Yes it is one of the scariest lines. Especially in the context of: “Your money is no good here. Orders from the house. Drink up, Mr. Torrance. I’m the kind of man who likes to know who’s buying their drinks, Lloyd. It’s not a matter that concerns you, Mr. Torrance. _At least, not at the moment.”_
This is the key scene in the whole film. Everything else can be explained as Jack's insane hallucinations, but who unlocks the pantry door? it adds so much to the film.
+Daisy Chain Bad things happened at that hotel. People were murdered. Delbert Grady murdered his wife and two daughters. The Ghost of Delbert Grady haunted that hotel. It got control of Jacks mind. It possessed him and got him to try and murder his own family like Delbert did. The ghost let him out of the pantry.
+degree7 Yes, I guess that could explain opening the main locking mechanism of the door, but it still doesn't explain the safety lock pin that Wendy also used to double lock the door. She BOTH locks the door with the main locking mechanism AND puts the safety pin, it is clearly visible in the scene where she locks the door. And there is no way to remove the safety pin from the inside. For a long time, I thought that the only logical explanation for Jack's escape is that the axe he used was somewhere inside the room with him off camera, which allowed him to break down the door and escape. But recently I noticed that a little later there is a very short amount of time, about a second where Jack passes the same room and the opened door again around the time he kills Halloran, and it is shown that the door was opened cleanly and there was no damage to the door like it was opened by force. That is the power of The Shining - its mystery and the fact that no one really knows what the hell is happening in that movie. It leads you to believe that the "ghosts" are only in the characters' imaginations and that it is all psychological, but then there is this scene with the door that can't be explained using that logic. And this blend of psychological and super natural is what makes this film the greatest horror film ever IMO and one of the greatest films of all time period. If it was merely 100% psychological or 100% super natural, then it wouldn't be nowhere near as powerful or as discussed almost 40 years after it was made.
Jack unlocks it via Grady, one of his split personalities. The side of the pantry door is metal and reflective mirror like so he thinks Grady unlocks it for him but it's really Jack unlocking his Shining abilities
I like how Jack wakes up and calls for Wendy like he's gained his sanity back but when grady is the one who answers he seems to slip right back into insanity
@@carldietz7349 Yes, it was. This is a ghost movie. It has always been a ghost movie. The source material is a ghost novel. Gadzooks. When did this pseudo-intellectual "it's all an illusion in Jack's psycho-mind!!!" trend start? BLEH.
According to Kubrick in an interview, the moment Grady lets Jack out is when the audience is supposed to understand that supernatural elements are at work here. He also mentions a story where a paranoid poker player accuses someone of cheating, and in the end you find out they really were cheating, and he used that concept in The Shining. Just because Jack's going crazy doesn't mean nothing supernatural is happening.
He doesn't go mad in the way of "hallucinating things and hearing voices", but rather in the form of becoming "evil" because the hotel possesses him. The things he sees are real (obviously), since they are ghosts.
People sometimes forget that the shining is a movie with supernatural things, they want to teorize that "everything is an illusion, it's all metaphorical", but ghosts do exist in "the shining" universe, whether fans want it or not
The door opening by itself is quite a revealing scene in the movie which finally tells us that Jack was not hallucinating and was in fact being recruited by hotel's demons all along.
I've always believed Jack wasn't recruited willingly but was possessed somewhat because he was already vulnerable due to anger issues and alcoholism. The hotel couldn't get his wife because she has a strong will or the kid for obvious reasons.
@@MrFunkhauser he said he would give his soul for a drink and the house which is the hotel itself gave him that with no need for money he already payed with his soul
Im someone who believes that jack was connected to the hotel all along and that he shined just like Danny and was crazy from the very start. This film is completly symbolical and nothing is supposed to "make sense", thats why there are so many different interpretations. Kubrick is a Genius.
Keeping hydrated would be a problem. Didn't see any bottles of water in there or other beverages. Just stuff like syrup and pickle juice. Doubt he'd last for very long.
When we first meet Grady he is a servant and very deferential to Jack. But gradually the tables are turned and Grady becomes the boss whom Jack is eager to please.
Actually, the table seemed to turn quite suddenly in the middle of the discussion between Jack and Grady in the red bathroom in the ballroom. At first Grady was very polite and deferential and apologetic to Jack. But then in the middle of their discussion, soon after Jack tells Grady that he recognizes him as the previous caretaker, the table turns quite quickly. Soon Grady is telling Jack that - if he may be so bold as to say so - that Jack's son is a very 'naughty' boy who needs to be "corrected". Grady, who was previously polite and proper, even uses the vulgar "n-word" to describe the person who Jack's son is communicating with. It's a startling change in the relationship between Grady, who has unmasked himself as a vulgar, crude, and dominating person, and Jack. By the time that we're at this freezer scene in the movie, Grady's position of superiority and authority over Jack is complete. Jack is under his control.
@@samuelweir5985 Exactly. To me Philip Stone might be the best actor I've seen in a horror movie. His face turns to - haha - stone in that scene you described. Very nightmarish indeed.
The incredible acting on display here yet again. Grady sounds nothing like he did in the bathroom scene before. He now sounds unmerciful, demonic and calculating trying to get inside Jacks head. I love it
Bingo. That is not quite the Grady we heard earlier in the movie. And that has bothered me...not to distraction but just enough...every time I viewed this movie. Perhaps the "others" who the now-unseen and reverberating Grady mentions purposely try to sound like him as all work their way into Torrance.
No, it's a traditional English word of honor. Grady is a gentleman and from a time in England. This means that when someone has officially given their word they NEVER go back on it. To do so would be a disgrace. A gentleman's agreement over murder is quite ironic though.
The hotel releases Jack. The hotel is the monster and it wants Danny. The hotel tricks Jack into believing Wendy and Danny are against him. All the ghosts you see in The Shining exist because of the hotels power. In the book, the hotel is characterized as the bad guy, not the ghosts or even Jack.
I don't think the Hotel wants Danny in the movie. He's merely a catalyst for making them stronger than usual(so that they can appear to Jack). They just want to absorb yet another family here, business as usual.
