My grandfather was a firefighter. He passed away 20 years ago. But I'm still catching myself watching the big red engines driving by with a childlike admiration.
I am a firefighter and I got nervous when the alpha attack was masking up under heavy black smoke had no helmet under the structure and then seconds over a rollover gives you goosebumps. He got very lucky 10 seconds later and he risked burns to his head.
I though the same. At 1:35 to 1:45 you can see firefighters inside the burning structure even though the building is obviously lost. A safety distance is kept at no point and a firefighter is almost hit by debris. I found this unit took unnecessary risks.
Couldn’t agree more. No thought to using the reach of the line and every once of fire can be reached on a shotgun house from the windows along the side. This is simply demonstration of normalization of deviance. We train to go through the door, so every time we are presented with an issue, we go through the door. Action without thought. I’m not being overly critical, I’ve done the same myself, many times. We just need to do better and learn what FSRI has taught us.
It is a shame because they have a tower ladder that was sitting doing nothing instead of using it to spray water from the roof to the the ground. I bet they would put that fire out way quicker
4th week in the fire academy here in Houston, watched this video and definitely noticed a few things off and I'm green in this field. Glad I saw this for certain things not to do but also still respect and appreciate these people for what they do
As an Australian young man myself born in 1998 from Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia I really look up to firefighters the men and women who work extremely hard to aid & rescue people in danger whether they are boys, girls, men & women. They even save animals which is very sweet. Firefighters are truly incredible human beings because they are so courageous and so selfless. To me they will always be my heroes. As human beings we should all follow the three principles of life compassion, empathy and love to have a more perfect union. 👍🏾 🚒
Hey Mate, so nice to see this. I love being a Fireman, giving back to the community is the best feeling in the world. I'm in Sydney at least once a year, wife is from there, happy to bring some Tee Shirts from my crew for you.
I've always respected the firefighters, and it's an honor to see the fire scene and the crackdown process like this. I feel that the world is beautiful because there are firefighters who think of dangerous things as their own. Thanks a lot.
Why set up a roof ladder, when the fire has self ventilated to 80% of the roof? The spontanious smoke ignition was awesome, I just can not figure out why only one guy was properly suited up.
That firefighter was going on training instinct. However for a unresponsive patient before you put on a blood pressure cuff you wanna check for a pulse first. This guy went straight for the blood pressure cuff.
build was a burn to ground. save the trash. have some fun. but, they needed to get more ventilation so it would not flash over like it was. Black you jacked. you see black going back into the building like that you need to vent and cool at the exact same time. it wanted oxygen badly. and do what ever it needed. it had the Heat and it had the fuel already building up. when you vent to are allowing 3 thinks to happen. oxygen to move into the fire. heat and unburden vapor fuel to move out if roof venting.
@@Master-ls2op it was already ventilated by the fire, windows blown out, fire coming out if the roof, probably why the decided not to go on the roof and vent.
read the smoke it was not vented. Black smoke is fuel and can easily flash all it needs to do is get in the correct ratio of oxygen, fuel, to heat and boom. that smoke is dark gray-black. with a nice aggressive rollback. don't know what the full options are but removing bars and getting clear airflow low and high will help keep the heat low and protect the exposures.
I'm curious about how these firefighters thought those window fences, 3" apart, would avoid a stream reaching the fire... Also curious about why they didn´t put a stream through the windows...
I know its LAFD and they fight a lot of fire, but that was an absolute cluster at the front door. The FF stretching the line dumped it at the front gate, then got directed (by a truck FF no less) to move around the side (where he again dumped it, then was directed to the front door. When they finally started the attack, it was a Captain on the nozzle and the FF who stretched the line was still putting on his gloves and ended up three guys back from the nozzle. Had to be a probie.
I’m retired from LA County and there isn’t anyone that is going to jump on City’s case it’s going to be me. That being said, the guy that took the nozzle after the flashover was not just correct but a Captain. He did so because flashover can happen back to back and the second is always worse. X pattern to the roof of the fire will cool the gases and make better conditions for entry! The guy that was on the nozzle and came out? Not sure why he came out but look closely he had a glove on!
@@bondservantministriesinc.672 We aren’t talking about me, this both la and la county have absolute horrible fireground tactics and command structure, this fire was a very small home. Yet they made it into a chaotic situation that it didn’t need to be. Dumping hose in the front door, running around in a panic, no order from the chief as far as keeping everyone together. You guys couldn’t put a fire out if you all stood around it and urinated on it…..
