Love the shirt in this video! Any Canadians wondering about why "Princess", the original location was an auto wrecking yard on Princess Ave in Winnipeg, they then began selling salvage auto parts by mail catalog, rest is history!
@@kc360awareness The OBS basically had a bus engine too. I know they had different names and were tuned differently but the 7.3 light truck and medium duty truck/bus version are the same for all practical purposes.
Everyone is going to have a different opinion when it comes to customer service... Part of why we started a builder membership offering discounts from our partners is for industry accountability. We want to make sure our members are getting the same treatment we are.
@@meowfaceification I’m yet to have an issue with them, but it’s all personal preference, like I absolutely will not use anything that’s industrial injection for the same deal
The Canuck/Northeast vibe speaks to me; I'm literally across the river from Sarnia. I'm a mechanical engineer for the Motor City and this gives me some serious parts envy. Well-filmed, well-spoken, informative. Badass! EDIT: Apparently you're only 2.5 hours away. I might have to visit once the pandemic is over.
You should see if gray tools would sponsor you, seeing that you live so close to them. I also think it would be great exposure for such a small Canadian company. We’ve had their wrenches for a long time I think my Grandpa picked them up at a garage sale and they’ve held up extremely well. The new ones are crazy expensive though.
Hi Rich how’s it going? Although I knew what the plans were with regards to the compound charged 24 valve P pump Cummins but I didn’t expect it to look so damn good. Massive respect for you and of course Power driven diesel for creating what looks to be an amazing setup. 👌🏻
That compound setup is really nice and well thought out. The sizing on the compressors is important as well as the charge pipe routing/ length. Definitely a good amount of r&d was put into that kit. Really quality stuff right there, and nice that the compound style makes it more linear and power more useable rather than it having to rev way out to be into boost, its basically ready to go down low and gives you a much broader power band. Great stuff. Thanks for sharing Rich! 👍👍
If you wanted to get some more power and efficiency out of that set up you could put a true “inter cooler” between the turbos to cool the charge air. Cooling between compression stages give you a lot of bang for your buck.
The the top turbo's wastgate line could be done in hard-line with just rubber at each end to keep neat and out of way. Your turbo oil supply lines could be swapped. Top turbo oil from outer port that was a sender, run it up the outer side of the snail, feed bottom turbo from inner port with 90° elbow as your top turbo oil line way to close to manifold.
I love your videos you’re very informative I’ve been a diesel mechanic for over 20 years you mention about it I might just build a costly build how much does it cost to do this 24 valve TwinTurbo set up
Want to start off by saying I'm a huge fan and you inspired me to do a Cummins swap on my old OBS Ford, welded my own engine mounts drive shaft and all the other things that you know what goes into it,
@@tigerseye73 yes the 7.3 turbo diesel in Ford are a great engine but I just want to put in one that is mechanical like the 12 valve instead of electrical like the 7.3 or 6.0
A marginally mechanically minded mate of mine decided to change diff gears in his old commodore 25 or so years ago. Well he didn't realise the L on the crownwheel bolts meant left handed thread. He sat on the first one with a rattle gun tightening it up until it loosened off. That was a good learning experience for him. He went on to become a good butcher
I've been wanting a valve cover like that. Where'd you source that one from? Great video! And just tell everybody that the runs and fisheyes are NO CHARGE!
I got a quick question you just had all that machine-gun to that and you rebuilt it and put it all together and painted it but why did you not clean the paint off of the exhaust manifold head surface
Paint doesn't hurt anything inside. Some engine builders even paint the valleys so that the oil will run down quicker. Little flakes of paint in the exhaust will hurt the turbo's and the head though.
That oil line looks really close to the manifold I’d run it the other side of the turbo even if I had to get a new hose just my opinion it’ll be fine I’m sure I heard him say you can run it different then he did (I’m just poking everyone with ocd now they are going be thinking about it lmao)
I would run both oil feed lines on the outside instead of one on the inside. Running it on the outside will keep it away from the exhaust more and you can pair them to look neater.
