Had this done to me when I was working retail. Got a colleague to open another checkout while I painstakingly counted £20 worth of coppers. The two kids buying a loads of snacks thought it was hilarious for the first 30 seconds, but 20 mins in the laughter had gone and I reminded them that _I'm paid to be here._
Don't feel bad for them idiots mate they charged my parents £350 for a mistake on their end that they wouldn't feel bad they are pathetic idiots with a god complex
“Didn’t get into debt in the first place” is a statement only a person whose never been poor can make without feeling like a fucking idiot. If you’re *actually* poor you normally require a loan to pull you out of poverty. That’s how the system was designed.
Not everybody chooses to be broke. In fact I dotnt think anybody wants to be broke. Some people are broke because they were trying to pay for there family's surgery. You dont know who the fuck they are. Dont assume.
Being broke isn't something that's funny, 850 quid is the equivalent to around $1500 AUD where I live and that sort of money when you're living week by week can cripple you. The guy is a douche for doing what he's doing, Anyone with half a brain knows that you can make payment arrangements for debts if you're not in a financial position to pay it full sum so in that regards and the lack of knowledge he has with the tender laws he's a twat but being broke, that's majority of the worlds issue, the sad reality is most people live day by day or week by week.
Why do people think they’re so clever paying large fines in pennies, it’s not legal tender, and some poor secretary will be forced to sort and count it
@@brendanjennings9927 Lmao they should discontinue them then it they are that trivial in value. Kind of like how the US should stop producing pennies because they cost more per penny to produce then what a penny is worth.
In the US despite being legal tender places do not have to accept them, same way they can refuse to take a $100 even if they don't suspect it is counterfeit. It presents a risk when robbed.
It's not laughable it's a completely different thing in fact. Instantaneous transactions can be refused by any merchant, during any point of the sale. So even if it is legal tender, it can be refused. It's why shop can refuse to take £50, or can take it but not give you any change (yes, they're allowed to not give you change, if they can't change it). Whereas all legal tender has to be accepted, by law, for payment of debts. Its where the limits come in, coins stop being legal tender after hitting a bench mark of the price. So you can't pay more then 20p in 1/2ps, more than £5 in 5/10ps, more than £10 in 20/50ps. After that you can pay any amount in £1+ People who actually do this stuff are arse holes though, and need slapping
@@paulfennelly9884 I thought it helped, because after reading the comments I was going to do my research, but I don’t have to now, so I didn’t ask, but I thank him👍🏻
Wow bailiffs in the U.S. are pretty much glorified courtroom security. I couldn’t imagine a bailiff coming to take shit out of my house. You learn something new every day.
He doesn't actually have to accept it... He can tell you that you have to turn it into notes at the bank.... Same thing with shops not having to accept 1-2ps and they if they want can take card and notes only... Legal tender is legal but only if the taker is willing to take it.
The same way bailiffs can charge you for their time.. you're just as entitled to charge them.. dont take the pennies.. it's fine, but a £120 charge will be added for the inconvenience
On vacation I got a noise ordinance ticket in Ocean Isle Beach for exhaust and paid the ticket in nothing but pennies the day before we left. Lets just say they werent amused.
Probably because bailiffs are dicks, and majority are aggressive twats that threaten people. They also put huge amounts of money on top of what the original debt was
@@carlstanton2550 I get that and tbh I think majority of us would act similarly if we had to do that job. Some of those jobs a commission based and some are even 100% so its either be nice and not get paid or get the job done any how. I must say tho, I couldn't do that job
He's offering payment for a debt which is covered by the value of coins. What's the difference between a telly worth 850 and a bag of coins worth 850? Bailiffs...lol.
Either pay it properly or fight it, if fighting it doesn't work and you feel like you have been wronged do something about it because this shit won't change anything.
Also just seen about the 2003 one too. Apparently the coinage act is legit for purchasing stuff ie you cant go to currys and buy a 2 grand tv in pennies, however in theory you could in pound coins. However when it is paying off a debt, legal tender is legal tender and if you can only pay in pennies then that can be accepted. If the debt collecter refuses to accept that, thats on them. What he could do is ask them to prove their is £850 in pennies and then ask them to double and triple check making it no longer fun for them before he takes it to the bank and a machine does it for him for a final time lol
The Royal Mint states that 1p and 2p coins can legally be used to pay for any sum up to the value of 20p. Any payment made in coppers over the 20p threshold is not classed as legal tender and is technically a breach of the Coinage Act 1971.
@@artemis5265 your country is tyrannical. We knew that in the 1700s. Thats why we went away and now our country is also tyrannical. Human beings will never learn to just leave others be. They always demand money, product, or services. We are never allowed to live naturally, the way God intended
@@artemis5265 ask yourself how long it took to get to this stage first, before you start ripping into these guys, the other guys, that owe, have probably spent beyond their means, like kids in a candy store as most do from these countries, they abuse the system and then want the state, US, to pay for it all, it's fuckin bullshit!
@@Neil_Gibson it's officially licensed money by the government to be used in a transaction. No reason he should be allowed to decline it and demand a different form of legal tender
@@Neil_Gibson not "legal tender" to pay a legitimate business for their products/services, however, the debtor isn't paying the collector for their services and the collector is there to retrieve the amount owed or possessions to be sold to cover the amount owed. The collector cannot legally refuse willingly offered LEGAL TENDER to the amount that's owed in favour of a different possession that would need to be handled, evaluated and sold anyway.
I've had bailiff letters when I've been owed money so it's not always the case. HMRC owed me 6k I owed them 1.2k accountants offset it so HMRC owed 4.8k which would clear the debt I owed, kinda straight forward right? HMRC recorded it and sent 4.8k but it still passed the debt on and I got baliffs letters asking me for payment.
