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- A vast underground network of traffickers has made a living convincing poor mothers in Bulgaria to sell their infants to rich Greek couples. From the courts, to the slums, to the NGOs fighting to put an end to the practice, VICE Greece took a deep dive into how the trafficking ring functions-and the toll it takes on both the mothers and their children.
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Our colleagues from VICE Greece take us into the dark underbelly of human trafficking.
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Vice first of all just call this what it is;
Roma selling their kids.
Whole Europe knows this. Secondly; Fuck your refugee loving bullshit the best works of Vice left with McInnes
fucking seriously, I can't believe they can still call themselves "Vice"... and yet, it's the only ONE thing they have going for them. The person in charge of putting that overlay on their videos has the most important job in the whole company.
How about shedding some light on the DC/Hollywood/Vatican pedo rings?
viking by nature Its all the same neo liberal bullshit mate, thinking about what to reply to you made me feel like going to TYT and troll them a bit.
Make the world great again, one triggered beta at a time
what you should be doing is telling where these kids end up once they're sold.you're covering up the BIG story.
Organ selling. Trafficking...
moron
Where do they end up?
Rescue them. Find a solution.
They end up being sacrificed .. then they eat and drink from their flesh .. its something called adrenochrome that the are really obsessed about, you should look it up ..
Hate that each parent acts as if their child is going to some rich family when in reality, that may encompass 10%.
That encompass's 0% rich people could have a baby adopted the real way. The people who are buying these children don't want them known by the government I wonder why.
@@NCPino
"That encompass's 0% rich people could have a baby adopted the real way."
I am sorry but are you an expert on Greek adoption laws or something? Do you have any sources to back that up?
According to this VICE documentary( which I guess you weren't paying much attention to) adopting a kid in Greece takes a minimum of 4 years which if true means that even a rich couple won't be able to adopt a baby.
Do a special on the insane amount of human trafficking that happens each year for the Super Bowl. It’s disgusting.
animal kindness we have gypsies in America. like a million or something. (But yes, we don't know about this problem)
Alice Liu it's not the same as in Europe tho. We have more and they have more of a culture difference
When the Super Bowl was here in Houston, a huge sting happened specifically for people trying to buy children then another for prostitution.
The numbers were nuts.
Deidre Stephens wait, what happened? I never heard of this.
S P The Super Bowl is the top human/slave/sex trafficking event every year in America. It happens every single year. The FBI has to set up a special field office since it’s well known that white supremacists have infiltrated city, county, and state law enforcement agencies around the country. Which is why many horrible crimes get swept under or turned a blind eye to. The feds are needed to help stop these atrocities as most normal citizens are completely oblivious to this epidemic.
This used to happen a lot in Guatemala (where my mom is from) where woman would sell their babies or babies would be kidnapped from the hospital but most of them ended up in the untied states with american families. The kidnapping got so bad that they closed off international adoptions because it was very hard to know which children where given willingly and which ones where kidnapped.
Selling children like selling objects...like they aren't actual human beings. Disgusting that this happens all over the world...and not just with children but people of any age.
You do it with animals 😂 im not justifying their actions,but your one in the same your humanistic views ruin this world as well as there views 😂💯
I literally can’t even imagine what happens to some of those poor kids...
Some trafficking into Warehouses and put in freezers for organs.
@@DeadRedLipBombshellHutto That's not how organ transplants work. A human organ once frozen is no use except as dog food.
Young kids having to wear bracelets that say they're "not for sale." wtf
How did that woman have one child, sell the 2nd one and have a 3rd one on the way all by the age of 20?
Seriously messed up
Seems as if selling babies is a full time Hustle for her..
Probably hated the 2nd one lol
I am sure the sex educationand access to healthcare and services are top notch!
it is very common for gypsies to have their first child in their early teens.
Poverty.
I can feel their utter hopelessness through the screen. I wouldn't know how to help if I could. I mean the poverty and desperation is like some never ending generational curse omg. What can they do to change their situation?