Just a note on turbos about one thing that never gets explained. Do people know why turbos are kind of altitude compensating? The volume of exhaust going through the turbo is one factor the other is the density or heaviness of the exhaust gases. As the air gets less, mixture gets rich, exhaust gets heavier and the turbo spins up giving more air all at the same rpm. Same works with more load, fuel is added exhaust gets heavy spins the turbo . An example almost every mechanic has had moisture from an air compressor blast through their impact tools, notice the higher speed change! (Edit to add this) When that happens notice how cold the tool get.
I just stopped by to complain about the paint!!!! ... The this, the that, the microscopic possibility that someone might see such this'es or that'es....Oh, the humanity!!! Love the build by the way. Glad for the tips and tricks, as the almost exact set-up is going in my old F350... Thanks for all the efforts... You want to piss those complaining about paint, dig out the brush and of lead-based paint and slap some of that on something... You'll really hear the screaming hords...
5:00 go get a socket from the reject pile of old tools, weld it to the center of a wrench from the same pile of unsorted tools. do the math on the length beyond the head of the torque wrench... now that bolt is torqued. torque wrench fits the socket and the wrench with the socket welded to it still fits in that tight space... "do not start stamping wrenches that have square holes in the center to fit a torque wrench, they will only buy them once"
I had a 10AN drain on my HX35W and it wouldn't spool right(2001 Cummins in a 2002 Ford), watched a video from turbo lab of america about them not flowing enough oil thus dragging the turbo down and replaced it with a stock style and now it spools perfectly. I'm curious to see what your results will be with 2 of them and those AN drain lines.
Instead of using straight oil to lubricate the turbos before startup use STP oil will drain right out of the turbo immediately STP is a little thicker and stickier it'll stay in the turbo better before startup
Compounds work a little differently than he explained it but in a nutshell.... the compound turbos help each other all the way from idle to redline. If you put a bunch of pressure gauges on that system it's a little different than he explained it
you more a compound guy over vgt ? any technical reason to choice or it more personal preference ? Bus engines are going be in short supply as now I want a bus engine too, don't know what I want put it in but they look filthy fun :-)
Hi Deboss Garage, I am not a diesel engine mechanic so by no means am I saying you're doing anything wrong. I have built a few gas turbo engines and I'm an engineer in the auto industry, though I do not deal with engines. However, I have a few questions about your turbo setup. Was there a reason you didn't get water cooled turbos? With gas engines water cooling the turbo leads to a huge increase in reliability. I'd think with the higher temperatures of Diesel it would add even more reliability. Is there space to redo the air inlet so you don't have a "hot air intake"? I picked up 75HP on a 400hp gas turbo build because cold air is denser and doesn't make the engine knock as much, but again that's gas not diesel. I'd imagine there would still be a significant benefit for having actual cold air for a diesel, though. Leif
Again you had me laughing with the talking truck. The thirteen people who disliked this video you need to seek some medical help. Loving your work yet again from DOWN UNDER
That top oil line to the primary turbo is bothering me. It should have came around the BACK colder side of the turbo, away from the manifold.....but what do I know.
May I ask how to get a twin inlet air to head please I have a 2003 e350 4x4 rolling frame 24.valve cummins have 1974 gmc motorhome want to put body on ford frame as soon I have $13k the 1000 allison transmission from c.v conversion but more on p.pump please
Don't do the coolent bypass, you'll never have heat in the winter . They feed into the heater core . Could always do a separate line up to the top of your thermostat elbow and put a ball valve in it so you can turn it off for the winter . Or even better Put a thermostat housing at the back of the block and run a separate hose up to the original thermostat elbow and drill and tap the top of thermostat elbow 1/2 npt .
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I have 2 styles of black paint
0 to 60 challenge AL at the skid factory on dragy times 🤞
Love the shirt in this video!
