I have been wondering about that recently. I am wondering if Jack actually did right something, but the "hotel" changed it to that once sentence, only for Wendy.
That ACTUAL sin set in the motion the rest of the movie, and I've never noticed it! "I'd give my soul for a goddamn beer." His soul is now trapped in the hotel because he wanted booze, and ultimately sold his soul to the hotel just to get it. His addiction resulted in his own demise.
That was actually the core of Stephen King's novel, addiction. That's one of the reasons that he didn't like this film adaptation, because Kubrick downplayed that aspect of it.
I always loved how the architecture is purposefully wrong across the movie. Kubrick made sure that characters were filmed walking down halls that, when you map them out, are actually physically impossible
I noticed that too. But that aside, I would personally love having a mansion to myself in the mountains in a rural area for 6 months, the space, the freedom, the peace. Something about the combination of big house and rural area is something that's ideal to me. I can garentee that I will not lose my sanity staying there. I can only see myself feeling better from it
Yeah, and honestly, it was a dumb and pointless move. Nobody picks up on that shit while watching a movie -- not even subconsciously. Kubrick just looooooves being pretentious.
Additional sin: Jack is told he has "always been the caretaker" and that's what he was hired to do, but the only person you ever actually see taking care of the hotel is Wendy.
Yeah, that kinda bugs me. They could've at least shown something at at least talk about it. Even in the beginning when everything was still okay he straight up talks about finishing his writing and no mention on maintaining the house at all.
Kubrik's movies are always about imagination, he only shows what is important and let the audience imagine what it really is. Maybe Jack is pissed off cause of that, Wendy's now taking Jack's 'Job', so that's what pissed him off and made him kill his family.
To support your theory is to take the mirror image of "opposition" to be what Stanley Kubrick wants us to psychology see: Before Wendy has a kitchen knife she swings a bat (primitive stereotypical weapon of caveman). She uses the bat to knock Jack out after finding out "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." Opposite: All=No , work=play so play=work, "and"="or" like in Boolean logic, no=all, Jack=Wendy, a dull=a sharp (where "a" can't also be a word opposite "not a" but to reference one particular singular Jack and then Wendy person in this case), boy=girl (notice the word makes assumed the border mirror cutoff or equal of left and right mirror images sign) -----> The mirror image now is "No play or all work makes Wendy a sharp girl." Notice the Boolean logic implies Wendy could have played when she wasn't all working. This then shows she moves from stereotypical wife weaponry from bat to knife also as her mind sharpens from all work without having no play. Jack moves from fist to lumberjack or fire axe as a sharp instrument held by a stick like a bat (stereotypical caveman weaponry that similarly native Indians also used) to be used for destruction and combat and death and hunt parallels (as cutting trees does as does fires so fire axe more the weapon). When Jack wants to destroy the family Wendy is sharp in wisdom to flee to the bathroom allowing the son to escape in a plan of luring Jack away from Wendy to maintain "Brady correction order of: When the girls tried to burn down the hotel I corrected them ... When my wife tried to interfere I corrected her also." Notice also the parallel of Grady, a survivor but wife and twin girls destroyed by axe in plan to destroy hotel in fire. The opposite would have "two twins" now an opposite mirror reflection of "one wife" being "two non twins (and adult woman and child boy opposite)" and "one Mr. Holleran (who dies by non-correction means explained later)" with "husband alive killer" now "husband dead killer" opposite mirror word play. Mr. Holloran died? Or was it considered a sacrifice (mirror image of death and life) like the many Indian relics representing Overlook Hotel's symbolism of spiritualism resulting from, as an actual byproduct mirror image to the Rich and Elite's teaching of "White Man's Burden - civilizing the dull or not sharp natives stereotypical to caveman!"
I mean it's kinda obvious why that is so how is it sin-worthy? He's not doing any true caretaking because he's busy losing his mind, and Grady is using the word "caretaker" as something metaphorical and much greater than the face-value definition of the word. He clearly doesn't actually care whether or not Jack does a single thing he was hired to do; he's just a ghost. And that's just an explanation for the story that appears to take place. Once you see the movie for what it is, it's even easier to justify that with the fact that Wendy is a paranoid schizophrenic, as Rob pointed out a couple comments above.
I still cannot believe that Shelley Duvall was nominated for worst actress in this movie. She went through hell during the making of this film to the point where her hair started falling out from stress. Her performance is both mesmerizing and terrifying. She deserved better.
I'm pretty sure that the people in charge of the Razzies can't watch anything sincerely. Anything slightly unconventional is just a potential cheap joke.
Stanley Kubrick was purposely stressing her out and being mean to her during production as filming went on, because he felt it would get her into character more, considering she becomes more and more stressed throughout the movie.
One of my all time favorite movies, like the Spielberg version, too, and so full of sins :) Thank u Cinemasins for the analysis and great execution as always!
i always thought the "tuesday" stuff was to show REAL cabin fever. We dont know how long its been for them for a while, then all of a sudden ITS TUESDAY! this quarantine taught me that.. just how much the DAY of the week doesnt matter.
@@DerMoerpler moreover, it was 80s, so no internet, very limited tv, no small portable devices to play or pass time or entertain, moreover I didn't saw a library or books in any scene of the hotel. I can't even imagine what would anyone would experience when going through 6 months of 0 form of entertainment or pass time
To be fair to Dick Hallorann, his arrival and attempt to help might seem worthless but he actually kinda *does* still save the day. Jack was right there with an axe, Wendy cornered with nowhere to go, then Hallorann arrives and diverts Jack’s attention, gives Wendy time to escape.
@@mariahyohannes This is a really fucking strange way to interpret what I've said. Almost like you're looking to bait someone in to an argument. No thank you.
I like how as Jack is talking to Grady about him killing his kids, the more he denies it, the more sinister Jack becomes, then in turn eventually Grady becomes more sinister in the convo, almost as if the hotel is mirroring Jack in a sense.
Rewatch that scene. Jack never looks at Grady. Jack is looking at his reflection in the mirror the entire time he's "talking" to Grady. The metaphor is every generation in this country has sold out their children's inheritance of a pristine landscape to a trash filled after-party by choosing a more hedonistic lifestyle than the generation before. Each generation blames the other for the inevitable horror show to come.
A misconception is that Jack randomly goes crazy when other caretakers didn't. This isn't about the haunting. The hotel wants Danny because he has The Shining. This story is about the war between the hotel and Danny. Everyone else was just caught in the crossfire.
There's an interesting theory about how Jack has latent shining abilities that were suppressed on the count of his alcoholism. But since he's been sober theyve been slowly coming back, hence why he and Danny were the only ones to interact with the ghosts until the climactic ending
@@davidgn40 I believe this was also covered in the sequel as they went after the kids, not just because they were more naive but because their shine was pure and stronger so Dick wasn’t a real target bc he knew how to protect himself from the hotel…
Jack’s history of violence is directly tied to alcohol. His most regrettable act of violence was breaking his sons arm while drunk. He never actually gets a drink. The hotel just used what it needed to lead him towards the ultimate violence, murder. Jack was brought there to fill a role only instead of being the caretaker his role was to continue the vicious murders that feed the hotel it’s evil psychic energy. The alcohol was merely a symbol of Jack succumbing to his violent urges. He had sworn off drinking to be a better husband and father. The Hotel starts to wear on him and break down his psyche. Essentially him accepting the “drink” is him giving into the evil in himself and being controlled by the evil energies of the Overlook. He’s in that photo in the end because the hotel has claimed his soul and residual evil energy for itself. (Which is only in the movie btw. The Overlook burns down in the book)
You forgot the sin that bartenders are still upset about to this day. Jack asks Lloyd for bourbon, but Lloyd pours him Jack Daniels, which technically, isn't bourbon.
In all seriousness, the thing I never really bought into was how quickly Jack went from normal guy to homicidal maniac. Nicholson's performance, as touched on in this vid, was so over the top to begin with that he never seemed like just a normal, healthy everyman.
He was never a normal guy (at least not in the book). He always had anger management issues (when he broke Dani's arm or when he almost killed an student) even when he was younger (he used to kick dogs from the streets to release his anger). He was also weak, he need alcohol more than anything. Because Jack was already pretty damaged (he had a really bad childhood), it was easy to break him and make him go crazy. The Overlook had break other men, the hotel takes advantage of broken people to make them loose their mind and kill their family, they explain it all in the book (haven't seen the movie yet). Maybe Stanley should have take more time for Jack's development as a character, when he first arrived to the hotel he was doing pretty well!
Stephen King said that he didn't like Jack Nicholson performance in terms that he played a crazy person restricting himself. In his book it is a loving father and husband that descents to craziness. www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-real-reason-stephen-king-despises-the-movie-version-of-the-shining.html/
@@mariaathena7910 To some degree. He was a "normal guy" on the surface but he was clearly battling a drinking problem and haunted by the memory of the night he ran over a kid plus he did yank Dannys arm out of its socket while mad.
dude i’m not even kidding you, it’s the ONLY part of the movie that legitimately freaks me out. i had to skip over that part in the video because that scene just gives me so many chills.
I feel like one sin should be Wendy admitting to the doctor that her husband broke her sons arm, and the doctor doing nothing. Doctors are mandated reporters, she should have called CPS.
I feel like mandated reporting wasn't around in the early 80's but I could be wrong. Although I went to school with kids that were being obviously abused and the school never reported it and it was in that time frame. But whether mandated or not she should have called CPS anyway IMO.
I agree. I always feel uncomfortable for her when she almost giggles at the story.."oh u know just one of those things..he injured Dannys arm"...HUGE SMILE ON HER FACE
There’s actually a very interesting interpretation to this theme of the movie by Rob Ager (Collaterive Learning) that Jack is actually sexually abusing Danny. Under that interpretation the mother is likely in denial
@@ashleyd3329 It's a clearly nervous smile, done on purpose to try to get that doctor to mimic her fake "happiness" over the awful thing that she's relaying instead of becoming angry and concerned
I was so devastated when she was voted "worst actress of all time" like what? This role caused her to get more counciling then she was already having, her hair was falling out due to stress and she was struggling to keep food down during so much of filming
YES! Andy wanted a rock hammer before he knew he could tunnel out. When was he ever going to use that rock hammer? No way he could use it in the yard without being caught!
