I love how The Spot doesn't mind ruining Miles's life but as soon as he's accused of being culturally offensive he gets all defensive and apologetic sounding
So Miguel isn’t actually a vampire, it’s just a running joke because of his fangs. He‘s just more Spider-like than the others! Hence why he has fangs and can paralyze people with them
@@Jajuan44 C’mon, man. The guy has talons on his fingers, venomous fangs, and organic webbing. Far more spider-like than Peter. Just because he lacks a spider-sense, doesn’t negate the fact he appears more spider-like.
He may have these things in the comics but it didn't seem like his webs or claws were organic in this movie. They're all generated by his suit. When Miles overloaded his suit he wasn't able to stick to the side of the train/rocket to the moon. He had to grab onto a rail unlike Peter B. and Gwen.
@@Jajuan44 no he is more spider-like than the others. He does have a spider-sense it just doesn't work like how the other's works it's more like how Daredevil's heightened senses work the only reason it didn't work with the Vulture fight is for the gag because it doesn't work like the others
Miles 42 is person who was supposed to be bitten by the 42 spider, not Peter Parker. My theory on this is if you go back to the scene showing the spider being zapped to our miles universe. There is a Peter Parker to the right but to the left is someone with braids very similar to Miles 42s braids. Adding in the fact that spider 42 seem to be actively trying to bite Miles in the 1st film. It needed to bite a Miles Morales, so it found one and did.
Oh my lord I never thought of that... that also explains the color scheme in the scene where Miles is tied up, where we see mostly red and blue/spider-man colors and it also flows into the fan theory of earth-42 Prowler being a hero instead of a villain since everything is sorta flipped! Man I am in love with these movies, cannot wait for the next one!
Additionally, If you go back and watch ITSV when miles meets the first Spider-Man his spider sense goes from green and purple to red and blue, implying that he was originally supposed to be the prowler of that universe and his fate has changed
@@4yinyang given that there's the artbook that describes earth-42 miles and aaron as being vigilantes and an animation test showing the two of them stealing medicine and delivering it to the hospital the mom works at, i'd say it's all but confirmed they're the heroes of their universe.
My favourite scene in this movie is always when gwen goes back to her universe and talks to her dad. Hits me right in the feels and i love the colours of her universe as the emotions change in the scene.
I recall them talking about how the colours of her world are essentially a mood ring so shift to show emotions of the characters all the time. Either way, it's visually stunning. The fact that they made very 'verse have it's own unique style/variation is brilliant.
im not saying if gwen is or isnt trans, but i do think her story was a beautiful allegory for coming out or being trans. as a trans guy myself, i actually cried in the theaters in that scene
@@chriscintron3320 Fun fact: Hailee Steinfeld who voices Gwen is a major advocate of LGBTQIA+ rights and insisted that the animators put that "Save Trans Kids" poster in Gwen`s room because of DeSantis and Trump`s anti-trans shenanigans in Florida and Abbott`s in Texas.
Miguel isn't the villain but the antagonist, his archetype would be "anti-villain" in that he does what could be perceived as "villainous" things for morally just/grand scale/greater good ( -the greater good- ) reasons. You could say he's a bit like Ozymandias from The Watchmen in that aspect, though Ozymandias does far more villainous things.
I don’t know. There are parts of his backstory that don’t add up. I think there is a good Miguel sitting in a laser cage someplace, who will get loose in the third movie and stop this Miguel.
20:54 he isn't actually a vampire that's just how he is described. The reason he has fangs is because his DNA was spliced with a spider's and therefore he has more abilities like a paralytic venom that he can inject via his fangs
Color is so important in this movie, intrinsically tied to the characters and plot. For instance when Miles finally returns "home" even if you missed the terminal saying "Earth-42" you could still tell something was off and that's due to the lighting choices. If you're less "in the moment" and are paying attention to such at that moment you'll notice the green and purple color scheme, even as he's "telling his mom" he's Spider-Man his overcoat has highlights of green and his hoodie looks purple subtly revealing to you _Miles_ is the Prowler here.
I know I’m 2 months late but let’s not forget that his mom’s eyes were also a different color. In his world she has brown eyes just like him, but in that scene her eyes were green!
Yes. 1/2 of his biological code was re-written as spider DNA. There is a very important fact that a lot of people leave out. Miguel wasn’t supposed to be Spider-Man. He was attempting experiments to re-create the ORIGINAL Spider-man’s powers and there was an incident. That is when his DNA was mutated and he became this version of himself. So yes he is half spider. However, he is probably the least percentage “Spider-Man”. He genuinely could be wrong and in this film he is being set up to become either a huge villain or a huge victim. There won’t be an in between with his character.
For me, as of right now it's the greatest animation film of all time. Our family didn't know there was going to be a trilogy and we were wrecked at the end.
@@heathbar06I didn’t watch it in a theater, but my lil bro did, I watched at home. When the ending was approaching he just kept staring at me smiling. Then “to be continued” popped up and crushed me😭😭
8:06 I see a lot of people think that. But when I saw that, I interpreted that as Miguel being impressed with Gwen. He didn't really say it out loud so it didn't come off as petty to me. It was just him whispering it to himself in like a "she's got potential" way. And I believe that him being impressed with Gwen low-key helped her case in being able to join Spider Society. Jess asked him if Gwen could join but he wasn't convinced yet. I kinda think he wouldn't have let her join if they both didn't see her as an asset for the team. There was even that little moment of Gwen looking at Miguel and him nodding in acknowledgement. He let her do her thing and didn't try to forcibly take the lead, because he *did* think she made the best call in that situation. At least that's how I interpreted that.
they hinted at miles being prowler in the first film! When miles first met spiderman in the collider room, you see his colors change from prowler colors to spiderman colors
This is not true at all. The animators have said so and its even said in the movie. He would've never been prowler, he would've been a regular citizen. Miles 42 is a vigilante as shown in various animation test, he would've been spiderman if not for Spot literally stopping the bite before it happened. Dont spread a bad theory, thanks.
@@yesnt8941it’s not really a bad theory lol it’s just a theory that’s been proven to not be the case. Still a cool theory that they swapped places, true or not.
I love so much that when Miles goes to 42, all the colors of his room are purple and green, alluding to the fact that he is The Prowler in this universe. Even the jacket he grabs to cover his suit is green with purple accents.
"And don't even get me started started on Dr Strange and the little nerd back on Earth-199999" - hilarious line! And a perfect name-drop reference to the MCU.
Definitely the best reaction I've seen yet! With Cody starting the first video like that, saying that he's seen GIFs of the guy, it all lined up! I'm so glad I found this channel.