Any Canadians wondering about why "Princess", the original location was an auto wrecking yard on Princess Ave in Winnipeg, they then began selling salvage auto parts by mail catalog, rest is history!
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"why's the ford get a bus engine I want a bus engine" Cracks me up Everytime 🤣
Funny thing is the 24v is also a bus engine, I have one. Of course maybe the irony of that makes it even more humorous.
@@kc360awareness The OBS basically had a bus engine too. I know they had different names and were tuned differently but the 7.3 light truck and medium duty truck/bus version are the same for all practical purposes.
@@benjamins9121 if you are referring to the OBS Ford F-350, the particular one he bought had a 460 in it, not a 7.3 PS
much respect when you said "without throwing coal" love your channels
didnt he say rolling
I love that my local diesel shop is getting out there as much as they are, power driven is amazing and there customer service is great also
Everyone is going to have a different opinion when it comes to customer service... Part of why we started a builder membership offering discounts from our partners is for industry accountability. We want to make sure our members are getting the same treatment we are.
@@meowfaceification I’m yet to have an issue with them, but it’s all personal preference, like I absolutely will not use anything that’s industrial injection for the same deal
@@DEBOSSGARAGE I’m glad you guys still care, most people that start to get a following get away from the right of path
@@meowfaceification Sounds like it's ruined your life & keeps you awake at night.
@@meowfaceification It was just a joke, fella. I'd be exactly the same.
Rich’s mouth and voice on the front of the Silverado made me laugh a lot harder then expected. Required some explanation to those around me lmao!!!
1:31 Dude has a super clean fave then he goes and rub his face straight passion for working on engines we need mechanics like him
3:28 neat wrench/Allen wrench technique! So much valuable knowledge packed into these videos. Thanks Rich!
The Canuck/Northeast vibe speaks to me; I'm literally across the river from Sarnia. I'm a mechanical engineer for the Motor City and this gives me some serious parts envy. Well-filmed, well-spoken, informative. Badass!
EDIT: Apparently you're only 2.5 hours away. I might have to visit once the pandemic is over.
Live about 10 minutes from sarnia accross from stag island or marysville Michigan. Small world
You should see if gray tools would sponsor you, seeing that you live so close to them. I also think it would be great exposure for such a small Canadian company. We’ve had their wrenches for a long time I think my Grandpa picked them up at a garage sale and they’ve held up extremely well. The new ones are crazy expensive though.
Just remember, If you run three turbo's Al Butler would say "Primary, secondary, and tertiary", whilst sipping a lemon squash.
Hey Moe!!
@@MWestern-m4g "I'm a victim of circumstance..."
@@bvward Certnee!!! Moe ,Larry Cheese!! no --- Limburger-nyuck nyuck -slowly I turn--
Super Turbo.
Hi Rich how’s it going? Although I knew what the plans were with regards to the compound charged 24 valve P pump Cummins but I didn’t expect it to look so damn good.
Massive respect for you and of course Power driven diesel for creating what looks to be an amazing setup. 👌🏻
Thanks man. Wait till you see the paint job!
Give us a glove update rich! Let's see them baby soft hands 😄
That compound setup is really nice and well thought out. The sizing on the compressors is important as well as the charge pipe routing/ length. Definitely a good amount of r&d was put into that kit. Really quality stuff right there, and nice that the compound style makes it more linear and power more useable rather than it having to rev way out to be into boost, its basically ready to go down low and gives you a much broader power band. Great stuff. Thanks for sharing Rich! 👍👍
"Why does the ford get a bus engine? I want a bus engine "
The highlight of every video
I've got a ford ranger 2lt BI-TURBO diesel in Australia. That little engine puts out 210hp and 368 ft-lb, its an amazing little engine.
Send me Bara engines.