You don't sound like you've ever tried to help someone in your life. You're wishing death on people who can't help themselves, you're heartless.
elukok said it all it is , plus they have the opportunity for free education but is more beneficial to send their children (usually 5+) to beg and steal .
There is no help for someone who discriminates, and groups an entire ethnicity either, your parents should be ashamed that they taught you to be this way smh. You are embarrassing.
Johnson Tang - its easy to tell that you would help and change their life when you are just sitting behind monitor without having any experience with them. My offer is still valid - give me your contact, i will find you a place where you can live with them and help. Then we can talk again.
Perlman Fredy - vast majority of wite folk doesnt do that while majority of gypsies does. Quite a difference. There are exceptions on both sides of course.
me too i agree i am sure there may be some small things we could maybe do
just suggestions well maybe we can start spreading the wordyou know let people know about the problem/ I'm a graphic design so i can make osters and flyers forfree of charge :) for website usly though it will cost only too print those...but ts not here i think its all over the world this and sex trade is happening even in the USwhere i live ) -- i don't knowmuch we can do but i think we can try and help as much as we ca doing something is always better than doing nothing...and since i bliee i GOD i will g w too pray for thren too
When my mother traveled to Greece as a child an old woman apparently offered to buy her, because the woman had never seen a blonde child before.
Yes that happend to me too,
In Greece and Turkey, couple off men and woman offered to buy me😬
melissarozalia really? Were you scared? Or how old were you to realize what they said
@@lorenaestrada323 i was 12 years old
@Alexis Martinez indeed
@Alexis Martinez eh It's not okay. What makes u think that 🤨
i thought my parents were bad lol nevermind then
shane lard yes they are they made the wrong decision they would of been rich by now
shane lard bad parents are bad parents there is a spectrum
they are
@Aubrey Lynne well thank you for responding to a 3 year old comment, my parents were both physically and mentally abusive when I turned 18 about two and a half years ago I cut all contact with them and have been living a better life since then.
@@monkasteele6050 good 4 you! glad to hear your ok 👌
Dam I can't even imagine giving away my son or any other babies I have in the future. I don't know about other mothers but when I was pregnant I could feel a connection with my baby and I wanted to do everything in my power to care and love him. When he was born it was the happiest moment in my life. I can't even imagine the pain and sadness these women feel selling their babies but I understand why. They need to survive.
At first I was like "its like adoption? Why is this bad the kids are getting better lives, I don't see a problem?" but I read the comments and, yeah, we totally don't know what happens to the kids once they're sold, it'd be naive to think they ALL went to live normal lives :(
Probably only 5% actually get lucky going to live with a normal family.
Plot Twist: That Kindergarten teacher is the ring leader.
Rui Rong seems like the perfect plot for a van damme straight to film flick 👍
Plot twist: You’re the ringleader! 😱😂
Oh my 🤯
Stupid ass comments
Fuck you stupid asses
Margret M. K
Let’s talk about the people who buy these baby’s who “don’t realize they came from a trafficking ring” “they’re buying them bc they don’t want to wait the long process adopting one legally” story she was talking about..🤨🤦♀️don’t sound right.
Those bracelet made me sad. How sad a child has to live that way.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the pregnant woman who got tricked tries to sell her baby again in order to be able to afford electricity and other basic things that she doesn't have acces to right now. The gypsy community is very segregated in Bulgaria and although it is well known that they often sell their babies, it's not really something that people talk about. Things aren't looking optimistic either.
I'd be surprised if she wasnt planning on selling one in the future (or attempting to sell)...why have 1.5 kids if she can't even meet her own needs?
So sad
this really hurts it's painful but it's real it's reality it's real human beings taken advantage of
The girl who sold her baby referred the baby as "it"
Strange ....
I'm sure she's sad but seems more upset about not receiving the money
thought the same thing
FYI word "child" in her language is neutral, you can't translate it in English only as IT as English has only masculine and feminine
Read body language and her eyes and facial features. She's not telling the whole truth.
Absolutely ! She was using her womb as a money box. Didn't Give a toss about the sold baby.
