“I know that there are some people who feel extremely validated by understanding BPD through a purely trauma lens, but that has never been the case for me. Whenever I heard people say that BPD was “just a trauma response” I felt like there was something especially wrong with me, because the only things that I could point to in my life that felt traumatic were everyday events that my peers seemed to recover from without major incident. I thought that if these events could affect me in this way, then I must just be especially weak. It turns out I was already different from the beginning. Understanding how my emotional sensitivity and untreated ADHD interacted with my environment to produce BPD helped me to have less self judgment, which was critical for my self-esteem and recovery.” ~Xannie What about you? How do you understand your BPD? Drop a comment to share!
That’s a really interesting way to look at it. I always felt quite relieved and comforted by the idea that a lot of my unhealthy behaviours could be linked back to a traumatic event. It helped me see a way to not making those mistakes again. But it still doesn’t answer the question of “lots of people have it worse, why do I find it so traumatic” rhetoric. Watching this, maybe it’s a balance of both. Maybe I can be different, without being completely broken and incapable of change. Anyway. Thanks!
twinsies! severe adhd and early life trauma. it actually feels very invalidating when folks chalk it up to JUST a trauma response. something about me is definitely different. even when i worked through and made peace w/ my trauma, i'm still bpd. just thanks for sharing this. there is definitely something to personality/bpd disorder pathology that lives OUTSIDE of trauma response.
I agree. Yes, it can be childhood trauma. I had childhood trauma and grew- up in a dysfunctional setting. I've had my issues , but not BPD. I'm also sick of it always being the parents. Trauma can come from many sources at many ages. There is now evidence that there is a genetic component.
This feels like my story. I hope my therapist takes me seriously. I don’t need this diagnosis, I don’t NEED to have BPD for it to make sense, but BPD does make sense, and I don’t want people to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and invalidate how crippling it is being inside my own head.
Yeah and than you realize that your home was a war zone and you totally got the ADHD from trauma and the sensitivity is a common trauma response. So yeah.
“Maybe for you! My home was loving, available and supportive 👍” ⬆️ Was what I commented back at first - another user pointed out that was insensitive, and I admit I probably was more blunt than I should have been! Sorry about that - sometimes I think about things extremely literally and don’t consider how others may interpret it. What I meant by what I said is that what you describe is totally possible - there are definitely lots of people with that experience (and if that was yours, I’m sorry!) It just wasn’t true for me. There are multiple paths to the same destination 👍
@@carcarbinx98 I didn’t mean it in an insensitive way - it sounded like OP was trying to tell me that my experience was not, in fact, my experience. I meant it very literally - that it may be true for them but not for me. If I misunderstood, I apologize!
Eh? Lots of us aren’t neurodiverse, and have like, way too much that went fucked. Its also complicated as many move towards CPTSD rather than BPD as their disgnosis - I feel like I ended up with many PDs as well as CPTSD, and didn’t show any BPD traits until my mid 20s, which got way worse in my 30s
Totally understand! To be clear, I’m not making the claim that EVERYONE with BPD is neurodivergent. What I am saying is that everyone, neurodivergent or not, is a product of how they were born, and how that interacts with their environment. And for some of us, especially those who are neurodiverse, it might be especially important to understand how we were born because of how that informs our recovery path. What I am responding to in this video is when people make the claim that BPD is ONLY a result of trauma and nothing else, which unfortunately happens quite often. My parents, in particular, were treated pretty badly by mental health professionals who simply assumed that they were at fault for my BPD. They were nothing but loving and supportive towards me.
Not a misdiagnosis in this case. Although ADHD and BPD can be confused for each other, they are also relatively common co-occurring disorders. We did a whole episode on it last year: th-cam.com/video/VyY4hSlIsUg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CEUejPIvPAEsFrbT
“I know that there are some people who feel extremely validated by understanding BPD through a purely trauma lens, but that has never been the case for me.
Whenever I heard people say that BPD was “just a trauma response” I felt like there was something especially wrong with me, because the only things that I could point to in my life that felt traumatic were everyday events that my peers seemed to recover from without major incident.
I thought that if these events could affect me in this way, then I must just be especially weak.
It turns out I was already different from the beginning. Understanding how my emotional sensitivity and untreated ADHD interacted with my environment to produce BPD helped me to have less self judgment, which was critical for my self-esteem and recovery.” ~Xannie
What about you? How do you understand your BPD? Drop a comment to share!