Why are they never ready to fight fires? They never have there face pieces on until they are on the porch or near the doors, they open a door and don't have the water ready and that one guy his suspenders were around his waist? Just what I've noticed
I always ask that especially with the new style SCBA's........... 20 years ago I rode/ worked a lot of shifts with Detroit FD and they used old style Scott Packs which once you masked up, you had to be on air, so they waited until they were on the porch to mask up. Now days a mask can be on, and just plug the regulator in before going in. Kills me to see guys getting off custom chassis engines still putting on coats, hanging packs. 🤦♂️ My guys get off the engine masked up, tool in hand if not the one stretching a line to the door.
Not always depends on the set up. Like I live in Southern California in a neighborhood like this and our apartment has bars which are on hinges and there’s a big release lever on the wall in the bedrooms and when you pull it the bars swing off like a door and you can get out the window
Well, at least they saved the foundation and front step. This should be a training film on what not to do. You don't need those bars off the windows, you can squirt water through them and you aren't going to use the window to enter the building anyway. 0:35 Do you really intend to climb that ladder onto the roof? Really? YOU are an idiot. 0:39 Thick black smoke. What could possibly go wrong? Maybe a "roll over" about to happen? 0:40 Yep. 2:58 This fire is what's known as "a loser". Fight it through the windows and try to keep the exterior walls from falling because if they do, the building next door is in real jeopardy. Here's a thought, you have a million dollar aerial truck sitting there...maybe use it to get above the fire.
0:37 Nice Flashover... But what I don´t understand is : The Building is complete Burning, and why then the Risk of a Interior Attack ? There is in my Opinion absolut no reason for this. They could normaly get the Fire from outside without any Problems, the Windows are destroyed, so the could put enough Water on the Fire. The Risk is visible ,when a Part from the Roof fell down (2:55 min. ) and nearly hit 3 Firefighter. Here in Germany we learn on Rules at First: At a Fire stay out of the "drop shadow" of a burning Building. You can´t know who stable a Wall is. I think the Captain here goes on a unnecessary Risk for his Man.
It's simple thing are done differently here in the USA. Large departments with a lot of resources tend to use older tactics. Departments with less resources will use transitional attacks.
@@sebrassino Just because you disagree with the tactics it doesn't always make them stupid. And what level of risk is taken is different around the world. Now would I have chosen those tactics? No I would have used a transitional attack. But that is how it's done by the LA City FD . That's the they have been doing things for years and it works for them.
@@j81870 dude... Doing things for years. It's change that makes you better. Learn and practice newer tactics. Putting lives at risk due to poor training of a commander and then the excuse of this how they do it for years. That's no excuse. You always have to look for improvement. Working more efficiently. Practice basic procedures so they becpme a habit. The level of risk is taken is to high and could be easily avoided by simple changes. There widespread available yet the pride of some people that think knowing it better is standing in its way.
@@sebrassino Poor training are you kidding me. You act like they are some underfund, untrained brand new Volunteer Fire Department. So if you don't like how they do things in LA City than stay out of LA. No need to bash them since it's obvious you don't understand how thing works in LA City FD .
0:40 This is what happens when the smoke ignites once it meets the fresh air from outside. The oxygen levels inside the house are most likely too low to allow combustion, but the unburned fuel is still very hot.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Still growing? Nah, at this point it already flashed over, spread to other rooms and vented through the windows. Whatever fresh air comes inside is used up pretty quickly.
@@TheWaynelds No it's flashed over in the back part and the flammable gases in the front have then flashed. Trust me I know. Please tell me you ain't a career firefighter ?
The other just yesterday we drove past a house that was being put out by firefighters and today we drive past it. Completely demolished I am so sad that the people have to go through that
That was an unexpected move by the LAFD, and a little dangerous. You never open a ventilation point until you have a hose ready and charged. You could see the massive amount of black smoke coming out which indicates a superheated oxygen devoid fire room. That was a flashover as all that black smoke ignited upon introduction of oxygen. Anyway I feel bad for the family's loss assuming this wasn't a vacant house. My prayers go out to them.
@@HB-yq8gy exactly. That’s why ladders go up and bars are removed…obviously this home is a loss, but better to do it and not need it versus worst case…
Theres a lack of water being applied to the fire.The House is lost and so is any life in there.Remove your B.A. if its not needed.Cutting of railings is unnecessary when you have doors open. wear your Fire kit properly. Alot of firefighters at that fire doing very little. Don't forget your Health and Safety.
