At 8:33 that groove in the rim is called the "channel". It is midway across the rim (midway down in the position on the machine), it is about 4 inches wide (up and down in this position on the machine) and two inches deep (toward the shaft on the machine). As you lever the rod to pop up the bead, you MUST push as much of the rest of the bead into the channel (AHEAD of the bar pry point and all the way to the other side OPPOSITE of the pry point and any further if you can). You have to KEEP that leading bead pushed in the Channel as you push the bar around the shaft as it lifts the bead. It takes practice because the bead will "fight you" and want to pop up toward the rim lip. The whole idea is to keep as much of the bead as possible in the channel to give you plenty of SLACK at the the pry point to easily lift and pop the bead over the rim lip as you go around. Staring the rotation is the most difficult part because you need as much of the bead in the channel to get going, as more and more of the bead is lifted up over the lip as you go around, it gets easier. But keep that bead in the channel until the poped up portion of the bead is now providing slack for the opposite side. You are doing TWO critical and subtle operations at once (most people don't even see the subtle pushing of the bead into the channel because you can't see it (tires are not clear) - its all done by feel. Go slow and practice makes perfect. Once you master the technique, you will not need to lubricate the bead (which can cause corrosion and rim leaks if all moisture from the lubricant is not removed). Many people use lubricant when putting on (mounting) a tire and forget to COMPLETELY DRY off the bead, rim, and ANY water that gets inside the tire and rim. Any water (even a few drops) can cause corrosion and leaks. If you fail to keep the bead in the channel and force the pry bar, you will DAMAGE the bead and thus destroy the tire beyond use. Go slow, if it seems suck, DONT force it... back off and try again giving more attention to keeping the bead in the channel. Notice how many times I mentioned "bead in the channel"... that is what makes sucessful and easy tire mounting/unmounting possible.
I know he knows what he is doing. Just that doggone murphy getting in the way. I had fun watching the video! He tries so hard to get where he wants to be it works. He is correct there are alot of people that complain when they are to blame about hobo freight. We still like it cuz nothing is perfect! Thank for the good video.
Thanks man! Just remember you can never use too much lube! A trick I came up with to get a small tire bead off once… I rigged the $15 HF vacuum pump to the valve stem, and when it pulled it enough that it started to leak, I started spraying the soapy water! If you can just get a tiny bit in somewhere, patience and more lube will pay off!
Something not related to the subject of this video. When I was 44 years old, I would become short winded just like you do when I would do simple tasks. Come to find out, thank goodness I did, I had major blockages in my left main arteries of my heart. WIDOW MAKER. That was 20 years ago and I'm more healthy now than ever before. Pay attention to little signs your body is telling you. I would not have survived an eventual heart attack. Great video. Now get checked out.
Thanks… I had that stupid long COVID crap! I spent the summer doing firewood, and I just thought the other day, it’s the first time in like 2 years I actually feel like I’m back in shape!
Good idea with the scotch bright pad! I also bought a can of bead sealer tar for the rim and I run my grinder with the wire basket around the bead "Grove". I worked at a pro shop for several years and this is how we did it there too. My HF one is fine but I did break the nut out of the top of my old one. I may have overtightened it. But heck I probably changed 30 tires with it so it paid for itself. 😁
So far, just the crappy welds on that x-washer thing have been an issue. I put proper welds on it, so no biggie. 2 weeks, and the temps dropped 65 degrees since the day I did that, and those tires are still aired up! Pretty happy about that!
See 14:05 with your RED bar the wrong way around (any red bar) you'll stuff the rubber really quickly, but use the "provided" duck-bill on the other end of that red bar (any RED bar) the tire will float on easy. No huffing & puffing & gosh buggah, another blown rubber.
I didn't realize that a tire could be removed without some air power assistance. The main thing I saw with that tool is that the base needs to be bigger so it don't wiggle so much. That movement will eventually pull your anchors out of the floor.
awesome video, after damaging two tires i finally figured out how to dismount and mount a tire on rims. I'm just watching to see if theres any other techniques I can learn
get yerself a gallon of Black Jack Tire Repair BJK-LB-800 Tire Mounting Lubricant, and, a red Straight Lube Bucket for Coats Changers with 3 Lube Swabs that are 11.5" Length, and then slather away at all the surfaces, then go to town on your tire changin job. Then it doesn't matter if there's any leftover liquid anywhere on the rim or in the tire when your job's all done. The Black Jack is good for your tire, doesn't hurt the rim, and helps seal the bead even better.
