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The Super Mario Bros Movie Is Delightfully Cringe | Guilty Pleasures Ep. 105
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GUILTY PLEASURES
Comedians Zach Kornfeld, Kelsey Darragh, and Garrick Bernard take turns sharing their favorite guilty pleasure movies and TV shows to feel good about feeling guilty.
PODCAST DEPT
Executive Producer | Keith Habersberger
Executive Producer | Eugene Lee Yang
Executive Producer | Zach Kornfeld
Podcast Producer | Miles Bonsignore
Podcast Editor | Rainie Toll
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Just want to add that Mario and Luigi living with their family isn’t too weird if you’re an ethnic minority/ from a recent immigrant family. I’m 2nd Gen Mexican American and it’s normal to stay with the family unit until you marry. There’s a lot of pressure to stick around and help the family out still until you start a family of your own.
Literally just came from the podcast to comment this lol. Totally not that crazy that Mario and Luigi live in (what seems to be) a multigenerational home
Same goes for some Indian family who are close
Especially in expensive cities like NY and Hawaii, it’s the same for Filipinos!
This!!!!
I love the when Miles disagrees with Kelsey and/or Zach. He always brings up valid points.
Agree! I like how he called out Zach's music snob moment lol
Luigi's Mansion as like a genuine scary thriller movie would be hilarious
In defense of Kelsey - I don't think I've ever thought about what creature Bowser is, but did not think he was a turtle 😂🤯
I thought he was a dragon!!!!
@@chanchanx03 I think dragon is the most accurate. He has a shell, sure, but I think he's a dragon with a turtle shell. More accurately, he's just the King Koopa.
he's a Koopa, just a big one, the king one. Koopa's are based on Kappa which are a turtle-like creature from Japanese folklore
I thought he was a snapping turtle 😭
I literally made the connection in the movie too! you could have told me he was a dragon and I would have said yes
as someone studying animal science at university, it absolutely tickles me to hear turtles described as lizards who find shells
We have got to stop casting actors to play voice roles just cause we know who they are. Cast VOICE ACTORS to play voice roles. A few actors with iconic voice characteristics, like jack black and Seth, is fine but like how they mentioned Anya Taylor joy, Keegan and Fred armisen don’t work it’s because they aren’t voice actors and should have been played by actual voice actors.
If the movie had like shrek humour it would be a 10/10. In my opinion the comedy didn’t land it felt too much just fro kids instead of a FAMILY family. I would like Mario and toads dynamic to be more like shrek and donkey
100% agree with Kelsey that the movie was filled with nostalgia and that it's a family movie more than a kids movie. I loved all of the references
Same. It's definitely kid appropriate, but it was also made to make adults feel like children again. Why else would this be such a highly anticipated movie?
Well also I feel like he immediately contradicts himself. His FIRST point of happiness/serotonin of the movie is that it is "chock full of references" and he's sitting there squealing in his seat. :) Also, no kid is going to appreciate Peaches by Jack Black the way us adults are right now. Come on man, it's so YUMMY!
It's a kids movie 100%. The speed and simplicity of the plot are proof of that. It did try to pander to older audiences though by sprinking in references and things so adults can tolerate it better then other kids movies. Good family movies have a much more defined plot with better pacing.
@@ehams23 Kids are 100% obsessed with that song too. Trust me on that
@@SohiHien That's because good family movies aren't made by Illumination. lol
No offense, Zach, but I feel like the main reason you have that opinion about the movie is because you know the rules of the game. Like Miles said, I feel like you'd probably have the same opinion with the d&d movie if you knew all of the lore.
I live for miles calling out zach on his snobbery (re: music at a wedding)
This podcast cannot be produced fast enough I literally rewatch every day
Jack Black as Bowser and Seth Rogen as DK were excellent casting! Bowser was my favorite part of the movie! And I loved Princess Peach being portrayed as a baddie instead of a damsel! I’m excited to see what the future of the franchise holds!
I went with my little brother who’s 13 years younger than me & I found myself laughing just as much as he was 😂😭 also the animation of the toads and blue penguins were adorable!!!
There’s NOTHING guilty about this movie. It’s completely entirely a pleasure. A classic. A masterpiece.
It’s super cringe dude
I wish our boy Garrick could have been here because I thought of him while watching the movie in the theatre!! I'm so excited for the next season of single drunk female though!
I'm with Kelsey. I also did not realize that Bowser is a turtle until I saw him with the Koopa Troopa army.
