TH-cam videos on flushing the brake fluid on Late Model touring bikes with abs. Some of the comments say the fluid in the ABS module does not get flushed. Can you comment or possibly do a video on this? Thank you for all your videos as they are very informative.
I have a couple of videos addressing this question. Look under Doc Harley Brake. Thanks ~ Doc
Thank you!
"Harley Davidson says...."
That the noise of something slamming around in my 8500 mile M8 is normal.
That lots of smoke and 500° engine temperature is normal.
Things didn't make sense but Harley Davidson said....
Well, $5,000 of parts and labor on a warrantied bike later(new cylinders, new pistons, new oil pump, new cam, new cam plate, new lifters, new pushrods, ....... everything but the taste in my mouth seems normal. That was a lot of metal shavings. Why is there no screen on the oil pump intake? How are these shaving so big compared to any of the actual damage in the motor. These problems started the day the bike was new. Been a year of being told the slamming noise and excessive heat and smoke were normal. Only I get the feeling they are not. Actually, I was 1000% sure they were not. $5000 later.....
What are you do the clean threads out should I take up socket head caps screwe run it on a cut off wheel so it looks kind of like a tap you groove it on one side and dishing it in negative. Then screw it into the hole and then back it out and clean it. Repeat If necessary.
Please do not “make” a tool on the chance the made tool would destroy threads vs. clean. Save your funds until you can purchase tools made by a reputable company. Thanks ~ Doc
Question: and if it's too thigh ? that also happens frequently
First I would make sure your Torque wrenches are calibrated. (with age some loose accuracy). Second it would depend on the location of the fastener and what it is holding. Thanks ~ Doc
Where we can get a service manual? The dealer does'nt provide it when it was bought
You can order a Service Manual from any dealer...Doc
Doc, the thinking is hd stopped putting these things out (along with parts lists for accessories) bc hd does not wany ppl working on their own bikes. They want us to bring them in and pay for this stuff. Whats your thought on this?
You're thinking to negative about Harley-Davidson. Thanks ~ Doc
I have a 2014 HD Sportster XL. It idles at 1700 rpm, when the HD says 1000 rpm is normal. Took to a motorcycle mechanic, who checked spark plugs, and took apart the air cleaner and checked all he could think. It has an electronic gismo (little square wafer like device, can’t recall the name of it) on the battery side and it checked out without any errors. Still, this device seems the last resort and I wonder if it should be replaced. Any more possibilities?
With fuel injection it is most likely you have an air leak. Replace manifold seals to start with and examine the throttle body as you are doing this. The IAC has a lot to do with idle control. Search on the net on how to clean the pintle. Thanks ~ Doc
It is very kind of you to take time to reply to my question. I thank you.
I've always been confused about when to use " blue " compared to "red " locktight. I know red is for permanent & you said it's in the chart....but could you kinda explain it in a nut shell for a idiot like me? Thanks in advance.
Dave Metz, red thread lock is not permanent. It is however stronger than blue. You just have to follow the manual or learn where to use the compound. Clean threads are key. And a little goes a long way. If you do run into trouble with any thread locking compounds, a little heat on the fastener softens the compound. Stay away from green. It's typically called bearing mount. When I worked for Caterpillar, we used it on bearing cups and pin bushings. Really strong stuff. If I remember correctly, the green takes up about
.005 in. Good luck.
@@PanM8 thank you so much on the locktight
@@davemetz7368 no problem. Just use your best judgment.
Follow the Harley-Davidson Service Manual. It will tell you when and what to use. Thanks ~ Doc
Just torque it till it snaps then back it off a 1/4 turn.
Uh, you broke it dude.
Never used a torque wrench, just go by feel. Never over tightened anything yet.
Why would H D remove that from the Service manual ? Because the new generation does Nothing for themself's !