Looks like you need to put some serious ass into the process! What a shame HF cant make this tool to work effectively without the need for buying the extra tools “Spoons” to make it work. Thanks for the video 😎👍
I didn’t think anyone could change a Truck Tire or anything like 17” inch or larger with that whimsy Tire-changer tool but just goes to show you if there’s a will there’s a way 😮 p.s. good tip on those tire spoons I didn’t know about that. Where did you say you got them?
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778 and wendyfyke55. You can even do Monster Truck tires (on the ground) with a few extra tire spoons and some wooden shims you shove in around the tire that you tap in with a rubber mallot to force and hold the bead in the channel. I did it and won a $100 bet. People think the bead stretches when mounting/dismounting a tire.... Nope! the bead is the least flexible part of any tire and is designed NOT to stretch. It should take little effort to lift the bead from the rim, it is bit harder to get going, but if you "work the bead/channel" properly all around as you go, even a Monster Truck tire can be done by hand without hydraulics. A little lubrication helps and maybe an extra hand to work the extra spoons, but I did it myself with no help and no lube to win the bet. It took five minutes to get both beads off. Now, "breaking a bead" from the rim of a Monster Truck tire is very difficult and was not part of the bet. I would have to use my scissor jack with duck bill adapter and a pole to a sturdy joist in the ceiling trick for that. That is what I have in my garage at home, 4 long tire spoons, scissors jack, 3 foot breaker bar for the jack, hand made bead breaker duck bill adapter, steel pole, 8 hand made wooden bead shims, rubber mallot, and a ceiling stud that is counter weighted above to handle extra upward force. I also use a cargo strap with ratchet latch to squeeze the tire treads inward to force the beads against the rim lips when filling the the tire with air... a must have for 18+ inch rims. Forgot to mention, the steel pole (pipe) is tethered to the joist with some bolts and a chain so it doesn't come crashing down on me when the bead breaks. I wear heavy duty leather gloves, heavy duty safety goggles, headphones (why not its part of my safety board), and a construction helmet when I do this.
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778 Flip the bar around and put the duckbill into the lifted bead, as it makes it far easier to keep it lifting (lube or no lube) than a flat single lever.
@@QUIX4Uyeah, the trick is to keep the bar up high as you rotate in the correct direction so it will guide the bead down into the rim. If you keep it horizontal while doing it, the angle of the ramp is too shallow and it's going to slip out.
your method is OK, the original HF tire bar is not good, at least, it needs finessing with a grinder to remove the sharp edges, what I done is that I fabricated a bar with plastic tips so it does not cause damege to the rims or the tires and it is much easier to drive than the original bar. I don't use the small tire bars with my bar.
Nice work , way to stress keeping it down in the grove it really is the key to it. I will listen to what anyone says as long as I know they hate liberals as much as I do lol. You would think that would be every single American by this point. Oh yeah, I liked your tip with the shot of w-d40 down the socket to keep the lugs from sticking , going to start doing that!
The easiest way how to hear those babies up a little bit of starting fluid and then light it with a match poof it's on like Donkey Kong Keep It In the Groove yeah baby good job
11:00 Wrong, 18 years is what they tell you (to allow you to think the end is near) but it ain't, kids still demand Daddy pay for this, that and almost everything else, until they are well into their thirties (if you are lucky). But hey when they ask, you'll go all gooey inside and think - aw they still love me & need me. Nah - they just know how to get you to open your wallet is all.
its always better to do it yourself because you know it was done right instead of paying someone 20 dollars and still end up with a rim leak. that really pisses you off and you have to end up doing a tire breakdown and seal the rim
I flipped them around, because someone rebuilt my front end when I took my truck in for just a ball joint and it hasn’t been able to be lined up ever since! Lesson learned… fix it myself!
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778 Find out what he did and undue it or somehow get the car aligned. Easier said than done. But you probably already thought of that.
