Listen it's really awesome to see the new tech and polaris pushing limits but, like we are seeing at this price point of the northstar at $49,599 US ( not including taxes, title, and dealer mark ups)you could honestly go get a really nice truck and make it more capable. I love seeing new stuff but, they really are forgetting about the demographic they used to target.
Which truck would you make more capable than the Ranger 1500? Or any Ranger? A Loaded regular Ranger costs 40k.... Everyone who bought a loaded ranger will hands down buy this.
50k for a sxs???? Did they give us the us military price??? That’s so stupid to price your atv out of the working middle class. What kind of warranty does it have??? I won’t be able to afford a $800 dollar payment and maintenance cost.
$52K for the 6 seat northstar ultimate. $52K for a side by side! Only people buying these will be people needing to write off a $52K "business expense".
Love Polaris's innovation, their will be suckers that buy it for 60k. But reality is a farmer can use his old pickup truck to do even more than what this can do. Everyone else in the world don't NEED this type of machine.
Serious Ranger! I did a video last year comparing the Xpedition to the General. From a distance, they look very similar. Up close, VERY different! This new Ranger seems similar in comparison to the original Ranger. Polaris means business with their side by sides, well done.
I’ve got to say it is the first Polaris product that I would consider buying….they have nailed it. Unfortunately this price range is very high for a vehicle that cannot be considered street legal in Canada. If you could jump in this machine and go into a larger urban center, then I would consider it. Great review as always!!!!
everyone hating on polaris for making expensive if not Most expensive sxs yet , look at bright side, apparently polaris as a "huge company " ,, has confidence that the "economy" isnt gonna TANK OR CRASH.. so theres that , ive heard LOTS of talk about the economy tanking ect ect 2008 repeat or worse, its stuf like this that means we as utv/atv enthusiasts may very well be able to keep doing what we like a little longer and not be sitting at home without work and high priced gas ect ,. due to an economic fallout like we never saw before that lots of people are talking about ... lifes all what you make of it the glass can be half full or half empty
My 6x6 Can-Am tows 3500lbs. I use it for wood towing a bush buggy. The length of that will probably bring in some people but the extra traction I get with the 6x6 is going to be so much better towing thru mud and snow. It’s a cool machine but you will have to do a bit more convincing to get me to switch.
Great video. One thing I wanted to clear up is the 4x4 modes. Can Am Defender has had a multimode 4 wheel drive system since its been released in 2016. In the Defenders you have two switches one for 2wd and 4wd, then a separate switch next to it for the rear diff lock. Nice to see Polaris finally doing it also.
My 23 commander xmr has even more options. 2x4(open rear diff), automatic 4x4(with mud and trail mode)also has the ability of lock both diffs independently. I think can am really got this right
@mattferraro9124 no, this is new for Polaris. Polaris has had turf mode but the button worked as followed - 2wd turf mode, next locked rear diff, then 4wd. So you had to have the rear locked to get it into 4wd or Awd depending on year and model.
The hate on price is crazy. I think a lot of people forget that just cuz a company comes out with a cool new product, it doesnt always mean they are getting out of another market. Adding to their line up is never a bad thing. Its not their fault many customers have a fine wine taste on a beer budget. People can set their own budget. 15-25k goes a long way in the sxs market. That hasent changed. People just want more. And the reason they want nore is cuz it exists. You go back 15 years and nobody would have even guessed the market would be as diverse as it is. The more demographics these manufacturers can hit, the larger the customer base becomes. And the larger the customer base gets, the more support the industry as a whole will get. Keep up the good work dirttrax. Ill keep checking your videos out. Helps keep me up to date on new products for when customers ask for more info.
I can understand what your saying, but disagree. The hate on price in my opinion is the lack of quality when comparing it to other vehicles in its price range. You would need to have a very specific reason to buy this vehicle or just don’t value money. I just recently checked this vehicle out in person and while there’s no doubt I would happily trade my 2020 XP 1000 for it, the price is outrageous. To make it clear right now, May 22, the sticker price is a whooping $57,589 CDN. A Ford Ranger is $20,000 less, an actual road worthy truck. So, how crazy is the hate on the price really?
My dealer is getting one of the top model 6 seaters this year. I prepaid for it. My wife and I are taking it to Montana and spending the month of October living in the woods. I can’t wait.
I think it's a great machine and excellence for farming and ranches. But holy hot sh*t batman, I can get into a brand new 2023 Ram 1500 tradesman for $1000 less. Seriously, what does this have on a ram? Width. Anyone dropping $59k CAD on a sxs that can't even go on pavement legally is insane. And I say that as someone who loves riding trails.
@@michaeldelarm1630 that's sad. It really is. The fact that Polaris feels justified in charging more than a pickup is offensive. Thus has half the tech (hi or low), 1/4 the capacity, and $1000 more. It's robbery and anyone dishing out that money for fitting in a trail is silly. This should be no more than $25-30k CAD for the Northstar. Polaris has raised it pricing on the sportsman 850's $2k in 1.5 years. Zero improvements. Same machine as always. As someone who comes from automotive manufacturing, I can tell you first hand the pricing is greed. The cost to manufacture goes down over time not up. If you make a fender mold for $100k, each additional unit sold lowers that initial investment per machine. There is no excuse to increase the price $2000 on a 7+ year old design. $3000+ to the touring, which is the old body style 13 years old. Flat out robbery.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors It's completely out of control. Used to be almost anybody could afford a decent ATV, and having a Ranger or Mule wasn't anything fancy. Ten years ago I could go into a Yamaha shop and get work done on my motorcycle same day. Now I can't even get a shade tree mechanic to work on an ATV for a month they're so backed up. SXS's are neat, don't get me wrong - when I first rode the Rhino 660 I knew good things were coming. I just didn't imagine it would become the country boy badge of honor alongside the jacked up 2500 diesel. There seems to be no limit to the end of this insane ATV/UTV market despite banks tightening up credit lending, stagnant wages, rampant inflation and these ever increasing prices. Don't get me started on the used market, you can't find anything worthwhile. Everything is rode hard and put up wet. Everything is trashed, needs maintenance or hardcore fixing which once again means you're month+ out on mechanic work of being able to ride, and they still want 10-20k for these abused models.
