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- Doctor Sleep - A Drink with Jack: Dan (Ewan McGregor) drinks with a specter of his father (Henry Thomas).
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Struggling with alcoholism, Dan Torrance remains traumatized by the sinister events that occurred at the Overlook Hotel when he was a child. His hope for a peaceful existence soon becomes shattered when he meets Abra, a teen who shares his extrasensory gift of the "shine." Together, they form an unlikely alliance to battle the True Knot, a cult whose members try to feed off the shine of innocents to become immortal.
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Cast: Ewan McGregor, Henry Thomas
Director: Mike Flanagan
Screenwriter: Mike Flanagan
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I felt so bad for Dan in this scene...at the same time I felt proud that he chose not to take the drink. Ewan’s acting A+
The drink didn't even exist, though.
@@danieldevito6380 the effects of the drink exist. Danny's dad drank at that same bar, the same bar that was empty with not even a glass on the shelf and he got wasted.
Dan was trying to find that Jack that one time stood up at an AA meeting. But he wasn't there.
Henry too
1:12........
if you look carefully in the background you'll see Jordan Peele enjoying the continental breakfast
Awesome comment
You freaking rock. I laughed way too hard at this
Continental? Ohhhhhh
“You’ve always been here!”
I'll have what I'm having!!!!!!!!!
this scene was profound. anyone who's struggled with addiction understands.. it hits home harder it seems. one of the most chilling parts is when danny says something like "..pouring joy at the overlook hotel" and jack says "I'll pour whatever you like" in an aggressive way. to me that sounds like a threat.. like instead of joy he would pour fear or pain
well put
This scene also hits hard for children who grew up with an addict or alcoholic parent. “A man takes a drink, the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes the man.” I always new that my dad was two people, he was sober and he was the violent drunk. Addiction hurts the addict, but it hurts the addict’s children almost as much, if not more, than it does the addict. Stands to reason why children of addicts have a much higher risk of becoming addicts themselves.
@@stephenmyers-fulgham9841 grandad, RIP, loved to drink, and he was an angry drunk. In the end it cost him his mind, he was gone before his body died.
That's why I liked the Shining even more. It put us into the perspective of an alcoholic. Stephen King drew from his own experiences as one too. Hence why he didn't like Stanley Kubrick's adaptation.
I have very limited sympathy for addicts. Particularly alcoholics. I genuinely can't understand how anyone can enjoy the taste of alcohol. You may as well be drinking petrol
Some may say that it helps with the pain. But boo hoo. I've suffered a lifetime of it to the point of yearning for death every single day for years
I never wanted booze
Somehow Henry Thomas manages to look nothing like Jack Nicholson but very much like Jack Torrence. Nice job!
And that's perfectly fine. That's how it used to be done. You cast people to play a role not an actor. This reliance on the deepfake stuff hopefully goes away so we can see promising young actors get a shot to play a role an aging one used to have.
Let's not forget Steven Weber already played the role quite well in the two-part miniseries version on the Syfy Channel.
@@lawrencehorner8418 yeah. nah
@@3AHoles
Agreed.
But he doesn't sound like neither one of them lol
I respect Henry Thomas for the effort though
When "Jack" knocks the glass over, McGregor looks for all the world like a small, frightened boy. Top-notch acting.
We all were there with him!
In the book, Jack's slide into madness is more harrowing, since Jack loves his family, his last same words to Danny is to remember that he always loved him and to run. More tragic than anything
In the movie, Jack lets the hotel and ghost take over his mind. Even if he did successful killed Danny and Wendy. He’ll have nothing but the hotel itself. He had no love anymore, he was just the hotel’s devil dog.
Absolutely
@@dragonninjaghostgirl7981 that's because it was the God awful movie.
I encourage you to read the book. He truly loved his family
@@alyssablase417 Agreed. It makes me pissed off that people actually like the movie. The book is SO much better and even Stephen King hated Kubrick's adaptation. If he hates it, then I hate it too.
@@TheParanormalist0601 This is a stupid take on the movie. A film is a film and a book is a book. It doesn't have to be exactly the same and in my humble opinion, Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining is one of the best of all times.
I like this, it’s like his spirit is trapped in the hotel and you can tell that’s it’s him but at the same time he’s different enough to where it’s not just a Jack Nicholson “cameo.” It’s a little creepier this way
Yes I love this scene!