One firefighter wearing his bunker gear not correctly with his suspenders not on him but instead are hanging down from his jacket as a former volunteer firefighter If I was the officer and saw that I would pull him aside and say wear your gear properly I won't be putting him into the LDH until he gets his gear on properly
I'm a UK firefighter in the West Midlands. Why does nobody spray water into the building??? Genuine question. Such a weird way of fighting fire. No water sprayed at all.
Sorry but this is prob a surround and drown case.. no need to set up a ladder for ventilation.. it’s a complete loss. Secondly. Why was the ff setting up the ladder on the incline portion of the roof? No way was it getting a solid 4point contact. Yes.. ff are hero’s but there is a point when you gotta say.. is it worth risking your life when the building has this amount of flame shooting through the roof. There’s the right way, wrong way and the LA city way. But still
You have to be intelligent and possess a strong and responsible work ethic to do a job right before you can even think about doing something heroic. 95% of USA firefighters would screw up sweeping floors.
Have to be able to think beyond motor memory. WHY is there being a ladder set up for a fully involved roof that has vented? Too many people in a small space.
RULE OF THUMB...if anybody cares out there. NEVER, NEVER go into any structure WITHOUT a CHARGED LINE. The Hot Dog on the porch before the Flashover could have become dinner.
What about search for a known life hazard before a line is in place and operating? Are you really going to wait for a line to start your search? I am not talking about this particular case, but when you start using "Never" you limit your ability to do our job of saving lives...
QUESTION from a non-firefighter: wouldn't it be much quicker to use the cutters on an extrication tool to snip through the window bars? They spent a LOT of time sawing through them.
There is no reason to cut out window bars.. its a defensive operation. Change your tactics and objectives. also there are to many firefighters on scene walking around. They can be useful by protecting exposures.
@@brysonstringer183 it’s important to account the fact how easy the rush of a working fire can make you forget simple tasks. You can do bunk up drills and mask up drills all day everyday. When the tone drops, there will still be mess ups. They must keep training until it’s near impossible to miss the simple things.
@@martiam451 maybe so in a volunteer dept, but in a career dept that runs fires daily, certain things ( should) become 2nd nature, like getting your gear on right, especially suspenders so his pants didn't come down after they get wet.
@@Cheesecake99YearsAgo Correction, it is not to be confused with backdraft, which is what occurred here. Flashover is when a high concentration of smoke pushes itself out of a space under a roof and pushes fresh air in to create a convection current that allows heat from the smoke to radiate down and ignite fuels underneath that the initial fire cannot reach. Backdraft is when there is limited to no air intake into the space, which would normally smother out the flames, but there still exists high amounts of heat and fuels inside. Once air is suddenly let in, which is what happened in the first when the firefighters opened the front door, combustion can restart itself and ignite the smoke. The smoke can only be ignited under a very specific concentration (which is not known), so a backdraft is very unpredictable and may not immediately occur when oxygen is let into the room. So that firefighter next to the doorway is lucky to not have been directly in front of the door at the wrong time.
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If this was a smaller S. Cal FD, It would be handled better than LA City with too many boots that don't do any meaningful work.... Three-3-man Eng Companies and one 4-man truck could have done this job more effectively
Some of that seemed like it would be unnecessary. I don't understand the point of going to the extremes of some of these procedures. The house was already a loss.
I was a firefighter as well and I can tell you they missed all of the signs of a backdraft and or flashover right in front of their faces these firefighters look like that no idea what they were doing this building is all but gone they're better off to protect the two structures on the sides
There was a fire here in my complex last night… on Christmas out of everyday. 1 house fire spread to 4 units and completely destroyed everything. It’s absolutely terrifying to see this shit in real life.
A whole lot of what not to do man’s suspenders were not even donned right over ventilating by having the door open and creating more oxogen flow and they don’t realize it’s a bi directional flow which means exhausts at the top and clean air from the bottom to go in and the smoke up top is hot enough to ignite at any given moment also known as black fire
@@michaelfreeze2949 In fairness Michael I think the stats this year include many covid related deaths. That said the amount of firefighters killed and seriously injured in fires and vehicle accidents involving firetrucks over there is far too high.
Sorry, but this was just a cluster from the moment the trucks got on scene. Opening a vent point without a charged hose line ready to go: dangerous. Why go interior when it’s clear to even the probie on scene, this house was a total loss. This is called a defensive fire and surround it and drown it.
