Thanks for the video! This is new to me so I'm learning how to tune my bike with a Power Commander 5. Just looking at the tables in a map provided to me by Feuling and FuelMoto. They are very different. My question is: Why would they have such a wild difference to tune perspective or techniques? Is it just the elevation they tune their mule for the canned map? P.S. the Feuling map is much better, but i've just ordered a Power Vision and will Auto Tune Basic, based on that map.
No idea. It all comes down to a desired AFR at various operating conditions. The tuners job is to then "turn the knobs" to get the actual AFR to match the desired AFR. If the tuner has a different POV on what ideal desired AFR's are at various operating conditions, that could explain some of it.
Hi Dan thanks for sharing your knowledge I've got a question for you What's the difference between the autotune fonction which is built-in into the powervision and this manual tuning process ? If i'de correctly understood how autotune works, it's analysing data during the run and applying correction to the VE automatically so could it be intersting to do my maps this way, by reading logs in winpep and C3 or to keep doing them with winPV and the autotune fonction ? Thanks by advance for your response
Well, the Autotune Pro feature built into the PV is essentially a 1 stop shop. It's setting up the tune in a manner that allows simple and straight forward corrections to the VE table based on the deviation between desired AFR and actual AFR measured by the Autotune wide band control module. Tune Lab in C3 is a super flexible tool that uses custom python scripts (like coding language) that are provided, or can be developed to do any sort of correction that you'd like. Technically speaking you could set up your tune in C3 to do the exact same thing that the setup process in the PV does, and then crunch the data after the fact in Tune Lab. If tune lab scares you, a guy could simply write a custom channel in WinPEP 8, it's a lot more straightforward and easier to use for non-programmer types compared to Tune Lab. Sounds like creating a video on custom channels might be my next production.
Saw in the table "HEXVIEW",can you explain what i can see, can i see here the raw data like in WinOls? And how can i got this feature, in my C3 Soft and on a sportster file now HEXVIEW are not displayed
Yes can read the ecu with Autotuner and open it with WinOls. So I do car ecu's, but with bikes I don't have knowledge at the moment, for that i buyed a powervision now
Hello Danojet I have a problem with my power vision log, when I transfer the file to the computer and I open it in winpep8 I can't see the channels, it only shows signal, value and time , it doesn't show other items like afr, volts and etc... could you help me. thanks.
You can send me the log. DynoDanTuning@gmail.com Was the log generated from a PV with current, or relatively current firmware? Also using the latest version PCSS ?
Likely April. You can import your logs into PCSS right now, but there are a couple of steps to compete this. When the PV4 log format changes to .WP8 you can simply drag and drop, or open …… easy.
PV4 now saves log files as a .WP8 file type. This has been available for a few months now. You simply open the log file in WinPEP8 Data Analysis and pick the channel for the X and Y axis to display the data.
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Thanks for the video! This is new to me so I'm learning how to tune my bike with a Power Commander 5. Just looking at the tables in a map provided to me by Feuling and FuelMoto. They are very different. My question is: Why would they have such a wild difference to tune perspective or techniques? Is it just the elevation they tune their mule for the canned map?
P.S. the Feuling map is much better, but i've just ordered a Power Vision and will Auto Tune Basic, based on that map.
No idea. It all comes down to a desired AFR at various operating conditions. The tuners job is to then "turn the knobs" to get the actual AFR to match the desired AFR. If the tuner has a different POV on what ideal desired AFR's are at various operating conditions, that could explain some of it.
Thanks for the explanation. Keep up the good work!
Hi Dan thanks for sharing your knowledge
I've got a question for you
What's the difference between the autotune fonction which is built-in into the powervision and this manual tuning process ?
If i'de correctly understood how autotune works, it's analysing data during the run and applying correction to the VE automatically so could it be intersting to do my maps this way, by reading logs in winpep and C3 or to keep doing them with winPV and the autotune fonction ?
Thanks by advance for your response
Well, the Autotune Pro feature built into the PV is essentially a 1 stop shop. It's setting up the tune in a manner that allows simple and straight forward corrections to the VE table based on the deviation between desired AFR and actual AFR measured by the Autotune wide band control module. Tune Lab in C3 is a super flexible tool that uses custom python scripts (like coding language) that are provided, or can be developed to do any sort of correction that you'd like. Technically speaking you could set up your tune in C3 to do the exact same thing that the setup process in the PV does, and then crunch the data after the fact in Tune Lab. If tune lab scares you, a guy could simply write a custom channel in WinPEP 8, it's a lot more straightforward and easier to use for non-programmer types compared to Tune Lab. Sounds like creating a video on custom channels might be my next production.
Saw in the table "HEXVIEW",can you explain what i can see, can i see here the raw data like in WinOls? And how can i got this feature, in my C3 Soft and on a sportster file now HEXVIEW are not displayed
That is a developer only feature. If you can get your hands on a raw bin you could always open that in any old hex editor.
Yes can read the ecu with Autotuner and open it with WinOls. So I do car ecu's, but with bikes I don't have knowledge at the moment, for that i buyed a powervision now
Very Good. The Autotuner device is a nice tool.
Hello Danojet
I have a problem with my power vision log, when I transfer the file to the computer and I open it in winpep8 I can't see the channels, it only shows signal, value and time , it doesn't show other items like afr, volts and etc... could you help me. thanks.
You can send me the log. DynoDanTuning@gmail.com
Was the log generated from a PV with current, or relatively current firmware? Also using the latest version PCSS ?
When do you guys expect the pv4 logs to work?
Likely April. You can import your logs into PCSS right now, but there are a couple of steps to compete this. When the PV4 log format changes to .WP8 you can simply drag and drop, or open …… easy.
@@ThePowerFarm I try to open logs from PV4 and doesnt show anything on the graphs. Im doing something wrong or still not compatible?
PV4 now saves log files as a .WP8 file type. This has been available for a few months now. You simply open the log file in WinPEP8 Data Analysis and pick the channel for the X and Y axis to display the data.