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- VICE China took a deep dive into what it's like to be transgender in the Asian nation, meeting five trans men and women living across the country. They shared stories of battling depression, staring down hate, and coming to terms with their identities-a process culminating in a fight for gender equality.
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Reading the comment section and seeing its disgust with this video makes me feel like this channel is doing something right. Good on you Vice, keep up the good work.
Nicholas Skylar- Bless you heart
Amazing how humans find it so important to police the gender of others. Like the "best friend" who said dying of cancer would be preferable to a sex change. You must have a really boring life if that's what keeps you up at night.
Snails40 Um... Yes it is... Have you been living under a rock?
Go Hizle their not saying their physically the opposite sex. Their saying that their sex and their gender don’t correspond. And why do u care so much what they feel is best for them? Their humans, like u. Simple as that. Ur so focused on their outside, but try focusing on their soul instead. Their personality
Even as a biological male, I understand trans people and don't see why people hate them. These stories need to be told.
"as a" just top yourself
Zakanater 19 what ya scared of then player!? nothing? your reply sounds scared.
joshua fiddy allen how can a comment sound scared?...
BroccoliQueefed their human, just like u
Rembrandt Thanks for speaking up your support; it’s always appreciated. As a transgender man, I would say you could be an even better ally by referring to yourself as a cisgender man/male instead of biological male. Trans people are often invalidated by using biology as an excuse; instead of calling a trans woman a woman, she’s sometimes called a man because “biologically speaking they’re male”. (As a side note, this isn’t even necessarily true for trans people who’ve medically transitioned as hormones and surgery alter some of people’s biology. But the point is, biology shouldn’t matter especially considering not all trans people can physically or financially transition medically and that doesn’t make their identity any less valid.) The word ‘cisgender’ is just a better way of distinguishing the difference between people who identify with the gender they were assigned at birth (cisgender people) and who don’t (transgender people). But I don’t speak for the entire trans community so take advice you hear with a grain of salt 🙂✌️
"vice are forcing their agenda down our throats!" - someone who was not forced to consume this content, but made a conscious decision to click on this video and spend time watching it while having the choice to click out of the video at any time
Their ads pop up on my Facebook feed all the time.
Dufffaaa93 I see Victoria's Secret ads but I'm not wearing a silky pink thong right now.
That's because Facebook's targeted advertising algorithm sucks, and doesn't see that you are male.
people lack some common sense
And why do they always use that phrase, forcing down our throats?? Conservatives love talking about things being forced down their throats
I thought this video was so beautiful, all of their individual journeys and experiences are so good to hear and see. They are such individually beautiful people as well, and this video is great. Can't wait for part two.
"It's the beauty of your soul, not the charm of your looks."
Such beautiful people being interviewed. Wise beyond their years.
I know! My favorite was the boutique owner. She had such a great attitude and was a complete bad ass. I really loved this video and hope for the intolerance to many that they actually watch the video before down voting.
Yeah it seems like only nazi', white supremacists and transphobic bigots watch vice. The comments are cancer.
i was born and raised in Bangkok and grew up in Hong Kong. i have gay and ladyboy friends, they are just like normal friends they are not trying to turn me gay or fuck me in the ass also in many way they are smarter than normal sex people. i am almost 30 and i still don't have a clue why people have to discriminate them.....
Thank you for being a good friend. They need you
Thanks for being a great human being. But man I was thrown off by "Ladyboy" but whatever.
Beck HxH gud
hk is still not comfortable with the LGBT society...very sure of that
Bobby is an awesome individual she would be a great person to hang out with!She is incredibly brave and strong and could help many people in the transgender community!
Bobbie Is the female way of spelling this name. Bobby is the male way of spelling this name. just a friendly reminder. Have a good day.
What beautiful people and what an amazing documentary! Can't wait to see the rest!
edferf wrewefrv lol
"Beautiful" lol
Agree 👍
It breaks my heart knowing some people are so sad about their gender they would take their own lives. We all deserve happiness we all deserve hope
I know 😔
This comment matters :)
But, only if they believe like everyone else, right? 😑
Maybe if they accepted their gender like everybody else they would've still be alive
How r they dead????? They look very much alive 2 me lol yall r delusional smh
This was an amazing piece. I loved it! These trans men and women were all so different from each other, their stories are inspiring and fascinating
CaseyAlannaCarter they only showed you what they wanted to see.
Why all the hate omg. This is wonderful!!! Can't wait for part 2
Joey Wu maybe because some people out there physically suffering because they can't even afford DENTAL implants , while being asked to have compassion the suffering of "poor guys" who Can actually afford BOOB IMPLANTS AND SEX CHANGE SURGERY.