Well split the profits 50/50
I feel like dual boost gauges would be cool :) One on the Secondary turbo and one on the intake :)
& pyrometers
If you wanted to get some more power and efficiency out of that set up you could put a true “inter cooler” between the turbos to cool the charge air. Cooling between compression stages give you a lot of bang for your buck.
adds to spool up time and takes up even more room if you can fit it great but my understanding is most trucks don't have the room to do it
Me when I watch these videos: "I like your funny words magic man".
Let me see I'm almost 60 and I think I've been using that double wrench method for about 45 years as good as any breaker bar almost
There's an actual extension handle made to fit into wrenches
4:49 that's how I know you are a veteran mechanic. Using tricks that my grandpa taught me.
Great explanation of compound turbo and how it works
Pdd and DDP are the move for 12v power mods.
I love turbos, so relaxing / satisfying to me!
Two great channels to watch PDDS great.
Always agree with Turbo Yoda!!!😆
I reckon some of those spooly Bois might end up in Australia .
BROCOZILLA!!! Nobody else has done anything close barely anybody is even playing with this new engine come on we need it!!
Great explanation Rich. Great vid thanks for sharing .
Love the progress Rich. Be awesome when both trucks are running.
Sunday morning, diesel, turbo x2. nothing better
Nice video ! Power driven diesel is the way to go ! What a nice kit. You will like the afc live !! I had it on my previous 12v😬👌🏻💪🏻
PDD is all I needed to hear to get a thumbs up...
The the top turbo's wastgate line could be done in hard-line with just rubber at each end to keep neat and out of way. Your turbo oil supply lines could be swapped. Top turbo oil from outer port that was a sender, run it up the outer side of the snail, feed bottom turbo from inner port with 90° elbow as your top turbo oil line way to close to manifold.
A thing of Beauty...well done
I love your videos you’re very informative I’ve been a diesel mechanic for over 20 years you mention about it I might just build a costly build how much does it cost to do this 24 valve TwinTurbo set up
FWIW I'd re run that top oil feed line around the other side of the compressor housing, so its not so close to the the exhaust manifold
Love the content Rich. Explained perfectly for us idiots like me. And you do some really cool builds. Keep it mate.
Egts are just a number
So far the cummins is looking pretty beast, might have to look into this for myself. 🤔
Fascinating video Rich! 👍🏻
Hey Rich your channel rocks
Thanks man!
Want to start off by saying I'm a huge fan and you inspired me to do a Cummins swap on my old OBS Ford, welded my own engine mounts drive shaft and all the other things that you know what goes into it,
Can’t wait to see and hear it run putting a 12 valve in my 99 f250 can’t wait to get it done
Why do all you Ford guys put Cummins in your trucks? Aren't the Ford diesels any good?
@@tigerseye73 yes the 7.3 turbo diesel in Ford are a great engine but I just want to put in one that is mechanical like the 12 valve instead of electrical like the 7.3 or 6.0
looks sweet
Your a rockstar
I love this channel
Now that’s a tidy set up. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤜🤛🇬🇧🇨🇦🇬🇧🇨🇦
I just ordered BorgWarner SXE366 in a .91 AR Housing for my 3.0 liter BMW N54. One size smaller turbo than your secondary turbo
Woowa
Power Driven Diesel for the win! I have their filter and I love it
Love your work keep it up!
Hay Rich,love the videos, I was just wondering what brand sockets you use that are square instead of round like most sets?
Can you cool the air enough
Wondering if you can get a big enough cooler in the Silverado to cool it
Nice Rich 👍
NEEDZ MOAR INTERCOOLERZ
7:19↩ what's that red stuff you spray on that gasket for the oil supply line awesome vid
spray-tack-gasket. Makes the gaskets sticky and seal better.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE Thanks bro
I read the other day,tighten till it loosens . Lol.
