2017 Personality 06: Jean Piaget & Constructivism
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2017
- In this lecture, I talk about the great developmental psychologist Jean Piaget, who was interested, above all, in the way that knowledge is generated and transforms. His analysis of the development of morality in children, which relates early play to social cooperation and competition, is particularly profound.
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I'm a student in university.
I never thought that I'd be excited to get out of my lectures so that I can go watch another lecture.
m_ p Dude! Same, I don't even study anything close to psychology.
Yup, one of my classes has a twenty minute break in the middle of it. I whip my phone out and "go to school" while in school.
Hahaha yes! I just came home from my credited lectures to watch Peterson lectures while I eat lunch. Totally hear you, m_p, Hardus Jonker, and BoyRobot2.
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Jordan peterson has made me want to study psychology at university , keep up the studying bucko's .
"There's hockey, say, and there's... there's uhh..."
The Canadian is strong with this one.
1:15:00 the hockey comment
It's something like that... ;) A common phrase I notice he says.
Omg.. I haven't heard it yet but I am excited. Sounds like lots of people I know in Canada..
@@Gottaculat
Well I mean, good luck with that, man! But that's what's so cool about it, roughly speaking. So...
"It's like, NO... IT'S NOT."
"Nice micro-routine adaptation there, chum!"
I'm using that when I'm a parent.
Hahahahahahahahahaha love it
Its cute
I am a parent that has to start using that on myself. It's funny in a sad way. But Im the cause of it being this way right now, so I have to do whatever it takes to get my damn room clean again!😂
It definitely won't stop me from using it own my kids, too. It is a great line!
And when you threaten someone: "Im gonna punch you in the bottom of your axiomatic structures"
01:44:26
I'm a 50 year old woman who has tried a couple of degrees in the university system in my younger years. Believe me this man Jordan is something else! I'm totally captivated by the thoughts he shares with us. I am passionate about knowledge and self education and I can't believe his generosity of sharing all this information with us for free. This guy needs to be given the Nobel Peace Prize for educating us so we can understand the human condition, so thank you Professor Peterson.
Thx to acknowledged it in such a beautiful manners. Thx to articulated what I think. Ty. This man is unbelievable. He should ware a cape.
Great Man 🤘
I totally agree with you...
jerry greene Are you implying that he didn’t?
@@colliemon Jerry Greene is a troll. Goes under various names. Guess he s writing a thesis about "the phenomenon of JBP" or sthg, and is too lazy (or dumb or unwillig) to do the work himself. Mayb its a thesis about 'the fans of JBP'. Anyway, don't waste your breath with him. If you don't mind a well-meant advice, i.e. 🙋♀️
How fortunate we are to be able to learn from this man.
Best comment ever.
And how fortunate we are to be able to understand english also ! Native english speakers often don't realise how fortunate they are to be able to listen and understand what Dr Peterson is talking about... but as a non-native speaker (I'm french) who has learned english just a few years ago, it's mind boggling to have access to this kind of knowledges... I've studied psychology for 4 years in University and I've never had anything similar to these kinda lectures.... It's really unique !
Still learning 👍
Sure
@@lorisnovelli9915 You made my day Loris.
I have studied a lot of Piaget’s writings. This is one of the best presentations I’ve ever seen on Piaget’s ouvre and goals. Great lecture. A lot of people misrepresent or misinterpret Piaget; this lecture is not the case.
I’ve done four seperate University units that have presented Piaget and his theories and not a single one of them has even come close to this level of understanding and teaching. Makes you wonder about how little of an understanding our educators really have
@@Daniel_McDougall Exactly. Great comment.
Its really saying something when JBP calls you a genius so I cant wait to try and understand Piaget, i have been struggling with Niche for over a year and I still hav not finished with beyond good and evil.
It is humbling to think your a smart guy becouse your friends respect and look at you as an intellectual only to see how mouth breather I am in comparison to some of these minds.
@@Recovery12Life dude you have no idea! You don't even know how to spell Nietzsche! 😄
@@IMAHMS you tell us
As a student of psychology I have not yet encountered during my education a single lecture that stands in comparison with what Dr Peterson presents here. What an icredible opportunity to be able to take this class from half-way around the world. The insights into the practice of psychotherapy I found especially gripping and useful. Thank you so much!