I went stoned af, theater full of adults (I'm 25), the whole crowd loved the movie, especially Jack Black. It's def made for adults too
New fave GP quote is Kelsey earnestly saying “Zach, you can’t just do smack the entire movie” like someone trying to reason with their child
Opening scene with Bowser, two kids in the theater started screaming in terror and crying. Def not a movie for all toddlers 😅
The way Zach loves Luigi makes me so happy because i've always been a Luigi boy myself
The bit were you talked about Mario's family, I completely disagree. It was super relatable, especially if you're not American lol 😅
Also, i honestly don't think they're over 30... i can see them being in their mid-twenties
Yeah that and all the Brooklyn scenes in the beginning was oddly my favourite part of the movie haha, could've done with more scenes of them in their daily lives.
The only part that didn't land with me was the fact that his dad wasn't proud of him. It's just an overdone plot point/hurdle to me. Living with the family wasn't cringe at all though, and I hated that they thought it was a negative. It is far more common for families of different ethnic groups especially to stick together like that.
@@andreavalverde654 Same
Here's my thing about Chris Pratt, I know there's been rumors and such of his involvement with Hillsong (a crazy anti-lgbtq church) and honestly, it doesn't matter because he gives me the same sort of vibes as Tom Cruise - and they aren't good. I know that fellow actors and directors have commented about both of these individuals, saying they are professionals and a delight to work with. And that's great. Everyone should be professional and polite to their coworkers. Duh. That doesn't mean you aren't a dumpster of a human to everyone else in the world. Is it entitlement? Naracissim? I don't know but it's just a bad vibe check and I don't want to support those kind of "golden gooses" in hollywood.
It's a shame because Jack Black can take ALL my money. There's someone who 1000% passes the vibe check lmao! I'm so happy (and not surprised) to hear you all thought he was the best part of the movie too. It's wonderful to see him continue to be such a delightful person, a fierce supporter of the queer community, and have the almost effortless ability to bring a smile to my face. King!
One of the few things I felt were missing was definitely when they fell off the road into the water. I was waiting for the cloud guy to come by and pick up Mario and DK and have it just be a super slow scene of him having to lift them back up onto the road! I was a little butthurt they just went under instead 😂
I feel like the second movie is going to end up being about them finding Yoshi and somehow ending up in Sarasaland to introduce the last 3 characters.
My favourite part of the movie was Seth Rogan as DK, his voice and his laugh. It's perfect
Ain't nobody gonna talk about the Bowuigi craze?? Zach's really gonna go into the internet deep cuts and talk about c*m jars and fail to mention this new ship???
The absolute record scratch from Kelsey and Miles when Zach said c** jar was fucking hilarious. Also, agree with Kelsey about not knowing that Bowser was a turtle. I thought he was just a dragon wearing a turtle shell costume 💀💀💀
I still think he's supposed to be a dragon with a turtle shell. He breathes FIRE!
@@MsAliciaRL thank you!!
I also didn’t realize Bowser was a turtle so I’m with you Kelsey!
100% Jack Black was the best part of this film but we all expected as much 💜
Please do the '93 live-action Super Mario Bros. movie!!!
Peach has agency and is girl bossy in Super Mario RPG. It's one of the reasons that one's my favorite game. Also she just slapped all the enemies.
Birdo is actually canonically trans. It was mentioned in one manual like Super Mario Bros 2 that said she's a male "who thinks he's a girl" and then they just don't talk about it ever again. Birdo's Japanese name is also just Catherine.
Also, I love Yoshi too and even got the wristband for Marioland in USJ, but like Yoshi was introduced as a dispensible horse. It makes me sad, but there are levels where the way you get through mechanics by ditching him to jump across a chasm.
“Miles are you in this?” “No.” Proceeds to fully participate 😂 #milesnation
I havent seen anybody mention the nod to luigis mansion when luigi first fell into bowsers land 😢
Ngl I’m sad to see the word cringe associated with this movie, but after getting about 5 minutes in I understand where they’re both coming from (even though I agree with Kelsey slightly more). The Mario games at their core are VERY simple story wise, and we have to also remember that Nintendo is extremely protective of their properties after seeing what the previous Mario movie turned out to be. The only way the company was ever going to consider trying to make another one is if they had heavy involvement from beginning to end, which means a very simple story that pays tribute to the games that’s unlike the 90s movie that did the complete opposite. Honestly it’s kinda disappointing some people expected a complex plot for something like this cause at least for me I don’t need a complex story for something like this cause as a Mario fan, I really loved the versions of these characters the movie gave us and there’s so many references sprinkled throughout that had me smiling so much. Straightforward movies that don’t go 90 mins are a rarity even in family stuff nowadays, and imo I think it’s really cool that Nintendo and Illumination wanted to make something that was just a nice time for people of all ages to enjoy much like the games it’s based on
I don't need a deep plot but I would like a stable flowing plot. Things just moved so fast nothing could be explained because so much had to happen in such a short time. If they just fleshed a few things out a bit more to slow down the plot it would have been perfect.
