Question? When the threaded part broke off in the shell, did you have to get a new extractor tool because I don't see how that threaded part could be put back on the shaft of the tool? Just curious.
@@mikesamra9126 Yes, no way to properly reattach something that small, you could maybe build up a weld where the extractor threads used to be and properly quench, thread, heat and harden again, in a pinch and with proper knowledge and equipment...
This Is The Best How To Video on TH-cam for removing the very painful and costly Ford 3V broken Plugs if not done the way you suggest. Excellent video with clear camera shooting with very clear and thoroughly explained procedural steps. Thanks Huge Brian!! You really are tops.
@@FordTechMakuloco I like the way your tool only has 2 threads worn where the spark plug was screwed inside the head when you showed us the tour of that tool 👍is that type of plug faulty in all cars/ trucks way over due for maintenance or just a Ford problem? I've never seen or used that type of plug yet just standard normal looking ones
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Because somebody’s after and better paid than me, you, every Ford owner and mechanic said it was a great idea and should be mass produced immediately.
This is a great video. I was able to get 6 of the 8 plugs out, and the last two broke. I was able to get the 7th one out, and the 8th gave me a lot of trouble (farthest one back on the passenger side, by the firewall). I almost gave up. I tried a dewalt 12volt impact with an extension with no luck. Here are the two things that I did, which made it successful and I hope anyone struggling will try this: 1. The sleeve that holds the extractor is loose and the extractor does not line up centered on the plug metal sleeve. To fix this, I added one rotation of electrical tape to the upper part of the extractor, which then made it line up perfectly. This really helped! 2. Even with the extractor lining up perfectly, it wouldn't bite. I tried pushing on the ratchet while turning, I tried an impact gun, etc. Then I took a ball pein hammer, and gave the extractor a few light taps. Then a few turns, then a few more light taps, and it grabbed! Do not hit the extractor very hard as you don't want to risk pushing the entire plug into the cylinder. Awesome way to have the first threads bite the metal. 3. Once my two broken plugs were extracted, I did 4-5 rounds of compressed air in each cylinder, followed by a shop vac hooked to a small clear tube that got all the way down into the cylinder head. Rotate the clear tubing around many times. Use a small shop vac, and start with the vac completely cleaned out. That way you can verify the pieces that you get out. Open and empty the shop vac after each round, and repeat the compressed air and shop vac routine until the shop vac doesn't have anything in it. This was the only way I could figure that I got all or most of the porcelain out. I replaced the remaining two plugs, put everything back together, and it runs like a brand new truck. My truck had 138,000 miles and the plugs were original. I can't believe it even ran. It even fixed what I thought was a transmission issue on the highway at low speed on an incline. No more shutter, and the truck is much quieter now. Ford wanted $1000 labor, $400 parts, $100 per broken plug, and a potential pulling of the head. If you have decent mechanical skill, patience, and the correct tools, you can do this job. Just plan on breaking a few and have the extractor ready!
Gus Muller reading this is going to help me this weekend. I am doing a whole tune up on this vehicle and watch is his other video on the removal gave me 2nd thoughts on doing it.
The extraction tool comes with a "porcelain pusher" for shoving the porcelain down further into ground tube. This is likely why your extractor didn't grab.
This is an excellent instruction video on the usage of the Lisle style broken plug removal tool... from a guy who's done a lot of them. Be sure to see his other updated video on the removal of unbroken said plugs by heating the engine RIGHT UP to operating temperature. FTM, you are an invaluable TH-cam resource when I am working on Fords. THANK YOU!
Changed coils and plugs in my 2006 Ford F150 5.4L this weekend. Had one plug bust on me. Used this tool per your directions and it worked perfect...thanks.
AWESOME!!!!! thanks a million brother! was already shittin it cause i have a triton with this exact problem ... called my Snap-on dealer and he had it in stock... saved me out a jam thanks to this vid!
I changed mine a couple of months ago. Warmed up the engine for a few minutes then sprayed each plug with pb blaster and let it sit for about half an hour. I used a 3/8” socket wrench since I don’t have an impact wrench. 4 of the plugs broke and I initially used the extractor tool that they rent out at oreilley’s. It worked very poorly, and didn’t extract any of them. Bought the lisle tool and it worked really well. Make sure you have an air compressor to blow out any broken porcelain or metal shaving before extracting. It really sucked and I’m not really that knowledgeable when it comes to working on cars or trucks, but I’m glad I did it on my own instead of taking it to the dealership
i too am a ford certified tech. i worked at the dealer for 5 years. i am now a diesel fleet ambulance mechanic. you've prolly heard about the 3/8 th inch impact being used to remove these plugs. ive done countless 3v tune ups this way and i havent had one break off. be sure to push down on the impact while you loosen them up.
Thanks for the help! 2006 Mustang GT with 30k miles. Figured I would pull the plugs hoping none would break with the low miles, but they have been in there for 9 years LOL. Anyways, 4 came out no problem, 4 broke. I borrowed this tool from a friend and watched your video to figure out how to use it. With the tool and your instructions the broken plugs came out just fine. Really pretty easy to use too. Thanks for the help!!
Haven’t tried the procedure yet, but confidence level is very high. A thought about porcelain chips. If you have a fairly nice shop vac, my thought is to adapt down to a hose that will fit down into the cylinder and suck out what you can first. In addition prior to even trying to extract the plugs, blow off the entire area first. No need to get debris into the well in the beginning. There’s also a procedure to use a large amount of carb cleaner before attempting removal. It worked on 6 out of the 8, and the two that broke were in the front of the engine as opposed to back against the fire wall. Very much worth the effort to possibly get a few easy to get to extractions as opposed to the nightmare ones. Ask any dentist.
I started research this with intentions to buy 5.4 truck, this vid was great, reminded me so much of the last Ford I had, I'm not going to buy the truck with 101 thousand on it.