@@TheBandit7613 don't get me wrong "some" places allow them. But it's very hit/miss. If you are a lucky one that can use it on the road. Awesome. But that just isn't true for 95% if us. Here, they just passed legislation to allow road use. But municipalities have to grant it. Which doesn't seem to be happening.
Ive been following the release of this new generation Polaris ATV with interest. I have an XP900 and an XP1000 North Star, both are fantastic vehicles and very capable, but lack some durability for conditions on an Australian farm. The 1500XD wont be released in Australia until the end of the year, but although I am excited as it looks like it will overcome the durability issues of the previous models, I am skeptical about the affordability. I paid AU$20K for my XP900 in 2016, AU$35K for my XP1000 North Star last year; given that I am hearing pricing around US$50K I imagine they will be AU$65-70 which will price them out of the market!
Love to see the OEM’s innovating as at the end of the day, we the consumer wins… to a point. That point has to do with pricing. At a certain point, which I believe they have reached with the higher end models, they are now competing with the Wranglers and Tacomas etc.. I have a 2023 CanAm Defender Max Limited and I thought long and hard about just getting a base model Tacoma because I can do pretty much anything with one of those as I can with the Defender and have it be my daily driver to boot if I wanted. Love all these machines but the price is outstripping the value pretty quickly. Great job as always on the video.
We love our can am defender limited max. Solid doors, heat and air are mandatory for us. There's a few shortcomings for sure and we're waiting for the updated defender but if it comes in at 50k like this thing I'll have to pass.
What a great unit. Will note on some comments about pricing. Manufacturers don’t go out and make these machines on a whim. They ask and listen to customers and what they want and push to be the best or first. This costs money, R and D costs a ton of money. Without this we would be at a stand still. They build them for for what the end user asks for. Expensive yea, but a base Ford XLT costs $60,000, used to be $30,000 not that long ago. This is a huge step in the right direction to have a “3/4” unit and leading edge cab, motor and transmission. It’s good for a lot of consumer’s, not all of them. Excellent review as always.
R and D is something that matters nothing to me. That is on the company and should never be pushed off onto the customers. How do you add in that R and D cost. After you have made back the R and D cost. Are you going to lower the price of the product ??? Or keep charging the same price. People now days blindly accept this added in. And it is just wrong on all levels. Another thing. I could not careless about these companies. They are all the same. None are your friends and all want to separate you from your money. And the more they can separate you from. The more they will charge. So yeah i do not care what the R and D costs are. And they should be kept out of the price of the product.
Polaris just keeps rising the bar time after time. Other manufacturers cannot even compete anymore. Great job on the machine! Me and the wife will have to own two
Except for the fact that not very many people will pay 30k to 40k plus for a utility SxS that is not even street legal. I personally would not pay that price even if I could afford it. I look for the best value and the Expedition and Ranger 1500 ain't it
Man can am has some huge shoes to fill. A pro r competitor, update the g2 chassis, make the defender more competitive. Now this machine I think this is in the tax right off market.
Farm use is a whole different category itself. It's perfect for farms. We use ours for pulling sprayers and equipment over soft ground sometimes covering over a hundred acres a day. Polaris needs to advertise more for farmers. I find other brands at farm shows all the time but rarely Polaris.
Your right. This new machine has "farm use" written all over it. That would have to be 75% of its basis for development in my opinion. They definitely need to show this model at farm shows and county fairs. Why wouldn't you.
Guess I’ll join right in with everyone else . Human greed is sickening . I can’t wait to see people financing one of these insanely fast depreciating machines for 10 years at 6-9% and being so upside down their heads will stay spinning 360 degrees . I don’t fault loaded folks for snatching one up , it’s the using it to make normal volume machines “more profitable “, (pure greed) that the majority of middle class folks can get and insure while raising families . 45k ranger xd vs 45k Tacoma….which do you think will be in better shape and worth extensively more after even 3 years lol .
i cant remember if they have the recurculation or not but john deere was the first side by side to add the zone select to their hvac setup on their xuv 835r
So many people sleep on the JD 835's because of the HP rating. We had one and man, I did not need to run heat in the sub freezing temps and the air was ice cold in the summer. Polaris AC is hit or miss from what I found
I will believe the reliability when I see it in action, Nissan already uses that style transmission and it sucks. They constantly have problems time will tell if it’s any good
In Canada a Kawasaki Teryx 4 LE is around $25,000 plus tax. I have one and love it but this Polaris has about 1000x more features and capability. Sure it’s expensive but two things: 1) people will buy em. 2) the price reflects what you get compared to the competition…. Also, I’ve never understood the complaint about machine prices. If Polaris didn’t sell any high priced models they wouldn’t build any. Obviously there’s a market for them. If you don’t like the cost buy a 570 Ranger, pay $17,000 (CAN) and be happy with it…. Let the people who can afford these things have fun on em. I don’t know, I just don’t care how much they are cause I wouldn’t spend that kind of money on one…. I could but there’s no way my OCD would allow me to drive $60,000+ worth of sxs down a trail where I ride! No way!
@@kevinmasters7189 Well it isn’t going to stop…. Take a look at trucks, cars, etc. It’s happening everywhere…. I personally am choosing not to pay these prices but I don’t have control of what other people do…. I’m saying if people want to spend the money that’s their choice. You’re never going to live in a world where everyone stops buying trucks so Ford, GM, etc drop prices back to what they were 10 years ago. That’s just not going to happen.
@@pajamatime5750 that's the problem we or I should say we the people have become so passive that we let alot of things just happen while we say "well that's just the way it is"
For everybody that is complaining about the price of these Rangers. They are targeting the super-rich. Polaris sells a $12k UTV for those on a budget. No, you don't get A/C, but you do get a very capable UTV. You can find used Rangers for much less if you look around. You can enjoy a UTV even if you aren't rich.
@@blazenamber9176 I really don't know how you can just throw a number out and say this is what this should cost. You don't know the parts and engineering it took to make this vehicle. That engine and trans look expensive. I really don't know how they go about making a new vehicle. If they have a target cost, then work from there or if they just build something and figure out the cost later. Seems like a price point would be pretty important.