This movie blew my mind. Also I really can't wait to see the interactions between the two Miles. It'll be very exciting to see how they each see the paths that they would've gone down if not for the spider
Gwen's Spidey sense went off in Miles room, she could sense him in danger in another dimeson.. Damn. Prowler Miles had a strong accent which would suggest his daddy died earlier in his life and he was with his mom more..His face was drawn with bolder line as well,I thought they were scars at first. The use of color changing with everyone emotion was awesome. I enjoyed the vid guys.
My favorite new spider was definitely this take on Hobie Brown as Spider Punk (fun fact, in the main universe, Hobie was the original prowler) but my favorite moments were all the Gwen stuff in the beginning and end. Gwen has been my favorite spider person since her comics released, so seeing such a great adaptation of earth 65 really hit the spot.
Lmao i knew it was going to be a part 1 from when it was originally announced. But it was fun hearing loud "what?!" And "nooooo" when the TBC popped up
Y'all saw Jess at the beginning right? She was ready to pop. When we see Gwen, she's been with the group for months. Jess isn't pregnant after that part of the movie. If you're wondering where that baby is now... I'm sure you can make a good guess.
Miles is literally Cannon Changer. -Miles save the Captain of indian spiderman's dimension. -Gwen's dad quit being captain, avoiding his death cannon event. -Peter B got a daughter, where he has no intention of getting a child in the first place. Miles is the original Anomaly, but he effect other spidermans' fate in the positive way so far.
Its like their universe actually " fill the voids " and thus they avoid destruction. Maybe because Miles is an anomaly, he indeed kind of change the original story without repercussion 🤔
45:38 is such a weird comment from Miguel. Doesn't he mean "I've had enough of you" rather than "I've had the *right amount* of you" lmao. This man Miguel actually *enjoys* being around Peter B. despite his protests.
These Spider-Verse movies are on another level. Across the Spider-Verse is slightly better, in my opinion, but both are masterpieces. I give Into the Spider-verse slightly better storytelling, but Across the Spiderverse surpassed Itsv in every other category: the voice acting performances, the animation, editing, score/soundtrack, characters, antagonist, "cinematography", etc. The writing is just as good in both, so that aspect is a tie for me. If Beyond the Spider-Verse can be just as good or somehow even better, this will be by far the best superhero trilogy and one of the best trilogies.
15:28 Never noticed until now you see that spider Spot abducted to "our" Miles universe was about to bite Braided Miles, he was "destined" to be Spider-Man regardless.
So some theories Prowler Miles was actually suppose to be spiderman during the spots explanation they showed the Spider-Man in a classroom on a desk behind a kid with braids. Also Miguel’s whole thing about him not suppose to be spiderman. I think miles is an anomaly but he’s suppose to be because if he wasn’t suppose to be spiderman why is he going through canon evens and why hasn’t the universe collapsed already ? Miguel’s full of it And I think the prowler miles and uncle aaron are actually vigilantes cause there universe has no hero
@@gibbsterV right! That’s why I don’t get why Miguel is like you were never suppose to be spiderman. If he wasn’t suppose to be there it would have collapsed….just like the universe he popped in did because Miguel wasn’t supposed to be there.
@@yesnt8941 it’s just a theory I have because I don’t fully trust the dialogue. We don’t know if that’s for certain and neither does Miguel. Gwen asked him what if your wrong about the cannon and he said I’m not gonna take the chance. But we won’t know more until the next movie
I read somewhere that said ,if miles is an anomaly he is the only one able to stop Canon events without creating anomalies and the world wouldn't wouldn't fall apart because miles is already an anomaly
Haha. Gwen brought up almost all of it in the last one. Origin, death of Peter parker as the lizard, no friends, in a band, is a drummer. Like only thing new is she’s wanted for murder. Miguel is not really a vampire. His bite injects a paralytic venom to subdue villains.
If you rewatch the scene when the Spot explains that he brought the spider that bit Miles from another universe, you can see Prowler Miles in the scene (his braids). That means that Miles WAS supposed to be Spider-man. Just not our Miles.
3:20 "She Didn't Bring None Of That Up In The Last One" 😅 She Says It In Her Opening Monologue, Says She Couldn't Save Her Peter, They Even Show Peter Turning From A Lizard Back To Peter And She Runs Over There To See Him 😂
I don't know what they've done with the color in this one but color has never ever looked this good on my screen. Combining the clarity with the amazingly crazy use of color in this movie it was one of the best visual experiences I've ever had.
21:23 They actually explained it in a comic book right after Sam Raimi's Spiderman movie, because that movie showed that Peter Parker's skin grew little grabby things. The actual thing that the mutation does is allow for Spider-People to have a molecular bond to any surface, that can be used by any part of the body, hence why they can sit upside down without worry, as they are literally "glued" to the surface of the stone.
13:46 Bro is an ART major at heart, but he’s interested in moving electrons across dimensions because Homie got that multiversal thirst. And she does too!!😂
Late but I love that your powers of prophecy to predict random things crosses all genres and works for movies as easily as TV shows. It's so impressive
That miles who became the prowler is the one who should be a real spiderman.....and miles who we know spiderman is the one who should be the prowler....in every multiverse is only have one spiderman and in miles he have peter as spiderman who died saving him....but in miles universe 42 who became prowler,that universe never have spiderman and he is the one who get destiny to became spiderman,but that spider out from his universe because that kingpin collider in the first film.....so i think i can understand why miguel is really angry to miles
In the first movie, when miles meets Spider-Man before he dies, Miles's spider-sense background colors are prowler colors at first, but then shift to blue and red. The universe shifting to make him spider-man.
It’s dumb to be angry at miles, Miguel’s anger is misplaced he didn’t ask the spider to bite him. He just existed and tried to do the best with the abilities given to him. They all knew and phased him out instead of involving him and helping him. It’s incredibly fucked up. Not to mention Miguel’s theory is just that - a theory- Gwen’s dad quitting shows cannon isn’t sacred and there’s a way to work around it. Miguel is just too caught up to see any other option
Not to mention Miguel’s theory is that disrupting cannon events should destroy a whole universe but despite a change in miles 42 potential story , that earth still exists, it’s heavily crime ridden but it didn’t collapse into itself like Miguel’s universe despite what should be an important change in cannon
I know....but i think miguel doesnt want to take a risk,to see another option because he have been facing and feel how losing some multiverse @@eliwrites1236
I think thats not shifting,thats change the canon and make miles become anomaly....the miles in universe 42 change become prowler because him who should be come spiderman,because in his universe doesnt have spiderman and he was suppose to became the only spiderman in that universe, and everything got ruined because that kingpin collider in the first movie@@galacticfork
Donald Glover cameoed in Spider-Man Homecoming, which is a Sony Picture. Iron Man was loaned out to Sony in cooperation. That’s why they could use Donald.
