Been in the gym over a decade and not once have I ever seen someone harass or insult an obese person trying to get healthy. They are too insecure to go to the gym and they find a way to blame other people.
So true, I also see everybody is so nice, helpings when asked or if someone see you having trouble. Every morning I go, I see a group of senior folks working out together and chatting with the “gym bros”
Also you could workout at home that's what I do way better and less expensive some people just like to make excuses for reasons why they can't go or do curten things to make themselves feel better
I've never gone to a gym because I'm always scared to go because I don't know what I'm doing and I am overweight it's just really scary and it really shouldn't be because there are really good people out there like you who will drop everything to help people like me but then there's the insane people who ruin it for the other people
That will be good cause people who consider breathing is racist they gonna die(cause didnt breath enough oxygen) soon anyway p.s. I sick of people who put random word + phobia like Phobia mean Scared or fear of something NOT What you hate of.
Technically some think that white people are actually evil and need to die. Like white people actually exist just to screw with other races. So existing is racist.
Breathing is cultural appropriation. What color skin did the first human being to breathe have? Then it was stolen by white people and now all white people act like they invented breathing.
In the moment, I'm Pegasus all the way. Five seconds outside of the situation, I'm Connor trying to figure out how to rewind time, or at least bullet point everything I have to apologize for. 🤣🤣
“Why do you think fat people are unattractive?” Well why do you think acne is unattractive, why do you think being tall is attractive, why do you think good teeth are conductive? Because those are all aspects of a traditionally attractive person, and it is attractive to be thin. Some people prefer fat people. Some prefer short people, some prefer big boobs, some small boobs. It’s not discrimination, it’s called standards and everyone has different standards.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with preferances... If I get turned down for my body, hair or skin colour, etc. That's fine, I'm not their cup of tea.
@@bluebeka2458 Those kinds of human beings are disgusting, they don't want love they want an older more financially stable person to keep them upright. _They're leeches tbh._ The same for those who prefer younger people, might as well just take urself to a therapist because some people who are 60 go for 18 year olds and that's 🤮 Anyway don't be insecure about your age, that ain't on you. You keep loving urself and ur bound to find someone who loves u in return!!
imo its not these peoples weight thats a problem, its their personality. This way of thinking and these tiktoks are basically sabotaging themselves with the way they talk and react. There’s a thin line between positivity and toxicity.
agreed, they have a negative personality imo, just looking at the bad things just bc bad things happen to them on a daily basis. ik its very hard to try to look at the ups in those times, but always try to look in a positive way to brighten your own mood, youll enjoy life a bit more. and im like pretty sure nobody/barely anybody bats an eye when a fat person walks by or when a skinny person passes by and theyre thinking "omg that person is so fat". if they always think like that, then im very sorry for their mindset and they should try to not look at the negatives sm!
I don't get why so many people get so pressed when they're excluded from a preference. It's. A. Pre-fer-ence. By definition of the word, someone is gonna be excluded from it, and if that's you, then tough tiddies, that's how the cookie crumbles, move on. Like if someone said "Oh I don't date guys without a six pack" I'd just be like "Aah that kinda sucks for me" and then move on with my day, why must people strive to be liked by everybody all the time, that's something that you learn or should have learned is impossible in your like teen years
absolutely agreed! im not gonna fucking bring the damn earth down with me just because someone doesnt find me attractive! some of these individuals are always facing the negatives in everyday lifes where they think EVERYTHING that happens to them is a bad thing and doesnt happen to anyone else. just as your example, ive talked to some girls who has a preference for big guys and they would turn down a guy who is very built like a bodybuilder, so this absolutely doesnt just happen to fat individuals!
Also why would anyone want to date a person who doesn't find them attractive? You're not their preference forcing them to date you because it's offensive otherwise will not make them any more attracted to you. I don't think people control what they find attractive and it's creepy to tell them otherwise.
It's because of the change in education not letting children build experiences. And constantly promoting including everyone so children don't ever learn that some people just won't like you. As a teenager I am ashamed to see what the modern education system is doing to my generation.
When she was saying that fatphobia is “rooted in racism” this is actually a real talking point on Twitter. I can’t count the amount of times I’ve seen women say that the “accepted standard of beauty” was specifically chosen to be skinny white women to hurt and break down black women who apparently are just naturally big, I don’t know how true that last part is because I’ve seen plenty of thin black women, but apparently black people are just heavy set by nature and white people made skinny women the beauty standard because racism. It’s actually a very wide spread thing on Twitter, I’ve seen women say this a bunch.
I don't mind bigger people. I'd date a bigger person tbh. you can be comfortable in your own skin, granted you're not super unhealthy, like nikocado type diabetes. however, even if you don't want to change your body, that's fine, but don't hate on others for doing it. you're comfortable with your body, let others be comfortable with theirs.
To be fair that's what body positivity comes too I guess where you can actually stress test your body to see how far it can go and how capable of it is. The results would be a bonus, and you might eventually end up feeling better too.
I’ve been overweight before. I hated it. I wasn’t even that overweight, about 20 lbs or so. It felt horrible. I only just recently shed the pounds cuz I got serious about working out for real this time and actually got a gym membership instead of just doing push-ups and squats at home and wow I feel a lot better and also it helped me have a better relationship with food cuz I don’t feel the need to starve myself and feel guilty eating anymore cuz I know it’ll get burned off so fast I don’t care and I need the fuel now to keep working out. So it all works out. Where’s the racism here
For me it's not about the shape of body but it's actually for their health i worry about.. they using this cause to avoiding to exercise and to maintain their health..if doctors are asking them to lose a several pound later will be call fatphobic..
If your fat, just lose weight. If you don't want to, then stay fat, you do you. Just don't pull out some clarity type excuse and say it to me every waking minute of my life.
@@asunsfan8104 Ok, but to be fair, some genetic conditions make it VERY hard to lose weight even if you do all that. Hypothyroidism for example causes your metabolism to slow down drastically.
@@DeezNuts_X no. not really, genetics and poverty can have a big hand in that, and those things are very hard to escape. Not all fat people of course, some do just have bad diets and don't exercise.