Yes it's like they took him and hollowed him out into a puppet. All the negativity and anger poured into a tool the Hotel can use
It implies that Lloyd manifests itself differently to people who have the shining
Fits to the lore too, like delbert grady and charles grady, and their kids
That's not Lloyd, that's Jack Torrance all the way, this scene is important, Jack is trying to protect Danny from the Hotel's dark influence by pretending to be unrelated to Danny, this means Jack's love for Danny was genuine but flawed, imperfect and ultimately overwhelmed by the darkness inside of Jack.
Tell me, son, have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?
I get that reference 🤡
Too bad its not the same
Its from batman 1989
Watched the movie and also remembers. That's great!
@@SaImanKayani yep
Here you go, without cgi face of Jack Nickolson that gonna look outdated in 5 years at best. Just good acting from Henry Thomas, plus make up, and little DP's magic.
@@Chappie432 Same
@@Chappie432 Even his _front_ profile during the "Are you gonna take your medicine?" bit was pretty convincing! Henry Thomas spent _days_ watching and analyzing Jack Nicholson's scenes from _The Shining,_ and it shows. He does a pretty solid job channeling the original here! :)
That's Elliot?!
So agree, cpuldnr have said it more. It was such good scting i didnt even think of it not being jack. He killed it
@@lubetester yep! Young elliot from ET.
This scene really pushed me to quit drinking. For that I’m grateful for this film.
As a recovering alcoholic. This really gets to me, the thought of your own father trying to make you “take your medicine”
My eyes welled up when Danny whimpered “I’m not”
Also an alcoholic. People really don’t understand just how much willpower it took for Danny to say no. How much it takes for people like us to fight it. I’ll admit, Danny is a stronger man than me.
Please stay safe! Get some help, you deserves a chance
@@bsgfan1you’re just as strong. All the best to you
I’m not an alcoholic but I am a recovering meth addict with 6 years in November you guys aren’t fighting alone
@@bsgfan1 The very fact that he calls it medicine is what makes it so chilling. Just take your medicine, make the worries and bad feelings go away. It sounds so reasonable, like popping an advil for a headache, wanting you to focus on that moment of making the feelings go away the easy way instead of the fact that drinking it will = more bad feelings in the long term.
Okay, but the whole spiel about the ‘medicine’ was pure King.
True. Straight out of The Shining, actually. Finally a director who gets King.
isn't this scene in the book?
@@Cajaquarius doesn’t matter if he get him the movie still has to be good and there’s a reason the shining is one of the best horror films
@@georgefreemon2935 The original Shining was good but you can make a good movie and be faithful to the source material.
@@georgefreemon2935 The Shining was great in terms of directing but the writing was very shallow compared to the book
McGregor was brilliant in this movie. You rarely see someone dig this deep for a horror role (or any role).
Especially considering that Ewan is a recovering alcoholic.
My initial reaction was that there was a little too much dialogue in this short amount of time. This film moves too fast. The shining allowed time for you to take in the scenery and absorb the insanity and not be stuck trying to keep up with their constant talking
@@altarofkubrickfloydis he actually? That makes his acting here make way more sense
that's Obi Wan Kenobi
Jack and Daniel sharing a bottle of Jack Daniel's 🥃
Quality father-son time.
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717 Time they never got to have
Underrated Comment
@@fresherzzz9240 This is the best movie because they bring back The Shining movie..
@@Kaijufan360 Stephen King hated The Shining. This movie redeemed his opinion about it. What makes this movie fantastic is that the director Mike Flanagan successfully manages to capture the elements and premise of the book while continuing from Stanley Kubrick’s movie
The real horror of the bad ghosts in the Shining stories is that they're stuck. They live on but they've lost most of the complexity and capacity for change that made them human. Undead in the truest sense of the word, they're soulless husks of the people you once knew, reliving themselves at their worst. Hungry mouths wearing the skin of what was once people. Empty Devils.
bit pretentiously, but still well said.
@@Octopetala possibly the most unnecessary comment.
Well isn't this the idea? I always got the impression that they WEREN'T those people , it was the Overlook creating a fascimile of them. The hotel itself is the malevolent psychic entity at play, and those who appear are its victims. They are dead in every sense of the word, they no longer exist, but the hotel itself assumes their form and uses it to lure others into its grasp, or to torture them into feeding it. They have no complexity, no will, no freedom of action, because they are not those people, they are just a reflection of the memory of that individual.