So many people forgot or didn't know this was part 1 of a 2 part movie 😂 Beyond the Spider Verse was *supposed* to come out May 2024 but has been delayed because of the writers strike
Pretty sure its not even finished yet lol. It would've been delayed either way. 2024 is an impossible release date unless the animators worked till they're dead. It won't come out in atleast 3-4years +
The spider who bit miles was from earth 42 and the venom from the spider gave the powers (changed the dna) the machine that sent him "home" checks the subjects dna and sents them to the earth where the dna originally came from so that means half of his dna is spider
I think I saw a comment that talked about Spider-Man 2099, it's not that he's a vampire, it's just that genetically he shares more arachnid characteristics, the fangs are chelicerae
In Spot's flashback you actually see the spider making it's way towards Earth 42 Miles. Also there is a hint in the first movie that Miles would become his dimension Prowler when he meets Spider-man (RIP). When they "spider sense" each other, Miles's starts off green and purple (Prowler's colors) and Peter's are red and blue (Spiderman's colors) and then Miles's changes to red and blue. It does make sense, with his relationships to his uncle and father, not to mention trying to get kicked out of Vision Academy.
He wouldnt have became prowler. This was a dumb tiktok theory so stupid the animators shut it down. He would've been a regular citizen. End of conversation.
I literally was sitting in the theater and the ending and thought “wait this seems like it’s ending but it can’t be right!” And then it ended. Also the collective what the fuck in the theater was crazy at the end
This movie is the perfect example of villian vs anti-hero. Spot is a villain. He feels wronged by spider-man, and so he is out to destroy spider-man's life. Miguel in an anti-hero. His motive is to SAVE the most number of people, but he is sacrificing/allowing the other die in the process. Motivation determines villain vs anti-hero, not actions.
Just because Miles is the Prowler in 42 doesn't mean he's a bad guy. I strongly believe they're setting us up for a twist there. If you look around at his universe and listen to the background, you'll notice that the Sinister 6 has taken over. He and his uncle might be resistance fighters.
How this story is progressing reminds me of those dead pool comics where its dead pool kills Marvel universe and dead pool kills dead pool and another one but that one it starts small gets bigger then bigger and bigger and bigger so !any deapools so many fighting each other lol that story got crazy like this one lol they had a trex dead pool and animal dead pools like they did with Spider-Man lpl
In Spider-Man 2 (ps5), aaron davis tells Miles he wouldve been an excellent Prowler And i think both the Ps4 and Ps5 spideys were here. The advanced suit differs between. I think sm2 spidey is when "another video game guy" was introduced and then ps4 spidey shows up when they all do the pointing meme. But i could be wrong and they could be the same one Edit: no. Im right. The "another video game guy" is Pete from spider man 2 and then the one that shows up doing the pointing meme is ps4 pete. Suits are different (advanced vs advanced 2.0) Extra fun fact: in Spider-Man 2, there are spider bots you collect. When you get them all, they are taken by someone and they mention Miguel. Peter doesnt know who miguel is meaning that Spider-Man 2 on ps5 takes place before pete gets caught up in this spider society
3:20 sir, that's part of her 'let's do this one last time' bit LMAO she talks that she couldn't save her best friend, peter parker, and it shows that he's the lizard (the scene was a bit different ofc, and the Peter looked like the 40 year old one, but alas)
Yeah why wasn't his uncle his canon event he wss on ground kneeling over him just like all those other spider men lol he even did with the Spider-Man before him lol how many times he got tab do this lol
Okay before anyone in the comments misguide you in half informed theorys: 1.Miles 1610 would've been a regular human without the bite, not the prowler, just a person. Peter would still be alive as well as Aaron, there would be no reason for him to be the prowler. 2. Miles 42's name is Miles G. Morales as shown in animation test, its also shown that him and Aaron are vigilantes, not straight up villains. He would've been spiderman had The Spot not taken the spider right before he was bit.
Why was uncle Ben A canon event in the Toby Maguire one they showed that bit in the Andrew Garfield he lost his uncle Ben but that wasn't hid canon event it was Captain Stacy lol so weird lol
@BRIDGECO, 37:35 Sadly, no. All of these Spider-People (Miles too) are variants of Peter Parker. Spot doomed the original Peter Parker when he sent Spider 42 to Miles' universe, as only one variant can exist in any given space at one time--Peter died so that Miles could rise ='( Anyway, Spider-Man is a hero who has bad thing, after bad thing happen to him again and again, and somehow he never loses his humanity. He always gets back up and tries again. Spider-Man always loses a parent or parent figure. Spider-Man always loses his first love. Spider-Man always has his one true love, Mary Jane. Spider-Man always has a close friend that turns on him. Spider-Man always has a police captain that he's close to die as well. Uncle Aaron wasn't just an uncle to Miles. He was a parent to him too. That said, in the comics, Uncle Aaron isn't dead, but Miles' father is. This franchise changed that, and now they're making everyone wonder if they're making a course correction or doing their own thing, which is what it looked like they were doing when they started this journey. Miles doesn't have a girlfriend, but his first love interest is Gwen, and he lost her in the first story--she went back home. Did you catch the name of Gwen's band? They're called the Mary Janes! Gwen IS Miles' Mary Jane, so she is safe and they're destined to fall for each other =) In Gwen's story, we saw Ned being a jerk to Peter, and he looked pretty similar to the Ned we see in the MCU. Need Leeds, in the comics, is the Hobgoblin! The MCU changed things around and made Ned Peter's friend, sort of like Miles' roommate Genke Lee. Will something happen to Genke? Miles' father is going to be captain, but this story starts off with him saying that he does what he does because he wants to make his son proud, which sort of suggests that he'd give up that job if push came to shove...sort of like Gwen's dad. Miles is only an anomaly because he was bitten by a spider, not from his universe, but as the ending will show, Miles has a variant in another universe. Spider-Man doesn't choose his Spider! The spider is the one that does the choosing! The Spider bit Miles because it was supposed to bite Miles! It just bit the wrong one; Miles was always destined to be a Spider-Man. This movie, this franchise really, does such a great job telling the Spider-Man story. I don't want it to end, but it will when the next movie drops. I wish Sony could find a team like this one to do all their other Spider-Man spin-offs because all the other ones don't come close to this level of storytelling. This series gets a 10 out of 10 from me. EDIT 48:54 I think this is the same thing we see in the Loki commercial, which is called time-slipping in the MCU. We saw it in the first movie, sure, but it predominately happened to all the Spider-People not from Miles' universe--only one variant per universe. In the Multiverse of Madness Reed Richards explained to Doctor Strange that if one leaves a large enough footprint in a universe, an incursion will occur. All of these Spider-People existing in the same space can't be good--they are all the same person...making their footprint bigger than it should be. I think those glitches we're seeing are small incursions. Did you take a look a Spots' powers? The black residue his powers give off looks very similar to the black residue we see in Multiverse of Madness and What If? Just after an incursion occurs. All of the Spider-People cease being the person they were before their bite; they become a mutate, a combination of their spider and the person they were, as their DNA is overwritten and transformed. Miles' glitching in Universe 42 seems like it shouldn't be a thing to me or at least not to the same degree, as part of him is also from this universe--yes, I know his spider glitched in his universe, but that spider never had Miles.