@@kaidiya2403Pay ya council tax then . Do you think councils empty bins, clean roads , upkeep public lands for free ? . Another cretin wanting to be hand fed and have his arse wiped by government funds for free .
@@LifesAbe-ach your dad go a bit rough on you this morning treacle? At what point in your tiny little gammon brain did you see them ask for anything? He made a simple statement you clown
U sound dumb he made that as a dumb excuse obviously this nigga knows what he is doing I bet he didn’t even save up those coins he jus went to the bank the same day n got 800+ in coins
How can you be confused? The act basically supports him saying he doesn’t have to accept. There is a limit on the amount you can buy with pennies and 2 pences, 20 pence or less.
Technically you’re wrong, if the value is over 20p and the coins your paying with are over 20p then he has to accept it, if for example he was paying in 1p coins, the bailiff can refuse to accept it
"I owe money and I don't want to pay so I'll make a hell out of it to the person who is doing their job and has nothing to do with my debt will have difficult time"
@@nyakwarObat they done it to be FUCKING DICKS, there's no hidden agenda and anyone who believes otherwise are bigger FUCKTARDS than the people in the video
@John Mitchell You know some people are like that. Not all Americans are like that, even in general. It’s a stereotype really. It’s like our politics right now, two extreme polarized parties representing us. I would say a lot of us are moderates and not polarizing in general.
If the refuse to take his money, the man has stayed in honour by paying, then as they are not accepting his money surely they discharged his debt and said debt no longer exists?
Why? It’s legal tender so if they refuse they’re then accepting agreement of non-payment. He’s actually the one playing the law to his advantage. I’d say fair enough
Actually it does because if you look on the paper notes, it states " I promise to give the bearer on demand the sum ten pound" so its basically an I owe you, were as the coins are actual money 🤷🏻♂️
@@joshsneddon3763 No, you've missed the point. The only time that the term "legal tender" is paying a debt. If you walk into a shop to purchase goods, the retailer has no obligation to sell to you. In the case shown here on film, the chap is actually paying a debt. And in this case, the law specifically how much and what constitute legal tender. The bailiff is correct to refuse.
@@Cowcow211 “copper” coins are only legal tender in a transaction up to a maximum of 20p. If a vendor is willing to take more than that, then they may do so, but they are not obliged to.
@@breakcoregirlxd You can choose to take payment in any form. You are only *compelled* to take payment in the form of legal tender. You’ve improperly inverted a syllogism: just because all legal tender must be accepted does not mean that something isn’t legal tender must not be accepted.
@a it’s a point, but they’ve avoided paying something long enough to have bailiffs turn up. Just pay your debts and smart arse videos like this don’t have to waste my time 😂🦑
Copper coins are only legal tender to a maximum value of 20p. Any 10- year old knows that. Any payment above this is only permitted if the receiving party consents. Waste of time this video. Not even remotely funny.
@@jello__0113 A shopkeeper can refuse to give ye "your item" for ANY (good) reason he/she chooses. He/she has no legal obligation to sell ANYTHING to ye. However, addressing the theme of coinage, he/she CAN REFUSE to accept 50p in 2p coins. But he CAN CHOOSE to accept 50p in 2p coins. Coins are legal tender in the UK for the following amounts:~ 1p - up to 20p. 2p - up to 20p. 5p - up to £5. 10p - up to £5. 20p - up to £10. 50p - up to £10. Larger denomination COINS can be used to buy, or pay for value of, ANY amount:~ £1 - for any amount £2 - for any amount £5 - for any amount £20 - for any amount £50 - for any amount £100 - for any amount NOTE:~ £5 coin, £20 coin, £50 coin, £100 coin, were all "special" issues, and are not in "general" circulation, but if ye happen to have one they are legal tender.
Believe it’s the coinage act that stipulates certain amounts in small coin denominations can be refused, believe it’s like £5 in coppers or above can be refused and the debt would still be outstanding.
@@wittywarlord3869 well the above act states that if copper / nickel coins can be refused in excess of £10. Nothing states that it must be taken for a debt or services.
I wouldn't exactly call it a job, that's like saying ah the rapist was only doing what's in his nature. Majority of bailiffs are scum who prey on the vulnerable because the law is on their side.
Seriously these people are fucking parasites who turn up to take the little money most people have, lowest of the low scumbags and your sticking up for him you twat.
@@liverpoololdschool Like, if you need something so bad but can't afford it, you could always nick it from a bin, I heard you scousers are great at that
The Act is just that, an Act. Why is an Act called an act? Don't Michael Cain and Will Smith Act? We have all go to realise the difference between English and Legalese. Words/Sword.
UK coinage act of 1972 limits the payment by coins 50p up to a limit of £10 20p up to £10 10p up to £5 5p up to £5 2p up to 20p 1p up to 20p I hope this helps clear up the confusion and puts a halt to these shit videos being posted.
@@BlacksmithBets debt and payment of services/goods performed are not mutually exclusive. If you owe someone money for washing your car, you are in debt to them, and they can absolutely refuse to accept payment in coins.
In England it’s NOT LEGAL where they have to accept any amount of coins where as in the USA they HAVE TO TAKE IT BY LAW!!! Do your research properly mate😉🥱
@@williamproffitt6688 have a look at the coinage act 1971 UK.. You can't pay in coin if the sum is over 20p...you can't pay here in nz with coins either
@John Mitchell OP was ascertaining he owns a string of corner shops based on his race and Assley London was just straight up racist.....surely you can see that?