This is how desperate and impoverished so many other countries are. Americans have no idea how lucky they are 💯
we're absolutely lucky to live in america but human trafficking is not something we're exempt from. this desperation and poverty is in every country
America is no better off. 😶
I'm a Bulgarian who lives in Bulgaria. We really do have an issue with the Roma (Gypsy) minority in the country. First and foremost, they outright refuse to integrate in our society. Most of them prefer to live in the extreme conditions described in the documentary cause it's just easier for them. There are some exceptions, of course, but generally they prefer to get by on welfare programs and supplement their income by stealing, begging.... selling children, etc. Actually most of them do have access to water and electricity and do not pay any utility bills. If a Bulgarian is late with their electricity bill they get cut off instantaneously while Roma people get a pass cause the authorities are basically afraid to get into the ghettos without a dozen policemen accompanying them. The other EU countries are constantly pressuring us to integrate them but when they go to Western Europe (since they are EU citizens as well), they get sent back ASAP cause Western Europe can't handle them either.
Sadly there's really nowhere to deport them to. No country wants them. All we can do is either tolerate them or ... you know ...
Frank Jaegar no Gypsy ancestry traces back to india. These are my people sadly.
I also saw that there was a protest regarding the Gypsies. Is it really that bad? I mean here in Macedonia most of the Roma population are already integrated and don't cause any problems.
If you are referring to the most recent protest in Asenovgrad, from last week, the issue there was that a bunch of gypsies had a confrontation with the town's junior rowing team and their coaches, and then they went
back to their neighborhood, gathered a bigger force and then proceeded to attack the kids and their parents with sticks, stones and whatever else they could find. They broke the arms of a couple of kinds and a lot
of people suffered minor injuries. So, of course, a huge community uproar followed against the ghetto and the police had to protect the people in it for a few days. So, yeah, problems do occur. It's not extremely bad but still it is unfortunate that such things happen at all. We have a lot of other minorities in the country, for instance the Turkish minority is not very small, but we have not had such issue with them as they could be considered integrated in the society.
The same exactly are in Greece and in Romania.
That 20 year old gypsy is only sad because she didn't get money for the kid, I don't believe her for a second
If any of you went through half the struggle she went through, I'd maybe give your comments some consideration. But I highly doubt that you did. She is 20 years old, when I was 20, I was getting my undergrad degree while my parents provided everything for me, not trying to make a living on my own for 3 babies.
Its sad that those subhuman beings place the money's value above the children's...
The Handmaid's Tale isn't as nearly dystopian as we'd like to think...
oh... they're talking about my country.... I've heard this before!
God bless that woman at “The Sun” daycare center. She is a beautiful example of a good human soul in this world who fights for the innocent ones who have no voice and can really make a difference in her community. If many more people were Good like her, this world would be a better place.
The young girl who was tricked into sell her baby was so beautiful. So sad for her.
6:05 "I'm have 5 children and I'm unemployed. What am I supposed to eat? Stones?" No... you're supposed to get a job.
are all alright in the head? there is an economic crisis, there are not jobs. how were they supposed to know this would come 10 years ago when they were having the kids? what's wrong with you?
Jasmin, you can't take teenage youtube trolls sitting in their parents basements so seriously.
+Perlman Fredy dam I've been spooked
It is, unfortunately, an embarrassment to Stirner's theory itself.
Take the statement "stop having kids you can't support who will grow up in poverty too you fucking idiot."
This is an absurd claim from a historical materialist perspective. It is even more absurd from an existentialist one. With the former, your entire worldly experience is determined by conditions that you yourself had no say in and can only attempt to understand.
In the latter, you are subjected to a throwness into a context which you are immediately forced to contend with, regardless of moral assumptions and presuppositions.