I like to think that Jack’s wallet was empty in the first bar scene when he wanted a beer and then the second scene he imagined he had money because he’s imagining that he’s in a fully functioning bar with people so part of the delusion is he has money and alcohol
Apparently Stephen King didn't want Jack Nicholson cast in the movie because he felt like he didn't have the ability to make the character go from straight and narrow family man to full on crazy.
The beauty of the Shining is that Nicholson's character already has very human flaws that become magnified to the point of insanity by the effects of isolation. The character arc is beautiful because it is believable with or without believing in "ghosts."
@@factbeaglesarebest Kubrick's Shining conveys a very eerie progression that is artfully, ingeniously precise. I haven't read King's Shining, but what little I have read from King is wordy, sloppy, disorganized, unfocused, poorly edited stream of consciousness stuff, the literary equivalent of TV or junk food.
@@factbeaglesarebest It is much more believable that Jack's insanity grows out of his normal human flaws. That way it is hard to tell whether he is really going crazy or just experiencing stress until it's too late. Real people are never entirely "straight and narrow."
Dear CinemaSins! I have read The Shining just recently, and I have to say Kubrick did a masterpiece of trying to sort out the key moments out of the tangled mess the book is. There are so much material and so many references that the movie should have been 4 hours long. Due to this, you made about 15 errors in your sin tally, as Kubrick simply followed the book to the letter at some moments, while omitting many interim stages, so it seems out of logic, while it actually is quite logical. For example, at 0:40 you ask who the fuck are the people in Denver? Jack's friend is one of the directors of the board of the hotel, and he recommended Jack for the job. Why did Kubrick omit to mention this? we don't know, but the phrase is perfectly sensible. at 3:50 you ask why they stocked the freezer full of meat for the winter? THESE WERE THE SUPPLIES FOR THE CARETAKER FAMILY FOR 6 MONTHS, not for the whole hotel. 12 turkeys and 40 chickens won't feed a hotel full of guests for a week, not to say for a month. at 7:00 you discuss that the hotel should have had lots of caretakers, not just Jack and Grady. WRONG. The hotel was always shut for the winter, which caused it to freeze on the inside and the structural damage had to be repaired each spring, which caused huge expenses. This is the reason they tried to instate a caretaker position - to warm the building up in the winter and do small repairs to minimize the cost of the refurbishing in the spring. They tried with Grady first, and after the slaughter, the hotel was closed for several years. so THERE NEVER WERE WINTER CARETAKERS THERE. at 8:35 - Jack stopped drinking heavily 3 years ago when he hurt Danny and broke his arm. He was drunk just once, after he lost his job 5 months ago, due to publicly beating the shit out of a cocksusker student, who cut the tires of his car. Jack was fired, got drunk, sobered up and never drank a drop for the next 5 months. at 10:15 -- Dick had just enough Shine to talk telepathically to someone in the same room. Danny had enough Shine to reach Dick across several states. Compare the cell battery power with a nuclear plant. Could Dick reach Danny back the same way? Definitely not! As for the reasons for the hotel to be evil and why Grady took some long time to free Jack - Danny's SHINE powers up the hotel and makes its ghosts real. SHINE does not work, while Danny is asleep. Grady appeared only when Danny awoke. It was written in the book and can be deduced from the movie. at 15:35 the reason for the desire to kill Danny is that the hotel wants Danny to become a ghost here, as then the SHINE will always be on and the hotel will be alive. Grady said that Jack can join the managerial suite of the hotel, should he solve the situation with Danny. Jack wants to be immortal and live in this hotel forever, so his primary goal is to kill Danny now, not Wendy. Wendy is nothing but a nuisance. A great sin analysis, good sirs, but I have to admit you overreacted quite a lot of times. However, this movie still did not get 180+ sins like some others, so thanks for a job well done, gentlemen!
Bogdan Leshenko - As a die hard Stephen King fan myself, and an even bigger fan of this book, you sir deserve many more likes for this breakdown and correction. I know I’m like 4 months late, but I’m here. And I appreciate you.
A couple of things you've criticized in the video actually make perfect sense: The shining is hereditary. Dick Halloran mentions this in his conversation with Danny. Jack has it too, but he has repressed it/is unaware of it and his powers are nowhere near as strong as his son's. Whenever a character "shines" in the movie, a high-pitched ringing sound is played. This sound also plays whenever Jack is staring into space. His powers and his fucked-up mental state is why the hotel has such an easy time influencing him. Jack coming across as unhinged during the car ride to the Overlook is not an inconsistency, Kubrick has confirmed in interviews that by the time Jack arrives at the hotel, he is already mentally prepared to annihilate his family. He is an abusive alcoholic, an unsuccessful author, he has a strained relationship with his wife and son and is unable to hold down a job. He pretty much has no redeeming qualities. This is not really explained in the movie, but in the novel it is mentioned that if a person dies at the hotel, their spirit is absorbed by it. It targets shiners to amplify its paranormal activity by absorbing their powers. Dick Halloran and Danny/Tony are pretty much safe because they understand what the Overlook is and therefore cannot be manipulated by it. Wendy doesn't have the shining so she doesn't see anything strange until the very end. Jack has the shining and is extremely mentally unstable, so he's an easy target. The hotel's main goal is to get him to kill Danny because he is the strongest shiner. The hotel goes bonkers after Halloran's death because his powers were absorbed, increasing the paranormal activity to a point where even Wendy can see it. Jack is in the picture in the end because his spirit has also been absorbed by the Overlook. The reason why none of the other caretakers besides Grady have become homicidal might have been because none of them possessed the shining and therefore couldn't be manipulated.
'This is not really explained in the movie' - well if you have complicated, abstract ideas and make no effort to explain them, it's not going to be a great film. It's easy to explain things outside the film in a couple of paragraphs. Good filmmaking would be to make it so people could work these things out without saying them explicitly. This film doesn't do that.
@keithwellerlounge74 Imagine not only thinking you need to be spoonfed everything like an infant but that The Shining isn't a great movie because you lack the ability to interpret on your own. Get your clown ass outta here
I’ve looked up what the image at the end meant. Kubrick said that it suggests that it’s a reincarnation of Jack, meaning that Jack’s soul is trapped at the hotel and is eventually dragged back when his soul escapes
One theory I heard says that the pantry is actually the portal to the ghost side of the hotel. The clue is supposedly that, at the start of the movie, they enter the pantry and the door swings one way but when they exit, it swings the other, showing they've entered the mirror dimension.
In _Eyes Wide Shut,_ there's a scene where Nicole Kidman's character looks like she had been up all night crying. She was asked in an interview how she achieved that look, and she said, "By literally staying up all night and crying." At another point in the movie, Tom Cruise's character has a very believable emotional breakdown. That wasn't acting. Kubrick had made him do the scene so many times that he had an actual emotional breakdown. Stanley Kubrick never went for half-measures.
6:20 I think I can actually provide an answer to this sin. In Stephen King's novel, Jack finds a scrap book about the horrific history of The Overlook which kind of acts as a stepping stone on his path to his insanity. Although not explicitly explained in the film, this book on his desk in Kubrick's adaptation always struck me as that very scrap book described at length in Stephen King's novel, or at very least an homage to the original idea of the scrapbook from the novel
The prop used is in a gallery somewhere you can go and see it along with the other props. Except inside it has clippings from news articles around the time they changed the gold standard and not the history of The Overlook. Don’t really know what this detail means or what it was going to be used for but I thought it was interesting.
There doesn't even have to be that kind of explanation for it in the movie. Jack is pretending to write in order to keep up the facade of his sanity, for the sake of Wendy (and the audience, of course). It makes complete sense that he would have research materials on his desk to make it more convincing.
"Even for the 80s, that is massively unsafe." The Shining might have been released in 1980, but it's 100% a 70s movie. The 80s hadn't even begun to happen yet.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Like the first year of every decade is exactly like the decade that came before... Damn I hope that made sense lol.
Madison Stephens Like the part at the beginning where Jack meets the hotel manager for his job interview. The manager’s office has a window with an outside view where there couldn’t possibly be an outside view. It’s subtle enough that people don’t know what’s wrong but they sense that something doesn’t quite make sense.
Oh, the old "God works in mysterious ways"-argument. Everything is perfect, and if something isn't perfect, it's intentionally imperfect, so that it is perfect.
The "Tuesday" mark foreshadows that, in less than a week, everything will go bananas. Up to this point, the film has been quoting unspecific periods: - "the interview", suggesting there's been a previous interaction for a job opportunity that is now being brought to completion; - "closing day", suggesting some time passed between the interview and the Torrances finally moving into the hotel. That the story turns oddly specific on time periods after the "one month later" mark implies that _someone_ or _something_ is keeping a vague record of what's going to happen, and they're _losing their patience;_ or better yet (as some others have suggested): they're _losing count in exasperation._
@@redlinemando Except Lisa and Louise Burns, the actresses who played the Grady Sisters, are identical twins in real life. They are not twins in the book or the film.
jdcrowe82 god damn “identity twins” aren’t identical in every way you dumb fuck. It just means they developed from a single zygote. Everything after that can change their appearances to be pretty different
Harmony Kapsley NOTHING in a Kubrick film is an accident. It could have been some sort of "psychic dyad" effect that made them identical after their murder. WHO KNOWS what Kubrick was thinking? Only Kubrick did.
@@Ocrilat Well that's a questionable point. The dialogue expressly SAYS they were 2 years apart (expressly saying they were "8 and 10, years old" rather than saying "he killed his wife and two little girls," like someone normally would); but they appear to DANNY as identical twins. It's not like Kubrick would deliberately cast identical twins, after expressly setting them two years apart, without some cinematic purpose. Kubrick is simply beyond the comprehension of CinemaSins, who call out MISTAKES; but Kubrick inserted these intentionally.
Shelley Duvall grew up in Texas. When she speaks with a twang she's slipping up and using her own accent. As a native Texan myself, I can hear hints of a twang in her pronunciation of vowels throughout the film.
People can have different accents than their region. I grew up in Ohio, but my younger brother developed a Rastafarian accent because we got a Jamaican housekeeper.
@@SovereignStatesman Oh for sure. But there's no backstory in either the novel or the script indicating Wendy grew up with a housekeeper from Texas or anything like that. And Shelley Duvall's twang (which is pretty authentic) is evident in films other than the Shining.
@@SovereignStatesman Shelley is Texan, no mistaking the authenticity to her twang, Hollywood be damned. Probably a reason Kubrick and his cronies gave her nonstop shit too.