The best part about this video is learning about the sad extent people will go to to try proving a point. Instead of just being an honest and decent person
On a side note we hate Americans bastardisation of our language especially the spelling alterations you try. nice one anyway. Merry Christmas my brother, I wish you all the best its not an argument with you just your big wigs. Just so you know we hate our governments and big wigs too. ;) x
Yeah he does. I ask myself so what. Its sad to see what garbage the internet produces. I nice guy, and people try to lure him out into a mistake. Sneaky times
@@derekfinn6077 apparently they have something call the coinage act of 1971 which basically makes it so that 1p and 2p coins past 20p are not considered legal tender or something
@@lightmetro7508 must be a uk law sorry I wasnt aware of that! Here in ireland if a person goes into a courts office or legal firm to make a payment with coins and they do not want to except it then it's the lose of the courts or legal firm as the person made good to make a payment!
@Thot Police very true if people can be issued any sort of currency it is then legal tender regardless! The lazy bull just didn't want to count it as to issue a receipt of payment there and then he would have to count it there and then! State bully boys anyway regardless of what anyone thinks dawning a uniform to go out and intimidate and harass people is in my opinion bullying so I've no time at all for bailiffs
British Coinage Act (1971) states that 1p and 2p coins are only legal tender up to the value of 20 pence. However, you can use more coins if the person you're paying is willing to accept them. He's not willing.
Damn, in America debts to the government can be paid in any denomination of US currency, and it has to be accepted. It's happened more than a few times, people who owe hundreds, or even thousands of dollars, brought it in pennies.
@@greenblood1211 exactly, here you can walk in with 10,000 in pennys... money is money 💰 and here in the USA, they cannot refuse, every cent is legal tender, for all debts private and non, I’m sure they would be irritated but.. they must, what this man had wasn’t even that bad, it was what? 6 mid sized bags with coin ? So what, a few hours later with a counting machine big deal, I feel like British always makes a fuss about everything, I watch bbc, shows, court proceedings, it just all feels purposefully done to screw the average man.. idk maybe that’s just me.
This is the problem with that act tho, it’s outdated and from 1971 when economy was totally different, only up to 20pence? A fucking fredo chocolate bar cost 25 pence and I only have 1ps n 2ps
I remember when I was a kid, I saved up my pocket money (maybe £5) in coins and took it to the corner shop to buy sweets. The guy behind the till just said I’m not counting that. Over 20 years later and I’ve never been back in that shop. If it’s legal tender then take it.
You know the person who has to count all that isn’t the person who gave you the ticket right?
Exactly, ruining somes day that had nothing to do with the situation is just dumb
@The Red Horseman John facts
@The Red Horseman John yeah but they have to count 850 In pennies that’s not worth the time
Don't they have machines in your country to count coins.
Being paid to count pennies all day sounds like a bit of a first world problem
Had this done to me when I was working retail. Got a colleague to open another checkout while I painstakingly counted £20 worth of coppers. The two kids buying a loads of snacks thought it was hilarious for the first 30 seconds, but 20 mins in the laughter had gone and I reminded them that _I'm paid to be here._
I'd just keep saying "Oops I've forgot where I was, I'll have to start counting again" a few times till they see sense
@@robertjebediahfreeman4177 😂😂😂😂😂
You still sound pretty annoyed you had to count coins so I would say they accomplished their mission
Actually he sounds delighted by that outcome 😂
You can refuse anything over 20p in 1p coins and 20p in 2p coins. 👍🏻 I used to get people trying it when I ran a shop.
Here for the 1971 Coinage Act. 👍🏻
What does it mean? Does he have to take it or does he have to refuse it?
@@fuckngreat8955 It means he can refuse it.
@@Paul_Lucas aah, i see.
Thanks for telling me
Can he refuse stamps?
@@T0mat0S0up Yes, stamps aren’t legal tender - that’s a big urban myth!
Even if the coinage act did not exist these lads are still bell ends. Delighted
Not a bigger bellend than you
@@h_survivalist3876 they are on so many levels...
@Adam Malec a bellend is sort of the equivalent of an asshole here in the uk.
weekiely 123 more like ‘dickhead’
@@weekiely1233 its the tip of a penis so you’re pretty much calling them a dickhead.
In the US, if they refuse legal tender for payment than the debt is nullified and you owe no money.
But coins become none legal tender at a set amount.
Poor blokes juts doing his job and you're trying to humiliate him. Worst thing is you have the money and could have paid him properly
Fuck bailiffs on about poor bloke😂
Their job to collet money. Thats money.
Don't feel bad for them idiots mate they charged my parents £350 for a mistake on their end that they wouldn't feel bad they are pathetic idiots with a god complex
@Mark Saunders look up coinage act 1971
@Mark Saunders The muddah had 5 bags of 1p coins? What are you on about?
If this broke guy didn't get into debt in the first place he wouldn't have to ask his little sisters to bail him out with their piggybanks
shhh! we're owning the man here! this isn't the time for logic and reason! 😆
“Didn’t get into debt in the first place” is a statement only a person whose never been poor can make without feeling like a fucking idiot. If you’re *actually* poor you normally require a loan to pull you out of poverty. That’s how the system was designed.
Not everybody chooses to be broke. In fact I dotnt think anybody wants to be broke. Some people are broke because they were trying to pay for there family's surgery. You dont know who the fuck they are. Dont assume.
Being broke isn't something that's funny, 850 quid is the equivalent to around $1500 AUD where I live and that sort of money when you're living week by week can cripple you. The guy is a douche for doing what he's doing, Anyone with half a brain knows that you can make payment arrangements for debts if you're not in a financial position to pay it full sum so in that regards and the lack of knowledge he has with the tender laws he's a twat but being broke, that's majority of the worlds issue, the sad reality is most people live day by day or week by week.
@@jodinha4225 Did you look at the badge on his car? If he was ActUAlLy PoOr he wouldnt be driving a shiny merc
The uploaded is so confident, funny thing is he's wrong lol.
Why do people think they’re so clever paying large fines in pennies, it’s not legal tender, and some poor secretary will be forced to sort and count it
We have counting machine’s these days
Coins are not legal tender? It is the only fucking legal tender!!!!!
