Just bought this for my 3rd bike, so well balanced and very well sorted. The fueling is so smooth and mid range torque increase is very noticable compare to the previous gen. Does everything as you expected, so underrated, such a pity Suzuki didn't put the tft and cruise control, otherwise it'd be phenomenal, but the price tag will be different as well. Great bike overall, one of my best purchase across all 10 bikes I've had.
@@QuickRipzz I had several small bikes like Grom, Ninja 300, RC390 and MT03. Several middle weights like zx-6r, gsx-r750, rs660 and tuono 660, a few litre bikes like gsx-r1000, s1000rr, katana and GSX-S1000. S1000rr and gsx-s1000 would be my best buys
I'm just getting into my own, I've only had it for two days, but I bought it after a day of test riding the demo. It's a killer bike in every way! Although it wasn't that important to me, it's really good looking and to appreciate it, you have to see the bike live, photos don't do it justice. I personally found the matte grey color to be the most attractive, but of course, that's a matter of taste. I was convinced to order it because of its lightness (in feeling, because objectively it's not the lightest in its class), the engine, which, in addition to its beautiful history, is still unmatched by the competition in terms of performance, power delivery, reliability, predictability, and sound. Such engines will no longer be produced. Amazing power, eagerness to ride, straight, in turns, whatever the rider imagines, it will happen! The riding position is a successful compromise, providing enjoyment and technical capabilities for those who want to ride dynamically and those who want to comfortably explore nearby towns (although there is no exaggeration with tourism either, due to the lack of a windshield and the high, retracted legs). For me, another huge plus is that the bike doesn't heat up the handlebars, which is a problem on many motorcycles. I, for example, considered buying a Ducati Street V2 and the way they gave off heat to the rider was unacceptable. The suspension in the factory setting is rather for dynamic/sport riding (not hardcore), but if it's not your thing - you have plenty of adjustment options to find your own setting. The brakes, in addition to being very efficient, are also very controllable - full control in any conditions. I don't expect anything more. The gem in the standard equipment setup is the top-notch quickshifter, which works phenomenally in practically every rpm range, of course, up and down, and we get it without any extra charge. The cherry on top is the exhaust - it sounds and looks fantastic, it can make pleasant pops, sound bassy, and it doesn't tire you out, despite the ridiculous EURO(5) regulations. And it looks good! It doesn't require replacement at all. As for the downsides - the display is not very clear, but it helps a little to increase the brightness settings to max, the standard setting is low. I would also pay more attention to the rather hard seat in the long run - consider something accessory. I also don't like the "short" clutch, especially in the new one, in the demo with a mileage of about 5k km, it wasn't so noticeable. Vibrations - practically throughout the range, more or less, not like those from a 1 or 2 cylinder bike, but they could be a little less. Tires (Dunlop Roadsport2) - after two days, it's hard to say for sure, because I'm still breaking them in, but I suspect that we won't get along well after losing traction on a decent straight. I ride, I observe. That's probably all for today, I'll ride more and say more.
Good review, usually when the channel host hands over to other people it can be a disappointment but you smashed this one. Kept me watching and delivered a brilliant first ride review. Chops...watch out 😉
Ive got a Gsxs as a loan bike while mines in the workshop. Im 6'3" and 19 stone 7, although its a compact bike the ergonomics are spot on for me. The power delivery, quickshifter blipper, suspension, handling everything just work for me. You've got look past the looks of the front end and ride one, its a weapon on the road.
Really looking forward to the comparison! Interestingly there were rumored a new white background color for the LCD screen for the 2023 edition. Hope you'll get your hands on a 2023 version to confirm/debunk this. Its interesting how I've heard different things about both the breaks and the quickshifter... Some have commented on the breaks being mushy/lacking bite, and some about quickshifter acting up. I must say on my 2022 I have not had a single issue with either, except the quickshifter not working as intended if throttle is not opened up sufficiently. I also must say, I don't really like the "naked vs hypernaked" or "supernaked vs hypernaked" distinctions.. I mean I get it, a streetfighter V4 is obviously a lot more bike than the GSX-S1000, with stronger track capabilities. Same with the new BMW S1000 RR naked. However lets not fool ourselves - all of these bikes are being ridden mostly on the streets. Only a select few are pushing the "only" nakeds like GSX-S1000, CB1000 or Z1000s even near its limitations. Even a mt-09 is way too much bike for the road both in terms of power and in terms of handling capabilities. To me, all of these 1000cc, 130bhp+ bikes fall into the same category of supernakeds or hypernakeds. It doesn't matter if they have a bosch IMU or not, or if its 130, 180 or 220bhp. Its all just way beyond what any of us are using them for. Sure we're all horsepower junkies, but lets not act as if it actually matters guys.