I'd say the True Knot are more "undead" in the sense that they are still the individuals they were in life, but forced, or more often deciding, to live out a half-life sustained by the suffering of children, much like a more widespread variation of the undead, a vampire.
In my eyes the reason the ghosts of the outlook are so maliciously shallow, is because it is just a shell, or appearance, inhabited by the Overlook. The hotel only had a glimpse at their lives, a brief snapshot of their appearance, it isn't capable of greater mimicry because it didn't know their thoughts and it had no ability to perceive their past experiences. So they appear to act out a predefined set of actions every time, with some changes made by the hotel based on its observation of others (such as the bartender jack imitates), they are more a character performed by an actor than a decayed individual, more a puppet than a hollow man.
@@AveSicarius A passage from the novel describes the Overlook as it awakens: "No love, but a cool sensuousness pervades the corridors."
No love. No compassion. Just lust, and wanting, and the selfish goals of people.
@@karazor-el6085
It's an entity defined by hunger and need, I think the manner of its birth was generations of greed, violence, and the desires of the people who committed atrocities on its grounds due to both their own nature, and later on the influence of the Outlook.
I always hoped king would write a novel covering the Outlook in greater detail, such as the origins and development of it. I know this is briefly mentioned over the novels, and that it adds to the horror aspect (the unknowable and eldritch entity), but I am a sucker for in-depth lore.
Fun fact: this brilliant and amazing scene wasn’t in the book. It’s evidence that just because a film adaptation changes something, it’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Doctor Sleep film is better than the book. They really improved in themes in it. It's a bold take, but spot on to realize the change in medium can make it better.
That's because it's not a sequel to the book. It's a sequel to the Kubrick movie. It wouldn't make much sense if they followed the book more closely.
They're too different from each other to make any sense if they'd made this closer to the book
@@nicholashodges201 Literally everyone knows it’s a sequel to the movie 🤦🏽♂️ I’m saying this scene was only possible because the first movie changed the book’s ending. In other words, change can be a good thing if it leads to something better down the road. Some people hated that the first movie diverged from the book, but this scene made it worth it.
Too bad they removed Jack's redemption
This scene is so powerful because not only is Danny confronting his addiction yet again, but the trauma of his father who is at the root of his addiction, his father who once wanted to kill him, both literally and metaphorically. It's such a hard thing to do without completely falling apart and you can see how Danny is shaking facing his father, can't even look at him...I cried at this scene.
"I think you've mistaken me for someone else."
Yeah, isn't that a shame.
So who was *your* Lloyd, Jack?
@@dnasty312 Grandpa Torrence?
@@dnasty312 Eawn: Jake Lloyd? Yeah, it was please to meet him in Phantom Menace...
@ALittleBird would you rather see a CGI version of him instead?
I for one am actually pretty happy that they used real actors and they did a pretty good job.
Turles
I think they did a fantastic job with the recasts of Jack, young Danny and Wendy. :)
Yeah, I'm very happy that they didn't go the bad cgi route.
Don't forget Halloran.
I would have liked it to be Jack Nicholson but they did a decent job, the first shot of Wendy I thought was actually from The Shining lol
I have to agree its pretty scary how closely the resemblence is
That bar looked familiar, I had/have no idea the two movies are related
It may be an emotional reaction but I am so glad that Henry Thomas took a place in this movie. Child actors doing great in adulthood makes me happy.
That is literally the perfect angle to show Jack Nicholson but not Jack Nicholson. This is such a well thought out and carefully crafted scene
I know right? When me and my sister watched this part, i was like “ this isn’t Jack Nickelson right?”
I love how, as the scene progresses, the wind outside blends with this ominous crescendo of sound until it stops dead when "Lloyd" knocks the glass over. So well done. This movie deserved far more attention and acclaim than it received.
it also sounds like buzzing flies
Jesus, even after all that time he’s still so resentful of Danny and Wendy.
Forever and ever
He always hated them. You could see it in the car scene.
I think the hotel changed him as well. He had some issues, but the hotel made him act on them. Even here he's still stuck in his role. Even when he knocks the glass over, which is clearly Jack breaking the character the hotel makes him play, he still gets put back under the thumb of the Overlook and immediately says sorry
@@SEliteGuitarist99 That’s not true read the book he had a history of abusing his family
@@kingMadnus does this look like a book to you?
This scene is powerful on so many levels. Not even as far as the lore of the Shining but just life in general. Dealing with addiction, abuse from addicted parents, trauma suffered at the hands of loved ones, regrets. Truly amazing scene.