Only non-thinking beings make absolutely fucking stupid statements like "just don't be poor" over youtube.
i hope it goes well that girl with no identity and that luck finds her! ❤️
I would buy all this children to just to take them away from this suffering and give them a life a child deserves. This is heart breaking 😢. This world is so ugly and all these people should pay
Oh no! Selling your own child out of desperation is unacceptable!!!!
awe wahhh i sold my baby and they didnt pay me how dare they do such a horrible thing now im going to tell my story like a victim
She's a 20 year old girl who was even younger when this happened. she obviously has nothing in her life and you don't know what living in that situation is. i am not condoning what she did but try to be a little understanding.
She already has one kid, a sold kid, and another kid on the way. She needs birthcontrol and running water. She can't afford herself, she should stop having kids.
Heelcrackbangs men should start taking responsibility of the women they getting pregnant too? Why is it women are the only ones to suffer the stigma and burden. How about men use condoms. Always the females fault isn't it.
It is always the womans burden. Men are praised for having as many children possible with many many women. I wish males would be real men and take care of their responsibilities. Men need forced vasectomies after they keep making babies and not feeding them. This will never change in our lifetime. Its a global messed up problem. Anybody can breed, but that doesn't make you a parent. Anyone can be a dad, but a real man is a father.
You're so right. In many places, women don't have a say if they'll have more children or not. Some religions and cultures forbid women from being on birth control which allows men to impregnate them as much as they want. In many places in the world, women and wives are still regarded as property. Where are all these men that are creating these children? Why haven't any of them been highlighted and why is there no responsibility placed on them? People act like women make themselves pregnant.
I grew up as the poor one and I would have much rather been on the other side. I wouldn’t put an end to this. The kids have a chance at least with a family that is well off and wants them. It’s harder to go days without food sitting next to the one that pushed u out verses a full tummy and knowing what it would be like if I stayed
I have alot if friends that have been adopted from poor countries Their parents are amazing very kind people and my friends are doing really good now but not everyone is nice in the world
I’m reaching here but did anyone notice the blurred picture @ 17:31 looks like it could be Ghislaine Maxwell?🧐😂
Ah, so THIS is why Tom Hanks got his Greek citizenship 🤔🤨
So many ignorant people with no empathy to the plight of these people. How sad is that
thankfully my parents didnt sold me to a rich couple, now i get to enjoy their poverty
You aren't so poor that you don't have access to the internet. Food for thought.
i'm not poor at all i was just joking. even my internet is good
lol :-D
Wow you are being disrespectful to the two people that gave the gift of life for you in this world. At least have gratitude that you get to enjoy life and even use internet to comment your nonsense. You are despicable. Instead of improving yours and you parent's life for good you are complaining.
@@jesusiskingofkingsz Jokes are meant to be fun and not offensive. They are two different things. Smart ass..
Please sterlize the parents who are doing this.
I agree but they aren't doing this for fun. They have no other way to sustain themselves and the f*ucked up government doesn't care about them.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This honestly breaks my heart
Yeah its not an easy thing to register. I had to cry & press pause till i stopped. Then continued watching
A year before when I was in Lefkada I saw one Greek family who had a "daughter" that looked from middle of India. WTF I thought... but now I find out where she likely came from
It could have just been a legal international adoption
@@SUNNYDAILYNEWS Gypsy is always the most likely probability in those cases. What are the odds of adopting an Indian 5000 miles away when you have plenty of these right next door...
I have lived in Greece and I meet adopted kids from al over the world including India living in Greek families.
Alot of people are going to be more comfortable with legal adoption then buying a kid under the table even though it would be easier.
I can’t imagine what’s happening to those babies. 😞 wish it was something I can do.
This is why we all need to watch Sound of
Freedom when it gets released in movie
theaters on July 4th!
Wow as a Greek myself. I am disgusted and ashamed at my people. I thought we were better than this.
When you see "Selling Babies" in the title and you already know that's Bulgaria lol
T.T I’m Bulgarian 😭🙏🏼
Or Romania
This is like The Handmaids Tale come alive!