Suzukis GSX-S 1000 is a fantastic looking masterpiece for the road. Based comment😆 Cause I have over 8000 km on mine. Serious fun bike. I even like the front brake😊
This is such a underrated bike. I had a 2016 version of this till some one not paying attention took me out. and picked it up for 7800$ new cause no one was buying them. I have ridden all the other naked and various full fairing GXSR,CBR, Triumph ect . This bike is hands down the best.
I live here in the states and have a first gen mt-10. I could make this bike fun but it would definitely require a decat/exhaust and a ecu "flash". Bring out the beauty of that old K5 engine!
I have one from last 2 months same color can tell it I love it ! what’s bike not 2 complicated simples convenient all day around most the time I’m in c if I need power I know is there 2 use it
Presumably, the suspension can be adjusted to soften it a bit. Regarding the brakes, my GSXS1000F has stock Brembos and I’ve found them very disappointing for such a big name brand.
This was a great review. Always good to have different rider's observations. Why do you not have your own channel? Good vloggers are not 10 a penny & you're clearly very good at it! 👍
Honestly the SBS sp pads sort the braking deficit out..they are a revelation. Strange though because the oe pads are brembo sintered pads. Great review 👏
The quickshifter is not great on this bike sometimes, when the bike is cold it works very smoothly, but after 20 minutes it feels weird sometimes. At higher RPM's when you use the quickshifter the bike may suddenly stop accelerating, pushing your whole body forward and all of a sudden starts accelerating again. The bike also has a snatchy throttle when shifting or rolling off the throttle and then back on it again slowly. The B and C mode fixes that a good amount, but those problems are not rare, they are on every GSX-S 1000.
I also own the bike in black and I love it . I have a full exhaust , ecu flash and air filier/ velocity stacks / Ecu flash . The torque is Amazing it pulls all the way up to 150mph . I replaced the tires with Diablo SUPERCORSA. This bike handles just as good as my Gsxr1000R. The brakes could be better and I wish it had more top speed. It’s handles great and it’s very nimble. I replaced the battery with a lithium one and saved 9lbs and maybe another 15 lbs with the full Yoshimura .
Chopsie delegating to Gregorio! Nice one Greg, of the "Fast Nakeds" (you can use that category name)this is my favourite. We all love an underdog. Looking forward to the follow up vid.
I've ridden all three of these bike's ( MT10 sp, Gsxs1000, and the CBR1000) and as a personal choice the suzuki did it for me. I loved the looks of the Honda and the engine of the Yamaha but the suzuki seemed to have the best of both worlds.......comfort, performance , that iconic K5 engine and the smoothest quick shifter/gearbox of any machine I've ridden including all your high end exotica machines like the superduke, Ducati, Aprillia etc. I've never had a problem with the brakes though.....always had plenty of feel and stopping power from those Brembo's. Perhaps its just that particular test bike? Great review and can't wait to see what you think of the other machines....i bet you'll be in Chopsy's garage with beer's from the fridge giving us a breakdown on your thoughts of each bike. 😊
The brakes on my 2017 SV felt just as vague until I swapped them out for sintered EBC pads all around. Now the rear brake grabs just as well as the OEM fronts used to. It’s unusual for a “new” Suzuki to grab my attention, but I can see myself replacing the SV with this (if the MT09 remains elusive to me, insurance costs considered)
I bought a new one in June 2022 and it's grown on me (I wanted a Hayabusa but not prepared to pay that much (£17k compared to my new 2018 one which cost £10,500). It gets used for commuting so it's quite light for filtering between traffic, quite light for manoeuvring and it can be a bit loony. I find the brakes are just fine. Quickshifter was interesting as never used one before and it was almost think about changing and it changed :D I'm probably going to keep mine beyond the PCP (unless I get a great PX offer).
I've got the 2018 model, I never thought of it as a "twitchy" throttle but more as responsive lol. In any case an ecu flash corrected much of the issue.
I rode the katana yesterday. Similar motorcycle, I suppose. Brakes were a deal breaker for me. I had great hopes for the bike, but coming from a triumph, the katana felt surprisingly cheap, for some reason. Great engine though.
All these bikes I'm looking to buy one but hard decision . Superduke , tuono v4 , gsx 1000 , mt10 , like the channel love the chops turns up and lowers the tone in a funny way good chemistry . I do take your reviews seriously when purchasing
Lovely little test! And damn, your English roads seem almost as bad as the Belgian roads here. I look forward to the comparison test. I may own the MT-10SP, but I do kinda like the looks of that Honda
I'm a little disappointed with the review results. This is the first review that doesn’t "love" the GSX s1000, aside from the looks (objective), wooden brake feel (fixed with new pads, and tires (only when riding super aggressively). The important aspects such as power delivery, fuel mapping, quick shifting, handing, and comfort are reported as extraordinary. That deserves more than a 7.5 in my humble opinion. After reading and watching all the reviews, It's my next bike, happening soon. I hope I won't be disappointed.