When I look at the thumbnail at first glance, I thought it was really Nicholson.
I thought so too, they should have actually hired Nicholson in this movie even if he is old, it would make the movie a lot more cooler if he was.
I believe his condition got so bad he was forgetting lines so that’s probably why they didn’t get him in
@@theheagren
No, this rumor was debunked by no less than Nicholson himself. He's just rich enough that he can be more picky with scripts now;
like, if he never acted again HE'D BE FINE financially. So if he really likes a script he'll say yes, but he's under no financial obligation where he has to say yes to anything.
Mars Fargo I’m so glad that is the case
@@markdodson8570 he can't be old cause his character was middle aged when he froze to death hence how his ghost looks...
When Jack says "pup," is a great nod to the Steven Weber performance as Jack Torrance. Love it.
The "take your medicine" line is lifted directly from the book.
Bub not pup
Love Steve Weber
Henry Thomas has been an absolutely INCREDIBLE actor since he was just a little kid, deserves huge kudos for his ability!
I hadn't realised till now that it's Elliott off E.T.!
Notice at 1:44-1:45, as Jack takes a drink, Dan swallows, as if taking a drink, and seems to react almost as if he'd just had a drink, and at 2:28, when Jack knocks the glass away, Dan suddenly moves his hands. Very subtle.
What a brilliant recreation of Jacks conversation with the bartender from the first movie
Danny’s now coming to the realization of why his mother ended up the way she did and how much of his bad habits came from his father
Maybe this is just the Overlook's shoddy attempt at manifesting Jack Torrance. He doesn't look the same because Danny's mental picture is only memories he's tried to drown in whiskey.
Nah, they just couldn’t get Jack Nicholson.
That and the fact that his father has been dead for almost 40 years and Danny was like 9
I really like that idea, good excuse for the casting
maybe it's a different actor
@@LowTierPancakes maybe if they CGI’d him and used someone to make an impression it would be way better
0:17
The way he starts to say “when” before starting the word over is so real sounding. I hate in movies where everyone just enunciates perfectly without ever stumbling.
The part at 0:33 stands out to me the most, he’s trying to get through the memory without breaking down and crying and it’s so difficult for him. Great acting by McGregor
I really wish they kept the full monologue of Dan telling telling his father of their life after the Overlook. Even though it’s not SUPPOSED to be Jack, I do feel that there was this small bit of Jack hearing how the harm he did to their family to which Danny changed his eye color so Danny’s mother wouldn’t see Jack in his eyes anymore. Anytime it cut to “Lloyd” it seemed like he was truly seething that in the end for what it’s worth they were able to find happiness without him.
The way ewan starts to tear up in this scene is so impactful, because it makes you feel so bad for danny, having to talk to his dad like this.
my favourite part of this scene is that Jack is trying to convince/tell Danny to take his medicine just like he did in the Shining. But more importantly I love the fact they use a bottle Jack Daniels to show how an alcoholic of the same name can try convince his son by the same name to make the same mistake and carry the burden
Fantastic detail in movie history
Guys. How good is Ewan McGregor!!! He Is amazing in this
definitely the man for the job.
I can’t believe the cute little boy from E.T. also got to play one of the craziest tragic hero/turned antagonist in film history. He came a long way!
He came full circle, especially since he's an alcoholic in real life.
I’m proud of how such a good person Danny is refusing the drink that would cause him to go insane or something. He has a strong will.
I know that the reviews weren't great but this is a fantastic movie and a love letter to the original. I have not read Doctor Sleep or the Shining but you can see the love and care that was taken in making this film and I can assure you that in a few years time, people will be rewatching this movie and it will become a classic!
I am pretty sure most critics spoke positively about it, but it bombed at the box office largely because of how it was marketed I believe.
I agree this is a great movie, and a good sequel to The Shining, what I liked more than anything is that they adapted the book while still following the adaptation of Kubrick, they do not erased what he did, they built upon it.
You gotta give Flanagan credit. Adapting Doctor Sleep couldn’t have been easy because of how many liberties Kubrick took with The Shining. Tying the two different stories together all while trying to tie in his own deserves acknowledgement.
This scene wasn’t in the book because the Overlook was destroyed at the end of the Shining book. But honestly, I like the movie’s ending better specially because it allowed this scene to happen.
