Go with Desktop and maybe Windows tablet. Those half things aren´t worth the Money. For around 1800$ for Razer Blade + Core + rather low end GPU you get a 1300$ Highend Skylake Desktop with Monitor + Tablet for 500$
I guess you didn't really need a laptop. ;-) With Windows 8.1's and 10's ability to provide remote connections, desktops are much more functional, even when travelling.
People are acting like they know everything when they say just build a desktop instead of getting that setup. The reason why this setup was developed was to expand the flexibility and mobility of PCs. With a Razer laptop, the Razer Core, and possibly second monitor, keyboard, and other peripherals, you can do what desktops cannot. You can disconnect the laptop and use it for trips or for school. When you return home you can connect it to the core and play with similar performance to a desktop setup. This product wasn't designed to be a desktop replacement, but for convenience.
THANK YOU! I can see what people are saying by it being cheaper but the convenience of having a laptop that can become a desktop just outweighs it for some people imo. Different needs for different people :)
I'm due for a new laptop next year. The possibility of a laptop that can run an external GPU excites me, but the cost of the Razer Core is really the major roadblock for mobile PC gamers. If the Razer Core is $400 plus an additional ~$300 for the GPU, you can almost build an entire desktop PC for the same price. So you can have both a slim laptop for work/travel AND an entirely independent gaming PC at home for just a little more. $400 for this technology is ridiculous, and hopefully there will be competition from other companies in the near future to drive the price down.
I do agree but we have to account that razer has "razer tax" ( they just price their products ridiculously high compared to most other company's would). There are the akitio brand who've been making eGPU like products for years (people who game on Macbooks tend to buy eGPU's from these guys). There's the coolermaster one and the asus external GPU. Hopefully the amount of competition will drive the price down but I think at the least, we'll be paying around $200 for an eGPU
The same thought. I am still thinking, what will be less expensive, this razer core stuff with let us say gtx1070 or some MSI GT72S with 1070 when it is released?
Man these videos are really important for some people. I am looking for an egpu setup and you are the only youtuber with quality laptop/egpu content. Great work. Keep them coming. You are doing the gods work.
glad that u tested the core with other laptop and mentioned the instability. linus review of the same core is misleading as he mention it is working with other laptop. I believe he just tested initial connectivity and no further testing
Could you make a more elaborate video about the compatibility with Notebooks from other manufacturers? There are some rules you have to follow when trying to connect these though. - Update all drivers and especially the BIOS / TB3 Firmware for the Notebook - Properly wipe the NVidia drivers ( there are special tools for this ) - Try the latest NVidia driver and the one from the Razer Homepage ( wipe between them ) - Full up to date Razer Synapse ( important for the Core itself ) - disable ( in the device manager ) the dedicated GPU if it has one. It would be super appreciated because you actually have all those notebooks to test it with!
Thanks for testing other Laptops as well!I was extremely interested in AW15 compatibility and it's nice to see that it's working already, so I'm eager to see other Thunderbolt 3 GPU housings coming!
Awesome review Dave! I bought the 15" XPS earlier this year and the potential for this to be my future setup has me excited. I'm pleased that it already half-works on the XPS series. I was honestly expecting it to not work at all this early on.
Hey Dave your video reviews are AMAZING. I can't understand why you don't have more viewers but I really wish you find success in your channel. Keep the videos coming and I'll keep watching them!
For people bitching about its hefty price tag: Yes it is expensive, but as Dave said, Razer is the first company to truly adopt "plug and play" style for external GPU with thunderbolt 3. Even though it is the first iteration of the product, they still deliver in terms of quality and promised functions, and all are 100% solid. So we can't really complain. If you "invent" something first in a specific market, it is common sense to charge a little higher. It is just business strategy. At least Razer did not disappoint in this Core right? If you can't buy it, then don't. It is that easy.
other people have tried it in both macbook and imac but the results are rather dissapointing for video editing. something eith pci bandwidth? they did not mention.