James Lawson That is what's in the book, but the book may not be relevant just on account of how much Kubrick changed for the movie--it's a very different story, and with very different meanings.
i never understood how perishable items would last from October till May. Btw, I love the sound of the wind howling all through hotel. It shows how isolated the family is.
Most of that stuff is either dry or canned goods which have a longer shelf life. I think the bags he's laying on are full of rice. But yes, quite a bit of inventory for being idle for half a year.
He's not in a refrigerated storage locker, it's the dry goods locker. Although they would have some milk and eggs for their own use as they obviously couldn't just run down to the corner store...
"Who unlocks the door?" The hotel did. As Mr. Hallorann said, some places shine like people. Jack literally sold his soul for a drink and the hotel did the rest. Once he made that connection and once he went into Room 237, the hotel became "alive."
When jack said he'd sell his soul right after that Lloyd pops up like the devil because he IS the devil just look at him he's wearing red he never blinks his ears are kinda pointy!
Serbian Space Marines if Shelley would have brought Danny down to speak to him the tiny flicker of humanity he had left might have meant he would not have become a total psycho. he did not want to be left in a fucking pantry within a fucking hotel all by himself for 10 hours while Shelley gets a doctor. she wouldn't even let him speak to his son.
I love this film but It's hard to understand some of what is going on. The place is just full-on haunted is all I can figure. Not a silly or fun kind-of haunted, but full-on hateful, evil haunted. Time for Hollywood to make more horror films like this.
yu stu How Stephen King can continously criticize This movie is beyond me. Its a masterpiece of Horror. I think King is jealous because the movie is more famous than his book
I think part of his issue was that the movie didn't accurately reflect the book. Too many changes. And he didn't like the casting. Jack Torrence was supposed to start out relatively normal and slowly go insane, but Nicholson started off by portraying him as a man on the edge.
William Kilberry If King wants to appreciate THIS movie, all he need do is watch HIS version, the 1997 mini series. As to whether he will , I quote Delbert Grady, "I have my doubts."
*I always thought that this scene could have been made even more scary if when Grady asks; ‘You give your word?’, Jack just nods and doesn’t say anything. Then Grady would say ‘Very well’. That way it would tell us that the house and ghosts are watching him the whole time, even in a confined pantry*
Even short clips like this of 'The Shining' I can watch repeatedly. I love Kubrick's use of the slow-zoom and tracking shot in this bit, and his compositions throughout the whole film (emphasizing how small the characters are inside and outside the hotel) really suck you into this nightmare-world.
Yes, his use of camera placement and tracking was indeed his craft. I love the bathroom scene with Mr. Grady too. Let's not forget his use of sound...or LACK of it.! Most movies are littered with back to back dialogue, but Stanley skillfully uses the silent moments to reel you into the story, and it works wonders for this film. Also his use of silence in '2001 A Space Odyssey' is even more powerful.
@@canadude6401 Kubric himself was going more paranoid in his later years living in a fortified compound in England', and not trusting outsiders. Revealed by the writer of '' Eyes Wide Shut '' .
Grady mentioned "others" in this scene; Lloyd, Derwent, Mrs. Massey (237), the "bear" man, the Grady twins, the "manager", the hotel's own character and not seen but mentioned; Grady's wife possibly. The bulk of the Overlook's spirit manifestations. Equally eerie is the constant howling winds outside the hotel throughout the film.
In my weird up-bringing when I was 12 or so, I had initially thought the elevators were hydraulic and leaking Dexron transmission fluid which has a dark red color when new.
The Simpsons Halloween parody of this is so funny, Homer: "Can't kill now, I'm eating" Moe: "Oh for heavens sakes!" Suddenly a whole group of monsters takes Homer and pulls him out of the pantry.
*Homer is axing through a door* "Heeeeeeeeere's Johnny!!!" *pans out to empty room* "D'oh!" *Homer is axing through yet another door* "Daaaaaaavid Lettermaaaaan!!" *pans out to Abe* "Hai David, I'm Grandpa!!!" *D'OH!'*
Good lord, this movie. Every second is like cold witchy fingers scraping down your spine.....There has rarely been a movie like it and I doubt in this dum-dum generation of high speed all action, there ever will be. The Shining was, is, and will forever be truly a standalone film.
I whole heartedly agree with you. I first watched it in 1985 I was a young teenager and to this day, 35 years later no other horror film gets "into my mind" like The Shining. I have watched it over 15 times. A true psychological horror movie. I am so happy that Stanley was able to realize the impact the movie made before he passed.
3:08 You can hear the door being unlocked by someone, presumably Delbert Grady. This was right after Jack give Grady his word that he would deal with his wife and son.
"Uh, look, some of the ghouls and I are a little concerned that the project isn't moving forward." "Can't murder now, eating." "Oh for crying out loud." [A whole bunch of movie monsters come in and drag him outside] "Noooooo!"
Also the additional T, S fit perfectly. Wow, Three times plus all the timely fits towards the conclusion The movie enhanced a lasting impression upon a individuals mindset. Amidst their own individual mental health and state of mind. It's extremely unforgettable. Thanks again though I was done until I checked out another part. Then I was in my own individual personal role. WOW, WOW, WOW. THANKS 👍🙏💖
Why you can hear the howling winds in a hermetically sealed pantry is a mystery, unless it suggests the presence of another door that Jack might escape via.
I laugh at all the comments here trying to explain away the door opening from Jack hallucinating being put into the pantry and doing it by telekinesis. Clearly these people never read 'The Shining' and are confused by Kubrick's adaptation. As they should be, considering that Kubrick took a ghost story about a hotel wanting Danny's power and made it out to be an alcoholic suffering from cabin fever and having a mental breakdown. The ghosts of The Overlook are behind everything and Jack is a pawn who in his weakness gets taken over by the ghosts to get to Danny.
There is something so creepy about being alone in the depths of a hotel pantry with no one around you talking to yourself. It’s so material and manila, makes me shiver.