Righty tighty lefty loosey until righty tighty becomes righty loosey
A marginally mechanically minded mate of mine decided to change diff gears in his old commodore 25 or so years ago. Well he didn't realise the L on the crownwheel bolts meant left handed thread. He sat on the first one with a rattle gun tightening it up until it loosened off. That was a good learning experience for him. He went on to become a good butcher
The included caps on the Block Drain fittings are for pounding them in. Didn't need to use the socket.
That makes sense. I had a box full of them in my service truck to put on lines to keep them clean. My brain automatically goes to that setting
I've been wanting a valve cover like that. Where'd you source that one from? Great video!
And just tell everybody that the runs and fisheyes are NO CHARGE!
They are in the buses. Any 24V that isn't from a Dodge
I got a quick question you just had all that machine-gun to that and you rebuilt it and put it all together and painted it but why did you not clean the paint off of the exhaust manifold head surface
Paint doesn't hurt anything inside. Some engine builders even paint the valleys so that the oil will run down quicker. Little flakes of paint in the exhaust will hurt the turbo's and the head though.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE I was just talking about the ceiling surface aspect of the gasket between the exhaust manifold and the head
That oil line looks really close to the manifold I’d run it the other side of the turbo even if I had to get a new hose just my opinion it’ll be fine I’m sure I heard him say you can run it different then he did (I’m just poking everyone with ocd now they are going be thinking about it lmao)
could the longer oil feed line go around the other side of the upper turbo to avoid the hot manifold?
I would run both oil feed lines on the outside instead of one on the inside.
Running it on the outside will keep it away from the exhaust more and you can pair them to look neater.
Just a note on turbos about one thing that never gets explained. Do people know why turbos are kind of altitude compensating? The volume of exhaust going through the turbo is one factor the other is the density or heaviness of the exhaust gases. As the air gets less, mixture gets rich, exhaust gets heavier and the turbo spins up giving more air all at the same rpm. Same works with more load, fuel is added exhaust gets heavy spins the turbo . An example almost every mechanic has had moisture from an air compressor blast through their impact tools, notice the higher speed change! (Edit to add this) When that happens notice how cold the tool get.
Are you not worried about the short manifold bolts? I've heard people say that longer bolts with sleeves handle the thermal expansion better.
I wonder if you put o rings on a gas v8 block and head you'd get the same effect?
"Get it into position, then tighten your cartridge into your exhaust housing."
Giggity.
all the boost 😍
you will love AFC live w/max travel kit..no more fuel plates and in cab fueling control !
Still should have a zero or 100 shaped plate in it to prevent rack over travel hang-up (hung rack.)
mint
I just stopped by to complain about the paint!!!! ... The this, the that, the microscopic possibility that someone might see such this'es or that'es....Oh, the humanity!!! Love the build by the way. Glad for the tips and tricks, as the almost exact set-up is going in my old F350... Thanks for all the efforts... You want to piss those complaining about paint, dig out the brush and of lead-based paint and slap some of that on something... You'll really hear the screaming hords...
If the bigger turbo blows through the smaller turbo, does that not cause a restriction? 🤔
For those exhaust manifold bolts that mount the turbo, could you get a crows foot on it on a torque wrench to torque it?
Crow foot will change the torque reading a bunch. Depending on the angle between the crow foot and the torque wrench.
I just want him to say pressure ratio once when talking about the compounds :)
reminds me of a song.. "shotgunnin' in a CUMMINS Silverado!"
Turbo Yoda:"Use the force...d induction!"
1/4 turn before snap off. And the double wrench trick. Old school knowledge....enjoy watching your clips....no homo!!
5:00 go get a socket from the reject pile of old tools, weld it to the center of a wrench from the same pile of unsorted tools. do the math on the length beyond the head of the torque wrench... now that bolt is torqued. torque wrench fits the socket and the wrench with the socket welded to it still fits in that tight space...