@@blazenamber9176 Because you are so smart you would price them at $35k. They are going to sell everyone they make for $50k to people with more money than they know what to do with. You are smart.
@mossman381 I am, thanks for noticing. And the fact they will sell all of them is irrelevant. The actual point of my comment is going right over your head. Why am I not surprised? Like the saying goes, " A fool and money part ways."
Awesome! I've owned a Polaris for over 20 years and it's a work horse. This new beast is a work of art. I'm impressed with the towing, hauling, suspension suspect. I'm not overly surprised that POLARIS would be the first to throw something of this caliber at the market. I think it will do well even with the price tag 👍🇺🇸🇨🇦
this answers a question that NOBODY asked. Seriously buy a pickup. its more comfortable, its the same price, its faster, it tows more, it hauls more, they're literally street legal everywhere, you can take a pickup in the mountains and the interstate. all these features on top of the very poor polaris build quality, no thanks lol. polaris has really gone off the rails and is completely out of touch with the sxs market. either they are terrified from whats coming soon from competitors, or they're throwing stuff against the wall and hopes it sticks
This is for the owner of the farm, the owner of the estate, the owner of the construction company etc. There's for sure a gap in the market because a Ranger North Star loaded is 40k, this thing is a loaded North Star plus so much more for 40k. I bet they're gonna sell like hot cakes. Trucks are too heavy to do what these do. Also the way the driveline works in these units is better for off road applications.
You’re just not the customer for it obviously lol. They will sell these as there are plenty of use cases for it. Perfect for the job site where it will be used locally primarily with the driver and/or cargo being loaded and unloaded frequently. Ideal for the farmer or property owner whom also likes to hit the trails on the weekend.
Same as moat of the other comments about price getting beyond dumb. I have not been impressed by my 1000cc fuel consumption so i can only imagine the 1500.
You had me fully interested until the steel drive belt. While arguably tougher than the rubber belt in slippage and overheating. It sounds exactly like a modern electronically controlled CVT. Which as everyone knows, are throwaway transmissions that are extremely expensive to replace. Time will tell the ultimate story, but I'll let this one ride for a while before jumping ship.
That was my thinking also. Audi uses steal belts in their CVTs as well and they are garbage throw away after 75k. Atleast a rubber belt is cheap and to replace
North Star is the JAM,my buddies give me crap about not being “outside” until it’s 115 in Arizona desert or 15 degrees in northern Arizona and there “outside” if it’s something you think you may use you will more than you think!
I’ve owned serval rangers and have really good adventures with them this one has my attention it appears to be over the top my only wish is that it has a lil bit more leg room in the cab because after a long day of riding I just need to stretch my legs just a lil more than the previous ranger has I going to call my dealer Joe hill in Bardstown Ky and have a talk with them about this ranger Great video thanks for the update
This thing is great but way out of control on the price point. The everyday Joe just can't afford these, even at the lowest model level. I know me and my friends can't touch these at their price. Polaris is raising the bar but we don't have the ability to drop this kind of cash for a UTV. It would be nice to see something more realistically made for us common folk.
go out now !!! head to the dealer and buy 2 because you can afford it !!! finance both !!! take the exstended package, longer warranty, finance it all, better yet pull out the one valid credit card you have left and swipe it, and watch that salesman smile, get a selfy. you can have it all america, its okay just keep buying, man thats gonna look good in that garage next to the other financed for 10 year never gonna get paid good decisions you made. dont go tomorrow buy it tonight, your children said to do it.
It’s great to see Polaris listening to their customers. I’ve been holding off purchasing a new full cab side by side on tracks…… perhaps this is the one! I’m curious however if Polaris engineered this vehicle to accommodate tracks and all the extra stress that those place on the transmission. Please tell me they made this vehicle to accept a set of tracks?
I really like this concept especially with having a ranch . The one question I had for polaris and didn't get a answer to is if your going all out with hvac and heated seats then why not make them air conditioned as well 🤷🏻 especially those hot days in the feild or when wearing shorts... just a thought
The Northstar does have ac I repeat it does come with heat & air Has had both for years only on the Northstar Ranger edition this one is no different and to add to that it sounds like a totally new system that has my attention
Even with a bed capacity of 1,500lbs, realistically what at that weight is fitting in the bed. I guess gives a metric of strength, otherwise it’s more a numbers claim like truck manus before the J2807 towing standard
Seeding a food plot with a spreader and harrow plus a bed full of fertilizer and seed comes to mind. Most people do not need this machine but there are a lot that do.
Can it actually ford water above the bottom of the cab/doors without filling up like a colander dropped in a sink. Will the suspension bushings still wear out in 250 miles? Will I have to pull off the wheels to grease the wheel bearings after every ride? Will I still have to replace the wheel bearings once a year. Will the carrier bearing explode in less than 1000 miles? Are the brake rotors small with undersized calipers and paper thin pads?
I don't see the middle class buying this machine due to its extreme high cost in this terrible economy. I love to go trail riding and have nice equipment to do it in but I like most people want to be able to afford it and enjoy using it with out stressing how to pay for it. I like the stuff under 20k and now there are good options under 20k. Polaris makes a nice machine but I don't see them selling very well especially in my area.
Fairly specific market for this unit, but they'll sell every single one they produce just like the Kinetic. They might not build a lot of them, but they'll sell all of them.
@dirttraxtv in the East Texas area where I live there are currently 2 dealers selling CFMOTO. Those dealers also sell Can Am, Honda, and Yamaha. CFMOTO out sells all other brands there. In this economy, middle-class America is looking for good quality at a good price. Polaris needs to go back to that. Can Am did with their new atv lineup.
Drive it for three hours and let the AC run. Let us know if it still works and if the cab gets hot asf. My current Northstar AC sucks. It blow hot after 20 min of driving. The cooling lines in the floor will boil a water bottle. For 50k I want those issues fixed or it’s a hard pass.
@@MidnightPolaris800 the dealers near me won’t service the AC. They all say it’s normal that it gets hot after 30 min of driving. If it’s 90 the air should be at 80 out the vents according to them.