If pay close attention to the color of Hobie's shoelaces, you'll find out that they're blue. Punks (or anyone of counterculture) will wear blue shoelaces when they have killed a police officer. (Or gotten one killed). Maybe Hobie's Traumatic Event (what Miguel refers to as "Canon Events", I call Traumatic Events because of all of the trauma that goes on. If you like it, share it.) Was the fact the fact he potentially got Captain Anarchy killed. (I'm theorising that he potentially his friend killed, of course. Why else would he wear those blue shoelaces?) Next practical essay I wanna make you read is; Miguel O'Hara (Spider-Man 2099) is WRONG. We DO NOT know what IS causing the universes to unravel (anime reference), but when an antagonist (like Miguel) expresses an idea ( like how the multiverse works), that's the story saying that THAT idea is wrong. So Gwen's dad quitting does not mean George Stacy "doesn't have to die," it's SHOWING us that Miguel is wrong about the Canon. After all, *if* he was right, things should've started glitching and falling apart as he quit, right? We'll find out what's really going on in Beyond the Spider-verse, but the point this movie is making is that there IS NO Canon, there IS NO "supposed to" and there IS NO single story of Spider-Man. Anyone can be Spider-Man and any story can be Spider-Man's story.
All the other gwebs that fall for Spider-Man how many of them are Spider-Man themselves probably none lol. I was thinking that in amazing Spider-Man two if Gwen had powers in that she probably wouldn't have died or maybe she would have but not in same way but it'd be unlikely lol
So, a few things. One, I don't think Earth 42 Miles is a villain. When The Spot is talking about abducting the spider that bit Miles, you see it approaching someone who looks an AWFUL lot like Earth 42 Miles. Also, the news report is talking about the Sinister Six Cartel, implying that the bad guys are ascendant in this world, so even as The Prowler, he could be working to undercut them. Two, Hobie is my favorite in this movie. As much as I love that Dopender from Deadpool finally got to be a pretty cool superhero, Hobie is the best. He is a very deep character who does everything he can to trick you into thinking that he is unbelievably shallow. But, at the end of the day, all of his little snide comments about the society, and warning Miles to be careful about them, and his advice about using the full hand, rather than just the fingers... all the way down to all of those little bits of tech he was stealing in plain sight and the way that he was building grass-roots bonds with the less integrated members of the society show that he was playing a very clever game all along, working to undercut Miguel's authoritarian Spider Society, and lay the groundwork for Gwen to "start up her new band." Schnee did a very good video going over all of it, and how you... kind of keep thinking that you've got him figured out, only for it to be undercut by the real Hobie underneath. Also pretty cool, he's voiced by the same actor who played Wakabi in Black Panther. Glad to see him in this role!
I love how The Spot doesn't mind ruining Miles's life but as soon as he's accused of being culturally offensive he gets all defensive and apologetic sounding
The Spot: "I'm a villain, not a monster"
This caught me off guard lmaoo but honestly it explains The Spot's entire character@@guilhemgalceranrial4085
So Miguel isn’t actually a vampire, it’s just a running joke because of his fangs. He‘s just more Spider-like than the others! Hence why he has fangs and can paralyze people with them
He's actually less spider-like than the others. He doesn't even have the spider-sense which is a staple Spider-Man power.
@@Jajuan44He might not have a spider sense but he has natural webs unlike others he's technically 50% spider
@@Jajuan44 C’mon, man. The guy has talons on his fingers, venomous fangs, and organic webbing. Far more spider-like than Peter. Just because he lacks a spider-sense, doesn’t negate the fact he appears more spider-like.
He may have these things in the comics but it didn't seem like his webs or claws were organic in this movie.
They're all generated by his suit. When Miles overloaded his suit he wasn't able to stick to the side of the train/rocket to the moon. He had to grab onto a rail unlike Peter B. and Gwen.
@@Jajuan44 no he is more spider-like than the others. He does have a spider-sense it just doesn't work like how the other's works it's more like how Daredevil's heightened senses work the only reason it didn't work with the Vulture fight is for the gag because it doesn't work like the others
Miles 42 is person who was supposed to be bitten by the 42 spider, not Peter Parker. My theory on this is if you go back to the scene showing the spider being zapped to our miles universe. There is a Peter Parker to the right but to the left is someone with braids very similar to Miles 42s braids. Adding in the fact that spider 42 seem to be actively trying to bite Miles in the 1st film. It needed to bite a Miles Morales, so it found one and did.
Oh my lord I never thought of that... that also explains the color scheme in the scene where Miles is tied up, where we see mostly red and blue/spider-man colors and it also flows into the fan theory of earth-42 Prowler being a hero instead of a villain since everything is sorta flipped! Man I am in love with these movies, cannot wait for the next one!
Additionally, If you go back and watch ITSV when miles meets the first Spider-Man his spider sense goes from green and purple to red and blue, implying that he was originally supposed to be the prowler of that universe and his fate has changed
@@SchellShocker79no he wasn’t! Uncle Aaron didn’t/wouldn’t want that for Miles.
@@4yinyang given that there's the artbook that describes earth-42 miles and aaron as being vigilantes and an animation test showing the two of them stealing medicine and delivering it to the hospital the mom works at, i'd say it's all but confirmed they're the heroes of their universe.
You mean our Miles not Peter. Earth 42 Miles was suppose to be bit by the spider that bit our miles
My favourite scene in this movie is always when gwen goes back to her universe and talks to her dad. Hits me right in the feels and i love the colours of her universe as the emotions change in the scene.
The water coloring in her world is super underrated
I recall them talking about how the colours of her world are essentially a mood ring so shift to show emotions of the characters all the time. Either way, it's visually stunning. The fact that they made very 'verse have it's own unique style/variation is brilliant.
im not saying if gwen is or isnt trans, but i do think her story was a beautiful allegory for coming out or being trans. as a trans guy myself, i actually cried in the theaters in that scene
@@chriscintron3320 Fun fact: Hailee Steinfeld who voices Gwen is a major advocate of LGBTQIA+ rights and insisted that the animators put that "Save Trans Kids" poster in Gwen`s room because of DeSantis and Trump`s anti-trans shenanigans in Florida and Abbott`s in Texas.