If their involvement was so heavy, why was Kranky Kong Donkey Kong's dad instead of his grandfather?
i saw this in theaters with children beside me and heard one of them ask another “why do they want to be plumbers anyways?” and i think they’re asking the important questions
plumbers make good money tell them that
ok i didn't think bowser was a pitbull, but i had NO IDEA bowser was supposed to be the same thing as the little green shells
how you you not though? He looks similar and has the same coloring. He just looks like a "boss" version of a koopa
@@SohiHien i think kelsey nailed it like if i saw one shot of the koopas calling him king or being his servants i would have gotten it, but I didn't (maybe i just missed them?)
@@RapidObsessor But he has been called King Koopa since his creation, it was later changed to Bowser. And he has been seen with koopas before in the games. He also sucks into his shell in the games like the koopas and real turtles do. His kids are also called the koopa kids or koopalings. It's clear he is a giant koopa, their play on a turtle.
@@SohiHien you're making some amazing points. unfortunately, i didn't see these things.
I'm surprised Kelsey didn't bring up one of the most adult scenes in that movie. I swear anytime I'm on social media someone points out the Bowser and Luigi scene.
It's not even an adult scene? Like he is just threatening Luigi and pulls his mustache hair out. The fact people have like sexualized this to the extreme is honestly baffling and troubling.
i am BEGGING for a guilty pleasures on the show schmigadoon!! between musical hater garrick and theatre kid kelsey, it'd be hysterical, and the first season is about the length of a movie
I'm surprised they didn't bring up the Pratt voice do-over theory. When I watched the movie, Pratt was GREAT as Mario in the beginning and I was impressed, but around a quarter into the movie, his voice became more bland. I thought I was going crazy but I saw other people on twitter saying the same. Going theory is that there was such backlash about Pratt's voice lines in the trailer, they brought him back into the studio to re-record several lines. That's most likely why the "Mushroom Kingdom Here we go" and a lot of Mario's lines from the trailer were cut out from the movie.
The new Guilty Pleasures Merch is just shirts with Kelseys Nips🤣
I'm with Kelsey -- Bowser isn't obviously a turtle! Saying that he is king of the koopers isn't much of a point when Princess Peach is literally the princess of the mushroom kingdom!
He looks like a turtle though. He is literally a scaled animal with a shell in the same colors of the more obvious koopas which are clearly turtles. All of the enemies have Kings that are just larger versions of them like King Boo, King Bomb-omb and Bowser is called King Koopa.
I loved it, I took my nephews with me and it was definitely enjoyable for both kids and adults
I'm so suprised they didn't mention when mario saved DK from drowning----he yanked him up by his tie and it looked more like a hanging than a rescue
10:22 I don’t think I’ve ever agreed w/ Kelsey more than when she said that her favorite character to play is Yoshi. I play Yoshi anytime I am able to, I have a Yoshi ringtone for text messages, I even have a Yoshi keychain on my purse! Yoshi is my Bro-shi (not lying, used to say that as a kid)
This was a 100% fan movie and I’m here for it
I wish toad was more like donkey on shrek. He just felt useless and the comedy they gave him was boring.
Miles having his baby in a crate at the back of the office is pretty unsettling NGL
It's a dog I think 😂
I’m pretty sure that’s Hippo 😂
Lol it’s definitely a dog but this comment made me laugh all the same
hahaha i was questioning what mustve been in there but I agree that it's probably hippo. Def if it was a baby they wouldnt be that quiet but they wouldnt put a baby in an soft enclosure
Lol I am assuming this comment is a joke because that is Kelsey's dog Hippo! 🤣
My boyfriend thought road was going to be the plot twist villain. Bcs bowser always knew were they were at so he thought road was a double agent.
Here’s my take on the whole family movie vs kid’s movie thing. I think this is a family movie in that it does appeal to viewers of all ages, but it does so in the opposite way that movies usually do. The standard model is to have a visually fun style that appeals more to children, and a plot and emotional throughline that appeals more to adults. Here, the aesthetics and design were what appeals to older audiences, while the simple and easy to digest plot is catered more towards the younger audiences. So in that regard, Zach is correct that the movie lacks what he expects from a family movie, while Kelsie is correct that it absolutely does appeal to a broad audience.