Great review guys thanks again. Although I can’t wait again for the winter season and snowmobile tech!! 🇨🇦👋🍻. I hope to upgrade from my 2011 skidoo mxz tnt this year finally . What an amazing machine. I’m still happy with my 2016 Sportsman 850 SP HO lol. 😂. Some day it would be nice to own one of these although I think I’m going to go with a Yamaha yxz1000. People commenting about price. It is very expensive. Just like trucks now days. I think the consumer got to easy with financing at 84+ months etc. I’m blown away people still do that. I’m 35 now and we were always told anything over 60 months was crazy lol. I’ve seen 96 months financing on new trucks. That’s ridiculous your interest will be insane but all for that low biweekly payment I guess!
Polaris needs to put a 250 gallon fuel tank in the bed and drive it across country. 250 = 1500 lbs. Drive across Canada. I’ll be the driver if they would like to do such an expedition. How cool of an adventure with that be!
So I would say this thing with built up with all the bells and whistles……… $40,0000 I put that on the low! That’s a new truck. HAVE PEOPLE LOST THERE MINDS
This looks like it could really be worthwhile upgrade, if the price is right. This is a really impressive machine. It seems Polaris is really aiming to set every standard they can lately. Thanks for bringing us all the great info on it guys.
love your videos , and the solid reviews . But one would think at 246K subs , you would get a tripod . 27 min of screen shake . on another note , as big and beefy as these SxS are getting .. its not far from a jeep . and at 50k , it better come with its own pit crew lol
Kubota top speed about 23 mph. I almost bought one but damn it’s way to slow. I use my SXS to buy horse feed etc. It would take forever to drive to my local county store to buy feed or fuel ⛽️
I am always impressed. When I think they have reached the limit of these machines. They come out with the next thing. Looking forward to seeing what can am does in response. I agree. The transmission would be great for snow plowing or anything else. Shifting gears has never been great with these machines or atv’s for that matter.
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Listen it's really awesome to see the new tech and polaris pushing limits but, like we are seeing at this price point of the northstar at $49,599 US ( not including taxes, title, and dealer mark ups)you could honestly go get a really nice truck and make it more capable. I love seeing new stuff but, they really are forgetting about the demographic they used to target.
Which truck would you make more capable than the Ranger 1500? Or any Ranger? A Loaded regular Ranger costs 40k....
Everyone who bought a loaded ranger will hands down buy this.
You know you can still buy a ranger 1000?
They aren’t forgetting the demographic that they once sold Rangers to, they’re adding an additional demographic. Which isn’t me, but hey…
50k for a sxs???? Did they give us the us military price??? That’s so stupid to price your atv out of the working middle class. What kind of warranty does it have??? I won’t be able to afford a $800 dollar payment and maintenance cost.
@sonnynick1 sounds like this isn't the machine for you ... good thing polaris still offers a ranger 570.
$52K for the 6 seat northstar ultimate. $52K for a side by side!
Only people buying these will be people needing to write off a $52K "business expense".
..got that right.
They'll need the bigger payload to hual the savings to the bank....
For that it should have a V8
I'm glad you pointed out that this is for the type of person who drives a 3500 pickup without ever hauling anything. I completely agree.
Ditto !
Love Polaris's innovation, their will be suckers that buy it for 60k. But reality is a farmer can use his old pickup truck to do even more than what this can do. Everyone else in the world don't NEED this type of machine.
Want vs need.
Serious Ranger! I did a video last year comparing the Xpedition to the General. From a distance, they look very similar. Up close, VERY different! This new Ranger seems similar in comparison to the original Ranger. Polaris means business with their side by sides, well done.
I’ve got to say it is the first Polaris product that I would consider buying….they have nailed it. Unfortunately this price range is very high for a vehicle that cannot be considered street legal in Canada. If you could jump in this machine and go into a larger urban center, then I would consider it. Great review as always!!!!
i am the very, this is the first i would ever buy from Polaris im existed to see where this go's
Its also not legal off road either as it doesn't fit under the definition of an off road vehicle because of its weight lol.
everyone hating on polaris for making expensive if not Most expensive sxs yet , look at bright side, apparently polaris as a "huge company " ,, has confidence that the "economy" isnt gonna TANK OR CRASH.. so theres that , ive heard LOTS of talk about the economy tanking ect ect 2008 repeat or worse, its stuf like this that means we as utv/atv enthusiasts may very well be able to keep doing what we like a little longer and not be sitting at home without work and high priced gas ect ,. due to an economic fallout like we never saw before that lots of people are talking about ... lifes all what you make of it the glass can be half full or half empty
My 6x6 Can-Am tows 3500lbs. I use it for wood towing a bush buggy. The length of that will probably bring in some people but the extra traction I get with the 6x6 is going to be so much better towing thru mud and snow. It’s a cool machine but you will have to do a bit more convincing to get me to switch.
Really nice but the price is out of range for most buyers prices on sxs 's are getting ridiculous
Yeah, this is going to target a fairly specific buyer.
they are getting or they are???
..NOW somebody’s catching on. They get these ridiculously HIGH prices because people pay WILL PAY IT!
Great video. One thing I wanted to clear up is the 4x4 modes. Can Am Defender has had a multimode 4 wheel drive system since its been released in 2016. In the Defenders you have two switches one for 2wd and 4wd, then a separate switch next to it for the rear diff lock. Nice to see Polaris finally doing it also.
My 23 commander xmr has even more options. 2x4(open rear diff), automatic 4x4(with mud and trail mode)also has the ability of lock both diffs independently. I think can am really got this right
Polaris has had it for years in most of the sxs models
@mattferraro9124 no, this is new for Polaris. Polaris has had turf mode but the button worked as followed - 2wd turf mode, next locked rear diff, then 4wd. So you had to have the rear locked to get it into 4wd or Awd depending on year and model.
The hate on price is crazy. I think a lot of people forget that just cuz a company comes out with a cool new product, it doesnt always mean they are getting out of another market. Adding to their line up is never a bad thing. Its not their fault many customers have a fine wine taste on a beer budget. People can set their own budget. 15-25k goes a long way in the sxs market. That hasent changed. People just want more. And the reason they want nore is cuz it exists. You go back 15 years and nobody would have even guessed the market would be as diverse as it is. The more demographics these manufacturers can hit, the larger the customer base becomes. And the larger the customer base gets, the more support the industry as a whole will get.
