Picked up a 2022 GT1 AWD a few weeks ago. Absolutely love it. They thankfully added an active exhaust for the refresh. In sport mode it's a lot louder, but not obnoxious which I like.
i don't think you understand what a "dream car" is unless you really set your sights that low. a dream car is supposed to be a car that is out of your reach, like a "dream". personally my dream car is the Durango Hellcat. but as far as attainable cars for myself the stinger is one of those choices.
@@maximusgladi8or you just bashed on someone because your two ideas of dream cars don’t match but your so called “dream car” is only $10k more than my brothers first car and over $50,000 less than my dads Panamera. With that being said neither of them have their dream car and price has nothing to do with not getting their dream car. You can put a price on a dream, the main thing about a “dream car” is the effect the car puts on somebody, not how far out of reach that by-product is. With that being said, a Stinger isn’t a bad dream car.
@UCH1AN1Rzm1YPju9pWUUfddQ hey m0ron, Durango hellcats are very attainable, cuz ur sights are too low, your dream car should be a flying pegasus ultrasound yellow jacket F-15 fighter jet double decker mega super battlefield tank. It’s a dream after all 🤡
I’m picking up my 2022 g70 in two days. Same power train as the Stinger. I went with the g70 because of the weight difference and complimentary service with free loaner for all service. I’m in Toronto and my dealer gave me the keys and let me test drive on my own! The car blew me away in terms of power and handling. Previous fun car...2016 golf R. Will update on the Genesis experience as time goes by! ✌️
I traded in my 2022 g70 for a 2023 because in the first 10000 Kms the car would regularly go into limp mode. As in no turbos and felt like the power of a 2 cylinder. Dealership said it is an issue but no real fix to it?!? So I thought maybe it’s a one-off! The 2023 started doing the same thing after only 1 thousand kms ffs. So I traded it in at 4.5k kms and that’s the end of my relationship with Genesis. On to something more reliable unfortunately! When working properly I loved the car tho just hated going to the dealership every month or so with no fix to the problem!
Eibach front and rear sway bars made handling SOOO much better!!! It’s extremely responsive, smooth, and way less lean into corners. Best mod I’ve done so far. I have both settings, set to hard.
Love my GT1! Kia dealerships just had the honor of being rock bottom on JD Power's quality survey of 16 mass-market car dealerships. That reflects my experience with my Kia dealership.
My dealer Actually did great with my brakes. At 2500 miles, they resurfaced my rotors. Still had an issue, at 7500 miles they gave me the euro Stinger spec brake pads and rotors free of charge. Also, that guy that set the 1/4 record is in the stinger group that I run 😎
Wish i had your dealer haha. Probably going to start going to a bigger dealership thats farther away. The most annoying thing about this is that KIA hasn’t officially acknowledged this with a recall program. Glad to hear you got yours fixed though.
@@JulianWithAnX haha my dealer sucks with most stuff, but they acknowledged this as an issue because they sell more stingers than any other dealer group in the state. I think a lot of their reason for not recalling this issue is because it’s not necessarily a safety issue. The car still brakes fine with vibrations. My question is why they haven’t upgraded the brakes yet
Hate to say this, but we're never going to be able to have the car remember the settings you mentioned, due to the claimed fuel economy and safety concerns. For example, the reason why you have to manually disable the auto start/stop feature every time you start the car is that with it enabled, Kia can claim certain fuel economy numbers; if you could "permanently" have the auto/start stop feature turned off, Kia would no longer be able to make the claimed fuel economy they currently do. That's why I'm sure you also probably noticed that the car will not stay in Smart, Custom, or Sport drive modes after you turn the car off, but will remember if you were in Eco or Comfort drive modes after you turn the car off -- again, that is due to the claims they make about fuel economy. Other settings you mentioned that don't save I'm sure are because of safety concerns. I own a GT2 as well, and I know it's annoying, but it's something we all will just have to deal with unfortunately.
I remember as a 20-year old I went to the Acura dealer just to look and this young kid begged me to take an NSX on a test drive, I was l was like no way am I going to buy that I can't even afford it, he didn't care and begged me, I finally said yes and man that thing was fast, like ultra fast, he got in and nearly wrecked it, I respected the break-in as I knew it wasn't going to be my car and that kid just tore the shit out of it with only 12 miles on it.
Dealer service has been less than stellar at two of our local dealers (we've bought vehicles off two separate dealers over the years). It was almost bad enough to make us walk on buying our sixth Kia (our Stinger GT) a few months back. They make great cars - I just wish they'd bring their service level up to par.
Contact Kia direct if your experience with the dealer is not what you expect. Kia corporate has been great to work with and directs the dealership from the top.
@@jasonfarruggia9113 I did that - got nowhere. Corp sent the dealer an email that went unresponded. That was the extent of their involvement. They've lost my loyalty.
@@SilentKnight43 I've had the opposite experience when getting Kia corporate involved. I've even had them warranty things that by the written warranty shouldn't have been.
Just picked up a 2023 GT2 AWD Grand Tourer edition with 26 miles on it and I love it!! Got a full ceramic pro satin wrap and the thing looks so sick! The engine is still in its break-in phase though so I haven't been able to drive it the way I want to yet lol..... actually I've probably been a bit too rough on the brand new engine up until about 190 miles because I didn't realize new engines needed to be broken in lol. I'm on the fence about getting a JB4 tune but it's just so tempting I might pull the trigger.
Good review; pros/cons very informative. I was looking to buy the Audi S5 Sportback. Really like that car but for $15K less the value is heavily in favor of the Stinger, which looks great & has more horses under the hood. As for Audi, nice cars but the dreaded "Check Engine" light really gets old.
My stinger GT2 is the best car I have ever had. A perfect balance of performance, design, and practicality. 2023 has been discontinued. This car change the way Kia is perceived. Unfortunately, Kia Dealers' service is horrible. We will miss this car.
Excellent video, love my Stinger as well. Agree with everything you said 100%, especially about the dealer experience. Hyundai at least has the Genesis brand and dealers to answer questions but if you buy a Stinger, your post-purchase experience is bound to be dogshit. Here in Vancouver they don't even bother answering phones at the dealerships. Also I'd add that the gear shifter is god awful and leaves you in Neutral when you're trying to go from D to R quickly. Yours sounds great, I have a Borla exhaust in the mail, hopefully I like it!
Yea its a little annoying. I think kia focused a little too much in bringing the engineers over from premium brands but not any of the customer service experts.Maybe with time theyll get better but that doesnt really do much for me now. I went in last week for an oil change and the guy goes “someone will be with u” and i waited like 15 mins for someone to check me in while there was literally not one other person there. Idk leaves kind of a bad taste in my mouth.
Dude I have the reverse to drive to reverse neutral issue pretty often, like 1/5 times maybe. It's super annoying - you've got to be very deliberate and slow with her.
I have a 2018 GT2 and I love it. I put on Ark Performance anti-sway bars, and I replaced the stock rotors with Brembo rotors and EBC Redstuff pads and I have not had any vibration problems since. Many people still don't know what the Stinger is, so I often receive comments on the looks or questions about the make of the car. Overall, this care elicits a lot of curiosity from people which shows just how badly Kia advertised this car.
Hi , so you had this car since 2018 how many miles until now and what the biggest issue you faced during this period of time, What about the quality and reliability of this car Thanks
It holds about 16 gals which is the same as a bunch of other sedans. I think it just burns through gas way too quick. Similar engined cars get a little more mpg then the s as stinger, wonder why that is.
If you never brake hard in the stinger you'll probably never have the pad issue. I'm at 34k miles and I usually let the engine do the braking for me. I take off fast in the car but I always let the car slow down on it's own and then use the brakes a little at the end to stop. I'm doing mostly small town driving though. In sport mode you can almost do 1 pedal driving since the trans is always in a lower gear and shifts down faster. That said, I just bought some slotted and drilled rotors and some stoptech pads for all 4 corners. I have never had the brake issue but it appears that almost everyone with a stinger does. If you take the car to a road course you need to swap the pads and fluid at a minimum or you'll end up having a bad day.