Sorry to disappoint. It was only a first ride impression but fear not, it’s a great bike and you won’t be disappointed. Best of luck with your new purchase 👍
So I’m not surprised at your first impression. I don’t personally like the looks of this bike. That combined with weak brakes, it’s a no from me. Still we will see how it fairs in the comparison test. Great job Greg .
I've not heard a theme about the brakes being weak or not very good about the bike so it could likely just be that particular loaner bike. While it's not how I would design a bike I find it looks resonable (better than the previous version) and in person I find it looks even better. Well priced, smooth I4 sporty roadster with a 19L tank, reasonable economy, slick gearbox with quick shifter etc. It's going to be a good option for some that use it on a regular basis. If you're just buying a show bike to have a blast on from time to time then there are more preferable bikes that's for sure. I would happily own one of these and just wind it open everywhere in 1st gear commuting daily.
Enjoyed the review Chopsy.....Er I mean Greg? Got to ask was it your footage in the dry going around the farm track? If it was great 👍 but if not boo 👎 The stacked headlights on this model are horrible IMO and suzuki should've kept the single headlight from the first gen can't wait to see the comparison vid it looks fun I just wish Kawasaki fitted the SX's IMU electronic package with quickshifter/blipper to it's Z1000
Needs braided lines and different pads, as my own Suzuki did. Also, I'd drop a couple of teeth at the back sprocket, because the engine is too busy as it comes.
Nice mini review by Greg. Being the owner of an early CB1000R I found this of interest. No idea of mileage on this bike but I wonder if brakes may improve more miles. So good to see reference to fuelling when ridden at low speeds....this is something often overlooked in bike reviews. A brief mention of tyre specs from the factory would be useful. No IMU ? I believe this bike has the budget version SIRS electronics suite.... Personally I would like to see more manufacturers offering optional full IMU packages on bikes (like Aprillia do on the Tuono 660).... My view is that an IMU (& associated trickery), is a "safety riding aid" not just a "performance riding aid" (or garnish for bikes with higher ticket prices)....The shocking condition of UK roads (as highlighted in vid), makes cornering abs, lean sensitive traction control, anti wheelie control all quite handy. If not of rider use then why have same on the V-Strom ? Thanks
I have also the first gen cb1000R and I ve ridden the gsxs 1000. So if i may help you at all I'll write my opinion. The chassis is tighter and gives more info than the CB, also the suspensions are 2-3 clicks better than the CB's. Really liked that while being as friendly as the CB. Acceleration under 7K is just a little quicker but with an airbox and exhaust howling at you really driving you insane. After 9K its much faster. Brakes are not up to the task, they are not as good as my C-ABS system so sintered breaking pads or even a Brembo MC is a must. The clutch is not as buttery, the quickshifter works nicely. LOVED the engine and the howl, a ballsy 1000cc. Didnt have the opportunity to really push it though, maybe then the differences would be greater. Not a mile ahead from the CB, it's Clearly better though, like 30% better. In contrast the Speed Triple 1200Rs made me think (aside from its downsides that made me not wanna buy it) that in the handling and engine department is from another century. Still thinking of GSX sometimes thats why i came to check the video...
@@papamichailang @Angelos p Thanks for that...I genuinely appreciate you taking time to those well thought words. Odd you mention Triumph. The 765RS interests me. Relative comparisons to what we ride can paint a useful picture. I am on Michelin Road 6 & have a professional suspension set up booked for soon. My SC60 is also a CB1000 RA btw. .... Not had my CB1000RA long & no itch to change for now. Keen to see what 4th Gen will be like though (IMU & sharp looks please) Thanks again 👍🏍
The tuners who have had these bikes on the dyno seem to think that the MT10 and the GSX-S1000 are very close in real world power to the back wheel but the CB1000 is lacking in comparison. Both Suzuki and Yamaha seem to pick up the same amount of HP from an exhaust and tune too. Spoilt for choice. For most people just buy the one you like the look of as they're all great and in isolation you won't be disappointed with any!
While I don't actually know I feel like maybe the Yamaha is just geared much shorter than the suzuki in the first few gears which makes it feel more powerful than it actually is.
@@prndownload could be. Maybe I'll have a look later and see if I can find out. Anecdotal reports say the cross plane crank helps the mid range to be punchier, especially where the GSX-S1000 is underfuelled to meet EU5 emissions. Some of the guys who get a proper remap on the Suzuki are not only gaining an extra 10whp at the peam but in the mid range the gain is even bigger than the top end gains. Seems like with half the new bikes these days you have to factor in a remap to get the most of the hardware.