My grandfather was a firefighter. He passed away 20 years ago. But I'm still catching myself watching the big red engines driving by with a childlike admiration.
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He was a legend. Rest in piece
@@DL4W221 yeah, forty years of the service, from his first to his last siren. Thank you.
@@dimaleoniv7987I just realized I spelled something wrong I am very sorry. I meant to say rest in peace 😔
this is so sweet. may he rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Random people on youtube always know better than any professional in any situation.
Wow.....I mean LA City is usually on the ball but this was brutal to watch!
Definitely!
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Agree I’m surprised. We can all learn from it though so respect for putting it up
I am a firefighter and I got nervous when the alpha attack was masking up under heavy black smoke had no helmet under the structure and then seconds over a rollover gives you goosebumps. He got very lucky 10 seconds later and he risked burns to his head.
I though the same. At 1:35 to 1:45 you can see firefighters inside the burning structure even though the building is obviously lost. A safety distance is kept at no point and a firefighter is almost hit by debris. I found this unit took unnecessary risks.
Couldn’t agree more. No thought to using the reach of the line and every once of fire can be reached on a shotgun house from the windows along the side. This is simply demonstration of normalization of deviance. We train to go through the door, so every time we are presented with an issue, we go through the door. Action without thought. I’m not being overly critical, I’ve done the same myself, many times. We just need to do better and learn what FSRI has taught us.
It is a shame because they have a tower ladder that was sitting doing nothing instead of using it to spray water from the roof to the the ground. I bet they would put that fire out way quicker
4th week in the fire academy here in Houston, watched this video and definitely noticed a few things off and I'm green in this field. Glad I saw this for certain things not to do but also still respect and appreciate these people for what they do
As an Australian young man myself born in 1998 from Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia I really look up to firefighters the men and women who work extremely hard to aid & rescue people in danger whether they are boys, girls, men & women. They even save animals which is very sweet. Firefighters are truly incredible human beings because they are so courageous and so selfless. To me they will always be my heroes. As human beings we should all follow the three principles of life compassion, empathy and love to have a more perfect union. 👍🏾 🚒
Hey Mate, so nice to see this. I love being a Fireman, giving back to the community is the best feeling in the world. I'm in Sydney at least once a year, wife is from there, happy to bring some Tee Shirts from my crew for you.
You couldn't have said it better. I plan on being a firefighter when I grow up!
@@wesrobinson7366 Thanks mate I really appreciate it and take care of yourself.
@@valeriehines4642 I hope you do and we need to teach the younger generation to look up to firefighters.
@@valeriehines4642 If you live in a town with a volunteer force you can join early.
I've always respected the firefighters, and it's an honor to see the fire scene and the crackdown process like this. I feel that the world is beautiful because there are firefighters who think of dangerous things as their own. Thanks a lot.
Yeah big salute and respect to them! 🫡
Why set up a roof ladder, when the fire has self ventilated to 80% of the roof?
The spontanious smoke ignition was awesome, I just can not figure out why only one guy was properly suited up.
What do you expect it’s in LA.
Just bloody stupid, get on and do other stuff when a ladder is of no use.
That firefighter was going on training instinct. However for a unresponsive patient before you put on a blood pressure cuff you wanna check for a pulse first. This guy went straight for the blood pressure cuff.
@@john-martin No it's pretty obvious you don't need a ladder. Just wasted time.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Comment went way over your head i see
I love how at 0:40 hes just looks up so calm and casually, and probably thinking, "Oh, that's seems a little unusual." 😂
If a safety officer was anywhere near the scene of this fire his pen would be out of ink.
Huge respect to these firefighters and all the other firefighters around the world♡
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Roof operations on a ventilated fire? Interior attack? Wasn't this structure abandoned?
build was a burn to ground. save the trash. have some fun. but, they needed to get more ventilation so it would not flash over like it was. Black you jacked. you see black going back into the building like that you need to vent and cool at the exact same time. it wanted oxygen badly. and do what ever it needed. it had the Heat and it had the fuel already building up. when you vent to are allowing 3 thinks to happen. oxygen to move into the fire. heat and unburden vapor fuel to move out if roof venting.
How do you know it was abandoned.
@@Master-ls2op it was already ventilated by the fire, windows blown out, fire coming out if the roof, probably why the decided not to go on the roof and vent.
read the smoke it was not vented. Black smoke is fuel and can easily flash all it needs to do is get in the correct ratio of oxygen, fuel, to heat and boom. that smoke is dark gray-black. with a nice aggressive rollback. don't know what the full options are but removing bars and getting clear airflow low and high will help keep the heat low and protect the exposures.