I paid 43k out the door for my gt1. And that is buying it and not leasing it. I also have a 100k bumper to bumper warranty standard. Not all kia delearships are the same. I have a great local kia dealership.
How did you pull that one off? I'm looking into the GT1 but my haggling abilities are terrible.. is there a place you found discounts or any kind of secrets you're willing to share? thanks in advance
@@MikeyTripz well to be honest I bought my 2020 kia stinger GT1 last year, before this vehicle shortage started. My wife also has a matching kia stinger, but it is the indigo special edition. We recently went for an oil change and they offered to buy both of our cars back for more than what we paid for them. I don't think you will find a good vehicle deal anytime soon until this computer chip issue mess is straightened out to be honest. And kia gave both of us 0% interest for the life of the loan which has been awesome.
@@Kira-qc4qi Not sure my car only had 5K miles when Kia (Dan O'Brien norwood ma) replaced the brakes for free. I'd guess 21K is going to depend on your arguing skills :)
Great Vid. Thanks for this before my buy. I think I will make sure to purchase from a larger kia dealer and research of them in my area which sells the most stingers.
You dealing with the dealership down by Kings Plaza? I tried calling them a few times to set up oil changes & once to get a tire replaced & the people I deal with are complete scumbags.. I live in Bklyn & I drive all the way out to the Freehold NJ dealership, they're much easier to deal with out there.
Nah ive never used them but based on their reviews on google they seem terrible lol. Autoworld has some better reviews and theyve been good to me so far. Theyre in east medow, might be closer then going to nj
Do you still have the car now? I'm torn between the gt1 and gt2. Seen that really the gt2 has heads up display and surround view which is nice but not needed.
I actually sold it a while back but the feature i miss most from gt2 was the sound system lol. Not sure if gt1s have it now but it was really good in the gt2 i had
I think it's certain dealership that doesn't have good service. I own a kia optima and they take care of my car. Just try to find a dealership that can give you good service.
So did you lease the car or buy it? You say you got like $10k off the car...That's not a purchase price. Leasing is totally different and saying you got $10k off is kinda misleading when it comes to leasing.
I love this video man !!! Definitely went into detail on the car greatly and I’ve watched a ton of videos on it. I’m looking into buying a Kia stinger with the V6 I don’t necessarily know which model year to go for or what options are a must have so I was wondering what you would decide ? Also all I’ve been hearing is the the exhaust is terribly quiet so ik I’m going to be doing an after market exhaust nothing crazy with a bunch or crackles and pops but something I can hear when I put my foot down. What would you suggest ?
What year is your stinger? Trying to figure out what features are possible on the '18 and '19 GT/GT1/GT2's and saw a few on your list during the vid I hadn't seen before. Thanks man!
10 year powertrain is standard in the US. Other places get a 7 year power train I believe. And they didnt really try to sell me anything extra. Think that’s because i went in knowing what i wanted and they kind of picked up on it.
Great review. Thanks for sharing your candid opinions...good, bad and the ugly (or slightly unattractive). I'm sked for a test drive this Thursday! Thanks again.
for the issue of the brakes couldn't you just add a high quality brake from the jump so it wouldn't have that? as far as the roll goes during turning I'd just add sway bars. I'm thinking of getting this over an ISF just cause I'd rather wreck a Kia over a Lexus lol.
The dealership experience, weight and resale value is what's sorta stopping me from getting this car. Like I've heard of dealership techs crashing people's cars and ruining sideskirts, etc. Also what did you do concerning the weight? Once the new civic type r comes out I'll probably make up my mind. They're 2 different cars but I don't mind either haha
Yea man it’s definitely something to consider. Personally if i didnt get the lease rebate then im not sure if i would have went down this route. You can lease germans (m340 or c43) for around what the non rebate lease cost on the stinger is and get maintenance included and a way better service. Although ive found a good dealership so its not that big of a problem anymore for me.
The new blacked out scorpion looks clean . If genesis offered the same incentives as kia id probably be in a g70 just for the weight savings and handling characteristics alone. Definitely drive both.
Thanks for the quick response. Maybe I will get the genesis over the stinger a little better performance, interior and service overall with a complimentary maintenance for 3 years or 36000 miles.
Before getting my GT2 I also looked at a G70 and test drove both. G70 is nice, but not as roomy and feels more crammed than the Stinger, the back seats of the G70 are definitely smaller and not as good for adults in the back, and the Stinger's hatch makes it much more of a practical car. That, along with a killer deal I got on my GT2, and that's why I ultimately went with the Stinger.
Sadly the nearest genesis dealer near me is about 1 hr away. The only other place that sells g70s are hyundai dealerships. Ive managed to find a kia dealership not too far thats been good to work with though.
I've test driven several of these now and like the car quite a bit. I do have several concerns, enough to dissuade me from buying it entirely. 1) Past kia experience - had a 2011 optima sux. Had massive issues with the car tracking straight. In the shop over a dozen times for alignments, tires, toe bolts and other. In the end I took the loss and unloaded it. What a turd that car was/is. 2) Kia dealer experience - Maybe someone can point me to a competent dealer service shop in the chicago area. 3) DIY. - This car is not very friendly in that regard. No designated front/rear jacking points. Even a cheap honda civic has this. I do most/all of my own maintenance. Getting the car safely onto jack stands should not be rocket science. 4) Plastic components for oil changes?!@# How long is that filter cap and housing going to last over the life of the car. How easy is it to replace the housing? Why is it plastic? 5) And this is the real deal breaker. No RWD models in the midwest area. I need to travel some states south to get one or special order.
The biggest annoyance is the arm rest. They used really thin leather and You can hear rattles when opening it or putting pressure on it. Cant recall any other rattles from the top of my head. There is a rear hatch rattle that happens to some cars but i haven’t experienced it yet after 11k miles and the fix is adding a couple of washers. Theres some rattles with the dash cam wires i have wired through the b pillars but thats not a kia fault.
It can vary from Stinger to Stinger. I wouldn't say it's "cheap" assembly, but you're not getting the same quality control like Lexus, for example. I had some mild rattling from the hatch, which was easily fixed. Also some popping noise from the front headliner area (that would get worse the warmer it was outside) -- ended up being the adhesive making the noise because the adhesive on the headliner wasn't fully adhered on some parts of the headliner to the body. Thank god it was finally diagnosed and fixed by one dealership's service department. Unfortunately I do still have an issue with rattling coming from the large sunroof when it's closed (check the forums, as other people have had a similar issue), which I have had since I purchased the care new. Two dealerships were able to get the noise stopped or reduced, but only for a few weeks and then it came back both times. Currently have an ongoing case with Kia's Consumer Assistance Center. It's not like crazy loud or anything, but still can be a bit annoying. I wouldn't say I have any "creaks" in the cabin though. Overall though the car is an absolute blast to drive.
Hello thinking about buying a kia stinger but I am a aggressive driver do I have to slow down a lot for speed bumps because it seems like the car is really low?
Its not super low. Should definitely slow down for speed bumps lol. Unless you mean imperfections on the road like potholes. Ive hit a few and never scraped.
Great video, I am looking to purchase a stinger ASAP . During these COVID & chip shortage crazy times. Believe me LOL I am aware that this is the worst time to buy vehicle, I especially pre owned . I live in upstate New York so you guys know a great dealership from Rochester to Albany? Or anywhere in NY or NE states that offer the best pricing on a new stinger , or again how to get them huge deals on top end units? Thanks to all of you in advance I hope to hear back from you
$560 a month for 10k a year on a 2 year lease. The miles don’t matter for me because I’m going to be buying it out at the end anyway, the only way to get the lease cash was to do the two year lease.
@@zmarg07 i was going to initially. Figured that theres a small chance i dont want the car in two years. Tbh even of i dont want to keep it I’ll probably buyout and sell as my buyout is a few grand less then what 2 year okd stimgers go for. Probably make some money back. But immediate buyout is a good choice too.