@@UpsideDownFork Yeah I agree it does appear the need to interfere with a stock bike is becoming necessary and worthwhile now as these restrictions increase. I think manufacturers should make it easier to achieve that goal. It should just be a matter of buying a cable and downloading some free software then being able to negate ECU restrictions and restoring full performance.
There's a lot of tests of the 'full fat' version, very few on the 'lite', the GSX-S 1000 badged as a "950" ...any chance of getting the two together for comparison, the 2nd hand price difference is huge?
Hard to get excited about it though isn’t it. The Honda has build quality and styling, the Yamaha has that engine and the Suzuki I guess better be cheap because why else would you choose it?
No reviews of this bike mention how bad the gearing is. The first gen had a bunch of problems, worst being the big dip in midrange torque and the gearing. The midrange is fixed now but the gearing is still bad. Race bike gearing on a street bike. 1st gear too high, 6th gear too low. It's the only thing that stopped me buying.
At 0:10 he announces a three-way he’s gonna have with Chopsy..!! Then at 2:36 he admits to having a “tug on his lever” - Seems a very Raunchy Review! 😅
Japan doesn't understand automotive art any more. Yet another reason why leaving the European Union was total ignorance. Bastards. Lot's of love.......Sue.
My issue with this is, now Suzuki have got rid of the gsxr this is now there flag ship bike. And tbh it’s a pretty poor attempt. Why anyone buy this over a USED sdr or tuono is beyond me.
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Greg's absolutely nailing this vlogging business now 👍👍
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Just bought this for my 3rd bike, so well balanced and very well sorted. The fueling is so smooth and mid range torque increase is very noticable compare to the previous gen. Does everything as you expected, so underrated, such a pity Suzuki didn't put the tft and cruise control, otherwise it'd be phenomenal, but the price tag will be different as well. Great bike overall, one of my best purchase across all 10 bikes I've had.
Hi, what other bikes do you have and prefer over this one?
@@QuickRipzz I had several small bikes like Grom, Ninja 300, RC390 and MT03. Several middle weights like zx-6r, gsx-r750, rs660 and tuono 660, a few litre bikes like gsx-r1000, s1000rr, katana and GSX-S1000. S1000rr and gsx-s1000 would be my best buys
@@juniormin3454 wow.
@@juniormin3454 wow, that's incredible. How would you rate the zx6r of all those listed bikes??
You said its you're 3rd bike and you had 10?
Big upgrade on presenter. Better looking, slimmer, seductive voice, less incontinent. I bet Mavis is impressed.
😂😂😂😂 see a lifetime ban coming for you 😋
Agree, I have one as my 2nd bike , massive underrated!!
I'm just getting into my own, I've only had it for two days, but I bought it after a day of test riding the demo. It's a killer bike in every way! Although it wasn't that important to me, it's really good looking and to appreciate it, you have to see the bike live, photos don't do it justice. I personally found the matte grey color to be the most attractive, but of course, that's a matter of taste. I was convinced to order it because of its lightness (in feeling, because objectively it's not the lightest in its class), the engine, which, in addition to its beautiful history, is still unmatched by the competition in terms of performance, power delivery, reliability, predictability, and sound. Such engines will no longer be produced. Amazing power, eagerness to ride, straight, in turns, whatever the rider imagines, it will happen! The riding position is a successful compromise, providing enjoyment and technical capabilities for those who want to ride dynamically and those who want to comfortably explore nearby towns (although there is no exaggeration with tourism either, due to the lack of a windshield and the high, retracted legs). For me, another huge plus is that the bike doesn't heat up the handlebars, which is a problem on many motorcycles. I, for example, considered buying a Ducati Street V2 and the way they gave off heat to the rider was unacceptable. The suspension in the factory setting is rather for dynamic/sport riding (not hardcore), but if it's not your thing - you have plenty of adjustment options to find your own setting. The brakes, in addition to being very efficient, are also very controllable - full control in any conditions. I don't expect anything more. The gem in the standard equipment setup is the top-notch quickshifter, which works phenomenally in practically every rpm range, of course, up and down, and we get it without any extra charge. The cherry on top is the exhaust - it sounds and looks fantastic, it can make pleasant pops, sound bassy, and it doesn't tire you out, despite the ridiculous EURO(5) regulations. And it looks good! It doesn't require replacement at all. As for the downsides - the display is not very clear, but it helps a little to increase the brightness settings to max, the standard setting is low. I would also pay more attention to the rather hard seat in the long run - consider something accessory. I also don't like the "short" clutch, especially in the new one, in the demo with a mileage of about 5k km, it wasn't so noticeable. Vibrations - practically throughout the range, more or less, not like those from a 1 or 2 cylinder bike, but they could be a little less. Tires (Dunlop Roadsport2) - after two days, it's hard to say for sure, because I'm still breaking them in, but I suspect that we won't get along well after losing traction on a decent straight. I ride, I observe. That's probably all for today, I'll ride more and say more.