Not a single one of you commenting have any actual experience fighting fire and it shows….
I'm curious about how these firefighters thought those window fences, 3" apart, would avoid a stream reaching the fire...
Also curious about why they didn´t put a stream through the windows...
If they just showed up with water and put the fire out in 15 seconds like they could their jobs would start getting cut.
I know its LAFD and they fight a lot of fire, but that was an absolute cluster at the front door. The FF stretching the line dumped it at the front gate, then got directed (by a truck FF no less) to move around the side (where he again dumped it, then was directed to the front door. When they finally started the attack, it was a Captain on the nozzle and the FF who stretched the line was still putting on his gloves and ended up three guys back from the nozzle. Had to be a probie.
I’m retired from LA County and there isn’t anyone that is going to jump on City’s case it’s going to be me. That being said, the guy that took the nozzle after the flashover was not just correct but a Captain. He did so because flashover can happen back to back and the second is always worse. X pattern to the roof of the fire will cool the gases and make better conditions for entry! The guy that was on the nozzle and came out? Not sure why he came out but look closely he had a glove on!
The entire show was a cluster!!!!!!
@@bondservantministriesinc.672 LAFD and LA County FD Sucks!!!! Absolute horrible departments and operational tactics!!!!!
@@NguageTrains and what department do you work for?
@@bondservantministriesinc.672 We aren’t talking about me, this both la and la county have absolute horrible fireground tactics and command structure, this fire was a very small home. Yet they made it into a chaotic situation that it didn’t need to be. Dumping hose in the front door, running around in a panic, no order from the chief as far as keeping everyone together. You guys couldn’t put a fire out if you all stood around it and urinated on it…..
thank you for your service
Nothing shows more bravery and courage than a firefighter.
All I see them putting their life risk for no reason. The building can collapse 😅
Im a fire fighter in Australia and fighting fires can be rough, tough and scary. But it is always rewarding.
🤣don't use a chainsaw get water
If I were the next door neighbor, I would come out with my own garden hose and start spraying down my own house.
How many garden hoses do you prepare?
Why are they never ready to fight fires? They never have there face pieces on until they are on the porch or near the doors, they open a door and don't have the water ready and that one guy his suspenders were around his waist? Just what I've noticed
I always ask that especially with the new style SCBA's........... 20 years ago I rode/ worked a lot of shifts with Detroit FD and they used old style Scott Packs which once you masked up, you had to be on air, so they waited until they were on the porch to mask up. Now days a mask can be on, and just plug the regulator in before going in. Kills me to see guys getting off custom chassis engines still putting on coats, hanging packs. 🤦♂️ My guys get off the engine masked up, tool in hand if not the one stretching a line to the door.
00:39 That looks scary! 02:58 Another close call!
Good job, firefighters-and apparently no one hurt? Thank heavens!
And thanks to ONSCENE reporters for bringing us news that no one else will. 💚
@Ola laa Aren’t you lucky not to be here, then?
@@recynd77 Lucky not to be here?
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that flashover though! wow!
Awesome shots of some great fire behavior!
Bars on the windows may deter burglars, but in the event of a fire..you’re SCREWED!
They didn't even need to cut the bars.. they could just break the glass and shoot water through the window...
Not always depends on the set up. Like I live in Southern California in a neighborhood like this and our apartment has bars which are on hinges and there’s a big release lever on the wall in the bedrooms and when you pull it the bars swing off like a door and you can get out the window
Well, at least they saved the foundation and front step.
This should be a training film on what not to do. You don't need those bars off the windows, you can squirt water through them and you aren't going to use the window to enter the building anyway.
0:35 Do you really intend to climb that ladder onto the roof? Really? YOU are an idiot.
0:39 Thick black smoke. What could possibly go wrong? Maybe a "roll over" about to happen?
0:40 Yep.
2:58 This fire is what's known as "a loser". Fight it through the windows and try to keep the exterior walls from falling because if they do, the building next door is in real jeopardy. Here's a thought, you have a million dollar aerial truck sitting there...maybe use it to get above the fire.
Where did you fight fire, Pound puppy?
@@kentcarter835 I agree with him. What a bunch of morons. 34 years as a career firefighter.
0:37 Nice Flashover...