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778I spent 4 days doing 2 tires. It worked ok to dismount but mounting the 2nd bead failed both times. I may need to upgrade to duckbill or I need a better base for it as I have no ground to bolt it to. I thought it would have been a lot easier since I used to work at a car dealership, but we used machines not these. I found videos on how to mount the tire without a stand and I followed their advice to get the tires on.
I too could not get that bar to work. It just jammed and twisted out of my hands. It is relegated to the bead breaker only now What you need is a new cheap to make lever, like the one I came up with in these links th-cam.com/video/H_c2ZMIYWdE/w-d-xo.html and even easier to make th-cam.com/video/W8MddFsFmgA/w-d-xo.html Alloy rims are harder to deal with, they seem stickier than steel rims Good luck
At 8:33 that groove in the rim is called the "channel". It is midway across the rim (midway down in the position on the machine), it is about 4 inches wide (up and down in this position on the machine) and two inches deep (toward the shaft on the machine). As you lever the rod to pop up the bead, you MUST push as much of the rest of the bead into the channel (AHEAD of the bar pry point and all the way to the other side OPPOSITE of the pry point and any further if you can). You have to KEEP that leading bead pushed in the Channel as you push the bar around the shaft as it lifts the bead. It takes practice because the bead will "fight you" and want to pop up toward the rim lip. The whole idea is to keep as much of the bead as possible in the channel to give you plenty of SLACK at the the pry point to easily lift and pop the bead over the rim lip as you go around. Staring the rotation is the most difficult part because you need as much of the bead in the channel to get going, as more and more of the bead is lifted up over the lip as you go around, it gets easier. But keep that bead in the channel until the poped up portion of the bead is now providing slack for the opposite side. You are doing TWO critical and subtle operations at once (most people don't even see the subtle pushing of the bead into the channel because you can't see it (tires are not clear) - its all done by feel. Go slow and practice makes perfect. Once you master the technique, you will not need to lubricate the bead (which can cause corrosion and rim leaks if all moisture from the lubricant is not removed). Many people use lubricant when putting on (mounting) a tire and forget to COMPLETELY DRY off the bead, rim, and ANY water that gets inside the tire and rim. Any water (even a few drops) can cause corrosion and leaks. If you fail to keep the bead in the channel and force the pry bar, you will DAMAGE the bead and thus destroy the tire beyond use. Go slow, if it seems suck, DONT force it... back off and try again giving more attention to keeping the bead in the channel.
Notice how many times I mentioned "bead in the channel"... that is what makes sucessful and easy tire mounting/unmounting possible.
I know he knows what he is doing. Just that doggone murphy getting in the way. I had fun watching the video! He tries so hard to get where he wants to be it works. He is correct there are alot of people that complain when they are to blame about hobo freight. We still like it cuz nothing is perfect! Thank for the good video.
Thanks man! Just remember you can never use too much lube! A trick I came up with to get a small tire bead off once… I rigged the $15 HF vacuum pump to the valve stem, and when it pulled it enough that it started to leak, I started spraying the soapy water! If you can just get a tiny bit in somewhere, patience and more lube will pay off!
Something not related to the subject of this video. When I was 44 years old, I would become short winded just like you do when I would do simple tasks. Come to find out, thank goodness I did, I had major blockages in my left main arteries of my heart. WIDOW MAKER. That was 20 years ago and I'm more healthy now than ever before. Pay attention to little signs your body is telling you. I would not have survived an eventual heart attack. Great video. Now get checked out.
Thanks… I had that stupid long COVID crap! I spent the summer doing firewood, and I just thought the other day, it’s the first time in like 2 years I actually feel like I’m back in shape!
This guy is really good. Thanks
Good idea with the scotch bright pad!
I also bought a can of bead sealer tar for the rim and I run my grinder with the wire basket around the bead "Grove".
I worked at a pro shop for several years and this is how we did it there too.
My HF one is fine but I did break the nut out of the top of my old one. I may have overtightened it. But heck I probably changed 30 tires with it so it paid for itself. 😁
So far, just the crappy welds on that x-washer thing have been an issue. I put proper welds on it, so no biggie. 2 weeks, and the temps dropped 65 degrees since the day I did that, and those tires are still aired up! Pretty happy about that!