Dave, can you do a review on MSI GE72 2QD APACHE PRO please? im going to buy a laptop in 2 months but I'm confused to choose between ROG GL 752vw or this MSI... I'm the type of guy who hate laptop that leave a lot of smudges or fingerprint, if its only a little i can tolerate it.. so please Dave can you do a review about that MSI? because other reviewer is not as good as you are.. you care about smudges and fingerprint and really detailed about things.. tq Dave... *sorry if my english is bad im from Indonesia
Florist Kinda. The back of the screen and keyboard area is brushed aluminum, which is awesome. The rest is plastic and feels cheap. BUT it's still pretty solid. Overall it's not bad, it just doesn't "feel" premium. Then again, it's not priced premium either. I love my laptop. I just nit-pick about the plastic.
The mobility factor is nice. Excited to see what other brands will output. Razor has been on the forefront of what gamers want cheers to a successful year!
Thanks for the reply Dave! Have a bunch of people noting that TB3 is not a bottleneck, it may be 40gbps but even with nothing plugged in the Core there still is some inherit latency / overhead compared to the direct PCIe connection on the Amp.
500W power supply? why? the new video cards are consuming LESS power... I'd buy it if it was smaller making it possible to carry around, but a think this big makes it impossible to carry.
I see, but I still wish they would do something more compact for those of us who want some mobility, we have notebooks after all so I guess we want that... It would be a better deal then having to buy a US$ 2,500 notebook with a 980m.
Dude, this setup is actually the best u will get for gaming on the go as of now. Compare it to any other desktop or laptop setups out there in terms of portability and performance and you will see it doesn't get better than this, at least for the time being.
hazelbob Not true. I have a mini ITX computer and it's 3-4x smaller then this thing. It's got an integrated SLIM 500w power supply (Evga Hadron). I mean, if I can fit a whole computer in a case 3x smaller then that, why do they have to make such a gigantic thing just for a video card? it makes no sense to me.
Mark s Thing is my friend has desktop grade i3 6th gen with gtx 960. It throttles hard but when i have i5 4670k gtx 960 it doesn't throttle. I really doubt 15w laptop grade i7-6500u will be smoother than i3 6th gen desktop grade. I'm almost sure it will throttle on the CPU side.
Please, please keep your promise to update this series if / when other laptops are supported. I just bought a Dell XPS 9550 and was so hoping the Core would "just work". So to hear it doesn't at the moment is really sad. I would have gotten the Blade 14, but it doesn't appear to be available in Europe anytime soon.
i have a godly pc, and now a blade stealth.. its actually a good laptop. i dont play high end games anymore so i might just dump my heavy rig and grab the core
It's not for rich folk, its for stupid folk. Rich folk wouldn't spend money to be tied down to a 15w dual core laptop CPU and 8gb of ram, they'd build a beast PC.
Damn, I wish all hardware review videos were like this. Informative, giving only important information, no rubbish. Video quality as well as direction are great. And the voice is so soothing! Thumbs down were from people watching the video upside down :D
Zack Maxwell Exactly, I cant imagine its so that people with the blade stealth can game on the move bc obvs they cant. Your just spending $3k on an odd looking setup. Just buy a desktop and be done with it.
Zack Maxwell My point is even the best windows ultrabook you can find with similarly specs such as the XPS 13 costs $1,700. for around $400 extra you get the Stealth and a desktop gpu. it's a pretty good deal if you're the type of person who prefer to use 1 system that can do everything.
With the Core, you can keep on upgrading a GPU. You can get a laptop with 1080m in it, but you are stuck with it until you buy a new laptop. Have you not been paying attention to what people have been saying for years about gaming laptops?
Love the content you deliver Dave, keep up the good work. I've been subbed to your channel since the Dell Venue 8 7000 video. Glad to see your channel grow!