Why would it keep him trapped when he is now completely under its control? He sold his soul to the Hotel, but he's not dead yet so he can leave it. And the Hotel *needs* him to be alive so he can be free to kill Wendy and Danny without any restrictions because the ghosts are indeed restricted in what they can do to Wendy and Danny. What it didn't count on was Wendy and Danny actually surviving and outsmarting him and they're able to escape the boundaries of the Hotel's power. And with Jack trapped in the Hedge Maze, *outside* of the reach of the other ghosts, there's nothing the Hotel can do, expect claim Jack's soul and give him the role of Lloyd since that's the ghost that Jack surrendered his soul to. That is where Jack is truly trapped, not in a pantry, but in a bar.
Anyone notice what looks like a 40 oz beer open when jack wakes up? Remember that ullman said they had taken the alcohol out of the hotel? I wonder if Jack found some
Moe-Homer it's Moe, ah look some of the ghouls and I are thinking the project is not going according to plan. Homer- Can't murder now, eating. Moe- Ah for crying out loud.
I see this scene as one of the best in the film. Like much of Stanley Kubrick’s work, it seems to be kept vague, which makes it even more interesting, I’ve never read the book, so I don’t know if this line up with any information provided there, but I see the hotel as the antagonist of the film, not Jack. The ghosts, such as Delbert Grady and the bartender, Lloyd, are merely tools of the hotel’s will. With the case of Mr. Grady, it seems once the hotel has made the current residents go insane, (or possibly if you’re murdered on the property in the case of Grady’s wife and daughters) that the hotel traps you and you become part of its collection of tools that the hotel will use to consume the next victims. I don’t think the ghosts are acting independently and opening up the door for Jack in this scene. I think that the ghosts are literally puppets of the hotel and that they’re a way for the hotel to communicate on a verbal level with a few of its select victims. Obviously, the hotel can’t talk, so it uses the spirits of its previous victims it has at its disposal. Mr. Grady isn’t opening the door, the hotel is. The hotel’s endgame is to consume more victims, by whatever means necessary. Obviously, with the case of Mr. Grady and Jack, the easiest method to achieve this is to drive the biggest and strongest member of the group to insanity and do the dirty work of disposing of the others. I’m sure there are many other cases of the hotel consuming its victims before Grady and Jack that we never hear of. I doubt it uses the same strategy to trap its victims each time, but it will go to frightening lengths to do so. The hotel fails to trap and consume Danny and Wendy, but it seems to be content enough to just have Jack. The final scene in which the picture is shown of Jack at the July 4th Ball in 1921 signifies to me that once the hotel consumes you, you will always be a part of it....and always have been.
Great analysis. Also we know that in the case of at least Jack, booze is the method. Overlook is built on an Indian burial ground, disturbing the spirits of those there - and booze was used to subdue native americans and first nations as it has been used to corrupt and control many indigenous populations (e.g. Irish, where I'm from). But it's not saying booze itself is bad - and it isn't - it's just another tool for control because it makes people act at a lower mental level. I know people read way too much into this movie (as Room 237 showed, even though it's a fascinating watch) but I really do sympathize with those who interpret this movie as a comment on the process of imperial colonialism and what it does to those doing the colonizing as much as the victims.
Stanley Kubrick must really have liked the Grady character, since everything he says in the movie is taken almost entirely from the book, practically word-for-word.
Maybe this isn't part of the idea, but jack became so obsessed with succeeding at this job, as caretaker, that when aggravated, he is pushed to please his new boss, Grady, for the job or killing his family, in pursuit of caretaking the hotel. A mark of insanity for sure.
One of the scariest scenes in the movie, because how can this be explained? Either there are real, tangible ghosts lurking about, or the hotel itself is some kind of living, functioning embodiment of evil.
In the book, he is eating cookies while locked in the pantry. Not because he is especially hungry but he needs the energy. He plans to engage in mayhem when he gets out.
I find it unsettling that you can hear the storm howl within the pantry..something I hadn't noticed until just recently and I've watched / listened to this film NUMEROUS times 🤔
Theres far more to this film then just jack talking to "hallucinations". Clearly there were always supernatural elements to this from so many other parts. Im not sure why people are surprised by it.
You can actually give Trevor a very similar haircut and buy the jacket that Jack is wearing in the movie it’s actually called the ‘Overlooked’ jacket, the hotel is called The Overlook hotel
There's an opened jar of peanuts next to Jack along with other types of snacks. This kinda makes me laugh thinking he had something to eat while in this insane mindset then went to sleep haha
The only time during this film that I felt scared but when that door opened. I got chills. You realize in this moment the level of evil we’re dealing with.
Seriously though a job well done on the acting by the oreos, kool aid, tang, heinz ketchup................................................AND the nilla wafers. All of their performances were second to none!!!!! They were Kubrick's unsung heroes because even when they weren't shown, they were still there the whole time, sitting in the same spot and doing exactly what they were supposed to do.
I think Danny unlocked it while he was asleep. Jack heard Mr Grady in his head and imagined the door being unlocked which when he physically tried the door it opened. The scene following this is Danny in a catatonic state repeating redrum over and over meaning that Danny knew what was going to happen directly because he knew the door was now open and that his father was coming for them both.
How do you explain Wendy seeing the ghosts, Halloran having the shining, he and Danny communicating in their thoughts, Jack picking up and drinking the bourbon and the picture in 1921?
Will you indeed, Mr Torrence? I wonder. I have my doubts. I, and the others, have come to believe that your heart is not in this. That you haven't the belly for it.
J'en reviens pas de ce film là, quand j'étais jeune j'ai écouté sa sur l'acide tellement c'est un chef d'oeuvre. L'acteur principal est je crois le meilleur acteur que la terre a porté. Analyser les scènes, le moindre petit détail est très important pour ce rendre compte que cette acteur la est unique. Je crois que c'est mon préféré. Aujourd'hui des films comme ça il ne s'en fait plus malheureusement. Quand on écoutait pour la première fois dans le temps, sa rentrait dedans en SVP.
Second only to the final scene when the camera focuses in on the photograph on the wall with Torrence in the middle from 1921, for plot impact. This one scene proves the ghosts are not imaginary. Danny of course has the encounter with the twins and the lady in 237.