@@MrWiesel79 1 and 2ps do not have to be accepted for purchases over 20 pence
@@brendanjennings9927 oh, yeah, ok, these not, you're right. Sorry, giving in.
@@brendanjennings9927 Lmao they should discontinue them then it they are that trivial in value. Kind of like how the US should stop producing pennies because they cost more per penny to produce then what a penny is worth.
If they refusing they cancelling.
In the US despite being legal tender places do not have to accept them, same way they can refuse to take a $100 even if they don't suspect it is counterfeit. It presents a risk when robbed.
Had bell ends try do that when I worked at McDonald's in 2003. They were so confident that we had to accept it it was laughable.
It's not laughable it's a completely different thing in fact.
Instantaneous transactions can be refused by any merchant, during any point of the sale. So even if it is legal tender, it can be refused.
It's why shop can refuse to take £50, or can take it but not give you any change (yes, they're allowed to not give you change, if they can't change it).
Whereas all legal tender has to be accepted, by law, for payment of debts. Its where the limits come in, coins stop being legal tender after hitting a bench mark of the price.
So you can't pay more then 20p in 1/2ps, more than £5 in 5/10ps, more than £10 in 20/50ps. After that you can pay any amount in £1+
People who actually do this stuff are arse holes though, and need slapping
@@666m111 no one really asked for that
@@paulfennelly9884 I thought it helped, because after reading the comments I was going to do my research, but I don’t have to now, so I didn’t ask, but I thank him👍🏻
@@sosaflex that's true what a kind heart he is. Definitely a man who helps out in his community
In Canada it's literally illegal to pay with coins when the amount is bigger
You know that the person going to count all this is not the person who did something bad and deserved a ticket... right ?
Wow bailiffs in the U.S. are pretty much glorified courtroom security. I couldn’t imagine a bailiff coming to take shit out of my house.
You learn something new every day.
He's not accepting payment.....
Then he has to leave no?
No. If he has his warrant he doesn't need to leave. The Coinage Act also makes it non legal tender past 20p in coppers so it's not an attempt to pay.
I would have made him count it out in front of me and then said sorry can't accept it in change.
Why would you do that the less time he has to spend with this Idiot the better. Don't indulge the fool.
@@thetruthk5138
Think he ment that the guy filming was gonna count it
@@infamousfrovi2068 I knew exactly what you meant he is just a oxygen thief and the less time anyone has to spend with people like this the better
Are we even sure there even is 85,000 pennies in the bags.
Balifs wouldn't even accept my plasma TV. He insisted on taking my car.
What a pointless effort. Don’t get the fine in the first place.
Not even legal tender. Its less than a quid that can be paid in pennies.
He doesn't actually have to accept it... He can tell you that you have to turn it into notes at the bank....
Same thing with shops not having to accept 1-2ps and they if they want can take card and notes only... Legal tender is legal but only if the taker is willing to take it.
That is a special kind of stupid and you can't fix stupid but a 2×4 will make a dent in it.
Why let yourself be in a position to owe £850? Be smart, live within a budget and save money with the excess = no stress and extra holidays
Your whole family must be street coin collectors to have that much coins. Just go to shop and shop and change to dollar notes.
I'd take the pennies in payment for the story alone. Well played.
The same way bailiffs can charge you for their time.. you're just as entitled to charge them.. dont take the pennies.. it's fine, but a £120 charge will be added for the inconvenience
What a pain in the ass. Yea its value but who the hell wants to bother? Why would you do that?
I borrow money from friends and family right!!
And how would you feel if you turned up for your loan and it was £850 in coins.
Their just doing their job that's quite petty tbh
On vacation I got a noise ordinance ticket in Ocean Isle Beach for exhaust and paid the ticket in nothing but pennies the day before we left. Lets just say they werent amused.
I dont understand why the guy is being difficult and trying to pay in pennies. U wouldn't take it either
Probably because bailiffs are dicks, and majority are aggressive twats that threaten people. They also put huge amounts of money on top of what the original debt was
Legal tender.
@@carlstanton2550 I get that and tbh I think majority of us would act similarly if we had to do that job. Some of those jobs a commission based and some are even 100% so its either be nice and not get paid or get the job done any how. I must say tho, I couldn't do that job
Look at the car it’s sitting in lol just give the cash an put then change in ur bank
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 apparently the coinage act says it isn't legal tender
You can hear from the accent he’s not even English
Besides the law he could also say he's not going to stop his job from being done from counting pennies which will take a while.
😂😂😂😂😂
He's offering payment for a debt which is covered by the value of coins. What's the difference between a telly worth 850 and a bag of coins worth 850? Bailiffs...lol.
Yes you do have to accept that amount of currency it's the law Britt
It's now gonna cost you more for another visit. Well played Einstein...
What an utter fool. Pay your debts!
Either pay it properly or fight it, if fighting it doesn't work and you feel like you have been wronged do something about it because this shit won't change anything.
When you fail so large in life you try to pay in change.
I mean technically the bailiff cant argue
Legend mate well done. Baillifs are heartless.
And the person with 85000 pennies is a twatt
It's legal tender mate take the bags of change
i just searched the comments to see if he needs to accept the money 😅
Legend, if he dont accept payment not ur fault 😂
The title of the video should be “guys who think they’re clever but are just twats”.
Which is mean this is value. 🤣
Trying to clown the guy for not taking coins when they're the ones with bailiffs at the door 🤦♀️😂
TRUE
But he's the clown for not taking it 🤣🤣🤣
@@hamzakarim5731 Nah man
@@offswitchtv109 yea dude
@@hamzakarim5731 read through the comments mercades man. Coinage act. The clown here is the guy who uploaded the video.
The best part about this video is learning about the 1971 Coinage Act from the comments.