Hey dude, great video i subbed. I’ve been looking at this car for the past year and I really want it as my next vehicle. What was your previous vehicle? I’m riding in a 10th gen civic with a 2.0L and it has about 175 hp, it’s not fast what so ever but I have fun in it sometimes. Is the power in the stinger enough to continually have fun in? I know going from 175hp to 365hp is more than double but I want to make sure it’s enough to not disappoint. I wouldn’t keep it stock, I see FBO stingers doing 0-60 in 3.5 and 1/4 mile in the 11s range which is pretty nuts. The used stinger market in Canada right now is crazy IMO, you can find stingers with 35,000 km (22k miles) for around $35k ($29k USD) I also just want to know your opinion on going with used is.
I think stock this car is perfect for having fun and not getting arrested lol. With a tune i catch myself doing 120 almost by accident sometimes. Thats only on map 2 on jb4 and there room for some power still. I came from a 2014 accord 4 cylinder so the power jump was pretty great. I remember flooring it the first time at the dealership and getting that feeling in my stomach. As for used these cars are a great value used. Not sure what the warranty is like in Canada but in the states a used cpo stinger still gets u the 10 year warranty. Used definitely is a good value. I personally went with new bc of the $9000 lease cash on top of a $2000 msrp drop. One thing to note is that you will notice the weight lol. I remember realizing how light my old accord felt. Overall though I think youll enjoy the power bump lol. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@JulianWithAnX awesome thanks for the reply. Do you plan on buying out after the lease? Also have you thought about getting the refreshed 2022 version? I’m not sure if I like the older oval-ish taillights or the newer ones more
@@speedtab215 I'm in the exact same position as you, been looking for a used one in Canada for months now in the same mileage/price range. Finding one with the right trim level and colour is a real issue right now lol
I owned a 2019 GT2 AWD for a year and a half and sold it after putting 6k miles on it. It was decent but I didn't love it. My list has a lot more cons than Julian's.
Not the greatest lol. Depends on how i drive but i live in nyc and my lifetime average is 16mpg. Highways i can get up to like 26-28. City driving is anywhere 15-18mpg. Typically drive in sport with auto on-off engine turned off so i could probably get some more but i dont really care for the extra mpg. I get about 280-310 mils per fill up.
I'll be honest, it's poor taste for a dealer to throw hurdles in the way of test driving something you plan on owning. At the same time I get it, they don't want people to "hot rod" the car before someone buys it.
@@JulianWithAnX The dealership that I bought my Stinger GT2 from started doing credit checks before test driving the Stinger because people were coming in for a 'test drive' and they had no intention of buying the car only wanted to see if the rumor's were true. The day that I mileage that was put on the car and some light damage from "test driving" In my opinion doing a credit check to avoid any extra wear and tear or possible damage on ANY car is not an Extra Step. If you were serious about buying that's one step done. Let's be honest if you cant pass the credit check you are not leaving the lot with ANY car.
I have another video on the mods i have installed. Pretty much a jb4, intakes and muffler delete will get you a lot if horsepower and none of those are terribly expensive.
another question for ya. seen u using the stinger forums. they recommended to use autobytel to find out lease incentives. im from jersey but was still curious if ur dealer let u stack the bonus cash rebate as well as the customer cash rebate?
Im pretty sure i did stack although im not too sure. There was a $2000 discount they were advertising and then i added the lease incentive on top. Although i just had them punch the numbers in i didnt use autobytel.
I believe the warranty on the brakes is 12k miles or 1 year. Unless they replaced them within those limits then you’re most likely out of luck. I contacted corporate and started a case before i passed 1 year so that there was proof that the issue happened within warranty.
I bought my 2019 GT2 new in July 2020 with about 110 miles on it. Had vibrations when braking immediately after purchasing. At first the dealership I bought it from said there was probably some buildup on it, and it would wear off as I drove. It didn't, and so the rotors had to get turned immediately after purchasing. No joke. They seem alright so far, at almost 6k miles. What was also a pain in the ass was that the dealership that I took it to to get the rotors turned didn't jack up the car in the right place on one side, and ruined the side skirt, causing them to have to buy a whole new one and paint and install it.
@@JulianWithAnX Yea, it sucked. And the service department there is horrendous. A new auto group just took it over not long before I took the car in, and from the reviews I've seen, the service used to be pretty decent under the old auto group, but this new one sucks. It's a dealership in Los Angeles.
The features of the Stinger are just like my BMW e60 530i and there is only 1cm difference in length. The 530i has cost me around $17,000 AUD in repairs over seven years. I can't wait to get the Stinger and its 7 year warranty.
@@BigD4562 havent said anything yet. I usually take my jb4 off and go in with my intakes on and they havent said anything yet. Generally mods won’t matter until you need warranty work and i havent needed anything yet (besides brakes).
I do have another video showcasing the mods i have. The $1000 refers to a jb4 ($500) muffler delete ($100 probably) and intakes ($400-500). The jb4 is probably the best in terms of gains.
How has the gas mileage been after your mods? I'm really stuck between the 2022 GT2 with everything (since you can't add anything to the new 2.5t features wise) and just going with the Sonata N-line which will be better on gas, lighter, better handling...but likely not as much aftermarket tuning support Upgrading from a 2013 Sonata 2.0t I've tuned to about 350 crank HP
Gas mileage is the same give or take 1 mpg. I personally havent noticed a difference but some people on the forums do report increased mpg. Tbh though if gas is a big concern id probably look elsewhere. I get 16mpg city on a good day and 24-26 highway. As much as i love this car I reminisce about the days of 40mpg on my old accord lol.
I just subscribed your channel right away. I’m gonna buy stinger in the next year, so i’ve always watched review or POV like this..anyhow if you have insta account with your car, i wanna follow or just watching. Please keep going with the video :)
I appreciate the sub! Sadly i dont have a car specific insta (yet) but ill be uploading more stinger stuff every now and then. If you have any questions about the buying process or anything else just lmk ill be glad to help.
@@dylandavies3634 if you take it in with it on for a warranty claim it’ll probably void it. Technically jb4 isnt supposed to leave any traces behind in the car once its removed so dealerships shouldn’t be able to see it. I think there was a guy on the forums whose turbos blew with a jb4 on and the repair was still covered under warranty. Its always a risk but i think its the least risky tunes out there in terms of warranty.
I installed the spark plugs with .22 gaps. Everyone recommends it and figured why not. If you do it do the hks, i have densos but they only last half as long.
@@SSH939 im making another video on Thursday with the car on the dyno to show the difference between maps 0-2. Ill see if i can get a draggy to do some pulls too in the different maps.
Hey man! New subscriber here! With all the mods you did to your car , if something was to happen to the car engine wise...your warranty wouldn’t apply right? I bought mine last week and it literally came with jb4 tune,intakes and an exhaust so I wonder if I should talk to them about the warranty since they say I have it ...to be clear if something was to happen am I still covered? Since they sold it to me like that
If they were on there from the beginning i doubt they can deny any repairs even if its due to the jb4. The only problem might be proving that it came with the car. In general anything changing how the engine performs from factory is going to void warranty but if it came from the dealership and you can prove it was there from the beginning you should be fine. With that said, im not a lawyer haha.
@JulianWithAnX ,As a loyal dedicated customer, Kia does have substandard maintenance customer service. it's terrible at best. Thing is though, as a customer any issue with your car the customers shouldn't have to prove a dam thing. These dealerships with their maintenance facilities are very careful how they interact with you the customer and the service they do to a customer's car, even if the vehicle was purchased there at the same dealership. This conduct is unacceptable on every level.