@@alfredquintero4421 I had a Chevy Venture that was a HUGE NIGHTMARE to try and change the plugs on. To get to the back plugs you had to remove the damn engine mounts and roll the engine forward. Then of course the plug wires tore to shit and needed to be replaced because god forbid you could reuse them. Don't think Chevy/GM is easy. those bastards are just as bad or even worse than Ford. Most of Ford parts are just bolt on/off without having to disassemble half the damn motor
@@alfredquintero4421 Chevys suck. Just stop. I would rather deal with Ford then government bailout GM. My buddy has a GMC vortex max, had the transfer case and transmission go out and it's under 80 thousand miles. Biggest pieces of crap you can buy.
Jorgeothejungle Sounds like your body does nt know how to drive a truck , and probaly why everyone see 's more Fords !! , NEW AND OLD FOUND DEAD ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD !! . JUST KEEPING IT REAL !!! .
Awesome video, thanks for posting. I've got the confidence now to replace the plugs on my 4.6 3v knowing that if I have a break I can remedy without calling in someone who's eager to take few hundred dollars from me. Your video's are great man, thank you.
I'm a auto tech also. Worked for Ford 8 years and 16 years at small shops. Just did my spark plugs on my 05 Mustang and I broke cyld 1 and cyld 5. Used my Matco extract tool to get them out. Now the question from tech to tech. I heard that using a impact does a better job in removing these type plugs. Just want to know your professional opinion about that. Seems to be a over kill in getting these fragile spark plugs out. But they say the constant motion keeps them from breaking. How do you feel about that and have you ever used this technique? Thanks for a great video....
My mustang has over 150k with the original spark plugs... whoops. I tried the seafoam and overnight soak method and I got 6 out without a break but two decided they wanted to cost me $100 for the tool. Thank you for this video!!! The step by step instructions and camera angles are PERFECT! Fingers crossed they come out as well as the one in the video does!
4 came out whole and 4 cracked. The tool worked perfectly along with your instructions. I would NOT have tightened them nearly enough if you didn't cite the cracking and awful sounds being a good thing in this case. Thanks again sir!
I did this exact procedure and it worked beautifully. Thanks for making the video. Tip for anyone planning on doing this. You need 3/4, 11mm, 15/16, and a 16mm socket to do this job.
Thanks so much for making your terrific video. I did just exactly as you described and was all set for a harrowing day. All went well! I did discover that in late 2008 Ford finally made a correction and made heads for the 5.4 V8 Triton motor that accepts regular "normal" type spark plugs. You can tell what kind of plugs are in your truck by the color of the coil plug boot. If the boots are black, then you're going you have the achy breaky spark plugs. If the boots are brown you should have the new head design normal type spark pugs. Thanks again for taking the time to make your terrific video!!
I realize this post is old but I just took my plugs out (06 mustang GT) 2nd owner, never been changed. 4 broke, 2 each bank. Gonna buy the tool in the next couple days and give it a shot. I went ahead and installed comp motha thumpr cams while I was at it.lol...wish me luck.
I want to thank you for this video. I was ready to pull the heads on my 5.4 when I saw this video. Bought the lisle tool and in 2 hours had 7 of the 8 tips pulled out. 1 plug came out complete. Thanks again! If you're ever in my area beer is on me!
@Ken Elliott Dude. Shhh. With crush gasket, 1/2 to 2/3 turn after finger tight. Without crush gasket, 1/4 to 1/3 turn after finger tight. THESE SPARK PLUGS ARE IN A DEEP TUBE, you're not putting them in without a damned socket on em as well as an extension...Unless you got damned fingers like an anteaters tongue.
@Ken Elliott also bro, on the '04-'08 triton 5.4l 3valve engine, THIS IS NORMAL, it's a poor design that Ford's acknowledged and fixed for late model 08-14 engines. IN FACT, this 04-08 design was meant to fix the 5.4 2v problem of too few threads and too thin head deck which caused the 2v to shoot plugs out of the head if thread's got damaged, and or late life 300k mi engines that have had 30 sets of plugs through them...!
Great video! I have wanted to buy an older F-150 but have been hesitant since they have a reputation for broken spark plugs. I think I'm up for the challenge
i just did mine,its an 07 89k and i had that hesitation under acceleration,bought the tool at napa for 80 bucks,what i did is had the engine warm up,took the coils out,spray every hole with PB blaster and used the 3/8 gun,none broke,they came out easy,took the tool back to napa for refund,but anyways great video,thanks a lot.
Okay thank you. Was your engine light ever on or flashing when it was misfiring? Mine has popped on once when it did it and flashed for a couple seconds but it no longer comes on when it happens Sent from my iPhone
Great video, with good slow details on the process. The engine is great, but this whole long plug into the cylinder head was a major design flaw. Of course I was thinking why couldn't you vacuum the porcelain out of the cylinder?
I use a shop vac with a small piece of clear tubing taped to the hose, then stick it in the cylinder to remove any small porcelain pieces, thought I'd share! Nice video!
That's exactly what I was thinking when he started blowing out the inside of the cylinder. Should be able to vacuum out the small loose debris fairly easy. Good video though. He did a good job overall.
I would do both actually. Use the long-reach blow gun but have the vac hose right over the hole. The blow gun has more pressure so it will dislodge things that the vac will not, but then the vac is right there to grab the debris
Appreciate all of your videos on youtube, they are by far some of the best out there. In regards to the extraction of the tip, should a person still consider a shot of two of carb cleaner to loosen things up before extraction?
O. M. G. This was an experience. 06 Mustang GT...4 came out fine, 4 broke. Tried the kit with the glue and pins first, for 2 days, JUNK!!! Was freaking out. This video saved us! Got this Lisle kit and followed your video, they came right out! Was concerned about the ground strap breaking and pieces falling, realized it just stretched and popped the corner, no pieces! THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN! You really saved us! We have 2 Mustangs....one more to go, so....Thanks thanks thanks! Lifesaver! Like really, Thanks! 👍👏👍👏👍👏😁😁😁
Changed mine today one broke but easy extraction, for 190 thousand miles on it the plugs were carbon free and looked like new...changed the coils while I was at it , the 2005 has another couple hundred thousand left in her...