But what I don´t understand is : The Building is complete Burning, and why then the Risk of a Interior Attack ? There is in my Opinion absolut no reason for this. They could normaly get the Fire from outside without any Problems, the Windows are destroyed, so the could put enough Water on the Fire. The Risk is visible ,when a Part from the Roof fell down (2:55 min. ) and nearly hit 3 Firefighter. Here in Germany we learn on Rules at First: At a Fire stay out of the "drop shadow" of a burning Building. You can´t know who stable a Wall is. I think the Captain here goes on a unnecessary Risk for his Man.
It's simple thing are done differently here in the USA. Large departments with a lot of resources tend to use older tactics. Departments with less resources will use transitional attacks.
@@j81870 done differently aka done stupid and risking life's. There is so much done without thinking or reason in this video.
@@sebrassino Just because you disagree with the tactics it doesn't always make them stupid. And what level of risk is taken is different around the world.
Now would I have chosen those tactics? No I would have used a transitional attack. But that is how it's done by the LA City FD . That's the they have been doing things for years and it works for them.
@@j81870 dude... Doing things for years. It's change that makes you better. Learn and practice newer tactics. Putting lives at risk due to poor training of a commander and then the excuse of this how they do it for years. That's no excuse. You always have to look for improvement. Working more efficiently. Practice basic procedures so they becpme a habit. The level of risk is taken is to high and could be easily avoided by simple changes. There widespread available yet the pride of some people that think knowing it better is standing in its way.
@@sebrassino
Poor training are you kidding me.
You act like they are some underfund, untrained brand new Volunteer Fire Department.
So if you don't like how they do things in LA City than stay out of LA.
No need to bash them since it's obvious you don't understand how thing works in LA City FD .
I'm proud and blessed that we have firefighters. Always on time to save someone and do the things to do to keep everyone safe
0:40 This is what happens when the smoke ignites once it meets the fresh air from outside. The oxygen levels inside the house are most likely too low to allow combustion, but the unburned fuel is still very hot.
The oxygen levels are fine , it's just the fire still growing and the flammable gases have reached there ignition point.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Still growing? Nah, at this point it already flashed over, spread to other rooms and vented through the windows. Whatever fresh air comes inside is used up pretty quickly.
@@TheWaynelds No it's flashed over in the back part and the flammable gases in the front have then flashed. Trust me I know. Please tell me you ain't a career firefighter ?
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Fire needs o2 or it won't burn.
@Pete Bennington Well done you just stated the obvious.
The other just yesterday we drove past a house that was being put out by firefighters and today we drive past it. Completely demolished I am so sad that the people have to go through that
That was an unexpected move by the LAFD, and a little dangerous. You never open a ventilation point until you have a hose ready and charged. You could see the massive amount of black smoke coming out which indicates a superheated oxygen devoid fire room. That was a flashover as all that black smoke ignited upon introduction of oxygen. Anyway I feel bad for the family's loss assuming this wasn't a vacant house. My prayers go out to them.
I was thinking the same exact thing I saw that black smoke and immediately after a flash over happened
I dont really see the point in cutting window-bars when the house is totally engulfed in flames
Good practice why waste it?
Need a means of escape for those going interior to fight the fire. Hard to get thru steal bars of stuff goes bad inside.
@@irishdrums4753 Basic got that right you get a May Day call and they can’t get out the windows?
@@HB-yq8gy exactly. That’s why ladders go up and bars are removed…obviously this home is a loss, but better to do it and not need it versus worst case…
wow! that flashover out the door!
That firefighter is lucky he didn’t get hurt because that is a hell of a lot of heat coming out of that door at once. I am glad everyone was safe
Technically it’s not a flashover it’s a good example on smoke ignition though and why you get ready before the do and have the line in hand
Theres a lack of water being applied to the fire.The House is lost and so is any life in there.Remove your B.A. if its not needed.Cutting of railings is unnecessary when you have doors open. wear your Fire kit properly. Alot of firefighters at that fire doing very little. Don't forget your Health and Safety.
Why do an interior attack on this? It has flashed, nobody is alive in there. Unnecessary risk.
That house was gone before they even started .
Need to retitle this to... Fire fighters watch house burn down and adjust a lot of helmets. Lol, it's like they have never seen a fire.
Better to plan than to rush and cause an even larger fire
Who else knew the side of the roof was going to fall but they carelessly stood under it? Then it ended up almost taking dude out 😑
They should dispatch you and your BarcaLounger to all fire calls. They can set up your chair on the front lawn and you can bark out advice.