On the last lady; I can see what she means by completely excluding someone as technically not being a preference, since preference often mean that I would've preferred this however I can also tolerate the other choice. Like liking cold weather yet being able to tolerate hot weather. However - preference still means that you would like something _more so_ than this other thing, to the point that you'd exclude that other thing, especially if it opposes your preference so much. It's also much more contextual when it comes to dating since you can't control the weather, however you can control who you date - So we're basically given the freedom to go for our preference more so than something that isn't preferred, and who would go with something they don't prefer? People prefer to not have children and may never get one since they don't think they're responsible, that doesn't mean they hate children entirely. This is basically common sense. Once you're given the freedom to always choose what you prefer, why should you chain that person down into this delusion that they don't have that freedom? Let them have their preference.
People don’t understand that beauty is subjective and it goes both ways. Men and women judge each other for having preferences while having preferences. It’s ridiculous.
i totally agree with this, we have the power to control who we love and who we want to love, we should be able to have that. some of these fat acceptance activists are always shoving down our throats that we MUST like them for their body, like i understand you want to be loved for who you are, but shoving it into someones face all the time ab how awesome or cool you are even tho youre fat doesnt really show a good personality nor have a very high confidence
I would never date a trans person so am I transphobic? I prefer bigger women am I hateful or exclusive to skinny women? No what this woman says makes no sense at all
Being in the gym as a teenage girl can be pretty scary, however I’ve gotten to the point where it doesn’t bother me as much anymore. Although I am much weaker then everyone else and it’s hard not to compare myself to men, but I try to remember how far I’ve come. And you’re right gym peiple are the nicest, some of the nicest people are grown men that tell me how strong I am for a young girl and then they help me and protect me like a daughter. I love gym people, although some girls are rude because I’m not “skinny” I’m strong it’s gonr from being a scary place to my safe space
For the one going off on the skinny girl’s cheat meal, while i don’t know much about dieting (though i imagine the sheer willpower to maintain a good one is tough) i do exercise and if you’ve done a particularly strenuous routine, be it weights, running or whatever you do, you’re ready to eat EVERYTHING that was on that table.
I'm overweight and I do love and appreciate my body. It's gone through lots of surgeries, scars, and different scenarios. My body survived a pulmonary embolism. However, self love isn't something that should only exist in your physical appearance. Once I'm better, I do plan on making massive changes so that I can be here on earth longer and do more things🤷🏻♀️ self love is more important than trying to have the whole internet love your body imo
@@D-D-D-Dora.E being fat is unhealty, dangerous and unattractive. That is my take. Do what what you will with it. I will not shame anyone as long as they don't promote it.
Nobody here is gonna talk about the fact that skinny people can feel fat or look fat to themselves because of body dysmorphia and telling them they aren’t allowed to say something that they feel as an insecurity and a hate towards themselves is completely unacceptable
Exactly. Skinny people cant say that they look fat or feel fat because society is gonna tell them that they are lucky for being skinny and not plus size. Im glad someone is pointing this out.
The girl complaining about hate comments kind of has a point. If a fat person is actually loosing weight and on a diet and exercising, they still get rude comments (irl and on social media) if they sometimes eat a larger amount of food or something unhealthy. It is not always a valid assumption that they're eating like that 3 times a day every day, and she has a point that it isn't the business of strangers or acquaintances to comment
of course theyre going to because the put themselves in that position but also no matter what you do in life you could be a billionaire with a great body, people are always going to try to hate on you. and it is unhealthy to be 250 its unhealthy to be 230 (in most cases). something yall dont want to talk about is how much fat people put down skinny people though
When I was getting in shape, everybody mocked me for trying to better myself. The thing is, none of it came from actual fit people. It came from my overweight sibling, their unfit friends, and acquaintances that didn’t feel good about themselves.
@@fyoutube9410 I didn't give any excuse for anything? And the fact that people are often rude doesn't mean someone can't call out a specific way people are rude to them. Either way, I disagree with Pegasus for saying that you can tell by someone's face what their current diet looks like, and none of you are giving an argument for that, just saying irrelevant things
@@nonono777 I did not say you gave an excuse. I said, that people get abuse online for any goddamn reason, so why do these body positivity people think they get a special pass. Internet abuse has been going on for everyone since there has been an internet, if they can't deal with it, then they should gtfo the internet. Hence a weak excuse.
You guys have a great attitude about life. I love the motivational conversations between you two. You’re both great role models for the younger generation. Props!
I'm overweight, I've been up and down on the scale, I've dieted in the past and lost over 100lb but ended up gaining it all back after the holidays of 2021. I'm currently over 450lb and am on the keto diet. I need to lose and keep the weight off before I'm 25, I want to be down to 300lb(I'm 6'4" so this should be a relatively healthy weight while not making me look like a twig though if i do look big still ill keep losing the weight till I'm at a good looking and healthy weight). Keeping the weight off has not been easy, losing it has been relatively easy.
I think the relativity goes the other way. I'd say test whether or not every pink-haired person has pink hair because they're insane in the first place lmao
I've been to the gym like 2 times and everyone is just doing their own thing, and my friends who been at the gym and one who owns it were so supportive of me and helped me so much lifting weights and teaching me exercises. It is nerve wracking to start cause it's hard getting over the fear of judgment but I can confidently say that the people who go to the gym are really nice and most the time focus on their own stuff.
Ellipticals are great for people with bad knees. Running with bad knees can cause a lot of pain but an elliptical can help get good cardio in without knee pain because of the 0 impact on your foot compared to the treadmill.
Yeah, I'm guessing that *could* be why in the first girl's story the "elliptical is for fat people" because running/jumping with a lot of excess weight will put too much stress on your knees and fuck them up. Still calling bullshit on her story tho
I’m a tattoo artist who eventually wants to get into doing piercings and even I hate that person’s nose and lip piercings with a passion. It looks so terrible. Also…….having a racial dating preference only becomes racist when you say “oh I only date white guys because I hate black guys”. Idk why folks have to put down everyone else when they talk about what they like
Maybe I want a GF that can walk to the store with me without getting winded and sweaty. Or go for a hike and make it out of the parking lot before needing a break?
Im Fatphobic. I hate my body and want to loss weight. I think I'm disguising. I hate looking at myself and seeing what I've let go. I don't care what others do to themselves. Its there choice. I prefer being skinny because there is sooo much that I'm missing out on. I cant go hiking without being out of breath. Being overweigh is unhealthy.