What mods did you put on ur stinger? And what specifics mods are you talking about to get that 100 hp for under 1000$? Im looking to buy the 2022 within end of summer and wanna start prepping myself. Thanks and great video very informative. Most owner reviews are generic and arent in depth as u did
On the burger motorsports website they sell a kit with everything needed to make 100 more hp. Really all you need are the intakes, correctly gapped spark plugs, and 93 octane gas. A less restrictive exhaust will help too. The less than $1000 part is not including labor (intakes, spark plugs, and exhaust can be done by yourself if you have the time and space, i had mine professionally installed so it’s definitely more than $1000). I did dyno the car recently and didnt quite make the 100. I think my issue was heatsoak and my best guess as too how much im currently making is probably 60-70 more whp. Think i had a bad batch of gas or my spark plugs were wearing down because my timing was off. My recommendation is get the hks plugs, any cold air intake and a better exhaust and you should make 100 more hp.
Nice color!! What state are you in? In FL car sales person accompanies test drive after they make a copy of your license. Did you get the brake issue fixed? Is it still happening? What did you have before the Stinger GT2? Thanks.
Brake issue was resolved with new pads and rotors. Test drive was just photo id for me too. I drove a 2014 accord for a 2 years before upgrading. Big difference lol
Thats gonna depend on a lot of factors like where you live but it was cheaper to insure than a mustang gt. Currently paying 250 a month in nyc and i just got a offer for $150 a month. Shouldn’t be to bad given that its not a v8 and has 4 doors.
As a korean we are always gonna try to get the most out of a situation so thats prob why they didnt reimburse u for the brake problems lol but kia is def my next car
Good amount of road noise comes in. Not sure if its the tires or the sound proofing kia used but its not that quiet on the highway. My exhaust has a bit of drone now too but aside from that no annoying rattles yet.
👍 Great review bro; If I walk into a dealer (NY) next couple of weeks ready to buy a 2022 Stinger GT2 AWD completely loaded & I make full payment up front, how much should it roughly cost me out the door? Also, do you, or do you know anyone who knows these cars inside & out who acts as a consultant to negotiate best deal for me? Thanks, I appreciate you .... P.S. - Although subjective, I'm curious to hear your take on best colors for this car... The dark green for 2022 looks great online but I'm not so sure about a green car; I generally like dark metallic grey in cars but I've seen black & dark grey stingers & they didn't look great to me in those colors. I think I like the ceramic grey & white the best... Also, interiors... The red seems great for white or ceramic grey but black should hold up better visually as it wears I would think... Any opinion?
Would you be willing to get a new 2020 or 2021? You may be able to score a pretty great deal like I did when I bought my 2019 GT2 brand new just under a year ago.
Ceramic grey my man, its like getting 2 colors in one. In some light it looks grey and in some other instances it looks white, but when its full blown ceramic grey you ll love it, looks stunning in person.
My infotainment is a bit dated now but the new models are pretty much great. I don’t really mind the lack of a digital dash. Stop and go cruise control is great in this car and on long highways it can even steer itself pretty well. Definitely a great road trip machine.
I should have waited I like this car though I would get the v6 don’t trust the 2.5 liter same engine as the sonata optima and other suv and cars that they have
Just traded in my 2018 Stinger premium and upgraded to the 2022 GT2 Limited Edition Scorpion. Amazing car.
Same here! Just bought the 2022 GT2 scorpion edition. Can’t wait to get some mods on it
Traded my 2018 GT Stinger for a 2022 gt2 scorpion.. 900 miles.. bms intakes.. jb4 tuned.. waiting to drop my cat back borla on.. lol
Same traded my 2018 for 2022 scorpion. We all in the 18 to 22 club
Picked up a 2022 GT1 AWD a few weeks ago. Absolutely love it. They thankfully added an active exhaust for the refresh. In sport mode it's a lot louder, but not obnoxious which I like.
Just purchased 2023 Stinger with 9000 miles 8 weeeeks ago. Absolutely love this car.
Oh yeah, sound system crazy , was the biggest surprise for me.
Bought a blue one yesterday .... drives so well. Fantastic car.
Great video. I've been saving to get a Stinger, albeit a used one, sometime next year as hopefully a graduation present to myself. My dream car.
i don't think you understand what a "dream car" is unless you really set your sights that low. a dream car is supposed to be a car that is out of your reach, like a "dream". personally my dream car is the Durango Hellcat. but as far as attainable cars for myself the stinger is one of those choices.
Me too man I want a 2022 I’m 19 I’m gonna save up for a whole year and get it
@@maximusgladi8or you just bashed on someone because your two ideas of dream cars don’t match but your so called “dream car” is only $10k more than my brothers first car and over $50,000 less than my dads Panamera. With that being said neither of them have their dream car and price has nothing to do with not getting their dream car. You can put a price on a dream, the main thing about a “dream car” is the effect the car puts on somebody, not how far out of reach that by-product is. With that being said, a Stinger isn’t a bad dream car.
@UCH1AN1Rzm1YPju9pWUUfddQ hey m0ron, Durango hellcats are very attainable, cuz ur sights are too low, your dream car should be a flying pegasus ultrasound yellow jacket F-15 fighter jet double decker mega super battlefield tank. It’s a dream after all 🤡
Same
Thank you for making this video. I'm in the market to buy a stinger and glad to hear your upfront and honestly. Helps out greatly
Glad to help!
I’m picking up my 2022 g70 in two days. Same power train as the Stinger. I went with the g70 because of the weight difference and complimentary service with free loaner for all service. I’m in Toronto and my dealer gave me the keys and let me test drive on my own! The car blew me away in terms of power and handling. Previous fun car...2016 golf R. Will update on the Genesis experience as time goes by! ✌️
The new g70 looks fantastic. Good choice dude, Enjoy!
any update. I'm deciding between stinger or g70
I traded in my 2022 g70 for a 2023 because in the first 10000 Kms the car would regularly go into limp mode. As in no turbos and felt like the power of a 2 cylinder. Dealership said it is an issue but no real fix to it?!? So I thought maybe it’s a one-off! The 2023 started doing the same thing after only 1 thousand kms ffs. So I traded it in at 4.5k kms and that’s the end of my relationship with Genesis. On to something more reliable unfortunately! When working properly I loved the car tho just hated going to the dealership every month or so with no fix to the problem!
@@DragonNB13 see post
Eibach front and rear sway bars made handling SOOO much better!!! It’s extremely responsive, smooth, and way less lean into corners. Best mod I’ve done so far. I have both settings, set to hard.
Did you lower it as well? What year is your Stinger? Thx
@@wtitrader7397 Still haven’t lowered but finally getting around to messing with getting a new wheel setup. Mines a 2020 RWD GT2
Kinda wild that you only have 1k subs, this is one of the best car reviews I've seen in my ~16 years on YT.
Love my GT1! Kia dealerships just had the honor of being rock bottom on JD Power's quality survey of 16 mass-market car dealerships. That reflects my experience with my Kia dealership.
My dealer Actually did great with my brakes. At 2500 miles, they resurfaced my rotors. Still had an issue, at 7500 miles they gave me the euro Stinger spec brake pads and rotors free of charge. Also, that guy that set the 1/4 record is in the stinger group that I run 😎
Wish i had your dealer haha. Probably going to start going to a bigger dealership thats farther away. The most annoying thing about this is that KIA hasn’t officially acknowledged this with a recall program. Glad to hear you got yours fixed though.
@@JulianWithAnX haha my dealer sucks with most stuff, but they acknowledged this as an issue because they sell more stingers than any other dealer group in the state. I think a lot of their reason for not recalling this issue is because it’s not necessarily a safety issue. The car still brakes fine with vibrations. My question is why they haven’t upgraded the brakes yet
@@robertmcgee3616 probably bought the parts in bulk and dont want them to go to waste lol. Curious if they fixed it with the refresh model.
@@JulianWithAnX I sure hope so! I’m trying to decide on trading my GT for the new GT2
@@robertmcgee3616 look at carvanna lol. They offered me 41.5k for a 2020 with 11k miles. Pretty much what i paid minus taxes and fees.
Excellent review from someone who owns one. Well done!
Love my 2022 GT2. Trying to decide what mods are a must have for the 2022's. Active exhaust on the 22's sounds actually pretty good in sport mode.
I got to drive a 2021 kia stinger gt2 in Nsw Australia and wow how impressed was I.