And its fucking free.
I'm eternally grateful that he puts his lectures online and that the university allows him to do so. My field of study had nothing whatsoever to do with this subject material, so I never would have gotten exposed to it otherwise. And I doubt I would have gotten exposed to Prof. Peterson had he not stood up to the marxists and gotten himself on the news. Just a fantastically serendipitous series of events that led me here and I am very grateful, if you're reading this Professor.
damn.....there isn't substance to any of these videos....its common sense hoopla....I understand English...I understand what he's saying....its nothing special...its nothing to go to school for....its nothing to pay college tuition for....its common sense...longwinded...uncoordinated....repetitive...common sense....for 2 hours....all videos....all playlists.... so yeah I understand English.....And at the end of the video i ask myself...wtf did i Learn? I remind myself....not a god damn thing. I'm 24....Does this mean i'm some super genius that I can honestly belittle his teaching as 8th grader material MAYBE ...or are these kids seriously that stupid?
Logic Monkey Maybe you think you understand what he’s saying? How does your actual life stack up to the things he prioritises? Where are you in the spousal search and the dominance hierarchy? Have you really discovered your shadow and come to terms with it, etc? How are your relationships with family, friends, work colleagues? And do you make your bed when you get up in the morning?
And yes, for teenagers and young adults, and even beyond, there are a million and one distracting enticements trying to lead the young away from their human purpose for being, in our faces every day through shallow pop culture that makes it close to impossible for the young to see through to what really matters and what they should be pursuing with their precious time. It’s not that they’re stupid by any means, it’s that they’re simply being misled at every turn. This is why Jordan Peterson’s lectures are a godsend. He’s waking people up.
Yes I fully understand what he's saying...especially when every lecture uses the EXACT same metephors the Exact same (interpretations) the exact same pretty much everything. I've also watched a ton of Jordan Peterson material and intereveiws as well. He's saying the same thing over and over. I guess I have no use for it but I also now realize a really old saying i heard about him... He's a stupid mans smart man. He uses big buzzwords in longwinded intellectually astute bringing up some mythology to pull some interpretation out of his ass and wows the crowd to say in the span of 2 hours interweaving this and that and in the end..............Its either common sense or just him talking about more mythology......anything of substance (the common sense) could be summarized in 5 minutes. He's a good entertainer. I mean it... Next time you listen to his video...take notes on every Actual nugget of information and when the video is over you tell me if there was a DAMN thing that you didn't know by 8th grade. The practical stuff not historic names ect. I have been....want to see my notes? They look like I was taking notes on an 8th grade teacher....If not 6th.
10:17 I'm going to start calling anything that pisses me off me "completely unnecessary phenomena"
Ha, I thought the same thing. What a Jordan Peterson way to react.
That is funny :9
Don't think it is doing the phenomena justice though... ;)
Well, JP adds "That's seems to be a..." before it. He is so precise in his speech! Practice what he preach! :D
Have a good one, buddy! ;)
I'll keep saying "shit" ... do you think Prof. Peterson would feel better if he started cursing?
@@maxheadrom3088 considering the state he’s in these days I really doubt it would make him feel any worse
I love Professor Jordan Peterson's lectures. After 4 years of intensive questioning of 'everything', just when I thought I had 'gone too far', I recently stumble across this man (thanks to media exposure) who gives real food for thought and helps you open that Pandora's box of human behaviour and look at its darkness and strangeness without being overcome with fear. It's like an expert guide walking you through a Jungle full of dangers, it's unknown territory, it's dangerous, but you feel you're in safe hands. Thanks Prof.
I like how a moron with a Communist emblem as one's picture is dissing Peterson.