@@1993MovieMan oh thats really awesome
Miguel isn't the villain but the antagonist, his archetype would be "anti-villain" in that he does what could be perceived as "villainous" things for morally just/grand scale/greater good ( -the greater good- ) reasons. You could say he's a bit like Ozymandias from The Watchmen in that aspect, though Ozymandias does far more villainous things.
"The Greater Good."
Shut it!
I don’t know. There are parts of his backstory that don’t add up.
I think there is a good Miguel sitting in a laser cage someplace, who will get loose in the third movie and stop this Miguel.
20:54 he isn't actually a vampire that's just how he is described. The reason he has fangs is because his DNA was spliced with a spider's and therefore he has more abilities like a paralytic venom that he can inject via his fangs
Color is so important in this movie, intrinsically tied to the characters and plot. For instance when Miles finally returns "home" even if you missed the terminal saying "Earth-42" you could still tell something was off and that's due to the lighting choices. If you're less "in the moment" and are paying attention to such at that moment you'll notice the green and purple color scheme, even as he's "telling his mom" he's Spider-Man his overcoat has highlights of green and his hoodie looks purple subtly revealing to you _Miles_ is the Prowler here.
I know I’m 2 months late but let’s not forget that his mom’s eyes were also a different color. In his world she has brown eyes just like him, but in that scene her eyes were green!
I love that this film wouldn't even be possible without Donald Glover, since Miles is based on him.
I love this react! Thanks, guys.
Miguel isn’t a vampire, he’s more spider-like than most of them. He’s biologically 50% spider.
Yes. 1/2 of his biological code was re-written as spider DNA.
There is a very important fact that a lot of people leave out. Miguel wasn’t supposed to be Spider-Man. He was attempting experiments to re-create the ORIGINAL Spider-man’s powers and there was an incident. That is when his DNA was mutated and he became this version of himself.
So yes he is half spider. However, he is probably the least percentage “Spider-Man”. He genuinely could be wrong and in this film he is being set up to become either a huge villain or a huge victim. There won’t be an in between with his character.
For me, as of right now it's the greatest animation film of all time. Our family didn't know there was going to be a trilogy and we were wrecked at the end.
There were gasps and yells in my theater once the "to be continued" came up
We will see Miles next story in Spider-Man Beyond the spider-verse
@@heathbar06I didn’t watch it in a theater, but my lil bro did, I watched at home. When the ending was approaching he just kept staring at me smiling. Then “to be continued” popped up and crushed me😭😭
8:06 I see a lot of people think that. But when I saw that, I interpreted that as Miguel being impressed with Gwen. He didn't really say it out loud so it didn't come off as petty to me. It was just him whispering it to himself in like a "she's got potential" way. And I believe that him being impressed with Gwen low-key helped her case in being able to join Spider Society. Jess asked him if Gwen could join but he wasn't convinced yet. I kinda think he wouldn't have let her join if they both didn't see her as an asset for the team.
There was even that little moment of Gwen looking at Miguel and him nodding in acknowledgement. He let her do her thing and didn't try to forcibly take the lead, because he *did* think she made the best call in that situation.
At least that's how I interpreted that.
they hinted at miles being prowler in the first film! When miles first met spiderman in the collider room, you see his colors change from prowler colors to spiderman colors
This is not true at all. The animators have said so and its even said in the movie. He would've never been prowler, he would've been a regular citizen. Miles 42 is a vigilante as shown in various animation test, he would've been spiderman if not for Spot literally stopping the bite before it happened. Dont spread a bad theory, thanks.
@@yesnt8941it’s not really a bad theory lol it’s just a theory that’s been proven to not be the case. Still a cool theory that they swapped places, true or not.
I love so much that when Miles goes to 42, all the colors of his room are purple and green, alluding to the fact that he is The Prowler in this universe. Even the jacket he grabs to cover his suit is green with purple accents.
"And don't even get me started started on Dr Strange and the little nerd back on Earth-199999" - hilarious line! And a perfect name-drop reference to the MCU.
15:35 Cody's BAGEL realization might have altered our universe
Definitely the best reaction I've seen yet! With Cody starting the first video like that, saying that he's seen GIFs of the guy, it all lined up! I'm so glad I found this channel.
This movie blew my mind. Also I really can't wait to see the interactions between the two Miles. It'll be very exciting to see how they each see the paths that they would've gone down if not for the spider
bagel scene is the best connecting point the movie could have made lol truly a villain's origin story.
I love that its such a comic - book type reference for an origin story 😂
it is but I feel like some people are so fixated on it that they forget he actually has a motive
Some known Earth Numbers:
616 - The Main Marvel Comics Universe
1610 - Ulitmate Marvel Universe
199999 - Marvel Cinematic Universe
65 - Spider-Gwen's Earth
miguel saying miles isn’t supposed to be spider-man when he (miguel) literally gave himself spider powers is hilarious
actually he never gave himself spider powers. His co-workers tried to kill him by splicing his DNA with spider DNA but instead it gave him powers
But Miguel became a Spider-Man without any outside universe intervention
@@theclairewhystill he didn’t ask to be Spider-Man and neither did miles
@@staywoke2467 most Spider-Men don't ask to be. they just get bit
@@theclairewhy exactly miles just got bit
Can we just appreciate that Jack Quaid is playing Peter Parker and Clark Kent in the same year?
And a scientist in Oppenheimer
@@geraldthegoose1685bro just called Richard Feynman “a scientist”
@@gabrielherman8930never heard of him
Gwen's Spidey sense went off in Miles room, she could sense him in danger in another dimeson.. Damn. Prowler Miles had a strong accent which would suggest his daddy died earlier in his life and he was with his mom more..His face was drawn with bolder line as well,I thought they were scars at first. The use of color changing with everyone emotion was awesome. I enjoyed the vid guys.
Bridget is too smart... She spoiled the last twist...
Fun fact: the spider is from Earth 42 because Jackie Robinson wore #42 for the Dodgers.
My favorite new spider was definitely this take on Hobie Brown as Spider Punk (fun fact, in the main universe, Hobie was the original prowler)
but my favorite moments were all the Gwen stuff in the beginning and end. Gwen has been my favorite spider person since her comics released, so seeing such a great adaptation of earth 65 really hit the spot.
This Hobie is from 138B which is why he’s British, since on 138 he’s American.