Useful to see, mine has just left the bottom metal part of the plug on 1 cylinder, I was so careful taking them out, didn't even feel it breaking, felt just like the others. I've heard there's an updated plug for these that's one piece of metal?
First and foremost, Thank you for this amazing video! I have a 06 mustang GT ~130K miles, no idea when the plugs were last changed so I went into this expecting to break some. I took all precautions, PB Blaster overnight and a really gentle approach. I broke 5 of 8. 1 broke as expected in this video, 4 of them the nut and thread portion broke off leaving the porcelin and electrode fully intact. With the new version of the lisle tool I was able to get the porcelin out of 2 nice and clean. On the 2 remaining the electrode broke off and the porcelin is still fully intact. I am assuming that now I need to start smashing away at the porcelin to get it to the "normal" broken state. I know the electrode is broken really high up so that will be a project as well (hopefully I will be able to yank it out with pliers) but I wanted to ask here if anyone has encountered this or has any good ideas before I start smashing porcelin? Thanks!
Yes I just bought a 06 f150 to flip took me a 1/2 hour to get the starter out So i'm investigating the rest of my coming nightmares to look forward to Sooo Ford thought this was a grand idea not even including the million ways it leaks coolant
Excellent video. But I find myself wondering why Ford didn't take a second to apply a little anti-seize on the plug when the engine was being assembled. Would have saved a lot of mechanics a lot of headaches down the road.
Always the best place for ford repair videos. Thank you. I just want to confirm that this removal tool is compatible with a 4.6 l mustang gt 3v. I wont have to buy a tool specifically for the 4.6l vs the Triton?
A lot of effort👏👏👏 I wonder why ford uses this complicated spark plug and sells special tools to supposedly get us out of trouble with this style of spark plug? Too much complication it could design with much more simplicity!🤷🏾♂️
try buying 3/8" or 1/2" tubing and hook it up to your vacuum and suck it out. I had to tape a metal fish tape to it to keep it straight. works better than expected!
Thank you so much for posting this video. Everyone has a little different way of doing this. When I did mine I sprayed about a teaspoon of DEEP CREEP into the cylinder one at a time. Then I waited about an hour before trying to remove it. I used an air impact wrench and just trickle it back and forth a little at a time until it finally broke loose. At the time I did this the truck only has 22,000 miles on it. I replaced them all and didn't break a one, knock on wood. Then I did this again when the truck had 54,000 miles on it and replaced them all with the second revision only to find out later there is a third revision plug. Even at 54,000 miles number four cylinder it took me four hours to finally get it out without breaking it. Yes I did put a good coat of anti size on all the threads when i did it the first time, so much for the anti size.
FordTechMakuloco, you are awesome and so is that tool. I broke 3 off in my Explorer. Bought the tool and had them all out in less than an hour. The truck runs like new. Thanks again.
Great video Mr makuloco, do you remove the center electro before push the porcelain down, or you pushes both together? Thank you and cheers from Ontario ca
This is by for the best instructional video for this ANYWHERE on the internet! Great explanation. Will I need to go buy deep sockets for this or will standard sockets work fine?
Thanks for this video. The best one on TH-cam. You gave me the encouragement and detail instructions to perform this job. I removed 8 plugs: 7 broken. These are the original plugs with 150+k miles. Truck runs smooth now and no more shuddering in OD due to misfires. Thanks so much. I watch a ton of videos and learn so much from you. Keep up the good work. I wish your business was in VA. I would surely have you service my truck.
Way to go Ford- two thumbs down! Great video on how to deal with this boondoggle though. Thanks for the valuable info. You have undoubtedly saved viewers THOUSANDS of dollars in shop fees by knowing how to do it themselves.
So I have this problem right now and the top of the spark plug is still there I have an oem Ford Triton broken spark plug porcelain and Electrode removal set will this work the same way as the other Lyle set I am nervous about doing this job but in the middle of it right as we speak
Same here thankyou so much for the instructional video. Out of 8 spark plugs only one broke and it was at the front of the engine. Overall it took about 3 1/2 hours.
Great video, thank you. What happens to the threaded part of the plug, is this pulled out? Getting ready to start project, but want to understand if I also have to extract the threaded part of the plug?
Yes Ford did have a design flaw with the spark plugs, and Ford should have some sort of recall, but there is a solution to it, keep buying new vehicles or go back to old school and pull those plugs out much earlier like 30,000 miles or 3 years problem solved. All vehicles need routine maintenance if you want reliability.
Motorcraft learned its lesson with these plugs and the new plugs' design was changed. I watched this great video, bought the Lisle tool for $65, and changed all 8 on my 2006 F150. The truck had 144,000 miles on it then (too much I know before a first spark plug change). Even with overnight soaking I broke 4 out of 8. The Lisle tool took care of extracting all in short order. The old plugs had normal wear indications. After I finished, I realized this is no big deal and was glad I had not paid a shop to do this job. The added time for extracting the 4 broken plugs was about an hour. Ford does have a settlement to partially reimburse those who paid big bills to get their plugs changed before 120,000 miles. Many thanks to FordTechMakuloco.
Great Video! Quick question, what about the broken pieces of ground strap that are now in the cylinder? Do you try to get it out or just leave it? Thanks
James Washer stripped heads are only an issue on the 2v versions, which were due the heads only having 2 or 3 threads. They were redesigned in 2003.5 with more threads just before ford went to the 3v in 2004.