I agree, I never knew that before. Good stuff people 👍
Expect £1-£2 are not included in the act
I agree I feel we should sometime learn new every day an I agree have nice Day wonderful
@@peterjohnson450 cos you can use them for up to anything
Also just seen about the 2003 one too. Apparently the coinage act is legit for purchasing stuff ie you cant go to currys and buy a 2 grand tv in pennies, however in theory you could in pound coins.
However when it is paying off a debt, legal tender is legal tender and if you can only pay in pennies then that can be accepted. If the debt collecter refuses to accept that, thats on them. What he could do is ask them to prove their is £850 in pennies and then ask them to double and triple check making it no longer fun for them before he takes it to the bank and a machine does it for him for a final time lol
The Royal Mint states that 1p and 2p coins can legally be used to pay for any sum up to the value of 20p. Any payment made in coppers over the 20p threshold is not classed as legal tender and is technically a breach of the Coinage Act 1971.
Correct same goes with 10p,20p and 50 pences they are legal tender up to £10.
Well done mate. Your aware and did your research 👍🏾👍🏾
I’ve just learnt something thanks for that 🤔
Real question is.. is it fair? Money is money regardless.
@@unknowncrypto596 Amen to that. Not to mention the fact would banks turn it away ? Absolutely not because it’s money.
Why do you drive a Mercedes if you have to argue with a bailiff over pennies? Get your priorities straight
@Jake Kirk ?? You still have a deposit to pay and then monthly instalments, just because a car is on finance doesn’t mean it’s cheap.
Bet that's from wish, 50£ max
Because it’s funny
I guess coins are harder to track
@@stiannobelisto573 no we don't want to buy your coins, I don't care if it's the next bitcoin or whatever man
The guys in this video paying with coins are absolute bellends
Unoriginal ones at that, they likely saw a post on social media of other people paying fines with coins and thought, “Me too!”
Bailiffs are bellends too lol like seriously who enjoys a job were you threaten people that if u don't pay they'll take ur stuff away
@@artemis5265 your country is tyrannical. We knew that in the 1700s. Thats why we went away and now our country is also tyrannical. Human beings will never learn to just leave others be. They always demand money, product, or services. We are never allowed to live naturally, the way God intended
@@artemis5265 ask yourself how long it took to get to this stage first, before you start ripping into these guys, the other guys, that owe, have probably spent beyond their means, like kids in a candy store as most do from these countries, they abuse the system and then want the state, US, to pay for it all, it's fuckin bullshit!
Your absolutely right think there so clever get there shit phone out and record the poor man just doing his job
This guy doesn’t know anything about the law, legally the bailiff can not accept the payment if he doesn’t want to due to the coinage act 1971
Yeah think bout that though you may be right but it tell you something bout the system we live in doesn't it
Doubt the courts would look at it too well if they try to decline actual tender being offered and instead try to take possessions...think about it
@@smith549371 it’s not tender when the value of 1p coins surpasses 20p. So he’s not offering valid tender.
@@Neil_Gibson it's officially licensed money by the government to be used in a transaction. No reason he should be allowed to decline it and demand a different form of legal tender
@@Neil_Gibson not "legal tender" to pay a legitimate business for their products/services, however, the debtor isn't paying the collector for their services and the collector is there to retrieve the amount owed or possessions to be sold to cover the amount owed. The collector cannot legally refuse willingly offered LEGAL TENDER to the amount that's owed in favour of a different possession that would need to be handled, evaluated and sold anyway.
Moral of the story, don’t borrow money you can’t afford to pay back.
@@user-tr9dx6xy8g 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've had bailiff letters when I've been owed money so it's not always the case. HMRC owed me 6k I owed them 1.2k accountants offset it so HMRC owed 4.8k which would clear the debt I owed, kinda straight forward right? HMRC recorded it and sent 4.8k but it still passed the debt on and I got baliffs letters asking me for payment.
Could be for council tax, they send these cunts for that as well
@@kaidiya2403Pay ya council tax then . Do you think councils empty bins, clean roads , upkeep public lands for free ? . Another cretin wanting to be hand fed and have his arse wiped by government funds for free .
@@LifesAbe-ach your dad go a bit rough on you this morning treacle? At what point in your tiny little gammon brain did you see them ask for anything?
He made a simple statement you clown
Pay your bills. Don’t borrow. Don’t drive flash Mercs you can’t afford.
U sound dumb he made that as a dumb excuse obviously this nigga knows what he is doing I bet he didn’t even save up those coins he jus went to the bank the same day n got 800+ in coins
@1986tredie I wasn’t criticizing his writing but his thinking, n yes academically I’m the dumbest in the comments I’m not even mad u said that 😭
@@Problematicars of course he didn’t save them up wtf 😂
Only looks like a c class, one of the cheapest mercedes you can buy
@@getstrongby4038 its an e class secondly its 30 grand
This dude has probably been collecting pennies his whole life just waiting for a moment like this
I understand you are a child. But you do know you can go to a bank and take out pennies right?
@@TheClickClick its not legal to have pennies..?😂 im confused
@@jeff-gl1yx If you lack the intellectual capacity to comprehend a joke then I recommend you find a responsible adult to explain it to you...
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Learning about the 1971 coinage act...the only thing 2020 gave me.
You not going to enlighten us?
I googled it and i still am lost
How can you be confused? The act basically supports him saying he doesn’t have to accept. There is a limit on the amount you can buy with pennies and 2 pences, 20 pence or less.
@@colossalbigfoot256 im just wondering why im watching this i guess. I don't see the point in posting it
@@Michael-ru3su me either but hey the internet is the most useless tool we have now
If this guy is employed than his boss should start paying him in coin.