@@joepermenter7228 Yeah like he gave shit to Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove. Oh wait... Wendy's parents could have been Texan, it doesn't matter. People pick up different dialects. The point is that Kubrick only cared about ONE THING: THE MOVIE. He knew that everything else was temporary, but the MOVIE WAS FOREVER. He tricked George C. Scott into playing a comedy role in Dr. Strangelove: Scott NEVER KNEW that it was a comedy, until the movie came out! He was FURIOUS, and swore NEVER to work for Kubrick ever again. And then there's Darth Prowse, who Kubrick made carry Pat McGee down flights of stairs in a wheelchair six times, so he'd LOOK furious at Malcom McDowell, because Kubrick knows that's it's similar on film, and he gave Prowse THICK GLASSES for the scene so that you couldn't see his eyes. So he naturally drove Shelly crazy so that she'd give the right vibe on screen, which is why The Shining was the scariest movie ever.
Could've also [un]-sinned Kubrick for the Guiness Book Record for most number of re-takes of that iconic stair scene. I mean congrats, but it also led to a nervous breakdown for actress Duvall... Her hair fell out & everything! That's also why that scene is so emotionally powerful, Duvall really WAS at her wits end!
Yeah, I think Duvall went mental after this movie. Kubricks idea of 'get the actor upset and you will get more out of them' direction technique was too much for this movie. Kubrick is my favorite director, but he fuc'd with Shelley unecessarily IMO, she had a tough role!!!!
Apparently jack Nicholson had gone through fire fighter training and kept obliterating the door with just a few hits to the point that they had to use a whole bunch of doors and get him to purposefully slow down and hit the door wrong. So no one's fault really the Actor was just even more of a legend than is commonly known.
As to the money thing. He didn't have money the first time when he was still sort of connected to reality. When he goes back he is losing his grip and in his fantasy world of course he has cash.
@@saahilthakkar4593 he was bordering between both... he was still in reality but the hotel was starting to show its hand to him... when he returns to the bar he’s invested in the hotels reality.
A SIN on Cinema Sins' Original Sin: At 8:22 Why did you doubt Wendy's fact when Jack is literally disclosing that "3 years ago" remark to a ghost? If anything, JACK is the one lying about the 3 years ago element. He's trying to put distance between his current self and that violent behavior, but we know the truth, that he lies on the verge of a violent mental break. In fact, in a sense, this IS the moment where the mental break occurs. He hasn't knowingly interacted with the spirit of the Overlook until this point.
I love how the sin counter decided, "Hey screw it I'm not sinning a Kubrick film, so I'm going to grab a beer for the next 20 minutes and let my cousin Hal do all the leg work!"
Eleanor Hise Weren’t they trapped in the hotel because of the snow? So they couldn’t go to a market and buy food, also if they could go out to a market it wouldn’t be complete isolation from everyone else
@@Jewls2 They COULD go into town, using the snow-cat; but it would take a long time. They simply had to stay at the hotel to keep everything running, and they had plenty of food to last the winter. The movie made a big issue of this, with the chef (Scatman Cruthers) telling Shelly Duvall about meals during the winter, and how they could eat a different meal every time, with all the different food they had in the kitchen. So to think the movie ignored the issue of food, is like missing the issue about lifeboats in "Titanic."
Damn right, I was like Bruh...they have a kid. They probably bought enough to last them a while so they don't have to spend more money every time they take him to the store.
One of the funny things about the helicopter establishing shots is how hard it was to not show the gas station and town walking distance from the hotel. I stayed there once, it's really pretty and, kind of unfortunately, really not spooky or scary
Jack Torrance is actually the reincarnation of the man in that picture, which is why he tells Wendy he feels like he's been in the hotel before and that he loves it there, knows the bartender and one of the servants in the movie. The hotel has the power to bring in reincarnations of the past souls to kill their families
@Scott Doty Here's a video of Kubrick saying it's reincarnation: th-cam.com/video/px7Lq68Yvvw/w-d-xo.html. Stop trying to argue with people above your skill level and do some research.
“The people in Denver” Ullman talks about is Jack’s best friend Al Shockley who’s trying to get him a job after he got fired from teaching for beating up one of his students
ChiBae it’s still an interesting part of the story that people should know. Later in the movie Jack is wearing a Stovington shirt where he and Al lived so I say if it’s part of the story it is part of the movie
Thanks ya pointed out a few things I didn’t notice… all though 90% of the findings weren’t done by mistake. The film itself is a giant maze still mostly undiscovered. One of the most mysterious, captivating, & greatest movies of all time!
Its explained more in the book. Danny's 'Shine' is so powerful, the ghosts somehow become real because of it... it doesn't go into as much detail about the Grady's... but its more or less eluded to being the same or similar cause, that one or more of the Grady's had 'Shine' themselves, which the hotel, which includes the ghosts inhabiting it again could become 'real' and influence the real world. The book also talks about other times, people would see a ghost or something, because a lot of people have a little 'shine' to them, but it wouldn't go much further than seeing the hedge animals move, which would have been a nice addition, if done right, or seeing the ghosts from the corner of their eye...
5:50 As the movie goes on, the time stamps get smaller, like a countdown, starting with the interview, jumping a month, then transitioning to specific days of the week, then to times during those days. This is to make the views psychologically feel more claustrophobic because we are aware that there must be something that the countdown is counting-down to.
In the book, Jack Torrance was an English literature teacher in Stovington before he was fired for giving one of his students a concussion. At the Overlook, Danny was being taught to read and write because (i) He was interested in reading the signs Tony kept showing him and (ii) His dad promised him that if he could do the worksheets/reading, he would help him put together the toy VW.
I met Danny and the Twins at a horror convention. The bartender gave me a mulligan. I ordered a beer turned around and the twins were standing there! I dropped my beer, looked all sad for a second, and the bartender gave me another beer for free. He said, "It happens"! That's cool about your uncle though
Mine too. I really liked Scatman's performance in this, probably my favorite performance in this movie tbh. I also thought that Melvin Van Peebles was good too in the miniseries.
I don't know if this is a continuity error or intentional but does anyone notice that the map of the maze actually at the entrance of the maze shows it as being pretty small. But then when Jack is approaching the model of the maze it is much bigger. And finally, when we see the overhead shot of the maze with Wendy and Danny walking in the middle the maze, to me at least, looks three times bigger than the model of the maze that Jack is staring at. I've just done a quick cursory count of the different walls of the maze and it seems from the above view that there are many many more rows. I've got to believe this was done for dramatic effect to just show how much more danger Wendy and Danny are in then they know.
@@fracturenumerique yeah you are right. Lots of technical errors. But they are mostly visible because so many people watch so many of kubricks movies so many times . But that doesn't excuse the errors
He was at like a 7 on the crazy meter throughout most of the movie, when he went full 10 at the end it was great because he played it so well but like the video said, did he even need the hotel to go that crazy? Seems like he was one bad day away from it anyways
I was 8 in 1980 and trailers for horror films (which I wasn't allowed to watch, obviously) absolutely terrified me. I always remember going into Woolworths on a Saturday & looking at the racks of SK books, and other horror novels, too. Great memories.
@@aramisaac4292 are you serious?!?!!!?!?! The mom actress suffered permanent back injury from a stunt the director insisted that she do! PERMANENT DAMAGE!
Fun fact: Almost 85% of all horror stories and movies are inspired on things or places in real life, and so is this movie. It is inspired by the Stanley Hotel, wich is currently still open for vacations and ghost tours, complete with hedge maze. And it has free wi-fi! Really, it seems like one heck of a creepy haunted hotel.
You definitely pulled that 85% statistic out of your ass. Anyway, while The Shining was indeed inspired by Stephen King's stay at the Stanley Hotel, it has nothing to do with ghosts. King stayed there right before the hotel closed for the winter and there were no other guests, which creeped him out and gave him the idea for the book. The hotel only tried to sell the "haunted" aspect after the immense popularity of the film. It was never considered haunted before, and obviously ghosts aren't real anyway.
It’s not haunted at all. There was never a single report of any “hauntings” or supernatural activity there whatsoever until after the movie came out. 🤣 People are just stupid, dramatic and imaginative.
Both the book& movie are already classics and for much the same reason. That 'creep' effect that permeates the book and movie. The big differences are WHAT is causing this overall sense of impending doom Of dread really. The book achieved this through the relatively new concept of an inanimate object, in this case , a hotel, that takes on a life of it's own & has , over the decades become not just alive but malevolent. This concept is kept in kubricks film as is much more of the novel than you'd think but these things are not what attracted kubrick to the novel but they're still in there, the boiler that ' creeps' is there as are some of the manifestations but Kubrick was fixated on what the real driving force behind all else. A man is going to lose it. A violent man by nature and an even more violennt man when drining. What's really scary and highlights 1 of the main changes between book and film is, unlike the novel where Jack's madness was kind of a slow burn, what's truly fucked up about kubrick s version is not that Jack is, at some point going to go insane & go after his own family, but what's scary about the movie Jack is how long he had already been going insane before he ever even gets to the overlook.
I watched Dr. Sleep once....I honestly don't know if I could watch it again. Not because it was a bad movie.....on the contrary. The Shining is one of my favorite horror films and I thought it a worthy successor. Just that one scene....where they kill the baseball boy, just....traumatized me.
Doctor Sleep is a better film than The Shining. Not sure if it's because of the director or the era, but this film is stiff af. DS had actual nyances ans shit.
I can't believe the door's bashed hole changed that much from one shot to the next. That's such a big continuity error that it makes me think those things are on purpose like Jeremy mentions, like it's supposed to be messing with the viewer.
My understanding on why Jack is able to escape the room with the bathtub lady without a scratch and Danny isn’t, is because Danny’s shine makes the things in the hotel more real around him. They feed off of him. That’s why the bathtub lady could hurt Danny but not Jack. Also the hotel is trying to get Jack to kill his family. Physically attacking him probably would not help in that endeavor. I’m referring to the sin at 9:31 in the video
@@michelleprieur1 she was completely terrified after the movie. Doing all that screaming like someone is going to murder her, she had literal nightmares and it tormented her for years. That's why she is a Schizo
@@jimnewl its a different thing when someone can't act. If that was the case then Kubrick could have gotten someone different, but it was literal torture for her. On top of that she was ridiculed for years.