THANK YOU for including the Alienware 15..... I'm sooooo glad I went for it. I was under the impression the Blade + Core would be faster because of the bigger TB3 bandwidth, but apparently not. Looks like I won't be selling my AW 15r2. I also have the 30% faster 6820HK version.... Noice.
good stuff man. I was actually relying on you to make this follow up video to decide if I should spend my money on the razer stealth. In conclusion, I think i will buy the laptop just for its specs/price ratio. The fact that this gets 80-90% efficiency with the core is pretty good. I've been waiting for a setup like this for a while. My current laptop is almost 6 years old and I'm ready to upgrade.
Made the mistake of buying this. Just like everyone else, I have issues with the USB ports. They keep disconnecting. Only solution was to plug things directly into laptop with a dock.
thanks for this! and testing other laptops. I had almost bought an xps15 thinking I could use this but held off because I kept hearing that it may not work. I really hope other vendors get their eGPU story straight soon.
This is really useful. Thank you. I will get one of these at some point, but it seems like with the lack of maturity on the driver layer, and with Thunderbolt only currently being at the 3rd generation, it'll wait. It's a nice unit for sure, but I'm glad I didn't jump the gun and started building my dream desktop instead.
Thanks for the review Dave. Just to clarify a few points you touched on: The core essentially fails as a thunderbolt 3 based docking station when paired with the 2016 Blade? -Blade has to be plugged into it's power dongle -Bandwidth swamp and buggy performance of peripherals plugged into the core (external drives, mouse, keyboard, etc.) You can(not) extend the internal and external displays?
Let's hope that compatibility improves over time, and that other manufacturers start making that kind of enclosure. It's been a long time coming, but thanks to TB3 the external GPU might actualy become a thing.
Nice review man! I love your reviews, they're great. Truly good quality, very detail oriented and you cover a lot of good points on all of them. You deserve more views and subscribers!! Also, I wanted to ask a quick question, what monitor are you using these days?
Great review, seems like things need to mature a bit more, I'm hoping they get GPU efficiency up to 98-100% in the near future. These external gpu solutions aren't for everyone, but I can certainly see a few use case scenario's. I`ll be keeping an eye on developments on this front.
I have the acer predator 15 with a GTX 1060, if i got the razer core with a gtx 1080 for example, will i be getting only the gtx 1080, use the graphics cards seperately or get SLI?
Great review! I must say I was surprised to see the Alienware Graphics amplifier is actually currently outperforming the razor core by a small margin. Once this product was announced everybody was saying the performance would be just the opposite. Either way I'm very happy to see more solutions out on the market I personally travel with my laptop a lot and like to play my games on the go so naturally a gaming laptop is a great fit I love being able to just simply plug into a desktop great graphics card when I am back at home.
For people saying just build a PC, then by an Ultrabook. Building a good gaming rig with a good monitor would cost approx 800$. Then buying a separate Ultrabook (most cost more than the Razer core) would just make your setup even more costly. Then there is people who say use something like spashtop. That is nothing like using a graphics amplifier, spashtop is NOT for gaming it is for controlling your PC for media consumption.
Great review and overview, Dave! Always a pleasure to come here and watch your videos. But I gotta disagree with you on that last note: This device should not cost more than 250 EURO anywhere; i.e. 200 dollars in USA. It's an empty PCIE-slot box with a PSU. For 500 dollars I expect the device to ship with a GPU (perhaps a 960 or something). Not to be empty. Otherwise I loved this review. Keep it up, man!
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nice review, in conclusion it works, I want it but that price, and I'm also waiting for the 1070.
Awesome and well done video! Could you do a re-review? For example the Alienware's received firmware updates for the Thunderbolt chipsets in their laptops and the MSI GS40 seems to work now too? But there are no clear sources to see if they can use it reliably by now? Would love to ditch my desktop for a Razer core+laptop setup.
1) Ready to get a new laptop..
2) Being undecided for months..
3) Watch all his videos..
4) Ended up with a new desktop instead..
story of my life
If you are not traveling all the time, desktop is definitely the best choice!
Go with Desktop and maybe Windows tablet. Those half things aren´t worth the Money. For around 1800$ for Razer Blade + Core + rather low end GPU you get a 1300$ Highend Skylake Desktop with Monitor + Tablet for 500$
I guess you didn't really need a laptop. ;-) With Windows 8.1's and 10's ability to provide remote connections, desktops are much more functional, even when travelling.