If you like the movies so much, you probably shouldn't read the books. The only thing that the same is that it's about similar characters in very similar situations.
Kubrick went so far from the book it caused King to never authorize another film adaptation again unless he was directly involved in the production.
It's why he has a cameo in all the movies based on his books between The Shining and Dr Sleep. He's not in Dr Sleep because it's a sequel to "Kubrick's story, not mine"
I feel like he should've said "are ya gonna take your medicine doc?" Since that was Danny's nickname in The Shining.
you could argue that Torrence was such a distant father that he wouldn't have known that, plus he wasn't there when Halloran mentioned it
@@BrianKishreviews The 1st part I agree with but Halloran didn't make the nickname he knew it because of the Shining.
Pup was Jack's nickname for Danny when he used to beat him.
@@bobgarlen Ah. That makes sense
I think doc was more a term of affection, it's less sinister.
Saw this movie for the first time recently and I've gotta say - what a masterpiece. This scene is so special in that it really 'gets' alcoholism i.e. the angry resentment of the alcoholic who is trying to recruit (misery loves company), the pain that the family suffered and the impact it had on Danny's adult life. Every actor involved put in a superb performance and it's my newly crowned, favourite horror movie.
Warner Bros. - ‘We’re making a Shining sequel - we need a Jack Nicholson lookalike!’
Nobody - ‘Henry Thomas!’
Henry Thomas - [Cracking knuckles] ‘Hold my Reese’s Pieces!’
He did a great job by not going overboard on the Jack impressions, though.
@@robertboyce6043 - he did what actors should do. He adopted _some_ mannerisms, but basically brought himself to the role and did _his own_ take on it.
Lloyd changes into Jack as soon as he drinks the whiskey. Phenomenal!
I love this scene. It exposes the cons of responsibility. The weight. The time that it takes to keep everything running. The eraser which is the drink or any other substance. This explains it perfectly. This scene really stuck with me. I think it stuck with many of us.
There are no cons to the responsibility of being a family man. The sacrifices are paid back 10-fold.
@@michaelcarter5624 Well it depends if you're in a good healthy relationship yeah you get what you put back 10 times.
However in a bad relationship that's not the case, Jack was also not the most emotionally Put together person that's why he drink.
Look I Don't have kids I just have pets and the Energy and time it takes to Take Care of them Sometimes it's very draining.
Kids are way harder
I do like they kept with movie Jack and not book Jack.
As someone who had an alcoholic father, this is 100% closer to the truth than what King wrote.
You see all the pain and abuse Danny suffered in Ewan's expression.
The movie was, in addition to being an adaptation of the book, intended as a direct sequel to Kubrik's The Shining. However, there are elements of book Jack added into the movie that weren't present in the Kubrik film.
It's really weird hearing Ewan McGregor doing a American accent.
Not watched Fargo then?
@techradio youve clearly no taste in good films if you think that
Especially after watching the Trainspotting movies back to back.
Though if your first exposure to him was Robots, not so much.
He has played an American quite a few times. He is fantastic with accents. I'm from the town where season 3 of Fargo takes place (St. Cloud) and Ewan probably had the most accurate Minnesota accent for that region. Even the movie they over exaggerated the accent.
The mind is a blackboard and this is the eraser🥃
Great acting in this scene, particularly Ewan as he sees himself reflected in his father.
The way he looks at the glass, staying focused by trying to confront his father for what he did.
By refusing the drink he was proving to himself that he was stronger than Jack
Henry Thomas did a great job along with the Director and the Director photography. You can’t tell me that the moment you saw the profile of Henry Thomas behind the bar you didn’t know who it was. But, the real thing that we must remember is that Henry Thomas is not playing Jack Nicholson, he’s playing Ewan McGregor’s memory of his dad who died long ago. In The Shining, we got to see what Jack Torrance actually looked like, and in this movie we see what Danny Torrance remembers him like. Plus, it’s also The Shinings’ representation of the bartender and Jack Torrence.
I was in rehab a few times and we had designated movie nights. I brought this one and it had a pretty profound effect on everybody. I felt proud that night 😊
man takes the drink then drink take the drink then drink take the man that the most true thing I ever heard 💯💯
"I think you've mistaken me for someone else. I'm Henry Thomas, not Jack Nicholson."
When Danny refused to drink, I cheered.