@UCMAmfItKNjTbk9KxOvPbKaA lol sasly there are people that take this more seriously then its meant and even try to be critical of the points made in these non critical videos
Well I would hardly call it the perfect movie. It's certainly a great movie. I couldn't go to sleep the night I watched it because every time I closed my eyes I saw those two little girls in the hallway. Still there are plenty of sins to be had. Jack Nicholson's performance was really the only one that made the movie believable.
3:50 I always assumed the stocked pantry and freezers were for the Torrance's. At least 3 meals a day for 5 to 6 months requires a lot of food, especially considering the road to the hotel is impassible for most the winter.
@@memorra Yes, and a lot of it seems already freezer-burned. None of it is properly packaged, and certainly not dated. Finally, the roads aren't impassible, surely, for more than a week or so at a time, so they can get supplies inbetween. So, they still have to eat their way through 40 six-month-old frozen chickens? That's two a week!
I love that the "All work and no play" scene has paragraphs, different spacings, etc like he actually thought he was writing a story.
And the typos in a few of the sentences too make it seem realistic
I have been wondering about that recently. I am wondering if Jack actually did right something, but the "hotel" changed it to that once sentence, only for Wendy.
Best part of the movie!
Why did Jermey add sins for when jack said he would sell his soul for a glass of beer? 7:56
@@potato7617It was just a joke about how that line contains actual real life sins.
That ACTUAL sin set in the motion the rest of the movie, and I've never noticed it! "I'd give my soul for a goddamn beer."
His soul is now trapped in the hotel because he wanted booze, and ultimately sold his soul to the hotel just to get it. His addiction resulted in his own demise.
And some people say that the bartender was actually the devil ready to claim his soul after he said it.
@@albertoguerra3995 That's...a very interesting point.
The bartender even says that jack's 'credit is fine', prob cuz he paid with his soul
Ever notice how there are no smoking signs everywhere in the hotel. When the characters start smoking everything starts going wrong.
That was actually the core of Stephen King's novel, addiction. That's one of the reasons that he didn't like this film adaptation, because Kubrick downplayed that aspect of it.
I love how the sin counter is a character now
Lol
Lugnut vs. Games I don’t
Lugnut vs. Games yep
Of course it is. It even died one time.
@@dbzgotmadness dont disrespect Sinny like that
I always loved how the architecture is purposefully wrong across the movie. Kubrick made sure that characters were filmed walking down halls that, when you map them out, are actually physically impossible
I noticed that too. But that aside, I would personally love having a mansion to myself in the mountains in a rural area for 6 months, the space, the freedom, the peace. Something about the combination of big house and rural area is something that's ideal to me. I can garentee that I will not lose my sanity staying there. I can only see myself feeling better from it
@@alvexok5523 oh ho ho how about a pandemic extends your stay
+Sunprism Goodness, that is creepy. It's such a liminal void. The Overlook Hotel was so Backrooms before the Backrooms were even a thing.
@@alvexok5523 hence, the "impossible window "
Yeah, and honestly, it was a dumb and pointless move. Nobody picks up on that shit while watching a movie -- not even subconsciously. Kubrick just looooooves being pretentious.
Jack Nicholson's eyebrows deserved an Oscar on their own!
@Batman it grows back
The film is not that bad!!!
King apparently didn't like Nicholson being cast cause he didn't want the guy's descent into madness to be obvious from the start.
Plot Twist: The eyebrows are Jack Nicholson.
Tim Beaton hahahahah SIN
Additional sin: Jack is told he has "always been the caretaker" and that's what he was hired to do, but the only person you ever actually see taking care of the hotel is Wendy.
Yeah, that kinda bugs me.
They could've at least shown something at at least talk about it.
Even in the beginning when everything was still okay he straight up talks about finishing his writing and no mention on maintaining the house at all.
Kubrik's movies are always about imagination, he only shows what is important and let the audience imagine what it really is. Maybe Jack is pissed off cause of that, Wendy's now taking Jack's 'Job', so that's what pissed him off and made him kill his family.
To support your theory is to take the mirror image of "opposition" to be what Stanley Kubrick wants us to psychology see: Before Wendy has a kitchen knife she swings a bat (primitive stereotypical weapon of caveman). She uses the bat to knock Jack out after finding out "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." Opposite: All=No , work=play so play=work, "and"="or" like in Boolean logic, no=all, Jack=Wendy, a dull=a sharp (where "a" can't also be a word opposite "not a" but to reference one particular singular Jack and then Wendy person in this case), boy=girl (notice the word makes assumed the border mirror cutoff or equal of left and right mirror images sign) -----> The mirror image now is "No play or all work makes Wendy a sharp girl." Notice the Boolean logic implies Wendy could have played when she wasn't all working. This then shows she moves from stereotypical wife weaponry from bat to knife also as her mind sharpens from all work without having no play. Jack moves from fist to lumberjack or fire axe as a sharp instrument held by a stick like a bat (stereotypical caveman weaponry that similarly native Indians also used) to be used for destruction and combat and death and hunt parallels (as cutting trees does as does fires so fire axe more the weapon). When Jack wants to destroy the family Wendy is sharp in wisdom to flee to the bathroom allowing the son to escape in a plan of luring Jack away from Wendy to maintain "Brady correction order of: When the girls tried to burn down the hotel I corrected them ... When my wife tried to interfere I corrected her also." Notice also the parallel of Grady, a survivor but wife and twin girls destroyed by axe in plan to destroy hotel in fire. The opposite would have "two twins" now an opposite mirror reflection of "one wife" being "two non twins (and adult woman and child boy opposite)" and "one Mr. Holleran (who dies by non-correction means explained later)" with "husband alive killer" now "husband dead killer" opposite mirror word play. Mr. Holloran died? Or was it considered a sacrifice (mirror image of death and life) like the many Indian relics representing Overlook Hotel's symbolism of spiritualism resulting from, as an actual byproduct mirror image to the Rich and Elite's teaching of "White Man's Burden - civilizing the dull or not sharp natives stereotypical to caveman!"
I mean it's kinda obvious why that is so how is it sin-worthy? He's not doing any true caretaking because he's busy losing his mind, and Grady is using the word "caretaker" as something metaphorical and much greater than the face-value definition of the word. He clearly doesn't actually care whether or not Jack does a single thing he was hired to do; he's just a ghost. And that's just an explanation for the story that appears to take place. Once you see the movie for what it is, it's even easier to justify that with the fact that Wendy is a paranoid schizophrenic, as Rob pointed out a couple comments above.
@@lawrencejelsma8118 What kind of drugs are you on and how can I find them?
I still cannot believe that Shelley Duvall was nominated for worst actress in this movie. She went through hell during the making of this film to the point where her hair started falling out from stress. Her performance is both mesmerizing and terrifying. She deserved better.
Right? The fact that they rescinded her nomination doesn’t changed how shitty they were for doing that in the first place.
I'm pretty sure that the people in charge of the Razzies can't watch anything sincerely. Anything slightly unconventional is just a potential cheap joke.
She was perfectly cast even if she drove Kubrick nutty.
I didn't know that. So unfair. I felt her fear when watching the movie and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Stanley Kubrick was purposely stressing her out and being mean to her during production as filming went on, because he felt it would get her into character more, considering she becomes more and more stressed throughout the movie.
The entire time Jack goes up the stairs slowly chasing wendy he doesn't blink at all.
It’s confirmed!! He’s a lizard person
@@Pisolithus you mean a Democrat? because I am one so I am now wondering if I am a lizard person that just does not know it.
@@KilrInstkX lol
Ghosts do not blink
lloyd the bartender barely blinks too! i think kubrick put it in to create another layer of creepiness
I wish that Hal9000 had refused to give one of the sins and said "I'm sorry, Jeremy, I'm afraid I can't do that."
Open the pod bay door hal
What a missed opportunity
What a missed opportunity
That would take acting
What a missed opportunity
“Come play with us Danny...”
(Daintily) Peer pressure.
😂😂😂
One of my all time favorite movies, like the Spielberg version, too, and so full of sins :) Thank u Cinemasins for the analysis and great execution as always!
What guy wouldnt like be asked that by identical twins
i always thought the "tuesday" stuff was to show REAL cabin fever. We dont know how long its been for them for a while, then all of a sudden ITS TUESDAY! this quarantine taught me that.. just how much the DAY of the week doesnt matter.
It was, to add to the Uneasiness of the film, you get random times and says
I got a laughing fit reading your comment. Thanks! Exactly!
Yeah, I just watched The Shining again while in lockdown and the aspect of isolation and loss of sense of time hits differently.
@@carmellasofo8337 is a
@@DerMoerpler moreover, it was 80s, so no internet, very limited tv, no small portable devices to play or pass time or entertain, moreover I didn't saw a library or books in any scene of the hotel. I can't even imagine what would anyone would experience when going through 6 months of 0 form of entertainment or pass time
To be fair to Dick Hallorann, his arrival and attempt to help might seem worthless but he actually kinda *does* still save the day. Jack was right there with an axe, Wendy cornered with nowhere to go, then Hallorann arrives and diverts Jack’s attention, gives Wendy time to escape.
Also gave them a working snowmobile
Why didn’t Jack just chop up wendy than Dick than Danny
Hallorann was a sacrifice for Wendy & Danny basically.
So Wendy's life was more valuable than his 🤔
@@mariahyohannes This is a really fucking strange way to interpret what I've said. Almost like you're looking to bait someone in to an argument. No thank you.
I like how as Jack is talking to Grady about him killing his kids, the more he denies it, the more sinister Jack becomes, then in turn eventually Grady becomes more sinister in the convo, almost as if the hotel is mirroring Jack in a sense.
Rewatch that scene. Jack never looks at Grady. Jack is looking at his reflection in the mirror the entire time he's "talking" to Grady.
The metaphor is every generation in this country has sold out their children's inheritance of a pristine landscape to a trash filled after-party by choosing a more hedonistic lifestyle than the generation before. Each generation blames the other for the inevitable horror show to come.
A misconception is that Jack randomly goes crazy when other caretakers didn't. This isn't about the haunting. The hotel wants Danny because he has The Shining. This story is about the war between the hotel and Danny. Everyone else was just caught in the crossfire.
This reiterated in the sequel.... it was always Danny’s shine the hotel wanted...
This is why Wendy wanted Danny out of the hotel, but Jack and all the other creepy elements inside the hotel didnt allow them to.