My autism symptoms were a key factor in developing BPD, along with trauma and a genetic component
That’s a really interesting way to look at it. I always felt quite relieved and comforted by the idea that a lot of my unhealthy behaviours could be linked back to a traumatic event. It helped me see a way to not making those mistakes again.
But it still doesn’t answer the question of “lots of people have it worse, why do I find it so traumatic” rhetoric.
Watching this, maybe it’s a balance of both. Maybe I can be different, without being completely broken and incapable of change.
Anyway. Thanks!
Dialectics - AND 😊
Your explanation is so helpful and validating ❤
twinsies! severe adhd and early life trauma. it actually feels very invalidating when folks chalk it up to JUST a trauma response. something about me is definitely different. even when i worked through and made peace w/ my trauma, i'm still bpd.
just thanks for sharing this. there is definitely something to personality/bpd disorder pathology that lives OUTSIDE of trauma response.
this feels like someone went inside my head and put the thoughts into words that I never could. holy shit.
Me too. Trauma 👋, emotionally sensitive 👋, adhd 👋
I agree. Yes, it can be childhood trauma. I had childhood trauma and grew- up in a dysfunctional setting. I've had my issues , but not BPD. I'm also sick of it always being the parents. Trauma can come from many sources at many ages. There is now evidence that there is a genetic component.
This feels like my story. I hope my therapist takes me seriously. I don’t need this diagnosis, I don’t NEED to have BPD for it to make sense, but BPD does make sense, and I don’t want people to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about and invalidate how crippling it is being inside my own head.
I don't really know anything about this but you just sound so intelligent put together I'm going to follow
That is SPOT ON!!
I been tru crazy shit but like she said i was off before.
I was born emotionally sensitive, but abandoned by my parent at age 9 also…. I was just told about BPD :(
I’m so sorry to hear about that! 🫂
I think the genetic component is an extremely important element
that's true very much. But why are BPD people so bad to others ?
Preach, girl.
Example i say even devil on my shoulder dont know wht might come out of my mouth till it does
Got a lot of love for this video
Love the nails 🤩
I'm going to share this with people when they don't understand me
I say its the step sister to cptsd .... I have bp2 and bpd...
Yeah and than you realize that your home was a war zone and you totally got the ADHD from trauma and the sensitivity is a common trauma response. So yeah.
“Maybe for you! My home was loving, available and supportive 👍”
⬆️ Was what I commented back at first - another user pointed out that was insensitive, and I admit I probably was more blunt than I should have been! Sorry about that - sometimes I think about things extremely literally and don’t consider how others may interpret it.
What I meant by what I said is that what you describe is totally possible - there are definitely lots of people with that experience (and if that was yours, I’m sorry!) It just wasn’t true for me. There are multiple paths to the same destination 👍
Congratulations. Someone was coming to you with their POV and you brought up an insensitive thing to say as an argument.
@xannibelle
@@carcarbinx98 I didn’t mean it in an insensitive way - it sounded like OP was trying to tell me that my experience was not, in fact, my experience. I meant it very literally - that it may be true for them but not for me. If I misunderstood, I apologize!
@@carcarbinx98 I may have accidentally been too blunt - thanks for pointing it out, I’ll amend my previous comment!
To help try and educate people x
Eh? Lots of us aren’t neurodiverse, and have like, way too much that went fucked. Its also complicated as many move towards CPTSD rather than BPD as their disgnosis - I feel like I ended up with many PDs as well as CPTSD, and didn’t show any BPD traits until my mid 20s, which got way worse in my 30s
Totally understand! To be clear, I’m not making the claim that EVERYONE with BPD is neurodivergent.
What I am saying is that everyone, neurodivergent or not, is a product of how they were born, and how that interacts with their environment. And for some of us, especially those who are neurodiverse, it might be especially important to understand how we were born because of how that informs our recovery path.
What I am responding to in this video is when people make the claim that BPD is ONLY a result of trauma and nothing else, which unfortunately happens quite often. My parents, in particular, were treated pretty badly by mental health professionals who simply assumed that they were at fault for my BPD. They were nothing but loving and supportive towards me.
P.s. well said. Good video
Mmmm… sounds a bit like a “victim rant “? Just saying
Missdiagnosed with ADHD?
Not a misdiagnosis in this case. Although ADHD and BPD can be confused for each other, they are also relatively common co-occurring disorders. We did a whole episode on it last year: th-cam.com/video/VyY4hSlIsUg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CEUejPIvPAEsFrbT
lame now people are throwing this around 🤮