If the subjective doesn't exist, then why do you Commies always say that money is just a piece of paper? Obviously the value behind money is subjective, acting as a representation of something that is objective. If money is just objective, then why would you want to rob people of all their hard earned cash so badly? LOL
JazzPianoObsessed: I wish I would have discovered Peterson years ago when I was a hopelessly resentful, drunken nihilist roaming around in my mothers basement reading Nietzsche, listening to death metal, and going deeper and deeper into utter insanity.
mebe84: Lots of pain, suffering, and critical situations forced me to either perish and die or try and realize that I didn't know shit about life and that I needed to humble myself and learn. Connection to other people and life in general is vital. I can't just isolate and isolate or else I become alienated from life. I also silence my thoughts from time to time and be more aware of the present as well as my feelings, emotions, and intuitions. I also have to find a certain degree of trust or faith in life, in the very nature of existence, a sort of faith in which I know that my actions (and inactions) matter, they affect things, and therefore affect my life. I can't escape into some form of nihilism or utopianism forever, because that's just not possible. So that means confronting what I don't like, what I'm afraid of, etc. None of this btw has to be grand. I find that working with small things and making small steps are the best way of going about it. Focus on more details (the dishes need to be cleaned, or maybe I should feed my cat, or maybe I should take a walk, or what have you) and less on the grand narrative that we always seem to be trying to force ourselves and life into. Also, understanding "couplings" as I call them, also known as dualities or opposites. Male and female go hand in hand, play and work go hand in hand, responsibility and freedom go hand in hand. Action and rest go hand in hand. Also, try and stay away from the great spiritual poisons like resentment, pity, arrogance, false humility, vengeance, etc. and then realize at the same time that you WILL feel these things and that there is no reason to punish yourself for feeling them. Simple awareness can go a long way.
William Koscielniak, that sounds a little bit like where I have been for the last 4 years, except for the 'being in my mother's basement' part, I live in a small room rented from a private landlord. (that 'mother's basement' reference made me actually laugh out loud, I don't know why, it's not funny really , I guess it just feels 'very familiar', like, someone actually understands where I am). I would consider myself a 'Nihilist', I know, I know, it is counter productive, though in a sense I am still pretty productive in society. I have 'always; been a solitude seeker, ever since I was a little boy, this will not change, as I have stopped fighting who I am. I have yet to read Nietzsche and other philosophers. After having been in a religious organisation that prohibited reading the philosophers, I am just getting started. I think the 4 years or questioning everything has put me in the right place to be open minded about what they have to say. Oh and I am past the 'everything is meaningless so I may as well not keep on living' stage, that ship has sailed. It is a joy to listen to Peterson's fearless walks into searching journeys into human nature.
God, I really hate it when something really wallops me at the bottom of my axiomatic structure
It's no small thing!
Yea ikr, I mean its no bloody joke man!
so do I, roughly speaking
Well that depends on what you mean by axiomatic structure
You said it! It's a hell of a thing!
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18:13 types of memory
21:10 astractin rules tht were initially built in
23:27 rules come from games
28:13 piaget was interested in
32:21 from low resolution to chaos to understanding
38:32 cry
1:00:35 representing future
1:10:50 learning trhough pain
1:22:15 kids socialization
1:23:58 frame validation
1:27:20 decomposing abstraction into actions and perseptions
1:32:25 regulating emotions don't ask for the abstraction go for the highest leel of resolution you can manage
Thanks, hard to sit through his aimless jabbering sometimes
@@youknowwhoiam4432 aimless jabbering
Man, Piaget must really be one of Peterson's favorite thinkers. Jordan is on fire in this lecture!
johnkan Piaget was the first to observe children..
johnkan yeah watching them leading up to this one, he’s speaking about 1.5 times as quick as normal. Mind boggling how he comes up with what he talks about on the fly and just riffs for hours
Wait till you hear him talk about Jung...😅
His favorite is definitely Nietzsche
@@privateinvestigator8607 no, it's jung
/looks at computer "that seems to be a completely unnecessary phenomena" classic JP
I said out loud, "God, he is hilarious and odd. I love this guy."
Yeah, I don't understand what was happening there.
@@5ilver42 Me neither.
"Thats just... Sheer spite. As far as I'm concerned"
"it's no joke man!" :D
Hello there internet and anyone else reading this, Jordan’s videos have been live changing for me. I’m a married man with 2 children 13&19 and have been struggling with addiction since age 17. At 38 now and a life of sober after years of off and on abusing different substances your videos have been like a revolution in my mind and my heart. I feel grateful truly grateful for this friendship I have with a person that I may never know personally. Thank you Dr. Peterson.