I think you've said all there is to say.
Bruh, these videos! I love waking up and seeing lamb chop uploaded!
Good review, usually when the channel host hands over to other people it can be a disappointment but you smashed this one. Kept me watching and delivered a brilliant first ride review. Chops...watch out 😉
Thanks buddy, yeah going to be showing me up soon!!
Ive got a Gsxs as a loan bike while mines in the workshop. Im 6'3" and 19 stone 7, although its a compact bike the ergonomics are spot on for me. The power delivery, quickshifter blipper, suspension, handling everything just work for me. You've got look past the looks of the front end and ride one, its a weapon on the road.
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with its looks. Seems like a marvellous and practical machine and comes in at a phenomenal price.
Really looking forward to the comparison! Interestingly there were rumored a new white background color for the LCD screen for the 2023 edition. Hope you'll get your hands on a 2023 version to confirm/debunk this.
Its interesting how I've heard different things about both the breaks and the quickshifter... Some have commented on the breaks being mushy/lacking bite, and some about quickshifter acting up. I must say on my 2022 I have not had a single issue with either, except the quickshifter not working as intended if throttle is not opened up sufficiently.
I also must say, I don't really like the "naked vs hypernaked" or "supernaked vs hypernaked" distinctions.. I mean I get it, a streetfighter V4 is obviously a lot more bike than the GSX-S1000, with stronger track capabilities. Same with the new BMW S1000 RR naked. However lets not fool ourselves - all of these bikes are being ridden mostly on the streets. Only a select few are pushing the "only" nakeds like GSX-S1000, CB1000 or Z1000s even near its limitations. Even a mt-09 is way too much bike for the road both in terms of power and in terms of handling capabilities.
To me, all of these 1000cc, 130bhp+ bikes fall into the same category of supernakeds or hypernakeds. It doesn't matter if they have a bosch IMU or not, or if its 130, 180 or 220bhp. Its all just way beyond what any of us are using them for. Sure we're all horsepower junkies, but lets not act as if it actually matters guys.
Well done Greg. Love to see you back. You and Chopsy nailing it as always
Good morning G man!
Chopsy having a lay in with Mavis😂😂😂
Look forward to the test against the MT et al 👍👊😎
Suzukis GSX-S 1000 is a fantastic looking masterpiece for the road. Based comment😆
Cause I have over 8000 km on mine. Serious fun bike. I even like the front brake😊
I’m definitely coming around to the looks of these , and it’s a lot of bike for not much money .
Every time I see an interesting bike video in England lately it is somewhat ruined by a wet road. Pack up and move to Aus guys.
This is such a underrated bike. I had a 2016 version of this till some one not paying attention took me out. and picked it up for 7800$ new cause no one was buying them. I have ridden all the other naked and various full fairing GXSR,CBR, Triumph ect . This bike is hands down the best.
I live here in the states and have a first gen mt-10. I could make this bike fun but it would definitely require a decat/exhaust and a ecu "flash". Bring out the beauty of that old K5 engine!
I have one from last 2 months same color can tell it I love it ! what’s bike not 2 complicated simples convenient all day around most the time I’m in c if I need power I know is there 2 use it
Good 1 Greg nock that out of the park, ATB Wayne......
I have the GT version and after a SBS pad change breaks are 👌🏻
Presumably, the suspension can be adjusted to soften it a bit.
Regarding the brakes, my GSXS1000F has stock Brembos and I’ve found them very disappointing for such a big name brand.
Can't beat a chops upload on a Saturday morning! 👍🏼
Enjoyed that, Greg. Well presented and articulated. Look forward to next time ✊🏻💨💨💨💨
This was a great review. Always good to have different rider's observations. Why do you not have your own channel? Good vloggers are not 10 a penny & you're clearly very good at it!
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Great job Greg was the track bit in chop's rear garden in the new Gaff ,,👍👍👍👍😉😉😉☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
Well recognised 😆👍
Well done Greg, absolute natural
How did you find the display, road tested one and found I couldn’t really read it on a sunny day which really put me off
Looking forward for the 3 bike comparison. Would also appreciate a mention of how they fare against the more expensive S1000R.