I broke the white thing above the spark plug (I don't know, maybe ceramic..) and it's completely in the engine. And I worked the car and felt the engine a little shaken, so I turned it off immediately.. I think I'm scrowed
I own a Ford F150 2004 5.4 3V with 80k as well manage to take all 7 of them with out breaking just broke one in cylinder #1 panic at first but came across your video i needed to fix right away its my work truck so did not want to wait for shipping and looked at my local auto parts the only one that carried and had it in stock was NAPA in Orange County, CA. Pick it up $80 And worked well was able to extract the tip that got stuck inside was scared at first but gave it a try and worked well thanks alot highly recommend the Leisle tool. Thanks alot for video. FordTechMakuloco
What kind of an imbecile would design such a thing? I've been driving cars (and changing spark plugs) for nigh onto 60 years and have never encountered this.
Changed the original motorcraft plugs on my mustang....huge mistake!! I got 6 of the 8 plugs out, 2 broke. Had to get the Lisle tool, it only got out 1 of the broken plugs, still had to go to the shop to get the last plug out.
Great video!! I started with the EverTough 67002 removal kit rented from O'Reilly Auto Parts (had to go back for the required 67003 kit containing the consumable parts) and their approach of removing the porcelain first with a glued-in steel pin was a tremendous waste of time. I broke the glue bond twice and snapped a pin on the third attempt. And each time requiring an hour for the glue to set. I ordered this Lisle kit on Amazon with overnight delivery and it took 15 minutes to read the directions and get the broken plug out! Thanks FordTechMakuloco for illustrating how simple these tools are to use. Quick, easy and they work.
Have you ever seen the electrode/grounding strap on the end of the spark plugs broken off of the old style and gone into the engine if so will it damage the cylinder or can you just replace the old spark plug with the new and call it a day. I put a magnet into my cylinder 1 hole hoping to pick it up but it seems to be gone. I hope the metal grounding part didn’t damage my valves or piston. I’ve heard some folks say theirs just blew out the exhaust. Also is the latest spark plug the sp-515 or the sp-546 I only ask because the video is so old it may have changed.
I have an important question. I got a socket boot stuck on a new spark plug. Didn’t realize until it was pushed down around the nut. I tried picks, plastic weld in a socket, nothing. So I seen someone use jb weld in a spark plug socket. I tried that now my socket is stuck on the spark plug. It spins freely but I can’t pull it out. Not sure what do do next?
I commend you for a quality video but Fords make me puke. (I'm a Dodge guy.) No, I'm not a troll. I have a '98 f150 (it was free) with a cylinder 6 misfire that is causing me to watch this.
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plug part # still correct have to do mine again?
My question is why do they break? Was watching another video and the guy said it was always the back ones.
Thanks Bro. Used your affiliate link for an extraction tool, hope it helps!
Question? When the threaded part broke off in the shell, did you have to get a new extractor tool because I don't see how that threaded part could be put back on the shaft of the tool? Just curious.
@@mikesamra9126 Yes, no way to properly reattach something that small, you could maybe build up a weld where the extractor threads used to be and properly quench, thread, heat and harden again, in a pinch and with proper knowledge and equipment...
Ford should have been sued for this
This Is The Best How To Video on TH-cam for removing the very painful and costly Ford 3V broken Plugs if not done the way you suggest. Excellent video with clear camera shooting with very clear and thoroughly explained procedural steps. Thanks Huge Brian!! You really are tops.
+Hawaiian F150 Thanks!
@@FordTechMakuloco I like the way your tool only has 2 threads worn where the spark plug was screwed inside the head when you showed us the tour of that tool 👍is that type of plug faulty in all cars/ trucks way over due for maintenance or just a Ford problem? I've never seen or used that type of plug yet just standard normal looking ones
I just wanna meet the ford idiot who designed this crap.
RIIIIIIGHT??? IDIOTS!
certified30 bro give me 5 minutes alone with this guy lol
hopefully F'er is on unemployment by now
A three piece spark plug. How did that get past RND ?
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Because somebody’s after and better paid than me, you, every Ford owner and mechanic said it was a great idea and should be mass produced immediately.
This is a great video. I was able to get 6 of the 8 plugs out, and the last two broke. I was able to get the 7th one out, and the 8th gave me a lot of trouble (farthest one back on the passenger side, by the firewall). I almost gave up. I tried a dewalt 12volt impact with an extension with no luck.
Here are the two things that I did, which made it successful and I hope anyone struggling will try this:
1. The sleeve that holds the extractor is loose and the extractor does not line up centered on the plug metal sleeve. To fix this, I added one rotation of electrical tape to the upper part of the extractor, which then made it line up perfectly. This really helped!
2. Even with the extractor lining up perfectly, it wouldn't bite. I tried pushing on the ratchet while turning, I tried an impact gun, etc. Then I took a ball pein hammer, and gave the extractor a few light taps. Then a few turns, then a few more light taps, and it grabbed! Do not hit the extractor very hard as you don't want to risk pushing the entire plug into the cylinder. Awesome way to have the first threads bite the metal.
3. Once my two broken plugs were extracted, I did 4-5 rounds of compressed air in each cylinder, followed by a shop vac hooked to a small clear tube that got all the way down into the cylinder head. Rotate the clear tubing around many times. Use a small shop vac, and start with the vac completely cleaned out. That way you can verify the pieces that you get out. Open and empty the shop vac after each round, and repeat the compressed air and shop vac routine until the shop vac doesn't have anything in it. This was the only way I could figure that I got all or most of the porcelain out.
I replaced the remaining two plugs, put everything back together, and it runs like a brand new truck. My truck had 138,000 miles and the plugs were original. I can't believe it even ran. It even fixed what I thought was a transmission issue on the highway at low speed on an incline. No more shutter, and the truck is much quieter now. Ford wanted $1000 labor, $400 parts, $100 per broken plug, and a potential pulling of the head.
If you have decent mechanical skill, patience, and the correct tools, you can do this job. Just plan on breaking a few and have the extractor ready!
Gus Muller reading this is going to help me this weekend. I am doing a whole tune up on this vehicle and watch is his other video on the removal gave me 2nd thoughts on doing it.