This man is a frickin’ treasure. What a wealth of knowledge. I’m often dumb struck with his ability to articulate a situation or state that I have found my self in…
It is amazing how I can still be doing the same thing (sitting in front of a computer) but now that it's Peterson's lectures I'm watching I feel I am being about as productive as I possibly can be. This is truly reinvigorating my life.
Me: _Fuck this shit._
JBP, an intellectual: _That seems to be a completely unnecessary phenomena._
Ludmila Marešová lmaaaaaooooooo
What happend there?
😂
Im 52 and have registered for Psychology classes at Fort Worth, TX college due in part to how interesting Dr. Peterson's lectures are.
I feel so for your professors. How could they possibly measure up to JP?
regular professors: it's exceedingly easy *make it even more complicated than it already was*
JP: it's exceedingly complex and hard *makes it so clear it feels like i already knew it somehow*
rare gift!
I know exactly what you mean...some of the stuff he says seems obvious and profound at the same time. Its remarkable.
I think one of the reasons why many professors make things more complicated than they have to be is to show students that they're above the students' understanding or something like that. It's a hierarchy game in some sense and they want to be seen as "the professor who knows complicated things that we don't understand".
@@adibahmed10 if you knew someone was willing to be in massive debt just to hear what you have to say. Id probably do it too XD
You put that very well, you spoke for me then 👌
@@adibahmed10 I've been a teacher for years in several schools. I believe this is accurate.
I hope those kids realize they are witnessing history.
sometimes its cold. wtf is that.
Yes, we realize he's special. Most of us choose to wear hats -- Canada is cold as hell, inside and outside.
Josh MacDonald I made no criticism of headwear! I'm a hat man myself. The Prof has sported some fine Fedoras in the past too. Ask him about some of those early TV appearances.
I thank them for paying thousands so I can watch this.
These are going to be like the Feynman Lectures on Physics. And we get to see them as they come out. What a time to be alive.
I took more notes 17 minutes into this video, than i did in my last 2 years studying psychology. Thanks Jordan 😁
I will so privileged that I can watch it for free at home and even pause Mr Peterson.
I am outrageously happy to see you posting so many videos! Thank you so much professor. You are a boon to this world
Is that Runescape tuna?
Chily lmao it sure is. Bizarre avatar but I like it
I've learnt more from Peterson in two weeks of watching his lectures then my own three year bachelor degree
Amazingly relatable. His ability to explain complicated material to the average person demands respect and appreciation from me.
It’s March 28th, 2020....I’ve been in quarantine for 3 weeks now, and by rewatching all of Dr. Peterson’s lectures I’m staying sane. Thank you, sir!
Watching these on quarantine. And my room is clean. And our paradigm is shifting
Wish I'd had a teacher like him.
Very grateful to have him now
thanks professor I've had no real education before and I love thinking about this stuff so it helps to quench my thirst for learning and I thank you for taking the time to share this with us all . thanks professor
Man , i can't even describe how good i feel to have found Peterson
I saw Jordan speak in NYC one week ago, Feb 2022. Still speaking about presuppositional thinking, Hume's gap-problem of not being able to derive an ought from an is. He is even still mentioning and presumably speaking to guys like Harris, who didn't even know his name in 2017.
It's fascinating watching him through the years, chewing and chewing and chewing on these same issues. Makes me hopeful I may one day understand some of my own ideas well enough to articulate them. In a world that believes truth is only made and used as a tool of power to beat and berate one another, Jordan is modeling the bravery of hoping and searching for a truth that can be discovered, not manufactured.
Thank you, @Jordan B Peterson
I tried the thing he said about writing about an emotional experience. I wrote 3 pages, single spaced, about a small series of events in my life and broke down in tears. This guy know's what he's talking about. If there's anything from your past that is holding you back, I highly recommend doing this.
31:39
JBP: "Why bother paying attention to something that works? You just don't."
JBP's computer: "And I took that personally."
The fact that these lectures are free surprises me every time. And what do you say when you get something for nothing? Thank you!!!
I love this man so much...this is so valuable... and so important for humanity in general. I hope you get out of the Chaos and get better mr Peterson, I miss you.
I love watching how flummoxed he gets when the projector goes screwy
I was wondering why no one commented on that!