"do not start stamping wrenches that have square holes in the center to fit a torque wrench, they will only buy them once"
Would it be better to put the 90 oil feed in the spot closer to the exhaust gives more clearance by default
You just crank it down til it starts to strip, back a quarter turn, then call the apprentice over
OIl patch tight, make it tight, then give it 2 more turns
I had a 10AN drain on my HX35W and it wouldn't spool right(2001 Cummins in a 2002 Ford), watched a video from turbo lab of america about them not flowing enough oil thus dragging the turbo down and replaced it with a stock style and now it spools perfectly. I'm curious to see what your results will be with 2 of them and those AN drain lines.
The nice thing about this kit is that I am the 10xxx person to put them on. All the testing has been done for me
What size wheels and tires does the beautiful silveraydo have
This is THE engine that needs to go in #CleetusMcfarland's humvee
DT466!!
Instead of using straight oil to lubricate the turbos before startup use STP oil will drain right out of the turbo immediately STP is a little thicker and stickier it'll stay in the turbo better before startup
I take the lines off again and oil right before cranking. They are easy to get at.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE that's the right way to do it but most people don't
STP has no actual lubricating properties.
watch the project farm review of STP
Have you installed the welch plugs into the side of the block?
For the turbo oil drains, couldn't you have a tee with both lines enter the block at one single point?
ever seen a 2 lane mcdonalds drive thru?
@@wades623 You're the guy hangin' out the window asking if you want fries with that, right?
Compounds work a little differently than he explained it but in a nutshell.... the compound turbos help each other all the way from idle to redline. If you put a bunch of pressure gauges on that system it's a little different than he explained it
the guys from power driven diesel helped finnegan from roadkill put a diesels in his ramp truck, i think i liked the explanation on that video better
Where are you finding all the old school buses in Ontario??? There are none in my part lol
Does that mean I should do this to my 04 cummins?
You could call it the “high pressure turbo” instead of primary, that’s what CAT calls them, and it kind of makes sense.
you more a compound guy over vgt ?
any technical reason to choice or it more personal preference ?
Bus engines are going be in short supply as now I want a bus engine too, don't know what I want put it in but they look filthy fun :-)
hello, what's your turbo (borgwarnner) thank's
Hi Deboss Garage,
I am not a diesel engine mechanic so by no means am I saying you're doing anything wrong. I have built a few gas turbo engines and I'm an engineer in the auto industry, though I do not deal with engines.
However, I have a few questions about your turbo setup.
Was there a reason you didn't get water cooled turbos? With gas engines water cooling the turbo leads to a huge increase in reliability. I'd think with the higher temperatures of Diesel it would add even more reliability.
Is there space to redo the air inlet so you don't have a "hot air intake"? I picked up 75HP on a 400hp gas turbo build because cold air is denser and doesn't make the engine knock as much, but again that's gas not diesel. I'd imagine there would still be a significant benefit for having actual cold air for a diesel, though.
Leif
Ask Gale Banks this question. He may have the answer you're looking for.
Never been this early.
Again you had me laughing with the talking truck.
The thirteen people who disliked this video you need to seek some medical help.
Loving your work yet again from
DOWN UNDER
What would Bison think??
"Woah you rolling coal except its blue"
Rolling smurfs.
That top oil line to the primary turbo is bothering me. It should have came around the BACK colder side of the turbo, away from the manifold.....but what do I know.
One of the number's
May I ask how to get a twin inlet air to head please I have a 2003 e350 4x4 rolling frame 24.valve cummins have 1974 gmc motorhome want to put body on ford frame as soon I have $13k the 1000 allison transmission from c.v conversion but more on p.pump please
Don't do the coolent bypass, you'll never have heat in the winter . They feed into the heater core . Could always do a separate line up to the top of your thermostat elbow and put a ball valve in it so you can turn it off for the winter .
Or even better Put a thermostat housing at the back of the block and run a separate hose up to the original thermostat elbow and drill and tap the top of thermostat elbow 1/2 npt .
There are coolant bypass with a thermostat built into them.
Best to return bypass flow into the water pump intake flow.