I think something Kubrick needs to work on is his perfection "Level", poor Shelly Duvale and Jack Nicholson LITERALLY went insane making this movie lol
"I and others" is probably the scariest line in the film.
Tres Nueve True!
Like the rest of the people in the picture in the last scene were victims of The Shining waiting for Jack to do the same as they once did
It could be!!!
Yes it is one of the scariest lines. Especially in the context of:
“Your money is no good here. Orders from the house. Drink up, Mr. Torrance.
I’m the kind of man who likes to know who’s buying their drinks, Lloyd.
It’s not a matter that concerns you, Mr. Torrance. _At least, not at the moment.”_
I think it’s this th-cam.com/video/xrdORyTS-iQ/w-d-xo.html
This is the key scene in the whole film. Everything else can be explained as Jack's insane hallucinations, but who unlocks the pantry door? it adds so much to the film.
Don't forget that not only Danny but Jack Wendy and Halloran has the shining. I think that Jack opened the door by telekinesis aka shining.
+Daisy Chain Bad things happened at that hotel. People were murdered. Delbert Grady murdered his wife and two daughters. The Ghost of Delbert Grady haunted that hotel. It got control of Jacks mind. It possessed him and got him to try and murder his own family like Delbert did. The ghost let him out of the pantry.
+Daisy Chain no hallucinations...these are demonic entities. the overlook wanderers
+degree7 Yes, I guess that could explain opening the main locking mechanism of the door, but it still doesn't explain the safety lock pin that Wendy also used to double lock the door. She BOTH locks the door with the main locking mechanism AND puts the safety pin, it is clearly visible in the scene where she locks the door. And there is no way to remove the safety pin from the inside. For a long time, I thought that the only logical explanation for Jack's escape is that the axe he used was somewhere inside the room with him off camera, which allowed him to break down the door and escape. But recently I noticed that a little later there is a very short amount of time, about a second where Jack passes the same room and the opened door again around the time he kills Halloran, and it is shown that the door was opened cleanly and there was no damage to the door like it was opened by force.
That is the power of The Shining - its mystery and the fact that no one really knows what the hell is happening in that movie. It leads you to believe that the "ghosts" are only in the characters' imaginations and that it is all psychological, but then there is this scene with the door that can't be explained using that logic. And this blend of psychological and super natural is what makes this film the greatest horror film ever IMO and one of the greatest films of all time period. If it was merely 100% psychological or 100% super natural, then it wouldn't be nowhere near as powerful or as discussed almost 40 years after it was made.
Jack unlocks it via Grady, one of his split personalities. The side of the pantry door is metal and reflective mirror like so he thinks Grady unlocks it for him but it's really Jack unlocking his Shining abilities
Grady: "Some of the ghouls and I are a little concerned that the project isn't moving as much as planned."
Jack: "Can't murder now, eating."
Grady: uh for crying out loud.
Jack: NOOOOOOOO
Haha Moe talking to homer. Treehouse of horrors. 😂
No beer and no T.V. makes Homer go something something....
Lionel Hutz Go crazy?
I like how Jack wakes up and calls for Wendy like he's gained his sanity back but when grady is the one who answers he seems to slip right back into insanity
Explain who unlocked the door if it's "Insanity"
@@coryboy345 it was never locked.....🙄
@@carldietz7349 Yes, it was. This is a ghost movie. It has always been a ghost movie. The source material is a ghost novel. Gadzooks. When did this pseudo-intellectual "it's all an illusion in Jack's psycho-mind!!!" trend start? BLEH.
I was just guessing.. I was a caretaker once 10 bedroom mansion left after 1 day
@@carldietz7349 you suck then if you use that as your claim to help you here.
This is about a fictional book not an actual hotel
According to Kubrick in an interview, the moment Grady lets Jack out is when the audience is supposed to understand that supernatural elements are at work here. He also mentions a story where a paranoid poker player accuses someone of cheating, and in the end you find out they really were cheating, and he used that concept in The Shining. Just because Jack's going crazy doesn't mean nothing supernatural is happening.
The point is he's going mad, and the hotel is possessing him.
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He doesn't go mad in the way of "hallucinating things and hearing voices", but rather in the form of becoming "evil" because the hotel possesses him. The things he sees are real (obviously), since they are ghosts.
People sometimes forget that the shining is a movie with supernatural things, they want to teorize that "everything is an illusion, it's all metaphorical", but ghosts do exist in "the shining" universe, whether fans want it or not
i enjoy so much movies of kubrick some people cant be replaced and clearly there is no replacement its appaling dead zone
Can't murder now. eating.
Ughh for crying out loud
All work and no play makes homer something something
@@lionelhutz5137 NOOOOOOOOOO!
No Tv no beer makes homer go something something
the best cameo, especially with all the horror movie ghosts that drag him out
"... Your wife appears to be stronger than we imagined, Mr. Torrance. Somewhat more... resourceful."
For the moment, Mr. Grady.....only for the moment
id be like ok mr Grady get lost im startin to get tired of your shit man
Fuck you Mr Grady your beginning to sound like a nagging wife.
You want them dead... you fucking do it.
Probably the ghosts are aware of his resentment towards his wife and are taunting him with it - "You were outsmarted by your wife etc. etc."
The door opening by itself is quite a revealing scene in the movie which finally tells us that Jack was not hallucinating and was in fact being recruited by hotel's demons all along.
I've always believed Jack wasn't recruited willingly but was possessed somewhat because he was already vulnerable due to anger issues and alcoholism. The hotel couldn't get his wife because she has a strong will or the kid for obvious reasons.
@@MrFunkhauser he said he would give his soul for a drink and the house which is the hotel itself gave him that with no need for money he already payed with his soul
Im someone who believes that jack was connected to the hotel all along and that he shined just like Danny and was crazy from the very start. This film is completly symbolical and nothing is supposed to "make sense", thats why there are so many different interpretations. Kubrick is a Genius.
Grady opened it
Well, duh
he could of survived in that pantry for the whole winter honestly.
shitting into jars lol
Oxygen would be a huge problem.