I agree that the plot definitely appeals more to kids but the emotional throughline of Mario and Luigi's relationship felt like it catered more to adults? Idk about you but I did NOT expect them to make their brotherly connection so touching. It was so sweet
i think alison brie would be a perfect peach
I started singing Satisfied before they did and then we were singing together. Love that. ❤ 😂
1000000% disagree with Zach. It's completely an adult movie. The movie was chock full of references and thats for nostalgia for adults who grew up.playing Mario games in the 90s and 00s.
references doesn't make it an adult movie. The mach 5 simple plot and style of humor is 100% geared for kids. They just stuck references in there because they know they have adult fans too and many parents of the kids seeing it would know mario too.
I actually found Peach really dull lol. I don't really like the trope of trying to avoid damsel in distress by making the only female character in a cast overly competent and without any flaws or depth or allowed to be funny. It kind of reminds me of the lazy writing of the 90s sitcom where the wife is allowed to be competent but boring and the husband is funny but stupid and is the star of the show.
yeah i hated Peach. It was another Bo Peep. I was happy she still wore her dress but then they changed her outfit when she got into the Kart. She's overly capable and it makes her boring. It would be better if she DIDNT know the training stuff and they had to learn it TOGETHER, cause she needs to save her kingdom and mario needs to save Luigi. And maybe they can disagree on things along the journey as they both learn.
I’m so glad you guys did this one! I took my 4 year old son to this movie, and he’s just been getting into playing video games with me so he recognized a ton of the characters. We had a great time and he brings up the movie all the time now 💜 looking forward to the new MCU lol
This is 100% a kids movie. The simplicity of the plot and mach 5 pacing of the plot are proof of that. And that mamma mia joke 20 times. They did make it at least tolerable for the parents and older mario fans by providing music and game references.
As a fan of Mario, I wish the plot was better. I was so excited when they dropped the info about it coming 4/20/22. It was cute but I wish it just had more to it, like Zack.
Idk I had a grand old time
The weird thing about Anya Taylor Joy as Peach is that, when they announced the cast, she was the only one who I thought could do a really good impersonation of the character, but then she just uses her normal voice. I didn't mind it that much, but I would have liked to hear her change her voice a little.
Lmaooooo I love Kelsey. I ALSO thought Bowser was a dog 😂😂😂😂
50:43 since I see no other comments explaining it. one of the main reasons it became a meme is because of a My little pony figure being left in a jar that was progressively filled for ages and it also being left on a heater which made it look disgusting.
I feel like Bowser is an Alligator Snapping Turtle. Have you seen one of those monsters?
I always thought Bowser was a dragon wearing a shell tbh
Zach, please go to a filipino line dancing party before hating on the song "September"
There are so many bad wedding songs, and September is not one of them.
100% with Zach on the music thing. The actual music score for the movie has beautiful game music for those sections and they REMOVED IT and replaced it with take on me by AHA and all the others.
So excited for season 2 of Single Drunk Female!! go garrick 👏
To chime in to the first part, my kids (7 and 11) were the ones who asked ME (30 year old millennial) to take them to see the movie. 100% a family movie
Garrick not being here is a TRAVESTY 😭
Fuck Garrick not loving himself enough, I would of happily started watching Single Drunk Female to support him. I'll check it out today or tomorrow now.
Am I the only one that remembers the DK tv show? His voice was more surf dudeish. Lol guess so Iam old 😂
so this is telling me that zach has never watched the super mario bros. super show
Im agreeing with Zach on this one. It was too much of a kids movie for me. It wasn’t even funny it was just nostalgic cringe 😭
Just made my day! Immediately clicked. Love you guys 💚
Do all Yoshis lay eggs? Because I assumed that since Yoshi lays eggs, she would be a girl? Am I wrong? Also, there's a Yoshi's island, which is what I assumed that group of Yoshis were...
The 90s movie is a piece of art.
That Tanuki Suit sounds like the P-Wing from SMB 3. The P-Wing puts Mario/Luigi into a costume that looks like the Tanuki Suit but with unlimited flight.
Love single drunk female!!!! Garrick is amazing in the show!!!!
I agree a lot more with Keysey on this one. I knew all the references but it definitely felt like a family movie in comparison to Sonic that did feel more of a kids movie. I thought I would need to give it the same leway like Sonic, but it really didn't feel like I had to rate it based on that expectation. I loved it so much. Definitely a pleasure.
I agree with Zack that the random iconic songs were really weird and threw me off as a Nintendo lover. The score itself is absolutely fantastic, and they put in the DK rap which is so terrible but I love it so much!
It's even worse to know that there are orchestrated scores for those parts with the vocal tracks but they removed them and put these 80s songs instead. We could have had an amazing donkey kong music montage but instead got AHA take on me.