Notice how Jack Torrance is the only ghost left at the Overlook when Danny arrives. Jack was the only ghost Danny hadn't locked in his mind. I think that's why the Hotel was able to remain in decent enough condition over the years, and be able to light up again when Danny entered.
Jack retained his position of caretaker of the Hotel even as a ghost, and made sure it would remain intact until his son's eventual return.
I also like to think that it was Jack himself who prevented the ghosts from killing Danny, like they did Rose The Hat.
I think Jack wanted Danny to become one of them, so they could be 'one big happy family' again.
But he underestimated his son's inner strength - which ultimately led to the downfall of the Hotel.
Every time I watch this theres more depth, nuance and pain. Whoever cast Henry deserves a Nobel freaking prize.
The moment you realize that Obi-Wan Kenobi is talking to Elliott.....
That being said, amazing performances from both Ewan McGregor and Henry Thomas
And Elliott had Star Wars toys.
Wait a minute... that's Henry Thomas. Elliott without E.T. !
You must have mistaken him for someone else...that's Lloyd! 😂
pem1974 Good one ! 😊
Oh my God I never knew that. My God he's aged well.
@techradio he collaborates alot with Mike Flanagan
Oh snap nice catch!
It's kind of dark after several times telling danny that he wasn't his father. Then when he tells him "a man takes a drink, a drink takes a drink, and a drink takes a man, isn't they so dad." Then the dad doesn't deny it just stares blankly almost angry then proceeds to go on a rant just like how he used to when he was alive. Creepy
Very powerful scene. When he said “ ain’t it so dad” …
Jack gives him a stern fatherly look. For a few minutes the hotel lets Jacks resentment for Danny spill.
“Ain’t it so, dad”*
This movie is some kind of magic trick. Somehow Flanagan managed to honor to both King and Kubrick’s versions of The Shining, while also creating a great horror film that stands completely on its own. It may not be the masterpiece that The Shining is, but Doctor Sleep is a wonderful movie and I’m glad it’s getting the attention and love it deserves.
This was probably the single best film about alcoholism ever made
"Hello there!" "Danny! You are a bold one!"
Glad they didn't try to CGI Nicholson's face onto the actor. Jack looking slightly different, almost like a corrupted doppelganger the house manifests, works in a creepy way
Ive never noticed this before. But the first two shots of Jack are so cut profile. He's eerie and doesn't move whatsoever. The third shot of him, after Danny struggles in his emotional story, is on the slightest angle over. It does kind of look like there are tears forming in Jack's eyes, despite his lack of facial emotion otherwise.
I have this on both 4K and Blu-ray, and the BD version has a bit more dialog in this scene that I feel helps, especially when Lloyd starts talking about "medicine" and says "depression, stress, failure, regret, it wipes it all away" - those are definitely things you gotta find another way to conquer if you're going to avoid drinking.
The way I always looked at this scene is that his memories of his father are now packed away in the very back of his mind where he doesn’t want to remember them. It’s been over 30 years or so… So his memory of him here is the best his mind could come up with. The features are different if slightly enough but this version of Jack has sharper lines and makes him even seem more aggressive and in turn scarier… His voice and demeanor make him a legitimate threat yet again… “Now tell me Bub are you gonna take your medicine?!” 😦
pup
This is a great scene. There's a disconnect by Jack not being Jack Nicholson, but when I think of the alternatives they could have gone with to de-age him and put him in the movie, I think going with Henry Thomas was a safe bet.
As an alcoholic struggling with my addiction for the past 10 years I completely agree with the way alcohol is depicted in this scene and this scene alone made me give this movie a higher rating. In no other media have I seen the feeling of alcohol abuse so well described in so few words. It's a medicine to our trauma and our pain. It's the eraser to the blackboard of our minds, only it's completely temporary... Those shaded out chalk scribblings remain.
Take care friend!
I love how Jack talks like an average barman in the first half of the exchange in this scene but when Danny refuses to drink for the last time he turns into the explosive and rhetoric Jack Torrance he was when he got angry.
Over the course of this scene, 'Lloyd' gradually crumbles away and Jack shows himself.
So this scene leads me to wonder what Delbert Grady was like before he blew his own brains out (and before, while and after murdering his wife and his daughters) and became the Overlook's emotionally restrained steward. Now it's _Jack's_ turn to be the emotionally restrained spectral bartender, but we saw Jack at his worst before he got lost in the maze and froze to death; was Delbert's "worst" much different?
the book Grady was mentioned to be an uncouth alcoholic without much of an education - Jack is actually surprised by his eloquence when they meet.