I used to be fat and I’d always go to the gym 3 times a week but I never once did Ive ever been made fun of by any of the other gym goers….literally everyone there were the nicest people I’ve ever met, I once fell off the treadmill and everyone stopped what they were doing and came to help me back up….I remember a guy taught me how to not go out of breath when using the treadmill because he noticed I was running out of breath really hard..he told me to inhale very slowly and exhale slowly as well and it helped me a lot
What!? I'm slim (normal weight - not "skinny"...) and I use the eliptical!! It's my fave machine to use at the gym... So much so that I got one to use at home too!!
Working out with this in the background it’s not much of a workout since it’s kinda just walking(it’s at home btw)but I’ve lost about 16 pounds in the past like month or two ik it’s not much but I’m proud of it I hope whoever read this has an amazing day and hits the goals you have in life
I don’t go the gym, but I have a setup in my basement and I started out doing 3 pound bicep curls, now I do 30 pushups, 50 sit-ups, do 15 pound bicep curls, and I do pull-ups and chin-ups. Before I was some weak, skinny 13 year old and now I’ve got the ultimate sleeper build. I still look weak af but I got muscle. People just need to go to the gym and they’ll feel a lot better about themselves.
@@limitless2363 I was just pointing out that I still look really weak, but I have muscle. Why is a sleeper build a bad thing? And also it's definitely better than being 300 pounds
Chubbyemu had an amazing video about this, actually imo one of the best on yt, providing a nuanced, yet personal perspective. I think ppl should check it out.
A phobia is when you are afraid of something, like almost deathly afraid. Am I missing a moment in history where this definition changed to mean anything remotely mean or sad or feared is a phobia?
I was pretty big when I started going to the gym. I got nothing but support and awesome encouragement from the people I interacted with. A year later, I'm ten pounds from my goal weight and SO much happier. It's hard work, but it's worth it.
i used an elliptical every time i went to the gym when i was in the worst of my eating disorder and severely underweight 💀it's just easier on your body than a treadmill
I have struggled with my weight all of my life. 95% of the struggle is mental. Most of that is being honest with yourself about what you’re really eating and how much you’re actually moving. Thinking everyone else has it easier than you is a big mental trap too.
I'm overweight and I love working out, wish I could more often but my chronic migraines made it really hard. Aside from that it can be pretty fun, I go with my brother and we just joke around the whole time
I think all "fat" people should always be treated with dignity and respect. It's not easy to lose weight and some people will never be skinny. But it's not healthy to be over weight period. So don't pretend it is .
Got to thank whoever wrote this for the motivation. I used to jump rope 50 minutes 3 or 4 times a week, then I saw this "exercise is racism/opression/fatphobic" bs, now I jump 90 minutes every day.
as a girl going to the gym in Germany has been pretty rough, i am actually not one bit over weight but have an ed, and people in many gyms here have been so mean to me and ive gone through so many problems with men being too touchy specially the older generation that i needed to quit...i loved the place but workers and people were just putting me down the whole time i was there..hopefully itll change once i stop going alone i dont feel safe in gyms without someone i know being around me.. it has happened so often in different gyms different cities.. i started hiking after that and it felt so much better..
The saddest part is you don't get fat overnight it takes years, months....during that process, no one stepped in? Not parents? not friends? they just let this person get fat and very unhealthy!
Off topic but as someone who used to have a stretched septum (the nose ring he refers to around 4:39 ) It does not block the ability to breathe, the septum is located at the very tip of your nose tucked under your outside skin. It does not actually block your airway, I have been asked this many times but it is the same to breathe as without having the jewelry, the only time it is annoying is when you are sick and your nose is runny and the big jewelry can get in the way of wiping it. Hope this helps clear things up!
I had personal bad experiences being thin. I was very anorexic, stalked and even groped. Being a little over weight has protected me from having that experience. I completely understand it's not a healthy way of living and I'm actually currently fixing it by maintaining my eating habits and going to the pool to work out.
I wonder if all these 'fat phobic' women only go after fat guys! I'm fat and I don't think there's anything wrong with not finding fat ppl attractive to you it's your own preference but I would say just because initially you aren't attracted to fat ppl but give them a chance you might be closet chubby chasers!
Uuuuggghhhhhh I am an OTA student and am, by BMI standards, morbidly obese. In one of the online groups for OT I am in, someone asked about if they could work with populations that were over/underweight, obesity, failure to thrive, etc. on nutrition goals. Someone went on a whole tirade about how she was fatphobic and needed to educate herself and later defending this absurd position, she goes on into how it's also racist. The amount of ridiculous mental gymnastics that people immediately get triggered into is honestly obnoxious. As a clearly fat person, this whole narrative is stupid and annoying.
1:22 I agree with Connor and feeling "out of place" or "weird" is completely normal for people who don't go to the gym often. Yes, there are people who will judge but you have to prove those idiots wrong.
If someone is making fun of you for being fat WHILE you're in the gym then you can literally just go "I'm here for a reason so why should you try and stop me." People making fun of you regardless of your size in public is bound to happen (depending on where you are, especially if you're in a place of education) but that doesn't mean you have to tolerate it.. That also doesn't mean you should be like the people in this video though, aspire to be anything BUT these people 😅😂
I remember after having my first son through a C-section i was fat n bloated due to the bby weight n surgery n had to go to Walmart 3 weeks after been discharge from delivering. That was the only time I used a Walmart scooter... and I got shamed bcz I wasn't fat enough to be riding it and the Walmart employee basically lecture me n wanted me to walk instead. I got bad looks n judge throughout Walmart. The rudest ppl to me were the heaviest. They made feel wrong for riding one n that scooter should be exclusive.