The winner will face the best of the European bikes 👍
Honestly the SBS sp pads sort the braking deficit out..they are a revelation. Strange though because the oe pads are brembo sintered pads. Great review 👏
Yes they totally change the braking
The quickshifter is not great on this bike sometimes, when the bike is cold it works very smoothly, but after 20 minutes it feels weird sometimes. At higher RPM's when you use the quickshifter the bike may suddenly stop accelerating, pushing your whole body forward and all of a sudden starts accelerating again. The bike also has a snatchy throttle when shifting or rolling off the throttle and then back on it again slowly. The B and C mode fixes that a good amount, but those problems are not rare, they are on every GSX-S 1000.
I also own the bike in black and I love it .
I have a full exhaust , ecu flash and air filier/ velocity stacks / Ecu flash . The torque is Amazing it pulls all the way up to 150mph .
I replaced the tires with Diablo SUPERCORSA.
This bike handles just as good as my Gsxr1000R. The brakes could be better and I wish it had more top speed. It’s handles great and it’s very nimble. I replaced the battery with a lithium one and saved 9lbs and maybe another 15 lbs with the full Yoshimura .
Chopsie delegating to Gregorio! Nice one Greg, of the "Fast Nakeds" (you can use that category name)this is my favourite. We all love an underdog. Looking forward to the follow up vid.
That good morning threw me.
I've ridden all three of these bike's ( MT10 sp, Gsxs1000, and the CBR1000) and as a personal choice the suzuki did it for me. I loved the looks of the Honda and the engine of the Yamaha but the suzuki seemed to have the best of both worlds.......comfort, performance , that iconic K5 engine and the smoothest quick shifter/gearbox of any machine I've ridden including all your high end exotica machines like the superduke, Ducati, Aprillia etc.
I've never had a problem with the brakes though.....always had plenty of feel and stopping power from those Brembo's. Perhaps its just that particular test bike?
Great review and can't wait to see what you think of the other machines....i bet you'll be in Chopsy's garage with beer's from the fridge giving us a breakdown on your thoughts of each bike. 😊
The brakes on my 2017 SV felt just as vague until I swapped them out for sintered EBC pads all around. Now the rear brake grabs just as well as the OEM fronts used to. It’s unusual for a “new” Suzuki to grab my attention, but I can see myself replacing the SV with this (if the MT09 remains elusive to me, insurance costs considered)
I bought a new one in June 2022 and it's grown on me (I wanted a Hayabusa but not prepared to pay that much (£17k compared to my new 2018 one which cost £10,500). It gets used for commuting so it's quite light for filtering between traffic, quite light for manoeuvring and it can be a bit loony. I find the brakes are just fine. Quickshifter was interesting as never used one before and it was almost think about changing and it changed :D I'm probably going to keep mine beyond the PCP (unless I get a great PX offer).
I've got the 2018 model, I never thought of it as a "twitchy" throttle but more as responsive lol. In any case an ecu flash corrected much of the issue.
Well done! Thumbs up!
Quality review Gregory 👍👍
Nice little review by Greg hope brakes are a 1 off with a thou you need decent brakes
I rode the katana yesterday. Similar motorcycle, I suppose. Brakes were a deal breaker for me. I had great hopes for the bike, but coming from a triumph, the katana felt surprisingly cheap, for some reason. Great engine though.
Good job Greg
All these bikes I'm looking to buy one but hard decision . Superduke , tuono v4 , gsx 1000 , mt10 , like the channel love the chops turns up and lowers the tone in a funny way good chemistry . I do take your reviews seriously when purchasing
As long as youre not that tall the tuono v4 is my pick. Gsxs1000 is a lazy attempt by suzuki. A generation behind the others
After you ride the Tuono all the others will feel boring in comparison
You pretty much can't make a wrong decision
You have adjustable suspension, did you back off the damping to see if you could make the ride less harsh?
Always seemed like the "bargain" of the modern supernaked range esp as Suzuki dealers are always good for a discount if you buy at the right time
Top work Greg! Chops watch out!!😅😂
Id take this over an MT10 because the ergonomics are more for fast riding. The 10 rides taller giving it a mild touring capacity.
Same. Looks better and is quite a bit cheaper
starting to gel you blokes keep it up
Nice one Greg , looking forward to the comparison with chopsy and the Honda and Yamaha . 👍😁
Lovely little test! And damn, your English roads seem almost as bad as the Belgian roads here.
I look forward to the comparison test. I may own the MT-10SP, but I do kinda like the looks of that Honda
Yay, Gregorino
Top work Greg. 👍
Good review, Greg.
Good first look video Greg
Really nice review. Question; if this is not a super naked what is a super naked then? Expensive 1000cc bikes?
0:36 was you braking? Just wondering about the sag. Obs u was braking or rider a bit heavy maybe 😀👍
I’d like to see the track times between this and a MT-07
Which one is more fuel economic CB1000r , GSXS1000, ZH2 ?