There's an interesting theory about how Jack has latent shining abilities that were suppressed on the count of his alcoholism. But since he's been sober theyve been slowly coming back, hence why he and Danny were the only ones to interact with the ghosts until the climactic ending
What about Dick? Doesn't he have the exact same ability? Is it because he's already aware of the danger of the hotel and would be harder to possess?
@@davidgn40 I believe this was also covered in the sequel as they went after the kids, not just because they were more naive but because their shine was pure and stronger so Dick wasn’t a real target bc he knew how to protect himself from the hotel…
I always thought the ending was obvious. Jack sold his soul for a drink, and now he's bound to the hotel, hell, for eternity.
Sub Zippo I thought it was because of something with the one guy saying jack was always the caretaker
I just love things - endings, in particular - in movies that are open to interpretation.
whoa....
Me too. Thought it was obvious but I'm weird.
Jack’s history of violence is directly tied to alcohol. His most regrettable act of violence was breaking his sons arm while drunk. He never actually gets a drink. The hotel just used what it needed to lead him towards the ultimate violence, murder.
Jack was brought there to fill a role only instead of being the caretaker his role was to continue the vicious murders that feed the hotel it’s evil psychic energy.
The alcohol was merely a symbol of Jack succumbing to his violent urges.
He had sworn off drinking to be a better husband and father. The Hotel starts to wear on him and break down his psyche. Essentially him accepting the “drink” is him giving into the evil in himself and being controlled by the evil energies of the Overlook.
He’s in that photo in the end because the hotel has claimed his soul and residual evil energy for itself. (Which is only in the movie btw. The Overlook burns down in the book)
You forgot the sin that bartenders are still upset about to this day. Jack asks Lloyd for bourbon, but Lloyd pours him Jack Daniels, which technically, isn't bourbon.
Interestingly enough in the book. It was Gin
Whiskey all the way.
That's why he says the hair of the dog that bit me,most whiskey songs are of hellish troubles
Yeah but it's funny if you think about it, serving Jack Daniels to Jack, who' sons called Danny
Maybe it is meant to point to the connection between jack and Danny
Everyone says "Heres Johnny" But no one asks "Hows Johnny" :(
Or what is Johnny
@@thatsthetea4772 It's a reference to Johnny Carson's intro at The Tonight Show.
The Joker I know
@@newlyborncorn That's why I placed quotation marks.
@@MrNirvanana Yes, I know. Wait, were you notified when I replied to Tabitha? That's so weird!
In all seriousness, the thing I never really bought into was how quickly Jack went from normal guy to homicidal maniac. Nicholson's performance, as touched on in this vid, was so over the top to begin with that he never seemed like just a normal, healthy everyman.
As evidenced by the "Saw it on the television..." line while driving to the hotel.
He was never a normal guy (at least not in the book). He always had anger management issues (when he broke Dani's arm or when he almost killed an student) even when he was younger (he used to kick dogs from the streets to release his anger). He was also weak, he need alcohol more than anything. Because Jack was already pretty damaged (he had a really bad childhood), it was easy to break him and make him go crazy. The Overlook had break other men, the hotel takes advantage of broken people to make them loose their mind and kill their family, they explain it all in the book (haven't seen the movie yet). Maybe Stanley should have take more time for Jack's development as a character, when he first arrived to the hotel he was doing pretty well!
Stephen King said that he didn't like Jack Nicholson performance in terms that he played a crazy person restricting himself. In his book it is a loving father and husband that descents to craziness. www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-real-reason-stephen-king-despises-the-movie-version-of-the-shining.html/
@@helenastarlight2108 No in the book he was
@@mariaathena7910 To some degree. He was a "normal guy" on the surface but he was clearly battling a drinking problem and haunted by the memory of the night he ran over a kid plus he did yank Dannys arm out of its socket while mad.
Jeremy on Bear suit guy: “is this supposed to be scary?”
Dude, it’s freaking terrifying.
William Rhenquist I thought the same thing! I nearly screamed when I saw this the first time
*Furries are terrifying in general.*
William Rehnquist- I agree; the bear suit thing freaked me out!
Bear suit made me question and jump
dude i’m not even kidding you, it’s the ONLY part of the movie that legitimately freaks me out. i had to skip over that part in the video because that scene just gives me so many chills.
Danny riding the big wheel has always been one of my favorite scenes ever. Just so satisfying and original.
"Scene contains no CGI topiary animals."
Brilliant.
Is this a reference to the novel or something that I missed?
@@vollsticks I think it was referencing a remake made for TV a couple of years ago...
@@vollsticks The book definitely did have moving animal topiaries though.
The moving animal topiaries were a really big part of the book
God that mini series was painful. That kid was like a bug at a bbq...
I feel like one sin should be Wendy admitting to the doctor that her husband broke her sons arm, and the doctor doing nothing. Doctors are mandated reporters, she should have called CPS.
I feel like mandated reporting wasn't around in the early 80's but I could be wrong. Although I went to school with kids that were being obviously abused and the school never reported it and it was in that time frame. But whether mandated or not she should have called CPS anyway IMO.
I agree. I always feel uncomfortable for her when she almost giggles at the story.."oh u know just one of those things..he injured Dannys arm"...HUGE SMILE ON HER FACE
He did it by accident, he didn't intentionally hit him, he yanked him out of the way and didn't realise his own strength
There’s actually a very interesting interpretation to this theme of the movie by Rob Ager (Collaterive Learning) that Jack is actually sexually abusing Danny. Under that interpretation the mother is likely in denial
@@ashleyd3329 It's a clearly nervous smile, done on purpose to try to get that doctor to mimic her fake "happiness" over the awful thing that she's relaying instead of becoming angry and concerned
Cinemasins: Today, we're doing a Stanley Kubrick film
Sin counter: No.
Sin counter: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
CinemaSins: No.
Ding
No. I don't think I will.
Props to Shelly duval. This role took a piece of her 💔
I was so devastated when she was voted "worst actress of all time" like what? This role caused her to get more counciling then she was already having, her hair was falling out due to stress and she was struggling to keep food down during so much of filming
Please do “The Shawshank Redemption” soon love to see what you will do
YES! Andy wanted a rock hammer before he knew he could tunnel out. When was he ever going to use that rock hammer? No way he could use it in the yard without being caught!
@@riverotter68 he wanted a rock hammer because he was a rock hound and wanted to build his own chess pieces remember? Moron
@Thor Odinson no.... just no.
@Thor Odinson think its probably a tad overrated but its still a fantastic film
Patrick Osborne 1,000 sins removed at the beginning of the video.
"enough kool-aid for a cult" that was sneaky and dark. i love it
Ross Eastaugh I was scrolling to see if someone caught this like I did I just learned about that cult in school
I caught that too. Sneaky, sneaky CinemaSins.
Okay, but it was actually flavoraid 👌🏻
Since when would a Kool-Aid joke be "sneaky"?
@@josephfisher426 There was a cult in the 70s that drank poisoned Kool-Aid when their leader told them to.
Jack's eyebrows are the true villain of The Shining.
Anna Dayton it’s like the balding version of steve harrington’s haircut
Dang I want to like but it’s 222 so... what do I do?!
@@bestiesplayz6866 Do it! Do it! Oh wait it's 227 now so eh.
Everytime he raises his eyebrows, his joker pops up in my head
Steven Ross yes
I like to think that Jack’s wallet was empty in the first bar scene when he wanted a beer and then the second scene he imagined he had money because he’s imagining that he’s in a fully functioning bar with people so part of the delusion is he has money and alcohol
I agree. It's part of his illusion of it being just another 'fun night out' at the Overlook when NO ONE IS THERE!! 👻👻👻👻
Apparently Stephen King didn't want Jack Nicholson cast in the movie because he felt like he didn't have the ability to make the character go from straight and narrow family man to full on crazy.
And he was right. At no point in any film is Jack not full crazy.
The beauty of the Shining is that Nicholson's character already has very human flaws that become magnified to the point of insanity by the effects of isolation. The character arc is beautiful because it is believable with or without believing in "ghosts."
Exactly. The movie doesnt convey the eerie progression of the book.
@@factbeaglesarebest Kubrick's Shining conveys a very eerie progression that is artfully, ingeniously precise. I haven't read King's Shining, but what little I have read from King is wordy, sloppy, disorganized, unfocused, poorly edited stream of consciousness stuff, the literary equivalent of TV or junk food.
@@factbeaglesarebest It is much more believable that Jack's insanity grows out of his normal human flaws. That way it is hard to tell whether he is really going crazy or just experiencing stress until it's too late. Real people are never entirely "straight and narrow."
I dont think Cinema Sins has been this forgiving since Pulp Fiction
You forgot Us
Ayush Khandelwal I don’t think it hit this amount
@@kahlilpittman8404 CinSin removes at least 30 sins from Us. That is the most I have ever seen.
They really like Star Trek Beyond.
Ikr
Dear CinemaSins!
I have read The Shining just recently, and I have to say Kubrick did a masterpiece of trying to sort out the key moments out of the tangled mess the book is. There are so much material and so many references that the movie should have been 4 hours long. Due to this, you made about 15 errors in your sin tally, as Kubrick simply followed the book to the letter at some moments, while omitting many interim stages, so it seems out of logic, while it actually is quite logical.
For example, at 0:40 you ask who the fuck are the people in Denver? Jack's friend is one of the directors of the board of the hotel, and he recommended Jack for the job. Why did Kubrick omit to mention this? we don't know, but the phrase is perfectly sensible.
at 3:50 you ask why they stocked the freezer full of meat for the winter? THESE WERE THE SUPPLIES FOR THE CARETAKER FAMILY FOR 6 MONTHS, not for the whole hotel. 12 turkeys and 40 chickens won't feed a hotel full of guests for a week, not to say for a month.
at 7:00 you discuss that the hotel should have had lots of caretakers, not just Jack and Grady. WRONG. The hotel was always shut for the winter, which caused it to freeze on the inside and the structural damage had to be repaired each spring, which caused huge expenses. This is the reason they tried to instate a caretaker position - to warm the building up in the winter and do small repairs to minimize the cost of the refurbishing in the spring. They tried with Grady first, and after the slaughter, the hotel was closed for several years. so THERE NEVER WERE WINTER CARETAKERS THERE.
at 8:35 - Jack stopped drinking heavily 3 years ago when he hurt Danny and broke his arm. He was drunk just once, after he lost his job 5 months ago, due to publicly beating the shit out of a cocksusker student, who cut the tires of his car. Jack was fired, got drunk, sobered up and never drank a drop for the next 5 months.
at 10:15 -- Dick had just enough Shine to talk telepathically to someone in the same room. Danny had enough Shine to reach Dick across several states. Compare the cell battery power with a nuclear plant. Could Dick reach Danny back the same way? Definitely not!