@@Petey90112
You empty a jar by eating and then you shit on it. Easy.
Beats getting frozen in the snow outside might as well stay in there.
Keeping hydrated would be a problem. Didn't see any bottles of water in there or other beverages. Just stuff like syrup and pickle juice. Doubt he'd last for very long.
Kubricks work is just so damn good. I have never, NEVER, watched another horror movie that made me truly stop to think what its all about.
+Logan Sanborn try The Haunting...the 60's version not the crappy remake
This and shutter island.
Read the book!!
Yeah if you look at that 97 remake it missed it's Mark because King thought he can out do Kubrick
why didn't someone give the dad in Poltergeist this lecture?
The damn ghost let him out... creepy as hell.
It isn't possible
Then how do you explain him getting out of a locked room behind a huge metal door?
It was the hotel not the ghost
In the book happened the same thing
@Larry M I like the reference
When we first meet Grady he is a servant and very deferential to Jack. But gradually the tables are turned and Grady becomes the boss whom Jack is eager to please.
Actually, the table seemed to turn quite suddenly in the middle of the discussion between Jack and Grady in the red bathroom in the ballroom. At first Grady was very polite and deferential and apologetic to Jack. But then in the middle of their discussion, soon after Jack tells Grady that he recognizes him as the previous caretaker, the table turns quite quickly. Soon Grady is telling Jack that - if he may be so bold as to say so - that Jack's son is a very 'naughty' boy who needs to be "corrected". Grady, who was previously polite and proper, even uses the vulgar "n-word" to describe the person who Jack's son is communicating with. It's a startling change in the relationship between Grady, who has unmasked himself as a vulgar, crude, and dominating person, and Jack. By the time that we're at this freezer scene in the movie, Grady's position of superiority and authority over Jack is complete. Jack is under his control.
@@samuelweir5985 Exactly. To me Philip Stone might be the best actor I've seen in a horror movie. His face turns to - haha - stone in that scene you described. Very nightmarish indeed.
The incredible acting on display here yet again. Grady sounds nothing like he did in the bathroom scene before. He now sounds unmerciful, demonic and calculating trying to get inside Jacks head. I love it
Grady was more frightening than Jack Nicholson.
Bingo. That is not quite the Grady we heard earlier in the movie. And that has bothered me...not to distraction but just enough...every time I viewed this movie. Perhaps the "others" who the now-unseen and reverberating Grady mentions purposely try to sound like him as all work their way into Torrance.
"You give your word on that, do you Mr. Torrence?"
Man, Grady means business... he sure sounds threatning when he says that
No, it's a traditional English word of honor. Grady is a gentleman and from a time in England. This means that when someone has officially given their word they NEVER go back on it. To do so would be a disgrace. A gentleman's agreement over murder is quite ironic though.
That doesn't mean he doesn't sound threatening here
I give you my word.
He sounds very menacing in all the lines in this scene.
@@elenamakkann3531worrrrrrrd...
The hotel releases Jack. The hotel is the monster and it wants Danny. The hotel tricks Jack into believing Wendy and Danny are against him. All the ghosts you see in The Shining exist because of the hotels power. In the book, the hotel is characterized as the bad guy, not the ghosts or even Jack.
I don't think the Hotel wants Danny in the movie. He's merely a catalyst for making them stronger than usual(so that they can appear to Jack). They just want to absorb yet another family here, business as usual.
DarthRushy They want Danny for his shining power
T Skelton But not in the movie. That's only in the book and miniseries. They want the whole family dead here.
Is that what it says in the book? I haven't read it but thats the best explanation I've heard, I think it's similar to the IT being.
James Lawson That is what's in the book, but the book may not be relevant just on account of how much Kubrick changed for the movie--it's a very different story, and with very different meanings.
The Shining is a masterpiece, the only movie you can watch several times and come to a different conclusion every time, a clsssic.
i never understood how perishable items would last from October till May. Btw, I love the sound of the wind howling all through hotel. It shows how isolated the family is.
Most of that stuff is either dry or canned goods which have a longer shelf life. I think the bags he's laying on are full of rice. But yes, quite a bit of inventory for being idle for half a year.
ffjsb eggs and milk
Especially
He's not in a refrigerated storage locker, it's the dry goods locker. Although they would have some milk and eggs for their own use as they obviously couldn't just run down to the corner store...
ffjsb I know. I just don't know how milk & eggs can stay good for 7 months.
Who said they would????? There are no milk or eggs in this scene....
Amazing performance by "Mr. Grady".
"Who unlocks the door?"
The hotel did.
As Mr. Hallorann said, some places shine like people. Jack literally sold his soul for a drink and the hotel did the rest. Once he made that connection and once he went into Room 237, the hotel became "alive."
When jack said he'd sell his soul right after that Lloyd pops up like the devil because he IS the devil just look at him he's wearing red he never blinks his ears are kinda pointy!
Ty, if you aren't smart enough to manage your money and not bite off more than you can chew with the banks, then it's your fault.
Serbian Space Marines if Shelley would have brought Danny down to speak to him the tiny flicker of humanity he had left might have meant he would not have become a total psycho. he did not want to be left in a fucking pantry within a fucking hotel all by himself for 10 hours while Shelley gets a doctor. she wouldn't even let him speak to his son.
I love this film but It's hard to understand some of what is going on. The place is just full-on haunted is all I can figure. Not a silly or fun kind-of haunted, but full-on hateful, evil haunted. Time for Hollywood to make more horror films like this.
No, the director confirmed that it really was Grady's ghost that opened it, not Danny, and the hotel is what brought all the ghosts to life.
The eerie wind in the background 😮
The howling wind... The sound of the unlocking door... I get CHILLS
"No need to rub it in, Mr. Grady" I know! I hate it when people rub it in. Makes me want to kill!
Are you a caretaker?
ikr, makes me want to chop them in little pieces
And then blow my brains out.