@@MilosObilic123 I know ur comment is old but coming from a trans person, not feeling like you "are in the right body" can be life threatening I know many other trans peoples who have tried to take their own lives over this
Got straight to the point, so those 20 minutes felt like 5. Good piece, looking forward to Part 2.
Every time I watch a documentary about people who identify as transgender, I remind myself that I am lucky to be born in a body I am happy with. I can only imagine the pain that comes along with being a person who is not satisfied with the body they have. But, then I think to myself, who am I to say what type of body someone has to have to be happy? It's very complex issue for so many people, and I am grateful to have documentaries such as these to help enlighten and educate me.
"Im finally going to be who I was meant to be" this is so beautiful
WOW they are all so brave, so inspiring and full of hope. This documentary really has touched my heart. I wish them all the best for their future.
Honestly dear people, whether you support transgenderism or not, you're not personally affected by a man dressing like a woman or talking like a woman, and vice versa. This all remains far outside of your private realms. So long as someone's behaviour does not harm you or anyone around you, why would you spend so much energy on it?
ALI MUHAMMAD Why would such harsh treatment be necessary if their behaviour doesn't harm anyone?
For example, some people choose to only dress in black. Some people speak loudly, while some speak as little as possible. How is dressing and talking like the opposite sex any more harmful than those behaviours?
Sheikh YOLO I never said anything about removing genitals, kept it intentionally mild.
Sheikh YOLO And also, you use the word "promote" a lot, but how come you find this promotion? And what do you think will happen if mental illness is indeed promoted?
Sheikh YOLO as far as I know there is no treatment, so why shame them on something that is nothing harmful? It's like blaming a disabled person that they need a wheelchair and can't use the steps, when it's not their fault and it might not be "normal", but it's not bad
我是ABC， 中国人但是在美国长大。我也是FTM，我好多年不着到哟人在中国
像我这样。 我当这是我这样， 应为我是美国长大的， 看到有人像我让的我很开兴！对不起如果我说错了话，我讲的中文不是太好：）
你的中文太好了！
我想說你太牛逼了
希望你的道路更加寬敞
What's going oOoOoOn
Lmao .. hope this isn't an angry message lol
@@conservativecatlady1594 he is a American born Chinese and he is a transgender male
Seriously don't pay attention to these comments vice. This is a beautiful story and needs to be told.
I'm ftm pre-t and fifteen, it's so hard living in Beijing. Most ppl don't know even know what being trans is and many are disrespectful towards it. I can find little support around me except for my les friend and I just wish that when I reach age 18 I will be able to find a way to transition. Or else I think I might just as well leave the country or be gone...
Dude I’m 14 and I live in Beijing too!!!
@@walterma7742 hi there
here in the US everyone knows what being transgender is and they think we're pedophiles
It is amazing the variations of life on this planet, seemingly endless possibilities and i think thats some cool stuff
dont like the content?? maybe dont watch it??
Don't like the comments?? Maybe don't read them??
See how your nonsensical logic works both ways dipfuck?
+Ian Moo
I am only subscribed because Vice used to be good before it turned into a leftist propaganda channel.
Then unsub, STFU and GTFO. You won't be missed.
@@JizzMasterTheZeroth I'm proud you can spell. Congrats
Exactly, it isn't like watching the video should have been a surprise...i mean, there is a title🙄
Really enjoyed the peak into transgender living in China. Can't wait for part 2!
Love this documentary! And I can't wait for part 2.
This was amazing
What a beautiful and inspirational story. I turn 60 years old tommorow. My transition from m to f began a couple of years ago. I begin hormones soon. Thank you so much for sharing some of your hope and love-ful, life and dreams. BLESS YOU! You are a great soul! Love, Robin
aww...wow..I wish the older female to be all the best of luck :) she has such a lovely soul
+Free_Spirit
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@@barryjwz2508female
I think everyone featured in this piece seemed like such lovely people. Sad to see all the dislikes and negative comments.
Its 2017, LGBTQ should long be accepted. I hope Bobbie's surgery goes well!
Me too, can't wait for part 2!
what the actual fuck?
that's what you think about?
Bobbie has such a beautiful outlook on life, what an inspiration!
as long as they respect me, i'll respect them. simple.
That first woman, Bobbie is really really charming , looks like her heart is in the right place.She deserves a to be happy!!!
Definitely looking forward to part 2.
Yo I'm watching this shit high and I'm mad that I can't hear it even when the volume is all the way up, it just sounds like broken words and shit. Then I realize that am actually reading the words and that there is no English in this video😂
Najir Murray hahahahaa
Such a beautiful video, thank you for reaching us out
I don't get why people are hating on this video. I thought it was great! Love you vice
I'm guessing all the dislikes are from people who were triggered by the word "trans" in the title. Too bad they don't bother watching the video and learning about a group of people who is different from them.