Keep up the good work dirttrax. Ill keep checking your videos out. Helps keep me up to date on new products for when customers ask for more info.
I can understand what your saying, but disagree. The hate on price in my opinion is the lack of quality when comparing it to other vehicles in its price range. You would need to have a very specific reason to buy this vehicle or just don’t value money. I just recently checked this vehicle out in person and while there’s no doubt I would happily trade my 2020 XP 1000 for it, the price is outrageous. To make it clear right now, May 22, the sticker price is a whooping $57,589 CDN. A Ford Ranger is $20,000 less, an actual road worthy truck. So, how crazy is the hate on the price really?
Arizona old ladies and men are going to love this sweet new ride around the park and to the beach.
My dealer is getting one of the top model 6 seaters this year. I prepaid for it. My wife and I are taking it to Montana and spending the month of October living in the woods. I can’t wait.
I think it's a great machine and excellence for farming and ranches. But holy hot sh*t batman, I can get into a brand new 2023 Ram 1500 tradesman for $1000 less.
Seriously, what does this have on a ram? Width. Anyone dropping $59k CAD on a sxs that can't even go on pavement legally is insane. And I say that as someone who loves riding trails.
We have soooo many customers who dropped 40k on loaded Ranger north stars.... this new ones should sell themselves!
@@michaeldelarm1630 that's sad. It really is. The fact that Polaris feels justified in charging more than a pickup is offensive. Thus has half the tech (hi or low), 1/4 the capacity, and $1000 more. It's robbery and anyone dishing out that money for fitting in a trail is silly.
This should be no more than $25-30k CAD for the Northstar.
Polaris has raised it pricing on the sportsman 850's $2k in 1.5 years. Zero improvements. Same machine as always. As someone who comes from automotive manufacturing, I can tell you first hand the pricing is greed. The cost to manufacture goes down over time not up. If you make a fender mold for $100k, each additional unit sold lowers that initial investment per machine. There is no excuse to increase the price $2000 on a 7+ year old design. $3000+ to the touring, which is the old body style 13 years old.
Flat out robbery.
They can be road driven in the western US.
SxS's parked all over town. No interstate use.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors It's completely out of control. Used to be almost anybody could afford a decent ATV, and having a Ranger or Mule wasn't anything fancy. Ten years ago I could go into a Yamaha shop and get work done on my motorcycle same day. Now I can't even get a shade tree mechanic to work on an ATV for a month they're so backed up. SXS's are neat, don't get me wrong - when I first rode the Rhino 660 I knew good things were coming. I just didn't imagine it would become the country boy badge of honor alongside the jacked up 2500 diesel. There seems to be no limit to the end of this insane ATV/UTV market despite banks tightening up credit lending, stagnant wages, rampant inflation and these ever increasing prices. Don't get me started on the used market, you can't find anything worthwhile. Everything is rode hard and put up wet. Everything is trashed, needs maintenance or hardcore fixing which once again means you're month+ out on mechanic work of being able to ride, and they still want 10-20k for these abused models.
@@TheBandit7613 don't get me wrong "some" places allow them. But it's very hit/miss. If you are a lucky one that can use it on the road. Awesome.
But that just isn't true for 95% if us.
Here, they just passed legislation to allow road use. But municipalities have to grant it. Which doesn't seem to be happening.
Man since I’ve switched to Can Am I’ve never once had a problem!!
Ive been following the release of this new generation Polaris ATV with interest. I have an XP900 and an XP1000 North Star, both are fantastic vehicles and very capable, but lack some durability for conditions on an Australian farm. The 1500XD wont be released in Australia until the end of the year, but although I am excited as it looks like it will overcome the durability issues of the previous models, I am skeptical about the affordability. I paid AU$20K for my XP900 in 2016, AU$35K for my XP1000 North Star last year; given that I am hearing pricing around US$50K I imagine they will be AU$65-70 which will price them out of the market!
A long box version would be cool too! Also, I would have to make it road legal. I would drive that thing everywhere.
The bed is bigger than the 900.
Love to see the OEM’s innovating as at the end of the day, we the consumer wins… to a point. That point has to do with pricing.
At a certain point, which I believe they have reached with the higher end models, they are now competing with the Wranglers and Tacomas etc.. I have a 2023 CanAm Defender Max Limited and I thought long and hard about just getting a base model Tacoma because I can do pretty much anything with one of those as I can with the Defender and have it be my daily driver to boot if I wanted.
Love all these machines but the price is outstripping the value pretty quickly.
Great job as always on the video.
How wide is a Tacoma?
@@danlux4954 the track is right at 63 inches and the total width is right at 74 1/2 inches.
I can promise you NEXT year, there’ll be a HIGHER, well-intended and ‘reasonable’ price INCREASE THEN too.
@@m118lr You got that right!
I think they should bring back the Suzuki samurai. Street legal and just as compact and probably cheaper.
Or a Lada, LOL!!
What an AMAZING detailed video of the new Ranger XD 1500!
With a tip-out windshield, why not add a rear slider window for more and better air flow through cab ?
Why suicide doors? The expedition has standard forward opening doors?
We love our can am defender limited max. Solid doors, heat and air are mandatory for us. There's a few shortcomings for sure and we're waiting for the updated defender but if it comes in at 50k like this thing I'll have to pass.
Defender is a great machine 👍
What a great unit. Will note on some comments about pricing. Manufacturers don’t go out and make these machines on a whim. They ask and listen to customers and what they want and push to be the best or first. This costs money, R and D costs a ton of money. Without this we would be at a stand still. They build them for for what the end user asks for. Expensive yea, but a base Ford XLT costs $60,000, used to be $30,000 not that long ago. This is a huge step in the right direction to have a “3/4” unit and leading edge cab, motor and transmission. It’s good for a lot of consumer’s, not all of them. Excellent review as always.
R and D is something that matters nothing to me. That is on the company and should never be pushed off onto the customers. How do you add in that R and D cost. After you have made back the R and D cost. Are you going to lower the price of the product ??? Or keep charging the same price. People now days blindly accept this added in. And it is just wrong on all levels. Another thing. I could not careless about these companies. They are all the same. None are your friends and all want to separate you from your money. And the more they can separate you from. The more they will charge. So yeah i do not care what the R and D costs are. And they should be kept out of the price of the product.