+Johan Delvare mkay mr Macky mkay
Hmm. Chili would be good tonight.
treehouse of horror V reference for those of you who didn't know. happy Halloween.
yu stu How Stephen King can continously criticize This movie is beyond me. Its a masterpiece of Horror. I think King is jealous because the movie is more famous than his book
I think part of his issue was that the movie didn't accurately reflect the book. Too many changes. And he didn't like the casting. Jack Torrence was supposed to start out relatively normal and slowly go insane, but Nicholson started off by portraying him as a man on the edge.
William Kilberry If King wants to appreciate THIS movie, all he need do is watch HIS version, the 1997 mini series. As to whether he will , I quote Delbert Grady, "I have my doubts."
can't talk. eating.
That expression at 3:17 that Jack has is like a convict who hears he is getting out of jail free without questions. lol
*I always thought that this scene could have been made even more scary if when Grady asks; ‘You give your word?’, Jack just nods and doesn’t say anything. Then Grady would say ‘Very well’. That way it would tell us that the house and ghosts are watching him the whole time, even in a confined pantry*
Great idea
I like that idea.
Mr. Kubrick is that you?!
I get it
Disagree, shitty idea is not better by writing fat. Stop thinking you are more important, respect others, please.
You've got to admire the dedication of Philip Stone who literally became a hotel for a year to make this scene work.
Even short clips like this of 'The Shining' I can watch repeatedly. I love Kubrick's use of the slow-zoom and tracking shot in this bit, and his compositions throughout the whole film (emphasizing how small the characters are inside and outside the hotel) really suck you into this nightmare-world.
Yes, his use of camera placement and tracking was indeed his craft. I love the bathroom scene with Mr. Grady too.
Let's not forget his use of sound...or LACK of it.! Most movies are littered with back to back dialogue, but Stanley skillfully uses the silent moments to reel you into the story, and it works wonders for this film. Also his use of silence in '2001 A Space Odyssey' is even more powerful.
@@canadude6401 Kubric himself was
going more paranoid in his later years
living in a fortified compound in England', and not trusting outsiders.
Revealed by the writer of '' Eyes Wide Shut '' .
RIP Shelly Duvall.... this movie wouldn't feel right without her
I just like the pantry items.
So did Homer!😅
Have some Oreo 😊
Jack looks so precious and cute when he’s sleeping lol
is this a fr or on god situation
@@Werter23rd on god situation
@@Werter23rd😂
Grady mentioned "others" in this scene; Lloyd, Derwent, Mrs. Massey (237), the "bear" man, the Grady twins, the "manager", the hotel's own character and not seen but mentioned; Grady's wife possibly. The bulk of the Overlook's spirit manifestations. Equally eerie is the constant howling winds outside the hotel throughout the film.
In my weird up-bringing when I was 12 or so, I had initially thought the elevators were hydraulic and leaking Dexron transmission fluid which has a dark red color when new.
It wasn't scary to me. Seemed like a Kool-Aid commercial for Raspberry Splash or some shit.
The Simpsons Halloween parody of this is so funny,
Homer: "Can't kill now, I'm eating"
Moe: "Oh for heavens sakes!"
Suddenly a whole group of monsters takes Homer and pulls him out of the pantry.
+Nathanael Stasinski "Hey, Homer, it's Moe. Hey, listen, some of the ghouls and I are concerned the project isn't going as quickly as planned."
+mst3KGf now you stay in here until you're no longer crazy. Mmmm, chilli would be nice tonight.
I always liked the "give me that bat" part where Homer scares himself in to falling down the stairs. Lol.
It's "Oh for crying out loud!. Come on!"
*Homer is axing through a door* "Heeeeeeeeere's Johnny!!!" *pans out to empty room* "D'oh!"
*Homer is axing through yet another door* "Daaaaaaavid Lettermaaaaan!!" *pans out to Abe* "Hai David, I'm Grandpa!!!" *D'OH!'*
Even as he's going crazy, Jack still has some Oreos for a snack.
At least, he won't go hungry in the pantry 😅
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hcyeah,easily could last a week in there.
@@laurababyyy1 The Shining was the scariest movie that I ever seen. Jack Nicholson should have been nominated for his performance in the film.
Months@@laurababyyy1
Good lord, this movie. Every second is like cold witchy fingers scraping down your spine.....There has rarely been a movie like it and I doubt in this dum-dum generation of high speed all action, there ever will be. The Shining was, is, and will forever be truly a standalone film.
I whole heartedly agree with you. I first watched it in 1985 I was a young teenager and to this day, 35 years later no other horror film gets "into my mind" like The Shining. I have watched it over 15 times. A true psychological horror movie. I am so happy that Stanley was able to realize the impact the movie made before he passed.
I honestly wasn't aware that Oreos have been around since at least 1980.
1910s
They've been around since the early 1910s pal
They weren’t in 🇬🇧 UK
3:08 You can hear the door being unlocked by someone, presumably Delbert Grady. This was right after Jack give Grady his word that he would deal with his wife and son.
Something anyone with eyes and ears can see and hear 🙉
Poltergeist’s can do things.
Yes,but there’s no light from outside. He likely used the alternate door behind all of the food
The hotel is the main antagonist or rather some unknown entity that is trapped inside the hotel and controls the ghosts.
Its native indian land , they tell you at the start of the film that when they were building they were fighting 🤔
I wonder if those oreos are still there, haunting the overlook and lamenting it was never eaten.
At least, he wouldn't starve.
I thought the set burned down shortly after filming.
He's eatting Oreo.
The only thing missing is a glass of warm milk. 🥛
@ivangomez123 Also eating planters and peanut butter while he waits for someone to unlock the door.
Unlike the aliens in Signs, the ghosts in The Shining have no trouble with pantry doors.
0:00-0:10 that's how I feel when I get home on a cloudy day. Nothing like a good nap while hearing the wind outside.
Grady's voice sounds more like Lloyd from the bar than the waiter in this scene.
The Shining Pantry Scene, brought to you by Tang.
+Eddie C And our friends at Golden Rey Pimiento Pieces.
can't forget oreo and heinz. but wouldn't all that shit get stale after a few months
Sure.Tang is the big one as Stanley has been tied to NASA forever.