I'm a little disappointed with the review results. This is the first review that doesn’t "love" the GSX s1000, aside from the looks (objective), wooden brake feel (fixed with new pads, and tires (only when riding super aggressively). The important aspects such as power delivery, fuel mapping, quick shifting, handing, and comfort are reported as extraordinary. That deserves more than a 7.5 in my humble opinion. After reading and watching all the reviews, It's my next bike, happening soon. I hope I won't be disappointed.
Sorry to disappoint. It was only a first ride impression but fear not, it’s a great bike and you won’t be disappointed. Best of luck with your new purchase 👍
@@gregtufnall6276 Thanks so much Greg. I'm really looking forward to it. 😁
Well, you're selling it to me Greg. Good job 👍
I owned the gen.1 GSX-S1000 and i traded that for a Yamaha MT-10. Best thing i ever did.
Somebody really needs to do a comparison between the Yamaha MT-10 and the BMW S1000R. The only vid I can find is from 6 years ago.
I saw a guy who put 1970s lime green wallpaper over the shyte Suzuki mottled carbon bits as he said the originals were ugly. He has a point.
As said to chops the mt10 will be diff league to others and should of put zh2 in...
I dont see the MT10 a comparison in this test myself.
I think the MT is in with the S1KR etc.
So I’m not surprised at your first impression. I don’t personally like the looks of this bike. That combined with weak brakes, it’s a no from me. Still we will see how it fairs in the comparison test. Great job Greg .
I've not heard a theme about the brakes being weak or not very good about the bike so it could likely just be that particular loaner bike. While it's not how I would design a bike I find it looks resonable (better than the previous version) and in person I find it looks even better. Well priced, smooth I4 sporty roadster with a 19L tank, reasonable economy, slick gearbox with quick shifter etc. It's going to be a good option for some that use it on a regular basis. If you're just buying a show bike to have a blast on from time to time then there are more preferable bikes that's for sure.
I would happily own one of these and just wind it open everywhere in 1st gear commuting daily.
The brakes are good especially when you change the pads as for the looks I love it
Great review 👍
Righto! Where did you hide that “Big Old Unit”?
Thanks.
it waa a wandaaful machine
Enjoyed the review Chopsy.....Er I mean Greg? Got to ask was it your footage in the dry going around the farm track? If it was great 👍 but if not boo 👎 The stacked headlights on this model are horrible IMO and suzuki should've kept the single headlight from the first gen can't wait to see the comparison vid it looks fun I just wish Kawasaki fitted the SX's IMU electronic package with quickshifter/blipper to it's Z1000
The font is too small where you write the specs on the screen at the beginning. Cannot read from my phone.
Needs braided lines and different pads, as my own Suzuki did. Also, I'd drop a couple of teeth at the back sprocket, because the engine is too busy as it comes.
Looks Like it Going to be a
"Top Gear" Group Bike Test
Is Chopsey going to be
Jeremy 😄
Que moto linda, a Suzuki acertou 🎉
Nice mini review by Greg.
Being the owner of an early CB1000R I found this of interest.
No idea of mileage on this bike but I wonder if brakes may improve more miles.
So good to see reference to fuelling when ridden at
low speeds....this is something often overlooked in bike reviews.
A brief mention of tyre specs from the factory would be useful.
No IMU ? I believe this bike has the budget version SIRS electronics suite.... Personally I would like to see more manufacturers offering optional full IMU packages on bikes (like Aprillia do on the Tuono 660).... My view is that an IMU (& associated trickery), is a "safety riding aid" not just a "performance riding aid" (or garnish for bikes with higher ticket prices)....The shocking condition of UK roads (as highlighted in vid), makes cornering abs, lean sensitive traction control, anti wheelie control all quite handy.
If not of rider use then why have same on the V-Strom ?
Thanks
I have also the first gen cb1000R and I ve ridden the gsxs 1000. So if i may help you at all I'll write my opinion.
The chassis is tighter and gives more info than the CB, also the suspensions are 2-3 clicks better than the CB's. Really liked that while being as friendly as the CB.
Acceleration under 7K is just a little quicker but with an airbox and exhaust howling at you really driving you insane.
After 9K its much faster. Brakes are not up to the task, they are not as good as my C-ABS system so sintered breaking pads or even a Brembo MC is a must. The clutch is not as buttery, the quickshifter works nicely.
LOVED the engine and the howl, a ballsy 1000cc. Didnt have the opportunity to really push it though, maybe then the differences would be greater.
Not a mile ahead from the CB, it's Clearly better though, like 30% better. In contrast the Speed Triple 1200Rs made me think (aside from its downsides that made me not wanna buy it) that in the handling and engine department is from another century.
Still thinking of GSX sometimes thats why i came to check the video...