Trueeeeeee
And as said he has no right to refuse
If he does his boss doesn't pay him for whatever he did🤷🏼♂️
Course he is employed, and dodging taxes.. what dya think that £850 is for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s probably on the dole or state benefits 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
U mean his dad will be paying him to work in 1 of his corner shops and he will be doing drug deals on the side to top up his earnings 👎
Technically the bailiff, it’s not wrong he doesn’t have to accept that amount of cash
Technically you’re wrong, if the value is over 20p and the coins your paying with are over 20p then he has to accept it, if for example he was paying in 1p coins, the bailiff can refuse to accept it
@@alnaddingames272 considering the video says paying with pennies, that would be 1p coins.
It’s legal tender. Doesn’t matter whatsoever in what denominations
@@PAPERBOYS-ek6ke Actually tho it does matter, just because it’s real still does not mean he needs to accept it in that form
Money is money
"I owe money and I don't want to pay so I'll make a hell out of it to the person who is doing their job and has nothing to do with my debt will have difficult time"
Bailiff are the scum of the earth.
They don't HAVE to do that shitty job you know. They chose it, now deal with crappy situations that are part of the job.
@@deyh5664 exactly
That stuffs also in sealed bags so he went to a bank or something and requested it in coins, what a waste of air.
No it was probably from his corner shop 🤣
People who borrow money and dont pay back the amount or in the agreed time arn't the victims of balifs they are the cause.
People who judge other people's situation that they don't understand what made it happen are self righteous self appointed pricks
@@nyakwarObat wtf are you on about snowflake?
@@nyakwarObat they done it to be FUCKING DICKS, there's no hidden agenda and anyone who believes otherwise are bigger FUCKTARDS than the people in the video
@@nyakwarObat the bootlickers are out in force today
They still payed back the money
Bailiff really should have made them count it out for him.
Absolutely. And then said he wasn't accepting it...
Come on, he' a baliff, no way he's coming up with anything as smart or subtle as that 🤣
Dude pulled up in an S class he has cash he's just a major troll 😂😂
E class*
Anything just to be difficult and have a nonsense debate about.
E class
@Heisenberg don't get yourself into debt then the bailiff won't need to come! Just your bills simply
@Heisenberg they are doing there job! Of people payed there bills then they wouldn't have a job!!
Come on man.... he's just doing his job
So were the nazi's
@p 123 Chip on your shoulder.. much?? One man's action to another is an entire country vs a country? You like six years old?
@p 123 Just as I thought.. six years old..
@@Dogonatree Embarrassing comment
@@Dogonatree I love how u said this and everyone is getting mad at each other and I’m just laughing thanks
This was the nicest argument in history lmao
well the old man isn't dumb and acts like an adult, truely a rare sight in humans
wdym in england or canada this argument would be thought of as nothing short of complete eviceration
@John Mitchell You know some people are like that. Not all Americans are like that, even in general. It’s a stereotype really. It’s like our politics right now, two extreme polarized parties representing us. I would say a lot of us are moderates and not polarizing in general.
@@davidmumbower3831 nah bro just let him be. hes like a racist except he basis his hate on nationality instead of color
If the refuse to take his money, the man has stayed in honour by paying, then as they are not accepting his money surely they discharged his debt and said debt no longer exists?
Or something else you could do.... Pay your bills before bailiffs have to come at your door.
Just pay whatever fine this is like a normal person. Stop making other people's lives harder just caused you're pissed off.
Fucking guy hearted the comment.
Why? It’s legal tender so if they refuse they’re then accepting agreement of non-payment. He’s actually the one playing the law to his advantage. I’d say fair enough
@@owenstaples1228 He doesn't have to accept it.
@@owenstaples1228 you need to educate yourself mate. You are wrong
@@gra-emed3617 am not though. Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of legal tender
This is one of the very few cases where the term "Legal tender" actually applies. That is not legal tender.
...go on
Actually it does because if you look on the paper notes, it states " I promise to give the bearer on demand the sum ten pound" so its basically an I owe you, were as the coins are actual money 🤷🏻♂️
@@joshsneddon3763
No, you've missed the point. The only time that the term "legal tender" is paying a debt. If you walk into a shop to purchase goods, the retailer has no obligation to sell to you.
In the case shown here on film, the chap is actually paying a debt. And in this case, the law specifically how much and what constitute legal tender. The bailiff is correct to refuse.
@@joshsneddon3763
And this guy is not paying his debt in the form of paper notes. He is attempting to pay coinage.
@@glennharrison7036 if I'm honest, I'm not sure how it all works ha, I just assumed it counted towards all payments, my bad
That's honestly just kinda scum
You do realise the person counting the money is not the person who gave you the ticket
You're wasting people's time.
Thank you
You know they have coin counting machines. Lmao it takes like 2 minutes
Money is money have to take it no matter what
Guessing it’s an employees wages you never paid ..
Actually the law states there’s a limit to pennies you can use to pay of debt look it up
You mean the Coinage Act 1971 that says the opposite?
@@Cowcow211 coinage act says that coins cant be used to pay large sums of money hth
@@Cowcow211 “copper” coins are only legal tender in a transaction up to a maximum of 20p. If a vendor is willing to take more than that, then they may do so, but they are not obliged to.
Someone trying to do something they saw on the Internet without doing their research.
baliffs take cars and cars aren't legal tender
@@breakcoregirlxd they sell them for legal tender.
@@CampVictoria yes they did, didn't they...
@@CampVictoria you didn't look at any precedent where people have been ordered to pay in other means by courts. So you missed something.
@@breakcoregirlxd You can choose to take payment in any form. You are only *compelled* to take payment in the form of legal tender.
You’ve improperly inverted a syllogism: just because all legal tender must be accepted does not mean that something isn’t legal tender must not be accepted.