Once you have the OEM plugs out do you replace with the same flawed designed plugs or are they new ones designed better?
@@stevenweede7184 04-08 engines are going to take same design flawed plug.
The extraction tool comes with a "porcelain pusher" for shoving the porcelain down further into ground tube. This is likely why your extractor didn't grab.
Thanks for the tips!!!!
After breaking 3 spark plugs this video REALLY HELPED ME FIX the problem myself. THANK YOU
This is an excellent instruction video on the usage of the Lisle style broken plug removal tool... from a guy who's done a lot of them. Be sure to see his other updated video on the removal of unbroken said plugs by heating the engine RIGHT UP to operating temperature. FTM, you are an invaluable TH-cam resource when I am working on Fords. THANK YOU!
Changed coils and plugs in my 2006 Ford F150 5.4L this weekend. Had one plug bust on me. Used this tool per your directions and it worked perfect...thanks.
AWESOME!!!!! thanks a million brother! was already shittin it cause i have a triton with this exact problem ... called my Snap-on dealer and he had it in stock... saved me out a jam thanks to this vid!
I changed mine a couple of months ago. Warmed up the engine for a few minutes then sprayed each plug with pb blaster and let it sit for about half an hour. I used a 3/8” socket wrench since I don’t have an impact wrench. 4 of the plugs broke and I initially used the extractor tool that they rent out at oreilley’s. It worked very poorly, and didn’t extract any of them. Bought the lisle tool and it worked really well. Make sure you have an air compressor to blow out any broken porcelain or metal shaving before extracting. It really sucked and I’m not really that knowledgeable when it comes to working on cars or trucks, but I’m glad I did it on my own instead of taking it to the dealership
i too am a ford certified tech. i worked at the dealer for 5 years. i am now a diesel fleet ambulance mechanic. you've prolly heard about the 3/8 th inch impact being used to remove these plugs. ive done countless 3v tune ups this way and i havent had one break off. be sure to push down on the impact while you loosen them up.
Yes my other video in this series shows the removal with the impact like you said. I like it for this engine it seems to works.
Thanks for the help! 2006 Mustang GT with 30k miles. Figured I would pull the plugs hoping none would break with the low miles, but they have been in there for 9 years LOL. Anyways, 4 came out no problem, 4 broke. I borrowed this tool from a friend and watched your video to figure out how to use it. With the tool and your instructions the broken plugs came out just fine. Really pretty easy to use too. Thanks for the help!!
THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT TUTORIAL FROM A FORD EXPERT! Now that I know what is involved....I will let my Ford Tech expert handle it.
Haven’t tried the procedure yet, but confidence level is very high. A thought about porcelain chips. If you have a fairly nice shop vac, my thought is to adapt down to a hose that will fit down into the cylinder and suck out what you can first. In addition prior to even trying to extract the plugs, blow off the entire area first. No need to get debris into the well in the beginning. There’s also a procedure to use a large amount of carb cleaner before attempting removal. It worked on 6 out of the 8, and the two that broke were in the front of the engine as opposed to back against the fire wall. Very much worth the effort to possibly get a few easy to get to extractions as opposed to the nightmare ones. Ask any dentist.
I started research this with intentions to buy 5.4 truck, this vid was great, reminded me so much of the last Ford I had, I'm not going to buy the truck with 101 thousand on it.
this is the most stressful thing I have ever watched I hope I never have to do it
+Nathan Fitzer Some can be yes.
Nathan Fitzer Just don t buy FORD'S AND KEEP IT BASIC GM PRODUCTS CASE CLOSED NO NIGHT MARES AGAIN .
@@alfredquintero4421 I had a Chevy Venture that was a HUGE NIGHTMARE to try and change the plugs on. To get to the back plugs you had to remove the damn engine mounts and roll the engine forward. Then of course the plug wires tore to shit and needed to be replaced because god forbid you could reuse them. Don't think Chevy/GM is easy. those bastards are just as bad or even worse than Ford. Most of Ford parts are just bolt on/off without having to disassemble half the damn motor
@@alfredquintero4421 Chevys suck. Just stop. I would rather deal with Ford then government bailout GM. My buddy has a GMC vortex max, had the transfer case and transmission go out and it's under 80 thousand miles. Biggest pieces of crap you can buy.
Jorgeothejungle Sounds like your body does nt know how to drive a truck , and probaly why everyone see 's more Fords !! , NEW AND OLD FOUND DEAD ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD !! . JUST KEEPING IT REAL !!! .
Thee most famous Ford 3valve spark plug extractor video, best video😏
Awesome video, thanks for posting. I've got the confidence now to replace the plugs on my 4.6 3v knowing that if I have a break I can remedy without calling in someone who's eager to take few hundred dollars from me. Your video's are great man, thank you.
I'm a auto tech also. Worked for Ford 8 years and 16 years at small shops. Just did my spark plugs on my 05 Mustang and I broke cyld 1 and cyld 5. Used my Matco extract tool to get them out. Now the question from tech to tech. I heard that using a impact does a better job in removing these type plugs. Just want to know your professional opinion about that. Seems to be a over kill in getting these fragile spark plugs out. But they say the constant motion keeps them from breaking. How do you feel about that and have you ever used this technique? Thanks for a great video....
impact is a good technique...
with the engine hot though.
I use that technique with 18v 1/2 1400 matco impact long time ago in a local junkyard a lot of times..for sure this thing work!!
Yup. That technic it works just fine. Believe me..
Great detail on extraction! To the point with no enless rambling😁
Wish me luck!
This worked like a charm!!!
Thank you so much for demonstrating it!!!
My mustang has over 150k with the original spark plugs... whoops.
I tried the seafoam and overnight soak method and I got 6 out without a break but two decided they wanted to cost me $100 for the tool.
Thank you for this video!!! The step by step instructions and camera angles are PERFECT! Fingers crossed they come out as well as the one in the video does!
O h they should the 4.6l 3v are never as hard as the 5.4l 3v. The tool is on amazon for like $65.