I used to be really skinny and I’m tall for my age so it makes me look even skinnier, I’ve always struggled with being okay with my wrists, when I started going to the gym I stopped worrying so much about little things like my wrists, and started focusing on weight and reps and protein and form, working out isn’t all physical, it really helps you mentally to figure out what’s important
7:38 this isn't necessarily true. There are so many skinny/thin ppl that eat terribly but they're not shamed for it as much as bigger ppl. This is especially true w/girls. And they kind of proved her point when they said just by looking at her they can tell she eats unhealthy. How do they know? Slim people have a faster metabolism which allows them to eat whatever junk they want w/out any physically obvious "consequences". Meanwhile their insides are crying out lol. A slim person could eat a whole pizza and people wouldn't care as much. But the second a fat person eats one slice of pizza it's the end of the world and she needa to eat a salad. So I get what she's saying.
Because those skinny people though they eat a lot and unhealthy foods too have a fast metabolism and don’t have to worry about overeating instead they have to worry about undereating Fat people get shamed for eating themselves into couch cushions and skinny people don’t cause they genuinely need those calories even if it is unhealthy calories 🤷♂️ + it could also just be occasional and not everyday and they could also be exercising js
Weight loss isn’t even that hard a concept. You don’t necessarily have to eat a specific amount of calories. You can eat as many calories as you want as long as you WORK those calories off.
of course there are gonna be those girls that call themselves fat to get validation but the most likely culprit is body dysmorphia when i was very underweight, i’d measure myself and despite noticing a drastic difference in my prior size in all the numbers when compared, i’d look in the mirror and i looked the same so many people would comment and say this same thing to me too and i would be genuinely surprised because i can never seem to perceive myself properly
When I first started college, I backed out on going to the gym because of how nervous I get around strangers, but over time I've gotten to know quite a few of the people who workout regularly and they're actually really nice. I overthink too much.
Dyeing my hair to let people know I am mentally ill but not piercing my nose or septum to make sure they know I am not toxic Making these type of people angry cause I got a disease so I struggle to gain weight. Edit: Literally past times have shown being fatphobia is not the same as racism & homophobia. Like in the past black people were treated like shit & enslaved, gay people were literally killed, while fat people were kings & queens cause they could afford to eat. Ah yes so oppressed.
These girls saying, that not being atracted to fat ppl is fatphobic, would never date an fat guy themselves. \o/ That's it if she can't explain why, then we skinny ppl don't have to explain.
Bruh the dynamic of these two is just getting better, and better.
Yes
Hey we got a same pfp
@@el_8824 💀
@@Chhjmmkg hey….wait a minute
Been in the gym over a decade and not once have I ever seen someone harass or insult an obese person trying to get healthy. They are too insecure to go to the gym and they find a way to blame other people.
So true, I also see everybody is so nice, helpings when asked or if someone see you having trouble. Every morning I go, I see a group of senior folks working out together and chatting with the “gym bros”
There has been body shaming that went viral but i don't think it is the norm.
Exactly, everytime I see an obese person at the gym I always only have respect for them and see it as a good thing people trying to lose weight
Also you could workout at home that's what I do way better and less expensive some people just like to make excuses for reasons why they can't go or do curten things to make themselves feel better
I've never gone to a gym because I'm always scared to go because I don't know what I'm doing and I am overweight it's just really scary and it really shouldn't be because there are really good people out there like you who will drop everything to help people like me but then there's the insane people who ruin it for the other people
I love how Connor keeps Pegasus from saying the most outrageous things.
The duo nobody asked for but everybody loves
@@chagd2590 yeah
@@chagd2590 its like oompa and nikokado
@@summonersriftgarbage4426 lmao yeah
The outrageous things are fun though.
won't be long until breathing is racist
That will be good cause people who consider breathing is racist they gonna die(cause didnt breath enough oxygen) soon anyway
p.s. I sick of people who put random word + phobia like Phobia mean Scared or fear of something NOT What you hate of.
@@Hee.Soo_Nadia395 phobia can mean fear or extreme dislike
Technically some think that white people are actually evil and need to die. Like white people actually exist just to screw with other races.
So existing is racist.
"WHITE PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE OXYGEN FROM POC THAT'S RACIST!"
Breathing is cultural appropriation.
What color skin did the first human being to breathe have? Then it was stolen by white people and now all white people act like they invented breathing.
Connor is so polite and then there's Pegasus with 0 chill 😂
In the moment, I'm Pegasus all the way. Five seconds outside of the situation, I'm Connor trying to figure out how to rewind time, or at least bullet point everything I have to apologize for. 🤣🤣
Connor: *being polite and deep*
Pegasus: *YOUR NOSE RING IS UGLY*
the kind of duality i expect when i click on a reaction video
As a black person who often works out, I can say that exercising is not racist, and that is some pure cap
Htf does being black and being someone who works out make you anymore qualified to say the most dead obvious thing of:
"Excercising is not racist"????
@@doseofmemes4362cause someone’s still gonna talk some shit
@@doseofmemes4362bcz most fat acceptance always say that “exercising and diet is a systemic oppression towards fat/disable/black community”
@@nzslol tf is that ment to mean
@Dose of memes it doesn't make me more qualified, it's supposed to be a joke
“Exercising is racist.”
Call me Hitler, because im gonna hit the grind, stay fit, kings.
Somebody has to make an edit of this with that sigma grind music, with clips of buff richard waterson in the background I swear it would go viral.
Fitler💪
sigma grindset
Adof rizzler
As a black person I am highly offended by your exercise
“Why do you think fat people are unattractive?”
Well why do you think acne is unattractive, why do you think being tall is attractive, why do you think good teeth are conductive? Because those are all aspects of a traditionally attractive person, and it is attractive to be thin. Some people prefer fat people. Some prefer short people, some prefer big boobs, some small boobs. It’s not discrimination, it’s called standards and everyone has different standards.
"SoMe PeOpLe cAn'T WrAp ThEiR HeAdS ArOuNd ThIs" because it's not a thing this woman has negative brain cells
Different people different taste.
Facts
Ah yes, after my braces I became a power line.
@@Wolfie54545 lol
There's absolutely nothing wrong with preferances... If I get turned down for my body, hair or skin colour, etc. That's fine, I'm not their cup of tea.
i agree with that, not everyone is going to fit everyones type, and we shouldnt force someone to like us just bc we like them
Bro, i got rejected once for being too young. The guy was around the same age as me, but he said he liked older girls. Anything is possible lol
@@bluebeka2458 Those kinds of human beings are disgusting, they don't want love they want an older more financially stable person to keep them upright. _They're leeches tbh._
The same for those who prefer younger people, might as well just take urself to a therapist because some people who are 60 go for 18 year olds and that's 🤮
Anyway don't be insecure about your age, that ain't on you. You keep loving urself and ur bound to find someone who loves u in return!!