How beautiful they are. I admire their courage.
Jesus Christ what a nasty comment section.
just everyone who knows this isnt a real problem
It's not about whether or not you think 'it's a real problem'. Whether you think that is your opinion, and everyone is entitled to one. I however, personally do think that it is a problem and I find it horrible that ignorant people will see the title of the video and will dislike straight away. These people should not be subscribed to this channel if they're not mature enough to move on without leaving hate.
Eh, it's a Vice video in the Trump era. Kind of to be expected.
Yah Boi Yes, unfortunately true. Doesn't justify it though...
I really need to send a letter to the SPLC asking them why in the fuck they haven't classified TH-cam as a hate group yet.
I really admire Chao Xiaomi. I’m not sure why, maybe it’s because of her confidence?
This is an amazing piece, thank you.
The world is changing, people's mentalities are changing, wether people accept, understand the whole change, they must be aware that this is happening and it is coming to stay, people are scared of changes, when something they don't agree or understand, affects them in ways that they simply prefer to deny it instead of expanding their minds and evolving with it.
We can't blame anyone, people will be people, we can help by informing and being nice, kind and respectful to one another, that is a great start.
I love what Bobby said at the end about people having the great chance of experiencing two lives in one.
Bobby is such a charming person.
It doesn't matter if you can relate to these people on a intimate level. Live and let live. You would't want nobody to stop you from being you and expressing yourself the way you freely choose, so let others do the same and let go of your judgements
"Asia' most populist country"
*worlds
Don't know what to really say about what I just watched, to be honest. These are adults who clearly did not come to this conclusion about their gender identity lightly. ❤️🤗🙏🏽
Incredible documentary! Big respect
"the only thing I remember, is how I felt in those heels"
This is a pretty good documentary :3 interesting to see other trans people in other countries.
Awesome Video. Can't wait to see PT 2. 💯💙🙌🏽
Do a video on how Germany is struggling with the refugees both culturally and linguistically. Thanks
Why would they do that when we already can see what it's like in the US? Thanks
Germany is linguistically struggling with Anglo cultural imperialism, not Arabs. When you turn on the radio in Germany what do you hear? Not German, not Arabian, only English.
You forgot economically, demographically, historically & politically. Fuck it(!), throw in militarily as well. How about commercially?
Hi, German here. I was just wondering what you meant exactly, because I barely consciously notice the refugees in my city. I find that it's more the foreigners that have been in the country for a long time that have quite a strong impact.
make it a duo with sweden, same shit same problems.
This was a well done segment for sure. Was not really aware of how Trans people were being treated in modern day China. Regardless of my opinion on the matter it's a well done video and is filmed very well also.
The few transgendered people I've met in my life have struck me as very smart and kind people, and I will never have a problem with whatever smart and kind people choose to do with their lives. As long as you aren't hurting others you aren't hurting me.
Great video. I liked it. :)
It's great to hear the testimony of another transwoman closer to my own age!
Where's the part 2?
lol Imagine thinking downvoting a youtube video makes you cool lmao
No one does, wtf are you talking about?
mwhite4324 it is cool
mwhite4324 you mean it doesn't?
I never in my life -- and i've been on youtube since it's inception in 2005 -- have I ever heard of someone thinking downvoting is cool except for you, but what's even stranger is how annoyed you actually are which is obvious by your fake laughs since you needed to open with a "lol" and close with a "lmao". Thought you'd get people angry with that one?
John G.K. Cool has nothing to do with downvoting. Unless you voted against Predident Trump. Those downvoters consider themselves the coolest
Man vice has some of the worst viewership
I wonder why they keep coming for more when they already know that Vice is famous for doing these types of vids?
Purely to stroke their ego
It's because they need to vent their low self-worth. When they have an innocent group to dehumanize, it psychologically boosts their crippling self-esteem. It's common for people who are hurting to hurt others who are hurting.
I hope her surgery went well ❤️
You mean his surgery
Her surgery, yeah
Why say Asia's most populous country?
Just say the most populous country.
let ppl live...they arent hurting ppl...its not 4 u to understand
Beautiful
that shop owner is a beautiful human. No employers should ever discriminate based on gender indentity. thats horrible. come to the U.S. You will be hired and treated with respect
Oxford Dictionary: Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
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Looking forward to pt2!
I’m unsure of the motivation, but every article or interview concerning Bobbie is centered around money or how affluent Bobbie is. Any one have an opinion why this is so?
You know there are actually a few governmental supported transgenders in China. As a matter of fact one of them, Jin Xing, is a Dance artist and a host of a very popular TV show, it tells something.