That one girl said to "Sell her organs" I always felt it would come to this. AWFUL JUST AWFUL
What has the world come to, when children has to wear bracelets saying “NOT FOR SALE”??❌❌❌
Jesus is coming back soon 🗣
@@hbtv4842 Jesus is not real.
eyyy I love me some original ViCE content
hey id rather live in a rich house in greece with someone willing to pay for me than a poor one in bulgaria where they are willing to sell me
Because when youre a baby being sold you have a say in the matter.......what a stupid fucking comment
I doubt you are going to Greece to live in a rich house. More than likely you will be sold to sex traffickers or enslavers
Watching the pregnant girl talk about selling a baby as shes rubbing her stomach was unsettling..
I don't understand why these women are even getting pregnant ( except for the ones who are forcibly impregnated) in the first place? Kids are expensive to raise! I know, my husband and I have raised 3.
doesitlooklikeiwasleftoffbadandboujee?
OG Cookie Monster lmao
OG Cookie Monster What?
Random as fuck for this channel but LMAO
Wasn't expecting to see that here and this is why I liked it.
Come again?
No wonder Hanks relocated
So happy this is all coming to light
Because adoption at least in the States is so lengthy & expensive, people consider getting a baby this way. I thought about it.. but only from an orphanage where the children were abandoned or the parents died. I would never want someone to steal a baby for me. Never!
But to make a family wait 3, 4 years for a child is awful.
6:42, did you see that monitor? Are they running windows 95?
Of course the adoptive parents know what is going on, they knew how long it was going to take at first, and then all of a sudden they can have a child straight away if they pay more money. So of course they know what that means.
what tremendous feats human beings are capable of once they abandon dignity
Let's give it up for the preschool teacher Maria and all people alike
J & J A: What can they do to change their circumstances? How about USE birth control. I think we all need to think before bringing children into this world. I wanted children more than anything else, in my 20s I had a son born prematurely and died in my arms, this nearly killed me. It was years before I had the nerves to try again but I found myself in a very bad situation and luckily Planned Parenthood helped me with birth control, I am very thankful. I didn't want to bring a child into this world with an abusive alcoholic for a father. Unfortunately injuries I sustained led to major surgery & I never had children, but it would have been selfish to make any other decision. If you can't afford to take care of a child you shouldn't have them. And if you have children & find yourself in a bad situation Stop having kids & take care of the ones you have, ask for help if needed, put those children first. If you live in a 3rd world country don't sell your children, instead don't have them. I would support a charity that helps women, who cannot afford it, obtain the birth control of their choice. Come on big pharma, do something right for a change, let's start with the United States and then start sharing birth control with all the women of the world. "I am woman hear me Roar!"
Birth control isn't readily accessible to the poor.
If you can't find one. Make one.
No one is stopping you.
Child Exploitation will never be eliminated unless those involved are caught and the Penalty is Immediate "Executed" as a Crime Against Humanity...
#NoPity
#NoExceptions
#DeathToTraffickers
Check up on that pregnant girl and see if she kept the baby shes carrying. Seems more upset over the money to me. Smh
This is so sickening and depraved it turns my insides out. God only knows their suffering. God protect these babies.
The problem is not selling kids to rich couples. The problem is breeding in poverty.
Oleksiy if only birth control and abortion was avaliable.. the woman would be all over it
Rich couples aren't buying those nasty tsigani babies. CHOMOs and black market organ dealers are.
breeding and poverty go hand in hand. Poor people in every country have many kids.
Hahaha! Do you think the word "racist" is going to shame me into lying about the fact that "NOBODY IS BUYING THESE TSIGANI BABIES TO RAISE AS CHILDREN. Their own mothers sell them. Do you know anything about these people? And no, not all babies are beautiful. Stop lying. And why would I care what you think of White people? Awww. You think I'm White, don't you? Because you think only White people have bad things to say about other races? That's too cute! Maybe you are the "racist". Silly child.
belajadevotchka2 these babies are beautiful and you still look like shit no lips having ass, pink skin Neanderthal
The dude at 6:03 is wearing a UCLA hoodie. Lol how fitting
How have both these countries not been sanctioned by the UN? They have clear knowledge that the convention for child's rights is not being up held. There isn't anything in place to help these children. How is this happening
I have purchased 3 children over the last years, for various reasons. They work out ok for a while, but the internet really drives them away once they arrive to the USA. My next purchase will not permit unsupervised internet use. Even though you pay good money to the parents, it doesn't last and again, the loyalty falls back to the blood parents.
