Should Arber Xhekaj Have Been Suspended For Attacking Pare? | SDP
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- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the incident surrounding Arber Xhekaj, Patrik Laine and Cedric Pare. Should Arber Xhekaj have been suspended for attacking Pare form behind?
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If the refs wont police the game, the players will
Pare should have been ejected from the game for kneeing and been fined.
Too bad the refs mismanaged the game and Pare stayed in the game so that Xhekaj had to take it into his own hands.
Say what you want, but I'm still a big believer in "the Code"...Cedric Pare is a career minor leaguer who will never play in the NHL and Patrik Laine is (or at least was) a superstar. And Pare knew Laine would beat him, so he stuck his knee out to get whatever piece of him he could. That's reckless and dangerous regardless of who it's against. But again, that was Patrik Laine's knee he just blew up. This is a guy who's struggles with his game and his mental and physical health have been well documented. No one should be touching him in the PRESEASON! He and Pare are no where near the same caliber of player. A guy like that should not be allowed to get away with a stupid play like that. Total props to Xhekaj for sticking up for his teammate. This wasn't Bertuzzi-Moore, Pare was uninjured afterwards...Pare deserves a suspension, not Xhekaj
Pare should not have ran away expecting not to get jumped that being said arber still deserved the fine
Pare and Toronto did injure Laine because they know he is a better star player then overrated Matthews and Montreal should next game go after Matthews to pay back for Laine.
Funny how some people will say Laine was not going to do much, or won't be as good as X player ! We'll never know, cause someone took him out with a cheap shot, possibly ending the season and maybe his career ?
I can understand how it must be at least a bit shocking for Leafs fans to see someone stick up for a teammate, but Habs fans wouldn't have cared whether he got suspended or not, that's a teammate making up for terrible reffing and setting things right.
Hit on Tavares wasn't really late imo...Pezz was already committed and Tavares tried to dodge the hit so Pezz went into his hip and slid towards the leg...Pare was flat footed and tried to shift his leg left to get in Laine's way
U got the story wrong. He didn’t hit harder because he had no padding in the gloves. That makes no sense, he would hit weaker if that was the case . He dipped his hands in plaster to be as hard as concrete then put the gloves over them
I dont know the story, but physics wise that does actually make sense. The harder surface does more damage.
Now the plaster thing? Yeah that'll do it 😂
@@camc9225 A journeyman boxer all his career, Resto was convicted in 1986 and jailed for two and a half years, for assault, criminal possession of a weapon and conspiracy. Resto had illegally altered his gloves by removing the padding and soaking his hand wraps in plaster in a boxing match against Billy Collins Jr. This gave Resto an unfair advantage that damaged Collins' eyesight, with Resto giving him a torn iris and permanently blurred vision. Collins was unable to box again after the fight with Resto.
He did take padding out of the gloves also though
@@darthquaider54 I already covered that.
Habs fan here.. I totally agree with Jesse.. why is common sense impossible in sports? Its so exhausting.
glove on makes it less painful lol if boxers were fighting without gloves, the sport would be banned, guys would legit get killed fighting bare knuckles.
Exactly. And the match would be over in like 45 seconds
a lot of emphasis on the back of the head, couldn’t it be argued that the reason the shots were to the back of the head was because Pare refused to answer the bell? If he’d stood and fought like Perry did when JT got hurt then Wifi wouldn’t have got the back of his head.
OR, here me out. . . If Pare turns down the fight, don't blindside him. Get someone in his weight class to fight him. Or is the hypocritical Xhejaj who has thrown numerous injury inducing reckless hits in preseason and rookie games, the only one on the team willing to stick up for an injured teammate?
Saying it hurts more to get hit with gloves shows you have never been punched by bare knuckles. As someone who has taken many both ways I'll take padded gloves to the face any day over bony knuckles. Having thrown many punches i've never thought about backing it off to only 75% because i am bare knuckled. boxing gloves are not there to protect hands.
Some leafs fan are underestimated the actual habs hate for leafs, especially after Berube's recent comments about the whole situation.
Steve’s so dramatic.
Have you watched his LFR when they lose? lol.
@@red3here been watching him since 2008 when he was in his bedroom at his parents house. I’m seasoned veteran, but these days I can’t take it anymore
@@Ruddskies No one's forcing you to be here and watch, or comment. You could just leave, if it bugs you so much. Don't think anyone would miss you, least of all Steve.
@@Ruddskies it off-season content buddy
Boxers use gloves to reduce the potential harm. Xhekaj did the same.
To be honest the Ref need to do a better Job than that
Both TOR #83 Marshall Rifei LD and TOR #54 Cédric Paré C got remove from the game because they injured a player MTL #64 David Reinbacher (RD) and #92 Patrik Laine (RW/LW). We both guys out no hit from Xhekaj on Paré until next game which will be never.
The NHL is a bush league.
The second Pare decided to take a cheep shot on Liane and knock him out for the season was the second he volunteer to destroyed by Montreal's tough guy. Pare made the decision and paid the price. Even though he turtled like a wimp, he earned his consequences. In fact he got off lightly. The rest of the punks in the NHL took notice. In addition, the refs who were too busy sitting on their thumbs, soon realized that not enforcing the rules has a price. Sadly the only one who was injured was Patrik Liane, who will likely miss the season.