Lmao i knew it was going to be a part 1 from when it was originally announced. But it was fun hearing loud "what?!" And "nooooo" when the TBC popped up
Fun fact: The animation for Hobie took like 2 years just for him to figure out how to get his animation style JUUUST right!
Wow that is amazing. Paid off!
Y'all saw Jess at the beginning right? She was ready to pop. When we see Gwen, she's been with the group for months.
Jess isn't pregnant after that part of the movie. If you're wondering where that baby is now...
I'm sure you can make a good guess.
Then why is she still pregnant? Did she go at it again right after the first one?💀
If your suggesting the baby died there's nothing suggesting that at all she's clearly still pregnant hense why she still uses the bike to move around.
Miles is literally Cannon Changer.
-Miles save the Captain of indian spiderman's dimension.
-Gwen's dad quit being captain, avoiding his death cannon event.
-Peter B got a daughter, where he has no intention of getting a child in the first place.
Miles is the original Anomaly, but he effect other spidermans' fate in the positive way so far.
Its like their universe actually " fill the voids " and thus they avoid destruction. Maybe because Miles is an anomaly, he indeed kind of change the original story without repercussion 🤔
i laughed so hard when gwen said "can you stop being a cop for a second!?" and you said "thats a negative" xD bruh had me dying
45:38 is such a weird comment from Miguel. Doesn't he mean "I've had enough of you" rather than "I've had the *right amount* of you" lmao. This man Miguel actually *enjoys* being around Peter B. despite his protests.
❤Bridget is so smart spotting the 42 on the console.❤ Her reaction at the what it's over😊
These Spider-Verse movies are on another level. Across the Spider-Verse is slightly better, in my opinion, but both are masterpieces. I give Into the Spider-verse slightly better storytelling, but Across the Spiderverse surpassed Itsv in every other category: the voice acting performances, the animation, editing, score/soundtrack, characters, antagonist, "cinematography", etc. The writing is just as good in both, so that aspect is a tie for me. If Beyond the Spider-Verse can be just as good or somehow even better, this will be by far the best superhero trilogy and one of the best trilogies.
Agree with everything
That was a great reaction You guys are the best ❤😎
15:28 Never noticed until now you see that spider Spot abducted to "our" Miles universe was about to bite Braided Miles, he was "destined" to be Spider-Man regardless.
Miguel is so Badass. I hope we explore his origin in the next movie.
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That bagel really hit the spot
This movie made 2.5 hours feel like 40min
So some theories Prowler Miles was actually suppose to be spiderman during the spots explanation they showed the Spider-Man in a classroom on a desk behind a kid with braids.
Also Miguel’s whole thing about him not suppose to be spiderman. I think miles is an anomaly but he’s suppose to be because if he wasn’t suppose to be spiderman why is he going through canon evens and why hasn’t the universe collapsed already ?
Miguel’s full of it
And I think the prowler miles and uncle aaron are actually vigilantes cause there universe has no hero
the universe hasn't collapsed because the canon events have happened for Miles
@@gibbsterV right! That’s why I don’t get why Miguel is like you were never suppose to be spiderman. If he wasn’t suppose to be there it would have collapsed….just like the universe he popped in did because Miguel wasn’t supposed to be there.
@@hopet70901610 wasnt, 42 was. Peter died because the wrong miles got bit, its in the dialogue 🤦🏾♀️
@@yesnt8941 it’s just a theory I have because I don’t fully trust the dialogue. We don’t know if that’s for certain and neither does Miguel. Gwen asked him what if your wrong about the cannon and he said I’m not gonna take the chance. But we won’t know more until the next movie
best animated film ever!!
I read somewhere that said ,if miles is an anomaly he is the only one able to stop Canon events without creating anomalies and the world wouldn't wouldn't fall apart because miles is already an anomaly
The Lego parts were actually animated by a kid that sent in his remake of the trailer that came out and they brought him on to do that scene.
Haha. Gwen brought up almost all of it in the last one. Origin, death of Peter parker as the lizard, no friends, in a band, is a drummer. Like only thing new is she’s wanted for murder.
Miguel is not really a vampire. His bite injects a paralytic venom to subdue villains.
If you rewatch the scene when the Spot explains that he brought the spider that bit Miles from another universe, you can see Prowler Miles in the scene (his braids). That means that Miles WAS supposed to be Spider-man. Just not our Miles.
3:20 "She Didn't Bring None Of That Up In The Last One" 😅
She Says It In Her Opening Monologue, Says She Couldn't Save Her Peter, They Even Show Peter Turning From A Lizard Back To Peter And She Runs Over There To See Him 😂
I don't know what they've done with the color in this one but color has never ever looked this good on my screen. Combining the clarity with the amazingly crazy use of color in this movie it was one of the best visual experiences I've ever had.
"This movie's about to end, Bridget." "What?!" That was so funny.
The “that’s a negative” KILLED me lol
21:23 They actually explained it in a comic book right after Sam Raimi's Spiderman movie, because that movie showed that Peter Parker's skin grew little grabby things. The actual thing that the mutation does is allow for Spider-People to have a molecular bond to any surface, that can be used by any part of the body, hence why they can sit upside down without worry, as they are literally "glued" to the surface of the stone.
6:12 and don't get me started on Doctor Strange and the little nerd back on Earth 19-9999
YES! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS REACTION
YESSSS!!!!
13:46 Bro is an ART major at heart, but he’s interested in moving electrons across dimensions because Homie got that multiversal thirst. And she does too!!😂
Or he was prowler because the spider went to another dimension
Late but I love that your powers of prophecy to predict random things crosses all genres and works for movies as easily as TV shows. It's so impressive
“As a father of a daughter and a son of a mother…” bro I didn’t know where Peter b was going with this but Ik he was about to drop some facts😂
That edit at 8:59 caught me so off guard lmao
Bridgette's pornstache 😭😭😭
That miles who became the prowler is the one who should be a real spiderman.....and miles who we know spiderman is the one who should be the prowler....in every multiverse is only have one spiderman and in miles he have peter as spiderman who died saving him....but in miles universe 42 who became prowler,that universe never have spiderman and he is the one who get destiny to became spiderman,but that spider out from his universe because that kingpin collider in the first film.....so i think i can understand why miguel is really angry to miles
In the first movie, when miles meets Spider-Man before he dies, Miles's spider-sense background colors are prowler colors at first, but then shift to blue and red. The universe shifting to make him spider-man.