Yea they’re pretty cool. The refresh models are even better.
Upgrade your sway bar
"I don't mind arguing; I kind of enjoy it." My man!
The vibrating brakes is because of the brake pads. They are too soft. Get some after market brake pads, get some new rotors. You should be set.
Hate to say this, but we're never going to be able to have the car remember the settings you mentioned, due to the claimed fuel economy and safety concerns. For example, the reason why you have to manually disable the auto start/stop feature every time you start the car is that with it enabled, Kia can claim certain fuel economy numbers; if you could "permanently" have the auto/start stop feature turned off, Kia would no longer be able to make the claimed fuel economy they currently do. That's why I'm sure you also probably noticed that the car will not stay in Smart, Custom, or Sport drive modes after you turn the car off, but will remember if you were in Eco or Comfort drive modes after you turn the car off -- again, that is due to the claims they make about fuel economy. Other settings you mentioned that don't save I'm sure are because of safety concerns.
I own a GT2 as well, and I know it's annoying, but it's something we all will just have to deal with unfortunately.
I remember as a 20-year old I went to the Acura dealer just to look and this young kid begged me to take an NSX on a test drive, I was l was like no way am I going to buy that I can't even afford it, he didn't care and begged me, I finally said yes and man that thing was fast, like ultra fast, he got in and nearly wrecked it, I respected the break-in as I knew it wasn't going to be my car and that kid just tore the shit out of it with only 12 miles on it.
The young kid worked at the dealer? I bet he was just looking for any reason to drive it haha. Love the nsx
Dealer service has been less than stellar at two of our local dealers (we've bought vehicles off two separate dealers over the years). It was almost bad enough to make us walk on buying our sixth Kia (our Stinger GT) a few months back. They make great cars - I just wish they'd bring their service level up to par.
Amen
Contact Kia direct if your experience with the dealer is not what you expect. Kia corporate has been great to work with and directs the dealership from the top.
@@jasonfarruggia9113 I did that - got nowhere. Corp sent the dealer an email that went unresponded. That was the extent of their involvement. They've lost my loyalty.
@@SilentKnight43 I've had the opposite experience when getting Kia corporate involved. I've even had them warranty things that by the written warranty shouldn't have been.
@@jasonfarruggia9113 Glad to hear at least someone's having a good experience.
Just picked up a 2023 GT2 AWD Grand Tourer edition with 26 miles on it and I love it!! Got a full ceramic pro satin wrap and the thing looks so sick! The engine is still in its break-in phase though so I haven't been able to drive it the way I want to yet lol..... actually I've probably been a bit too rough on the brand new engine up until about 190 miles because I didn't realize new engines needed to be broken in lol. I'm on the fence about getting a JB4 tune but it's just so tempting I might pull the trigger.
Good review; pros/cons very informative. I was looking to buy the Audi S5 Sportback. Really like that car but for $15K less the value is heavily in favor of the Stinger, which looks great & has more horses under the hood.
As for Audi, nice cars but the dreaded "Check Engine" light really gets old.
My stinger GT2 is the best car I have ever had. A perfect balance of performance, design, and practicality. 2023 has been discontinued. This car change the way Kia is perceived. Unfortunately, Kia Dealers' service is horrible. We will miss this car.
I’m getting one man💯
Excellent video, love my Stinger as well. Agree with everything you said 100%, especially about the dealer experience. Hyundai at least has the Genesis brand and dealers to answer questions but if you buy a Stinger, your post-purchase experience is bound to be dogshit. Here in Vancouver they don't even bother answering phones at the dealerships. Also I'd add that the gear shifter is god awful and leaves you in Neutral when you're trying to go from D to R quickly. Yours sounds great, I have a Borla exhaust in the mail, hopefully I like it!
Yea its a little annoying. I think kia focused a little too much in bringing the engineers over from premium brands but not any of the customer service experts.Maybe with time theyll get better but that doesnt really do much for me now. I went in last week for an oil change and the guy goes “someone will be with u” and i waited like 15 mins for someone to check me in while there was literally not one other person there. Idk leaves kind of a bad taste in my mouth.
Dude I have the reverse to drive to reverse neutral issue pretty often, like 1/5 times maybe. It's super annoying - you've got to be very deliberate and slow with her.
Awesome video. Very thorough. The Karen mask part was hilarious.
Appreciate the feedback!
I'm wondering why you are driving on the right hand side? is it something with your camera setting?
My iPhone flipped the video lol
I agree with pretty much all your pro’s and con’s about the Stinger.
I’d like to drive a 2022 to see if they addressed the suspension shortcomings.
I like some of the stuff they did but overall it doesnt look like enough for me to upgrade
Thanks for the awesome review and great information have been looking at getting the car since it came out this was very helpful
I have a 2018 GT2 and I love it. I put on Ark Performance anti-sway bars, and I replaced the stock rotors with Brembo rotors and EBC Redstuff pads and I have not had any vibration problems since. Many people still don't know what the Stinger is, so I often receive comments on the looks or questions about the make of the car. Overall, this care elicits a lot of curiosity from people which shows just how badly Kia advertised this car.
Hi , so you had this car since 2018 how many miles until now and what the biggest issue you faced during this period of time, What about the quality and reliability of this car
Thanks
Alot of people complain about a small fuel tank and always being at the pumps
It holds about 16 gals which is the same as a bunch of other sedans. I think it just burns through gas way too quick. Similar engined cars get a little more mpg then the s as stinger, wonder why that is.
I also find this is a downer. I am glad about being able to change octane. I love my car ,the best yet.
If you never brake hard in the stinger you'll probably never have the pad issue. I'm at 34k miles and I usually let the engine do the braking for me. I take off fast in the car but I always let the car slow down on it's own and then use the brakes a little at the end to stop. I'm doing mostly small town driving though. In sport mode you can almost do 1 pedal driving since the trans is always in a lower gear and shifts down faster. That said, I just bought some slotted and drilled rotors and some stoptech pads for all 4 corners. I have never had the brake issue but it appears that almost everyone with a stinger does. If you take the car to a road course you need to swap the pads and fluid at a minimum or you'll end up having a bad day.
Thanks for the honest and practical review.👍
Thanks for watching!
I paid 43k out the door for my gt1. And that is buying it and not leasing it. I also have a 100k bumper to bumper warranty standard. Not all kia delearships are the same. I have a great local kia dealership.
How did you pull that one off? I'm looking into the GT1 but my haggling abilities are terrible.. is there a place you found discounts or any kind of secrets you're willing to share? thanks in advance
@@MikeyTripz well to be honest I bought my 2020 kia stinger GT1 last year, before this vehicle shortage started. My wife also has a matching kia stinger, but it is the indigo special edition.
We recently went for an oil change and they offered to buy both of our cars back for more than what we paid for them.
I don't think you will find a good vehicle deal anytime soon until this computer chip issue mess is straightened out to be honest.
And kia gave both of us 0% interest for the life of the loan which has been awesome.
@@Adam-om9hu Damn that's crazy.. but on a better note, enjoy that 0% interest!
@@MikeyTripz kia still might have the 0% interest. I believe it is only for people with a 750 car credit score or higher.
Stinger GT (GT2) MY22 is $68,585 AUD drive away in Australia, October 21.
Think it just depends on the dealer. Mine replaced the brakes no questions didn't have to argue at all
Any guess how many miles they'd be willing to do that at? Mine has 21k and slight vibration
@@Kira-qc4qi Not sure my car only had 5K miles when Kia (Dan O'Brien norwood ma) replaced the brakes for free. I'd guess 21K is going to depend on your arguing skills :)
@@tomdoe1234 haha thanks
Great Vid. Thanks for this before my buy. I think I will make sure to purchase from a larger kia dealer and research of them in my area which sells the most stingers.
You dealing with the dealership down by Kings Plaza? I tried calling them a few times to set up oil changes & once to get a tire replaced & the people I deal with are complete scumbags.. I live in Bklyn & I drive all the way out to the Freehold NJ dealership, they're much easier to deal with out there.