The fine xhekaj got is the appropriate punishment. If you think xhekaj deserves a suspension and paré doesnt... congrats, youre a true leaf fan/hypocrite
Ref should had call a penalty on thre play to calm evryone down if the role was reverse and matthews would had his season ended on a play by a ramdom ahl player you guy be screaming rn
Thanks for ruing the chance of Laine comeback. As if there was more reasons to hate the leafs
thing is , not suspending him is litteraly saying : yeah our ref failed so we wont be severe on xhejak. Giving xhejak for example , 5 games , would be saying * yeah our ref did a good job and we're backing their decision *
either way refering is a joke and so is the nhl and stupid player like paré
You must be a habs fan.
One of the morale is that NHL needs to rethink pre season games. All those ECHL/AHL caliber players who want to make a name for themselves are taking reckless decisions on the ice. I'm tired of seeing elite / all-stars player getting injured in pre season games by players whose chances to regularly play in the NHL are as slim as a flat earther finding a cure for cancer.
I'm not sure I have a solution for that btw, but sending AHL clubs vs NHL clubs is not a good look. And MTL did the same thing to the Leafs a game prior. Either have it so there is at least a balance on both teams, and/or have a special penalty length, more punitive suspension' system, and/or have special team fines during preseason.
Pare is a pansy for not upholding the code
Also the refs completely lost control of the game. You KNOW something was bound to happen. You HAVE to police the game and expel Pare to prevent further violence. If Pare gets a game misconduct then everyone is happy and no punching has to happen.
And lo and behold, Xhekaj clocks Stützle in retribution for Dach against Ottawa the next game! DoPS are CLOWNS!
While I do think it’s a suspension, Pare knows something is coming, turtles and doesn’t even try to defend himself. Dude you just injured a beloved a player, you have to answer for it. Should’ve been more than a fine but we wouldn’t have cared had he gotten suspended, a response was needed here.
Not an Eastern fan. Have no hate for the Habs or love for the Leafs. But not suspending Xhekaj after that just greenlights goons around the league just jumping people instead of squaring up.
Kucherov elbows somebody? Punch to the back of the head. Draisaitl spears someone? Punches to the back of the head. Quinn Hughes slew foots someone? Punch to the back of the head. Pathetic for any fan to endorse what he did...
As a habs fan, i thank you three for your reasoning. If the argument is that pare shouldve been fined and xhekaj suspended, i can agree to that argument. Either you punish both, or, as adam says, you recognize that's just part of "the game" that the league management wants. The only thing i'm angry about is the lack of action by the league against knee on knee contacts. Both the lucas raymond and patrik laine ones. Detroit got lucky and raymond is fine, but to me its like, you put it in the rulebook. Technically almost all penalties are unintentional. Most players don't mean to swing their stick in someone else's face. It still gets penalized. Most players don't mean to trip the opponent they're chasing. It still gets penalized. Why is it different when it comes to knee hits? Especially since those are 10x more dangerous than a stick between the skates
A fist to the face will do a lot more damage to the face of the recipient, and it will also raise the likelihood of the punching hurting his hand or wrist in the process as many things can go wrong and especially if that person is not traunin how to punch while protecting your wrist from flailing or fracturing your knuckles.
He kept his gloves on in this instance to protect his hand from the back of Paré's helmet, and he was in a psychopathic self-state due to the knee on knee that Paré did on Laine. Xhekaj doesn't care and went to avenged Laine in his own psychodynamic landscape.
Steve just revealed he's never been in a hockey fight, or he has soft wrists and knuckles.
This was a case of the league saying, “the refs messed up.” If Pare got a major penalty or harsher, I don’t think Xhekaj goes after him. If you know not calling a penalty on an injury is going to invite a fight and you’re not going to hold Pare responsible when he commits the infraction, you have given tacit approval to Montreal to return the favor. Unwritten rules compensate for missing rules. It’s not perfect, but MLB took it very seriously and throws pitchers out for hit batsmen, if necessary. This felt necessary for an ejection and they didn’t do it
Simple question: how many Habs fans are calling for Pezzetta to be suspended and wishing he had been jumped by Reaves?
Steve, if it had been reversed you'd not be saying what you did lol.
The fine was enough, but Pare should have been fined as well. Plus the refs should face something! The calls that game.... ugh.... both ways.
What would the NHL’s stance be if it was “inadvertent” contact to the head and Laine was knocked out? Players are supposed to be held responsible for what they do on the ice, intentional or not. Most penalties called in games are unintentional. Pare made contact with Laine’s knee, it’s a penalty. No i don’t think he did it on purpose, but he still needs to be held accountable for his actions on the ice. Everyone, including Parre knew what was coming and he should have grabbed hold and take his lumps.