@@bluebeka2458 yeah idk i am not going to say someone is racist because they're not attracted to me, in that cas everyone around me is racist
Exactly
I told one of my friend that I don’t believe in fatphobia and they said “that’s what fatphobes say” I DIED
I assume of laughter, hopefully not died inside.
If I was there you're friend would've died
Tell them that not wanting to have excess fat and live a healthy lifestyle is just your self-preservation instincts at work.
imo its not these peoples weight thats a problem, its their personality. This way of thinking and these tiktoks are basically sabotaging themselves with the way they talk and react. There’s a thin line between positivity and toxicity.
agreed, they have a negative personality imo, just looking at the bad things just bc bad things happen to them on a daily basis. ik its very hard to try to look at the ups in those times, but always try to look in a positive way to brighten your own mood, youll enjoy life a bit more. and im like pretty sure nobody/barely anybody bats an eye when a fat person walks by or when a skinny person passes by and theyre thinking "omg that person is so fat". if they always think like that, then im very sorry for their mindset and they should try to not look at the negatives sm!
I don't get why so many people get so pressed when they're excluded from a preference. It's. A. Pre-fer-ence. By definition of the word, someone is gonna be excluded from it, and if that's you, then tough tiddies, that's how the cookie crumbles, move on. Like if someone said "Oh I don't date guys without a six pack" I'd just be like "Aah that kinda sucks for me" and then move on with my day, why must people strive to be liked by everybody all the time, that's something that you learn or should have learned is impossible in your like teen years
absolutely agreed! im not gonna fucking bring the damn earth down with me just because someone doesnt find me attractive! some of these individuals are always facing the negatives in everyday lifes where they think EVERYTHING that happens to them is a bad thing and doesnt happen to anyone else.
just as your example, ive talked to some girls who has a preference for big guys and they would turn down a guy who is very built like a bodybuilder, so this absolutely doesnt just happen to fat individuals!
Also why would anyone want to date a person who doesn't find them attractive? You're not their preference forcing them to date you because it's offensive otherwise will not make them any more attracted to you. I don't think people control what they find attractive and it's creepy to tell them otherwise.
It's because of the change in education not letting children build experiences. And constantly promoting including everyone so children don't ever learn that some people just won't like you. As a teenager I am ashamed to see what the modern education system is doing to my generation.
THIS VIDEO WAS PAINFUL TO WATCH 😢 1 LIEK = 1 PRAYUR 🙏😞
3:29 "but it's also really hard to be jacked from the start"
Me with my black genetics: ⚡🗿😤
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Jesus Connor are you ok
@@ash17937 I didn’t see the joke till a paragraph was written
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When she was saying that fatphobia is “rooted in racism” this is actually a real talking point on Twitter. I can’t count the amount of times I’ve seen women say that the “accepted standard of beauty” was specifically chosen to be skinny white women to hurt and break down black women who apparently are just naturally big, I don’t know how true that last part is because I’ve seen plenty of thin black women, but apparently black people are just heavy set by nature and white people made skinny women the beauty standard because racism. It’s actually a very wide spread thing on Twitter, I’ve seen women say this a bunch.
@@ash17937 white genetics are better
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I don't mind bigger people. I'd date a bigger person tbh. you can be comfortable in your own skin, granted you're not super unhealthy, like nikocado type diabetes.
however, even if you don't want to change your body, that's fine, but don't hate on others for doing it. you're comfortable with your body, let others be comfortable with theirs.
Exactly
I'd date a fat person too but if that's all they talk about nah
The nikocado type diabetes made me laugh XD then I realize I'm prediabetic when I'm 48 kg TvT
To be fair that's what body positivity comes too I guess where you can actually stress test your body to see how far it can go and how capable of it is. The results would be a bonus, and you might eventually end up feeling better too.
You can't force people to like you the way you are but you can control the way you react to negative comments
I’ve been overweight before. I hated it. I wasn’t even that overweight, about 20 lbs or so. It felt horrible. I only just recently shed the pounds cuz I got serious about working out for real this time and actually got a gym membership instead of just doing push-ups and squats at home and wow I feel a lot better and also it helped me have a better relationship with food cuz I don’t feel the need to starve myself and feel guilty eating anymore cuz I know it’ll get burned off so fast I don’t care and I need the fuel now to keep working out. So it all works out. Where’s the racism here
You deserve a medal!
For me it's not about the shape of body but it's actually for their health i worry about.. they using this cause to avoiding to exercise and to maintain their health..if doctors are asking them to lose a several pound later will be call fatphobic..
If your fat, just lose weight. If you don't want to, then stay fat, you do you. Just don't pull out some clarity type excuse and say it to me every waking minute of my life.
@Alkalez we know but it’s not Impossible let me explain. Get off couch.put down McDonald’s throw it in trash. Get gym membership. Go gym.
@@asunsfan8104 Ok, but to be fair, some genetic conditions make it VERY hard to lose weight even if you do all that. Hypothyroidism for example causes your metabolism to slow down drastically.
there's always a solution for being fat, or anorexic, but people are just too lazy, or not commited enough to making their life better
@@DeezNuts_X no. not really, genetics and poverty can have a big hand in that, and those things are very hard to escape. Not all fat people of course, some do just have bad diets and don't exercise.
Facts
I dyed my hair back to its natural color because of people like this. I was tired of people assuming I have their mindset lol
On the last lady; I can see what she means by completely excluding someone as technically not being a preference, since preference often mean that I would've preferred this however I can also tolerate the other choice. Like liking cold weather yet being able to tolerate hot weather.
However - preference still means that you would like something _more so_ than this other thing, to the point that you'd exclude that other thing, especially if it opposes your preference so much. It's also much more contextual when it comes to dating since you can't control the weather, however you can control who you date - So we're basically given the freedom to go for our preference more so than something that isn't preferred, and who would go with something they don't prefer? People prefer to not have children and may never get one since they don't think they're responsible, that doesn't mean they hate children entirely.