Mark Walters
His representational structure of the world is not matching reality. So he is experiencing dissolution.
haha
Yes, it's a chaotic anomaly in his order structure, which presents as an obstacle to his goal-directed behaviour, which gives rise to negative emotion. hahaha
lol you just made my day thnxs
The number of epiphanies I have watching these lectures is incredible. "So that's why I did/do that!" Every 5 min
These Lectures are Gold.
This week I am studying Jean Piaget and decided to look for something I can learn and stumbled upon this video. Just like to say you opened my eyes to a whole new meaning of the world of psychology. Thankyou so much. I hope I can find more every week with you sir. Have a good day.
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When my niece was 3, my sister (her mum) would try this method of reinforcing tidying up.
She would ask her to put rubbish in the bin and then smile and say well done when she did it.
It worked very well. Well in the long run anyway. The problem was that to stat with, for about 6 months, my niece went through a phase of just throwing anything and everything in the bin. It was pretty funny, but also really annoying.
Hilarious :D
A dragon axe is actually better than a steel axe, especially in the woodcutting guild.
ironman btw
Stop playing Runescape and clean your room!
... Actually a less tedious exercise.
@@ssholum not unless you bot.... ;)
Skooomaa
Amazing. Your work has literally changed my life over the last 5 months. Thankfully I found your content! Keep doing your work, and fight the good fight!
Piaget's theory really is quite beautiful. Can't wait to start the readings.
2021, I’m still re watching and learning something new every time. Waw! Thank you for this wealth of information, you are remarkable.🙏🏽
I watched Jordan's old lecture "Reality and the Sacred" many times recently.
This was a lecture from 2009 I think. That lecture was so enlightening and exciting.
In some of the more recent lectures I felt Jordan felt a bit exhausted or lifeless in comparision with that older speech. I thought, that maybe it has to simply to do with age but maybe he also had a lot of more stress since his recent public exposure. I did not get that same emotion from his more recent lectures.
But in this lecture he was really on fire and seemed really on his A-Game. He seemed way more lively here.
I hope you take good care of your health and your life Jordan - I hope I can still enjoy your lectures and your knowledge and use it to improve my own life for a long time!
You definitely had me questioning a lot of my previous beliefs about the world, thanks for your work!
Cheers, Philipp
Jordan's 'intensity' doesn't seem to be as close as previous lectures for sure. I personally enjoyed his ruthlessness in "Advertising Atheism" with Steve Paikin. I love the vigour of his older videos. All the professors I've had only get applauses on the last day of class. Jordan is the first professor that I've heard applauses for after regular lectures. Hoping he's taking care of the body.
Yeah you are right, the intensity and vigour was not really there in the more recent ones. To be fair though, the one I was referring to was from now over 7 years ago. People change all the time, and I guess you cannot expect a person to be the same for their whole life.
His genius is still the same - I think it is just a little bit sad, since it is a tad less jaw-dropping than before, but still highly informative. Thanks for your comment!
"I did not get that same emotion from his more recent lectures"
I know right hes so fresh in these. I cant believe the views arent raking up. This is also why I admire Peterson so much. Even before this whole fiasco he was uploading stuff for those of us who found tremendous value from it.
I am kind of sad that I always seem to discover interesting stuff in general, always after the fact, when it already has been around for years and years. Whether it is music I now like (bands), interesting people, new ideas or whatever. But I guess you cannot keep an eye out for something you were not looking for before, so you kinda have to stumble upon it almost accidentally and then get great value out of it nonetheless. It is really remarkable in a way how that happens.
He might not be as energetic, but the content is still as good, I think. It seems like he has more students this year, because he doesn't adress them as much. That might be because they are not as willing to speak when there's a camera behind them and they know how many people are watching the lectures on TH-cam. If I was Peterson, I would be a bit more nervous when I knew how many people were watching the lectures. He might be stressed, but there are also other possible explanations.
This lecture speaks to me. It articulates what I have struggled with all my life.
Next levelling my parenting.
I've never even dreamed of university as my socioeconomic status made it just plain impossible without some preemption of fiscal success. So seeing University students rate these online lectures highly brings me joy; knowing that I have access to free, high quality education brings me joy.
I've got addicted to this man!