I will start by saying I am a leafs fan and i think there should of been a 5 minute major given for the knee on knee and probably a fine it's not like he is Marchment. Xhekaj on the other hand should get similar to what Bertuzzi got for the incident with Moore the NHL is setting a very dangerous president here being so lenient on this
IF Perry had to fight for JT, scrub mcgrub here had to answer for his knee, alas he's a coward
Xhekaj should have to box a real fighter with gloves on let see how much of a badman u really are
You guys are the most biased tbh, this is a leafs podcast, but don't act like you are objective sports guys, if someone would do the EXACT SAME to any of your top 4 Reaves wouldve done the EXACT SAME and you would defend him.
I think they were pretty unbiased and fair tbh.
They admitted Pare was in the wrong and deserved a penalty or suspension and that Xhakej was equally wrong for his reaction.
tell me you haven't played hockey without telling me you played hockey if you think a fist is softer than a glove...
Xhekaj's fine is a warning. He pulls something like this, or any other suspensible play this season, he's going to get the book thrown at him.
As a Habs fan Arber should have gotten at least a game. And Arber did what he had to do
Commenting before the video to see if they bring up Morgan Rielly cross checking Ridly Greig in the back of the head.
Edit: they did not. But did bring up a hypothetical of someone swinging a stick at someones head. Interesting
They have said multiple times that Rielly should have gotten suspended...
As a Leafs fan, Tavares should be suspended for robbery
Hey guys. Love your show. I occasionally watch, and definitely watch everytime you talk about the Habs. I just want to address one thing you said concerning the Pezetta hit on Tavares. Can you please be honest for a second? Watch the replay. If Tavares wouldn't be such a 😺, and he would actually take a hit instead of do everything you can not to be touched, he wouldn't have got clipped in the legs. Look at it!!! Take the hit!!! But he doesn't. And that's why Pez hit his legs. There was nothing dirty about the hit. And by the way. I think the rational ones in Habs land know Paré didn't mean to injure Laine. He did how ever got caught flat footed and he did take the knee out. It was a donkey move! I didnt like it! He should've known better. Its devastating to lose Laine before the season even starts.
Good luck this year! Hopefully everyone stays safe! ✌🏻
Toronto took out a star player from Montreal because they know that Laine is better then overrated Matthews and Montreal should go after Matthews in there next game
Laine > Overrated Matthews
Larkin punched the wrong person when he got up
Accidents happen,(knee on knee is like 80% an accident) in most cases. The attack on Pare was on purpose. Nothing more can be said about it. The NHL and mostly refs should be sued by the players for missed calls and or fined by the NHL for crap refing.
Yeah bare knuckle boxing is well known to be a gentler affair than boxing with gloves on... 🤣
3 idiots.
Nah opening night there’s a fight times three
What’s stopping one of the Habs from going after a star on Toronto because they did it to Laine? Forget about Pare, why wouldn’t I tell someone to take a swing at Marner for the hell of it?
Worth every penny.
Pare should retire right now, before someone retires him.
Pareshould have fought after his illegal hit
LAST
Wait till October 9th it’s gonna be sweet 😘 get some Kleenex leafs fans
I'm not really sure this whole thing is Pare's fault. Yeah, he stepped into Laine's path.. but his leg is still underneath him.. the problem. Laine's leg is extended. Getting sick of hearing about it. I'm not sure this was more than an unfortunant accident... if it was joe nobody... you'd not be saying a damn thing. I think the one thing EVERYONE is missing... Why NOT pare getting hammered by player safety? I hear it wouldn't matter.. but is that really it? Or maybe they didn't see what analysts WANT to see and believe they saw.
@@ronpeacock9939 if you step into a players path via extending your knee outwards, which is what happened, it's a penalty. People have been suspended for it before.
@@g4111 Yes, except if you look at it.. he didn't extend his knee outward (laine's was though) he kept his legs under him to stay balanced. His knee was under his body... and his body made contact before the Laine's knee hits his leg (it actually was below Pare's knee).. again if this was NOT laine but some AHL nobody, NOBODY WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IT...
@@ronpeacock9939 I don't think I can agree that he didn't extend the knee outwards. I think most people are willing to admit it should have been a penalty. You're responsible for your limbs the same way you are your stick. Doesn't matter who it is.
@@g4111🙌
Laines' leg was out like 3 feet to the left. Wtf is everyone talking about???? He tried to split the Leafs like he playing nhl24
The man has been in this league for years….Enough time to know, especially pre-season, to have ur head on a swivel!!!!….grow up.
Arber should 100% been suspended
No. But if he did , pare should too .
Laine did the splits crossing the line and hit a stationary player did you guys miss that part ???
I hope this is sarcasm... the splits? Stationary? I guess you never played THE GAME.
Season suspension
Arber gonna need a barber after reaves splits his wig
Xhekaj is younger, taller and heavier than Reeves who is on his way to retirement-- what do you think Reeves could do that a younger, heavier Kassian couldn't?
Reaves lmao, that weak guy will get demolished by the sheriff
Reaves isn't gonna play, he is a bum
@@milan99cz hopefully he isn't playing. I'd hate to see what he would do to xhekaj if he was
@@MyDarkestFriend younger, taller, heavier, less experienced, less skilled, lesser career