This is basically common sense. Once you're given the freedom to always choose what you prefer, why should you chain that person down into this delusion that they don't have that freedom? Let them have their preference.
People don’t understand that beauty is subjective and it goes both ways. Men and women judge each other for having preferences while having preferences. It’s ridiculous.
i totally agree with this, we have the power to control who we love and who we want to love, we should be able to have that. some of these fat acceptance activists are always shoving down our throats that we MUST like them for their body, like i understand you want to be loved for who you are, but shoving it into someones face all the time ab how awesome or cool you are even tho youre fat doesnt really show a good personality nor have a very high confidence
I would never date a trans person so am I transphobic? I prefer bigger women am I hateful or exclusive to skinny women? No what this woman says makes no sense at all
Being in the gym as a teenage girl can be pretty scary, however I’ve gotten to the point where it doesn’t bother me as much anymore. Although I am much weaker then everyone else and it’s hard not to compare myself to men, but I try to remember how far I’ve come. And you’re right gym peiple are the nicest, some of the nicest people are grown men that tell me how strong I am for a young girl and then they help me and protect me like a daughter. I love gym people, although some girls are rude because I’m not “skinny” I’m strong it’s gonr from being a scary place to my safe space
For the one going off on the skinny girl’s cheat meal, while i don’t know much about dieting (though i imagine the sheer willpower to maintain a good one is tough) i do exercise and if you’ve done a particularly strenuous routine, be it weights, running or whatever you do, you’re ready to eat EVERYTHING that was on that table.
Bro I think I’d die if I ate everything on that table
This! My brother has a hard time gaining weight for building muscle so every now and then he'd bulk lol.
I'm genuinely offended that she compared and stereotyped _an _*_entire race_* to a controllable and easily avoidable body weight......
I'm overweight and I do love and appreciate my body. It's gone through lots of surgeries, scars, and different scenarios. My body survived a pulmonary embolism. However, self love isn't something that should only exist in your physical appearance. Once I'm better, I do plan on making massive changes so that I can be here on earth longer and do more things🤷🏻♀️ self love is more important than trying to have the whole internet love your body imo
" I used to really like colored hair, it was nice, unique and colorful like flowers" ngl I think that was a pretty adorable thing Pegasus said
Phobia = fear and yes I fear being fat.
You don't have to want to be fat, but hopefully you dont justfly fat shaming and all the other bad takes that do come with being fat phobic, do you?
@@D-D-D-Dora.E being fat is unhealty, dangerous and unattractive. That is my take. Do what what you will with it. I will not shame anyone as long as they don't promote it.
@@D-D-D-Dora.E as mong as someone isnt promoting being fat, i really dont care how much of a circle someone is 😐
Nobody here is gonna talk about the fact that skinny people can feel fat or look fat to themselves because of body dysmorphia and telling them they aren’t allowed to say something that they feel as an insecurity and a hate towards themselves is completely unacceptable
Exactly. Skinny people cant say that they look fat or feel fat because society is gonna tell them that they are lucky for being skinny and not plus size. Im glad someone is pointing this out.
“it’s fatphobic to think that being fat is unhealthy” .. it is 😭
The girl complaining about hate comments kind of has a point. If a fat person is actually loosing weight and on a diet and exercising, they still get rude comments (irl and on social media) if they sometimes eat a larger amount of food or something unhealthy. It is not always a valid assumption that they're eating like that 3 times a day every day, and she has a point that it isn't the business of strangers or acquaintances to comment
of course theyre going to because the put themselves in that position but also no matter what you do in life you could be a billionaire with a great body, people are always going to try to hate on you. and it is unhealthy to be 250 its unhealthy to be 230 (in most cases). something yall dont want to talk about is how much fat people put down skinny people though
People are rude to people for a myriad of reasons daily, shitty excuse.
When I was getting in shape, everybody mocked me for trying to better myself. The thing is, none of it came from actual fit people. It came from my overweight sibling, their unfit friends, and acquaintances that didn’t feel good about themselves.
@@fyoutube9410 I didn't give any excuse for anything? And the fact that people are often rude doesn't mean someone can't call out a specific way people are rude to them. Either way, I disagree with Pegasus for saying that you can tell by someone's face what their current diet looks like, and none of you are giving an argument for that, just saying irrelevant things
@@nonono777 I did not say you gave an excuse. I said, that people get abuse online for any goddamn reason, so why do these body positivity people think they get a special pass. Internet abuse has been going on for everyone since there has been an internet, if they can't deal with it, then they should gtfo the internet. Hence a weak excuse.
You guys have a great attitude about life. I love the motivational conversations between you two. You’re both great role models for the younger generation. Props!
"I have too much to eat so im oppressed"
Like wtf
fat = unhealthy, how can you question that💀
Bro not even that 10-15% fat for men and 20-25% fat for women is very healthy, it's just that they are waaay above that.
@@DenterNu my girl is a bit above her "healthy" weight she's 5'1 and she's still healthy
@@Dovah_Slayer there's a difference between slightly above and 600 lbs
@@georgiallll123 exactly my point
I'm overweight, I've been up and down on the scale, I've dieted in the past and lost over 100lb but ended up gaining it all back after the holidays of 2021. I'm currently over 450lb and am on the keto diet. I need to lose and keep the weight off before I'm 25, I want to be down to 300lb(I'm 6'4" so this should be a relatively healthy weight while not making me look like a twig though if i do look big still ill keep losing the weight till I'm at a good looking and healthy weight). Keeping the weight off has not been easy, losing it has been relatively easy.
Someone needs to do a study on whether having coloured hair/piercings makes you more insane.
yes
I think the relativity goes the other way. I'd say test whether or not every pink-haired person has pink hair because they're insane in the first place lmao
I have red hair and piercings and everyone assumes I’m like this. I just had a loving father. That’s the difference.
@@xxxstellarxxx same lol
Im onto it
connor is legit the most rational and logical commentary youtuber out there
I've been to the gym like 2 times and everyone is just doing their own thing, and my friends who been at the gym and one who owns it were so supportive of me and helped me so much lifting weights and teaching me exercises.