4 came out whole and 4 cracked. The tool worked perfectly along with your instructions. I would NOT have tightened them nearly enough if you didn't cite the cracking and awful sounds being a good thing in this case. Thanks again sir!
Good to hear
I did this exact procedure and it worked beautifully. Thanks for making the video. Tip for anyone planning on doing this. You need 3/4, 11mm, 15/16, and a 16mm socket to do this job.
Francisco Gallegos thanks man !
I'm pretty sure you also need a 7mm socket for the coil bolt.
Francisco Gallegos and a bottle of jack
@@jima3129 bmws r junk.
About how much time does it take to extract a spark plug?
Thanks so much for making your terrific video. I did just exactly as you described and was all set for a harrowing day. All went well! I did discover that in late 2008 Ford finally made a correction and made heads for the 5.4 V8 Triton motor that accepts regular "normal" type spark plugs. You can tell what kind of plugs are in your truck by the color of the coil plug boot. If the boots are black, then you're going you have the achy breaky spark plugs. If the boots are brown you should have the new head design normal type spark pugs. Thanks again for taking the time to make your terrific video!!
thk for posting this video, it really helped get me over the sounds that make me cringe.
I realize this post is old but I just took my plugs out (06 mustang GT) 2nd owner, never been changed. 4 broke, 2 each bank. Gonna buy the tool in the next couple days and give it a shot. I went ahead and installed comp motha thumpr cams while I was at it.lol...wish me luck.
How did it go?
I want to thank you for this video. I was ready to pull the heads on my 5.4 when I saw this video. Bought the lisle tool and in 2 hours had 7 of the 8 tips pulled out. 1 plug came out complete. Thanks again! If you're ever in my area beer is on me!
Why am I covering my eyes every time you blow out debris out of the cylinder. Awesome video though bro! 👍
🤣 i squinted my eyes 🤣😂🤣😂
This is making me extremely nervous to change my spark plugs
Dom's Car Reviews you should be lol
@Ken Elliott Dude. Shhh. With crush gasket, 1/2 to 2/3 turn after finger tight. Without crush gasket, 1/4 to 1/3 turn after finger tight. THESE SPARK PLUGS ARE IN A DEEP TUBE, you're not putting them in without a damned socket on em as well as an extension...Unless you got damned fingers like an anteaters tongue.
Joe Lewis he means get the threads started by hand with the extension don’t have it on the ratchet
@@bryandowling8524 yeah that's what i mean
@Ken Elliott also bro, on the '04-'08 triton 5.4l 3valve engine, THIS IS NORMAL, it's a poor design that Ford's acknowledged and fixed for late model 08-14 engines. IN FACT, this 04-08 design was meant to fix the 5.4 2v problem of too few threads and too thin head deck which caused the 2v to shoot plugs out of the head if thread's got damaged, and or late life 300k mi engines that have had 30 sets of plugs through them...!
Great video! I have wanted to buy an older F-150 but have been hesitant since they have a reputation for broken spark plugs. I think I'm up for the challenge
i just did mine,its an 07 89k and i had that hesitation under acceleration,bought the tool at napa for 80 bucks,what i did is had the engine warm up,took the coils out,spray every hole with PB blaster and used the 3/8 gun,none broke,they came out easy,took the tool back to napa for refund,but anyways great video,thanks a lot.
+abasolo63 Was it a bad plug causing the problem? or coil? My f150 is having the same issue right now
+Luca Bandinu it was a bad plug,i am pretty sure yours has the same problem as this is a common problem on this kind of engine
Okay thank you. Was your engine light ever on or flashing when it was misfiring? Mine has popped on once when it did it and flashed for a couple seconds but it no longer comes on when it happens
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+Luca Bandinu no,light came on like yours,then it went off,but it was not on when it happened.
I found the bad plug! Thank you for the responses, I appreciate it!!
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Great video, with good slow details on the process. The engine is great, but this whole long plug into the cylinder head was a major design flaw.
Of course I was thinking why couldn't you vacuum the porcelain out of the cylinder?
I use a shop vac with a small piece of clear tubing taped to the hose, then stick it in the cylinder to remove any small porcelain pieces, thought I'd share! Nice video!
1bbpracing Yup always a good idea.
That's exactly what I was thinking when he started blowing out the inside of the cylinder. Should be able to vacuum out the small loose debris fairly easy. Good video though. He did a good job overall.
auto body guy
Im glad i read your comment because that is exactly what I ended up doing. Thanks!!
I would do both actually. Use the long-reach blow gun but have the vac hose right over the hole. The blow gun has more pressure so it will dislodge things that the vac will not, but then the vac is right there to grab the debris
Wow... Glad I saw this before tuning my F150. Great descriptive video.
Appreciate all of your videos on youtube, they are by far some of the best out there. In regards to the extraction of the tip, should a person still consider a shot of two of carb cleaner to loosen things up before extraction?
excellent video, you really due a greatservivcet o the repair community,watched your rear hub bearing vid, helped me out much thanks
O. M. G. This was an experience. 06 Mustang GT...4 came out fine, 4 broke. Tried the kit with the glue and pins first, for 2 days, JUNK!!! Was freaking out. This video saved us! Got this Lisle kit and followed your video, they came right out! Was concerned about the ground strap breaking and pieces falling, realized it just stretched and popped the corner, no pieces! THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN! You really saved us! We have 2 Mustangs....one more to go, so....Thanks thanks thanks! Lifesaver! Like really, Thanks! 👍👏👍👏👍👏😁😁😁
Changed mine today one broke but easy extraction, for 190 thousand miles on it the plugs were carbon free and looked like new...changed the coils while I was at it , the 2005 has another couple hundred thousand left in her...
Did you use an impact wrench to extract or a socket wrench?
Useful to see, mine has just left the bottom metal part of the plug on 1 cylinder, I was so careful taking them out, didn't even feel it breaking, felt just like the others. I've heard there's an updated plug for these that's one piece of metal?