Peterson’s “little dance” with the girl at 1:06:05 is so freaking funny lol.
oh man I was laughing so hard :D
I dont know how to thank you enough.You make it easier to breathe! Love from Norway!
"Our life is frittered away by detail. Simplify, simplify." Henry David Thoreau
10:18 "That seems to be a completely unnecessary phenomena." I'm crying
Watching this series of lectures from peterson is probably the smartest thing ive ever spent my time doing.
"A bear is a kind of solution to a set of problems, and they're the problems that the bears environment presents" this is one of the nicest ways I've seen someone explain a species from a Darwinian perspective at around 1:01:30
This is my favorite yet of all the jbp lectures I’ve watched. I love the speed of it, and then: “It’s more complicated than that by a large margin.”
I can't tell if Peterson's lectures are structured or not. Always fascinating this guy's ability to pour his mind out. Holy shit, I have thought many of the same things, like how a baby knows how to smile or 'knows' it is smiling! There is most certainly a feedback mechanism there too, the smiling baby is happier because they smiled - this is the backwards concept of 'acting as if'. Part of that procedural knowledge. Dr. Peterson is never boring, that is for sure. I really do hope he returns to his discussion with Sam Harris too. There is so much they can talk about if they break that logjam. I really do suggest you guys take turns. By that I mean, take turns following the other's lead. Allow the other's indulgences in two separate installments.
agentssith His lectures are structured, otherwise his slides wouldn’t fit. They are perhaps not scripted, although I suspect he has thought about the truth of each statement.
The last 30 min of this lecture are amazing. Completely profound material. Thank you sir.
Intellectual stimulant is the right expression for this man's lecture.
This lecture is helping me talk to my parents about our relationship and helping me to address my failures. Word fall short for my thanks.
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I love how excited he gets about peekaboo, haha! :)
These are some random thoughts but Peterson's lecture is helping to fuel them. The last few days I've been thinking about what I call the "holy family". Father-Mother-Brother-Sister. And how fascinating it is that the same person can exist inside this framework but overtime, change roles. One lives as a son with a sister, mother, and father, and then 20 years later lives as a father with a wife, son, and daughter. And even if we didn't have a father growing up, we have a psychological "father" built into us, and a psychological mother, and sister, and so on. In other words we have these archetypes and we can't escape them. Western Civilization has been slowly but steadily erasing the father from the family. But something always has to take place of that. In the same way that the death of God leads to ideology and/or nihilism, the death of the father leads to much of the same, as the father in a child's life plays the role of "God the Father". One is protected by the father, one loves the father, and one fears the father. But if there is no father then one begins to love/fear and seek protection from some abstract version of the father, such as the state, or gangs, or capitalism, or communism, or what have you.
I can not thank you enough the fact that you are sharing those classes with everyone. You are just ....incredible.
Jordan Peterson’s brain must be going so fast & he’s got a million thoughts all at once. i find it amazing he’s still able to essentially dumb down what he’s trying to say in a coherent way so people like me who are studying journalism & must finish an assignment can understand what in the hell he means as i procrastinate and experience a mastermind at work.
4 out of 20! Thank you Mr. Peterson. As a post grad who can't get into graduate school, this is a great way to keep learning about my favorite field.
"And you don't predict it, by the way, you desire it!"
Mind blown.
Thank you Dr.Peterson. Really grateful to internet for making it possible to watch Dr, Peterson from the small corner😊His thoughts are just amazing
Out of this series of videos, this one has been the most interesting so far. Watching lectures is my favorite hobby now.
If anyone is curious, the story of the concert pianist with the damaged hippocampus is in the book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For a Hat." It's a collection of anecdotes surrounding patients with neurological damage and is very fascinating.
In terms of substance, all your lectures from over the years are great. With these new videos, the new production value has made them even better.
You are one in “millions”. Your wife , is so supportive and with you in what you do that, your lectures and travels to teach people many valuable sensible lessons are so needed in this crazy world. Thank-you!
You can hear Peterson filling in the gap's in Sam's comprehension of their debate coming through loud and clear.
Peter Rulon-Miller
I just wish peterson was better at debating so those two could criticize each other equally in real time and actually sort out their logical errors. Sam outright dismisses the 'ought from is' dilemma, and peterson ironically relies on post-structuralist critiques of truth to maintain that pragmatic usefulness is the same thing as truth, simply because that is the best we can do.