You guys might wanna check this out: www.asus.com/Microsite/rog/GR8_G20/
People are acting like they know everything when they say just build a desktop instead of getting that setup.
The reason why this setup was developed was to expand the flexibility and mobility of PCs. With a Razer laptop, the Razer Core, and possibly second monitor, keyboard, and other peripherals, you can do what desktops cannot. You can disconnect the laptop and use it for trips or for school. When you return home you can connect it to the core and play with similar performance to a desktop setup.
This product wasn't designed to be a desktop replacement, but for convenience.
Only problem with the Stealth is the dual core. The video shows that it can limit the GPU
So goddamn agreed with you, Eman C. Those people should really GTFO.
THANK YOU! I can see what people are saying by it being cheaper but the convenience of having a laptop that can become a desktop just outweighs it for some people imo. Different needs for different people :)
I'm due for a new laptop next year. The possibility of a laptop that can run an external GPU excites me, but the cost of the Razer Core is really the major roadblock for mobile PC gamers. If the Razer Core is $400 plus an additional ~$300 for the GPU, you can almost build an entire desktop PC for the same price. So you can have both a slim laptop for work/travel AND an entirely independent gaming PC at home for just a little more. $400 for this technology is ridiculous, and hopefully there will be competition from other companies in the near future to drive the price down.
I do agree but we have to account that razer has "razer tax" ( they just price their products ridiculously high compared to most other company's would). There are the akitio brand who've been making eGPU like products for years (people who game on Macbooks tend to buy eGPU's from these guys). There's the coolermaster one and the asus external GPU. Hopefully the amount of competition will drive the price down but I think at the least, we'll be paying around $200 for an eGPU
Life becomes better when a new Dave Lee video arrives
Amen
triple Amen
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If your life is watching YT reviews because you're broke AF, then yes.
Everything on your show is so clean and pristine
Fantastic work Dave!
=) thanks dude
+Dave Lee razer core is not the first company to do this bizon has been doing egpu for years
+francis joseph akitio too
never said it was. i've been using a bizon for a while. it's terrible.
i said they're the first people to do a TB3 one.
+Dave Lee kk
I hate being poor :/
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try to work...
it's good !!
+joe symptons yeah already at it...it's a slow process
Just work hard and have a good investment my asus zenbook pro ux501 was a good one and im loving my laptop
The same thought. I am still thinking, what will be less expensive, this razer core stuff with let us say gtx1070 or some MSI GT72S with 1070 when it is released?
Always a pleasure watching your content Dave.
Great review. I've been waiting to check one of these out.
Shoutout to Dell,
Pleeaaaaaase make this thing works for XPS 15!!!
I don't understand how you don't have more subscribers. Such a clean video and awesome details!
Please update when it starts working with the Dell XPS 13 because *that's* when I'm gonna buy one
737215 same lol
XPS 15 + Razer Core = my dream mobile setup.
great video dave! question, what was the first game shown??
Man these videos are really important for some people. I am looking for an egpu setup and you are the only youtuber with quality laptop/egpu content.
Great work. Keep them coming. You are doing the gods work.
Came for the Alienware comparison; not disappointed.
PS, the AW graphics amp is $199 new, or refurbished you can find them $100-175.
Holy cow! I subscribed at 160,000 which seems like just a few days ago and now you've hit 180,000! Congratulations Dave!
glad that u tested the core with other laptop and mentioned the instability. linus review of the same core is misleading as he mention it is working with other laptop. I believe he just tested initial connectivity and no further testing
Could you make a more elaborate video about the compatibility with Notebooks from other manufacturers?
There are some rules you have to follow when trying to connect these though.
- Update all drivers and especially the BIOS / TB3 Firmware for the Notebook
- Properly wipe the NVidia drivers ( there are special tools for this )
- Try the latest NVidia driver and the one from the Razer Homepage ( wipe between them )
- Full up to date Razer Synapse ( important for the Core itself )
- disable ( in the device manager ) the dedicated GPU if it has one.