As for the reasons for the hotel to be evil and why Grady took some long time to free Jack - Danny's SHINE powers up the hotel and makes its ghosts real. SHINE does not work, while Danny is asleep. Grady appeared only when Danny awoke. It was written in the book and can be deduced from the movie.
at 15:35 the reason for the desire to kill Danny is that the hotel wants Danny to become a ghost here, as then the SHINE will always be on and the hotel will be alive. Grady said that Jack can join the managerial suite of the hotel, should he solve the situation with Danny. Jack wants to be immortal and live in this hotel forever, so his primary goal is to kill Danny now, not Wendy. Wendy is nothing but a nuisance.
A great sin analysis, good sirs, but I have to admit you overreacted quite a lot of times. However, this movie still did not get 180+ sins like some others, so thanks for a job well done, gentlemen!
Bogdan Leshenko - As a die hard Stephen King fan myself, and an even bigger fan of this book, you sir deserve many more likes for this breakdown and correction. I know I’m like 4 months late, but I’m here. And I appreciate you.
lmao yeah but cinemasins is more of a comedy channel than a review channel
The book is not a mess. Take it back.
This movie is a mess.
@@ivangordy8957 i like the movie better than the book
For fucks sake! How long did it take u to write this?! You are a god!
A couple of things you've criticized in the video actually make perfect sense:
The shining is hereditary. Dick Halloran mentions this in his conversation with Danny. Jack has it too, but he has repressed it/is unaware of it and his powers are nowhere near as strong as his son's. Whenever a character "shines" in the movie, a high-pitched ringing sound is played. This sound also plays whenever Jack is staring into space. His powers and his fucked-up mental state is why the hotel has such an easy time influencing him. Jack coming across as unhinged during the car ride to the Overlook is not an inconsistency, Kubrick has confirmed in interviews that by the time Jack arrives at the hotel, he is already mentally prepared to annihilate his family. He is an abusive alcoholic, an unsuccessful author, he has a strained relationship with his wife and son and is unable to hold down a job. He pretty much has no redeeming qualities.
This is not really explained in the movie, but in the novel it is mentioned that if a person dies at the hotel, their spirit is absorbed by it. It targets shiners to amplify its paranormal activity by absorbing their powers. Dick Halloran and Danny/Tony are pretty much safe because they understand what the Overlook is and therefore cannot be manipulated by it. Wendy doesn't have the shining so she doesn't see anything strange until the very end. Jack has the shining and is extremely mentally unstable, so he's an easy target. The hotel's main goal is to get him to kill Danny because he is the strongest shiner. The hotel goes bonkers after Halloran's death because his powers were absorbed, increasing the paranormal activity to a point where even Wendy can see it. Jack is in the picture in the end because his spirit has also been absorbed by the Overlook. The reason why none of the other caretakers besides Grady have become homicidal might have been because none of them possessed the shining and therefore couldn't be manipulated.
'This is not really explained in the movie' - well if you have complicated, abstract ideas and make no effort to explain them, it's not going to be a great film. It's easy to explain things outside the film in a couple of paragraphs. Good filmmaking would be to make it so people could work these things out without saying them explicitly. This film doesn't do that.
@keithwellerlounge74 Imagine not only thinking you need to be spoonfed everything like an infant but that The Shining isn't a great movie because you lack the ability to interpret on your own. Get your clown ass outta here
Sin Counter: IGHT IMMA HEAD OUT
Hal 9000: IGHT IMMA HEAD IN
Ight,imma head in,Dave.
The fact that little Danny wasnt home schooled or went to school clearly explains why he cant spell MURDER correctly...right?...right?
His drunken daddy broke his arm.
@@skylx0812 He did not. It was just a momentary loss of muscular coordination. ;)
he spells it backwards because he does it while being controlled by his ghost friend tony, so if you want to blame anyone, blame him.
@@margegarland7635 well Marge thanks for getting all serious and real, i was joking with my comment
Marge Garland - Tony isn’t a ghost. :P
“main character in stephen king story is a writer cliche” FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED
Why are you so full of Misery? It's not like you could Stand By Me on that statement.
Stephen King can verify that he was writing mostly about himself when he wrote this book.
He knows himself better than anyone else
ur dumb as fuck
@@Tkieron He just wants to show off his Dark Half. Maybe IT was just how he is.
I’ve looked up what the image at the end meant. Kubrick said that it suggests that it’s a reincarnation of Jack, meaning that Jack’s soul is trapped at the hotel and is eventually dragged back when his soul escapes
I don't see this as a definitive statement. As you said, he says it "suggests" but not that's what it in fact is.
No TV and no beer make Homer something something.
Go crazy?
Marge: go crazy?
Homer: don't mind if I do!
Darragh Hynes “don’t mind if I do!” 🤪
Doh!!
Don't mind if I do!
All sinning and no play makes Sin guy something something...
Go crazy?
Indiana Johns DONT MIND IF I DOOOOOO
Nice Simpsons reference lol
This comment thread pleases me greatly
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One theory I heard says that the pantry is actually the portal to the ghost side of the hotel. The clue is supposedly that, at the start of the movie, they enter the pantry and the door swings one way but when they exit, it swings the other, showing they've entered the mirror dimension.
I just thought they all had the Shining and didn't know it and were seeing things whist panicking
@@rhedded Yo that makes perfect sense!
That was just Stanley Kubrick. He did mind fucks the entire film.
The real sin goes to the director, for making the actress redo the “Crazy” scene with Jack over & over, until her acting became real 😳
He made them all go a batty. Great director
In _Eyes Wide Shut,_ there's a scene where Nicole Kidman's character looks like she had been up all night crying. She was asked in an interview how she achieved that look, and she said, "By literally staying up all night and crying."
At another point in the movie, Tom Cruise's character has a very believable emotional breakdown. That wasn't acting. Kubrick had made him do the scene so many times that he had an actual emotional breakdown.
Stanley Kubrick never went for half-measures.
A director who knows how to get what he wants
@@xAntBizzle Nah, he's just a power hungry joooo that makes shit movies. This one is shit too.
@@ZakRios333 "Great director" is such a convenient excuse for the long history of powerful men abusing women in Hollywood.
6:20 I think I can actually provide an answer to this sin. In Stephen King's novel, Jack finds a scrap book about the horrific history of The Overlook which kind of acts as a stepping stone on his path to his insanity. Although not explicitly explained in the film, this book on his desk in Kubrick's adaptation always struck me as that very scrap book described at length in Stephen King's novel, or at very least an homage to the original idea of the scrapbook from the novel
I agree. There was a deleted scene in the film where jack looks through the overlook history book.
The prop used is in a gallery somewhere you can go and see it along with the other props. Except inside it has clippings from news articles around the time they changed the gold standard and not the history of The Overlook. Don’t really know what this detail means or what it was going to be used for but I thought it was interesting.
There doesn't even have to be that kind of explanation for it in the movie. Jack is pretending to write in order to keep up the facade of his sanity, for the sake of Wendy (and the audience, of course). It makes complete sense that he would have research materials on his desk to make it more convincing.
"Even for the 80s, that is massively unsafe." The Shining might have been released in 1980, but it's 100% a 70s movie. The 80s hadn't even begun to happen yet.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Like the first year of every decade is exactly like the decade that came before... Damn I hope that made sense lol.
The decade starts at 1 and ends at 0. That's a decade for you.
There is a "cultural attitude" that "bleeds" into the next decade as the decades change over.
It is not like a decade has an on/off switch
The movie took 2 years to shoot, released in 1980 so it means it was shot in 1978-79 then.
The chair wasn’t a continuity error, Kubrick did that many times throughout the film to emphasize the idea that they are all going crazy in the hotel.
Or that the hotel was haunted, or both idk
Madison Stephens Like the part at the beginning where Jack meets the hotel manager for his job interview. The manager’s office has a window with an outside view where there couldn’t possibly be an outside view. It’s subtle enough that people don’t know what’s wrong but they sense that something doesn’t quite make sense.
@@daerdevvyl4314 it's the same idea with the corridors during Danny's tricycle ride.
Madison Stephens check me out! I’m a violinist
Oh, the old "God works in mysterious ways"-argument. Everything is perfect, and if something isn't perfect, it's intentionally imperfect, so that it is perfect.
The "Tuesday" mark foreshadows that, in less than a week, everything will go bananas.
Up to this point, the film has been quoting unspecific periods:
- "the interview", suggesting there's been a previous interaction for a job opportunity that is now being brought to completion;
- "closing day", suggesting some time passed between the interview and the Torrances finally moving into the hotel.
That the story turns oddly specific on time periods after the "one month later" mark implies that _someone_ or _something_ is keeping a vague record of what's going to happen, and they're _losing their patience;_ or better yet (as some others have suggested): they're _losing count in exasperation._
The Shining “twins”, both in the book and the movie the characters weren’t twins but sisters, but they casted identical twins for the roles
They don't look identical to me. I could tell those two apart. One's even slightly taller than the other. Pause the close ups & see what I mean.
@@redlinemando Except Lisa and Louise Burns, the actresses who played the Grady Sisters, are identical twins in real life. They are not twins in the book or the film.
jdcrowe82 god damn “identity twins” aren’t identical in every way you dumb fuck. It just means they developed from a single zygote. Everything after that can change their appearances to be pretty different
Harmony Kapsley NOTHING in a Kubrick film is an accident.
It could have been some sort of "psychic dyad" effect that made them identical after their murder.
WHO KNOWS what Kubrick was thinking? Only Kubrick did.
@@Ocrilat Well that's a questionable point. The dialogue expressly SAYS they were 2 years apart (expressly saying they were "8 and 10, years old" rather than saying "he killed his wife and two little girls," like someone normally would); but they appear to DANNY as identical twins.
It's not like Kubrick would deliberately cast identical twins, after expressly setting them two years apart, without some cinematic purpose.
Kubrick is simply beyond the comprehension of CinemaSins, who call out MISTAKES; but Kubrick inserted these intentionally.