It is nerve wracking to start cause it's hard getting over the fear of judgment but I can confidently say that the people who go to the gym are really nice and most the time focus on their own stuff.
imagine how many tallow candles we could make if we melted them all down
One thing about people in the gym
They don’t care
They are legit there to workout…honestly even love gym bros…wholesome people
Connor is the voice of reasoning
Connor the shield
Megasus the sword
As a nonbinary person with colored hair and glasses, I do not claim these people
I swear, if a saying goes around- "No stop. That's just Thinphobic. " LIKE NAH MAN i am buying a coffin EARLY 💀
Ellipticals are great for people with bad knees. Running with bad knees can cause a lot of pain but an elliptical can help get good cardio in without knee pain because of the 0 impact on your foot compared to the treadmill.
Yeah, I'm guessing that *could* be why in the first girl's story the "elliptical is for fat people" because running/jumping with a lot of excess weight will put too much stress on your knees and fuck them up.
Still calling bullshit on her story tho
@@mythologiegrecquedecomplexee agreed, her story is 100% bs
Yooo the video title had me cackling. Good work as usual bro!!
I’m a tattoo artist who eventually wants to get into doing piercings and even I hate that person’s nose and lip piercings with a passion. It looks so terrible. Also…….having a racial dating preference only becomes racist when you say “oh I only date white guys because I hate black guys”. Idk why folks have to put down everyone else when they talk about what they like
I saw an ad for a gym then an ad for Burger King... coincidence, I think not.
Maybe I want a GF that can walk to the store with me without getting winded and sweaty. Or go for a hike and make it out of the parking lot before needing a break?
Maybe i want a gf that won't have a heart disease 2 years into the relationship and fucking die 💀
Cries in asthma
This is a living proof of how narcissists are driven by envy and jealousy.
Im Fatphobic. I hate my body and want to loss weight. I think I'm disguising. I hate looking at myself and seeing what I've let go. I don't care what others do to themselves. Its there choice. I prefer being skinny because there is sooo much that I'm missing out on. I cant go hiking without being out of breath. Being overweigh is unhealthy.
12:11 Not even Connor could hold it back😭😭💀💀
I used to be fat and I’d always go to the gym 3 times a week but I never once did Ive ever been made fun of by any of the other gym goers….literally everyone there were the nicest people I’ve ever met, I once fell off the treadmill and everyone stopped what they were doing and came to help me back up….I remember a guy taught me how to not go out of breath when using the treadmill because he noticed I was running out of breath really hard..he told me to inhale very slowly and exhale slowly as well and it helped me a lot
What!? I'm slim (normal weight - not "skinny"...) and I use the eliptical!! It's my fave machine to use at the gym... So much so that I got one to use at home too!!
Working out with this in the background it’s not much of a workout since it’s kinda just walking(it’s at home btw)but I’ve lost about 16 pounds in the past like month or two ik it’s not much but I’m proud of it I hope whoever read this has an amazing day and hits the goals you have in life
16 pounds is a great start! Keep it up and I hope you keep going to reach your goal. :)
I don’t go the gym, but I have a setup in my basement and I started out doing 3 pound bicep curls, now I do 30 pushups, 50 sit-ups, do 15 pound bicep curls, and I do pull-ups and chin-ups. Before I was some weak, skinny 13 year old and now I’ve got the ultimate sleeper build. I still look weak af but I got muscle. People just need to go to the gym and they’ll feel a lot better about themselves.
Sleeper build isnt a good thing
@@limitless2363 I was just pointing out that I still look really weak, but I have muscle. Why is a sleeper build a bad thing?
And also it's definitely better than being 300 pounds
Chubbyemu had an amazing video about this, actually imo one of the best on yt, providing a nuanced, yet personal perspective. I think ppl should check it out.
Oh hey I love that guy's stuff
-emia meaning presence in blood
"this boy ate 20 gummy bears, this is what happened to his Liver"
@@Reze000 A man ate a cupcake, this is how he dot end stage renal disease (EDP deserved it tho ngl).
A phobia is when you are afraid of something, like almost deathly afraid. Am I missing a moment in history where this definition changed to mean anything remotely mean or sad or feared is a phobia?
I was pretty big when I started going to the gym. I got nothing but support and awesome encouragement from the people I interacted with. A year later, I'm ten pounds from my goal weight and SO much happier. It's hard work, but it's worth it.
Fatphobia can be translated to: im scared of salads
i used an elliptical every time i went to the gym when i was in the worst of my eating disorder and severely underweight 💀it's just easier on your body than a treadmill
I don't think she understands the definition of "race"
I have struggled with my weight all of my life. 95% of the struggle is mental. Most of that is being honest with yourself about what you’re really eating and how much you’re actually moving. Thinking everyone else has it easier than you is a big mental trap too.
Your guy's dynamic is amazing
Yre'ou*
@@DustarMendez ?
I'm overweight and I love working out, wish I could more often but my chronic migraines made it really hard. Aside from that it can be pretty fun, I go with my brother and we just joke around the whole time
Damn, my bad my EATING DISORDER makes me “feel fat”. Guess I’ll just stop having one as if it’s a choice. 😂😂😂 these people are trippen
Therapists exist precisely for that lol
Gym bros are the coolest people you’ll ever meet like picture the body improvement club from Mob Psycho 100 that’s like peak gym bro
I think all "fat" people should always be treated with dignity and respect. It's not easy to lose weight and some people will never be skinny. But it's not healthy to be over weight period. So don't pretend it is .
Got to thank whoever wrote this for the motivation. I used to jump rope 50 minutes 3 or 4 times a week, then I saw this "exercise is racism/opression/fatphobic" bs, now I jump 90 minutes every day.
When you read a comment with 12 words and there's no punchline. (Not even in the parentheses)
Hilarious
the only thing that went through my mind when i read the title was just "HOW"
I actually read existing is racist and I went: kinda knew it
as a girl going to the gym in Germany has been pretty rough, i am actually not one bit over weight but have an ed, and people in many gyms here have been so mean to me and ive gone through so many problems with men being too touchy specially the older generation that i needed to quit...i loved the place but workers and people were just putting me down the whole time i was there..hopefully itll change once i stop going alone i dont feel safe in gyms without someone i know being around me.. it has happened so often in different gyms different cities.. i started hiking after that and it felt so much better..