@@papamichailang @Angelos p Thanks for that...I genuinely appreciate you taking time to those well thought words. Odd you mention Triumph. The 765RS interests me.
Relative comparisons to what we ride can paint a useful picture. I am on Michelin Road 6 & have a professional suspension set up booked for soon. My SC60 is also a CB1000 RA btw. ....
Not had my CB1000RA long & no itch to change for now. Keen to see what 4th Gen will be like though (IMU & sharp looks please)
Thanks again 👍🏍
@@AW8UK The 765RS 2023 I am hearing it's in a riding league of its own. I will too test ride it.
@@papamichailang 👍
Nice one 👌
The tuners who have had these bikes on the dyno seem to think that the MT10 and the GSX-S1000 are very close in real world power to the back wheel but the CB1000 is lacking in comparison.
Both Suzuki and Yamaha seem to pick up the same amount of HP from an exhaust and tune too.
Spoilt for choice. For most people just buy the one you like the look of as they're all great and in isolation you won't be disappointed with any!
While I don't actually know I feel like maybe the Yamaha is just geared much shorter than the suzuki in the first few gears which makes it feel more powerful than it actually is.
@@prndownload could be. Maybe I'll have a look later and see if I can find out. Anecdotal reports say the cross plane crank helps the mid range to be punchier, especially where the GSX-S1000 is underfuelled to meet EU5 emissions.
Some of the guys who get a proper remap on the Suzuki are not only gaining an extra 10whp at the peam but in the mid range the gain is even bigger than the top end gains.
Seems like with half the new bikes these days you have to factor in a remap to get the most of the hardware.
@@UpsideDownFork Yeah I agree it does appear the need to interfere with a stock bike is becoming necessary and worthwhile now as these restrictions increase. I think manufacturers should make it easier to achieve that goal. It should just be a matter of buying a cable and downloading some free software then being able to negate ECU restrictions and restoring full performance.
There's a lot of tests of the 'full fat' version, very few on the 'lite', the GSX-S 1000 badged as a "950" ...any chance of getting the two together for comparison, the 2nd hand price difference is huge?
Isn't the 950 an iteration of the 750 in Europe and the UK? Curious. In the US we still have the s750 - steel frame and all - a great machine.
@@anxiousappliance 1000cc K5 motor with the power tuned down through the electric...and near half the price once 12mths old(2nd hand).
AFAIK they are identical except the 950 is restricted in power.
@@k1mura92 forks,shock,indicators, no Q/S,thin bars,etc...150bhp after a remap
So no new triumph 765 review/comparisons?
I've not got it until next month unfortunately, but it's coming hopefully along with a Duke 890 R comparison
@@LambChopRides will be looking forward to that!
Hard to get excited about it though isn’t it. The Honda has build quality and styling, the Yamaha has that engine and the Suzuki I guess better be cheap because why else would you choose it?
Suzuki makes great road bikes. This thing is a surprisingly compact and , if anything like may s750, a sweet powerful road machine.
How about z900??
Ho tall are you ?
C'mon, who doesn't like a firm tug on the old lever ;-) HH EBC will sort the brakes.
£11,500, 150 bhp mustn't grumble for a new bike. I am still keeping my gen II Superduke R though
making a testride, HEEEELL YEA, with a 1k GSX, OH YEA! ... on city roads with 40mph, YE-wait-uooohhhhhhh 😢
Have you lost weight Chops?… its effected your voice!?
Great video anyway … do more like this 👍😇
2021 reg but 2023 bike? 🧐
Ωραία μηχανή 👍👍❤❤❤❤❤
No reviews of this bike mention how bad the gearing is.
The first gen had a bunch of problems, worst being the big dip in midrange torque and the gearing. The midrange is fixed now but the gearing is still bad. Race bike gearing on a street bike. 1st gear too high, 6th gear too low. It's the only thing that stopped me buying.
At 0:10 he announces a three-way he’s gonna have with Chopsy..!! Then at 2:36 he admits to having a “tug on his lever” - Seems a very Raunchy Review! 😅
This engine still needs breaking in so don’t judge it yet
Biased but I love it
Oh look everyone here's another "first big bike"
Japan doesn't understand automotive art any more. Yet another reason why leaving the European Union was total ignorance. Bastards. Lot's of love.......Sue.
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Suzuki needs to reinvent themselves in terms of design. It kills there potential
No chopsie! no watching!!!
My issue with this is, now Suzuki have got rid of the gsxr this is now there flag ship bike. And tbh it’s a pretty poor attempt. Why anyone buy this over a USED sdr or tuono is beyond me.
Fast, sweet I4, and every day you go to ride, it starts.
@@anxiousappliance s1kr
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Not sure i want to see you and choppsy in a three way ..............
Haha 😆
My brakes are fine ffs !!