It would be super appreciated because you actually have all those notebooks to test it with!
Dave videos prove quality matters, quantity doesn't.
Thanks for testing other Laptops as well!I was extremely interested in AW15 compatibility and it's nice to see that it's working already, so I'm eager to see other Thunderbolt 3 GPU housings coming!
Omg waited so long!!
Awesome review Dave! I bought the 15" XPS earlier this year and the potential for this to be my future setup has me excited. I'm pleased that it already half-works on the XPS series. I was honestly expecting it to not work at all this early on.
Now finger crossed that Microsoft will put thunderbolt 3 in the surface pro 5 next year 😬
Hey Dave your video reviews are AMAZING.
I can't understand why you don't have more viewers but I really wish you find success in your channel. Keep the videos coming and I'll keep watching them!
Dave Lee thank you so much for using centigrade instead of Fahrenheit!
For people bitching about its hefty price tag:
Yes it is expensive, but as Dave said, Razer is the first company to truly adopt "plug and play" style for external GPU with thunderbolt 3. Even though it is the first iteration of the product, they still deliver in terms of quality and promised functions, and all are 100% solid.
So we can't really complain. If you "invent" something first in a specific market, it is common sense to charge a little higher. It is just business strategy. At least Razer did not disappoint in this Core right?
If you can't buy it, then don't. It is that easy.
Hey can u try using the core with the 2016 new MacBook Pro because it has thunderbolt 3 ports? I want to see if it is possible.
EarvinC nope
IXxBossxXI I'm curious too, have you tried it?
Triple259772 I've seen videos of people trying it and confirming it doesn't work. It doesn't support macs
EarvinC Apple has blocked a Texas Instruments Controller necessary for the core and other things like a raid hard drive bank, etc
other people have tried it in both macbook and imac but the results are rather dissapointing for video editing. something eith pci bandwidth? they did not mention.
Bruh how have u not broken a million subs yet, your videos are so quality
Can you review the NUC Skull Canyon?It's very intresting.
I second this !
Always such a treat whenever I watch your videos man. Everything is so easy to listen to
This thing costs more than the GPU I own (970)
The background track had a Nujabes vibe to it, great review as always!
It's been nice.
You deserve an infinite amount of subscribers you deliver your reviews with your own style and presentation. Overall you're amazing!
Core is $500 and 1080 is $600. No thanks, I'll just upgrade my current desktop.
Catered towards ultrabooks.
chataolauj I have the blade 14inch but I couldn't bring myself to spend $500 on just the gpu case.
Don't get the 1080, get the 1070. The 1080 will most likely bottleneck over TB3.
+Joker _ this is for people who want a mobile desktop-class system
***** name something that can perform like a gaming desktop that is more mobile than the Blade + Core combo.
Thanks for your video! I was super curious about how this worked and you answered all the questions! You're awesome man
Dave, can you do a review on MSI GE72 2QD APACHE PRO please? im going to buy a laptop in 2 months but I'm confused to choose between ROG GL 752vw or this MSI... I'm the type of guy who hate laptop that leave a lot of smudges or fingerprint, if its only a little i can tolerate it..
so please Dave can you do a review about that MSI? because other reviewer is not as good as you are.. you care about smudges and fingerprint and really detailed about things..
tq Dave...
*sorry if my english is bad im from Indonesia
I've got the GE62 and absolutely love it.
get the 15" one.. 17" its just too big.. and if it has an alumminium body there wont be any problems with fingerprints..
+OVR but they say 17" screen RGB accuracy is better.. because im going to do a lot of graphic related stuff
+Jween Tech they said that msi have a poor build quality.. is it true sir?
Florist
Kinda. The back of the screen and keyboard area is brushed aluminum, which is awesome. The rest is plastic and feels cheap. BUT it's still pretty solid. Overall it's not bad, it just doesn't "feel" premium. Then again, it's not priced premium either.
I love my laptop. I just nit-pick about the plastic.