Neither of them outline a rigorous absolute moral truth, but instead settle for alleged objective observations which they then use to draw an 'ought' from an 'is.'
There are pragmatic reasons to develop a moral system. These more systems are useful; they are not actually true. That's not what truth is.
This is a good lecture, but for those wanting a better understanding of these kinds of issues I recommend Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason", wherein he gives a very accurate description of how the mind works on say a data processing and symbolic level, not getting into neuro-science as such had not been invented. But Kant's book CPR is the basis of cognitive science and computer programming.
It is impossible to condense CPR because it is dense, which is typical of many Germans of the 18th century.
I don't know for sure but I suspect Piaget based much of his underlying theory on Kant.
Here is a nutshell that is far from comprehensive:
1) The human is born with a mind that is blank of data, but does have templates or concepts into which data is fit, and no data that does not fit becomes known data...such data is excluded without even knowing it has been excluded.
2) The foundational base concept, on which all other concepts rely, is spatio-temporal reasoning, meaning we can only think or concieve of the world in space, or dimensions, and time, and those two, space and time are completely linked, can't have one without the other.
3) Then there is something else, sorting and sifting. Since all data is arranged or slotted by the one template there is great similarity between data sets. The sorting and sifting engine can compare data sets and find the significant similarities between some of them which then allows for guesses at general principles that may be governing the data sets. So for instance wave behavior in ponds resembled wave behavior of sound waves and frequencies beyond sound and so on. Each data set of different wave behaviors was gathered only in certain particular situations but then sorting and sifting suggested something in common. So obviously data about apples did not contribute to wave theory.
4) the math engine: the math engine itself is part of the conceptual template and is already there before any data is recieved. The math engine and he conceptual template may be one and the same. Because humans can tell that math is self-validating it is used as a test to determine if suspected general rules might be candidates for general rules that are as self-evident as math. So from disparate slices of wave data a math-consistent set of general rules was worked out, and that set of rules suggested wave frequencies may extend all the was up and down. With the math-consistency providing some certainty about the guess, humans will make the effort to find missing data which is still needed to prove out the guess. And so all sorts of contraptions were build by scientists to trap or trick other frequencies into revealing themselves, and that worked well, and led to general electo-magnetic wave theory.
5) For some reason Kant did not explain but pointed out, humans seek data to fill the empty templates. This is what we see happening when infants and toddlers touch and taste everything. They are not yet seeing the world clearly, as their templates are mostly empty. By age of about 3 or 4 the toddler is actually seeing, hearing, etc the world pretty much the same as anyone older such as teens and adults. It's not that toddlers have blurry vision or a dull sense of smell, taste, touch, etc, it's that they have no idea what it is their sensing. When the templates begin to be filled then the human sees the world, but only in the shape or organization of that template.
6) Because humans are driven to seek data, as if the template itself demands more filling out, they seek up to infinity and down to infinity because the math underlying the template, or math being the template, readily suggests infinity like multiplication or division by 0.
Lastly, Kant noted that if the templates(which are the concepts), and the math that forms them or grounds them or is one and the same with them contain errors then A) we will never know and B) there could be more "stuff" (my word) going on around us to which we are totally and permanently blind. But we will just never know. So we can only work with what we have as no choice of another template is available to us. And then we might wonder what is more likely, that our most basic and fundamental tool for oraganizing the sensible world into consciousness is perfect, or imperfect? Still we will never know so we have to work with what we have.
With regards Piaget, Kuhn, others, I go primarily with a Kantian view that there are not revolutions in science or knowledge or anything but gradual filling out of the templates. Think of the templates as a database, and it's obvious that Kant's CPR forms the basic first idea of a database. We keep adding to the database and then sort and sift for similarities and differences to suggest general rules or partial general rules that then suggest more effort into finding out how valid those rules are, and if they are found valid or even 85% valid, such will often lead to finding new ways to manipulate the natural world. And with more and more data, higher level rules may emerge that would not emerge with less data.
Thank you for your recommendation and this beautifully summarized comment
Thank you for you time and interesting explanation, this is why I dwell in the comments section
Great comment.