Wait, how are you pranking the bailiff, if you already sat there counting the 850£ in pennies??😂🤦♂️
Wonder what the comments would be like if he was a young Essex lad born and bred, paying in coins
Lmao stfu, it’s got nothing to do with race and everything to do with being a idiot
Is law to provide identification to the enforcement,that's how they issue the fine. Was same for me and fined £150. The debt was paid
Just trying to do his job and these muppets think they’re funny, it’s not his fault you can’t pay your debts, absolute waste of air you two
Haha when he says he got lend of money from family and friends, the coins in a new type Mercedes-Benz 😅😅😅
@a it’s a point, but they’ve avoided paying something long enough to have bailiffs turn up. Just pay your debts and smart arse videos like this don’t have to waste my time 😂🦑
@a apparently to the lawmen in the comment sections it's apparently not legal idk
Can't believe people are actually defending bailiffs
Jesus it wasn’t a racially motivated comment, but still a pair of fucking walnuts.
Copper coins are only legal tender to a maximum value of 20p. Any 10- year old knows that. Any payment above this is only permitted if the receiving party consents.
Waste of time this video. Not even remotely funny.
So a shop owner can refuse to give me my item if I try to pay 50p in 2ps?
@@jello__0113 A shopkeeper can refuse to give ye "your item" for ANY (good) reason he/she chooses. He/she has no legal obligation to sell ANYTHING to ye.
However, addressing the theme of coinage, he/she CAN REFUSE to accept 50p in 2p coins.
But he CAN CHOOSE to accept 50p in 2p coins.
Coins are legal tender in the UK for the following amounts:~
1p - up to 20p.
2p - up to 20p.
5p - up to £5.
10p - up to £5.
20p - up to £10.
50p - up to £10.
Larger denomination COINS can be used to buy, or pay for value of, ANY amount:~
£1 - for any amount
£2 - for any amount
£5 - for any amount
£20 - for any amount
£50 - for any amount
£100 - for any amount
NOTE:~ £5 coin, £20 coin, £50 coin, £100 coin, were all "special" issues, and are not in "general" circulation, but if ye happen to have one they are legal tender.
They want them rolled
@deltech you have probably waited you’re entire life to spill you’re guts on how much you think ye know about coins 😂 ye complete savage
@@jdmbandits9406 It doesn't really change the fact that he is right.
Believe it’s the coinage act that stipulates certain amounts in small coin denominations can be refused, believe it’s like £5 in coppers or above can be refused and the debt would still be outstanding.
Can only be refused for payment of services. Can't be refused as a payment of debt.
@@wittywarlord3869 well the above act states that if copper / nickel coins can be refused in excess of £10. Nothing states that it must be taken for a debt or services.
Limits only apply to coinage less than £1 (not including)
@@wittywarlord3869 wrong
You can be refused payment in copper coins for anything over 20p 1971 coinage act
C'mon. The man was just doing his job, and you just made his day a whole lot worse
@Lynchology101 did your family run themselves into debt as a child?
I wouldn't exactly call it a job, that's like saying ah the rapist was only doing what's in his nature. Majority of bailiffs are scum who prey on the vulnerable because the law is on their side.
Seriously these people are fucking parasites who turn up to take the little money most people have, lowest of the low scumbags and your sticking up for him you twat.
@@liverpoololdschool Don't buy things you can't afford or get fines etc you can't pay and they won't have to show up in the 1st place.
@@liverpoololdschool Like, if you need something so bad but can't afford it, you could always nick it from a bin, I heard you scousers are great at that
You dhouldve researched the coinage act first. Failed
The Act is just that, an Act. Why is an Act called an act? Don't Michael Cain and Will Smith Act? We have all go to realise the difference between English and Legalese. Words/Sword.
@@jfilm7466 shit up ya fool acts are laws so go and take ya freeman on the land bullshit back to that side of TH-cam.
@@jfilm7466 what are you going on about ?
@@jfilm7466 Don't pass it this way
@@jfilm7466 Act,legislation. A statue or *law* made by a legislative body
You're an idiot an act creates a law
Just pay ur fine lmao so much effort doing this, he doesn’t have to take that
Ummm isn’t that what his doing? Paying his fine
@@musicvideos2695 The thing is, they wont except the money in those pennies.
@@anon_rah01 well then they have to trash the ticket if the won’t accept legal tender as payment
@@musicvideos2695 Copper pennies are only legally tender up to 20p worth, thereafter coins such as 10p, 20p & 50p are only legally tender up to £20
@@anon_rah01 is that the law in the UK or your opinion?
UK coinage act of 1972 limits the payment by coins
50p up to a limit of £10
20p up to £10
10p up to £5
5p up to £5
2p up to 20p
1p up to 20p
I hope this helps clear up the confusion and puts a halt to these shit videos being posted.
This is correct if you are purchasing something. When clearing debts they have to accept it, they just don't like to.
That's for goods or services, not debts
@@BlacksmithBets debt and payment of services/goods performed are not mutually exclusive. If you owe someone money for washing your car, you are in debt to them, and they can absolutely refuse to accept payment in coins.
It’s for payment so it includes debt. As you make a payment to clear a debt. Bank of England website is very clear on that in its coinage act.
He doesn’t need to accept coins, we’re not in America... might wants to read into it before you did this 😕
Canada has a limit on how much you can pay in coins, and I'm fairly certain the USA does also.
We do not have a limit ,but they can refuse if the coins are not in bank rolls already depending on company policy
Even in America there is no legal requirement to accept payment in an impractical form.
@@johnanderson6566company policy is not the law when are people gonna learn this
@@oldvlognewtricksyou’re wrong ☹️can’t believe people like the 2 above me get to vote
I wonder how the guys on "can't pay we'll take it away" would handle this 🤔
Stu McCracken would be too busy mentioning how they must be doing well if they have more than one tv in the house
@@callumwatkins6355 and liquidating everything from cars to toasters
@@callumwatkins6355 haha
Steve Pinner & the old guy are the best. That stu is an absoloute bellend
Drive off in the car with the pennies on the curb 😂
In England it’s NOT LEGAL where they have to accept any amount of coins where as in the USA they HAVE TO TAKE IT BY LAW!!!