@@SohiHien The fact that the score to the Donkey Kong games is arguably one of the best scores in video game history, we were in Donkey Kong's island for quite a while, and they wasted so much time with licensed music, is an absolute travesty. The fact that Kelsey liked the music? Just no. It was my least favorite thing about the movie, honestly. They already had the IP. The studio could have saved money on something that was already a box office hit, and made something far better.
@@TheShauNanigans At least you can listen to the songs they cut out for licensed music on the soundtrack
@SohiHien That's neat. I'll have to check it out. Maybe they'll save those for future movies too.
Y’all should watch the OG Mario Bros movie. Twas a childhood favorite of mine. 😂
Keegan was excellent as Toad. No idea what broski is talking about.
I think the fact that I went into watching this film with really no expectations at all besides knowing about the whole Chris Pratt thing made this movie an absolute joy to me. It was fun and it took twists that I wasn’t expecting. The references are so nostalgic and fun and just bring such a delight to the people who grew up playing the games. I love a Pixar level film don’t get me wrong, they are my bread and butter. But the thing that I really adored about this film is that it’s just trying to be a movie. I’m not going to see a Mario movie to feel some big huge emotions, and it’s not like it lacked emotional depth and a solid story, it just wasn’t at Pixar level. But I think that’s what made it just absolutely enjoyable. Some movies are just meant to be feel good films and I look forward to seeing this again.
Kelsey and Zach singing “Hamilton”? My day is *made.*
Completely agree with Zach on the writing- felt rushed and the only aim being to cram in as many references as possible. And if the aim is to make a bromance movie, maybe don't separate the two brothers for 90% of the movie?
0:16 that sounds so familiar but can’t remember where it’s from. All I can think about is Cats the musical and even then I don’t remember when
cat pen in the back… has rainie brought her kittens to work? :)
I ain’t no critic, but I totally agree with Zak. This movie was written about as lazy as you could possibly write a movie, they really didn’t enter tomorrow, and Easter eggs in a way that progressed the plot and made sense, in the whole world they built, just felt pretty careless
And I’m not a curmudgeon at all
WDYM BOWSER IS A TURTLE
PEACHES PEACHES PEACHES PEACHES PEACHESSSSSS
song of the summer
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Edit: as soon as I heard Seth Rogan's laugh with Donkey Kongs face it made SENSE
I feel like Genesis Rodriguez could do a realllyyyy good Peach. The only live action stuff I’ve seen her in is the Umbrella Academy, but she has voice acting experience as Honey Lemon in Big Hero 6 and Perfuma in She-ra Princess of Power.
i genuinely enjoyed this movie, HOWEVER i think the weakest part of this movie was Luigi's storyline and the relationship between him and Mario. I don't think Mario is a good brother to Luigi. Since Mario is the one protecting Luigi from everything, Luigi has no opportunity to learn how to stand up for himself and be his own person with confidence. This has turned him into a character with his own agency. His only purpose is to be motivation for Mario. Besides the ending, which felt sort of out of the blue since he had no resolve to do any protecting before at all, Luigi spent the whole movie sitting around waiting for Mario to save him. I feel the writers forgot about the "brothers" aspect of the story and shoehorned it into the end. If Luigi wasn't Mario's brother and instead a love interest, esp a female one, people would be livid over his characterization as essentially the movie's token "damsel in distress"
none of them knowing what a cum jar is is killing me 😭😭😭😭😭
I see Peach, I think Kristin Chenoweth
She would have been an excellent voice for her, probably. Amy Pohler would have been better as well.
I also want to agree with kelsey that I didn't know bowser was a turtle, a pit bull like she thought, no but a dragon yes
Kelsey's outfit is giving apple cinnamon oatmeal loving the monochrome vibe
Man equivalent to a damsel in distress - a bothered Denzel Washington
Thank you for mentioning Garrick in Single Drunk Female. I just started watching it because of your mentions and it's an amazing show! Good job Garrick!
The reporter from detective Pikachu would've been a good peach
I'm going to see it tomorrow and I'm so excited. My kids are as well. I can't watch the episode till I've seen it. So I'll be back tomorrow evening.
I need you guys to watch Coyote Ugly and tell us how it holds up.
Terribly. I promise. That would be a good episode, though.
I just thought Bowser was an amalgam of different creatures. Like Beast from Beauty and the Beast.
I thought Bowser was like a buff dragon, dinosaur, dog? Turtle might be part of his DNA. But I also thought the shell was part of his armor 😆
He is not obviously a turtle. How very dare you? I’m so with Kelsey 😂
Mile’s Firewatch screensaver.