If you have Libby's, Libby's, Libby's on your table, table, table,
you will murder, murder, murder when you're able, able, able...
ffjsb That Libby's jingle takes me back to when I was a kid... you're hilarious. 😄
"Uh, look, some of the ghouls and I are a little concerned that the project isn't moving forward."
"Can't murder now, eating."
"Oh for crying out loud."
[A whole bunch of movie monsters come in and drag him outside]
"Noooooo!"
Just noticed he'd been snacking on the Oreos a bit there...
Can't talk now... eating...
The greatest horror film ever made. Not sure there is anything even close.
Close:
The Exorcist
The Omen.
JAWS
ALIEN
The Thing
@@31minutesagoJaws definitely wasn't a horror film it was a thriller & Alien was a sci-fi thriller movie
@@chrisruth7057
Mmkay
Also the additional T, S fit perfectly. Wow, Three times plus all the timely fits towards the conclusion The movie enhanced a lasting impression upon a individuals mindset. Amidst their own individual mental health and state of mind. It's extremely unforgettable. Thanks again though I was done until I checked out another part. Then I was in my own individual personal role. WOW, WOW, WOW. THANKS 👍🙏💖
Aside from this compelling scene, I can't help but recall the food in this scene when I shop at Costco.
Such a wonderfully done horror film.
Why you can hear the howling winds in a hermetically sealed pantry is a mystery, unless it suggests the presence of another door that Jack might escape via.
>> Knock on this door again and I'll be coming after you Grady, for interrupting my nap time!
I laugh at all the comments here trying to explain away the door opening from Jack hallucinating being put into the pantry and doing it by telekinesis. Clearly these people never read 'The Shining' and are confused by Kubrick's adaptation. As they should be, considering that Kubrick took a ghost story about a hotel wanting Danny's power and made it out to be an alcoholic suffering from cabin fever and having a mental breakdown. The ghosts of The Overlook are behind everything and Jack is a pawn who in his weakness gets taken over by the ghosts to get to Danny.
There is something so creepy about being alone in the depths of a hotel pantry with no one around you talking to yourself. It’s so material and manila, makes me shiver.
The thing that was always creepy to me is not only was he talking to this supernatural thing, but it unlocks the door, it actually let's him out.
Why would it keep him trapped when he is now completely under its control?
He sold his soul to the Hotel, but he's not dead yet so he can leave it. And the Hotel *needs* him to be alive so he can be free to kill Wendy and Danny without any restrictions because the ghosts are indeed restricted in what they can do to Wendy and Danny.
What it didn't count on was Wendy and Danny actually surviving and outsmarting him and they're able to escape the boundaries of the Hotel's power. And with Jack trapped in the Hedge Maze, *outside* of the reach of the other ghosts, there's nothing the Hotel can do, expect claim Jack's soul and give him the role of Lloyd since that's the ghost that Jack surrendered his soul to.
That is where Jack is truly trapped, not in a pantry, but in a bar.
The sound of the pantry door being unlocked at the end of the scene, scary.
Looks like Jack was enjoying himself while being locked away. The only thing missing is beer and women.
Anyone notice what looks like a 40 oz beer open when jack wakes up? Remember that ullman said they had taken the alcohol out of the hotel? I wonder if Jack found some
He definitely has all the Heinz tomato ketchup a man could want.
Moe-Homer it's Moe, ah look some of the ghouls and I are thinking the project is not going according to plan.
Homer- Can't murder now, eating.
Moe- Ah for crying out loud.
Moe:(comes in the pantry with his gang of ghouls consisting of a werewolf, a vampire, a mummy, Freddy Kruger, Pinhead and Jason Voorhees) Come on!
I saw this at the cinema when it first came out. I must have been 7 years old. King and Kubrik. What a combination.
The Hotel unlocks the door
The Hotel was haunted.
I see this scene as one of the best in the film. Like much of Stanley Kubrick’s work, it seems to be kept vague, which makes it even more interesting, I’ve never read the book, so I don’t know if this line up with any information provided there, but I see the hotel as the antagonist of the film, not Jack. The ghosts, such as Delbert Grady and the bartender, Lloyd, are merely tools of the hotel’s will. With the case of Mr. Grady, it seems once the hotel has made the current residents go insane, (or possibly if you’re murdered on the property in the case of Grady’s wife and daughters) that the hotel traps you and you become part of its collection of tools that the hotel will use to consume the next victims. I don’t think the ghosts are acting independently and opening up the door for Jack in this scene. I think that the ghosts are literally puppets of the hotel and that they’re a way for the hotel to communicate on a verbal level with a few of its select victims. Obviously, the hotel can’t talk, so it uses the spirits of its previous victims it has at its disposal. Mr. Grady isn’t opening the door, the hotel is. The hotel’s endgame is to consume more victims, by whatever means necessary. Obviously, with the case of Mr. Grady and Jack, the easiest method to achieve this is to drive the biggest and strongest member of the group to insanity and do the dirty work of disposing of the others. I’m sure there are many other cases of the hotel consuming its victims before Grady and Jack that we never hear of. I doubt it uses the same strategy to trap its victims each time, but it will go to frightening lengths to do so. The hotel fails to trap and consume Danny and Wendy, but it seems to be content enough to just have Jack. The final scene in which the picture is shown of Jack at the July 4th Ball in 1921 signifies to me that once the hotel consumes you, you will always be a part of it....and always have been.
Great analysis. Also we know that in the case of at least Jack, booze is the method. Overlook is built on an Indian burial ground, disturbing the spirits of those there - and booze was used to subdue native americans and first nations as it has been used to corrupt and control many indigenous populations (e.g. Irish, where I'm from). But it's not saying booze itself is bad - and it isn't - it's just another tool for control because it makes people act at a lower mental level. I know people read way too much into this movie (as Room 237 showed, even though it's a fascinating watch) but I really do sympathize with those who interpret this movie as a comment on the process of imperial colonialism and what it does to those doing the colonizing as much as the victims.
Stanley Kubrick must really have liked the Grady character, since everything he says in the movie is taken almost entirely from the book, practically word-for-word.