It’s dumb to be angry at miles, Miguel’s anger is misplaced he didn’t ask the spider to bite him. He just existed and tried to do the best with the abilities given to him. They all knew and phased him out instead of involving him and helping him. It’s incredibly fucked up. Not to mention Miguel’s theory is just that - a theory- Gwen’s dad quitting shows cannon isn’t sacred and there’s a way to work around it. Miguel is just too caught up to see any other option
Not to mention Miguel’s theory is that disrupting cannon events should destroy a whole universe but despite a change in miles 42 potential story , that earth still exists, it’s heavily crime ridden but it didn’t collapse into itself like Miguel’s universe despite what should be an important change in cannon
I know....but i think miguel doesnt want to take a risk,to see another option because he have been facing and feel how losing some multiverse @@eliwrites1236
I think thats not shifting,thats change the canon and make miles become anomaly....the miles in universe 42 change become prowler because him who should be come spiderman,because in his universe doesnt have spiderman and he was suppose to became the only spiderman in that universe, and everything got ruined because that kingpin collider in the first movie@@galacticfork
I believe that they don't use hair to stick on wall as Tobby, only the electromagnetic field, that can be expanded to clothes
He isn’t a vampire, per se. Half of his dna was replaced with that of a spider, hence his sharp fangs.
Gwen's Peter being the lizard was totally in the first movie.
It's a bit inconsistent though, because the peter in her flashback looked more buff like the other peters.
It's a bit inconsistent though, because the peter in her flashback looked more buff like the other peters.
@@dragonhunterx5929 it doesn't change the fact that it *was* her Peter, tho
Cody’s reaction to bagel guy is my favorite part of this reaction😂
Donald Glover cameoed in Spider-Man Homecoming, which is a Sony Picture. Iron Man was loaned out to Sony in cooperation. That’s why they could use Donald.
I just had a thought. Is Peters robe pink b/c it got thrown in the wash along with his spider suit? 🤔
Maybe
So many people forgot or didn't know this was part 1 of a 2 part movie 😂 Beyond the Spider Verse was *supposed* to come out May 2024 but has been delayed because of the writers strike
Pretty sure its not even finished yet lol. It would've been delayed either way. 2024 is an impossible release date unless the animators worked till they're dead. It won't come out in atleast 3-4years +
So impressive that Bridget caught that! I don't think I've ever seen anyone catch on right away
33:01- Childish Gambino!!!!
The spider who bit miles was from earth 42 and the venom from the spider gave the powers (changed the dna) the machine that sent him "home" checks the subjects dna and sents them to the earth where the dna originally came from so that means half of his dna is spider
"Giddy... UP!" 🐎 🕸️
“He could just say thank you for saving my life” HE REALLY COULDA, COULDNT HE
I think I saw a comment that talked about Spider-Man 2099, it's not that he's a vampire, it's just that genetically he shares more arachnid characteristics, the fangs are chelicerae
In Spot's flashback you actually see the spider making it's way towards Earth 42 Miles.
Also there is a hint in the first movie that Miles would become his dimension Prowler when he meets Spider-man (RIP). When they "spider sense" each other, Miles's starts off green and purple (Prowler's colors) and Peter's are red and blue (Spiderman's colors) and then Miles's changes to red and blue. It does make sense, with his relationships to his uncle and father, not to mention trying to get kicked out of Vision Academy.
He wouldnt have became prowler. This was a dumb tiktok theory so stupid the animators shut it down. He would've been a regular citizen. End of conversation.
Literally just noticed Gwen changed from ballet slippers to Jordans like Miles
I literally was sitting in the theater and the ending and thought “wait this seems like it’s ending but it can’t be right!” And then it ended. Also the collective what the fuck in the theater was crazy at the end
the first trailer literally said the movie was part 1, and everybody, including myself, forgot 🤣
@@ISavant not everybody. I was expecting a cliffhanger
When Spot is explaining how the spider from another universe came you can see it was about to bite Miles from Earth 42
I love how their idea was to push Inspector Singh if front of a bus
This movie is the perfect example of villian vs anti-hero. Spot is a villain. He feels wronged by spider-man, and so he is out to destroy spider-man's life. Miguel in an anti-hero. His motive is to SAVE the most number of people, but he is sacrificing/allowing the other die in the process. Motivation determines villain vs anti-hero, not actions.
Amazing reaction to an instant classic of a film! Subscribed. 👍🏽
No more than one spider-man per universe, that’s why Peter Parker died, cause Miles became Spider-man. Can’t be two Spider-man in the same universe.
Bro, I love y’alls guys reactions lol. Glad I found this channel
This upload is exactly what I needed to help get me through the stair master at 6am. 💯
"This movie's about to end, Bridget."
"... WHAT?" 😂
Just because Miles is the Prowler in 42 doesn't mean he's a bad guy. I strongly believe they're setting us up for a twist there. If you look around at his universe and listen to the background, you'll notice that the Sinister 6 has taken over. He and his uncle might be resistance fighters.
loved it, keep up the great work guys. Best recations...
How this story is progressing reminds me of those dead pool comics where its dead pool kills Marvel universe and dead pool kills dead pool and another one but that one it starts small gets bigger then bigger and bigger and bigger so !any deapools so many fighting each other lol that story got crazy like this one lol they had a trex dead pool and animal dead pools like they did with Spider-Man lpl
In Spider-Man 2 (ps5), aaron davis tells Miles he wouldve been an excellent Prowler
And i think both the Ps4 and Ps5 spideys were here. The advanced suit differs between. I think sm2 spidey is when "another video game guy" was introduced and then ps4 spidey shows up when they all do the pointing meme. But i could be wrong and they could be the same one
Edit: no. Im right. The "another video game guy" is Pete from spider man 2 and then the one that shows up doing the pointing meme is ps4 pete. Suits are different (advanced vs advanced 2.0)
Extra fun fact: in Spider-Man 2, there are spider bots you collect. When you get them all, they are taken by someone and they mention Miguel. Peter doesnt know who miguel is meaning that Spider-Man 2 on ps5 takes place before pete gets caught up in this spider society
Johnathon Ohm AKA The Spot is a favorite supervillain of mine EVER!!!!
Best thing i have ever heard and it applies directly to the spot one bad day is all it takes to make a joker
3:20 sir, that's part of her 'let's do this one last time' bit LMAO
she talks that she couldn't save her best friend, peter parker, and it shows that he's the lizard (the scene was a bit different ofc, and the Peter looked like the 40 year old one, but alas)
Everyone gets surprised that it ends like that lmao. Kt goes by so quick
For anyone who doesn't know: Earth-19999 (with Dr Strange and "the little nerd") is the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
The funny thing is it looks like Miles has a thing for hanging up spider-man on a punching bag in chains.
Yeah why wasn't his uncle his canon event he wss on ground kneeling over him just like all those other spider men lol he even did with the Spider-Man before him lol how many times he got tab do this lol
I work in retail and had customers talking about Johnson's baby powder. I will look into it.