Did it like a boss, thanks man!
That "groove" is called the drop center....
Duckbill mod for these works amazingly well
See 14:05 with your RED bar the wrong way around (any red bar) you'll stuff the rubber really quickly, but use the "provided" duck-bill on the other end of that red bar (any RED bar) the tire will float on easy.
No huffing & puffing & gosh buggah, another blown rubber.
I didn't realize that a tire could be removed without some air power assistance. The main thing I saw with that tool is that the base needs to be bigger so it don't wiggle so much. That movement will eventually pull your anchors out of the floor.
awesome video, after damaging two tires i finally figured out how to dismount and mount a tire on rims. I'm just watching to see if theres any other techniques I can learn
get yerself a gallon of Black Jack Tire Repair BJK-LB-800 Tire Mounting Lubricant, and, a red Straight Lube Bucket for Coats Changers with 3 Lube Swabs that are 11.5" Length, and then slather away at all the surfaces, then go to town on your tire changin job. Then it doesn't matter if there's any leftover liquid anywhere on the rim or in the tire when your job's all done. The Black Jack is good for your tire, doesn't hurt the rim, and helps seal the bead even better.
You got to keep it in the groove
If nothing else it was very entertaining
Good stuff!!😁
Mine works but the bead breaker bends. The bar to mount the tire is difficult to use. Spoons work great.
11:34 Ever wonder why they put a DUCKBILL on the other end of that red bar?
It's to help you de-bead a tire off the rim.
Enjoyed the video.
you made hard work of that feller
That's right you got to talk to that tire talk to it
Thanks for the video
Thanks man .
Looks like you need to put some serious ass into the process! What a shame HF cant make this tool to work effectively without the need for buying the extra tools “Spoons” to make it work.
Thanks for the video 😎👍
I didn’t think anyone could change a Truck Tire or anything like 17” inch or larger with that whimsy Tire-changer tool but just goes to show you if there’s a will there’s a way 😮 p.s. good tip on those tire spoons I didn’t know about that. Where did you say you got them?
I did one for my F250 the other day, too! Just a little patience and a lot of lube!
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778 and wendyfyke55. You can even do Monster Truck tires (on the ground) with a few extra tire spoons and some wooden shims you shove in around the tire that you tap in with a rubber mallot to force and hold the bead in the channel. I did it and won a $100 bet. People think the bead stretches when mounting/dismounting a tire.... Nope! the bead is the least flexible part of any tire and is designed NOT to stretch. It should take little effort to lift the bead from the rim, it is bit harder to get going, but if you "work the bead/channel" properly all around as you go, even a Monster Truck tire can be done by hand without hydraulics.
A little lubrication helps and maybe an extra hand to work the extra spoons, but I did it myself with no help and no lube to win the bet. It took five minutes to get both beads off. Now, "breaking a bead" from the rim of a Monster Truck tire is very difficult and was not part of the bet. I would have to use my scissor jack with duck bill adapter and a pole to a sturdy joist in the ceiling trick for that. That is what I have in my garage at home, 4 long tire spoons, scissors jack, 3 foot breaker bar for the jack, hand made bead breaker duck bill adapter, steel pole, 8 hand made wooden bead shims, rubber mallot, and a ceiling stud that is counter weighted above to handle extra upward force. I also use a cargo strap with ratchet latch to squeeze the tire treads inward to force the beads against the rim lips when filling the the tire with air... a must have for 18+ inch rims.
Forgot to mention, the steel pole (pipe) is tethered to the joist with some bolts and a chain so it doesn't come crashing down on me when the bead breaks. I wear heavy duty leather gloves, heavy duty safety goggles, headphones (why not its part of my safety board), and a construction helmet when I do this.
WHEN REMOVING THE BOTTOM BEAD YOU TAKE YOUR SMALL TIRE IRON AND GO FROM THE BOTTOM AND PULL THE BAR UP AN IT WILL HELP A LOT
What is the duck bill on other end of bar
I’ve honestly never figured out what it is for.