One firefighter wearing his bunker gear not correctly with his suspenders not on him but instead are hanging down from his jacket as a former volunteer firefighter If I was the officer and saw that I would pull him aside and say wear your gear properly I won't be putting him into the LDH until he gets his gear on properly
I'm a UK firefighter in the West Midlands.
Why does nobody spray water into the building???
Genuine question.
Such a weird way of fighting fire.
No water sprayed at all.
Grass
@@jonwillis4109 Why waist their water.... The house is already a goner..... And the outer walls contains the fire well so it not spreading 😉😉😉
@@jonwillis4109 hi john from west Midlands I'm also a brummie. Take care out there Jon.
What’s a LDH? You mean IDLH?
Difficult to watch.Those firefighters are more lucky than they realize.I would have walked off of this job.
Well, bye!
@@joshacevedo2274 Another future LODD heard from ...
Wooooow. A pretty much total loss. Should gav easily been a total exterior attack
Sorry but this is prob a surround and drown case.. no need to set up a ladder for ventilation.. it’s a complete loss. Secondly. Why was the ff setting up the ladder on the incline portion of the roof? No way was it getting a solid 4point contact. Yes.. ff are hero’s but there is a point when you gotta say.. is it worth risking your life when the building has this amount of flame shooting through the roof. There’s the right way, wrong way and the LA city way. But still
You have to be intelligent and possess a strong and responsible work ethic to do a job right before you can even think about doing something heroic. 95% of USA firefighters would screw up sweeping floors.
Have to be able to think beyond motor memory. WHY is there being a ladder set up for a fully involved roof that has vented? Too many people in a small space.
RULE OF THUMB...if anybody cares out there. NEVER, NEVER go into any structure WITHOUT a CHARGED LINE. The Hot Dog on the porch before the Flashover could have become dinner.
Thats not a rule at all. Went in first on the nozzle with uncharged line at least a HUNDRED times. ...I would not on this one though!
Uhm….I’ve routinely stretched dry
And never go in alone. If you're on the nozzle, you need someone to handle the hose. This video is a good example of how NOT to fight a fire.
What about search for a known life hazard before a line is in place and operating? Are you really going to wait for a line to start your search? I am not talking about this particular case, but when you start using "Never" you limit your ability to do our job of saving lives...
It seems like whenever there is a house fire. Even if the fire fighters show up the house always burns down anyway.
That one was gone from the start.
It is also to prevent the fire from spreading to other houses you know
Hahaha to funny
US FD don't tend to get water on early. They stand around watching it burn for a bit. It's kind of like a controlled burn.
Just another routine 800 sq ft bungalow burner in South Central... happens every other night !
Right off Crenshaw, everyone's favorite
Job security neighborhood huh? Lol
Gotta wonder why the ff threw the ladder. Obviously, the roof was already self-venting, and who in their right mind would get on that roof?
What is the cause
QUESTION from a non-firefighter: wouldn't it be much quicker to use the cutters on an extrication tool to snip through the window bars? They spent a LOT of time sawing through them.
There was no reason to cut the bars, that was just killing time while they watch the house burn.
The Benny Hill Brigade.
There is no reason to cut out window bars.. its a defensive operation. Change your tactics and objectives. also there are to many firefighters on scene walking around. They can be useful by protecting exposures.
For a second I thought this was a game because of how high quality the camera is
Why do they cut the windows?
They don't cut the windows. They cut off the security bars covering the windows.
Is this the actual LAFD? I've seen some pretty great videos of them. They look like amateurs here.
Yeah man seriously, one guy didn’t have his suspenders on and another didn’t have his SCBA waist belt even clipped like wtf.
@@brysonstringer183 it’s important to account the fact how easy the rush of a working fire can make you forget simple tasks. You can do bunk up drills and mask up drills all day everyday. When the tone drops, there will still be mess ups. They must keep training until it’s near impossible to miss the simple things.
@@martiam451 maybe so in a volunteer dept, but in a career dept that runs fires daily, certain things ( should) become 2nd nature, like getting your gear on right, especially suspenders so his pants didn't come down after they get wet.
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They use wood ladders? How common are those now?
0:41 wow, I've never seen smoke ignite, that was pretty cool and terrifying.