The mobility factor is nice. Excited to see what other brands will output. Razor has been on the forefront of what gamers want cheers to a successful year!
+David Lee could you do a benchmark of possibly a real world game between the two (Amp and Core). Thanks!
Everything else equal, Amp always gets slightly better frame rates. Around 4-6% better
Thanks for the reply Dave! Have a bunch of people noting that TB3 is not a bottleneck, it may be 40gbps but even with nothing plugged in the Core there still is some inherit latency / overhead compared to the direct PCIe connection on the Amp.
+Dave Lee Hi, Sorry for asking but I didn't quite get which type of connection accurred between the laptop and the the razer core. Was it USB?
Raidus It's Thunderbolt 3 which is delivered over a USB-C connector type.
+Raidus Thunder bolt 3 which is used in systems such as XPS 13/15, new razer and a few other systems.
Love your videos man. Hope your channel keeps growing like it deserves.
Think it will work with the HTC vive?
This review has literally everything that I needed to know about the Razer Core. Phenomenal job!
500W power supply? why? the new video cards are consuming LESS power... I'd buy it if it was smaller making it possible to carry around, but a think this big makes it impossible to carry.
because the power supply has to power the video card and the laptop itself in some cases (like the razer blade stealth)
I see, but I still wish they would do something more compact for those of us who want some mobility, we have notebooks after all so I guess we want that... It would be a better deal then having to buy a US$ 2,500 notebook with a 980m.
Dude, this setup is actually the best u will get for gaming on the go as of now. Compare it to any other desktop or laptop setups out there in terms of portability and performance and you will see it doesn't get better than this, at least for the time being.
hazelbob Not true. I have a mini ITX computer and it's 3-4x smaller then this thing. It's got an integrated SLIM 500w power supply (Evga Hadron). I mean, if I can fit a whole computer in a case 3x smaller then that, why do they have to make such a gigantic thing just for a video card? it makes no sense to me.
I have a Hadron case. The Core (7.7 Litres) is smaller than the EVGA hadron (11 Litres).
Thanks a lot for making such a detailed yet still so refined review of the core !!! Keep up the work would love to see more.
Cheers !!!
hey Dave, whats the name of your intro music
tyler touché - act of god
ft. Jason Gaffner
(robotaki remix)
thanks bro
Second video of yours I've seen now, Dave. I really like the style, pace and info provided. Earned yourself a sub, my friend. Keep it up.
can you test real games like GTA 5 on Razer Blade Stealth? and compare it to 6700k performance. I think 6500u throttle too hard.
Real games like GTA 5? Really? That's console-grade bullshit.
+UrTwiN stfu
pc version is certainly not console grade bullshit.
+Eddie Ed gta really isnt that over demanding if i can run the games he benchmarked it should have no problem
Mark s Thing is my friend has desktop grade i3 6th gen with gtx 960. It throttles hard but when i have i5 4670k gtx 960 it doesn't throttle. I really doubt 15w laptop grade i7-6500u will be smoother than i3 6th gen desktop grade. I'm almost sure it will throttle on the CPU side.
Thanks for the video! You are always the quickest and sincere one among high-quality tech channels!
When are the laptops getting the new pascal architecture gpu's??
Wondering this too but I'm guessing not until a few months..
+DankScope 420 because im dying to buy a laptop. But i guess i'll wait for a few months
I know that feel. I'm in the exact same position
my guess is that we'll see some pop up in the fall? maybe winter?
+Dave Lee it seems that buying a laptop now would be a waste. But the real question is how much more improvement would it be?
Please, please keep your promise to update this series if / when other laptops are supported. I just bought a Dell XPS 9550 and was so hoping the Core would "just work". So to hear it doesn't at the moment is really sad. I would have gotten the Blade 14, but it doesn't appear to be available in Europe anytime soon.
With 500$ you can buy the rest of the pc...
this is for rich folk
More like buy a graphics card to actually run the core.