First and foremost, Thank you for this amazing video! I have a 06 mustang GT ~130K miles, no idea when the plugs were last changed so I went into this expecting to break some. I took all precautions, PB Blaster overnight and a really gentle approach. I broke 5 of 8. 1 broke as expected in this video, 4 of them the nut and thread portion broke off leaving the porcelin and electrode fully intact. With the new version of the lisle tool I was able to get the porcelin out of 2 nice and clean. On the 2 remaining the electrode broke off and the porcelin is still fully intact. I am assuming that now I need to start smashing away at the porcelin to get it to the "normal" broken state. I know the electrode is broken really high up so that will be a project as well (hopefully I will be able to yank it out with pliers) but I wanted to ask here if anyone has encountered this or has any good ideas before I start smashing porcelin? Thanks!
hello did you use the 5.4 triton extraction kit? i have a 08 gt and am not see 4.6 extraction kits and was curious
Now do this 8 times.... you should be done by the end of the day.
Took me 2 hours to do 7 versus 2 days to pull heads.
Yes I just bought a 06 f150 to flip took me a 1/2 hour to get the starter out So i'm investigating the rest of my coming nightmares to look forward to Sooo Ford thought this was a grand idea not even including the million ways it leaks coolant
Thanks, will check my plugs to see if my misfire may be one of them.
Great how to video. Hoping mine doesn't give me too much grief.
Excellent video. But I find myself wondering why Ford didn't take a second to apply a little anti-seize on the plug when the engine was being assembled. Would have saved a lot of mechanics a lot of headaches down the road.
zooeyhall They will never do that on the line and at first they really didn't know it was an issue.
Always the best place for ford repair videos. Thank you. I just want to confirm that this removal tool is compatible with a 4.6 l mustang gt 3v. I wont have to buy a tool specifically for the 4.6l vs the Triton?
A lot of effort👏👏👏
I wonder why ford uses this complicated spark plug and sells special tools to supposedly get us out of trouble with this style of spark plug? Too much complication it could design with much more simplicity!🤷🏾♂️
I thought u where going to push the broken porcelain in the top of the cylinder lol.... good video.. 👍
try buying 3/8" or 1/2" tubing and hook it up to your vacuum and suck it out. I had to tape a metal fish tape to it to keep it straight. works better than expected!
Thank you so much for posting this video. Everyone has a little different way of doing this.
When I did mine I sprayed about a teaspoon of DEEP CREEP into the cylinder one at a time.
Then I waited about an hour before trying to remove it. I used an air impact wrench and just
trickle it back and forth a little at a time until it finally broke loose. At the time I did this the
truck only has 22,000 miles on it. I replaced them all and didn't break a one, knock on wood.
Then I did this again when the truck had 54,000 miles on it and replaced them all with the
second revision only to find out later there is a third revision plug. Even at 54,000 miles
number four cylinder it took me four hours to finally get it out without breaking it. Yes I
did put a good coat of anti size on all the threads when i did it the first time, so much
for the anti size.
We're all gonna be certified after all these video's lol CERTIFIED NUT CASE'S
Excellent camera work.
Any tips on how to get the spark plug off of the extractor when it comes out??
FordTechMakuloco, you are awesome and so is that tool. I broke 3 off in my Explorer. Bought the tool and had them all out in less than an hour. The truck runs like new. Thanks again.
Did you ever try running seafoam through engine for a few tanks before spark plug job to clean carbon fouling?
Might be a stupid idea I don’t know but what if you tried turning the motor over? Use the engines compression to push the broken plug out
Doesn't work.
It's threaded
I'm a chevy guy just bought my first ford in 15 years what kind of shit is this what did I get myself into
I thought the same thing. I may swap it with a diesel manu transmission or LS the real thing. They got the design right but no the reliability
Great video Mr makuloco, do you remove the center electro before push the porcelain down, or you pushes both together? Thank you and cheers from Ontario ca
This is by for the best instructional video for this ANYWHERE on the internet! Great explanation. Will I need to go buy deep sockets for this or will standard sockets work fine?
Thanks for this video. The best one on TH-cam. You gave me the encouragement and detail instructions to perform this job. I removed 8 plugs: 7 broken. These are the original plugs with 150+k miles. Truck runs smooth now and no more shuddering in OD due to misfires. Thanks so much. I watch a ton of videos and learn so much from you. Keep up the good work. I wish your business was in VA. I would surely have you service my truck.
Way to go Ford- two thumbs down!
Great video on how to deal with this boondoggle though. Thanks for the valuable info. You have undoubtedly saved viewers THOUSANDS of dollars in shop fees by knowing how to do it themselves.
Thanks! I used you link and bought the tool. I had 5 broken plugs. Thanks to your video, I pulled all of them without incident.
I sprayed mine with carb cleaner and let it soak for a little bit and luckily they all came out.
How tight does the extractor need to be screwed in? I’m doing this job tomorrow.
I cannot thank you enough for making this video may God Bless you and yours
Hello I am currently having this problem my name is Bobby how are you
So I have this problem right now and the top of the spark plug is still there I have an oem Ford Triton broken spark plug porcelain and Electrode removal set will this work the same way as the other Lyle set I am nervous about doing this job but in the middle of it right as we speak
@@robertakendrick7424 Did you ever complete the job without any issues?
Same here thankyou so much for the instructional video. Out of 8 spark plugs only one broke and it was at the front of the engine. Overall it took about 3 1/2 hours.
Great video, thank you. What happens to the threaded part of the plug, is this pulled out? Getting ready to start project, but want to understand if I also have to extract the threaded part of the plug?
This was more suspenseful than watching a horror movie.
Excellent video. Great work.
Yes Ford did have a design flaw with the spark plugs, and Ford should have some sort of recall, but there is a solution to it, keep buying new vehicles or go back to old school and pull those plugs out much earlier like 30,000 miles or 3 years problem solved. All vehicles need routine maintenance if you want reliability.