With that being said..I’D TAKE THE TRUCK THEN.
@@suzie9874…you’re EXACTLY right! People PAY IT..that’s WHY it works.
@@m118lr And this is what is so wrong with the world today.
Polaris just keeps rising the bar time after time. Other manufacturers cannot even compete anymore. Great job on the machine! Me and the wife will have to own two
Right on!
Except for the fact that not very many people will pay 30k to 40k plus for a utility SxS that is not even street legal. I personally would not pay that price even if I could afford it. I look for the best value and the Expedition and Ranger 1500 ain't it
@@travisbarr5367..you’ve nailed it. INSANELY OVER-priced..like virtually every other product across the automotive/recreational industry!
@@travisbarr5367name a vehicle that is priced right?
@@millertime8835 I'll give you a whole brand CFMOTO
Prices like this are why Ram/Jeep products are selling so well
Might as well buy a Ford Ranger Put a lift kit and some tires on it and call it your new SxS.
Man can am has some huge shoes to fill. A pro r competitor, update the g2 chassis, make the defender more competitive. Now this machine I think this is in the tax right off market.
About the only comment here thats on point lol
24 defender limited has individual front and rear lockers. And it is awesome to have that kindnof control on your drive train
Farm use is a whole different category itself. It's perfect for farms. We use ours for pulling sprayers and equipment over soft ground sometimes covering over a hundred acres a day. Polaris needs to advertise more for farmers. I find other brands at farm shows all the time but rarely Polaris.
Your right. This new machine has "farm use" written all over it. That would have to be 75% of its basis for development in my opinion. They definitely need to show this model at farm shows and county fairs. Why wouldn't you.
Polaris top of the line great riding machines till they start falling apart and squeaking after a couple months of use.
Guess I’ll join right in with everyone else . Human greed is sickening .
I can’t wait to see people financing one of these insanely fast depreciating machines for 10 years at 6-9% and being so upside down their heads will stay spinning 360 degrees .
I don’t fault loaded folks for snatching one up , it’s the using it to make normal volume machines “more profitable “, (pure greed) that the majority of middle class folks can get and insure while raising families .
45k ranger xd vs 45k Tacoma….which do you think will be in better shape and worth extensively more after even 3 years lol .
i cant remember if they have the recurculation or not but john deere was the first side by side to add the zone select to their hvac setup on their xuv 835r
So many people sleep on the JD 835's because of the HP rating. We had one and man, I did not need to run heat in the sub freezing temps and the air was ice cold in the summer. Polaris AC is hit or miss from what I found
I will believe the reliability when I see it in action, Nissan already uses that style transmission and it sucks. They constantly have problems time will tell if it’s any good
Canam defender atleast from 2019 you can leave the rear end unlocked and put it in 4x4 so it's only 3wd
Jeep wrangler Rubicon X fully loaded is $61,000 this polaris fully loaded 4 doors are $63,000. What the actual hell are they thinking with price.
Let's be honest, this should be a 27k sxs at most.
In Canada a Kawasaki Teryx 4 LE is around $25,000 plus tax. I have one and love it but this Polaris has about 1000x more features and capability. Sure it’s expensive but two things: 1) people will buy em. 2) the price reflects what you get compared to the competition…. Also, I’ve never understood the complaint about machine prices. If Polaris didn’t sell any high priced models they wouldn’t build any. Obviously there’s a market for them. If you don’t like the cost buy a 570 Ranger, pay $17,000 (CAN) and be happy with it…. Let the people who can afford these things have fun on em. I don’t know, I just don’t care how much they are cause I wouldn’t spend that kind of money on one…. I could but there’s no way my OCD would allow me to drive $60,000+ worth of sxs down a trail where I ride! No way!
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@@pajamatime5750that type of thinking is half the reason prices on everything are hyper inflated at this point in time.
@@kevinmasters7189 Well it isn’t going to stop…. Take a look at trucks, cars, etc. It’s happening everywhere…. I personally am choosing not to pay these prices but I don’t have control of what other people do…. I’m saying if people want to spend the money that’s their choice. You’re never going to live in a world where everyone stops buying trucks so Ford, GM, etc drop prices back to what they were 10 years ago. That’s just not going to happen.
@@pajamatime5750 that's the problem we or I should say we the people have become so passive that we let alot of things just happen while we say "well that's just the way it is"
See.....this is what I've wanted out of a Ranger since day 1. Too bad I can't afford one though. 😎
…wonder why?
Polaris is making a nice unit. The Xpedition. Looks pretty good.
For $45k, you could buy 3 cheap pick up trucks
How does the HD Ranger compare to the Expedition? Would love to see a comparison. Thanks and keep up the awesome content!
For everybody that is complaining about the price of these Rangers. They are targeting the super-rich. Polaris sells a $12k UTV for those on a budget. No, you don't get A/C, but you do get a very capable UTV. You can find used Rangers for much less if you look around. You can enjoy a UTV even if you aren't rich.
Not complaining, it's absolute comedy. This should be 35k CAD Tops
@@blazenamber9176 I really don't know how you can just throw a number out and say this is what this should cost. You don't know the parts and engineering it took to make this vehicle. That engine and trans look expensive. I really don't know how they go about making a new vehicle. If they have a target cost, then work from there or if they just build something and figure out the cost later. Seems like a price point would be pretty important.
@mossman381 Just did. And if you're not bright enough to figure it out, that's not my problem.
@@blazenamber9176 Because you are so smart you would price them at $35k. They are going to sell everyone they make for $50k to people with more money than they know what to do with. You are smart.
@mossman381 I am, thanks for noticing. And the fact they will sell all of them is irrelevant. The actual point of my comment is going right over your head. Why am I not surprised? Like the saying goes, " A fool and money part ways."
It's awesome but $10K more than a brand new Toyota Tacoma ugh
So.......I bet they will come out with a 6x6 version like CanAm Defender has. Talk about a beast that would be!
Awesome! I've owned a Polaris for over 20 years and it's a work horse. This new beast is a work of art. I'm impressed with the towing, hauling, suspension suspect. I'm not overly surprised that POLARIS would be the first to throw something of this caliber at the market. I think it will do well even with the price tag 👍🇺🇸🇨🇦
Awesome!