Why is Connor low key fine
I was not gonna exercise, but after seeing this, I made exercise
Imagine being so persistent on not touching grass💀💀💀💀💀
The saddest part is you don't get fat overnight it takes years, months....during that process, no one stepped in? Not parents? not friends? they just let this person get fat and very unhealthy!
Surely with the character and personality of this person, intervention has been difficult and loved ones have given up on the effort.
Hello Connor and Pegasus!!
Hello :)
No way
Off topic but as someone who used to have a stretched septum (the nose ring he refers to around 4:39 ) It does not block the ability to breathe, the septum is located at the very tip of your nose tucked under your outside skin. It does not actually block your airway, I have been asked this many times but it is the same to breathe as without having the jewelry, the only time it is annoying is when you are sick and your nose is runny and the big jewelry can get in the way of wiping it. Hope this helps clear things up!
10:52 - girl--- it's a preference. It's not that deep omgosh
Real lmao
I had personal bad experiences being thin. I was very anorexic, stalked and even groped. Being a little over weight has protected me from having that experience. I completely understand it's not a healthy way of living and I'm actually currently fixing it by maintaining my eating habits and going to the pool to work out.
I wonder if all these 'fat phobic' women only go after fat guys! I'm fat and I don't think there's anything wrong with not finding fat ppl attractive to you it's your own preference but I would say just because initially you aren't attracted to fat ppl but give them a chance you might be closet chubby chasers!
Uuuuggghhhhhh I am an OTA student and am, by BMI standards, morbidly obese. In one of the online groups for OT I am in, someone asked about if they could work with populations that were over/underweight, obesity, failure to thrive, etc. on nutrition goals. Someone went on a whole tirade about how she was fatphobic and needed to educate herself and later defending this absurd position, she goes on into how it's also racist. The amount of ridiculous mental gymnastics that people immediately get triggered into is honestly obnoxious. As a clearly fat person, this whole narrative is stupid and annoying.
I'm even more racist now
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1:22 I agree with Connor and feeling "out of place" or "weird" is completely normal for people who don't go to the gym often. Yes, there are people who will judge but you have to prove those idiots wrong.
*me on my way to be racist: 💪
Lmfaooo
Just one more of the many reasons to love exercising! Exercise is based!
If someone is making fun of you for being fat WHILE you're in the gym then you can literally just go "I'm here for a reason so why should you try and stop me."
People making fun of you regardless of your size in public is bound to happen (depending on where you are, especially if you're in a place of education) but that doesn't mean you have to tolerate it.. That also doesn't mean you should be like the people in this video though, aspire to be anything BUT these people 😅😂
I remember after having my first son through a C-section i was fat n bloated due to the bby weight n surgery n had to go to Walmart 3 weeks after been discharge from delivering. That was the only time I used a Walmart scooter... and I got shamed bcz I wasn't fat enough to be riding it and the Walmart employee basically lecture me n wanted me to walk instead. I got bad looks n judge throughout Walmart. The rudest ppl to me were the heaviest. They made feel wrong for riding one n that scooter should be exclusive.
12:42 Ayo
day 3 of saying hi megasus
Day 1 of saying Hi to you
day 1 of telling u that megasus is gonna reply
day 1 of replying to this comment (This is the last day)
day, one of saying hi to you
I used to be really skinny and I’m tall for my age so it makes me look even skinnier, I’ve always struggled with being okay with my wrists, when I started going to the gym I stopped worrying so much about little things like my wrists, and started focusing on weight and reps and protein and form, working out isn’t all physical, it really helps you mentally to figure out what’s important
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There is a HUGE difference between a cheat day and "what I eat in a day". She's really trying to grasp at straws here...
14:06 At what point does it swap from being a preference to a bias?
7:38 this isn't necessarily true. There are so many skinny/thin ppl that eat terribly but they're not shamed for it as much as bigger ppl. This is especially true w/girls. And they kind of proved her point when they said just by looking at her they can tell she eats unhealthy. How do they know? Slim people have a faster metabolism which allows them to eat whatever junk they want w/out any physically obvious "consequences". Meanwhile their insides are crying out lol. A slim person could eat a whole pizza and people wouldn't care as much. But the second a fat person eats one slice of pizza it's the end of the world and she needa to eat a salad. So I get what she's saying.
Yes!! Genetic and metabolic differences are important to keep in mind
Because those skinny people though they eat a lot and unhealthy foods too have a fast metabolism and don’t have to worry about overeating instead they have to worry about undereating
Fat people get shamed for eating themselves into couch cushions and skinny people don’t cause they genuinely need those calories even if it is unhealthy calories 🤷♂️ + it could also just be occasional and not everyday and they could also be exercising js
3:54 the biggest lie she said is that she went to the gym
I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about how they all have colorful hair and „look the same“, it feeds stereotypes
also being fat shamed is the same thing as being skinny shamed, they are both forms of body shaming and not okay
Weight loss isn’t even that hard a concept. You don’t necessarily have to eat a specific amount of calories. You can eat as many calories as you want as long as you WORK those calories off.
one fast and good way is water-fasting
of course there are gonna be those girls that call themselves fat to get validation but the most likely culprit is body dysmorphia
when i was very underweight, i’d measure myself and despite noticing a drastic difference in my prior size in all the numbers when compared, i’d look in the mirror and i looked the same
so many people would comment and say this same thing to me too and i would be genuinely surprised because i can never seem to perceive myself properly
When I first started college, I backed out on going to the gym because of how nervous I get around strangers, but over time I've gotten to know quite a few of the people who workout regularly and they're actually really nice. I overthink too much.
Dyeing my hair to let people know I am mentally ill but not piercing my nose or septum to make sure they know I am not toxic
Making these type of people angry cause I got a disease so I struggle to gain weight.
Edit: Literally past times have shown being fatphobia is not the same as racism & homophobia. Like in the past black people were treated like shit & enslaved, gay people were literally killed, while fat people were kings & queens cause they could afford to eat. Ah yes so oppressed.
These girls saying, that not being atracted to fat ppl is fatphobic, would never date an fat guy themselves. \o/
That's it if she can't explain why, then we skinny ppl don't have to explain.
5:26 "everyone needs a battle, so if you don't have a battle, you choose one"