Great video! Really helped me. You da man!!!
a vacuum cleaner with homemade adapter works real good,make sure you have the Piston up if possible
How would you know where the piston is to do that though 🤔
What if you can’t get the threads to seat into the broken plug?
Motorcraft learned its lesson with these plugs and the new plugs' design was changed. I watched this great video, bought the Lisle tool for $65, and changed all 8 on my 2006 F150. The truck had 144,000 miles on it then (too much I know before a first spark plug change). Even with overnight soaking I broke 4 out of 8. The Lisle tool took care of extracting all in short order. The old plugs had normal wear indications. After I finished, I realized this is no big deal and was glad I had not paid a shop to do this job. The added time for extracting the 4 broken plugs was about an hour. Ford does have a settlement to partially reimburse those who paid big bills to get their plugs changed before 120,000 miles. Many thanks to FordTechMakuloco.
the parts houses I deal with (Oreilly's and Advance, ) sell you the extraction tool and then buy it back when through!
Great Video! Quick question, what about the broken pieces of ground strap that are now in the cylinder? Do you try to get it out or just leave it? Thanks
Wow. I think I'll start pulling my plugs once a year and coat the threads with anti-seize.
The new redesigned plugs don't have this 3 piece build and won't separate. Stripped heads are still an issue however.
James Washer stripped heads are only an issue on the 2v versions, which were due the heads only having 2 or 3 threads. They were redesigned in 2003.5 with more threads just before ford went to the 3v in 2004.
I wonder what would happen if you were to start the engine and let the compression blow the plug tip out🤔
Nothing.
I broke the white thing above the spark plug (I don't know, maybe ceramic..) and it's completely in the engine. And I worked the car and felt the engine a little shaken, so I turned it off immediately.. I think I'm scrowed
Ford's brainstorm.. I had a F150. 5.4. An a explorer 4.6. that is the end of ford's for me.. 14 of the 16 broke off.
Do you close the valves on the engines you work to make sure the pistons are in the down position? How would I go about doing it? Thanks in advance!
I'm about to change my plugs now I'm scared I guess I ordering this kid first
I tried doing it without it.. yeah. Needless to say I made a Napa run
I own a Ford F150 2004 5.4 3V with 80k as well manage to take all 7 of them with out breaking just broke one in cylinder #1 panic at first but came across your video i needed to fix right away its my work truck so did not want to wait for shipping and looked at my local auto parts the only one that carried and had it in stock was NAPA in Orange County, CA. Pick it up $80 And worked well was able to extract the tip that got stuck inside was scared at first but gave it a try and worked well thanks alot highly recommend the Leisle tool. Thanks alot for video. FordTechMakuloco
Eduardo Hernandez No problem glad to help!!
Convert back to 8 thread 2v heads... These 5.4 3vs are horrendous turds
lucian kristov actually the 2v heads only have 2 or 3 threads. That’s why they are known to shoot plugs out of the heads.
You mentioned that you broke the tool off one time. How did you get it out after that?
What kind of an imbecile would design such a thing? I've been driving cars (and changing spark plugs) for nigh onto 60 years and have never encountered this.
Did you mention the model years those plugs were used in those motors in various Ford truck and car models?
2004- 2008 mid year.
that was a very instruction video, what a crappy ford spark plug design
Happened on my Chevy. Just saying.
Thanks for taking time to do a very nice and clear vid ... good work !
Nice job man...
Changed the original motorcraft plugs on my mustang....huge mistake!! I got 6 of the 8 plugs out, 2 broke. Had to get the Lisle tool, it only got out 1 of the broken plugs, still had to go to the shop to get the last plug out.
Thanks, I saw an auto lite video on here and their tech said the engine should be cold.
Yes that is the Ford recommended way to do it to prevent thread damage, but in the real world for this particular engine it should be done warm-hot.
Great video!! I started with the EverTough 67002 removal kit rented from O'Reilly Auto Parts (had to go back for the required 67003 kit containing the consumable parts) and their approach of removing the porcelain first with a glued-in steel pin was a tremendous waste of time. I broke the glue bond twice and snapped a pin on the third attempt. And each time requiring an hour for the glue to set. I ordered this Lisle kit on Amazon with overnight delivery and it took 15 minutes to read the directions and get the broken plug out! Thanks FordTechMakuloco for illustrating how simple these tools are to use. Quick, easy and they work.
Amazing!!!! 👍👍💪💪thanx
Thank you! another great video.
Have you ever seen the electrode/grounding strap on the end of the spark plugs broken off of the old style and gone into the engine if so will it damage the cylinder or can you just replace the old spark plug with the new and call it a day. I put a magnet into my cylinder 1 hole hoping to pick it up but it seems to be gone. I hope the metal grounding part didn’t damage my valves or piston. I’ve heard some folks say theirs just blew out the exhaust. Also is the latest spark plug the sp-515 or the sp-546 I only ask because the video is so old it may have changed.
If i say what i want to do to a ford engineer TH-cam would suspend me.
Thanks FordTech! made a stressfull job a breeze!
i have a 2006 f150 with the plug broke off in the head the extractor is not working but it worked on the other ones any ideas that can help get it out
+Matt Doughty See here- th-cam.com/video/eoAxkIpHY3I/w-d-xo.html
I have an important question. I got a socket boot stuck on a new spark plug. Didn’t realize until it was pushed down around the nut. I tried picks, plastic weld in a socket, nothing. So I seen someone use jb weld in a spark plug socket. I tried that now my socket is stuck on the spark plug. It spins freely but I can’t pull it out. Not sure what do do next?
I commend you for a quality video but Fords make me puke. (I'm a Dodge guy.) No, I'm not a troll. I have a '98 f150 (it was free) with a cylinder 6 misfire that is causing me to watch this.
Ford new this was a problem in 05. Why didn’t they just redesign the plugs or if needed redesign. The heads