Nah ive never used them but based on their reviews on google they seem terrible lol. Autoworld has some better reviews and theyve been good to me so far. Theyre in east medow, might be closer then going to nj
Just got my stinger GT2 2022 (ascot green) 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great color! That and orange are amazing!
@@JulianWithAnX I agree …thank you
Getting mine today 🔥
Do you still have the car now? I'm torn between the gt1 and gt2. Seen that really the gt2 has heads up display and surround view which is nice but not needed.
I actually sold it a while back but the feature i miss most from gt2 was the sound system lol. Not sure if gt1s have it now but it was really good in the gt2 i had
@@JulianWithAnX aaahhh okay, what did you end up moving to. About to gun for the gt1
What mods did you use Julian to get that additional horsepower?
Great video by the way. 👍🙌
I think it's certain dealership that doesn't have good service. I own a kia optima and they take care of my car. Just try to find a dealership that can give you good service.
I think i found a good one its just 40 minutes away. Told them about the breaks and they offered to fix the, right away.
@@JulianWithAnX that's good
So did you lease the car or buy it? You say you got like $10k off the car...That's not a purchase price. Leasing is totally different and saying you got $10k off is kinda misleading when it comes to leasing.
I love this video man !!! Definitely went into detail on the car greatly and I’ve watched a ton of videos on it. I’m looking into buying a Kia stinger with the V6 I don’t necessarily know which model year to go for or what options are a must have so I was wondering what you would decide ?
Also all I’ve been hearing is the the exhaust is terribly quiet so ik I’m going to be doing an after market exhaust nothing crazy with a bunch or crackles and pops but something I can hear when I put my foot down. What would you suggest ?
Gt 1 before 2020 had alotta options after that they stripped it and is extra on gt2 i beleive
What year is your stinger? Trying to figure out what features are possible on the '18 and '19 GT/GT1/GT2's and saw a few on your list during the vid I hadn't seen before. Thanks man!
How much is the extended powertrain warranty? How much maintenance and extras did they try to sell you upon purchase at the dealership?
10 year powertrain is standard in the US. Other places get a 7 year power train I believe. And they didnt really try to sell me anything extra. Think that’s because i went in knowing what i wanted and they kind of picked up on it.
@@JulianWithAnX Nice! Thank you! I am considering buying one in the next year or so and I want to know what to expect.
Great review. Thanks for sharing your candid opinions...good, bad and the ugly (or slightly unattractive). I'm sked for a test drive this Thursday! Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully you get a good salesman who lets enjoy the car
for the issue of the brakes couldn't you just add a high quality brake from the jump so it wouldn't have that? as far as the roll goes during turning I'd just add sway bars. I'm thinking of getting this over an ISF just cause I'd rather wreck a Kia over a Lexus lol.
The dealership experience, weight and resale value is what's sorta stopping me from getting this car. Like I've heard of dealership techs crashing people's cars and ruining sideskirts, etc. Also what did you do concerning the weight?
Once the new civic type r comes out I'll probably make up my mind. They're 2 different cars but I don't mind either haha
Yea man it’s definitely something to consider. Personally if i didnt get the lease rebate then im not sure if i would have went down this route. You can lease germans (m340 or c43) for around what the non rebate lease cost on the stinger is and get maintenance included and a way better service. Although ive found a good dealership so its not that big of a problem anymore for me.
Thanks for this video. Considering to get the Stinger GT2 Scorpion edition or Genesis g 70 3.3 awd with LSD/DF
The new blacked out scorpion looks clean . If genesis offered the same incentives as kia id probably be in a g70 just for the weight savings and handling characteristics alone. Definitely drive both.
Thanks for the quick response. Maybe I will get the genesis over the stinger a little better performance, interior and service overall with a complimentary maintenance for 3 years or 36000 miles.
the great thing about the stinger compared to the g70 is the hatch...way more versatile!
Both great cars. All depends what are you looking for, that s why I want to test drive the new 2022 genesis with the DF vs the Stinger.
Before getting my GT2 I also looked at a G70 and test drove both. G70 is nice, but not as roomy and feels more crammed than the Stinger, the back seats of the G70 are definitely smaller and not as good for adults in the back, and the Stinger's hatch makes it much more of a practical car. That, along with a killer deal I got on my GT2, and that's why I ultimately went with the Stinger.
I wonder if you'd get a better service experience from a genesis dealer. If one doesn't need the trunk space maybe the G70 is a better option...
Sadly the nearest genesis dealer near me is about 1 hr away. The only other place that sells g70s are hyundai dealerships. Ive managed to find a kia dealership not too far thats been good to work with though.
I've test driven several of these now and like the car quite a bit. I do have several concerns, enough to dissuade me from buying it entirely.
1) Past kia experience - had a 2011 optima sux. Had massive issues with the car tracking straight. In the shop over a dozen times for alignments, tires, toe bolts and other. In the end I took the loss and unloaded it. What a turd that car was/is.
2) Kia dealer experience - Maybe someone can point me to a competent dealer service shop in the chicago area.
3) DIY. - This car is not very friendly in that regard. No designated front/rear jacking points. Even a cheap honda civic has this. I do most/all of my own maintenance. Getting the car safely onto jack stands should not be rocket science.
4) Plastic components for oil changes?!@# How long is that filter cap and housing going to last over the life of the car. How easy is it to replace the housing? Why is it plastic?
5) And this is the real deal breaker. No RWD models in the midwest area. I need to travel some states south to get one or special order.
Are you driving a right hand drive stinger?
*Spiritedly*
lol great review man. Subbed
Haha appreciate the sub!
Any creaks and rattles in the cabin? I fear this car suffers from cheap assembly.
The biggest annoyance is the arm rest. They used really thin leather and You can hear rattles when opening it or putting pressure on it. Cant recall any other rattles from the top of my head. There is a rear hatch rattle that happens to some cars but i haven’t experienced it yet after 11k miles and the fix is adding a couple of washers. Theres some rattles with the dash cam wires i have wired through the b pillars but thats not a kia fault.
It can vary from Stinger to Stinger. I wouldn't say it's "cheap" assembly, but you're not getting the same quality control like Lexus, for example. I had some mild rattling from the hatch, which was easily fixed. Also some popping noise from the front headliner area (that would get worse the warmer it was outside) -- ended up being the adhesive making the noise because the adhesive on the headliner wasn't fully adhered on some parts of the headliner to the body. Thank god it was finally diagnosed and fixed by one dealership's service department.
Unfortunately I do still have an issue with rattling coming from the large sunroof when it's closed (check the forums, as other people have had a similar issue), which I have had since I purchased the care new. Two dealerships were able to get the noise stopped or reduced, but only for a few weeks and then it came back both times. Currently have an ongoing case with Kia's Consumer Assistance Center. It's not like crazy loud or anything, but still can be a bit annoying. I wouldn't say I have any "creaks" in the cabin though.
Overall though the car is an absolute blast to drive.
what spoiler is that ?
Kia still honor your warranty after putting ark downpipe mbrp catback mod?
Hello thinking about buying a kia stinger but I am a aggressive driver do I have to slow down a lot for speed bumps because it seems like the car is really low?
Its not super low. Should definitely slow down for speed bumps lol. Unless you mean imperfections on the road like potholes. Ive hit a few and never scraped.
Great video, I am looking to purchase a stinger ASAP . During these COVID & chip shortage crazy times. Believe me LOL I am aware that this is the worst time to buy vehicle, I especially pre owned
. I live in upstate New York so you guys know a great dealership from Rochester to Albany? Or anywhere in NY or NE states that offer the best pricing on a new stinger , or again how to get them huge deals on top end units?
Thanks to all of you in advance I hope to hear back from you
So you leased your stinger? You mentioned in the video you would talk about the deal you got for the car. How much a month for how many miles/yr?
$560 a month for 10k a year on a 2 year lease. The miles don’t matter for me because I’m going to be buying it out at the end anyway, the only way to get the lease cash was to do the two year lease.