She said it's not about the money I want my baby back... Why did you sell it in the first place? Money... She wants it back to sell to someone that will pay.
Trey Hannah Ryte !she might sell her son she does have if they give her the right amount
The baby that is sold, shes still carrying. If she really wanted her baby, she could run with it. Give birth somewhere else and let the baby buying folks try to get their money back from the broker. Kinda risky but hey, it beats selling your kid for paint and electricity.
I was recently watching handmaiden and I was like I hope this never happens but its happening before our eyes women in venerable positions forced to do things they may not have, a country is bests is how they treat the lowest
when the police still uses CRT monitors you know you have a problem
Trafficking of a family member....are they insane?
If the women are so desperate why don't they just sell themselves. This is just disgusting.
Looks like Detroit nowadays
poor children😞
If a child is sold for it's organs, who is the doctor?
*_I love watching stuff about my own county , yo I am from Bulgaria and I can tell you this shit is real_*
5:08 hell yea we are poor as shit XD
Human trafficking should stop in general. Like if you agree.
rivera752 lol me too
Stadium Sports i disliked because this comment is fucking stupid
Whatisthisrn I guess. :(
Stadium Sports liking your stupid fucking comments doesn't solve shit
FUCK YOU AND YOUR SORRY ASS HUNT FOR LIKES
Rich people don’t go this route. Too much to lose. It’s selling a horrific lie.
The problem is a mix between poverty, lack of education and well humanity. All of this can be solved through better social policies of the country. I am Bulgarian, I am familiar with the empathy of the people and the government. A change is only possible through cooperation between those who want to help and the authorities. Most of those women, who sell their kids obviously are introduce to the world to give birth, this is the horrible truth. They are as guilty as much as the traffickers, and subsequently the government and the people whose choice is simply to stay passive. I am not in Bulgaria at the moment since my education is my priority, I will go back one day and I hope a lot young Bulgarians think the same as me, that we are the change, we are the tool for a better world in order for this stories to be left in the past and never happen again.
This comment section ROCKS!! 🙏🙌💎
These people need to quit have kids!
Then you stop having sex until you can afford a condom or kid. Woman living in a shack with no water and electricity but pregnant again- 3rd kid we know of. As a mother, you would stop creating more kids to suffer in this poverty.
im not against babies being adopted away to rich couples as long as its by choice, giving your child a better life than you can provide isnt wrong. but if its being done against their will thats fucked up
'I have five children and I am unemployed. What am I supposed to eat? Stones?'
THERE'S GYPSIES, GADGALI,POMAZI AND TURKISH NATIONALS LIVING OUTSIDE EVERY TOWN IN BULGARIA. THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE BULGARIANS .
So let me get this straight the EU has countries that are so poor children are sold yet they take in millions of other poor ppl from the middle East & give them total care?? Am I right in what I've heard? Sad situation & I feel same way about illegal immigration in America as long as we have homeless ppl & very poor ppl we should not allow in foreigners that are given benifits!!
I live in Greece and have never heard about this..
video.vice.com/gr/video/paidia-pros-pwlhsh/58503790f6c123ba331e5ec9
Bonding with your parents or loving caregiver is the most important first relationship
Can some one adopt me ? i am 29
IJ SAY OK
If your hot I'm pretty sure a rich old man will "adopt" you and lock you up in his basement.
lazy ass
You are funny
Get a dog
Do 👏 English 👏 voiceovers 👏👏👏
Your channel is played as a podcast to learn while doing other things. We can't keep reading subtitles.
This is a very important issue that is discused here. My eyes were glued to the screen. How can you claim that this is like a podcast for you? Don't you care how the people that took part in the documentary look like? How they live? Their gestures? How the streets and houses look like? There is so much more to this than just the audio story.