You know that this reference to a song named "Hotel California" or vice versa.
1:56 " That you haven't the belly for it". Thats what pushed Jack towards fulfilling his mission. Once Grady said that there was no stopping Jack.
Maybe this isn't part of the idea, but jack became so obsessed with succeeding at this job, as caretaker, that when aggravated, he is pushed to please his new boss, Grady, for the job or killing his family, in pursuit of caretaking the hotel. A mark of insanity for sure.
the delivery on “you haven’t the belly for it” is so unbelievably sinister
One of the scariest scenes in the movie, because how can this be explained? Either there are real, tangible ghosts lurking about, or the hotel itself is some kind of living, functioning embodiment of evil.
Both are true
The ghosts could manifest themselves into physical forms, right? since the lady in room 237 strangled Danny. So could Grady have done that here?
Lady didn't struggle Danny, Danny was going though an episode.
Or there was a living crazy lady in the hotel, another shiner who was under it's influence.
@@shaggyrogers7986 It was a struggle for her to strangle Danny 😄
no. grady had nothing to do with that.
In the book, there's a bottle of gin and a glass waiting for him outside the pantry when he gets out.
This guy is so scary when in here that I can't feel it.
Yes this is what a pychward feels like.
0:32 Jack was eating some nice Oreos
I love Oreos 🤤
In the book, he is eating cookies while locked in the pantry. Not because he is especially hungry but he needs the energy. He plans to engage in mayhem when he gets out.
@stevekaczynski3793 triskets in the book
I find it unsettling that you can hear the storm howl within the pantry..something I hadn't noticed until just recently and I've watched / listened to this film NUMEROUS times 🤔
Rockin' the Oreo slash peanut butter combo.
Theres far more to this film then just jack talking to "hallucinations". Clearly there were always supernatural elements to this from so many other parts. Im not sure why people are surprised by it.
Reminding anyone of Trevor Phillips?
Thought same
Mind blown.
You can actually give Trevor a very similar haircut and buy the jacket that Jack is wearing in the movie it’s actually called the ‘Overlooked’ jacket, the hotel is called The Overlook hotel
I ALWAYS think of Jack Torrance when I see Trevor. Awesome character.
Trevor Phillips.
I love The Shining! It’s one of my favourite films, and this scene, apart from the axe scene, is my favourite!
Mine, too. Shelley Duvall died yesterday 😢
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc oh no!
Grady sounds very different here than he did in the bathroom scene.
Yeah but it was him though
Maybe Grady sounds different because he projects more in this scene
In the bathroom scene he's speaking slightly softer and with a higher pitch. Here he really means business and it sounds a bit different.
I wish i had those groceries
There's an opened jar of peanuts next to Jack along with other types of snacks. This kinda makes me laugh thinking he had something to eat while in this insane mindset then went to sleep haha
The only time during this film that I felt scared but when that door opened. I got chills. You realize in this moment the level of evil we’re dealing with.
Seriously though a job well done on the acting by the oreos, kool aid, tang, heinz ketchup................................................AND the nilla wafers. All of their performances were second to none!!!!! They were Kubrick's unsung heroes because even when they weren't shown, they were still there the whole time, sitting in the same spot and doing exactly what they were supposed to do.
You’re not funny
You got that right my Nilla
My favorite little detail is that Jack's been tearing into the Oreos and planters while he's been locked in there lol
The Simpson's take on this scene will never leave my mind.
Marge was splendid as Wendy.
Will You indeed Mr. Torrence?
I think Danny unlocked it while he was asleep. Jack heard Mr Grady in his head and imagined the door being unlocked which when he physically tried the door it opened. The scene following this is Danny in a catatonic state repeating redrum over and over meaning that Danny knew what was going to happen directly because he knew the door was now open and that his father was coming for them both.
If that is the case , he would have been dead .
How do you explain Wendy seeing the ghosts, Halloran having the shining, he and Danny communicating in their thoughts, Jack picking up and drinking the bourbon and the picture in 1921?
Will you indeed, Mr Torrence? I wonder. I have my doubts. I, and the others, have come to believe that your heart is not in this. That you haven't the belly for it.
Best scene in the movie, since up until now no one could be sure that Jack wasn't merely hallucinating it all.
It was a ghost that opened the door. If it wasnt why does Wendy start seeing the ghosts later on too.
When she was dragging his ass into the pantry reminded me a few times being drunk out of my kind and mumbling that was hilarious lol
Musical allusion: the incipit of Beethoven's 5th, with fate knocking on the door (4 knocks, repeated)! Love it!!
What's the matter, Joker? Locked in a food pantry because your wife got the better of you in a creepy hotel?
One thing is for sure, you're not hallucinating if the door unlocks and opens.
In other words, the genius of Kubrick in action.
My man was snacking & napping away 🤣
J'en reviens pas de ce film là, quand j'étais jeune j'ai écouté sa sur l'acide tellement c'est un chef d'oeuvre. L'acteur principal est je crois le meilleur acteur que la terre a porté. Analyser les scènes, le moindre petit détail est très important pour ce rendre compte que cette acteur la est unique. Je crois que c'est mon préféré. Aujourd'hui des films comme ça il ne s'en fait plus malheureusement. Quand on écoutait pour la première fois dans le temps, sa rentrait dedans en SVP.
He's got a nice little feast there. In the book Jack just eats a box of Triskets too keep energy.
"can't murder now, eating"
The answer to who opened the pantry door is Kubrick himself. He did it to introduce a note of ambiguity into his story.
Second only to the final scene when the camera focuses in on the photograph on the wall with Torrence in the middle from 1921, for plot impact. This one scene proves the ghosts are not imaginary. Danny of course has the encounter with the twins and the lady in 237.
For the moment Mr Grady.Only for the moment
I need to watch this again.
The ghost is challenging him by talkin shit to him. Classic psychology
we miss kubrick too such a master mind for movies and twist another god of cinema lost too soon
I think you meant to say "I and others miss Kubrick..."
I think something Kubrick needs to work on is his perfection "Level", poor Shelly Duvale and Jack Nicholson LITERALLY went insane making this movie lol