Ralph Fonz I know some rich folks, they get a godly desktop gaming pc and some 15 inch maxed out macbook pro
i have a godly pc, and now a blade stealth.. its actually a good laptop. i dont play high end games anymore so i might just dump my heavy rig and grab the core
It's not for rich folk, its for stupid folk.
Rich folk wouldn't spend money to be tied down to a 15w dual core laptop CPU and 8gb of ram, they'd build a beast PC.
This is a really cool invention. I love it. It kinda pushes the idea of having only a Lappy and still be able to have a proper home pc setup.
Love it.
Conclusion: Already works great, but better wait for the Core 2 with Thunderbolt 4 with at least double the bandwith.
probably another one or two year ~
I agree. I think Intel with show TB4 next year.
Looking at the release cycle a new thunderbolt gen drops every 3 years and this is the first product so you'll be waiting till ... 2019
argh... another long wait... waited long enough for the pascal gpu cards, ddr4 ram, arrival of VR headsets +_+
I'm definetely getting a pascal GPU, waiting for the Titan P or 1080Ti. As for the core, waiting for notebooks with mobile pascal GPUs.
Damn, I wish all hardware review videos were like this. Informative, giving only important information, no rubbish. Video quality as well as direction are great. And the voice is so soothing! Thumbs down were from people watching the video upside down :D
I bought 5 and pluged them all into my PC, it later exploded killing my wife and kid.
If been waiting for this review for so long... Thx dave!
So $500 for the core, $600 for the 1080, $2000 for a laptop that works with it. Why not just spend that money on a desktop?
Zack Maxwell Exactly, I cant imagine its so that people with the blade stealth can game on the move bc obvs they cant. Your just spending $3k on an odd looking setup. Just buy a desktop and be done with it.
$1000 for the laptop.
so it's $2100 for the whole setup, it's cheaper than the 15 inch macbook pro and can game better than it.
Zack Maxwell My point is even the best windows ultrabook you can find with similarly specs such as the XPS 13 costs $1,700. for around $400 extra you get the Stealth and a desktop gpu.
it's a pretty good deal if you're the type of person who prefer to use 1 system that can do everything.
and by everything i mean a powerful mobile ultrabook and a decent gaming rig at home. not all people need all max settings.
With the Core, you can keep on upgrading a GPU. You can get a laptop with 1080m in it, but you are stuck with it until you buy a new laptop. Have you not been paying attention to what people have been saying for years about gaming laptops?
Love the content you deliver Dave, keep up the good work. I've been subbed to your channel since the Dell Venue 8 7000 video. Glad to see your channel grow!
I've been waiting for this video, good work man!
THANK YOU for including the Alienware 15..... I'm sooooo glad I went for it. I was under the impression the Blade + Core would be faster because of the bigger TB3 bandwidth, but apparently not. Looks like I won't be selling my AW 15r2. I also have the 30% faster 6820HK version.... Noice.
+ Andrew Ryan, I agree you don't waste time at all and your videos are to the point. we get to know about the product well. Keep it up!!
good stuff man. I was actually relying on you to make this follow up video to decide if I should spend my money on the razer stealth. In conclusion, I think i will buy the laptop just for its specs/price ratio. The fact that this gets 80-90% efficiency with the core is pretty good. I've been waiting for a setup like this for a while. My current laptop is almost 6 years old and I'm ready to upgrade.
I was waiting for this. Thank you for the review.
Made the mistake of buying this. Just like everyone else, I have issues with the USB ports. They keep disconnecting. Only solution was to plug things directly into laptop with a dock.
20 years from now....presenting Dbrand skins for skins... You feel white turn black , yellow or brown!
Just wish you could use it on any laptop.
Keep the reviews coming....your doing a great job.
Awesome! Expecially the fact you actually tried the razer core with non supported laptops.
High quality vid, you deserve more subs bro
Quality reviews as expected, nice job Mr. Lee
i was waiting for this review.. really loved the video specially when you added the AW 15 comparison as well.. thumbs up and sub+ as well.....
thanks for this! and testing other laptops. I had almost bought an xps15 thinking I could use this but held off because I kept hearing that it may not work. I really hope other vendors get their eGPU story straight soon.