….I’d take THAT bet..that it don’t.
This is a really cool machine, but it makes me appreciate my 2020 XMR that i paid 19800 bran new. I think these machines are just getting to expensive
I’m still waiting for the long bed version like the canam defender pro… which also can haul #1500 ;)
this answers a question that NOBODY asked. Seriously buy a pickup. its more comfortable, its the same price, its faster, it tows more, it hauls more, they're literally street legal everywhere, you can take a pickup in the mountains and the interstate. all these features on top of the very poor polaris build quality, no thanks lol. polaris has really gone off the rails and is completely out of touch with the sxs market. either they are terrified from whats coming soon from competitors, or they're throwing stuff against the wall and hopes it sticks
I agree I don't see the point of this thing.
People that have more money than they need it's not for 99% or society
This is for the owner of the farm, the owner of the estate, the owner of the construction company etc.
There's for sure a gap in the market because a Ranger North Star loaded is 40k, this thing is a loaded North Star plus so much more for 40k. I bet they're gonna sell like hot cakes.
Trucks are too heavy to do what these do. Also the way the driveline works in these units is better for off road applications.
This comment reminds me of when someone watches a video and then says all the opposite of what the video said 😂
You’re just not the customer for it obviously lol. They will sell these as there are plenty of use cases for it. Perfect for the job site where it will be used locally primarily with the driver and/or cargo being loaded and unloaded frequently. Ideal for the farmer or property owner whom also likes to hit the trails on the weekend.
Same as moat of the other comments about price getting beyond dumb. I have not been impressed by my 1000cc fuel consumption so i can only imagine the 1500.
Great job Polaris! Nice to see you’re always leading from the front. Can’t wait to get mine.
Prices are getting out of hand. After tax, freight, setup, fuel surcharge, doc fees your at $60k for the top of the line northstar.
@@joshowens2219…INSANELY OVER-priced. For that price they SHOULD at minimum THROW IN THE TRAILER to haul it home with..
Great detailed review, you definitely have a ton of knowledge of the vehicle!
Polaris hit a home run.
I'd personally get the Crew version.
What a nice rig.
It is a beautiful machine. Pricey but nicey.
Killer video man. Are y'all going to do a real video on the 500-700 Can-am ATVs?
Absolutely. Just waiting on delivery of both of these ATVs. We already have a couple cool stories planned out. Stay tuned!!
You had me fully interested until the steel drive belt. While arguably tougher than the rubber belt in slippage and overheating. It sounds exactly like a modern electronically controlled CVT. Which as everyone knows, are throwaway transmissions that are extremely expensive to replace. Time will tell the ultimate story, but I'll let this one ride for a while before jumping ship.
That was my thinking also. Audi uses steal belts in their CVTs as well and they are garbage throw away after 75k. Atleast a rubber belt is cheap and to replace
@@mattreb5748how many people put 75k miles on a side by side?
North Star is the JAM,my buddies give me crap about not being “outside” until it’s 115 in Arizona desert or 15 degrees in northern Arizona and there “outside” if it’s something you think you may use you will more than you think!
I’ve owned serval rangers and have really good adventures with them this one has my attention it appears to be over the top my only wish is that it has a lil bit more leg room in the cab because after a long day of riding I just need to stretch my legs just a lil more than the previous ranger has I going to call my dealer Joe hill in Bardstown Ky and have a talk with them about this ranger
Great video thanks for the update
This thing is great but way out of control on the price point. The everyday Joe just can't afford these, even at the lowest model level. I know me and my friends can't touch these at their price. Polaris is raising the bar but we don't have the ability to drop this kind of cash for a UTV. It would be nice to see something more realistically made for us common folk.
Buy 4 Yamaha Raptors instead and go riding with all your buddies.
So you can afford a brand new car that is introducing new tech as well? Because that is what this rig is doing
go out now !!! head to the dealer and buy 2 because you can afford it !!! finance both !!! take the exstended package, longer warranty, finance it all, better yet pull out the one valid credit card you have left and swipe it, and watch that salesman smile, get a selfy. you can have it all america, its okay just keep buying, man thats gonna look good in that garage next to the other financed for 10 year never gonna get paid good decisions you made. dont go tomorrow buy it tonight, your children said to do it.
FYI, the old solid rear axle rangers used a lever to lock and unlock the rear diff and you could run 4wd with the rear diff unlocked
Love the machine and great job telling us about it
Thanks for watching!
It’s great to see Polaris listening to their customers. I’ve been holding off purchasing a new full cab side by side on tracks…… perhaps this is the one!
I’m curious however if Polaris engineered this vehicle to accommodate tracks and all the extra stress that those place on the transmission. Please tell me they made this vehicle to accept a set of tracks?
It does accept tracks
My kind of machine. I will definitely be looking at one in the future.
For that money, you could buy a pick-up truck
@MatthewSmith-to1hz
pre owned ford raptor seems more practical
Cant wait for Can am to match or exceed this.
It's non a SxS anymore, it's a midsize truck but more expensive.
Can't wait for your test drive
I really like this concept especially with having a ranch . The one question I had for polaris and didn't get a answer to is if your going all out with hvac and heated seats then why not make them air conditioned as well 🤷🏻 especially those hot days in the feild or when wearing shorts... just a thought
North Star model DOES have air conditioning
@@mattanderson4768 yes but not air conditioned seats. They are only heated seats
The Northstar does have ac I repeat it does come with heat & air
Has had both for years only on the Northstar Ranger edition this one is no different and to add to that it sounds like a totally new system that has my attention
@@tomsfunchannel it does not come with air conditioned seats only heated seats
… MAN! We HAVE grown soft! AC “seats”?! Heck I didn’t even know there was such a thing! Toughen up!
Wait until you see the price when that new transmission tanks !
Even with a bed capacity of 1,500lbs, realistically what at that weight is fitting in the bed. I guess gives a metric of strength, otherwise it’s more a numbers claim like truck manus before the J2807 towing standard
Seeding a food plot with a spreader and harrow plus a bed full of fertilizer and seed comes to mind. Most people do not need this machine but there are a lot that do.