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778 Flip the bar around and put the duckbill into the lifted bead, as it makes it far easier to keep it lifting (lube or no lube) than a flat single lever.
@@QUIX4Uyeah, the trick is to keep the bar up high as you rotate in the correct direction so it will guide the bead down into the rim. If you keep it horizontal while doing it, the angle of the ramp is too shallow and it's going to slip out.
your method is OK, the original HF tire bar is not good, at least, it needs finessing with a grinder to remove the sharp edges,
what I done is that I fabricated a bar with plastic tips so it does not cause damege to the rims or the tires and it is much easier to drive than the original bar. I don't use the small tire bars with my bar.
Ya should have turned pro tire wrestling champion 😮
Nice work , way to stress keeping it down in the grove it really is the key to it. I will listen to what anyone says as long as I know they hate liberals as much as I do lol.
You would think that would be every single American by this point. Oh yeah, I liked your tip with the shot of w-d40 down the socket to keep the lugs from sticking , going to start doing that!
OLD SCHOOL METHOD…..much easier and quicker.
Especially when you’re in the middle of nowhere and it’s Sunday!
The easiest way how to hear those babies up a little bit of starting fluid and then light it with a match poof it's on like Donkey Kong Keep It In the Groove yeah baby good job
Boy he sure does like his Lube
11:00
Wrong, 18 years is what they tell you (to allow you to think the end is near) but it ain't, kids still demand Daddy pay for this, that and almost everything else, until they are well into their thirties (if you are lucky).
But hey when they ask, you'll go all gooey inside and think - aw they still love me & need me.
Nah - they just know how to get you to open your wallet is all.
What about balancing your tire
When i say i have old trucks sitting around, they are from the 60's and 70's. No 50's and nothing newer than 1979.
its always better to do it yourself because you know it was done right instead of paying someone 20 dollars and still end up with a rim leak. that really pisses you off and you have to end up doing a tire breakdown and seal the rim
Thank you for the video. It looks like you removed the tire just to put it back on.
I flipped them around, because someone rebuilt my front end when I took my truck in for just a ball joint and it hasn’t been able to be lined up ever since! Lesson learned… fix it myself!
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778 Find out what he did and undue it or somehow get the car aligned. Easier said than done. But you probably already thought of that.
@@dyardsale5475 Yeah, it’s got 300k on it, so it’s a backroading truck now!
@@scottyshomesteaduniversity7778I spent 4 days doing 2 tires. It worked ok to dismount but mounting the 2nd bead failed both times. I may need to upgrade to duckbill or I need a better base for it as I have no ground to bolt it to. I thought it would have been a lot easier since I used to work at a car dealership, but we used machines not these. I found videos on how to mount the tire without a stand and I followed their advice to get the tires on.
@@dyardsale5475 Did you use ether? That’s my backup go-to!
I braced mine up with some Steele plate works way better.
My Ford at 3k miles(rack and pinion bad )front end shook when hit bumps
Clark Griswolds brother in law.
I too could not get that bar to work. It just jammed and twisted out of my hands.
It is relegated to the bead breaker only now
What you need is a new cheap to make lever, like the one I came up with in these links
th-cam.com/video/H_c2ZMIYWdE/w-d-xo.html
and even easier to make
th-cam.com/video/W8MddFsFmgA/w-d-xo.html
Alloy rims are harder to deal with, they seem stickier than steel rims
Good luck
That's funny that you said dumbass I use that word so many times
ive never seen anyone refit the tyer using the bar that comes in the kit ..and ive tried it myself its usless
You spray that water up inside a good tire and it will rott from the inside out.
You don't want to get it too wet then you'll have a mess hahaha that was a joke yeehaw
That’s what she said!
Great way to screw up a good rim!
Dude! put on some steel toes. You don't wanna be doing the Wahoo Mc Daniel dance if one of those tools falls on your toes! Just saying!
Awesome video Great work ! Trump 2024 !!!
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That was painful.
Your camera waver isn't doing a good enough job. Once in a while I can see something. Maybe hire a professional camera waver.
That tire changer is trash ! Scrap metal nothing else don be fool.
Why don't you tell me what communism is?
Wonder if those city liberals can change a tire on their electric car never mind take a tire off a rim.😅