Your last paragraph reminds me why I always think there is a solution to a problem, and it isn't the job to create the solution, but it's waiting to be found. Just a string of mathematical equation waiting to be grabbed or tried
I love his lectures. I learned so much, very smart and wise man.
Oliver Sacks wrote about the concert pianist who lost his ability to store long term memory in his book musicophillia and he made some fantastic observations it's a brilliant read that I highly highly recommend
Dr. Peterson. The story of you and your children in an airport when Mick was about 3 is so profound. It's probably deeper than i understand. This is what it said to me. You are a good father. You told them if they ever get lost just stop and sit down and you would find them. You had the foresight and they obeyed. At first you were holding their hand. Then you released them while in the midst of chaos. They followed someone they thought was you. Then they realized they were lost and remembered your commandment. What they did and what happened appears to me as an archetypal story. "Be still and Know I Am God." That was beyond brilliant! Good Dr., Thank You for all your inspiring help for me! You are no doubt a gift from the Big Father. Much love and God Bless you and yours!
Favorite quote from this lecture: "good micro-routine adaptation there chum"
Anyone else notice the two guys in the front row who appear to become friends over the course of these lectures? Wholesome.
10:15 "That seems to be a completely unnecessary pheonomena" lmao
having a notebook in which we can write our problems and
write and write a dialogue with ourselves
is a great idea
In other words "write that down." That's something I've still not made a habit of but, I keep hearing in some form or another that always boils down to "write that down."
This man has changed my outlook on life, Thank you Dr. Peterson.
His body language is very good. Very informative. Shows on another level how much he dominates this ideas. And how he abstracts them. Truly brilliant.
"What does it mean to be a good person? It's like pornography I know it when I see it."
fucking hilarious
I just want to give you a hug man, and say thank you.
Prof.jordan peterson you are my hero.
Everithing about you is admireable.
Everything*
Thank you for making all these amazing classes available for anybody, keep up with the good work!
I would love to have access to some of the tests or quizzes his students receive, just so I could see the form the questions tale and evaluate my own retention of these ideas.
Me too, let me know if your get them
Piaget is my favorite next to Peterson. Listening to Peterson lecture on him is just total mind candy.
This is a fantastic lecture. I am only 10 minutes in and I can tell I'm going to have to watch (and possibly read) everything this speaker has put on the internet.
Thank God for the few tech issues, so my brain can take a breath! :)
EVERYTIME this action hero says his last word of this lecture series, I expect the classroom to erupt with rapturous applause! They never do. Here's hoping they appreciate they are genuinely in the presence of greatness..
sometimes they actually do, i noticed it twice in the uploads of his maps of meaning lectures
I love it!
Professor Peterson has an amazing ability to put sophisticated concepts into easy to understand examples.
I am absolutely grateful for your life lessons, history lessons, and behavioral teachings. Thank you so very much, it has absolutely made me a better human being for myself, and for my children, and for my wife, and for society in general!!!
I am eternally grateful for your existence on this earth!
dammit, i could listen to dr. peterson's lectures for hours. he's a good enough storyteller that i think he could branch out into writing a novel
He really should. I'd definitely buy his novels.
I'm 65 now and it's funny how I understand so much of this from seeing what is in me. When i was 20 trying to study this I couldn't very well.
My god, I'm only 36min 58sec into this lecture, and I can't take any more in. Time for coffee. I love this man.
No person has ever given me goosebumps like Peterson. He says things that are so true that I feel it in my body. It is incredible.
That part where he talks about A.I. had me completely terrified. Artificial intelligence will be our demise if you ask me.
Άγγελος Καλαθάς have you listened to the most recent 2nd Elon Musk interview with Joe Rogan? It’s pretty exciting to hear we might get to be a part of that AI as cybernetic humans. But obviously that’s a terrifying possible future as well
42:00 public school in a nutshell
I see you like Mr Peterson, love the channel man. Watch all of your videos. Even those board repair ones lol
Didn't expect you here, not at all surprised tho.
I love these lectures! I am almost purely an auditory learner. Brilliant, comprehensible lectures like this from Dr. Peterson really are incredible for auditory learners. I find myself effortlessly absorbing hours of information. This also has much to do with Dr. Peterson's passion for teaching! Thank you Dr. Peterson!