Do your research properly mate😉🥱
In the U.S if it’s over a certain amount it must be rolled.
You mean it's ILLEGAL.
Do your research properly mate 😉🥱 (also can I see your toes BEEMP BEEMP BEEMP)
Aha I was thinking same thing
UK states this is illegal^^ with penny’s the max payment you can make is like 10p
Hey moron, also the items that the ballifs would take out of the house can't be accepted as legal tender therefore they better accept the coins
This guy seems extremely nice ... why would you do that to him 😂😂
If you take those coins to a bank they charge extra to count and process, the bailiffs correct not to accept those coins
Nah hes just lazy..who ever he owes this money to wouldnt be happy with that balif
@@williamproffitt6688 lol.. Your wrong young fella.. He owes the courts.. You'll figure it out when you get older
@@jamescook4140 nah mate, they will accept that . The balif is lazy. The courts will even take a reduced sum.
In the Netherlands you can do that for free. We have a free Coin counter at the bank. All automatically
@@williamproffitt6688 have a look at the coinage act 1971 UK.. You can't pay in coin if the sum is over 20p...you can't pay here in nz with coins either
He emptied all the cash registers in his string of corner shops to get that money.
Racism is the thought process of the modern day moron.
@John Mitchell OP was ascertaining he owns a string of corner shops based on his race and Assley London was just straight up racist.....surely you can see that?
None of which will have had any tax paid on it, while his wife has no doubt knocked out five kids on the NHS.
@@Martin-88 meanwhile your whole family is probably unemployed. Because you spend all your time on the internet complaining about foreigners
@@videowatchr5565 I work full time and my parents are retired, but thanks for your concern.
I don’t understand how you’ve probably saw dozens of people do this online and went: “oh that’s a solid and original idea”
The best part about this video is learning about the sad extent people will go to to try proving a point. Instead of just being an honest and decent person
I’m from America and I love y’all’s lingo And slang.
Cheers lad
On a side note we hate Americans bastardisation of our language especially the spelling alterations you try. nice one anyway. Merry Christmas my brother, I wish you all the best its not an argument with you just your big wigs. Just so you know we hate our governments and big wigs too. ;) x
@@christaylor9674 wtf you are a dick head if you actually support that way of thinking
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Seems kinda petty going out your way to pay in coins, no offence but you’re in the wrong
Don’t say no offence, these guys are twats
“Hey look at me I am an asshole because someone caught me doing something wrong”
Doesn’t he say clear enough that he won’t accept coins like Jesus
Yeah he does. I ask myself so what.
Its sad to see what garbage the internet produces. I nice guy, and people try to lure him out into a mistake. Sneaky times
His lose then he was offer legal tender to pay a bill and he refused it tough luck so!
@@derekfinn6077 apparently they have something call the coinage act of 1971 which basically makes it so that 1p and 2p coins past 20p are not considered legal tender or something
@@lightmetro7508 must be a uk law sorry I wasnt aware of that! Here in ireland if a person goes into a courts office or legal firm to make a payment with coins and they do not want to except it then it's the lose of the courts or legal firm as the person made good to make a payment!
@Thot Police very true if people can be issued any sort of currency it is then legal tender regardless! The lazy bull just didn't want to count it as to issue a receipt of payment there and then he would have to count it there and then! State bully boys anyway regardless of what anyone thinks dawning a uniform to go out and intimidate and harass people is in my opinion bullying so I've no time at all for bailiffs
British Coinage Act (1971) states that 1p and 2p coins are only legal tender up to the value of 20 pence. However, you can use more coins if the person you're paying is willing to accept them. He's not willing.
Damn, in America debts to the government can be paid in any denomination of US currency, and it has to be accepted. It's happened more than a few times, people who owe hundreds, or even thousands of dollars, brought it in pennies.
@@greenblood1211 exactly, here you can walk in with 10,000 in pennys... money is money 💰 and here in the USA, they cannot refuse, every cent is legal tender, for all debts private and non, I’m sure they would be irritated but.. they must, what this man had wasn’t even that bad, it was what? 6 mid sized bags with coin ? So what, a few hours later with a counting machine big deal, I feel like British always makes a fuss about everything, I watch bbc, shows, court proceedings, it just all feels purposefully done to screw the average man.. idk maybe that’s just me.
@@Lilith218 😂😂😂😂
@@Lilith218 I don't like how you say that haha
This is the problem with that act tho, it’s outdated and from 1971 when economy was totally different, only up to 20pence? A fucking fredo chocolate bar cost 25 pence and I only have 1ps n 2ps
And i thought "Covid" caused the coin shortage.
In America yea, this isnt America tho
I don't by it lol I think it is because of "covid"
They don't have to take small change unfortunately.
We all know that softarse the point was to piss the bayleaf off or couldn't you see that
no small change. no pay
The guy is just doing his job man why u gotta be like this.
What is he doing? He’s offering to pay his fine with legal money... he isn’t doing anything wrong... coins still have fucking value
@Cliff Butler no it's not. 1971 coinage act.
@@goofy7591 wrong sadly
@Cliff Butler its more of a moral question than a legal one for me
@Cliff Butler you have to pay with legal tender. Only counts as legal tender up to 20 pence in pennies. So no, he's not offered an acceptable payment.
I remember when I was a kid, I saved up my pocket money (maybe £5) in coins and took it to the corner shop to buy sweets. The guy behind the till just said I’m not counting that. Over 20 years later and I’ve never been back in that shop. If it’s legal tender then take it.
Businesses have the legal right to refuse payment tho lol
HahahHaha
@@blakesking6615 bit shitty to do it to a kid tryna buy sweets tho
@@blakesking6615cause they can’t count? Got it. Fucking dumbass
He went out of his was for get pennies to make this video what a sad individual