@@JulianWithAnX why not do the buyout immediately?
@@zmarg07 i was going to initially. Figured that theres a small chance i dont want the car in two years. Tbh even of i dont want to keep it I’ll probably buyout and sell as my buyout is a few grand less then what 2 year okd stimgers go for. Probably make some money back. But immediate buyout is a good choice too.
Hey dude, great video i subbed. I’ve been looking at this car for the past year and I really want it as my next vehicle.
What was your previous vehicle? I’m riding in a 10th gen civic with a 2.0L and it has about 175 hp, it’s not fast what so ever but I have fun in it sometimes. Is the power in the stinger enough to continually have fun in? I know going from 175hp to 365hp is more than double but I want to make sure it’s enough to not disappoint.
I wouldn’t keep it stock, I see FBO stingers doing 0-60 in 3.5 and 1/4 mile in the 11s range which is pretty nuts.
The used stinger market in Canada right now is crazy IMO, you can find stingers with 35,000 km (22k miles) for around $35k ($29k USD) I also just want to know your opinion on going with used is.
I think stock this car is perfect for having fun and not getting arrested lol. With a tune i catch myself doing 120 almost by accident sometimes. Thats only on map 2 on jb4 and there room for some power still.
I came from a 2014 accord 4 cylinder so the power jump was pretty great. I remember flooring it the first time at the dealership and getting that feeling in my stomach.
As for used these cars are a great value used. Not sure what the warranty is like in Canada but in the states a used cpo stinger still gets u the 10 year warranty. Used definitely is a good value. I personally went with new bc of the $9000 lease cash on top of a $2000 msrp drop.
One thing to note is that you will notice the weight lol. I remember realizing how light my old accord felt. Overall though I think youll enjoy the power bump lol.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@JulianWithAnX awesome thanks for the reply. Do you plan on buying out after the lease? Also have you thought about getting the refreshed 2022 version? I’m not sure if I like the older oval-ish taillights or the newer ones more
@@speedtab215 I'm in the exact same position as you, been looking for a used one in Canada for months now in the same mileage/price range. Finding one with the right trim level and colour is a real issue right now lol
i drive tested a gt2 awd and went a lite 120. W car
How much have you had to pay for just regular brake services like pad change or rotor?
None so far. Havent had to change them yet. They replaced them once under warranty.
I owned a 2019 GT2 AWD for a year and a half and sold it after putting 6k miles on it. It was decent but I didn't love it. My list has a lot more cons than Julian's.
How is your gas mileage?
Not the greatest lol. Depends on how i drive but i live in nyc and my lifetime average is 16mpg. Highways i can get up to like 26-28. City driving is anywhere 15-18mpg. Typically drive in sport with auto on-off engine turned off so i could probably get some more but i dont really care for the extra mpg. I get about 280-310 mils per fill up.
This was great. Thanks! I’m thinking of getting a gt1 or 2. Doing a little research. 👍🏽
This is why I love lexus service, hands down first class service on my GS FSport.
Is500 is on the top 3 choices for my next car
If you're making about 400-420 to the wheels in an AWD, you might even be making closer to 500 crank hp.
I'll be honest, it's poor taste for a dealer to throw hurdles in the way of test driving something you plan on owning.
At the same time I get it, they don't want people to "hot rod" the car before someone buys it.
Extremely poor taste imo. Think its just dealers not really having had a nicer car to let people drive before and not knowing how to treat this one.
@@JulianWithAnX The dealership that I bought my Stinger GT2 from started doing credit checks before test driving the Stinger because people were coming in for a 'test drive' and they had no intention of buying the car only wanted to see if the rumor's were true. The day that I
mileage that was put on the car and some light damage from "test driving"
In my opinion doing a credit check to avoid any extra wear and tear or possible damage on ANY car is not an Extra Step. If you were serious about buying that's one step done.
Let's be honest if you cant pass the credit check you are not leaving the lot with ANY car.
Can you make a video about the mods that are less than a 1000$ total yet helps the car get 100 more whp? I'm looking to buy a 2022 kia gt1
I have another video on the mods i have installed. Pretty much a jb4, intakes and muffler delete will get you a lot if horsepower and none of those are terribly expensive.
I just leased one, 2022. Curious how much your payment came out to be? Feel free to decline to answer if it it too direct.
$560, put $2k down
another question for ya. seen u using the stinger forums. they recommended to use autobytel to find out lease incentives. im from jersey but was still curious if ur dealer let u stack the bonus cash rebate as well as the customer cash rebate?
Im pretty sure i did stack although im not too sure. There was a $2000 discount they were advertising and then i added the lease incentive on top. Although i just had them punch the numbers in i didnt use autobytel.
Lease incentive is definitely the way to get these. Buy the lease out immediately with a traditinal auto loan. Massive savings.
Bro my brakes are the same exact way on my 2018 gt2 and I can’t get them to look at it.
I believe the warranty on the brakes is 12k miles or 1 year. Unless they replaced them within those limits then you’re most likely out of luck. I contacted corporate and started a case before i passed 1 year so that there was proof that the issue happened within warranty.
@@JulianWithAnX I bought a used 2018 gt2 w 20k on it so I really am not sure. Thanks though damn!
I bought my 2019 GT2 new in July 2020 with about 110 miles on it. Had vibrations when braking immediately after purchasing. At first the dealership I bought it from said there was probably some buildup on it, and it would wear off as I drove. It didn't, and so the rotors had to get turned immediately after purchasing. No joke. They seem alright so far, at almost 6k miles. What was also a pain in the ass was that the dealership that I took it to to get the rotors turned didn't jack up the car in the right place on one side, and ruined the side skirt, causing them to have to buy a whole new one and paint and install it.
@@flybriur yikes man that sounds terrible glad they fixed it though. Was it a dealer in ny?
@@JulianWithAnX Yea, it sucked. And the service department there is horrendous. A new auto group just took it over not long before I took the car in, and from the reviews I've seen, the service used to be pretty decent under the old auto group, but this new one sucks. It's a dealership in Los Angeles.
Just gonna give my 2014 5 series back to dealership . Curious how’s stinger compared to 5 series .
The features of the Stinger are just like my BMW e60 530i and there is only 1cm difference in length. The 530i has cost me around $17,000 AUD in repairs over seven years. I can't wait to get the Stinger and its 7 year warranty.
so basically get a G70 3.3T AWD and getting better service with Genesis
Which dealership did you go to so I don’t do the same thing. I’m having rotor vibrations too.
The one i went to is northeast kia. Its in kias system because the paper they gave me says its a known issue.
@@JulianWithAnX are they good with your mods?
@@BigD4562 havent said anything yet. I usually take my jb4 off and go in with my intakes on and they havent said anything yet. Generally mods won’t matter until you need warranty work and i havent needed anything yet (besides brakes).
Hey Julian, excellent video. Do you have a video where you showcase the mods you refer to for ~$1000? Appreciate your response in advance. Thank you
I do have another video showcasing the mods i have. The $1000 refers to a jb4 ($500) muffler delete ($100 probably) and intakes ($400-500). The jb4 is probably the best in terms of gains.
@@JulianWithAnX much appreciated. Looking to get a stinger soon.
How much did you put down on the car?
2k i believe
How has the gas mileage been after your mods? I'm really stuck between the 2022 GT2 with everything (since you can't add anything to the new 2.5t features wise) and just going with the Sonata N-line which will be better on gas, lighter, better handling...but likely not as much aftermarket tuning support
Upgrading from a 2013 Sonata 2.0t I've tuned to about 350 crank HP
Gas mileage is the same give or take 1 mpg. I personally havent noticed a difference but some people on the forums do report increased mpg. Tbh though if gas is a big concern id probably look elsewhere. I get 16mpg city on a good day and 24-26 highway. As much as i love this car I reminisce about the days of 40mpg on my old accord lol.
@@JulianWithAnX haha my thoughts exactly, I was hoping for at least mid 20's thanks for sharing your experience!
