a younger brother to be looked after... right... she cared so much about him she played an important role, a huge part in messing up his and his brother's life for the next 3 decades. what a pos(sorry but it's true, she's a pos)
I just finished reading her book, she was clearly in love and beyond obsessed with Lyle, who treated her really like an assistant and basically a doormat and had absolutely not interest in her, what a pathetic woman, without any self esteem, doing this out of spite is the lowest you can get.
Her intentions were insidious from the start. She may have been in love, but that didn't stop her from making plans from the moment she approached him!
@@michelleb3698 Definitely! Norma was sneaky!!!! Meanwhile, I noticed a coincidence! If all information is correct, Norma, Rebecca and Richard Ramirez's wife were all magazine editors! I find it fascinating that these women had the same job. Ramirez was a dangerous criminal, the brothers have nothing to do with him, the only thing in common is prison, nothing more.
I think he probably did develope some form of attraction towards her, didnt he write a love song and sang it to her over the phone? i think because of the abuse from his mother (which he said was consensual.. which we know it couldn't be consensual.. and thats just how warped his mindset was) i think he probably developed an attraction to older women because of it. the way he spoke about Judalon kinda shows that too. Also her being motherly to him probably messed with his mindset too. thinking he could trust her and that she cared about him.. very sad.
He didn't write the song for her. He just sang it to her. But I agree that because of her age, he probably saw her as a trusted mother figure. Lyle's emotional world is truly damaged by his wild relationship with his mother. For all of us, relationships with our parents are catalytic and affect our relationships in our lives in general.
So you mend someone's words pretending to be friends with him or like a mentor and just spread bis words in the worst possible manner mending it in his own way Lyle said in the recording as the doctor totally is a very bad person and corrupt and he lies soooo much, lyle is also going to say some things against him by exaggeration so that the jury thinks it as convincing I hope and believe this Norma get all the karma..This case itself shows how disgusting some people/evil can be who make profit by doing bad to already abused and hurt souls
“i saw him as a younger brother” girl please 💀
I remember reading somewhere that she backstabbed him as soon as she discovered that he is in love with Anna Erikson. Younger brother huh??
Haha yeah right norma
"I saw him as a younger brother" you're his grandmother, please
I wonder why Norma thought it was appropriate to go visit her “younger brother” in jail wearing mini skirts…
She probably wanted him to lower his guard.
@@name02 yeah. that's still gross though if she actually thought of him as a younger brother. ew.
Poor Lyle 🥺🥲💔
a younger brother to be looked after... right... she cared so much about him she played an important role, a huge part in messing up his and his brother's life for the next 3 decades. what a pos(sorry but it's true, she's a pos)
Seeing and hearing her gives the impression of a very fake and calculated person..!
@@queen_ginar Exactly, you can tell a mile away what kind of person she is.
Her actions could have caused both brothers to get the death penalty!! Careless woman
Shes wretched!
I just finished reading her book, she was clearly in love and beyond obsessed with Lyle, who treated her really like an assistant and basically a doormat and had absolutely not interest in her, what a pathetic woman, without any self esteem, doing this out of spite is the lowest you can get.
She fell in love with him. When she realized she flirted with other women he did this as revenge
Her intentions were insidious from the start. She may have been in love, but that didn't stop her from making plans from the moment she approached him!
@queen_ginar what kind of plans?
@@Marketoromagnolo The book...
@@queen_ginarExactly. She seemed like a total opportunist.
@@michelleb3698 Definitely! Norma was sneaky!!!! Meanwhile, I noticed a coincidence! If all information is correct, Norma, Rebecca and Richard Ramirez's wife were all magazine editors! I find it fascinating that these women had the same job. Ramirez was a dangerous criminal, the brothers have nothing to do with him, the only thing in common is prison, nothing more.
I think he probably did develope some form of attraction towards her, didnt he write a love song and sang it to her over the phone? i think because of the abuse from his mother (which he said was consensual.. which we know it couldn't be consensual.. and thats just how warped his mindset was) i think he probably developed an attraction to older women because of it. the way he spoke about Judalon kinda shows that too. Also her being motherly to him probably messed with his mindset too. thinking he could trust her and that she cared about him.. very sad.
He didn't write the song for her. He just sang it to her. But I agree that because of her age, he probably saw her as a trusted mother figure. Lyle's emotional world is truly damaged by his wild relationship with his mother. For all of us, relationships with our parents are catalytic and affect our relationships in our lives in general.
What did he say about Judalon?
So you mend someone's words pretending to be friends with him or like a mentor and just spread bis words in the worst possible manner mending it in his own way
Lyle said in the recording as the doctor totally is a very bad person and corrupt and he lies soooo much, lyle is also going to say some things against him by exaggeration so that the jury thinks it as convincing
I hope and believe this Norma get all the karma..This case itself shows how disgusting some people/evil can be who make profit by doing bad to already abused and hurt souls
A con artist
got that right!
got that right!
Girl be so real which yourself Norma was older than Lyle's PARENTS she was a jealous old cougar that wanted a younger impressionable man
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