Large excavator bucket, or attachment, or pallet of materials to move around a job site
Can it actually ford water above the bottom of the cab/doors without filling up like a colander dropped in a sink. Will the suspension bushings still wear out in 250 miles? Will I have to pull off the wheels to grease the wheel bearings after every ride? Will I still have to replace the wheel bearings once a year. Will the carrier bearing explode in less than 1000 miles? Are the brake rotors small with undersized calipers and paper thin pads?
You guys will have to test out what the biggest tire setup it will fit
I don't see the middle class buying this machine due to its extreme high cost in this terrible economy. I love to go trail riding and have nice equipment to do it in but I like most people want to be able to afford it and enjoy using it with out stressing how to pay for it. I like the stuff under 20k and now there are good options under 20k. Polaris makes a nice machine but I don't see them selling very well especially in my area.
Fairly specific market for this unit, but they'll sell every single one they produce just like the Kinetic. They might not build a lot of them, but they'll sell all of them.
@dirttraxtv in the East Texas area where I live there are currently 2 dealers selling CFMOTO. Those dealers also sell Can Am, Honda, and Yamaha. CFMOTO out sells all other brands there. In this economy, middle-class America is looking for good quality at a good price. Polaris needs to go back to that. Can Am did with their new atv lineup.
I wonder how it’ll do down here in the south when it’s time to put portals and larger tires. Lifetime belt!!!!
Can't wait to see some of the monsters that get built!!
Too bad most can’t afford them. I remember my first one in 2008 was limited edition $9500 otd
Drive it for three hours and let the AC run. Let us know if it still works and if the cab gets hot asf. My current Northstar AC sucks. It blow hot after 20 min of driving. The cooling lines in the floor will boil a water bottle. For 50k I want those issues fixed or it’s a hard pass.
Why don't you make a complaint with the dealer you got it from ?
@@MidnightPolaris800 the dealers near me won’t service the AC. They all say it’s normal that it gets hot after 30 min of driving. If it’s 90 the air should be at 80 out the vents according to them.
My ac works great
@@Lemmon1222 I have 5 friends with Northstar rangers. We all have ac issues. If yours is working well then you are a very lucky man
Great review guys thanks again. Although I can’t wait again for the winter season and snowmobile tech!! 🇨🇦👋🍻. I hope to upgrade from my 2011 skidoo mxz tnt this year finally . What an amazing machine. I’m still happy with my 2016 Sportsman 850 SP HO lol. 😂. Some day it would be nice to own one of these although I think I’m going to go with a Yamaha yxz1000. People commenting about price. It is very expensive. Just like trucks now days. I think the consumer got to easy with financing at 84+ months etc. I’m blown away people still do that. I’m 35 now and we were always told anything over 60 months was crazy lol. I’ve seen 96 months financing on new trucks. That’s ridiculous your interest will be insane but all for that low biweekly payment I guess!
So does it have clutch packs that control the engagement? I think automotive cvt’s have a torque converter
Unbelievable as technical and technological evolution on this vehicle...everything has been redesigned...I love the new transmission 🤩
Polaris needs to put a 250 gallon fuel tank in the bed and drive it across country. 250 = 1500 lbs. Drive across Canada. I’ll be the driver if they would like to do such an expedition. How cool of an adventure with that be!
Price is insane get a nice new truck for that
It looks like there’s not any more leg room than the original Ranger, would you agree with that?
Great video guys ! 🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it!
So I would say this thing with built up with all the bells and whistles……… $40,0000 I put that on the low! That’s a new truck. HAVE PEOPLE LOST THERE MINDS
Well I low balled that one 50k
1500 cc is over the limit of 1000 cc for the description of this vehicle according to the highway traffic act for us in Ontario
This looks like it could really be worthwhile upgrade, if the price is right. This is a really impressive machine. It seems Polaris is really aiming to set every standard they can lately. Thanks for bringing us all the great info on it guys.
50 thousand dollars. US.
Thanks for watching, Ted!!
How many miles does Polaris claim that 1500 motor is good for??? At that price we should be getting 50,000 miles out of that motor!!
I would like to see more of the Polaris content New players
love your videos , and the solid reviews . But one would think at 246K subs , you would get a tripod . 27 min of screen shake . on another note , as big and beefy as these SxS are getting .. its not far from a jeep . and at 50k , it better come with its own pit crew lol
That machine is so absurd yet so cool at the same time.
Ok now that’s a really good heat and ac setup but bro my kubota rtv x1100c came with all of that in 2014 😅😅
Polaris has had HVAC for several years. This unit has it too.
Kubota top speed about 23 mph. I almost bought one but damn it’s way to slow. I use my SXS to buy horse feed etc. It would take forever to drive to my local county store to buy feed or fuel ⛽️
1500? I thought there was an industry limit to 1000 for SXS's?
Are you serious?
Means nothing. Ok, so it's not a SxS. It's a buggy.
Next?
@@drew4769 I have never seen a Polaris 2000cc or 3000cc SXS have you???
@mixflip lol yes its called the RZR Pro R
Cool machine will be interesting to see how they sell
It's sad that affordability is obsolete these days
Typical Polaris, always a decade ahead of the competition! 👍👍
And the price is at least 2 decades ahead, lol.
Yet so far behind in dependability compared to the 4 jap brands.
Super in-depth 🙏
Switched from an JD gator 835R signature edition to this unit exactly with some accessories. Paid cash, and it's just a nice write off.
at this point they just need to get the safety ratings and be road going vehicles.
I wonder if they will consider bringing over the Kinetic XP drivetrain with a bigger battery to match.
Does it come with a three year bumper to bumper unlimited warranty? It should at that price🤷🏻♂️
Should have a warranty like a truck.
Yamaha or honda need something that size
Wow,nice agresive machine more good luck ,my dream lhave same-day great,asawe good ,bless more
Polaris Ranger XD1500 Northstar Ultimate 3 seater, base msrp $44,999. Ford F150 XLT 4X4 base msrp $45,590. Draw your own conclusions.
I am always impressed. When I think they have reached the limit of these machines. They come out with the next thing. Looking forward to seeing what can am does in response.
I agree. The transmission would be great for snow plowing or anything else. Shifting gears has never been great with these machines or atv’s for that matter.