Axles, suspension etc will be going out before to long. Good luck.
I just subscribed your channel right away. I’m gonna buy stinger in the next year, so i’ve always watched review or POV like this..anyhow if you have insta account with your car, i wanna follow or just watching. Please keep going with the video :)
I appreciate the sub! Sadly i dont have a car specific insta (yet) but ill be uploading more stinger stuff every now and then. If you have any questions about the buying process or anything else just lmk ill be glad to help.
@@JulianWithAnX good for me ! sadly i’m in korea and korean kk,anyway i’ll do enjoy your video, thanks for the comment
For a full size sedan this car really isn’t that heavy lol. Even stock this car is breaking hearts
I guess its all relative a lot of cars are heavy now a days. Would like to be under 4k pounds still lol.
It's a midsized sedan.
“I don’t king arguing, I kind of enjoy it!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What mods are you running ?
Jb4 with fuel wires on map 2, bms cold air intake, ark mids, mbrp catback. Might add a intercooler* at some point.
@@JulianWithAnX yeah do it, I’ve seen good power gains with exhaust delete and fmic
@@JulianWithAnX do you know if the jb4 voids your warranty? I was planning to do a CAI and Cat Back when I get mine just to keep the warranty intact
@@dylandavies3634 if you take it in with it on for a warranty claim it’ll probably void it. Technically jb4 isnt supposed to leave any traces behind in the car once its removed so dealerships shouldn’t be able to see it. I think there was a guy on the forums whose turbos blew with a jb4 on and the repair was still covered under warranty. Its always a risk but i think its the least risky tunes out there in terms of warranty.
What state is this, right hand drive??
Forgot to flip the video haha its left hand drive like all the rest here in ny
@@JulianWithAnX I’m from the UK and have spent the last 7yrs in Brooklyn, so I was like what’s going on! Haha
How do I find the incentives
Theyve dialed them back recently, i think now its like 4k off if you a 24 month lease.
Hey, for the Jb4 tune did you install the spark plugs with it as well or still sitting at stock? Thanks
I installed the spark plugs with .22 gaps. Everyone recommends it and figured why not. If you do it do the hks, i have densos but they only last half as long.
Appreciate the response. You should do some 0-60 pulls with the draggy
@@SSH939 im making another video on Thursday with the car on the dyno to show the difference between maps 0-2. Ill see if i can get a draggy to do some pulls too in the different maps.
@@JulianWithAnX looking forward to it!
Hey man! New subscriber here! With all the mods you did to your car , if something was to happen to the car engine wise...your warranty wouldn’t apply right? I bought mine last week and it literally came with jb4 tune,intakes and an exhaust so I wonder if I should talk to them about the warranty since they say I have it ...to be clear if something was to happen am I still covered? Since they sold it to me like that
If they were on there from the beginning i doubt they can deny any repairs even if its due to the jb4. The only problem might be proving that it came with the car. In general anything changing how the engine performs from factory is going to void warranty but if it came from the dealership and you can prove it was there from the beginning you should be fine. With that said, im not a lawyer haha.
@JulianWithAnX ,As a loyal dedicated customer, Kia does have substandard maintenance customer service. it's terrible at best. Thing is though, as a customer any issue with your car the customers shouldn't have to prove a dam thing. These dealerships with their maintenance facilities are very careful how they interact with you the customer and the service they do to a customer's car, even if the vehicle was purchased there at the same dealership. This conduct is unacceptable on every level.
I'm thinking about getting a '22 model. I live in NY as well. Where you at?
22s look really good. Im in the yonkers area
@@JulianWithAnX ahh kool...I'm in the Binghamton area. Are there any local stinger meets?
@@goodfellatony84 theres supposed to be one in philly in june at some point. Havent seen anything in ny though
@@JulianWithAnX aight.. hmu @italian_fantasy84 on IG
I like the color.
What mods did you put on ur stinger? And what specifics mods are you talking about to get that 100 hp for under 1000$? Im looking to buy the 2022 within end of summer and wanna start prepping myself. Thanks and great video very informative. Most owner reviews are generic and arent in depth as u did
On the burger motorsports website they sell a kit with everything needed to make 100 more hp. Really all you need are the intakes, correctly gapped spark plugs, and 93 octane gas. A less restrictive exhaust will help too. The less than $1000 part is not including labor (intakes, spark plugs, and exhaust can be done by yourself if you have the time and space, i had mine professionally installed so it’s definitely more than $1000). I did dyno the car recently and didnt quite make the 100. I think my issue was heatsoak and my best guess as too how much im currently making is probably 60-70 more whp. Think i had a bad batch of gas or my spark plugs were wearing down because my timing was off. My recommendation is get the hks plugs, any cold air intake and a better exhaust and you should make 100 more hp.
Nice color!! What state are you in? In FL car sales person accompanies test drive after they make a copy of your license. Did you get the brake issue fixed? Is it still happening? What did you have before the Stinger GT2? Thanks.
Brake issue was resolved with new pads and rotors. Test drive was just photo id for me too. I drove a 2014 accord for a 2 years before upgrading. Big difference lol
@@JulianWithAnX So true. Cool, thanks
I assume you’re driving a 2020?
Correct.
Hey man ,how much is insurance on this Kia ?
Thats gonna depend on a lot of factors like where you live but it was cheaper to insure than a mustang gt. Currently paying 250 a month in nyc and i just got a offer for $150 a month. Shouldn’t be to bad given that its not a v8 and has 4 doors.
@@JulianWithAnX thank you , I have a 2019 accord sport and I want a Kia stinger 😬gonna be watching all your videos
@@alejandrojacobo4229 thanks I appreciate it! My dad has a 2020 2.0 accord and that thing moves haha
Mine is 60 dollars more than my 2015 Forester if that's any sort of comparisons -- Michigan
What year is the car
2020
As a korean we are always gonna try to get the most out of a situation so thats prob why they didnt reimburse u for the brake problems lol but kia is def my next car
noises in the cabine?
Good amount of road noise comes in. Not sure if its the tires or the sound proofing kia used but its not that quiet on the highway. My exhaust has a bit of drone now too but aside from that no annoying rattles yet.
👍 Great review bro; If I walk into a dealer (NY) next couple of weeks ready to buy a 2022 Stinger GT2 AWD completely loaded & I make full payment up front, how much should it roughly cost me out the door? Also, do you, or do you know anyone who knows these cars inside & out who acts as a consultant to negotiate best deal for me? Thanks, I appreciate you .... P.S. - Although subjective, I'm curious to hear your take on best colors for this car... The dark green for 2022 looks great online but I'm not so sure about a green car; I generally like dark metallic grey in cars but I've seen black & dark grey stingers & they didn't look great to me in those colors. I think I like the ceramic grey & white the best... Also, interiors... The red seems great for white or ceramic grey but black should hold up better visually as it wears I would think... Any opinion?
Would you be willing to get a new 2020 or 2021? You may be able to score a pretty great deal like I did when I bought my 2019 GT2 brand new just under a year ago.
@@flybriur unless it's an absolute screaming deal of like
@@mikethestockimpaler3049 Gotcha. I got my 2019 GT2 RWD brand new this past July for under 39k, so couldn't turn that down.
@@flybriur What color ext/int did you get? ...And, would you get same color if you had to do it all over again, or do you have any advice on colors?
Ceramic grey my man, its like getting 2 colors in one. In some light it looks grey and in some other instances it looks white, but when its full blown ceramic grey you ll love it, looks stunning in person.
Great vid! Super helpful. I’m thinking about getting the 2021 used or the 2022 leased. How about the infotainment or the stop and go cruise control?
My infotainment is a bit dated now but the new models are pretty much great. I don’t really mind the lack of a digital dash. Stop and go cruise control is great in this car and on long highways it can even steer itself pretty well. Definitely a great road trip machine.
I should have waited I like this car though I would get the v6 don’t trust the 2.5 liter same engine as the sonata optima and other suv and cars that they have
Like the way you talk, "like turning on a fighter jet" hahhah