I’ve always wanted to know how a trans person feels about this. I’m afraid to have a trans child because I’m afraid of the choices I’ll need to make. With a gay child, no problem. You just keep loving them. There are no choices to be made. But with a trans child, you keep loving them, that’s the easy part but you also have to make choices that will affect the rest of their life. If you don’t allow for transition soon enough, will they be miserable? If you do it too soon, will they regret it and be miserable? I’d never forgive myself if they lived to regret transitioning. I’d also never forgive myself if I made them wait and their whole childhood was filled with pain because of it.
I knew a lady who dealt with the fact of her son's sexuality in a remarkable way.She told him to become quietly effective by ignoring the hate directed at him and instead love himself .He acted as if all the hate around him didn't exist,completed his education and is doing very well in the same culture,which is still largely intolerant.We can all learn from such examples.
Vice why did you disable the comments section for the previous video about the sharp rise in acid attacks in the UK?
Looking forward to part 2
i thought gender reassignment is not permitted in china
what the actual fuck does anyone have against these people?
Beats me, literally.
Their just violent for no reason.
mad respect for the person who is gender fluid and walks around in heels and a dress. They are so confident regardless of literally everyone jeering at them like that. Gender is on a spectrum, its sad that people dont realize it.
There’s male, and there’s female. Biology doesn’t care how you feel.
they tried so hard to figure out who they really are. please be open-minded and give them respect.
unfortunately there is a strong undercurrent of misogyny from the people who have such a big issue with trans individuals
I believe that we should respect other people's thoughts and feelings, mainly because its humane to do so and because its not like they affect us in anyway, unless they are part of one's life. But y'all have to admit that mutilating or altering something on your body to make you feel good or comfortable just doesn't seem right, especially if there wasn't anything wrong with it in the first place.
Change your clothes, grow your hair, fake a voice, but dont get mad if others dont see you the way you see yourself.
Sure, but who are you to define what 'seems right' in someone else's life?
And yes, others may see you different and discriminate but the world is changing and becoming a more accepting place-others are just going to have to catch up or face the fact that others don't exist in this world to make you feel more comfortable.
If this video made you uncomfortable or even angry, that means it's working. That's how change happens.
Jr Jimnzz I'm just wondering, do you feel the same about cosmetic surgery, like nose jobs, liposuction, etc? Because they can also be considered mutilation by the definition you just shared
When talking about transgender in China, how can you not mention Jin Xing the super popular transnsgender host, who has millions of fans, I can't find any other transgender star in Western country close to her level. Vice always shape the story in a way it wanna be, the holistic truth doesn't matter.
It was so sad watching all those people laugh and stare as the woman was walking down the street. Really hope people change their mentality😔
If you don't want to lose your faith in humanity, I suggest not scrolling down any further
There a reason your channel is private, maybe because you are in fact a vice employee?
same, sadly
Consequently most of the comments have given me faith in humanity.
The same could be said for reading the comments in any video - innocuous or not. People are idiots. Why would YT comments be any different?
fuck you
Can't wait to see the next part. 😊
whoa, whats with bobbi's sister referring to her as "he/him" so predominately ??
That’s because he’s a man
live and let live !
Am I the only one that understands what they talk about?
Cue the ethereal music
Fascinating how this is still such a issue for people.
Once upon a time, Vice gave us documentaries such as Heavy Metal in Baghdad, The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia, and the Vice Guide to North Korea. What the hell happened?
They continued doing hot hitting reporting on important matters of human rights, but apparently their fanbase went to shit and is now filled with people who don't think transgender people matter.
SicSemperBriannis
You only come to vice to see war documentaries? Interesting. They can do other stuff too
They became an SJW cesspool.
bashing on china got always great view.
was watching this vid halfway through, decided to take a short break and then got shocked after seeing so many dislikes
VICE is on fire lately
be faithful to be whoever you are. time flys and don't give a shit about how other ppl think about you. ppl from "normal " are way below the vision that world is full of magic.
Whoever down voted this video got some issues
Trying to be something you're not.
I empathize with trans people being a gay person myself. The world is slowly accepting homosexuality as a slightly faster rate than trans people and seeing the hate and shame that they are still dwelling in is so hard to watch...
No the world isn't....media just makes it seem that way.
Read the comment section.
Powerful!
Seriously, those people pretend to care, but dislikes say otherwise.
Why was the acid video disables comments??
World is a beautiful place yet people are terrible , they don't realize but how much they are hurting the people around them by saying or doing hurtful things , one word can leave an enormous scars , so my beautiful people whether you are gay , straight , bi , trans or whatever don't lose hope in humanity and this world , there are people who are working hard to make this world a better place tomorrow so hold on ...... My love for you all .
Does anyone know where I'm able to further look into Bobbie? I wanna know how she's doing and how her surgery went lol
*his
2:11 where 2 cop them NB shirts