@@DarthRushy I can see why Kubrick improved Grady's image for the movie adaptation, then. What kind of nice hotel with upscale clientele would hire someone like _that,_ right?
@@BloodyBay The manager didn't know he was a drunkard, and wanted someone of low intelligence as they would be more likely to endure the long period of isolation.
@@DarthRushy Fair enough. I can see that.
"Those mouths eat time. They eat your days on Earth. They just gobble them up."
Is that a Langoliers reference?
This is gem of a movie that got dismissed by too many. I think, almost poetically, that it’ll gain a following just like The Shining did years after its release.
“The man takes a drink. The drink takes a drink. Then the drink takes the man”
Honestly one of the best lines I’ve heard
Henry needs a starring role in a big film again. It's been 40 years since he carried a big film. He had the chops to do it at 12 and he most certainly has the chops at 52.
Casting a different actor kinda sells the feeling the mansion can’t replace his real father.
I didn’t even know it was Henry Thomas at first. Great friggin movie!
It's nice that this will never look weird because of deep fake cgi stuff.
see you in 40 years when another actor plays Ewan McGregor as the bartender
But Daniel's spirit was free from Overlook. He spoke with the girl at the end.
Did you not see the ending? The hotel exploded.
"Your money's no good here, Mr. Torrance."
Ewan McGregor has incredible accent versatility
He doesn't look "that" bad but where they let it down was him not sounding like Jack at all- Jack had such a specific voice and intonations they don't even try to match here.
I personally think that he doesn’t really sound like him he speaks like him imagine him with Jacks voice I think they did good
I don't know. Its a helluva scene that I would h ave been ruined by an impression.
Sometimes its easier to go without. If you're tied up in trying to sound like the guy, you'll lose the focus of what you're trying to say.
That being said, it would've been amazing with an impersonation. Heck, if they had uglied up Christian Slater a bit, it woulda been cool.
Agreed. I wouldn't mind if he didn't look exactly like Jack if he nailed the "Jack voice." That would make all the difference.
There's also the fact that he's a Lloyd.
He's doing the Lloyd job, can only articulate himself the way the Lloyd avatar can.
Just a skin on a puppet, straining to move, but more than happy to drag others down.
as a father struggling.. this scene haunts me.
"Are you gonna take your medicine?"
What in impact this scene and movie make! How moving and dirturbing and amazing. That's real horror. Mr. Flanagan, you were a genius for this.
I don't care what the rest are saying. It's as good as a proper sequel to The Shining can get. It will never surpass The Shining, but it's a good sequel nonetheless.
This film deserves SOOO much more love than it gets. Not an easy task to make a sequel to both a book and it's very different movie. Yet, Flanagan pulled it off.
I love this scene his Jack impression Is spot on its nice to see the roles are reversed here 😊
In Memory of John Turkel (aka Lloyd - The Bartender, The Shining 1980).
Thanks for the memorable scene that has elevated you to Cult Status.
Forever Missed 😢
1927 - 2022
That pause, midway through.
He just _stops_ for a few seconds and thinks of a new thing to say, to try and get the wheels rolling.
"ill pour whatever you like mr torrance" is so menacingly said for some reason.
One of the best movies of the 2010's hands down
This scene is done masterfully
This scene actually made me cry
me too, it was powerful. I wanted it to go on much longer.
“I’ll pour whatever you like, Mr. Torrence.” This scene depicts the demon of alcoholism so well
The Shining was honestly soo good. Danny riding that tricycle gave me goosebumps and when I saw it in this film I freaking lost it ! Mike Flanagan does it again
2:26 just like Luke when he refused to surrender to the darkside.
The death flies represent guilt so effectively, especially when it involves someone close dying and the complications of trauma.
This whole scene is just begging for a Deepfake remake of it!
Not really. The idea was to bring back Jack Torrance, not Jack Nicholson, and it worked with this scene.
God...no! Let actors act. You build on the past, you don't resurrect it. Hell, that's the biggest lesson to learn from "The Shining".
@@roshi98 too bad it’s not up to you
@@roshi98 deepfakes are fun. It won't hurt anything.
Paul Reubens as the bartender. Mike Tyson as Danny.
feels like jack wants to talk to his son but cant because of loyd the other bar tender
Ewan deserves so much more credit for his acting
Danny: I have the high ground!
Jack: You underestimate my medicine!!