@@persephone060 for you maybe, but not all of us have the copious extra time to sit and watch videos all day! I want to learn about these things but I have to cram it into listening while exercising or driving, and you need good audio for that. Mind your buisness
This is sad, makes me cry,poor kids
very insightful and well filmed 👏👏
I have been wondering how to sell my child, thanks! LONG LIVE EMINEM
It is absolutely inapropriate that we don't see the women described as gypsies or roma (which they are). No actual ethnic bulgarian woman has sold a child or given it to adoption. That's something exclusively practiced by the gypsies (which are clearly visible in the video - dark skin etc.). Saying "bulgarian women" or "women from Bulgaria" creates the wrong impression of ethnic bulgarians doing this - which has never happened. Or at least there are no records of it having happened. While there are many records of roma doing it.
I am Greek and i can tell you that yes the gypsie children are sold to God knows whom. But... i have friends that traveled to Bulgaria and Roumania and legally adopted children fm orphanages so yes there are a lot of children in these two countries abonded by their mothers...
Which modern country does not have orphanages where there are children available for adoption? How is that proof that "there are a lot of children in these two countries abandoned by their mothers"? A lot compared to what and based on what evidence? As a greek person, do you have statistics which compare to statistics from other countries, so you can actually see that other countries (any other countries) have more or less children for adoption? The only reason why the greek go to these countries to adopt is because adoption is made easier there. Your country (as indicated in this video) has a bad burocratic procedure which is ineffective and people go for children elsewhere. You have to learn to look for more than just anecdotal evidence, because that is no evidence at all. It's hearsay.
The reason the burocracy is difficult here is because there are not many children for adoption. And i dont need statistics for that. As i said my friends went to both countries and informed me that the orphanages,especially in Roumania are packed with children unwanted...due to poverty ... And pls i have been to both countries They are not modern... They are very very poor countries... And for this i have proof for you. They enter illigaly to Greece ( a country with big ecomonical problems) to get away..Read your facts abt the salaries in those countries
"and I don't need statistics" - this is one of the reasons why you speak nonsense. You don't actually inform yourself but just say what you want to believe. I have been to the Balkans to Greece and to most of the EU countries. You need to inform yourself a bit. Let me give you some hard facts about economics based on debt per gdp:
Greece currently 179%
Bulgaria currently 27%
Romania currently 37,6%
Your country is poor. And your burocracy has nothing to do with how many children there are - children are not products, the complexity of adopting is not based on supply and demand. Stop speaking without thinking. Sit down and simply inform yourself. The information is available. Don't just tell me what your friends told you etc. Nonsense cannot win against facts in a debate. You are simply sitting here, trying to slander other countries and you should be ashamed of yourself. As a matter of fact, from what I have read Bulgaria is one of the countries who contributed to the financial Aid send to Greece last time. They are so poor as you say, that they have to send you money. Sure sounds logical.
You want to take this further.... Tell me why all the prostitutes in the streets here in Greece come fm either Roumania or Bulgaria or Ukraine ? that have entered illigaly by their local Mafia? and why all the men fm these countries collect fm the our garbage every night? You keep talking abt statistics and i talk abt real life... Get your "real life facts" in order I dont need to inform my self... I live in Athens i see it right in front of me... I am trying to slander other countries? I have spoken to Bulgarians The high salary is 50E monthly.... And since you are so high on statistics ck out the statistics on prostitution in these countries.. Keep living in your statistics bubble...
So where's the buy link?
its funny because Vice just reported on the update of the guy who shot up Comet Pizza, and they stressed "Pizzagate isnt real"
But why have babies in the first place?
They probaly smell
This is what extreme poverty looks like. But some things they can fix themselves like where and how they live. They are smart people the men have trades they should use it
"traffiking children from Bulgarian slums to rich Greek couples" - the children who do make it to the rich Greek couples are not complaining about being raised in wealth versus poverty. The solution to the problem: poor folks need to stop having so many babies they can't feel. Concentrate on one or two child. I mean, just because a woman is born with 2 million eggs doesn't mean she should birth 2 million kids.