Shelley Duvall grew up in Texas. When she speaks with a twang she's slipping up and using her own accent. As a native Texan myself, I can hear hints of a twang in her pronunciation of vowels throughout the film.
People can have different accents than their region.
I grew up in Ohio, but my younger brother developed a Rastafarian accent because we got a Jamaican housekeeper.
@@SovereignStatesman Oh for sure. But there's no backstory in either the novel or the script indicating Wendy grew up with a housekeeper from Texas or anything like that. And Shelley Duvall's twang (which is pretty authentic) is evident in films other than the Shining.
@@SovereignStatesman Shelley is Texan, no mistaking the authenticity to her twang, Hollywood be damned. Probably a reason Kubrick and his cronies gave her nonstop shit too.
@@231-isntthisalotoffun4 Her parents could have been Texans.
@@joepermenter7228 Yeah like he gave shit to Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove.
Oh wait...
Wendy's parents could have been Texan, it doesn't matter. People pick up different dialects.
The point is that Kubrick only cared about ONE THING:
THE MOVIE. He knew that everything else was temporary, but the MOVIE WAS FOREVER.
He tricked George C. Scott into playing a comedy role in Dr. Strangelove: Scott NEVER KNEW that it was a comedy, until the movie came out! He was FURIOUS, and swore NEVER to work for Kubrick ever again. And then there's Darth Prowse, who Kubrick made carry Pat McGee down flights of stairs in a wheelchair six times, so he'd LOOK furious at Malcom McDowell, because Kubrick knows that's it's similar on film, and he gave Prowse THICK GLASSES for the scene so that you couldn't see his eyes.
So he naturally drove Shelly crazy so that she'd give the right vibe on screen, which is why The Shining was the scariest movie ever.
Could've also [un]-sinned Kubrick for the Guiness Book Record for most number of re-takes of that iconic stair scene. I mean congrats, but it also led to a nervous breakdown for actress Duvall... Her hair fell out & everything! That's also why that scene is so emotionally powerful, Duvall really WAS at her wits end!
Just a stair scene. Nothing iconic about it.
@@michael65 nah
Yeah, I think Duvall went mental after this movie. Kubricks idea of 'get the actor upset and you will get more out of them' direction technique was too much for this movie. Kubrick is my favorite director, but he fuc'd with Shelley unecessarily IMO, she had a tough role!!!!
'It has to be real!' -Kubrick
Kubrick was a terrible person.
Apparently jack Nicholson had gone through fire fighter training and kept obliterating the door with just a few hits to the point that they had to use a whole bunch of doors and get him to purposefully slow down and hit the door wrong. So no one's fault really the Actor was just even more of a legend than is commonly known.
Pretty sure they used a real door in the end
As to the money thing. He didn't have money the first time when he was still sort of connected to reality. When he goes back he is losing his grip and in his fantasy world of course he has cash.
It’s also after he sold his soul and makes him connected to the hotel
But then why was he imagining the bartender in the first place if he was connected to reality?
@@saahilthakkar4593 he was bordering between both... he was still in reality but the hotel was starting to show its hand to him... when he returns to the bar he’s invested in the hotels reality.
@@carmellasofo8337 he sold his soul?
@@brookeweeks7213 Yeah money is no good there.
A SIN on Cinema Sins' Original Sin: At 8:22 Why did you doubt Wendy's fact when Jack is literally disclosing that "3 years ago" remark to a ghost? If anything, JACK is the one lying about the 3 years ago element. He's trying to put distance between his current self and that violent behavior, but we know the truth, that he lies on the verge of a violent mental break. In fact, in a sense, this IS the moment where the mental break occurs. He hasn't knowingly interacted with the spirit of the Overlook until this point.
Sinning the "Here's Johnny" scene. That's a sin.
I’m already Sans Undertale easily a negative ten sins. Iconic scene is iconic.
I don't understand why he says "Here's Johnny", when his name is Jack.
Here's Jacky!
@@EarlOfMaladyCrescent It was a reference to the intro to the Johnny Carson Show
*ding*
I love how the sin counter decided, "Hey screw it I'm not sinning a Kubrick film, so I'm going to grab a beer for the next 20 minutes and let my cousin Hal do all the leg work!"
When he forgets people need to eat over 6 months
Yeah, like that guy was just showing her all the chicken to be like "look at all this fuckin' chicken we have that you cant touch"
Hope you packed a big cooler in that VW....it’s a long winter.
Eleanor Hise Weren’t they trapped in the hotel because of the snow? So they couldn’t go to a market and buy food, also if they could go out to a market it wouldn’t be complete isolation from everyone else
Eleanor Hise umm... have you even seen the movie? No. They cannot go to the market and buy food.
@@Jewls2 They COULD go into town, using the snow-cat; but it would take a long time.
They simply had to stay at the hotel to keep everything running, and they had plenty of food to last the winter.
The movie made a big issue of this, with the chef (Scatman Cruthers) telling Shelly Duvall about meals during the winter, and how they could eat a different meal every time, with all the different food they had in the kitchen.
So to think the movie ignored the issue of food, is like missing the issue about lifeboats in "Titanic."
Fun Fact: In the maze scene all of the snow is actually salt.
Rip all the slugs in that scene
not all of it, the one falling from the sky was crushed styrofoam
That’s a lot of salt
That scene was really worth its... *salt*
What a gigantic waste of salt.
"That is entirely too much Kool-Aid..." Somebody didn't grow up in the 70s...
There was NEVER enough Kool-aid! I like the green!
Damn right, I was like Bruh...they have a kid. They probably bought enough to last them a while so they don't have to spend more money every time they take him to the store.
No. There's secret theme with the Kool-Aid thing. It only appears whenever the "shining" power is talked about or when supernatural things happen.
He was making a joke about Jonestown
OK BOOMER
One of the funny things about the helicopter establishing shots is how hard it was to not show the gas station and town walking distance from the hotel. I stayed there once, it's really pretty and, kind of unfortunately, really not spooky or scary
The hotel in the opening shot is not actually the hotel they filmed the rest of the movie at, hence the hedge maze continuity errors
Actually, it's simple. Jack Nicholson's character is in the picture because he's now one of the ghosts haunting the hotel.
Jack Torrance is actually the reincarnation of the man in that picture, which is why he tells Wendy he feels like he's been in the hotel before and that he loves it there, knows the bartender and one of the servants in the movie. The hotel has the power to bring in reincarnations of the past souls to kill their families
@Scott Doty Um yes
@Scott Doty yeah go ahead and say that to everyone else who thinks otherwise. Fuck off trying to talk shit behind a screen
@Scott Doty Here's a video of Kubrick saying it's reincarnation: th-cam.com/video/px7Lq68Yvvw/w-d-xo.html. Stop trying to argue with people above your skill level and do some research.
@Scott Doty what is your problem?! They just gave another interpretation to the movie which btw make much more sense.
No beer and no tv make homer something something..
"Go crazy?"
DON'T MIND IF I DO!
-go-
Best comment lol
@@HottChoc619 But he got the quote wrong.
*break glass in case of spousal insanity*
@@UnitSe7en Go make a complaint to your local Ready Player One pedantic nerd club.
“The people in Denver” Ullman talks about is Jack’s best friend Al Shockley who’s trying to get him a job after he got fired from teaching for beating up one of his students
Yes, someone else explained it! Glad I didn't have to.
Wasn't in the movie therefore it doesn't count
ChiBae it’s still an interesting part of the story that people should know. Later in the movie Jack is wearing a Stovington shirt where he and Al lived so I say if it’s part of the story it is part of the movie
th-cam.com/video/qvkZ8sCd5EI/w-d-xo.html (Everything Wrong with CinemaSins) @1:40
Just our little tidbits for more context. We know they don't matter to them, but they may matter to other viewers.
Thanks ya pointed out a few things I didn’t notice… all though 90% of the findings weren’t done by mistake. The film itself is a giant maze still mostly undiscovered.
One of the most mysterious, captivating, & greatest movies of all time!
“Hmm, that’s odd. The blood usually gets off at the second floor” 😁
Urge to kill rising.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
the “and zuul” made me burst out laughing
So are we all just gonna ignore the fact he sinned "here's Johnny"?
@Emily Gilbert that’s debatable
@@oldmanmartin7066 do you have to be... corrected???
@@BlighterProductions I was thinking more
Along the lines of DANNY!
It’s still the most famous line from the movie, undebatably.
@Emily Gilbert I agree
Its explained more in the book. Danny's 'Shine' is so powerful, the ghosts somehow become real because of it... it doesn't go into as much detail about the Grady's... but its more or less eluded to being the same or similar cause, that one or more of the Grady's had 'Shine' themselves, which the hotel, which includes the ghosts inhabiting it again could become 'real' and influence the real world. The book also talks about other times, people would see a ghost or something, because a lot of people have a little 'shine' to them, but it wouldn't go much further than seeing the hedge animals move, which would have been a nice addition, if done right, or seeing the ghosts from the corner of their eye...
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1980: “Here’s Johnny!”
2019: “Hello there!”
I have a high ground
1980: Jack Nicholson.
2019: Ewan McGregor.
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5:50 As the movie goes on, the time stamps get smaller, like a countdown, starting with the interview, jumping a month, then transitioning to specific days of the week, then to times during those days. This is to make the views psychologically feel more claustrophobic because we are aware that there must be something that the countdown is counting-down to.
7:40 "Here's Jeremy" had me dying. Jeremy you are a legend.
Jack Torrence is a teacher; he was supposed to be homeschooling him.
*was a teacher
In the book,
Jack Torrance was an English literature teacher in Stovington before he was fired for giving one of his students a concussion.
At the Overlook, Danny was being taught to read and write because (i) He was interested in reading the signs Tony kept showing him and (ii) His dad promised him that if he could do the worksheets/reading, he would help him put together the toy VW.
Fun fact, my uncle was one of the 4 finalists in the audition to play Danny.
I met Danny and the Twins at a horror convention. The bartender gave me a mulligan. I ordered a beer turned around and the twins were standing there! I dropped my beer, looked all sad for a second, and the bartender gave me another beer for free. He said, "It happens"!
That's cool about your uncle though
@Arnav Despande and also a totally unverified statement made by some random, so i dont know why you bother to beleive them.