I think it is called flashover
@@Cheesecake99YearsAgo Correction, it is not to be confused with backdraft, which is what occurred here. Flashover is when a high concentration of smoke pushes itself out of a space under a roof and pushes fresh air in to create a convection current that allows heat from the smoke to radiate down and ignite fuels underneath that the initial fire cannot reach. Backdraft is when there is limited to no air intake into the space, which would normally smother out the flames, but there still exists high amounts of heat and fuels inside. Once air is suddenly let in, which is what happened in the first when the firefighters opened the front door, combustion can restart itself and ignite the smoke. The smoke can only be ignited under a very specific concentration (which is not known), so a backdraft is very unpredictable and may not immediately occur when oxygen is let into the room. So that firefighter next to the doorway is lucky to not have been directly in front of the door at the wrong time.
Why the belt axe? In the entire video they are all moving them as they are in their way?
0:39 that flame burst looks *so* cool!
Off day for the lafd?
Good job! 👍
I wonder what they were trying to save. That structure was last when the first crew arrived.
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If this was a smaller S. Cal FD, It would be handled better than LA City with too many boots that don't do any meaningful work.... Three-3-man Eng Companies and one 4-man truck could have done this job more effectively
I was going to say that it seemed like just too many on scene to be organized and disciplined.
Some of that seemed like it would be unnecessary. I don't understand the point of going to the extremes of some of these procedures. The house was already a loss.
That’s some badass footage
Why did they have a ladder truck and they never raised it ?
For a ranch house?
Because there was no need to. It's a one story building.
In so eine Hütte schickt man niemanden mehr rein da ist ehh nix zu retten
WHY THE LADDER FOR WHAT THE ROOF IS GONE.
Lol I'm from LA and I Nvr say Vermont and Slauson, we say Slauson and Vermont! 😂😂😂
Wow at 0:41 every firefighters worst nightmare a flashover.
What happens at 0:40
A flashover.
This was messed up. Why was he laddering a burning roof? Not a good example of proper fire tactics.
May God bless and watch over our firefighters and first responders. 🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻
Spectacular video!
Lmao if you throw enough fire fighters at the fire it will go out at some point lol
Don’t forget to put on your suspenders 🤣
0:38 you can see it in the window, that was one hell of a flashover
Why does is take so long for anyone to get water on the situation. ?
Where is the aggressive interior fire attack?
Use water use water
I was a firefighter as well and I can tell you they missed all of the signs of a backdraft and or flashover right in front of their faces these firefighters look like that no idea what they were doing this building is all but gone they're better off to protect the two structures on the sides
There was a fire here in my complex last night… on Christmas out of everyday. 1 house fire spread to 4 units and completely destroyed everything. It’s absolutely terrifying to see this shit in real life.
A whole lot of what not to do man’s suspenders were not even donned right over ventilating by having the door open and creating more oxogen flow and they don’t realize it’s a bi directional flow which means exhausts at the top and clean air from the bottom to go in and the smoke up top is hot enough to ignite at any given moment also known as black fire
They have more water leaking out the side of the fire truck than they do inside the house
If you knew anything about fire apparatus you would know that is normal overflow.
Wtf was that? Textbook demonstration on what not to do 😂
So many things are wrong in this video. One Fire man doesn’t have his PPE on correctly. The other isn’t in full PPE.. etc
Nice catch 😀👍👍 good job LAFD 🚒🏬 Thanks for the video & the channel!! Keep up the good work!!! Excellent video &:audio quality as well!!
Are you serious???? Lol.
"النار عنوانه تعذيب والحب عنوانه الاجراح"
Porque durán tanto tiempo para darle agua
Really amazed at the lack of appropriate use of safety gear and situational awareness.
Em 00:39 acontece o fenômeno conhecido por FLASH OVER aonde a fumaça pega fogo 🔥
Vermont and Slauson… I lived on Normandie and Slauson
All house windows covered in steel bars…..how could anyone live like that?
To keep burglars away ? Why not
Iron bars*
That's how they have to live.............welcome to big " inner" city life
That flashover was beautiful!!
You should be a fire fighter.
Why are non of them on air? Smh
Why on earth do they get masked up right in front of the doorway when its about to flashover. Thats how firefighters get injured for no reason.
121 American firefighters have died in 2021 so far this year, 121 too many
@@michaelfreeze2949 In fairness Michael I think the stats this year include many covid related deaths. That said the amount of firefighters killed and seriously injured in fires and vehicle accidents involving firetrucks over there is far too high.
It flashed over real quick
This has to be a volunteer department. Ain’t no way
Sorry, but this was just a cluster from the moment the trucks got on scene. Opening a vent point without a charged hose line ready to go: dangerous. Why go interior when it’s clear to even the probie on scene, this house was a total loss. This is called a defensive fire and surround it and drown it.
This is an example of why you don't put bars over the windows.