Great review! You went perfectly in depth as always. Keep it up.
Pretty surprised with the Stealth. Great video!
This is really useful. Thank you. I will get one of these at some point, but it seems like with the lack of maturity on the driver layer, and with Thunderbolt only currently being at the 3rd generation, it'll wait. It's a nice unit for sure, but I'm glad I didn't jump the gun and started building my dream desktop instead.
Just picked up the Alienware Amplifier for $190 CAD off ebay. Glad I watched this video showing it's the best external gpu option out right now.
we have been waiting for this dave
Thanks for the review Dave.
Just to clarify a few points you touched on:
The core essentially fails as a thunderbolt 3 based docking station when paired with the 2016 Blade?
-Blade has to be plugged into it's power dongle
-Bandwidth swamp and buggy performance of peripherals plugged into the core (external drives, mouse, keyboard, etc.)
You can(not) extend the internal and external displays?
I like your reviews! Professional without geek bullsh!t, wonderful job man! Thanks a lot!
I love these reviews keep it up David!
Damn your graphics for the graphs are amazing
OK Dave! Thanks for ur video! I finally have a mind that buying that core. waiting for next batch. Anyway thanks!
Let's hope that compatibility improves over time, and that other manufacturers start making that kind of enclosure. It's been a long time coming, but thanks to TB3 the external GPU might actualy become a thing.
Nice review man! I love your reviews, they're great. Truly good quality, very detail oriented and you cover a lot of good points on all of them. You deserve more views and subscribers!!
Also, I wanted to ask a quick question, what monitor are you using these days?
Great review, seems like things need to mature a bit more, I'm hoping they get GPU efficiency up to 98-100% in the near future.
These external gpu solutions aren't for everyone, but I can certainly see a few use case scenario's. I`ll be keeping an eye on developments on this front.
ayeeee been waiting on this vid
I have the acer predator 15 with a GTX 1060, if i got the razer core with a gtx 1080 for example, will i be getting only the gtx 1080, use the graphics cards seperately or get SLI?
Great review! I must say I was surprised to see the Alienware Graphics amplifier is actually currently outperforming the razor core by a small margin. Once this product was announced everybody was saying the performance would be just the opposite. Either way I'm very happy to see more solutions out on the market I personally travel with my laptop a lot and like to play my games on the go so naturally a gaming laptop is a great fit I love being able to just simply plug into a desktop great graphics card when I am back at home.
Great channel, It has a very friendly and professional vibe to it. Keep it up!
For people saying just build a PC, then by an Ultrabook. Building a good gaming rig with a good monitor would cost approx 800$. Then buying a separate Ultrabook (most cost more than the Razer core) would just make your setup even more costly. Then there is people who say use something like spashtop. That is nothing like using a graphics amplifier, spashtop is NOT for gaming it is for controlling your PC for media consumption.
Thanks for an awesome review. Obviously was a ton of work, but will now doubt be helpful to a lot of people. Kudos.
Damn what a fantastic review....i think you're one of the first to do it
Wtf TH-cam, why recommend this 3 years later??????
Great review and overview, Dave! Always a pleasure to come here and watch your videos.
But I gotta disagree with you on that last note: This device should not cost more than 250 EURO anywhere; i.e. 200 dollars in USA. It's an empty PCIE-slot box with a PSU. For 500 dollars I expect the device to ship with a GPU (perhaps a 960 or something). Not to be empty.
Otherwise I loved this review. Keep it up, man!
nice review, in conclusion it works, I want it but that price, and I'm also waiting for the 1070.
Been waiting for this. thx dude
your review is awesome man! very informative! Good job!
I really love your channel! So Zen and informative! Thank You brother!
Awesome and well done video! Could you do a re-review? For example the Alienware's received firmware updates for the Thunderbolt chipsets in their laptops and the MSI GS40 seems to work now too? But there are no clear sources to see if they can use it reliably by now? Would love to ditch my desktop for a Razer core+laptop setup.
fascinating this thunderbolt 3 experiments