@Arnav Despande well im donald trump
@@MaskMcGee prove it, wire me one million dollars
@@rigel1088 shoud've asked for a money printer
5:54 - *C'mon, Jeremy. You should know that Tuesdays are relevant because a new CinemaSins video comes out that day!*
What about wall e
Kubrick: *messes up a scene*
Cinemasins: sin removed
Stephen King would sin the hell out of this movie
Anthony Burgess would sin the hell out of A Clockwork Orange xD
King is just p.o. because more people have seen this movie than read his book.
@@ShannonLee1956 now that is a SAVAGE burn. Kubrick sending a letter to King. "The Shinning is mine now BITCH! Now & Forever"
King said he thought The Shining was a good movie, just not a movie based on his book.
@@RandomDudeOne he's right
This was hilarious. My all time favorite horror film got a proper roasting “urge to kill...rising”
I enjoyed this movie to! I think my favorite section of the movie was the last 30 minutes 👌 hilarious! 😂
Ok boomers
Dick Halloran is actually my favorite character in the books.
Mine too. I really liked Scatman's performance in this, probably my favorite performance in this movie tbh. I also thought that Melvin Van Peebles was good too in the miniseries.
My favorite was jacks father. He was a proper roll model.
I don't know if this is a continuity error or intentional but does anyone notice that the map of the maze actually at the entrance of the maze shows it as being pretty small. But then when Jack is approaching the model of the maze it is much bigger. And finally, when we see the overhead shot of the maze with Wendy and Danny walking in the middle the maze, to me at least, looks three times bigger than the model of the maze that Jack is staring at. I've just done a quick cursory count of the different walls of the maze and it seems from the above view that there are many many more rows. I've got to believe this was done for dramatic effect to just show how much more danger Wendy and Danny are in then they know.
@@fracturenumerique yeah you are right. Lots of technical errors. But they are mostly visible because so many people watch so many of kubricks movies so many times . But that doesn't excuse the errors
I've always hated mazes, and I wouldn't even attempt the Overlook maze
The movie´s biggest sin was Jack Nicholson not even getting an Oscar nomination for his brilliant performance.
He was at like a 7 on the crazy meter throughout most of the movie, when he went full 10 at the end it was great because he played it so well but like the video said, did he even need the hotel to go that crazy? Seems like he was one bad day away from it anyways
This movie even got 2 Razzie nominations (for worst actress and worst director)
I was 8 in 1980 and trailers for horror films (which I wasn't allowed to watch, obviously) absolutely terrified me. I always remember going into Woolworths on a Saturday & looking at the racks of SK books, and other horror novels, too. Great memories.
@@aramisaac4292 are you serious?!?!!!?!?! The mom actress suffered permanent back injury from a stunt the director insisted that she do! PERMANENT DAMAGE!
@@princessthyemis just check IMDb, it is true
Fans: Sin for us Jeremy. Forever and ever and ever.
12:46😂😂
JEREMY: Alright Sinsworth, I need you to do a video for The Shining.
SINSWORTH: ... I'm afraid I can't do that, Jeremy.
"No...I don't think I will"
Sinsworth? Is that supposed to be Sinny's official name lol
@@mitchelvanwijk
I guess so. I heard the name in a previous video & it seems fitting for the "Jarvis" of CinemaSins.
Fun fact: Almost 85% of all horror stories and movies are inspired on things or places in real life, and so is this movie. It is inspired by the Stanley Hotel, wich is currently still open for vacations and ghost tours, complete with hedge maze. And it has free wi-fi!
Really, it seems like one heck of a creepy haunted hotel.
Let's go Scorpio!
Bruh, let's book rooms
You definitely pulled that 85% statistic out of your ass. Anyway, while The Shining was indeed inspired by Stephen King's stay at the Stanley Hotel, it has nothing to do with ghosts. King stayed there right before the hotel closed for the winter and there were no other guests, which creeped him out and gave him the idea for the book. The hotel only tried to sell the "haunted" aspect after the immense popularity of the film. It was never considered haunted before, and obviously ghosts aren't real anyway.
@@amityislandchum I didn't, I think I got it from a youtuber but I'm not entirely sure given that I write this comment a year ago
It’s not haunted at all. There was never a single report of any “hauntings” or supernatural activity there whatsoever until after the movie came out. 🤣 People are just stupid, dramatic and imaginative.
"Role Johnnie's!"
😂😂😂
D'OH!
The only use the word “doc” a couple times in this movie but in Doctor sleep they use it so many times I thought he was an actual doctor
Both the book& movie are already classics and for much the same reason. That 'creep' effect that permeates the book and movie. The big differences are WHAT is causing this overall sense of impending doom
Of dread really. The book achieved this through the relatively new concept of an inanimate object, in this case , a hotel, that takes on a life of it's own & has , over the decades become not just alive but malevolent. This concept is kept in kubricks film as is much more of the novel than you'd think but these things are not what attracted kubrick to the novel but they're still in there, the boiler that ' creeps' is there as are some of the manifestations but Kubrick was fixated on what the real driving force behind all else. A man is going to lose it. A violent man by nature and an even more violennt man when drining. What's really scary and highlights 1 of the main changes between book and film is, unlike the novel where Jack's madness was kind of a slow burn, what's truly fucked up about kubrick s version is not that Jack is, at some point going to go insane & go after his own family, but what's scary about the movie Jack is how long he had already been going insane before he ever even gets to the overlook.
I watched Dr. Sleep once....I honestly don't know if I could watch it again. Not because it was a bad movie.....on the contrary. The Shining is one of my favorite horror films and I thought it a worthy successor. Just that one scene....where they kill the baseball boy, just....traumatized me.
@@CeltycSparrow yeah, it is really hard to watch
Doctor Sleep is a better film than The Shining. Not sure if it's because of the director or the era, but this film is stiff af. DS had actual nyances ans shit.
No sin removal for the iconic "Here's Johnny!" scene!?!
Nope.
Being topical isn't creative.
5 sins were removed at the start, just assume one was for that.
I can't believe the door's bashed hole changed that much from one shot to the next. That's such a big continuity error that it makes me think those things are on purpose like Jeremy mentions, like it's supposed to be messing with the viewer.
I feel you. Should have taken one off for the blood coming out of the elevator doors too. Such an incredible shot and idea.
Should've also taken a sin off for the shot looking up at Jack in the freezer while he was laughing at Wendy
My understanding on why Jack is able to escape the room with the bathtub lady without a scratch and Danny isn’t, is because Danny’s shine makes the things in the hotel more real around him. They feed off of him. That’s why the bathtub lady could hurt Danny but not Jack. Also the hotel is trying to get Jack to kill his family. Physically attacking him probably would not help in that endeavor. I’m referring to the sin at 9:31 in the video
Come sin with us Jeremy
Forever and ever!
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One of the best comments in TH-cam history.
that sounds dirty lol
When ever someone in my life does something constantly annoying all I hear is sin pings😂
Savage XHiro 😂 I should try that. Might make life more interesting while I’m near annoying people
@@earthculture2996 yea it fun & it makes the annoyance go away sometimes.
I think thats called autistim
IEatBacon fuck off, and by the way, its autism not audsjsksksudsnfhd
@@totalhufflepuff203 when the autistic kids get mad
The *REAL* sin about this movie is how terribly Shelley Duvall was treated by the director when filming this. She became schizophrenic after it :(
Wait, what? How?
No one becomes schizophrenic due to being treated poorly by a boss.
@@michelleprieur1 she was completely terrified after the movie. Doing all that screaming like someone is going to murder her, she had literal nightmares and it tormented her for years. That's why she is a Schizo
@@bobbyshmurdashat3254 I figured it was due to him screaming at her the whole time that she couldn't act worth a sh*t.
@@jimnewl its a different thing when someone can't act. If that was the case then Kubrick could have gotten someone different, but it was literal torture for her. On top of that she was ridiculed for years.
I believe the reason he contradicts himself in the bathroom, is because it is Jack working on the story in his head, and working out the details
Shelly Duvall was actually ruined by this movie, she went insane. It's always so sad to think about when the movie was so brilliant.
i just want to give her a hug
icess overstreet shes better now tho
Yeah it was pretty sad seeing her on dr Phil a while back. She’s a mess now
I heard she took the role in Popeye just to calm down
Actually its disputed because said she was fine
"Come play with us Danny..."
I swear I said peer pressure in my head before you lol moment😅
Brave to sin a movie that has deliberate "mistakes" with the set & background lol
I love the explanation for the chair discontinuity
"Why should I give a flying f*ck about TUESDAY??"
Me, too, Jeremy.
I also hate Tuesday.
Kou Izumi Nega-Garfield?
But that’s when cinema sins upload
For you, you may hate Tuesday but for M. Bison, it was just Tuesday.
Supernatural fans HATE Tuesday's
Yes we do.
Please do the Stephen King's approved tv min-series version of the Shining!
Oh that would be awesome!! Love that one!
I’m surprised someone had the balls to point out “Everything Wrong With”
This movie. 👏👏
@UCMAmfItKNjTbk9KxOvPbKaA lol sasly there are people that take this more seriously then its meant and even try to be critical of the points made in these non critical videos
Nice
Well I would hardly call it the perfect movie. It's certainly a great movie. I couldn't go to sleep the night I watched it because every time I closed my eyes I saw those two little girls in the hallway. Still there are plenty of sins to be had. Jack Nicholson's performance was really the only one that made the movie believable.
Why all people still didn't notice the movie sin timer anyways ? Is it blind or what ?
“Anything” wrong with it 😏
My man sinned one of the most iconic scenes in movie history....
This movie is cinematic legend.
Cinemasins: *Hold my redrum.*
Corny meme
Imagine watching a movie with this guy...
Talking the entire time, that's hell
Nah he’ll rant AFTER the movie and then rewatch it and talk
I’d be ranting with his ass and likely get *hired*
3:50 I always assumed the stocked pantry and freezers were for the Torrance's. At least 3 meals a day for 5 to 6 months requires a lot of food, especially considering the road to the hotel is impassible for most the winter.
That's the explanation in the book and it makes sense.
That is still a fuck ton of turkey and chicken.
@@memorra 6 months is a long time.
@@memorra Yes, and a lot of it seems already freezer-burned. None of it is properly packaged, and certainly not dated. Finally, the roads aren't impassible, surely, for more than a week or so at a time, so they can get supplies inbetween. So, they still have to eat their way through 40 six-month-old frozen chickens? That's two a week!
I honestly loved this movie
The actors did a awesome job!