The cop edit killed me 😂 that’s a negative 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂
Okay before anyone in the comments misguide you in half informed theorys:
1.Miles 1610 would've been a regular human without the bite, not the prowler, just a person. Peter would still be alive as well as Aaron, there would be no reason for him to be the prowler.
2. Miles 42's name is Miles G. Morales as shown in animation test, its also shown that him and Aaron are vigilantes, not straight up villains. He would've been spiderman had The Spot not taken the spider right before he was bit.
Why was uncle Ben A canon event in the Toby Maguire one they showed that bit in the Andrew Garfield he lost his uncle Ben but that wasn't hid canon event it was Captain Stacy lol so weird lol
Cool movie!
@BRIDGECO,
37:35 Sadly, no. All of these Spider-People (Miles too) are variants of Peter Parker. Spot doomed the original Peter Parker when he sent Spider 42 to Miles' universe, as only one variant can exist in any given space at one time--Peter died so that Miles could rise ='(
Anyway, Spider-Man is a hero who has bad thing, after bad thing happen to him again and again, and somehow he never loses his humanity. He always gets back up and tries again.
Spider-Man always loses a parent or parent figure. Spider-Man always loses his first love. Spider-Man always has his one true love, Mary Jane. Spider-Man always has a close friend that turns on him. Spider-Man always has a police captain that he's close to die as well.
Uncle Aaron wasn't just an uncle to Miles. He was a parent to him too. That said, in the comics, Uncle Aaron isn't dead, but Miles' father is. This franchise changed that, and now they're making everyone wonder if they're making a course correction or doing their own thing, which is what it looked like they were doing when they started this journey.
Miles doesn't have a girlfriend, but his first love interest is Gwen, and he lost her in the first story--she went back home. Did you catch the name of Gwen's band? They're called the Mary Janes! Gwen IS Miles' Mary Jane, so she is safe and they're destined to fall for each other =)
In Gwen's story, we saw Ned being a jerk to Peter, and he looked pretty similar to the Ned we see in the MCU. Need Leeds, in the comics, is the Hobgoblin! The MCU changed things around and made Ned Peter's friend, sort of like Miles' roommate Genke Lee. Will something happen to Genke? Miles' father is going to be captain, but this story starts off with him saying that he does what he does because he wants to make his son proud, which sort of suggests that he'd give up that job if push came to shove...sort of like Gwen's dad.
Miles is only an anomaly because he was bitten by a spider, not from his universe, but as the ending will show, Miles has a variant in another universe. Spider-Man doesn't choose his Spider! The spider is the one that does the choosing! The Spider bit Miles because it was supposed to bite Miles! It just bit the wrong one; Miles was always destined to be a Spider-Man.
This movie, this franchise really, does such a great job telling the Spider-Man story. I don't want it to end, but it will when the next movie drops. I wish Sony could find a team like this one to do all their other Spider-Man spin-offs because all the other ones don't come close to this level of storytelling.
This series gets a 10 out of 10 from me.
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48:54 I think this is the same thing we see in the Loki commercial, which is called time-slipping in the MCU. We saw it in the first movie, sure, but it predominately happened to all the Spider-People not from Miles' universe--only one variant per universe. In the Multiverse of Madness Reed Richards explained to Doctor Strange that if one leaves a large enough footprint in a universe, an incursion will occur. All of these Spider-People existing in the same space can't be good--they are all the same person...making their footprint bigger than it should be. I think those glitches we're seeing are small incursions. Did you take a look a Spots' powers? The black residue his powers give off looks very similar to the black residue we see in Multiverse of Madness and What If? Just after an incursion occurs.
All of the Spider-People cease being the person they were before their bite; they become a mutate, a combination of their spider and the person they were, as their DNA is overwritten and transformed. Miles' glitching in Universe 42 seems like it shouldn't be a thing to me or at least not to the same degree, as part of him is also from this universe--yes, I know his spider glitched in his universe, but that spider never had Miles.
If pay close attention to the color of Hobie's shoelaces, you'll find out that they're blue. Punks (or anyone of counterculture) will wear blue shoelaces when they have killed a police officer. (Or gotten one killed). Maybe Hobie's Traumatic Event (what Miguel refers to as "Canon Events", I call Traumatic Events because of all of the trauma that goes on. If you like it, share it.) Was the fact the fact he potentially got Captain Anarchy killed. (I'm theorising that he potentially his friend killed, of course. Why else would he wear those blue shoelaces?)
Next practical essay I wanna make you read is;
Miguel O'Hara (Spider-Man 2099) is WRONG. We DO NOT know what IS causing the universes to unravel (anime reference), but when an antagonist (like Miguel) expresses an idea ( like how the multiverse works), that's the story saying that THAT idea is wrong. So Gwen's dad quitting does not mean George Stacy "doesn't have to die," it's SHOWING us that Miguel is wrong about the Canon. After all, *if* he was right, things should've started glitching and falling apart as he quit, right? We'll find out what's really going on in Beyond the Spider-verse, but the point this movie is making is that there IS NO Canon, there IS NO "supposed to" and there IS NO single story of Spider-Man. Anyone can be Spider-Man and any story can be Spider-Man's story.
All the other gwebs that fall for Spider-Man how many of them are Spider-Man themselves probably none lol. I was thinking that in amazing Spider-Man two if Gwen had powers in that she probably wouldn't have died or maybe she would have but not in same way but it'd be unlikely lol
So, a few things. One, I don't think Earth 42 Miles is a villain. When The Spot is talking about abducting the spider that bit Miles, you see it approaching someone who looks an AWFUL lot like Earth 42 Miles. Also, the news report is talking about the Sinister Six Cartel, implying that the bad guys are ascendant in this world, so even as The Prowler, he could be working to undercut them. Two, Hobie is my favorite in this movie. As much as I love that Dopender from Deadpool finally got to be a pretty cool superhero, Hobie is the best. He is a very deep character who does everything he can to trick you into thinking that he is unbelievably shallow. But, at the end of the day, all of his little snide comments about the society, and warning Miles to be careful about them, and his advice about using the full hand, rather than just the fingers... all the way down to all of those little bits of tech he was stealing in plain sight and the way that he was building grass-roots bonds with the less integrated members of the society show that he was playing a very clever game all along, working to undercut Miguel's authoritarian Spider Society, and lay the groundwork for Gwen to "start up her new band." Schnee did a very good video going over all of it, and how you... kind of keep thinking that you've got him figured out, only for it to be undercut by the real Hobie underneath. Also pretty cool, he's voiced by the same actor who played Wakabi in Black Panther. Glad to see him in this role!
At 21:35, my fragging vertigo would be going CAARAZY.😂